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Makanyane
04-02-2008, 05:31
Yep, epic battle - wonderful write up :thumbsup:
except for the bit about me ending up as toast http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/evil9kf.gif
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Crazed Rabbit
04-02-2008, 05:37
Because he's Herakles!
So who's the last mafia - w&fs?
CR
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2008, 07:03
Because he's Herakles!
So who's the last mafia - w&fs?
CR
hmm
Well damn if I know, but it seems the burly guy got some more powers after having killed 4 (Warluster, Twilightblade, Ichigo and Northnovas).
So... TinCow I guess you should know who Banana B and Elite F protected last night.
Any investigations getting guilty results yet?
vote: woad&fangs until we can agree on a better candidate.
Sarathos
04-02-2008, 09:44
Man, that guy is good. Awesome write-up Kami.
So why was the fiery guy its target?
But after all that death, I will Vote:Abstain.
Ug. I think one of the doctors forgot to submit orders. This was not a good night. I will comment in detail in a little while.
how did banabob die if I was protecting him?
FactionHeir
04-02-2008, 12:32
I think this might be kamikhaans revenge to even things in the game out after pever's WoG reveals.
seireikhaan
04-02-2008, 12:44
I think this might be kamikhaans revenge to even things in the game out after pever's WoG reveals.
Nope.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-02-2008, 12:52
Sorry, fellow hellions :shame:
I believe I've "screwed the pooch" as the test pilots used to say.
Good luck waxing the angelic ones....I really fear you'll need it.
Ok.. this is how I think it played out.
The burly mafioso have had 4 succesful kills. We know from TinCow's and pever's roles that their abilities were extended when they had made a certain amount of kills.
TinCow's resurrection ability were released upon 4 succesful kills.
pever's ability to kill many (3?) would be relased when he had made 3 successful kills (or 4 if he lied about the number).
I propose that the burly killer got a similar killing power upon his 4th kill - he was able to attack 3 and killed 2.
We know he attacked TinCow - Were TinCow protected by Banana Bob?
So TinCow attacked Makanyane, Banana Bob protected TinCow and Elite Ferret protected Banana Bob.
The burly killer with his new power attacked TinCow, Elite Ferret and Banana Bob.
TinCow's kill was not blocked and Makanyane died.
Elite Ferret's protection was futile as he was attacked at the same time as his protection target.
Banana Bob was somehow able to protect TinCow... hmm this contradicts the statement above.
Pray tell us how this night should have worked TinCow...
Ok, re-reading the write-up, things are still bad, but not as bad as I had originally expected.
First, Seamus' death was expected. He was the other Detective. Unfortunately, both his name and FH's were listed in the old town thread that pever had access to. Since pever was clearly feeding info to the mafia, as shown by NN and FH's deaths the night before, it was only a matter of time before Seamus was hit. Seamus' identity was the only reason we were still keeping that thread secret, since there was still a tiny chance that the mafia did not have access to it and we didn't want to doom Seamus if there was any possibility of him living. With him dead, I don't see any point in keeping that thread secret anymore. I'm almost positive the mafia have access to the whole thing, so it doesn't help us to hide that information. So, here's the old town thread which was used up until pever's betrayal:
http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/uMXUw342Hc7PQ
Also, here are the detective results I have from FH and Seamus:
Seamus:
Kommodus Innocent(N1), Yaropolk Innocent(N2), Rythmic Innocent(N3), Late PM (N4).
FH:
CA Innocent(N1), Prole Innocent(N2), GH Innocent(N3), TinCow Guilty (N4).
The deaths of BB and EF are the major blow to us, as they were both our doctors. In re-reading the write-up, though, it is clear that all orders were properly submitted. Obviously, Herakles has a special ability that allows him to kill doctors. This makes sense, since the doctors were Cerebrus and the Hydra, two creatures that Herakles defeated in Greek mythology. I guess Herakles got lucky, in that he attacked the doctor that was protected by the other doctor. Thus both doctors were in the same place and in battle against Herakles, and thus he was able to use his anti-doctor ability to kill them both at once. This hurts us significantly, but Makanyane's death helps us a bit.
So, there were 4 hits/deaths last night, conducted by three people. BB & EF were by Herakles. Mak killed Seamus, and then was killed by me. The other person that attacked me failed because BB was protecting me. That means that there were 3 mafia operating last night. With Mak's death, we are now down to 2... assuming that all mafia were active last night. If some didn't act, we could have more than 2 still alive. However, our bad luck in losing both doctors means that I will die tonight. There is no way to stop this and no sane mafia would leave me alive. I think it's in our best interests for me to kill one of the suspects tonight before I get killed myself. We can discuss that later, though. For now, let's concentrate on nailing one of them with a lynch.
Unfortunately, we have very little hard evidence to go on at this point. However, I think we do have it narrowed down pretty well. The final list of suspect in that town thread still seems accurate to me:
Hannibalbarc
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I
Sarathos
woad&fangs
Mouzafphaerre
I'm not sure what to think at the moment and I will hold off on voting until we get some analysis and discussion going. However, right now my top two suspects are Mouzafphaerre and CR. Mouza's last few posts have been comic gold. If he's not mafia, he's certainly doing a good job of posting like one. My suspicions about CR are two-fold. First, he's too quiet for a townie. I would expect more analysis out of him if he were pro-town, since he did a good job of it in Capo II. Second, his above vote was way, way too fast. He instantly jumped on a name that we had listed as a possible suspect earlier on, even though Sarathos was also discussed as a suspect and had more evidence against him. For this reason, I think we need to give a long, hard look at CR.
Big FoS: Crazed Rabbit
Big FoS: Mouzafphaerre
FoS: Hannibalbarc
FoS: Fahad I
FoS: Sarathos
FoS: woad&fangs
So, three mafia killers active? That means there are two left now. Still this game is winnable though.
on the FoS list..
I don't think Mouza is mafia.
Fahad, CR, and Hannibalbarc have posted(or not posted) in a style that makes me suspect them.. but, no big clues.. :embarassed:
Also, here are the detective results I have from FH and
(...)
FH:
CA Innocent(N1), Prole Innocent(N2), GH Innocent(N3), TinCow Guilty (N4).
:inquisitive:
I remember Cosa Nuova II, hosted by Kommo, where the mafia was able to recruit townies. Those townies were no more then puppets who were to obey the original mafiosi.
If all original mafiosi would die, the town would win.
Now, what if the resurrection = mafia recruiting townie puppets.
We have a guilty detective result on TinCow who admitted that he has killed 4 townies.
This game is confusing. Damn you, you evil kamikhaan ! You're making my head hurt!
Well, doesn't matter anymore if he's pro-town or not. I don't think he'll survive the night. ~;)
Now it's just classic mafia.. 2 killers left, and a bunch of town. need to pick our lynches carefully. :sweatdrop:
Well, doesn't matter anymore if he's pro-town or not. I don't think he'll survive the night. ~;)
Now it's just classic mafia.. 2 killers left, and a bunch of town. need to pick our lynches carefully. :sweatdrop:
We'll see if TinCow dies tonight...
We lynch Crazed and TinCow kills Mouza tonight?
FactionHeir
04-02-2008, 14:43
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say it, but it was a general PM query I made with kamikhaan at the start of the game:
Mafia: Always appear guilty
Townie/SK: Appear guilty only after they have killed
Which is why I suggested a while back to reinvestigate N1 results too.
I made a mistake. I thought CR actually voted w&f with his post, which he did not. Without the actual vote, it seems less scummy. I am going to withdraw the "Big" part of my FoS against him. Also, in post #26 in the old town thread, pever stated that one of his mafia buddies suggested the grim reaper persona. I haven't looked for myself, but Rythmic says that woad&fangs was the first person to say this in the public thread. If pever was referring to a mafia buddy's statement in this thread, then it would be woad&fangs. However, if he was referring to a private statement, it might be someone else.
Also, Sarathos is something of a puzzle. pever claimed he would kill him, then didn't and killed Andres. This seems like mafia protecting one of his own. However, it could just have been a whim as pever suggests, since Sarathos was pever's kill suggestion in the first place. Also, pever claimed he would kill Sarathos when he was about to be lynched. This could have been a lie to protect Sarathos, or it could have been the truth to get pever some credibility if he had survived the day phase. I don't know what to think, really.
Revised FoS list:
Big FoS: Mouzafphaerre
Big FoS: woad&fangs
FoS: Crazed Rabbit
FoS: Hannibalbarc
FoS: Fahad I
FoS: Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
04-02-2008, 15:40
Let's remove the wonderful narrative and examine the framework of events.
1. A attacks B, B Dies.
2. C attacks A, D & E approach.
3. C kills A.
4. D & E battle, F joins battle.
5. D kills E & F.
Players:
A = Mak' (fully incinerated, no raise likely here); blue w/ 2 blades
B = Seamus (Good riddance to bad rubbish)
C = TinCow (assumes he issued orders as stated) black blade was used (part of signature from before, see CSI post).
D = Club/SS man -- presumed to be Herakles, which also fits with kill partics on E&F
E = BananaBob (Hydra, successfully protected TinCow)
F = Elite Ferret (Cerebus, failed to protect BananBob [25% chance?])
Thoughts & Musings:
Mak's character was clearly one of our killers. This is the ONLY "very likely to be angel mafia" type now dead. (Kalraati)
A second "very likely to be angel mafia," our dear Herakles, was unhappy not to be able to "complete his mission" which the writeup suggests means that he was targeting TinCow. However, if there real is a Heraklian ability to kill the mytho-beasts, I suspect that this is a canard and that Herc got the hoped for result. (Heracles)
At the outset, Kami suggested 2-4 mafiosi (angels), 2 Docs, 2 Dicks, plus other characters.
As of now, TinCow's summary suggests that all 4 basic power roles for the town are dead. Only specialist roles remain.
pevergreen's role is indeterminate. He was a claimed multiple killer, but argued that he was transforming into a powerful pro-town figure thereby. We disagreed and lynched him. The "old" thread does not show him well. Killing folks because they were "annoying" etc. Too petulant. Of course, TinCow made essentially the same argument....However, TinCow's discussion in the "old" thread does lend his role claim more credibility. He was very open and his subsequent actions have matched his claims.
How innocent is innocent? Godfathers in many games read as "innocent." Does this mean that one of the results obtained by the supposed detectives listed in TC's assessment are false?
I missed something obvious. Fahad I was attacked on N3 by the mafia, thus he can't be one. The FoS list narrows:
Big FoS: Mouzafphaerre
Big FoS: woad&fangs
FoS: Crazed Rabbit
FoS: Hannibalbarc
FoS: Sarathos
Damn, yeah, good one TC, how could we forget about that one? :dizzy2:
Anyway... with only 5 possible mafia left this should be a town victory. :yes: :beam:
Kommodus
04-02-2008, 17:06
Hm... I was suspicious of both Crazed Rabbit and Hannibalbarc earlier. I think I will:
Vote: Hannibalbarc
What's your opinion of the proceedings? You've been following them closely but not commenting much. :inquisitive:
I don't think Mouzafphaerre is guilty, a mafia won't be that stupid as to FoS the townie network.
I still think da townie network is teh scum though.
BananaBob
04-02-2008, 17:32
Let's remove the wonderful narrative and examine the framework of events.
F = Elite Ferret (Cerebus, failed to protect BananBob [25% chance?])
IIRC we had a 15%-25% to kill the person we were blocking. I dont think we had a failure percent.
Hannibalbarc
04-02-2008, 17:57
Hm... I was suspicious of both Crazed Rabbit and Hannibalbarc earlier. I think I will:
Vote: Hannibalbarc
What's your opinion of the proceedings? You've been following them closely but not commenting much. :inquisitive:
My Fos list is the same as TC's except myself removed, and which mafia are left?
Heracles, and who is the other guy, is he the shape shifter? I got confused with all these mafia monsters, oh and Kommodus, lynch me and the mafia are one step closer to winning as it would be a wasted lynch, although I still think it's unlikely the mafia will win.
My FoS towards Hannibal is growing.. :no:
GeneralHankerchief
04-02-2008, 20:27
Atropos, where are you?
I have done as you have asked. I have brought your one soul back and will soon finish with the second. My end of the bargain has held up, O Mistress of Destiny. Now I want you to hold up yours. I want you to cut the threads.
BAPHOMET WANTS HIS ARMY!
I have tried to find you privately, but alas, my efforts have been in vain. I put the message out here in hopes that you will respond. Time is running low and I will finish with the process this night. Show yourself, Fate, for the good of the Netherworld.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2008, 20:43
haha, this game is sweet.
TinCow, why are GH and Kommo confirmed innocent?
TinCow, why are GH and Kommo confirmed innocent?
The detective results I posted previously:
Seamus:
Kommodus Innocent(N1), Yaropolk Innocent(N2), Rythmic Innocent(N3), Late PM (N4).
FH:
CA Innocent(N1), Prole Innocent(N2), GH Innocent(N3), TinCow Guilty (N4).
This game is bizarre.
Atropos, where are you?
I have done as you have asked. I have brought your one soul back and will soon finish with the second. My end of the bargain has held up, O Mistress of Destiny. Now I want you to hold up yours. I want you to cut the threads.
BAPHOMET WANTS HIS ARMY!
I have tried to find you privately, but alas, my efforts have been in vain. I put the message out here in hopes that you will respond. Time is running low and I will finish with the process this night. Show yourself, Fate, for the good of the Netherworld.
All I have to say is :huh:
The detective results I posted previously:
That's what happens to me when I've not been drunk for more then two weeks :shame:
This game is bizarre.
:yes:
Heck, there are even people who get a guilty result upon investigation, post that guilty results themselves and nobody wants to lynch'em.
It reminds me of Capo II...
Hannibalbarc
04-02-2008, 21:53
A message to any detective that is still alive(if there is any), please investigate me, this is to prove that I'm not guilty and so the rest of the town doesn't waste their time wondering about me(I am on the fos list of quite a few people), if by some odd reason the results say I'm guilty, then by all means lynch me.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-02-2008, 22:07
How innocent is innocent? Godfathers in many games read as "innocent." Does this mean that one of the results obtained by the supposed detectives listed in TC's assessment are false?
At the risk of repeating myself....
GH, Atropos apparently swung by my place last night with her shears and a viscious laugh, picked my thread, and...the end result hurt just a bit.
I am, however, beginning to believe that there are ZERO true (as in vanilla) townie roles. Therefore, this game will last a while yet.
I was a true townie... ~:mecry:
Hannibal... how convenient... the detectives have been murdered in the past two nights. Don't play 'inactive townie' please, just confess! :yes: :whip:
Btw, so GH is another power role? Seems like he resurrected Sigurd, and both aren't 100% pro-town. Seems also like he's going to resurrect another person, and thereby completing whatever mission or objective he has.
Reason for worry!
Proletariat
04-02-2008, 22:18
Vote: Hannibal Not that hard to ask for detective results to prove yourself after you helped kill them :/
A message to any detective that is still alive(if there is any), please investigate me, this is to prove that I'm not guilty and so the rest of the town doesn't waste their time wondering about me(I am on the fos list of quite a few people), if by some odd reason the results say I'm guilty, then by all means lynch me.
So when do the ridiculous fake reveals begin? Or did they already? I can't tell if this game is absurd or brilliant but it's damn good fun
I am so confused! =O
Just a thought but this "Astropos" seems to be similar to Shiva the destroyer in Hindu mythology...
Northnovas
04-02-2008, 22:48
I am so confused! =O
Just a thought but this "Astropos" seems to be similar to Shiva the destroyer in Hindu mythology...
They all have the same storyline and message it is only the culture that changes the names. "Astropos" I sure hope he is pro town.:skull:
My vote has to go on Hannibal, he's been semi-lurking this whole game. Only doing enough to avoid a WoD. And I don't buy this "Oh! I'm innocent now! Investigate me!" ploy, it's garbage.
Vote: HannibalBarc
They all have the same storyline and message it is only the culture that changes the names. "Astropos" I sure hope she is pro town.:skull:
fixed ~;)
Hannibalbarc
04-03-2008, 00:44
Ok, whatever, I guess I'm a goner, hope the town still wins, I never got any pm so I'm just a normal demon trying to stay alive.
Thanks a lot Kommodus, you seem to like nailing suspicions on me.
fos Kommodus
Hannibalbarc
04-03-2008, 00:47
I am, however, beginning to believe that there are ZERO true (as in vanilla) townie roles. Therefore, this game will last a while yet.
What about those who didn't get any pm?
GeneralHankerchief
04-03-2008, 00:47
Vote: woad&fangs
I was hoping to see more evidence come out, but I guess it doesn't really matter. Lynch one here and I'll kill one tonight before I'm killed myself. That leaves 3 for future lynch votes. If the town keeps knocking them off, we should win even with innocent deaths.
The FoS list is mainly Rythmic's devising, so I'll go with his instincts.
Vote: Hannibalbarc
Tally:
woad&fangs: 2 (Sigurd, GH)
Hannibalbarc: 4 (Kommodus, Prole, Rythmic, TC)
Hannibalbarc
04-03-2008, 01:02
Vote W&F
I think somebody needs to put him in the spotlight for once.
I was hoping to see more evidence come out, but I guess it doesn't really matter. Lynch one here and I'll kill one tonight before I'm killed myself. That leaves 3 for future lynch votes. If the town keeps knocking them off, we should win even with innocent deaths.
Entirely ok. Except for one thing.
GH!
I do NOT think that his role is pro-town! He may be a serious treat! Why is everybody ignoring that?:wall:
I think I'll Vote:W&Fs
Where are you? You sorta dropped off the radar in this game, but you visited the Org today. Why are you lurking all of a sudden?
Entirely ok. Except for one thing.
GH!
I do NOT think that his role is pro-town! He may be a serious treat! Why is everybody ignoring that?
Because there's no reason to believe his role is anti-town. He wasn't under any suspicion, so he wasn't revealing to save himself. Plus he was investigated and found innocent.
GH!
I do NOT think that his role is pro-town! He may be a serious treat! Why is everybody ignoring that?:wall:
We're working on the GH situation. It's not exactly something we can ignore. I'll let you know when we get it sorted out.
woad&fangs
04-03-2008, 01:29
Hello everybody. Sorry that I haven't been around. I'm involved with a play for the next few weeks so my freetime is limited somewhat.
What exactly is the case against Hannibal? I think that he isn't a bad lynch but we should be exploring things a bit further.
It seems that GH resurrected Sigurd. GH is apparently one of the fates(the thread spinner) and he is searching for another one of the fates(the thread cutter). The fates are independent of both the God's and the Netherworld(according to wikipedia). However, I'm still not sure about whether they are prodemon, antidemon, or have their own random agenda. Shouldn't there be a third fate(the one who measures the life thread)?
For now..
Vote: General Hankerchief and FOS: Sigurd. Until we get a good explanation.
Sorry Seamus, but I'm just a plain old demon :shrug:
Hannibalbarc
04-03-2008, 01:31
Tally:
woad&fangs: 4 (Sigurd, GH, Hannibalbarc, Ichigo)
Hannibalbarc: 4 (Kommodus, Prole, Rythmic, TC)
General Hankerchief: 1 (w&fs)
Because there's no reason to believe his role is anti-town. He wasn't under any suspicion, so he wasn't revealing to save himself. Plus he was investigated and found innocent.
Oh there certainly is. Has he revealed this role to the pro-town network before? I don't think so.
I doubt that everyone's winning conditions is this game is either 'kill all mafia' or 'kill all town'. GH seems desperate to find his compagnon, so probably he thought that his chance of victory was decreasing.
And what's the value of a 'found innocent' in this particular game..
I say, lynch GH, unless he gives a good explanation.
GeneralHankerchief
04-03-2008, 01:52
I'm not a Fate.
Northnovas
04-03-2008, 01:59
fixed ~;)
Duoh!:embarassed: GH is a he though... right?:laugh4:
Oh there certainly is. Has he revealed this role to the pro-town network before? I don't think so.
I doubt that everyone's winning conditions is this game is either 'kill all mafia' or 'kill all town'. GH seems desperate to find his compagnon, so probably he thought that his chance of victory was decreasing.
And what's the value of a 'found innocent' in this particular game..
I say, lynch GH, unless he gives a good explanation.
It's impossible to tell. Do we have access to their private communications? No. They'd probably try to keep it secret if he had, considering what happened before with pever.
What's the point of having detectives if their results can't be trusted?
What's the point of having detectives if their results can't be trusted?
I'm just saying - an innocent result is far from a garanteed pro-town role.
Sarathos
04-03-2008, 02:49
Well my mind has just exploded reading this last few pages.
Vote:Beefy, We would like some input. (Or are you dead?)
Well my mind has just exploded reading this last few pages.
Vote:Beefy, We would like some input. (Or are you dead?)
He's dead
seireikhaan
04-03-2008, 03:18
Well my mind has just exploded reading this last few pages.
Vote:Beefy, We would like some input. (Or are you dead?)
:inquisitive: Dead a looooooooong time ago.
Anyways, we're at a tie right now. Next vote breaks the tie.
FoS Sarathos!
Another silly attempt to appear 'dumb/inactive town'. I don't buy it. (see it as a compliment)
woad&fangs
04-03-2008, 03:31
unvote: GH; Vote HannibalBark
Seamus Fermanagh
04-03-2008, 03:40
Hannibal:
I hope you like playing here at the .org
It is apparent that the locals enjoy lynching you....:devilish:
unvote: GH; Vote HannibalBark
Why?
FactionHeir
04-03-2008, 03:49
Probably because W&F is scum and Hannibal is not?
woad&fangs
04-03-2008, 03:49
As I said earlier, I think that Hannibal is a decent lynch option but I wanted a better picture of the GH scenario so I voted for him instead.
I know that I am innocent so I voted for Hannibal who may or may not have been scummy. I know that is a stupid reason but since he voted for me I didn't feel real sympathetic towards him.
Hannibalbarc
04-03-2008, 03:52
Well, good bye town, better luck next time.
Also may I add as I'm being beheaded, fos Kommodus
I think the easiest way to resolve this dilemma is with a vigilante kill on woad&fangs. I expect to die tonight, so this will be my last act for the town. If people think there is a better target on the FoS list, I urge you to speak up.
woad&fangs
04-03-2008, 04:00
I think the easiest way to resolve this dilemma is with a vigilante kill on woad&fangs. I expect to die tonight, so this will be my last act for the town. If people think there is a better target on the FoS list, I urge you to speak up.
:raiseshand:
seireikhaan
04-03-2008, 04:01
"HannibalBarc, the time for your execution has arrived," Kamikhaan announced. He ordered several guards to hold him down while he fetched the execution sword. HannibalBarc pleaded once more.
"Honestly, its not me! Its Woad, I swear! Or maybe Kommodu-" His claim was cut short as Kamikhaan leveld the blade to his shoulders, separating his neck from his torso. Hannibalbarc's body fell to the ground, moving no more.
Tally:
Hannibalbarc: 5 (Kommodus, Prole, Rythmic, TC, woad&fangs)
woad&fangs: 4 (Sigurd, GH, Hannibalbarc, Ichigo)
Orders are due to me by 9:30 P.M./21:30 CST. That's 2:30 GMT for Euros.
Kommodus
04-03-2008, 04:07
Ok, whatever, I guess I'm a goner, hope the town still wins, I never got any pm so I'm just a normal demon trying to stay alive.
Thanks a lot Kommodus, you seem to like nailing suspicions on me.
fos Kommodus
Always a pleasure lynching you, buddy! :shakehands:
I guess you're right; getting you lynched appears to be what I do best lately. :shrug:
What's the point of having detectives if their results can't be trusted?
There was a GUILTY result on TinCow...
Makanyane
04-03-2008, 08:31
There was a GUILTY result on TinCow...
don't be mean to him - he's only killed five people.... :angel:
Sarathos
04-03-2008, 10:37
FoS Sarathos!
Another silly attempt to appear 'dumb/inactive town'. I don't buy it. (see it as a compliment)
I will seeming you said so, but I really didn't know. That's why I added the question as I wasn't sure. Sorry Kami, I am paying attention I just lost track of who isn't dead.
CountArach
04-03-2008, 12:03
Alright, somehow I haven't been WoGed, so I am back here to help the town ASAP.
Kommodus
04-03-2008, 13:51
Probably because W&F is scum and Hannibal is not?
Yes, probably.
I love the fact that none of the other three people on the FoS list submitted valid votes. CR and Mouzafphaerre didn't vote at all, despite CR clearly being around. Then Sarathos votes for someone who was lynched on Day 1. It would be prudent to lynch them all, with perhaps Mouza being the lowest priority.
Yes, probably.
What do you think about TinCow and GeneralHankerchief, Kommodus?
Kommodus
04-03-2008, 14:09
What do you think about TinCow and GeneralHankerchief, Kommodus?
I'm going to wait to see what happens tonight before I comment.
seireikhaan
04-04-2008, 00:16
A lone, singular shadow sloped downwards from a character, making its way up a rugged cliff face, ascending the face of a small mountain, hoping to gain a birds eye view from the plateau which rested atop it. It crawled upwards ever farther, keeping a steady, even, yet unnaturally quick pace, until, at last, it felt its right hand grip an even, flat surface. Hauling itself up onto the plateau, the obscenely muscular figure wiped a sweat from its brow. This plateau seemed unnaturally hot, even for the Netherworld...
The muscular figure stepped its way to the other end of the plateau, hoping to find the target it seeked with little effort. As it peeked over the side of the plateau, however, the figure received an unexpected surprise. A fiery figure was on the opposite side, swinging in a wide arc to the left when it saw the burly figure above it, up onto the plateau ledge. The fiery creature hauled itself up from the ledge before considering its opponent. The two stood opposite from each other for a moment, a moment of respect flashing across the features of both. However, this would not and could not last. The fiery figure jumped backwards, and let loose several streams of fire at the burly figure. Its muscular opponent quickly crouched down, digging both hands into the ground beneath, and ripped up a large, earthen slab, using it as a shield from the intense flames. The fiery one sprinted across the plateau, taking pot shots at its opponent, who kept repositioning its earthen shield to account for new attacks. Finally, the assault ceased. The burly figure peaked out from behind its earthen shield, only to come under new assault as the fiery opponent had given up its ranged assault, closing in brandishing a jet black sword. The burly figure leaped back to gain positioning, then pulled its own short sword. The jet black blade came stabbing towards him as the fiery one continued after its quarry. The burly one dodged left, then came slashing in retaliation. The fiery one leaped to its own left, letting loose a stream of fire from it left hand as it evaded. The blast just nearly missed, as the burly one moved further left, creating a circular movement between the two as blades clashed and fire singed in all directions. The burly one took an overhand swipe with its short sword, only to be blocked by its opponent. However, no sooner had the enchanted metals rung with a loud clanging had the burly one taken a lunge forward, driving its left fist into the exposed midsection of the fiery one. The burly figure's hand drove straight through, as though punching through plywood. The fiery one's sword dropped as it fell to its knees, shock overcoming its body. TinCow's consciousness began fading, his vision blurred, his balance thrown into disarray. With his last drop of conscious will, TinCow ensured his opponent's destruction. With his last few moments, TinCow ignited his body into a pure fireball, white hot fire streaming in every direction. Woad&Fangs, his hand still stuck in TinCow's body, had no chance to evade. The fire consumed his body, peeling skin and flesh from bones, bones consequently charring. Woad&Fangs collapsed to the ground, his body virtually unrecognizable, while TinCow, having exerted every ounce of power and energy in his final moments, lay unmoving not four feet away...
Killed: 21
Shlin28 (N1)
Warluster (N1)
Scottishranger (N1)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N2)
Proletariat (N2)
Gibsonsg91921 (N2)
Sasaki Kojiro (N2)
Twilightblade (N3)
Tratorix (N3)
TiberiusoftheDrake (N3)
Drisos (N4)
Ichigo (N4)
Northnovas (N5)
FactionHeir (N5)
Andres (N5)
Seamus Fermanagh(N6)
Makanyane (N6)
EliteFerret (N6)
BannanaBob (N6)
TinCow (N7)
Woad&Fangs (N7)
Attacked: 2
Fahad I (N3)
Banana Bob (N4)
Lynched: 4
Beefy187 (D1)
TruePraetorian (D2)
Joe Monks (D3)
Caius (D4)
HannibalBarc (D6)
WoG'd: 2
Yaropolk (D3)
Warmaster Horus (D3)
Pevergreen (D5)
Suicide: 0
Alive: 12
CountArach
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo
Kommodus
Mouzafphaerre
Omanes Alexandropolites
Proletariat
Rythmic
Sarathos
Sigurd Fafnesbane
The voting will last roughly 24 hours.
woad&fangs
04-04-2008, 00:35
Ghost Vote: GH
He robbed me of my awsome climactic ending:whip:
BananaBob
04-04-2008, 03:27
Goodnight sweet prince.
FactionHeir
04-04-2008, 03:38
Hmmm there have been no other kills tonight and I'm not aware of another role blocker, so either the mafia is inactive or we need to lynch everyone that isn't a definite pro town role or townie without any other extra condition.
WEll done team! You lynched a fellow townie. I was away because my pc was broken and find this ****. Thank you all.
Edit: If you MUST use "foul" language, please remember that forum rules require ALL letters to be obscured by "*"s. Thank you.
Well there are four remaining suspects, two of which have been semi-lurking. In anycase, Both Mak and W&Fs seem to have been good targets so I'm going to ride our luck and see if our last major suspect is also a Mafioso.
Vote: Sarathos
That leaves three players who may be innocent or guilty.
Edit: Man my math sucks, had to change the number of suspects three (3) times.
When does voting end?
I won't cast a vote atm, because I don't have time to go back and reread their posts. So, I won't be able to do that until 5-6pm CST (14-15 hours from now). I'll just leave it up to you guys until then. Night :bigcry:
Beefy187
04-04-2008, 08:36
Its ok Sarathos.Thanks for making me feel important :laugh4:
Ok, people, listen up.
All mafiosi are dead. (I'm trying to make this post as non-revealing as possible, but that one might be questionable?..)
Yet, game isn't over. So, some apparant pro-town wasn't that pro-town after all, there must be a third side.
I think it's GH and his team.
GeneralHankerchief
04-04-2008, 12:10
The pro-town group knows I'm with them. Shouldn't be long now.
Vote: Sarathos
Kommodus
04-04-2008, 13:40
GH is right.
Vote: Sarathos
If it's not him, it's got to be Crazed Rabbit, or even possibly Mouzafphaerre. But everyone who's been carrying out kills recently is dead, so we should have plenty of time to finish this off.
Why on earth am I being ignored?
I can't reveal names, roles, whatever, but there MUST be a third side. DON'T lynch sarathos, mouza, crazed, etc 1 by 1. it will give that third side time to arrange stuff..
Know that I always prefer playing pro-town, and if ever my team has no chance of winning anymore I'll prefer town to win. (that's just a general note about myself)
See for yourself who dies and by what creature that will be.. it will explain.
Atropos, where are you?
I have done as you have asked. I have brought your one soul back and will soon finish with the second. My end of the bargain has held up, O Mistress of Destiny. Now I want you to hold up yours. I want you to cut the threads.
BAPHOMET WANTS HIS ARMY!
I have tried to find you privately, but alas, my efforts have been in vain. I put the message out here in hopes that you will respond. Time is running low and I will finish with the process this night. Show yourself, Fate, for the good of the Netherworld.
GH? Care to explain what this was all about?
I'm going to wait to see what happens tonight before I comment.
The night is over. TinCow is dead, but GeneralHankerchief is still alive. What are your thoughts on him?
Kommodus is obviously ignoring both me and GH... I wonder if he's on his team too.
Btw, Andres is ignoring me as well. :dizzy2:
I don't care what the Dutch says... GH is definitely pro-town. I know it, they know it and God err. Beelzebub knows it.
vote: Sarathos
Kommodus is obviously ignoring both me and GH... I wonder if he's on his team too.
Btw, Andres is ignoring me as well. :dizzy2:
maybe everyone has you on ignore :clown:
Makanyane
04-04-2008, 16:31
maybe everyone has you ignore :clown:
who? I can't see anyone....
I think the town should resurrect some of the crispy critters....
:devilish:
Seamus Fermanagh
04-04-2008, 16:36
I think I was had, starting on the morning of Day 2 -- and I think the fault was all mine.
seireikhaan
04-04-2008, 16:46
When does voting end?
I won't cast a vote atm, because I don't have time to go back and reread their posts. So, I won't be able to do that until 5-6pm CST (14-15 hours from now).
Voting ends at 6:30 PM CST, Ichigo.
BTW, the tally:
Sarathos- 4 (Rythmic, GeneralHankerchief, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Kommodus)
Kommodus
04-04-2008, 16:47
Kommodus is obviously ignoring both me and GH... I wonder if he's on his team too.
<< Looks up briefly from his desk... >>
"Did someone say something?"
<< Listens to sound of crickets chirping... >>
"Meh, just the wind."
<< Goes back to work >>
Crazed Rabbit
04-04-2008, 17:58
vote: GH
I certainly haven't heard of why he's to be trusted.
Oh, and i find it hilarious that I'm a top suspect for so many.
CR
It is strange that the game hasn't ended. I expected it to be done when I killed Herakles. Whoever is still alive didn't kill last night or the night before. From the looks of it, the mafia are also surprised that the game is still going, so I think there is a third party at work. I think pever mentioned that he thought there were 2 families operating at some point, but for the life of me I can't find that post now. He saw the mafia side of the operation, so perhaps he knew more than he told. Then again, it could have just been a bluff since he was playing the town as well.
[edit] Found pever's statement. It is post 86 in the old town quicktopic thread (link is back aways, won't repost it here because that may be against the rules since I'm dead).
I think I was had, starting on the morning of Day 2 -- and I think the fault was all mine.
This is an interesting statement. As far as I was aware, Seamus and FH were both detectives (or claimed to be). I don't know how they initially found each other, but from what I understand it was pretty early on. Thus, my reading of this statement is that Seamus thinks FH is involved in this somehow. That confuses me, though, because FH got an accurate result on me on N4, which was before I had disclosed that I was killing. Also, he's dead. Seamus, if you can explain your reasoning more, I'd like to hear it.
As a final note, I think it's ironic that it appears that Drisos was mafia as well. Thus my low-evidence hit on him on N4 was accurate. I don't feel quite as bad for my early game massacre now.
Makanyane
04-04-2008, 18:38
As a final note, I think it's ironic that it appears that Drisos was mafia as well. Thus my low-evidence hit on him on N4 was accurate. I don't feel quite as bad for my early game massacre now.
you apparently followed pevergreen's suggestions very efficiently
(townie quick topic post 9)
not that that necessarily means you're right in your assumption about him now, or weren't yourself part of this apparent mysterious second group....
Mouzafphaerre
04-04-2008, 21:50
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FoS: Kommodus for trying to shed suspicion on an innocent demon.
Vote: Abstain
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Vote: Abstain
This has got to be a joke. You've voted abstain every single day since Day 2. Are you seriously saying that for the last 5 lynch voting periods, you have not thought anyone was worthy of being lynched?
Crazed Rabbit
04-05-2008, 00:43
That is rather suspicious. Seeing as now one else seems to think ill of GH, and Mouza has been a top suspect for some, I'm going to
unvote: GH
vote: Mouzafphaerre
Of course, the same people who were suspicious of Mouza are also suspicious of me.
CR
Northnovas
04-05-2008, 00:44
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FoS: Kommodus for trying to shed suspicion on an innocent demon.
Vote: Abstain
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If I were alive and could vote a big FoS on Mouzafphaerre.
Vote: Mouza
He has yet to post anything of substance that I remember. He isn't helping at all and that's bad for the town. I think he deserves to be lynched over all the others.
seireikhaan
04-05-2008, 03:16
The council reconvened for what they hoped would be the final time. Numerous accusations immediately rang out for Sarathos. Little seemed contested until an "abstain" rang out from Mouzafphaerre. "What?!" People demanded. "How can he abstain again?!" A few votes were given his way, but in the end, the choice was Sarathos, who seemed oddly distant from the whole conversation for some reason. The deadline passed, and at once, all heads turned the end of the table for Kamikhaan to make the announcement. Much to everyone's surprise, a vacant spot filled his space. "Sooo..." a voice range out. "What now?" Everyone shrugged, confused as to where the lord might be. It became painfully clear to any observer they were quite lost without him to lead the lynch, as all simply sat at the table, twiddling their thumbs, waiting for him. Finally, hours later...
"Sorry about that, I got held up by family!" Kamikhaan burst into his proper spot at the table. "Anyways, have we decided?" Fingers pointed to Sarathos, who, for some reason, had apparently decided that if he didn't move, nobody would see him. "Alright, let's get this over with." Kamikhaan grabbed the execution sword and walked up to Sarathos, who still sat in an apparent stupor. Kamikhaan whipped the sword back with tremendous force, such that his grip accidentally broke free of the blade, causing it to fly backwards, straight into the chest of CountArach. The blade tore straight through him, rendering him quite unmoving. "Whoops...." Kamikhaan pulled the blade from CountArach, walked back to Sarathos, and with a single, clean stroke, decapitated him.
Tally:
Sarathos- 4 (Rythmic, GeneralHankerchief, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Kommodus)
Mouzafphaerre- 2(Ichigo, Crazed Rabbit)
Abstain- 1(Mouzafphaerre)
Not voting- 5 (Sarathos, CountArach, Omanes, Fahad I, Proletariat
Killed: 21
Shlin28 (N1)
Warluster (N1)
Scottishranger (N1)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N2)
Proletariat (N2)
Gibsonsg91921 (N2)
Sasaki Kojiro (N2)
Twilightblade (N3)
Tratorix (N3)
TiberiusoftheDrake (N3)
Drisos (N4)
Ichigo (N4)
Northnovas (N5)
FactionHeir (N5)
Andres (N5)
Seamus Fermanagh(N6)
Makanyane (N6)
EliteFerret (N6)
BannanaBob (N6)
TinCow (N7)
Woad&Fangs (N7)
Attacked: 2
Fahad I (N3)
Banana Bob (N4)
Lynched: 6
Beefy187 (D1)
TruePraetorian (D2)
Joe Monks (D3)
Caius (D4)
HannibalBarc (D6)
Sarathos (D7)
WoG'd: 4
Yaropolk (D3)
Warmaster Horus (D3)
Pevergreen (D5)
CountArach (D70
Suicide: 0
Alive: 10
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo
Kommodus
Mouzafphaerre
Omanes Alexandropolites
Proletariat
Rythmic
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Orders are due by 6:30 P.M./18:30 CST, or 23:30 GMT for Euros.
Mouzafphaerre
04-05-2008, 03:22
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OOC: I still don't understand how this thing is played and I can't say I'm entertained. The only reason I don't drop out is that I feel obliged to kamikhaan because I joined in the first place. END OOC
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
Reason: Self defense. Ichi would get it too but I believe we can vote one demon per lynch right? :inquisitive:
ADD: Sorry, kami's post wasn't there yet while I was writing mine.
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FactionHeir
04-05-2008, 03:27
Hmmm what Seamus might have meant is what I told him about our D1 investigations.
I don't think I can disclose how we found each other, but the hint should be enough (and I made it earlier too)
Sarathos
04-05-2008, 04:41
Well thats the end of me. Good luck the rest of the town.
If it's not him, it's got to be Crazed Rabbit, or even possibly Mouzafphaerre
I could of told you that.
CountArach
04-05-2008, 07:14
And down comes the WoG...
Sasaki Kojiro
04-05-2008, 07:56
I don't see anything suspicious about mouza...
From the looks of it, the mafia are also surprised that the game is still going, so I think there is a third party at work. I think pever mentioned that he thought there were 2 families operating at some point, but for the life of me I can't find that post now. He saw the mafia side of the operation, so perhaps he knew more than he told. Then again, it could have just been a bluff since he was playing the town as well.
At last!
I'm 100% sure there is a third side. Wake up, town!
Btw, I'm curious what will happen during the night.. :juggle2:
Mouzafphaerre
04-05-2008, 12:10
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Bah! The supposedly pro-town council is surely the third side. :gah2:
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Omanes Alexandrapolites
04-05-2008, 12:16
Sorry folks, but I'm going to have to suicide - I'm going on holiday for ten days, so I won't be able to participate.
My apologies for any inconvenience caused ~:(
Sorry folks, but I'm going to have to suicide - I'm going on holiday for ten days, so I won't be able to participate.
My apologies for any inconvenience caused ~:(
Enjoy your holidays ~:cheers:
Mouzafphaerre
04-05-2008, 13:16
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How do you suicide? :jumping:
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woad&fangs
04-05-2008, 14:28
Demons
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I- Might be WoG'd
Ichigo
Mouzafphaerre- Wants to suicide
Proletariat
Alliance of Questionable Intentions
GeneralHankerchief- Necromancer
Kommodus
Sigurd Fafnesbane- Necromancy
Unknown
Rythmic- I put him in the unknown because he voted with the AoQI but I think he is a townie.
Omanes- Wants to suicide
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The demons should lynch GH first since he definately has a role. Do not let the AoQI confuse you. I was the last of the mafia gods.
Kommodus
04-05-2008, 16:34
I'm not quite sure why anyone would listen to the dead mafiosi... :inquisitive:
If all of the mafia are truly dead, the only reason I can think that the game hasn't ended yet is because there's a serial killer or some such still on the loose. I don't buy the "second mafia family" deal that was proposed earlier. I never suspected Mouz that strongly, and now that he wants to suicide I'm guessing he's probably innocent. Same for Omanes, although even more so.
So at the end of the game, it's coming down to the process of elimination. That's the main reason CR is so high on the list, although at this point I'll have to revisit some other suspects. There's still the possibility that even resurrected players killed by the mafia might be anti-town.
I'm not quite sure why anyone would listen to the dead mafiosi... :inquisitive:
To me, you should listen, because I've turned pro-town after W&F's death.. If we don't win, then town should win...
If all of the mafia are truly dead, the only reason I can think that the game hasn't ended yet is because there's a serial killer or some such still on the loose.
ah right.... then WHERE IS HIS KILL OF LAST NIGHT?
I don't buy the "second mafia family" deal that was proposed earlier.
so... why are you totally ignoring GH's weird looking for attention,.. it indicates that he has at least some 'special role'.. and he's not willing to explain. does this sound pro-town to you? ah right.. you're probably on his side.. :wall:
I never suspected Mouz that strongly, and now that he wants to suicide I'm guessing he's probably innocent. Same for Omanes, although even more so.
mouza is obviously innocent.. and omanes isn't mafia neither.. none is. it's been said before... all mafia are dead. think for a minute and you'll come up with 4 names on the dead list that are mafia.. how hard is it to believe that we are extinct?
So at the end of the game, it's coming down to the process of elimination.
that'll take a while, and bring you nothing. how convenient for GH...
Any pro-town players that are still alive... vote GH... or you will be very sorry later on.
seireikhaan
04-05-2008, 22:52
Just a heads up to the players: I'm gonna be gone for a bit tonight, so the writeup will be delayed a few hours. Apologies in advance.
seireikhaan
04-06-2008, 04:53
In the former residence of TinCow...
“Yes, this should do quite well,” a wheezy voice mumbled to itself. “But I admit, this is rather interesting...a hole in its chest...I must admit I'm rather curious how exactly this sort of thing happens, but oh well...off to work...” The bizarre character drug the corpse of the previously slainTinCowonto an intricate pentagram chiseled into the rock floor, and layed the pieces together in the places they were when he was alive. The character withdrew from its cloak several jars, filled with all sorts of strange powders, gels, and materials which could only be guessed at... The character layed the materials in precise order on the corpse, stopping here and there to alter the ingredients. The character finally finished, capped the jars, and shuffled backwards. It layed hands on points of the pentagram, and began a long, intricate chant. Roughly two hours later, a chaotic light streamed from the lines of the pentagram, engulfing the character and corpse. The chanting accelerated, becoming faster and faster until it became incomprehensible. The light then focused into a spiraling vortex, hovering over the corpse of TinCow. About 15 minutes later, the spiral had apparently achieved a desirable size or strength, and the character pulled its hands from the ground, finally, and instead palmed the vortex, guiding it towards the corpse of TinCow, downwards and downwards, slowly but surely. As the vortex made contact with the corpse, light suddenly beamed from the eye sockets of the body, and it began hovering, as though seeking out the rest of the vortex. The character continued guiding the vortex into the body, until the job was finally accomplished. The body then hovered completely upright, and set itself on its feet. The character, realizing its mission was accomplished, immediately picked up the rest of its supplies, and fled the cavern. TinCow's body then suddenly lit aflame as life pumped back into his body. His eyes opened, and his knuckles cracked as he experimentally tested the grip in his hands. TinCow was back once more...
Rythmic was heading to his cavern when he spotted a crouching, dirty stranger outside the entrance. As he approached the stranger, it became clear what its purpose was. A bowl was laid in front of it, while its raggedy attire, topped by a hood extending from its cloak, made clear this was no well off creature. “Souls for the poor?” the stranger asked. “Please? I just need a couple, I swear I'll stop bothering you!” Rythmic ignored the stranger, shoving it aside to gain access to his home. “Why!?!?!” the stranger wailed. “Why not just a few? I'm sure there's got to be a couple you could spare for a needy stranger?” Rythmic was now quite irritated. He turned on a heel back to the deranged stranger, walking right up to him.
“Leave! I have nothing to give you! Now just leave me alone!” The stranger shrank a bit before him, before a grimace of anger overcame its face, offering a cutting retort.
“You greedy little creature! You don't deserve any souls if you won't share them! Why should the rich get to keep them while the poor languish with none?!” However, Rythmic was not to be deterred, and pressed onward against the ragged stranger.
“I told you already. I have nothing to give you. NOW GO!” In a flash, the stranger pulled a long knife from its cloak and sprang forward, surprising Rythmic. It caught the blade right through Rythmic's chest, ripping upwards. The stranger pressed the advantage.
“Won't share?! Won't share?! What about now?!” it raged. It charged forward, the knife still embedded in Rythmic, and pinned him to a wall of the cave. It pulled the knife back, and then took a slash at Rythmic's exposed throat. The knife cut through quite messily, requiring three more slashes before the head was completely separated from his body. The raggedy stranger looked down upon Rythmic's unmoving body. “Now you WILL share...”
Omanes Alexandropolites and Mouzaphaerre had sneaked out to the now abandoned portal which led to the 10th level of hell, where two previous inhabitants had been destroyed during the malfunction caused by the Spartans in the human world. Omanes turned to Mouza as they peered over the ledge into the permanent blackness. "Hey, Mouza, I bet I can survive jumping down here!" he dared.
"You don't have a chance. I'll even give you two to one odds and I'll take the bet," Mouza responded. "In fact, how about we raise the stakes even higher? I'll jump down too. Whoever survives wins the bet. Deal?"
"You're on!" Together, at the same time, the two leaped down like mad lemmings off the ledge. Rather unfortunately, it would seem that neither one ended up winning that bet...
Killed: 22
Shlin28 (N1)
Warluster (N1)
Scottishranger (N1)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N2)
Proletariat (N2)
Gibsonsg91921 (N2)
Sasaki Kojiro (N2)
Twilightblade (N3)
Tratorix (N3)
TiberiusoftheDrake (N3)
Drisos (N4)
Ichigo (N4)
Northnovas (N5)
FactionHeir (N5)
Andres (N5)
Seamus Fermanagh(N6)
Makanyane (N6)
EliteFerret (N6)
BannanaBob (N6)
TinCow (N7)
Woad&Fangs (N7)
Rythmic (N8)
Attacked: 2
Fahad I (N3)
Banana Bob (N4)
Lynched: 6
Beefy187 (D1)
TruePraetorian (D2)
Joe Monks (D3)
Caius (D4)
HannibalBarc (D6)
Sarathos (D7)
WoG'd: 4
Yaropolk (D3)
Warmaster Horus (D3)
Pevergreen (D5)
CountArach (D7)
Suicide: 2
Mouzaphaerre (N8)
Omanes Alexandropolites (N8)
Alive: 8
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo
Kommodus
Proletariat
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TinCow
Voting will end at roughly 9:30 PM/21:30 CST. That's 2:30 GMT for Euros.
FactionHeir
04-06-2008, 05:50
Hmmmm the last resurrection and GH fulfilling his pact seems to have activated the stranger that craves souls...
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2008, 05:52
This looks bad for the town.
This is confusing. :dizzy:
I don't think town can win this.. it's probably GH+Sigurd+TC+unknown.. so 4v4 already. and at least 2 abilities to kill.
Vote GH..
Is CR a potential WoG after this round as well?
So, who are we going to lynch? GeneralHankerchief or Crazed Rabbit?
By process of elimination, it's CR. I understand why everyone is freaked out about GH, but you don't have all of the information. GH's 'reveal' was faked to protect the real necromancer. When he did it, we thought there were still two mafia left. We expected one of them to kill me and the other to go after the necromancer. So, we recruited GH (townie) to cover for the necromancer. The idea was that the second mafioso would go after GH, instead of the real necromancer. GH is innocent beyond a doubt, as is the real necromancer.
Thanks to the suicides, the only suspect remaining is CR.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
GeneralHankerchief
04-06-2008, 13:59
Indeed. Obviously, it worked rather well, although I wasn't expecting to live through it.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
As I understand it,
The only one left that has not a confirmed innocent investigation by the detectives or has not been attacked by mafia is CR.
vote:Crazed Rabbit
I agree, after some investigating, it's gotta be CR.
Vote:Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
04-06-2008, 15:23
Right, so now you know why I was ignoring GH's claim. Care to guess the identity of the real necromancer? ~;)
To be thorough, I think it's best to at least consider all the remaining living players, since I'm not completely certain of CR's guilt:
Crazed Rabbit
The main reason I'm suspicious of him is because there's very little information on him at all. He's never been investigated, never been a part of the pro-town group, and hasn't said much during the course of the game - and a small proportion of that has been helpful. Late in the game like this, it comes down to process of elimination, as others have said.
Fahad I
Attacked by pevergreen, but protected by the doctors. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he's our remaining killer. I've made my suspicions of him known early and regularly.
GeneralHankerchief
Investigated N3 and came back innocent. His bogus claim was in the interests of the town. I think we can cross him off the suspect list.
Ichigo
Killed by woad&fangs and later resurrected by TinCow. I think his kill description makes his innocence apparent. Of course, kill descriptions are of somewhat limited value; we can't be 100% certain.
Proletariat
Killed by TinCow and later resurrected by the same. Like Ichigo, I think her kill description makes her appear innocent - though again, not with 100% certainty.
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Killed by the "archangel" (probably Makanyane) and later resurrected by me. Kill description indicates innocence, though it's not completely impossible I brought back the serial killer...
TinCow
His role is well-known, and considering I only just resurrected him, he could not possibly be responsible for tonight's death.
Kommodus
Your friendly-neighborhood necromancer. ~;)
So, breaking them down into categories, we have:
Virtually certain innocents:
TinCow
GeneralHankerchief
Kommodus
Very likely innocents:
Ichigo
Proletariat
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Top suspects:
Crazed Rabbit
Fahad I
We should have enough time to win the game without too much trouble, especially if we lynch Crazed Rabbit today and TinCow takes out Fahad I during the night (if the game doesn't end with CR's death).
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
TC's explanation of the necromancer fake reveal is believable to me. So, that only leaves CR or Fahad I. So Vote:CR Pretty crafty pro-town group.
Hannibalbarc
04-06-2008, 18:10
Hey TC, who resurrected you? there must be another pro-town role.
your question is answered two posts above you. Kommodus did.
gibsonsg91921
04-06-2008, 18:20
Haha good call Hannibal. Look two posts up :clown:
EDIT: Three posts, ya dirty Dieter
Crazed Rabbit
04-06-2008, 19:17
Tee-hee you're all going to die.
I'm just an ordinary townie. No one invited me to any 'townie groups' and I don't have any special powers that could benefit the group so I never sought one out.
But hey, if you want me dead I don't mind so much. Sure, my side may lose but that means the dastardly demons of the netherworld lose.
vote: Fahad I
Only a couple posts in the last ~300-400 posts, both quick votes with a sentence of explanation.
But go ahead and vote me. I don't mind.
CR
Hannibalbarc
04-06-2008, 19:44
Haha good call Hannibal. Look two posts up :clown:
EDIT: Three posts, ya dirty Dieter
doh..., I just quickly skimmed over the night results and posted.
As I understand it,
The only one left that has not a confirmed innocent investigation by the detectives or has not been attacked by mafia is CR.
vote:Crazed Rabbit
Helooooo... the mafia are gone. Whatever is killing now, isn't mafia, so, it could as well be Fahad.
However I still think it isn't just a lonely killer. doesn't make sense. because some nights, there were no kills, and the picking of victims wouldn't be logic.
I think town is waaaay doomed.
Gah who cares anyway.. I achieved 'total defeat' earlier on..
seireikhaan
04-07-2008, 03:41
"Crazed Rabbit, the council has decided unanamously in your guilt. You're response?" the voice of Kamikhaan boomed.
"Fine, you guys want me dead? Fine! Go ahead, hang me high, do what you want, but I'm innocent! You're sealing your own fates! You-" The voice was cut short when Kamikhaan, irritated with the crazed one's ramblings, decided to pre-empt the rest of his speech by beheading him with a quick stroke of the ancient execution sword.
Tally:
Crazed Rabbit- 6(TinCow, General Hankerchief, Kommodus, Fahad I, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Ichigo)
Fahad I- 1(CrazedRabbit)
Killed: 22
Shlin28 (N1)
Warluster (N1)
Scottishranger (N1)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N2)
Proletariat (N2)
Gibsonsg91921 (N2)
Sasaki Kojiro (N2)
Twilightblade (N3)
Tratorix (N3)
TiberiusoftheDrake (N3)
Drisos (N4)
Ichigo (N4)
Northnovas (N5)
FactionHeir (N5)
Andres (N5)
Seamus Fermanagh(N6)
Makanyane (N6)
EliteFerret (N6)
BannanaBob (N6)
TinCow (N7)
Woad&Fangs (N7)
Rythmic (N8)
Attacked: 2
Fahad I (N3)
Banana Bob (N4)
Lynched: 7
Beefy187 (D1)
TruePraetorian (D2)
Joe Monks (D3)
Caius (D4)
HannibalBarc (D6)
Sarathos (D7)
Crazed Rabbit (D8)
WoG'd: 4
Yaropolk (D3)
Warmaster Horus (D3)
Pevergreen (D5)
CountArach (D7)
Suicide: 2
Mouzaphaerre (N8)
Omanes Alexandropolites (N8)
Alive: 7
Fahad I
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo
Kommodus
Proletariat
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TinCow
FactionHeir
04-07-2008, 13:48
Hmmm no word of night PMs due?
Crazed Rabbit
04-07-2008, 15:57
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/2F02.jpg
Ha, you're all going to die for slaying an innocent demon! What a bandwagon that was, eh? It'll be harder when you must look among yourselves.
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/episodeguide/2F02.jpg
BwahahahahahaHAhahaha!
CR
Seamus Fermanagh
04-07-2008, 22:45
"Innocent" might not be:
a) correct
or
b) equivalent to pro town.
TinCow, a.k.a. Hades and known to have four kills, was returned from the dead. NEITHER of the supposed detectives was nor was there any indication in writeups that such an attempt was made.
TinCow established conclusively that he was anti-angels....but did he establish he was pro-demon? Why him to come back from the void?
TC, Sigurd, Kommo...Are you in league for the town, or yourselves?
seireikhaan
04-07-2008, 23:54
After re-contacting any and all player(s) still with roles, and confirming the decisions he/she/they/it have sent me, I will officially close this night phase.
NEWS: This will likely take a bit of time, hence why I attempted to get it started earlier than planned. I WILL offer all current players a hint and cliffhanger whilst I am working on writeups; after this night phase, this game WILL be over. See you soon.
Oh, btw, it would be much appreciated if all could refrain from posting until I post writeups; this will allow the writeups to occupy the top post on the next page.
TC, Sigurd, Kommo...Are you in league for the town, or yourselves?
Same question been on my mind when the game didn't end with W&F's death.
Town is probably doomed. Let's wait and see what happens at night..
seireikhaan
04-08-2008, 03:04
Fahad I was slowly marching his his way back to the great hall where the councils had been held each and every day since the destruction of the Netherworld had begun. He was feeling quite relieved that he had survived his guard duty once more, more so that he didn't have to have some other being come to his rescue against some violent intruder. A nice, stress free night...
As he came to the gates to the grounds of the structure, he was quite surprised to find them ripped open and tossed aside. Something tugged at his conscience, telling him that something was amiss, something wasn't quite right. He quickened his pace through the grounds of the complex, until he reached the door which would lead down the hall to the council room. He turned on the heel of his feet as he wheeled around the corner, only to jump backwards in shock. There, in the doorway, greeting all who entered, was a truly grotesque monument to malevolence. Three heads, currently indistinguishable due to scars, gouges, and burns, sat atop pikes which had been driven into the floor below, creating a wide-gapped, picketed fence of sorts in the doorway. Fahad I couldn't believe his eyes, couldn't believe the carnage had reached this far...
He slipped his way through the pikes, hurrying onwards to the main council chamber, hoping to arrive there before anything truly terrible happened. He sprinted as fast as he could until he reached the doorway to the chamber, ripping the door from its hinges as he leaped into the room. He was greeted not by the usual drum of chatter and talk, or even of the makings of a brawl between two belligerent demons. No, what greeted him shocked him so much that he fell immediately to his knees, in awe and fear of what lay before him...
Before him lay the unmoving corpse of his Lord, Kamikhaan, laid out upon the great table which he had been host of so many times before. Standing upon the table, with one foot on Kamikhaan's back, the ancient, terrible execution sword in his left hand, and a wild grin decorating his face, was TinCow. TinCow looked down upon Fahad I, and his grin grew wider. He motioned to behind Fahad, and he was immediately seized by two demons who had been waiting on either side of the doorway. Ichigo and Proletariat drug Fahad I up to the table, up to TinCow, who stepped down from the table to better size up his victim.
“My,” TinCow mused. “It has certainly been one very wild ride, has it not? I must admit I wasn't sure about this whole plan from the beginning, it put much on the line for me. But as they say, without risk, where can there be reward, no?” Fahad I was still too stunned to remark back to him. “You seem quite surprised by this turn of events, no? Perhaps you expected to just return to your little council every day, not thinking or realizing the events which would change this very world forever. That was your flaw. That was all their flaw...” Fahad I managed to spur enough courage and nerve together to manage a simple question.
“Who are the ones outside?!” Fahad I demanded. “Who's heads are out on those pikes?”
“Ah...that, I think, I can leave to the each of us to tell... it really is quite a tale, I suppose. It would be a shame for nobody else to at least hear of our heroic escapade. Proletariat, perhaps you would like to go first?”
“I would love to, MY LORD,” Proletariat responded, adding emphasis to the final two words, as if to add to the sting Fahad currently felt.
BEGIN FLASHBACK:
Sigurd Fafnesbane had just returned to his home following the near unanimous lynching of Crazed Rabbit, hoping to catch some rest and that the final remnants of the force sent by the Gods would finally be eradicated that night. He rolled a boulder over the entrance, hoping it served to be more sturdy than the earthen slab he had been using previously. About twenty minutes later, he heard a faint pounding sound to the outside of his entrance, seeming to resonate from the boulder. He got up from his position, and ambled over to the boulder.
“Who's out there?” he questioned. A soft, feminine voice responded.
“Could you offer a demoness a place for the night? I have tea!” Sigurd considered for a moment. Certainly, he had not had tea for a long time, and perhaps it might actually be even better since had been raised. Plus, it certainly couldn't hurt to have some female company over...
“Very well, I shall remove the boulder! Back up!” Sigurd slowly rolled the boulder backwards from its position blocking the entrance. As the blockade rolled away, a smaller, demon form was revealed, a creature wearing a shawl and veil which covered her face from the eyes downward, as well as a long, trailing cloak, making the demoness look as though she might be swallowed at any moment by the articles. She held a small tray in her hands, with a medium sized kettle on it, which seemed to be heating from invisible source. “Come in, come in, I have room to spare!” Sigurd boasted, sweeping a hand backwards indicating the large, yet mostly vacant cavern. “I still have yet to relocate some of my possessions, but no worry!”
“Thank you very much, very much indeed,” the demoness responded. “Please, have a cup of my special tea right away, as thanks for putting up with me for the night.” Sigurd gladly accepted the tea, and immediately downed a large sip of the brew. It tasted hot, spicy, very unusual for any tea he'd ever had...
Sigurd began a tour of his cavern to the stranger, and as he got the the empty cages which once housed many souls, he suddenly felt woozy, nauseous. “Wha...What was in that tea?” he questioned the demoness. Suddenly, suspicion sneaked its way into his mind. Why was she so quick to offer tea? Why was she being so polite, putting up with his mind bendingly boring tour of a vacant cave? Sigurd began a stroll to the other side of the cavern, where the few weapons his previous assaulter had left abandoned, finding them useless. The demoness contently followed after him, leaving his question unanswered. Now within three yards of the weapon rack, Sigurd leaped for the nearest weapon, stumbling first before recovering, and finding his grip on a spear. The demoness merely looked at him with a pleasant smile, seeming to be unconcerned by her newly armed host. “I'll ask again,” Sigurd said. “What was in that TEA?!” Suddenly, his vision blacked out for a second, and his knees buckled. The demoness strolled contently up to him, pulling a short sword from inside her cloak. Sigurd's vision regained color, though it remained blurry. He took a stab at the demoness with the spear, only to have the attack dodged and parried with an eloquent swipe of the blade in her hand. Sigurd fell to his knees, while the demoness came down upon him with a quick stroke of the sword. Sigurd, in his near drunken haze, wavered at the last second, and the sword just barely missed a vital stroke as it sheared off a piece of Sigurd's left cheek and cut through his shoulder. Proletariat kicked him in the chest, knocking him to the ground completely as Sigurd's vision once more failed him. Proletariat took the sword, and began work beheading her hapless host...
END FLASHBACK:
“Of course, Sigurd was just one of our targets tonight,” TinCow explained to Fahad I. “Ichigo, of course, wanted in on the action as well. Would you care to offer your your events?”
“But of course, MY LORD,” Ichigo replied, as he, like Proletariat, stressed the final two words in glee to Fahad.
BEGIN FLASHBACK:
General Hankerchief had managed to finally arrive at the cell block which was his duty for the night to guard, just glad that he had managed to make it to the secure area before being attacked. As he sat down to rest his feet, he heard a shuffling sound to the end of the corridor, as though an elderly demon was strolling the prison corridors in search of news or something...
His curiosity piqued, GH ambled down the corridor, only to soon find the cause of the noise as a raggedy, crouched stranger who held a large bowl in front if it with both hands. The stranger looked about the cells with awe, amazed at all the souls held in each one, as one might look upon a long lost lover. Its attention switched to GH. “Good demon, perhaps you could spare a few of these souls for a poor commoner? I just need two or three... honestly, that's all, please?” GH looked down upon the stranger with a mixture of pity and disgust.
“Sorry, but I'm supposed to be guarding these. I can't just start handing them out to every person who asks for them; it'd defeat the purpose.” The stranger whined in response, coming closer to GH, seeming to be hoping to evoke pity.
“Pleeeaaase... just a couple, I swear I'll stop bothering you...” The raggedy one latched onto GH in a desperate sort of half hug, half squeeze. GH attempted to push the deranged creature off of him. As he began wrestling the stranger off of him, GH felt a sharp, searing pain strike his left shoulder, leaving the subsequent arm quite useless. Ichigo had pulled a knife from a belt hidden by his garments, and managed to drive it into GH's shoulder during the tussle. GH fell back as the pain caused him to wince, giving Ichigo the upper hand has he drove GH onto his back. Ichigo pulled the knife back in a wide arc, whilst pinning GH with his free arm, and drove it into his chest. He attacked again and again, striking mercilessly over and over again, even past the point when GH had stopped resisting...
END FLASHBACK:
“Yes, the whole 'homeless beggar' routine was quite successful,” Ichigo bragged. It seems that even in the Netherworld, creatures have enough sympathy for the less fortunate to let them close enough for knife range...” he finished with a wicked grin adorning his face.
“Well, yes, your's was quite a tale, Ichi, but perhaps its time for mine?” TinCow offered.
“Sure, I'm quite done,” Ichi confirmed.
“Very well, then,” TinCow began...
BEGIN FLASHBACK:
Kommodus was resting in his small cave, as he hoped to regain some energy for the coming days. During his meditation, he heard a strong blast echoing from the room next to his, where the entrance to his cozy home lay. He opened his eyes, and got up from his sitting position just in time to witness a tall intruder storm the other room, burning so bright it lit the entire room by itself. It spun instantly when it heard Kommodus move into his upright position, and held up a hand, palm facing Kommodus, and shot off a powerful blast of fire. Kommodus leaped to his left, just dodging the blaze. The intruder stormed into the room, as Kommodus fled into the third and final room in the cavern to attempt to escape. The intruder kept after him, shooting off another blaze into the next room. However, rather than making contact with an earthen wall like the previous, it hit a group of jars and beakers, melting the containers, but more importantly, causing a violent reaction with the contents of said jars. The jars exploded in a terrible blast, causing the intruder to leap back and hide behind the wall separating the rooms to avoid it. Once the echo of the explosion had passed, TinCow cautiously crept into the next room, to see what was left. Large amounts of the ceiling had collapsed, the walls charred, and an entire section of possessions had been liquefied. Most importantly, however, was the remains of Kommodus, singed in many places, incinerated in others, only his head seeming to have avoided significant damage. TinCow walked up to the body, and stared down. “Oh, my apologies, how rude of me. Thanks for the favor the other night.” TinCow then reached for Kommodus' head, and yanked it from its body with ease, leaving the cavern with quite a little trophy in his right hand....
END FLASHBACK:
“So yes, even Kommodus has fallen,” TinCow explained to Fahad I. “When we finished with our objectives, we returned here a little early. We put up our little display, figuring it would draw you in quite nicely to this little trap. And as we can all quite plainly see, it worked quite well. Of course, we had to get rid of a slight nuisance first,” he motioned a hand back the limp body of Kamikhaan. “So, Fahad I, you're the only one left now. You can either accept me as the new ruler of the Netherworld, or I can execute you right now.” TinCow ran a finger over the execution sword in his hand. “I can see why he kept this close to him. It really is an exceptional weapon. So, are you with us in our proclamation of a new, better Netherworld, Fahad, or will you be destroyed needlessly?”
Fahad, his head still bowed as Ichigo and Proletariat had him bound before TinCow, replied in a meek voice. “I accept.”
CONGRATULATIONS TO TINCOW, ICHIGO, AND PROLETARIAT!!!!! TEAM HADES VICTORY!
END TALLY:
Killed: 25
Shlin28 (N1)
Warluster (N1)
Scottishranger (N1) (VIGELANTE)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N2)
Proletariat (N2) (EVENTUAL FOLLOWER OF HADES)
Gibsonsg91921 (N2)
Sasaki Kojiro (N2)
Twilightblade (N3)
Tratorix (N3)
TiberiusoftheDrake (N3)
Drisos (N4) (MAFIA)
Ichigo (N4) (EVENTUAL HADES FOLLOWER)
Northnovas (N5) (ROLE BLOCKER)
FactionHeir (N5) (DETECTIVE)
Andres (N5)
Seamus Fermanagh(N6) (DETECTIVE)
Makanyane (N6) (MAFIA)
EliteFerret (N6) (DOCTOR)
BannanaBob (N6) (DOCTOR)
TinCow (N7) (HADES)
Woad&Fangs (N7) (MAFIA)
Rythmic (N8)
Sigurd Fafnesbane (N9)
General Hankerchief (N9)
Kommodus (N9) (NECROMANCER)
Attacked: 2
Fahad I (N3)
Banana Bob (N4) (DOCTOR)
Lynched: 7
Beefy187 (D1)
TruePraetorian (D2)
Joe Monks (D3)
Caius (D4)
HannibalBarc (D6)
Sarathos (D7)
Crazed Rabbit (D8)
WoG'd: 4
Yaropolk (D3)
Warmaster Horus (D3) (MAFIA)
Pevergreen (D5) (LUCIFER)
CountArach (D7)
Suicide: 2
Mouzaphaerre (N8)
Omanes Alexandropolites (N8)
Alive: 4
Fahad I
Ichigo (HADES FOLLOWER)
Proletariat (HADES FOLLOWER)
TinCow (HADES)
GeneralHankerchief
04-08-2008, 03:06
My God, perfect setup. Tricked twice in a row by TC. I'm almost sorry Lothar lived now. :wall:
Great game, Hades people.
Beefy187
04-08-2008, 03:15
Congratulation to the victors. Well deserved victory.
As for townies.. :inquisitive:
Great game Kamikhaan thanks for hosting :2thumbsup:
Northnovas
04-08-2008, 03:17
You know he's not going to have any friends to play with if he keeps this up! :laugh4:
There was just something when he revealed his actual role ......
Nice game Kamikhann I loved the story line.:2thumbsup:
It's not my fault I was given a serial killer role. :creep:
Ironic that my first and only truly random kill was the real vigilante.
Quote of the Game:
If TinC is using this thinly presented reed as a way to mask his mafo-status, he would have to have mega-big brass ones indeed.
For full disclosure purposes:
'New' Town Thread (http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/tD9Am2yRxgN)
Team Hades Thread (http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/PLvuterTvQ72j)
seireikhaan
04-08-2008, 03:29
Roles:
Mafia-
1) Michael the Archangel- special ability: would always slay Lucifer in combat, regardless of situation.
2) Herekles the Great- special ability: would always slay the Hydra and Cerebrus in combat, regardless of situation.
3) Shiva the Destroyer- special ability: would always slay Efreet in combat, regardless of situation.
4) Kitsune DaiYoukai- special ability: if investigated on a night when not killing, would appear as "innocent" to detectives.
Pro-Town roles-
1) Efreet- Essentially a vigelante in the town's favor.
2) Hydra- Doctor, had a 25% chance of slaying attacker when protecting. Would be automatically slain if attacked by Herekles.
3) Cerebrus- Doctor, had a 15% chance of slaying attacker when protecting. Would be automatically slain if attacked by Herekles.
4) Great Djinn- Essentially a role blocker. Could block one person from performing a night action at a time.
5&6) The two ghostly spectres- were detectives. Long lost brothers who got mixed up on the chaos ensuing after the Netherworld was invaded. Each had a special 'codeword' which was based on what their 'name' was in the Human world. Names were "Ham" and "Shem", both of whom were sons of Noah in the Old Testament.
7) High Necromancer- Could raise one person from the dead at a time, during night. Would have to wait three turns in between raises, to allow for 'recovery' time, so to speak.
Special roles-
1) Hades- started the game as a serial killer. After four kills, could raise two players from the dead during one night phase to start his own mafia, with the goal changing to that of a general mafia.
2) Lucifer the Deciever- This was quite a tricky role, and in retrospect, probably was too ambitious. Started the game as a mafioso, making 5 mafioso to start. However, had the option of going rogue. If killed three on its own, could convert two people to start its own mafia. Was NOT to sell out mafia teammates until at most 8 people were left, to try to keep the game in balance.
EDIT: Host commentary will be coming later, probably tomorrow. I'm a bit tired after working on this for about 4 hours... :sweatdrop: No worries, all will be revealed, if it hasn't already.
Proletariat
04-08-2008, 03:34
Yeah, this makes it official. TinCow is a mafia powerhouse. Awesome game, Kami. Thank you
2) Lucifer the Deciever- This was quite a tricky role, and in retrospect, probably was too ambitious. Started the game as a mafioso, making 5 mafioso to start. However, had the option of going rogue. If killed three on its own, could convert two people to start its own mafia. Was NOT to sell out mafia teammates until at most 8 people were left, to try to keep the game in balance.
I knew it! The way he described his role sounded too similar to my own. Unfortunately for pever, I beat him to the kill requirement.
Great game Khaan! Congrats to my partner Prole and my new Lord TinCow
Sasaki Kojiro
04-08-2008, 03:48
Can't say I'm too surprised...a pity I didn't get selected for reincarnation though, that would have been sweet.
btw, excellent game kamikhaan. Role setup was really innovative. I'm sorry I didn't have more time to play it.
Kommodus
04-08-2008, 03:52
Wow, I tip my hat to the victors, especially TinCow. You nailed us good, people, very well played! :bow:
Obviously we should've listened more closely to the people who said you were on a team of your own. I considered that view for a short time, but quickly dismissed it - to my own defeat!
And to think I raised Hades himself from the dead! I'll be a long time living this one down... :shame:
Fantastic game, kamikhaan - it was a very innovative setup. Throwing in the whole Hades twist was completely unexpected. Congratulations!
Seamus Fermanagh
04-08-2008, 03:57
I knew it! The way he described his role sounded too similar to my own. Unfortunately for pever, I beat him to the kill requirement.
Okay. I was right in that you weren't using that "thin reed" to mask your mafo status. I was wrong to assume that you weren't using it to mask your goal. VERY well turned (and obviouslly quite a bit of brass clanking going on).
Kudos!
Also, nice final play for Ichigo and Proletariat. Both of you stayed so true to your styles that I never thought something was wrong until too late. Even then, I was actually thinking that the twist was Sigurd & Kommo & TinCow, not TinCow in charge.
Well played Hadeans!
pevergreen
04-08-2008, 04:09
Very nicely done TC.
I guess I should have killed night one, or even not made my attacks obvious.
Close, but no cigar.
Very good game Kamikhaan. :bow:
Crazed Rabbit
04-08-2008, 05:17
Very nice game Kamikhaan.
And a 'I told you so' to the townies who lynched me. ~;p
CR
BananaBob
04-08-2008, 05:18
Absolutely amazing game Kamikhaan... I think I can speak for nearly everyone hear on how badly we were played by TC :shame:
:laugh4:
I knew this went too smoothly.
So from what kami wrote, TinCow started out as vigilante and upon receiving
his resurrecting power was able to resurrect two who then became his new mafia family...
Ok... I am not sounding like a sore loser here, but...
:beam:
Sweet talk and acting about the same as in Capo won this victory for TinCow and his goons.
Congratulations!!! :yes:
There was absolutely nothing that gave away this setup. Dying for the town cause and then get the necromancer to resurrect you to victory...
Hall of fame worthy. :2thumbsup:
Makanyane
04-08-2008, 08:22
Great game kamikhaan, thank you :thumbsup:
Very well played TinCow :balloon2:
At least I don't feel so bad about not working out what my special ability was now
Shiva the Destroyer- special ability: would always slay Efreet in combat, regardless of situation.
looks like Efreet was Scottishranger who TC offed in the first round anyway!
Well, what can I say?
Congratulations Hades-guys :bow:
I told you guys to lynch TinCow, even before his reveal:
- post 152:
Vote : TinCow
Sounds way too neutral. Also, it's too much explanation for a 1st round abstain vote.
- post 221:
I still don't like this post of TinCow:
With no information to go on, my natural instinct is to vote Sasaki, since I doubt I'll ever trust him anyway. That seems cheesy, though, and there's really no evidence to go on so far except for the numerous people claiming to have not received a PM. Some are probably telling the truth, but I would bet that at least one of them said that intentionally to make us think they were town. With nothing more to go on, I will wait and see if any evidence comes out. For now...
Vote : abstain
Hence why I voted him round 1:
Vote : TinCow
Sounds way too neutral. Also, it's too much explanation for a 1st round abstain vote.
My vote was ignored by TC.
And now you vote GeneralHankerchief because he misread the write-ups :inquisitive: That's an awfully bad reason.
Neutral sounding post; very much unnecessary explanation, voting for a bad reason.
Vote : TinCow
My friend, I suspect you know more than you let on. :stare:
Oh come on Kommodus. Fahad is fairly new to mafia games and your reason for voting him is bad.
FoS : Kommodus
As for me being less active: I went to the Ardennen Friday, came back Sunday afternoon. And there's also Easter and the magic 30 :cake: :birthday2:
Nobody ever listens to me :bigcry:
Thanks for hosting this one kamikhaan. This game was a blast :2thumbsup: :bow:
*sigh*
I wish I wasn't just a simple townie...
But it was a very good game to watch :2thumbsup:
dang....and I trusted you...
Gah. Well done TC.:2thumbsup: I knew that town would most likely lose when W&F died.. they were waaay off on their lynches.
q- GH, why didn't you explain more. You guys had no clue who was anti-town, and I vouched for you to be lynched. If you had explained more I would've started shouting about lynching someone else. ~:)
q- Pever, why on earth did you mention any names at all when infiltrated in TC's town group? You should've just accepted your own death.. you knew the names of the detectives already anyway, right? instead of only you dying, you took the last two mafia W&F and Mak with you.. :wall: Not too brilliant.
Too bad that we were wiped out so soon... bad luck that we had one wogged, (WH) not brilliant play by me, because TC recognized my behaviour as supicious and so I got myself killed, makanyane was suspected by some all along as well, along with pever. W&F might've held out longer, if only pever wouldn't have mentioned names..
Well done Hades...
Well like I said, I'd rather be played the fool by TC... turned out I was.
I have a question for pever and TinCow,
Did you know about the ability to form new mafia families from the onset?
Or was this something added to your role upon the milestone of e.g. 4 kills?
So from what kami wrote, TinCow started out as vigilante and upon receiving
his resurrecting power was able to resurrect two who then became his new mafia family...
Basically, except my role PM told me I was a serial killer, not a vigilante:
You are Hades
You are Hades, a Lord of the Dead. For ages, your task was to guide unjust souls down the river Styx to the Netherworld, where Kamikhaan would then oversee from there. However, you are fed up. You are convinced you are just as powerful as him, and thus, you abandoned your post at the Styx river to allow any agents from the World of the Gods through. Meanwhile, you have planned to take advantage of what you knew would be ensuing chaos, to destroy Kamikhaan and establish your own realm of the Netherworld.
To begin this game, you shall start like a serial killer. Each night, you may target one player to be killed. After you have achieved four kills, you will subsequently have new options available to you. I shall explain them in further detail then.
I told the truth about not knowing my own special ability until 4 kills, but from reading the summary, I think that was true for many of the special roles. Fortunately, I accurately predicted that it would involve resurrection and prepared for it accordingly. I have to admit, I'm particularly pleased with the whole public resurrection vote. The town convinced themselves of Ichigo and Prole's innocence simply because they voted for them.
Kudos to Andres and Sasaki, who were the only people who never quite bought my story. There was a reason I gave a preference for Sasaki on the resurrection vote...
pevergreen
04-08-2008, 12:31
@Drisos: I was infilitrating the pro-town side, and needed to give them credible evidence to back my story up. I tried to slow them down in how fast they killed you off, to make sure I had my 3 kills.
@Sigurd: Yes, I knew straight away, along with limitations i had. I choose to go straight for it, but not kill on the first night, Im not sure why. Make my "use my special ability on this person" more believable I guess. I did have that, by the way, I could flip results on the investigations, I just never used it, even on nights I didnt do anything.
woad&fangs
04-08-2008, 13:01
Mafia Quicktopic board (http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/b8wLG4SVha2)
Congratulations to TinCow and the rest of team Hades.
Town=EPIC FAIL: You guys didn't lynch a single mafioso:laugh4:
Great Game Kamikhaan :bow:
Thank you for calling me clever, Kommodus:beam:
Hannibalbarc
04-08-2008, 18:15
Bah, I knew I was right about Tincow, well, great game, nice trick tincow, killing your fellow mafia, and then resurrecting them later, or did you not kill prol?
EDIT: if you read Greek mythology, you will know that Hades is not to be trusted.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-08-2008, 21:32
I have to admit, I'm particularly pleased with the whole public resurrection vote. The town convinced themselves of Ichigo and Prole's innocence simply because they voted for them.
Haha, that was one of the most suspicious things you did.
You lynched me = You lose
Anyway, good game.
gibsonsg91921
04-12-2008, 05:18
Idk Caius, you always seem suspicious or that you know too much.
seireikhaan
04-13-2008, 00:44
Thoughts From the Host/Host Commentary: Part 1
First off, I would like to thank all who participated in my opening experiment of a game, and for putting up with my errors and rules and such. Now... to the game!
First, I would like to point out to all that although my role setup for this game was "innovative" as some have called, this also meant a fair amount of thought went into each one, as well as a lot of nervousness that it would turn out horribly wrong. Never before, as far to my knowledge, had anyone ever attempted ANY roles which would bring a dead player back to life; I had decided to go with two: Hades and the High Necromancer. I honestly was not totally for sure exactly what would happen as a result myself. Though to be fair, I did give a slight hint to everyone as the game was starting, in post 68 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1867193#post1867193).
A word to the wise...remember, location, location, location...just because one is dead does not mean ones usefelness has ceased here...
The roles were all decided by drawing paper slips from a baseball cap.
Herakles(Woad and Fangs)-- One of the mafioso, and a potentially powerful one at that. The ability to slay both doctors, I figured, could make this a game changing role if Woad figured out exactly what his 'special' ability was that I hinted to him at. In all, Woad played almost as well as I could have expected him, though he did take a bit longer to make the connection between his character, and the doctors who became evident after a few nights. Ultimately had no chance to win once Pevergreen sold him out, but gave a valiant effort, going after TinCow twice, and in the process, slaying both doctors, Elite Ferret and Banana Bob. Woad ultimately picked up a very nice list of kills: Both doctors, Hades, and the role blocker. Congrats on a very well played game.
Shiva the Destroyer(Makanyane)-- I honestly had a bit of trouble trying to balance out Shiva to keep some kind of balance with the other mafioso, but I couldn't think of other good ways to utilize the lore around Shiva without making Shiva itself over powered. Thus, I settled for the ability to slay the vigilante under any circumstances. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, Scottishranger, the vigilante, was slain night one by TinCow, and thus was a non factor in the game. Makanyane played pretty well, managing to stay out of the pressure for a while, before ultimately being sold out by Pevergreen.
Michael the Archangel(Warmaster Horus)-- I put Michael in as an attempted counter balance to the role of Lucifer. Michael's one and only special ability was that of being able to slay Lucifer under any circumstances, should the game come to the point where open combat started between the original mafiosi and a new mafia from Lucifer. Unfortunately, WH never became very active, lodging a single kill against Sigurd. He failed to vote consistently, and left me with no choice but to WoG him.
The Kitsune DaiYoukai(Drisos)-- This was another potentially powerful mafia role. Kitsune's, according to legend, were great shape shifters and tricksters. For those not familiar, "youkai" is a creature from Shintoism which is rather like a sort of metaphysical 'spirit' or 'demon' of sorts, although Kitsune were for the most part not by any means considered evil. In Japanese, "Dai" means "Great", so this role essentially translates(roughly) to "The Great Fox Spirit". I'm not quite sure if Drisos ever quite got his head wrapped around what his special ability quite was, but regardless, he was never investigated on a night when he wasn't killing, partly due to the fact that was in fact killing nearly every night before his demise night four at the hands of TinCow.
Hydra(Banana Bob)-- The Hydra was designed to be a doctor, but had an extra little ability. When protecting another, it would have a 25% chance of slaying the attacker in addition to the protection. I wasn't really quite sure what to expect from BB, as this was his first mafia game. I became quite concerned for a couple of nights, when it seemed that he was having some trouble picking up the nuances of Mafia. He failed to submit orders for the first couple nights, and was having issues getting legitimate votes in on time. However, he seemed to start grasping it better starting around night three or so, and played an integral part in the pro-town efforts. Helped to block Pever's attack on Fahad I, night three. Linked up with EliteFerret the same night due to what I assume was intellectual coincidence. Was slain night six by Woad while attempting to protect TinCow.
Cerberus(Elite Ferret)-- Similar to the Hydra role, but I thought it was simply natural that Cerberus be a bit weaker than a Hydra,and thus, I lowered the chance of killing the attacker to 15%. Overall, EF played a solid game. Protected Fahad I on night three, apparently figuring out the pattern already which Pever was following. The subsequent night, protected Banana Bob, once again against an attack by Pever. Ended up being slain night six by Woad while protecting Banana Bob.
Great Djinn(Northnovas)-- The Djinn was a role blocker, the idea being that it would use its magic to seal a player each night inside their cave(home) until day came. Northnovas was active all game long, though ultimately had a lot of misses in the opening acts of the game. During midgame, Pever gave incredibly overt hints to NN that Makanyane was a mafiosette, and that it would be wise to block her. Thus, NN was essentially parked on Makanyane for two turns, until he was slain by Woad while attempting to block Makanyane once more.
Ghostly Spectre 1(Seamus Fermanagh)-- The ghostly spectres were inspired, to a degree, by the Crusader roles from Capo II. Ironic, then, that Seamus of all people would end up getting drawn for one of them. Essentially, each spectre was supposed to be a detective of sorts. They were long lost brothers who had become separated from each other during the chaos of the opening attacks against the Netherworld. Thus, the only way for them to find each other would be to utter their own name from their time on earth as a 'codeword'. To make things a bit interesting, I decided to go with two biblical names, Shem and Ham, both of whom were sons of Noah. Not sure how they would've gotten down in the Netherworld, but whatever... Anyways, Seamus managed to get a fair number investigated, although he "malfed up"(his own words, btw) on night four, failing to get his orders in on time. He managed to get in a reference to Ham in the opening sequences in Post 89 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1868033#post1868033) while explaining what WIFOM was to the newer crowd, though this was apparently missed by his partner, or considered accidental. Seamus managed to clear a couple of useful townspeople's names, such as Rythmic and Kommodus, as well as getting guilty results on TinCow and Pevergreen. However, due to the setup and a well played move by TC, the evidence against him was set aside. As a note, I received a couple PM's from Seamus, who was apparently worried that Kommodus was actually guilty, apparently concerned I had used the 'don' function he himself used in Capo II. I consider it ironic he would seem more worried about Kommo, whom he got an innocent result on, then TinCow, whom he got a guilty result on. However, Seamus did lodge some suspicion about TC's innocence at the 11th hour of the game, thought to no avail.
Ghostly Spectre 2(FactionHeir)-- This role was essentially a duplicate of Seamus' role, with the exception that his 'codeword' was Shem instead of Ham. Either didn't notice Seamus' use of Ham earlier, or considered it incidental. PM'd me a bit into the game, wondering where his partner was, due to the fact that Seamus didn't pick up on his use of Ham either. However, FH managed to get his "Shem" out into the open by telling CountArach, his first investigee, when CA lodged this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1867193#post1867193), thus ensuring he couldn't take any backlash from it. I notified FH that this was dangerously close to quoting me, but that I would let him off with a warning, as I had not made any note that he couldn't reveal the codeword. He managed to clear a few more people's names before being slain by Makanyane, while, ironically, attempting to investigate Makanyane.
Efreet(Scottishranger)-- The efreet was essentially designed to be a pure, pro-town vigelante, nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunately, SR never managed to get a kill off, as he was, ironically, killed by TinCow, who would later claim SR's very role, on night one.
High Necromancer(Kommodus)-- I wasn't sure how this role would really play out. Kommo could start raising people back to life as soon as he wished, but would have to wait three turns following the initial raising in order to do it again. As a note, anyone who was raised by Kommo did retain any and all abilities they had before. Kommo ended up raising two people back to the game, Sigurd in night three, following Sigurd's death to Warmaster Horus in night two. Unfortunately for the town, TinCowhad duped nearly all of them into believing his story, and Kommo waited for his death in order to bring him back immediately, thus nearly ensuring the town's demise.
Lucifer the Deceiver(Pevergreen)-- This was, in retrospect, a role which was far too ambitious, and ripe for rule breaking. Starting as mafioso, Lucifer had the choice to rebel against the mafia and attempt to establish his own mafia, in order to establish his own Netherworld. After three kills, he would be allowed to 'convert' two townspeople whom I would choose(so as to avoid converting pro-town roles to his side). Those two would be allowed to combine each night from then on to kill one player. However, he was expressely forbidden from revealing his partners before the game was down to 8 total players; Pever actually was not lying about it. It was my way of attempting to try and keep the mafia from being sold out quickly to town forces. Unfortunately, it didn't quite seem to work. Pever started the game off by attempting to establish a pattern of going for the person with the second most votes, which was quickly snuffed out by both doctors, Banana Bob and Elite Ferret, thus stymying Pever's efforts. After a bit, Pever's story began unraveling, in addition to the "guilty" result attained by investigation. Pever, under immense pressure, revealed his role, as well as mafia. During post 666 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1877070#post1877070)(Ironic, eh?:sweatdrop: ), Pever claimed Sarathos was mafia, and that Makanyane was the same as him. This was simply unacceptable to me. Additionally, TinCow had sent me the three quicktopics he was involved him(according to him, it was because I deserved the entertainment). In one, Pever made overt hints and references to the identity of the mafia, thus ensuring their demise. The frequent and overt breaking and circumvention of my rules, and their tremendous impact on the game, was unallowable. Thus, I WOG'D Pever immediately and banned him from any of my future games.
Hades(TinCow)-- My, my, my... TinCow has now established himself as an ace anti-town force. TinCow played this game as well as I think was humanely possible, ending up so far into the town network that, by the end, he was essentially pulling the strings on everything. As for his role: Hades was to begin the game as a serial killer, intent on establishing his own Netherworld and overthrowing moi in the process. After four kills, I told him, he would have extra options made available to him. Upon his fourth kill, I revealed to him that he could raise two people back from the dead, whom would thus become his lackeys. However, his resurrection method was slightly different(though it used the ever useful and multi-tasking Pentagram). Rather than just 'recalling' the player, he recalled their spirit into a new body, one that was capable and dangerous. After two nights, each of those resurrected by him could kill by themself. Before then, they could team up for one, as their spirits became accustomed to their new bodies. Interestingly, Andres quite accurately pegged TinCow for what he was in post 578 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1875539#post1875539), as well as accurately summing up the overall function of the role in post 582 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1875588#post1875588), noting,
Four (4) kills in order to be able to resurrect two (2), players? And those 4 kills made without influence from the town, just out of the blue, chosen at random?
I refuse to believe such a ridiculous role and if such a role truly exists, then I refuse to believe that it is pro-town.
Unfortunately for the town, nobody seemed to believe Andres, instead ultimately deciding to lynch Caius instead of TC.
This was a classical example of the power that a little white lie can hold. TC just uttered a little white lie when revealing his role. Nearly all of what he revealed was very close to what I actually told him; the only difference was the details regarding resurrection, and ultimate goals. TinCow expertly put his services to the use of the town, gladly killing whomever they wanted, and ultimately even letting them pick who should be resurrected. After all, wiping out the mafia was benefitial for him as well. Even more amazing, he convinced Kommodus that he was so valuable that Kommo, rather than raising the known detective Seamus, waited an extra night so as to raise TinCow following his inevitable demise at the hands of Woad. Fortunately for TinCow, the town picked two quality players, Ichigo and Proletariat, both of whom are quite good at what they do. Both finished the game expertly, neither one deviating from their usual course. All in all, I, with all honesty, think this was the single best performance I've ever seen in a mafia game, period. I think TinCow will get a well deserved HoF nomination for his efforts in this game, and I'll give him a well deserved :bow: in the meantime.
Well, I'm about 1/2 done, I'll put up the other half of my commentary up later.
Well, I'm about 1/2 done, I'll put up the other half of my commentary up later.
Me wants other half of commentary :whip:
seireikhaan
04-17-2008, 12:43
Sorry, I've been a tad busy. The other half should be up later tonight, aka- 12 hours or so.
seireikhaan
04-18-2008, 01:07
Thoughts From the Host/Host Commentary: Part Deux
This time around, I'll be exploring the happenings of the game on a round by round basis.
Night One:
Elite Ferret will protect Prole.
FactionHeir will investigate CA
Tincow will kill ScottishRanger.
ScottishRanger will kill Caius
Northnovas will block Sasaki
Woad will kill Warluster
Seamus will investigate Kommodus
Makanyane will kill Shlin 28
First of all, we have perhaps one of the most significant kills in the game. TinCow went straight after the Capo de Tutti Capi, Scottishranger, and put him down night one. The significance of this would become apparent later to me in the game, when TC claimed SR's role for his own. Had SR been still alive, he could have likely refuted this claim, and changed the whole fate of the game, likely towards a townie victory. Additionally, Seamus started right off the bat by investigating Kommodus, originally to check what holmes was up to. However, he very much cleared Kommo's name for the rest of the game, though it proved to be of little avail, as Kommo was just as fooled as everyone else by TC's role claim. FactionHeir investigated CountArach, whom he would later use as a confidant to reveal his codename. Interestingly, I did not hear from Banana Bob, nor Pevergreen on night one, which originally got me quite concerned that I wouldn't have very active role players. However, both would eventually begin picking up their activity, and the reason for Pever's night one absence would eventually be explained by the role he attempted to portray. After that, not a whole lot of huge significance.
Day One:
Lots of random votes sent out, along with the customary Caius meatball vote that invariably occurs every first round of seemingly every game. Sasaki was the third meatballer, and thus ended up getting quite a few votes for it. Beefy187, apparently missing the bit about townies not receiving a PM, made a faintly scummy way of requesting clarification and ended up on the receiving end of a lynch. Honestly, folks, I get really tired of seeing lynches for this reason. Any half decent mafioso is going to make sure they read the rules damn well, and make sure any inexperienced partners do likewise, cuz this sort of thing always happens to folks who don't read them through. Imo, this is one of the worst reasons to lynch someone, especially in the first round. Its worse than random.
Night Two:
Northnovas will block Gibsonsg91921
Warmaster Horus will kill Sigurd Fafnesbane
Seamus will investigate Yaropolk
Drisos will kill gibsonsg91921
FactionHeir will investigate Proletariat
Tincow will kill Proletariat
Pevergreen will kill Sasaki
Another night, and this time even more kills. I was rather pleased to receive orders from four different killers, indicating optimal participation from their side(s). I was quite curious why Pevergreen decided to kill Sasaki at this point. Usually, Sasaki's left on board, especially in thsi situation, to take heat while the killers can all lie low. However, his attempted plan did sorta start to play out over the next couple nights.
However, the pro-town side was a bit stagnant. FactionHeir investigated Proletariat, only to find a limp corpse when he got there. I did, however, give him that Proletariat was indeed innocent, at the time of her death. Meanwhile, Seamus investigated Yaropolk. Honestly, I have absolutely no idea what Seamus was thinking when he did this investigation. Perhaps it was random? Perhaps he thought I would make sure to give a newcomer a role? Either way, Yaropolk was soon wog'd for lack of participation, and thus, the town got two rather useless investigations for night two. Additionally, I got NO protection orders this night, with EF being inactive for the night as well as Banana Bob. I was a bit concerned at this point that perhaps the town would get steamrolled by the combined anti-town forces. What with the multitude of kill, the bad luck by the detectives, and lack of participation by the doctors, I was thinking this would quickly turn into a massive bloodbath between three eventual factions. However, there was still more yet to come.
Day Two:
We started the round with a bit of questioning of me, regarding the nature of the writeups, and just how to analyze them. Of course, the writeups, in actuality, provided, at this point, almost no information at this point, and lots of time was, frankly, wasted trying to figure out what was what. Rythmic took up a lead position for the town, trying to get some good discussion going, but ultimately was pretty off in terms of what he was trying to get accomplished. In the end, TruePraetorian was lynched, with the deciding vote lodged by Ichigo. TP was really not given much to defend himself, in retrospect, due to the fact that he didn't have internet access. I think the town can get better lynches than that on day two. Lurkers really shouldn't be targeted until day four, after wog's have usually been first issued. Then a legitimate claim of lurking can really be issued towards players. However, sometimes folks just lose access to the .org and lynches probably should try to take into account for that fact this early into the game.
Night Three:
Kommodus- Raise Sigurd Fafnesbane
FactionHeir- Investigate GH
Seamus- Investigate Rythmic
Elite Ferret- Protect Fahad I
Banana Bob- Protect Fahad I
Pevergreen- Kill Fahad I
Northnovas- Block CountArach
Drisos- kill tratorix
Woad and Fangs- Kill twilightblade
Tincow- Kill Tiberius of the Drake
Yay! Three cheers for participation! Two mafia kills, one Hades kill, one Lucifer kill, two protections, two investigations, a raising from the dead, and a block! I was quite happy to get my max level of participation before the roles started killing each other off pretty soon. First off, we had the mostly unusual event of a player being raised from the dead. Kommodus, possibly with the in thread statements made by Sigurd regarding his killer, deduced that Sigurd was quite innocent, and brought him back. Ordinarily, Sigurd's a very useful person to have on one's side, especially once he's been killed. For once, he got a second shot! Anyways, only one major event for this round, as Pevergreen was blocked by both doctors, who apparently had both deduced his scheme of going for the player with the 2nd most votes from the voting session. Pever was a bit lucky to escape alive. Additionally, it only made sense to me that if both doctors are protecting the same person and both get called to action, that they would link up to work together. Thus, both EF and BB were now in contact and could perhaps better coordinate their efforts to save the town. Meanwhile, Seamus investigated Rythmic to find out where his intentions lied, after Rythmic had begun to be quite vocal in the thread. I was feeling a bit more hopeful now about having a balanced game, now that the pro-town efforts were seeming to have gotten their act together. As a side not, in case nobody noticed, but I was attempting to make Pever begin to seem more demonic the more that he continued attempting to kill, and started with a black hood, which was Pever's suggestion. I put it in, as it pretty much fit into my plans for the role anyways.
Day Round 3:
We begin to see the TinCow/Andres debate begin to unfold. TinCow does a slight reveal, and Andres immediately hounds him over it, requesting information at the expense of a 'townie' whom TC allegedly revealed to. I'm thinking it was Rythmic, but I can't be for sure. What did we learn from this experience, folks? Andres is moderator of the gameroom for a reason. He's more often right than he is wrong, and this time, he was dead right. However, the town instead took the bait of Joe Monks, whom voted for Sasaki(who was already long dead), while waiting for writeups(aka-nightphase). In the end, the town got very, very close to lynching TC, but ended up deciding to 'give him a night' to prove his innocence to those whom he had 'revealed' to. This gave TC just the time he needed to play along with the town and completely win over their trust, despite the nearly sheer absurdity of the role he'd end up claiming for pro-town.
Also of major note, I was finally forced to WoG Warmaster Horus, who was playing the part of Michael the Archangel. Its always a big blow to the mafia when one of the members is WoG'd, as every mafioso is critical to success.
Night Round 4:
Banana Bob protect Tincow
Woad kill Ichigo
Northnovas block Makanyane
Pever kill Banana Bob
Tincow kill Drisos
Makanyane kill Andres
Elite Ferret- protect Banana Bob
Factionheir investigate Tincow
It seemed the doctors were now doing a good job of coordinating efforts. Unfortunately, they were protecting what would prove to be the ultimate evil. Also, their continued use of protecting one player while protecting the protector would ultimately backfire on them later. Woad&Fangs killed Ichigo, whom would end up serving TC later quite ably. Also of note, Seamus turned in orders late, and thus, his did not get a result for this round. Meanwhile, his partner FactionHeir investigated TinCow, getting a guilty result on him. However, it should be noted that I alerted the detectives that anyone who killed, including vigelantes, would come up as guilty, as well as any mafioso. It would seem that FH bought the claim by TC that he was a vig, and thus, this investigation ended up going for naught. In other news, it became apparent that Pevergreen had linked up with some of the townies, and had convinced Northnovas to park himself on Makanyane, preventing her kill attempt on Andres. A blow to the mafia, as well, with the death of Drisos, who was playing quite well. They would have had a much better chance, imo, if TC had chosen someone else this night.
Day Round 4:
Well, it was bound to happen eventually, it always does. Caius finally met his doom at the lynching table, as the town finally lost patience with the fact that he continually kept lodging 'abstain' votes rather than taking a stance or offering analysis. TinCow finally gave an all out "reveal", which was detailed enough that the town figured there was no way it could have been faked. During the round, TC left the choice of his resurrections to the town to decide. As he most certainly had hoped, the town gave him two capable weapons, Proletariat and Ichigo. Also, Kommodus finally gave out his results on Holmes, though not much was really contributed by it. The town decided to stop its occasional hounding of him over the results, and stuck with their chosen path of Caius, despite Holmes' claim of innocence for Caius.
Night Round 5:
Woad and Fangs-kill Northnovas
Northnovas-block Makanyane
Makanyane- kill FactionHeir
Tincow- resurrect Ichigo and Prole
Banana Bob- protect Elite Ferret
Seamus- investigate Pevergreen
FactionHeir- investigate Makanyane
Elite Ferret- protect Banana Bob
Pevergreen- kill Andres
Banana Bob and Elite Ferret took up the town's advice of mutual protection for this round, and thus (nearly) assured their safety. Northnovas once again was attempting to block Mak, but was killed during the effort. Consequently, Mak got her kill in on FactionHeir, whom was, ironically, on his way to investigate Mak. Thus, the town lost both a blocker and a detective this round, strong blows to the town's efforts. I was, at this point, beginning to think once again that this would become rather difficult for the tow, as they were beginning to have their role player's wittled down, and I figured it would only be a matter of time before Woad figured out(or chanced at) that his ability(as Herekles) was to be able to kill the doctors and would consequently go after them. On the other hand, Seamus got his investigation in on time, and got his guilty result on Pevergreen, which I figured would likely mean his end, as the town seemed to have been a bit skeptical of his potential role earlier on. Also potentially hurting Pever's cause was the fact that he, finally, decided to go after someone other than the person with the 2nd most votes, going after Andres instead. My guess is he figured TC would be protected, and wanted to start getting some real kills in. Ironically, TC was actually open game this round, totally unprotected.
Day Round 5:
Well, this started rather pleasantly, then got really ugly for me. I got a PM from TinCow, who said he thought I deserved some entertainment as game host, and thus, game me links to all threads he had access to. However, it got ugly when I read the thread, and what Pevergreen was putting up. He not only revealed his role(well, sorta), but also revealed mafia teammates, specifically Makanyane. He also, I noticed, gave very overt hints that Woad was mafia as well, in the quicktopic. I was, quite frankly, furious, and immediately posted that Pever was WoG'd and banned. I had told him specifically not to sell out his teammates until the game was down to 8 players or less, and he attempted to wrangle around the rules. In the end, I decided to follow up on the suggestion laid out by TinCow that I skip the lynch today, so as to make the game less unbalanced towards the town. I was now quite positive that the mafia had no chance in hell er, I mean, heaven, of winning this game. It would come down to whether or not the town figured out TC's act.
Also, as a sidenote, there was one post which brightened my day. Banana Bob posted this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1877052#post1877052). Generally, when I'm playing as a townie, people lose my trust when I find out they tried to kill me. :jester:
Night Round 6:
Seamus- investigate Crazed Rabbit
Elite Ferret- Protect Banana Bob
Banana Bob- protect Tincow
Woad and Fangs- Kill Tincow
Makanyane kill Seamus
TinCow- kill Makanyane
Well, this was an interesting writeup to do. I was tempted to prelude the writeup with something along the lines of: Super Smash Gods- Brawl!:jester: Much like William Faulkner's novel, The Light in August, the main characters were finally all tying themselves together. Mak going after Seamus, TinCow going after Mak, Woad going after TinCow, Banana Bob protecting TinCow, and Elite Ferret protecting Banana Bob. :dizzy: In the end, this writeup turned into one massive, all out brawl between three different sides. For those curious how exactly this whole thing worked out: Mak killed Seamus uncontested. As note, Seamus didn't get results before perishing. TinCow killed Mak, pretty much uncontested. However, Woad's target was TinCow, protected by a guy who was protected as well. In the end, I put it down to my logic. It would seem only natural that Herekles would continue battle with both protectors, as he had started with one, and then transitioned to another. The doctors would stay to make sure their quarry was protected, as that was their number one goal, above their own survival. And I figured that TC would only logically flee after his goal was accomplished, having no reason to stay. Of course, the combatants wouldn't have much time to be peaking over their shoulder whilst fighting a monstrous hero. Since Herekles' special ability was to be able to slay the doctors in battle, they fell, while he continued onwards.
Day Round 6:
Well, we started with some pretty good analysis of what happened, as the town(and TC) scrambled to figure out what exactly had happened. TC had apparently hoped to keep at least one of the doctors alive to help protect himself for the coming nights. Alas, not to be. However, a rather confusing statement was issued by GH, who claimed to be Baphomet, wanting his army from Atropos. As I would soon find out from reading the town quicktopic, this was an attempt to make sure that the mafia didn't kill Kommodus, the necromancer, before he could raise another person from the dead. Didn't seem to end up mattering much, as GH turned out to be a late kill anyways, after Kommodus issued his final order. Discussion swung from Hannibalbarc, due to a post requesting to be investigated, to Woad, but in the end, a tie was had, and Woad broke it, ensuring his life for one more round, at least.
Night round 7:
TinCow: kill Woad and Fangs
Woad and Fangs: kill TinCow
Heh, not much tonight. With most of the role players now dead, and Kommodus quite apparently waiting for TinCow to be killed, this was all that was left to do. A one vs. one duel between Hades and Herekles. I had fun doing the writeup, and in the end, both perished. I always(except in the case of doctors) gave the advantage to the attackers, and as both were attacking the other, both had to perish. Thus, we have the official end of the mafia.(along with a very confused mafia to boot).
Day Round 7:
Not a lot of discussion went on. Drisos decided to go maverick a bit, urging the town to look inwards at their own group for the lynch, specifically GH. Of course, GH didn't actually have a role, so the town happily ignored Drisos, and instead, Sarathos was nearly unanimously lynched for his inactivity and undeclared innocence. Also, CA was WoG'd for not participating, even after he had posted that he finally had gotten time for mafia earlier in the thread that day.
Night Round 8:
Ichigo- kill Rythmic
Kommodus- Raise Tincow
Well, its now official. The town has taken TC's bait, hook, line, and sinker, with Kommodus having actually waited an extra turn so as to raise TinCow back from the dead. The game was, for all intensive purposes, over. I would have been very, very surprised if they'd figured out what was going on soon enough to save their rear ends, and in the end, they wouldn't. Ichigo got his first kill in, with his new persona as the poor, soul seeking demon.
Day Round 8:
First of all, I was a bit dissapointed to start this round. Omanes noted that he would have to suicide, and Mouzaphaerre requested that he suicide as well. Although to be fair, it wouldn't really matter in the end if the town didn't lynch someone of Team Hades. In the end, they continued down their list of 'unproven' townies, and unanimously lynched Crazed Rabbit, who offered his hilarious take on the lynch following his death. At this point, victory for Team Hades was now just a mere formality.
Night Round 9:
TinCow- kill Kommodus
Ichigo- kill General Hankerchief
Proletariat- kill Sigurd Fafnesbane
And victory at last for Team Hades! TinCow decided to go for the ironic effect by killing his personal saviour, Kommodus, and reducing him to ash, while Ichigo and Prole seemingly went for random kills, leaving only Fahad I to oppose them. Overall, a well played game by Team Hades, and I once again congratulate them on their impressive performance.
Well, folks, that's all! I had a blast hosting this game, and I hope you had just as much fun(if not more) playing the game. It was interesting to watch the chaos from a bird's eye view, it really does give a different perspective. Anyways, I'll hopefully see y'all next time...:evil:
pevergreen
04-18-2008, 03:32
I decided to target Andres, as TC knew my kill sign, so if I went after him I would have died.
The game could have turned out quite differently if I just killed someone unproven that night.
We begin to see the TinCow/Andres debate begin to unfold. TinCow does a slight reveal, and Andres immediately hounds him over it, requesting information at the expense of a 'townie' whom TC allegedly revealed to. I'm thinking it was Rythmic, but I can't be for sure.
It was Northnovas. At the very start of the game, before any night actions had been posted, we had the following PM exchange:
The proverbial genie in a bottle. :yes: Always a pain in the butt to kill when you're low level.
I have only been in a few but have always had better luck being a townie and the town has won even if I didn't survive. The challenge is getting the cooperation if you can't it get then the mafia do clean up. It really depends on the experience of the mafia players.
With your gaming experience (D&D0 are you familiar with a Djinn?
Yes, I am for a town victory. How is it more challenging, though? As far as I can tell, townies can't defect to mafia in this game, so we won't have the problem we did last time, where half of them bailed at the last moment. Without the ability to switch sides, it should be easier than in Capo.
TC,
I am for a town victory if you are in for the same let me know. These are more challenging.
NN
It was obvious to me that he was claiming 'Djinn' as a role, but he didn't reply to my response, so I didn't push it further out of fear of scaring him away. At this time I looked back through the available summaries of the old Mafia games in the sticky and saw that none of them recorded a serial killer victory. I figured that was a bad sign for me, so I thought I should prepare an alibi. I thus wrote a 'neutral' role PM in a style similar to kamikhaan's and sent it to myself. I knew I couldn't post it, but it was my intention to use that role as my reference point whenever I referred to what I could do, just to make sure that I never contradicted myself in any statements.
This was the role PM I wrote for myself:
You are Eris
You are Eris, Goddess of Strife. You exist to cause conflict and discord. The balance between living and dead always gave you a headache. kamikhaan's attack on the World of Humans pleased you greatly. Your have decided to aid the Netherworld, in the hopes of furthering the chaos.
Each night, you may target one player to be killed. After you have achieved four kills, you will subsequently have new options available to you. I shall explain them in further detail then.
After the second night action, I decided it was time to get a solid alibi going, so I contacted Northnovas again and spilled the beans to him unprompted in a request for help designed to look like I didn't know what I was doing. I was able to exploit my n00bness well in Capo, so I figured it might still work in my second mafia game. I definitely won't be able to use that strategy again. Northnovas believed me, probably because no sane mafia would have admitted to killing two people to a pro-town role after the second night. I gained his trust then by killing the person he suggested I kill. At the same time, Northnovas then contacted Rythmic due to Rythmic's high-quality analysis post, revealed his own pro-town role, and hinted that he knew a more powerful pro-town role. Thus, when I came under lynch pressure, Rythmic believed my claim because Northnovas had already vouched for it before the previous night phase. Somehow pevergreen got pulled into this group as well, but I don't remember how. At that point I didn't care, because the more people who vouched for me, the better. I thought the mafia would let me live because I was controversial, which is always good for the mafia during lynch votes. The rest was all done via the quicktopic boards.
Northnovas
04-18-2008, 22:27
Nice summary Kamikhann I really enjoyed the game!
I guess there are no friends in this game simple pm results in trust no one in future games. :laugh4:
Beefy187
04-18-2008, 23:38
You can trust me... :juggle2:
Thats if I survive the first two days. Meh I can see why I got lynched :sweatdrop:
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