Concert of Europe

[King Jan III Sobieski]

When is the deadline by the way?

[Franconicus]

Well, before we end this meeting, I would like to hear a clear plan how France wants to end his financial problems and how to restore order.

[Peasant Phill]

Wait, the meeting is already winding down? We're still stating our opining positions. Nothing has been discussed yet.

I'm very interested in the future of Greece and in extension that of Greece and Cyprus (both with a large Greek population).
In the light of recent events, I'm willing to work towards a clear decision in regards to these rebelious communities.

Also, In the recent years the colonisation of Africa has been intensified. It may be wise to come to an agreement on this topic to avoid future tensions.

Sultan Mohamed Ali

[Pranas]

Greetings.
My appologies for being up late for the meeting, yet still I care to join in the important topic discussions.

First of all, I bless all those who support my rule, and right over the Russian throne, thus I give an honest russianman hug.
Never the less, as I noticed, my country is being blamed for the curent finantial situation, and I cannot disagree with that, BUT...
Improving the new Concert ideas like a pact agains a rebells - only after the main rebellian period, saying honestly,which did caused that crisis, is a non-consequencial ethic.
On my oppinion, the concert should go through a whole bunch of important points in a consequencial ethical norm, not only aiming to a particular event or situation. We must not protect the past, but to secure the present for the safety on the future.
My conclusional point is - discussing about each major and possibly minor nation, making a topic about its agression, economics e.c. and trying to improve something we don't like. Thus, one nation never will arrise agains many.

Situation with the Greece.
1)The nation will be accepted as an independent state, when it will be able to fight for its freedom, with the winning force.
2)the Nation will be accepted as an independent state, when people in this region used to be lowed to the ground, like worms by the region owner.

I partly accept their freedom, however if more that 1 privel. will be given to people of Greece, I will deny their independence.
The idea is that the country, consisting of different nations, should take some responobility, and should try and improve life of all the people.
If I will see discrimination - Freedom for the Greecs.

I will try to continue with the Concert soon.
Nicholas I

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Well, before we end this meeting, I would like to hear a clear plan how France wants to end his financial problems and how to restore order.




Do not worry, we will get it done. I will take loans from other nations to pay off the debt down to an amanageable level. And for the order, I will send in troops to contain the proteseters. I will also spend some money helping them find jobs.

[Peasant Phill]

Greetings.
My appologies for being up late for the meeting, yet still I care to join in the important topic discussions.

First of all, I bless all those who support my rule, and right over the Russian throne, thus I give an honest russianman hug.
...
If I will see discrimination - Freedom for the Greecs.

I will try to continue with the Concert soon.
Nicholas I

Tsar Nicolas,

Either I'll be forced to behead my translator for doing such a bad job or you're such a master in double meanings that I can't get heads nor tails on your statement.


OOC: Seriously, what are you trying to say?

[Franconicus]

I will be busy with REAL LIFE PROBLEMS during the next two weeks. You have to have the conference and solve all problems of mankind without me. I will try to answer your pms as soon as possible.

Deadline could be March 1st.

[Prince Cobra]

You are not alone Franc. The demon of RL has not visited only you... This can explain why I have not been very active recently.

[Peasant Phill]

Not to worry. Take your time while we take over 19th century Europe.
Bwahahahaha

[Peasant Phill]

It seems that events, outside the controle of all of us, have prolongued this meeting. That's why I see it as my duty to reenergise the debate.

1) Financial Problems and how to solve them:
This will be dealt with when the French produce their plan to combat their financiel problems
2) How to construct a system to prevent military conflicts:
I believe that there is little objection voiced so far to have a non-aggression pact between all the members of this meeting. Nothing more, nothing less.
In addition, there should be agreements about spheres of influence. As I believe these will become the next obstacle for European stability.
3) How to fight republican ideas.
This is a point that hasn't been discussed enough. At least not detailed enough.
4) the dangerous situation at France
See point 1
5) the future of Greece
See point 3

[King Jan III Sobieski]

1) Financial Problems and how to solve them:
We will borrow money from the Dutch. We will cut our spending and cut our military (slowly) to have a small but elite military. Money from the loans will be use to pay down the debt and some of it will be use to help people get jobs and invest in our economy and industries.
2) How to construct a system to prevent military conflicts:
I agree, Sultan of Egypt. However, I think I am not the best suited for making up my thoughts of spheres of influces.
3) How to fight republican ideas.
Censorship when need be. Give the people want they want short of racial demands. Reward people for obedience and punish them for unrest. Secret police may not be a bad idea.
4) the dangerous situation at France
Dutch troops are on stand by to help us if needed. Reliable Native French troops are being sent in to guard me and sent to the trouble spots to "encourage" the people to go home and live normal lives.
5) the future of Greece
Allow Greece to be independent. Place a small western force on the island to make sure order is maintain and protect against incursions from the Ottoman Empire. Place trading ports there to help them expand trading wise.

[Prince Cobra]

I would like to be more precise with the measures against the revolutionary threat. Such an agreement has been reached with the Russian Empire.

Das Österreich und Russland hat eine Übereinkuft gemacht. Wir sind überzeugt Europas zu verteidigen. Früher, Russland hat die Gebieten und die Interessen des Österreichs zu verteidigen versprochen. Jetzt, die Österreich will Russland helfen. Im Österreichem « Polnischen » Gebieten gibt es keine Platz für Revolutionären und unsere Polizei operiert gegen diese Elementen. Ich höffe, dass die anderen Staaten Europas auch unsere Beispiel folgen warden und shcließen Übereinkuft für Kooperation gegen Revolutionären werden. Die Reiche können auch mit der Freien Stadt Krakau gegen die Revolutionären arbeiten. Satus quo müssen wir verteidigen.



Austria and Russia have made an agreement. Earlier, Russia promised to defend the territories and the interests of the Austrian Empire. Now, Austria wishes to help Russia. In the Austrian “Polish” territories there is no place for revolutionists and our police will work against such elements. I hope that the other states will follow our example and will conclude similar treaties for cooperation against the revolutionists. The two Empires can also work closely with the Free City of Krakow against the revolutionists. The status quo must be protected.

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Austria does not think Greece should be left independent. Such an act will lead to unexpected complications as I have already warned.

On the spheres of infleunce. I would say that the representative of France demonstrated how delicate the spheres of influence are by keeping silence. Great powers should work together, not rival to partition the world.

[Peasant Phill]

I would like to be more precise with the measures against the revolutionary threat. Such an agreement has been reached with the Russian Empire.

Austria and Russia have made an agreement. Earlier, Russia promised to defend the territories and the interests of the Austrian Empire. Now, Austria wishes to help Russia. In the Austrian “Polish” territories there is no place for revolutionists and our police will work against such elements. I hope that the other states will follow our example and will conclude similar treaties for cooperation against the revolutionists. The two Empires can also work closely with the Free City of Krakow against the revolutionists. The status quo must be protected.

Peace keeping is one of the core tasks of a government. I'm in no position to comment on a bilateral agreement, situations sometimes make it necessary to take extraordinary actions. These actions should, however, always be regarded as extraordinary. Every nation should have complete and exclusive soevereinity within its borders. In that regard, I like to caution every nation to keep such agreement always as short as possible and always under the leadership of the nation where the threat is located.


On the spheres of infleunce. I would say that the representative of France demonstrated how delicate the spheres of influence are by keeping silence. Great powers should work together, not rival to partition the world.

I agree that cooperation will be necessary to keep the peace in Europe. Many nations have set there eyes on Africa. In order to keep tensions between these nations down, it would be opportune to divide Africa in influence spheres of the the nations that are now already involved in Africa. If each nation is designated with enough African resources, then there would be no reason for tensions.

[Prince Cobra]

I would like to underline that the control over the revolutions in the Austrian Empire is in the safe hands of the Austrian secret police that is one of the best in Europe. In this case, I simply mean that Austrian security forces will also prosecute any revolutionist from Russia who steps on the territory of the Austrian Empire or dares to plot a revolutionary activity against Russia from Austrian territory and in this way Austria fulfills the solidarity principle of the Veinna treaty. The countries of Europe must deny shelter to those who commit the most dangerous of the crimes, an attempt of revolution (even when done in another country).


From the first post of the thread:

4) Solidarity – the power of the monarchs will be completed by the solidarity between the monarchs.

[Franconicus]

At Munich, the representative of the Curia, Cardinal Mauro, presents the lates Papal Encyclical:
Ardenti cura (With burning anxiety):

With burning anxiety We see apostasy and persecution of Christian believers.
Full of dolefulness We are looking at Our brothers at Ireland, which are suffering iniquitousness and oppression from the English occupants.
Full of dolefulness We are looking at Our fellow Christians at the Netherlands, which are suffering from the wrongfulness of their Protestant monarch,
Full of dolefulness We are looking at Our fellow Christians at France, which are led by a nefarious sovereign, that shrink from supping with the devil to slaughter brave Christian believers.
Full of dolefulness We are looking at Our fellow Christians at Prussia, were the true believers are suffering from the oppression of their king. We sympathize with the Bishop of Cologne, Clemens August Droste zu Vischering, persecuted and arrested by the myrmidons of the Prussian King.
Full of dolefulness We are looking at the Holy Land, where Christian sanctuaries are defiled.
We are thinking of our brothers at Greece and the Balkans, which are tortured by heathen beasts.

We send this message to all those living in persecution and oppression: The Lord Himself sees your suffering and He will send you His support. Hold on and keep hold of your faith! Do not let anybody mislead you! And do not support the unjust ways of your governments, do not support them in any way, do not enter their service or work in their administration!

We send this message to all Christian monarchs: Do not close your eyes for the need of your brothers. Do not forget, that the Lord gave you your authority to protect the believers. Our special appeal goes to the Imperator Rex of Austria: Due to the high rang within Christianity it is up to you to lead the Christian Armies in this fight!

We send this message to all Christians all over the world: Please pray your defaulted brothers and support them as much as you can!

Leo XII., PP

Vicarius Iesu Christi, Summus Pontifex Ecclesiae Universalis, Patriarcha Occidentis

[King Jan III Sobieski]

From the French Court:


Slaughtering Ottoman Turks count as our Christian brothers? So one moment, dear Pope, you call the Turks infidels, yet If I killed 20,000 of them, I am a murder. If I ally with them, you condemn me, yet if I kill them, you still condemn me. I am outrage by this.



Charles X, King of France.

[Csargo]

The Greek question is indeed a very intriguing one. We admire the art of the Ancient Greeks but such a sympathy should not weaken our judgement on the issue. We should grant the Greeks religious freedom and participation in the government, we should envourage the Sultan to abolish the discriminational laws towards the Christians in his Empire. I am afraid such a precent may create the illusion that rebellions can make the greatest powers in Europe to change their policy and in this way for the sake of ignorant mobs to ignore the real interests of their country and people. Shall I remind you, gentlemen, that the French Revolution, that madness that put the end of the life of a monarch and his family, began in this way. The result we had was 20 years of war that ravaged Europe. Indeed, I can not approve cruelty over the Greeks but I will not support such an independence. For what will the next step? Revolution in Paris? Uprising of the Polish that are never satisfied by the status quo? or perhaps another rebellions in Italy... No, gentlemen, I do not think this is a good idea. Reforms, yes but a whole new state puts too many question on the table. There are too many questions but no answers. Therefore, Vienna does not approve the idea of a Greek independence, for the sole reason this does not seem to serve our purpose of European stability.

Indeed it is. I agree with your views entirely. If we were to put pressure on the Sultan to give independence to Greece, what next? It would cause a ripple effect, and maybe more parts of the Ottoman Empire would begin uprising, because they would believe with enough pressure the Sultan would weaken and give in to their demands. I don't think it would be limited to the Ottoman Empire either. With the situations in France and Russia it would disastrous for either country if such a feeling were to take hold of the population. Greece should remain a part of the Ottoman Empire, but be given religious freedom. Also, as the Chancellor of Austria says, we should put pressure on the Sultan to abolish discriminatory laws that have been put in place against his Christian subjects. I believe with these measures put in place, we will see a calmer and stabler Empire.



I would like to defend the Tzar of Russia whose representative has not arrived in Munich yet (though the Tzar assured me he will send a representative), perhaps due to to the enormrous distances between St.Petersburg and Munich. I do not think Russia can be blamed for the instability and the recent war with Persia. I think we should be glad that the Russian government managed to cope swiftly with the rebellion. Austria also declares that it will cooperate with Russia on the Polish question and the Austrian police will prevent any potential revolutionary activitites amongst the Polish subejcts of the Danube Empire that can threaten the status quo in the East. Perhaps Prussia may also join our efforts in that matter?

Yes, I will help prevent revolutionary activities in my Polish provinces.

[Prince Cobra]

Apart from Greece, there is another disturbing matter: the Levantine separatists. The Pope is right to be unsatisfied by the development of events in Europe. And just as he said we have to take care for our religion. I would put the emphasis on the very place where the Saviour was born. It seems the Levantine rebels have dared to attack sacred ruins of Christianity and are harrassing the local Christian population. I wonder what are the suggestions of the Great Powers to cope with the rebellion in the Levant? Perhaps Egypt and the Ottoman Sultan wish to say something on the matter as well? The separatism seems to be spiralling out of control!

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Levantine separatists..... Make me sick. I do not support the separatists, especially when they destroy our Christian ruins, and use my nation's alliance with the Turks as a pretext. Chancellor Metternich, I do not know what we could do. Military action is out of the question, and even if it wasn't, would who send a "peacekeeping" force? Perhaps economic sanctions could work here.

[Prince Cobra]

For now it would be a good idea to hear the delegations of Egypt and the Ottoman Empire. There are many ways to support a country and direct intervention is only one of them.

[Peasant Phill]

Firstly, I'm gratefull that I can have my say in this delicate matter. And in absence of The Ottoman Sultan I feel I can't waste this opportunity.

As you may be well aware, I've ackowledged the new government of the Levant. I even proposed a far going diplomatic relationship. I'm still intent on going through with this.
However, that doesn't mean and I can't stress this enough that I condone their actions.

I'm in 2 thoughts about this issue. On one hand, I feart that they, as a military dictatorship, will only understand a show of force. On the other hand, foreign (Catholic) forces may provoke even more hate and unrest in the region and possibly over the rest of Europe.
I therefor propose the following: I'll have one final talk with the Levant leaders, explaining the severity of the situation. If this fails, then an intervention will be inevitable.

So I beg you, give me a mandate to negotiate a peacefull solution before endangering an allready unstable region.

Sultan Mohamed Ali

[Prince Cobra]

Firstly, I'm gratefull that I can have my say in this delicate matter. And in absence of The Ottoman Sultan I feel I can't waste this opportunity.

As you may be well aware, I've ackowledged the new government of the Levant. I even proposed a far going diplomatic relationship. I'm still intent on going through with this.
However, that doesn't mean and I can't stress this enough that I condone their actions.

I'm in 2 thoughts about this issue. On one hand, I feart that they, as a military dictatorship, will only understand a show of force. On the other hand, foreign (Catholic) forces may provoke even more hate and unrest in the region and possibly over the rest of Europe.
I therefor propose the following: I'll have one final talk with the Levant leaders, explaining the severity of the situation. If this fails, then an intervention will be inevitable.

So I beg you, give me a mandate to negotiate a peacefull solution before endangering an allready unstable region.

Sultan Mohamed Ali

I think it is too early for this, Mohamed Ali, Lord of Egypt. A man should not always negotiate with rebels for it could be interpreted as a sign of weakness. The situation should be discussed amongst the great powers and with the Ottoman delegation that we hope will finally arrive at Munich and then proceeding against the rebels after hearing all the options. Few days more or less would not change the situation a lot and the recent wave of separatism should be handled carefully or it could have disastrous consequences. Now I step back to give the word of any delegation that wishes to speak on the matter.

[Peasant Phill]

I fear that an intervention of the Ottoman Empire is out of the question. The Ottomans have been unresponsive when it comes to internal as well as international affairs ever since their defeat at the hands of the British navy. My belief is that the ottoman sultan has lost his authority over his subjects.
Even if the Ottomans would be willing to intervene at the Levant, I'm anything but confident about there success. Remember, The Levant, earlier an political incompetent regoin, has been able to deny Ottoman rule without retaliation. What power do you think the Ottomans will have now?

So, again, I propose that an Egyptian delegation will be sent to normalize the situation. I'm the key-nation for their international diplomacy. If they want to preserve even the slightest chance of a lasting existence as a nation than they'll have to keep to my good side.
If they don't realise this I'll be forced to intervene with force. With all of their harbours blocaded and certain key positions raided or destroyed, they'll have no other choice than to bend to our international will.

I hereby ask the Concert, again, for a mandate to declare our terms to the leaders of the Levant.

[Prince Cobra]

Lord of Egypt, your readiness to resolve the situation and stop the chaos is most appreciated. But for now, I think you are preocuppied with other complicated issues across the Mediterranean and second, it is still too early for negotiations with the rebels. As always the key is the information and I have made steps in this matter whilst waiting for the other delegations to prepare their speech. I expect to gather more information on the issue and hopefully, I will soon report the results of my activity to the Great Powers. I can even propose a concrete measures to deal with the Levantine extremists, if everything is according to the plan.

Klemens von Metternich on the Conference

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Hi Everyone.

:embarassed: I can not keep up with this what so ever. I just can not put in the time on this. (as you have all no doubt noticed, and commented on :tongue:)


I hate to cut and run like this, but I honestly don't have the time.


I am very sorry everyone :sweatdrop:

[Franconicus]

Sad news. But I understand you well!
Good luck and thank you!

[King Jan III Sobieski]

The Kingdom of France sees no problem in having our Egyptian friends pressure the rebels in Levant to stop their crimes. But, in order not be shown as weak, I think only 1 warning should be given. If not, then military force will have to be applied.


Charles X, King of France.

[Prince Cobra]

Announcement

In the name of the Empire of Austria and the Kingdom of Prussia, I, Prince von Metternich would like to announce that Prussia has signed an agreement for recognition of Ernst August as a King of Hanover (further information on the territories of the Kingdom below). Austria also partly recognises the „Hanover deal“ made by the former King of Hanover and present King of Great Britain, accepting it only for the Northern provinces of the Hanover Kingdom. The Prussian King also grants an economic access of Hanover to the Free cities of Hamburg and Bremen by Hanover as a slight compensation for the lost Northern Ports. The Kingdom of Hanover also receives a land linkage with its formerly isolated territories like Goettingen. This declaration shows the determination of Prussia and Austria to preserve the peace within Europe. We inform the other Great Powers for this fortunate outcome of a long and dangerous conflict that is now over. The other German states also receive guarantee for their territorial integrity and sovereignity.

http://bgoc.hit.bg/

[Franconicus]

So the Conference of Munich has aat least one result.

By the way, the papers are wirting that the agents of the European powers do nothing but wasting taxes for parties. We should agree on a statement to release for the press!

Papers also report of riots in the capitol of the Ottoman Empire. Rumors say that the Sultan has been captured, maybe even killed. Situation is still unclear, though.

[King Kurt]

Greetings from Lord Canning
First of all - we welcome the resolution of the Hanover problem and commit ourselves to work with Austria and Prussia to achieve the success of this venture.
Secondly - an announcement - The situation in Greece is resolved - my diplomats have worked with the Sultan to achieve the following:
Greece will become a British colony.
It will be ruled by a National assembly with Christian and Muslim representation - the assembly will be overseen by our Governor General who has the ability to overrule the assembly, but it is anticipated that this will be in exceptional circumstances only.
Britian will determine foreign policy - which will be in line with the concert
There will be a strong trade link with Turkey.
So Greece has a properious and peaceful future ahead of it and its tolerant society with full religious freedom will be a beacon to the world
God save the King
Lord Canning

[Prince Cobra]

Greetings from Lord Canning
First of all - we welcome the resolution of the Hanover problem and commit ourselves to work with Austria and Prussia to achieve the success of this venture.
Secondly - an announcement - The situation in Greece is resolved - my diplomats have worked with the Sultan to achieve the following:
Greece will become a British colony.
It will be ruled by a National assembly with Christian and Muslim representation - the assembly will be overseen by our Governor General who has the ability to overrule the assembly, but it is anticipated that this will be in exceptional circumstances only.
Britian will determine foreign policy - which will be in line with the concert
There will be a strong trade link with Turkey.
So Greece has a properious and peaceful future ahead of it and its tolerant society with full religious freedom will be a beacon to the world
God save the King
Lord Canning

Lord Canning, your diplomats once again surprised us. It seems the Sultan willingly ceded Greece to Great Britain. Now Great Britain has handled Greece to the power of the Concert. In order to keep the will of the Concert, will it not be better if a Central European nobleman instead of General Governor oversees the development of Greece? I am willing to support the suggestion of our host, the King of Bavaria (always well accepted by all the Great Powers) to send his brother in Greece for the purpose.

Prince von Metternich, Chancellor of Austria

[King Kurt]

My dear Prince Metternich

Thank you for the kind offer of assistance, but I will have to decline. Great Britian is an equal partner within the Concert and is more than capable in administering Greece. In fact we have wide experience of such a role in many parts of the world. The concert's sole involvement with Greek affairs will be foreign policy - as all European powers have acknowledged.

Lord Canning

[Franconicus]

In an interview the ambassador of Sardinia and Piement says, that the finacial problems of some nations, caused by their unbroken will to dominate their neighbors by military means, only covers the two real dangers for the wirld: the first one is the unholy desire for personal freedom, a desease born by the French revolution - and the wish of the people to live within their own national identity. Both are dangerous and if both come together, they may destroy the given order. However, while the first one, the desire for freedom, has to be fought with all means of the concert, the wish for national identitiy and freedom should no longer be ignored. The Kingdom of Sardinia thinks that it would be good for all, if the states have borders inline with the borders of the nationalities. Therefore, we support the idea of a Greek Kingdom - without republican ideas - to be a factor of stability in our world.


Gents, I am waiting for your moves!

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Sent. I send you more on Monday if you need anymore Info :).

[Prince Cobra]

Fuerst von Metternich gives an interview for an Austrian newspaper in one of the last days of the Conference in Munich. He calmly explains his high hopes that the plan for salvation of France and the agreement with Prussia is to be a solid ground for peace and stability. When asked about the Greek issue and his position, he says the situation within the Ottoman Empire is too unclear to comment right now and that the future of the province will be decided by the Concert at a later moment. Fuerst von Metternich also hopes the Ottoman Sultan will be able to cope with the complexed situation within his realm. He also says that he has put a lot of efforts to keep the balance within Europe after the defeat of Napoleon and will continue to do so. It is also immature, if the rumours are indeed true, for a serious politician to play with dangerous ideas like nationalism and republicanism for his own pleasure, Metternich says. As a Chancellor of Austria he promises that Austria will continue to be a stronghold of the enlightened absolutism, an island of stability and that the Danube monarchy will monitor the situation all around Europe carefully.

Edit: Orders sent!

[King Jan III Sobieski]

My filling of this void must come to an end. I must resign from this game, again...

[Peasant Phill]

This always was a slow moving game. Maybe it's time to look for more players if you're up for it Franc?
Otherwise I'll most likly lose my motivation to as I just lost 2 nations that were important/were a threat for Egypt. It's hard to scheme when I have to do all the scheming with AND against the same person.

P.S. I'll send my orders later today.

[Prince Cobra]

This sounds good, Phil... In fact, playing in team with several other people adds to the challenge

[Franconicus]

Maybe it's time to look for more players if you're up for it Franc
I think you are right. I will start recruiting and so there is a break until we have new players.

To the old ones: please confirm if you are willing and able to keep on playing!

[Csargo]

I want to keep playing.

[Peasant Phill]

If you find new players, then I'm still in.

[Prince Cobra]

I think you are right. I will start recruiting and so there is a break until we have new players.

To the old ones: please confirm if you are willing and able to keep on playing!

Are you joking? Of course, I do!

[Kagemusha]

OOC: Hello all! I will be taking over France so whatever machinations you may have had with the French earlier should be told to me in pm so i can get in track of where the French foreign policy is going now. I wont be making any deals prior i am actually in the game so please just pm me and tell me where have you been in French relations before my humble entrance to this game.:bow:

[Peasant Phill]

Great to have you here. You'll certainly be hearing from me.

Also, you may contact King Jan III to hear if he had something in the pipeline.

[King Kurt]

Kage welcome - good to see you back

[Kagemusha]

Thanks guys! Looking forward to play with you gentlemen.

[Franconicus]

NEWS FROM PARIS!

MOB GAINED UPPER HABD AT PARIS _ ONCE AGAIN. THE ROI WON'T BE ABLE TO RETURN TO VERSAILLES! HE RESIGNED AND TRIES TO FIND SHELTER AT LONDON!


By the way, still no news from Russia and Netherlands ans still no new player for Ottoman. Anybody knows someone?

[Kagemusha]

NEWS FROM PARIS!

MOB GAINED UPPER HABD AT PARIS _ ONCE AGAIN. THE ROI WON'T BE ABLE TO RETURN TO VERSAILLES! HE RESIGNED AND TRIES TO FIND SHELTER AT LONDON!


By the way, still no news from Russia and Netherlands ans still no new player for Ottoman. Anybody knows someone?


Viva La Revolucion!!

OOC: I will start asking people also would they be willing to enter the fray, if its ok?

[Prince Cobra]

No, not again!

Chancellor von Metternich

[Prince Cobra]

I may be absent for some days (until Sunday).

[Kagemusha]

Ive pm´d certain individual who i would think would add great personality in this game. Il report what he answers when he gets back at me.

[AggonyDuck]

I'm willing to take over the Ottomans, although I have no idea how they are doing at the moment.

[Csargo]

I'm willing to take over the Ottomans, although I have no idea how they are doing at the moment.

Not particularly well imo.

[Kagemusha]

I'm willing to take over the Ottomans, although I have no idea how they are doing at the moment.

Great to see that you decided to join!:2thumbsup: Im sure Franc will give you a briefing once he has time.

[King Kurt]

I'm willing to take over the Ottomans, although I have no idea how they are doing at the moment.

Aggony - good to see you again - what is it with these Finns - they seem to be coming out the woodwork!!!:idea2: - is it because winter is over???:laugh4:

[Prince Cobra]

Merhaba, Duck! (one of the few words I know in Turkish; merhaba means "hello")

Indeed the Ottomans are a huge challenge especially after the Otto-British war and the recent separatism within the realm.

[Warluster]

I'm still here and definitely want to keep playing. Welcome to AggonyDuck and Kagemusha, and thanks for playing! :balloon2:

[Prince Cobra]

From the Chancellor's Office

Austria is worried by the current situation in France. There is no King in the country and therefore, the country is in a situation of anarchy. This insanity must be stopped immediately. For security reasons, Austria moves its ambassador from Paris to Nancy, close to the French border, and leaves only his assistant in the embassy.

Austria hopes the situation will calm down soon, so that the ambassador can safely return to the capital.

[Franconicus]

So now we have:
England KING KURT
Netherlands WARLUSTER
France KAGEMUSHA
Prussia CSARGO
Austria PRINVE COBRA
Russia PRANAS (?)
Egypt PEASANT PHILL
Ottoman AGGONY DUCK

New Deadline: 1. April

I think we won two very promising players!

[Prince Cobra]

So now we have:
England KING KURT
Netherlands WARLUSTER
France KAGEMUSHA
Prussia CSARGO
Austria PRINVE COBRA
Russia PRANAS (?)
Egypt PEASANT PHILL
Ottoman AGGONY DUCK

New Deadline: 1. April

I think we won two very promising players!

Hey Franc,

I am quite confused. We have a rebellion in France therefore nothing is stable there; we also have a rebellion in Istanbul, it's the same. Maybe you should write a short chapter about the events until November (the Conference in Munich is just over; the French King has just fled; the rebellion in the Ottoman Empire has just started). In other words, half a chapter.

[AggonyDuck]

Franc, I'm going to need more information, like financial status, the size of my realm, the current army size and deployment.

[AggonyDuck]

The new Sultan of the Ottoman Empire recognises the independence of the Sultanate of Egypt and hopes that cordial relations and trade agreements can be established forthwith. A new era of Muslim brotherhood and prosperity needs to begin, because without internal stability it is impossible to modernise of education, trade, production, finance and military. Without reforms it is only a matter of time before we all become Western puppets. We need to look inwards, cease our failed attempts of spreading Islam through violence and work together to stop the stagnation of our Faith. Thus we would hope that the Sultan of Egypt recognises us, Suleiman III, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as the Khalifah. The Levantine pretender neither has the right nor the wisdom to guide the faithful through these trying times to come.

Suleiman III, Khalifah and Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.

[AggonyDuck]

To the former military governor of the Levant

We will start by stating that the policies and decisions of my predecessor were foolish and bordering on insane. He managed through stupid alliances and needless wars in Europe to throw our great Empire into turmoil and ruin. This is why he is now dead. We fully understand your position. Like you, we rebelled against an incompetent and worthless ruler, who acted in a manner unworthy of a Caliph. However we urge you to reconsider your decision of seceding from the Ottoman Empire and ask you to withdraw your rival claim on the title of Caliph. The faithful have suffered a multitude of reverses as of late and we cannot afford further divisiveness to weaken the Ummah. We need to be united and stand together as a community if we are to stop Western influence in the region. Even now the Christian monarchs are looking at intervening in the Levant due to your ill-advised actions against churches and this intervention is unacceptable. We present to you an ultimatum with these effects:

1. Rejoin the Ottoman Empire.
2. Renounce your claims on the Caliphate
3. Renew your vow of loyalty to me, the Commander of the Faithful.
4. In return you will be re-institated as the Military Governor of the Levant.

If you do not agree with these demands, we will personally see to it that your pretender Caliphate will not survive the year. We hope that you do not make the mistake of my predecessor in fighting a needless war that will only serve to weaken all of the Ummah.

Suleiman III, Khalifah and Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.

[Franconicus]

Hey Franc,

I am quite confused. We have a rebellion in France therefore nothing is stable there; we also have a rebellion in Istanbul, it's the same. Maybe you should write a short chapter about the events until November (the Conference in Munich is just over; the French King has just fled; the rebellion in the Ottoman Empire has just started). In other words, half a chapter.

There is not much right now. News from France are rare and uncertain. The mob seems to rule the French capitol. There mut have been some murders. Currently parliament seems to negotiate with a Burbon aristcrat named Louis-Phillipe. There is hardly any news from the rest of the country.
From Turkey, news are less. The sultan was killed by a revolt of his guard and seems to be replaced by someone who calls himself Suleiman III, Khalifah and Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.
The old French King preferred fleeing.

That is all.

Oh, one thing: Newspaper reports about the conference of Munich are very bad. Only partying but no decisions trhat could solve the urgend problems.
But now the papers are filled with horror stories from France. Many speculate that a new wave of revolution could roll over Europe. So better be aware.

AD, I try to send you the numbers.

[Franconicus]

NEWS FLASH:

Louis-Phillipe agreed on a constitution, which gives human rights and much influence to the parliament. In fact it seems to be the most liberal constitution by far. Parliament accepted L-P as the new King of France. Maybe this ends the rebellion at France - but it may cause more trouble elsewhere!

[Prince Cobra]

Austria is sceptic to the liberal course of Louis Philip. This will create many problems and one day the King may understand it. Unfortunately, the flight of Charles X allowed this slight loss for the French monarchy. Yet, Austria supports the King himself, not the form of the government. It is the King that makes the government and Parliaments come and go just like the moods of the revolutioneers. Austria was also utterly disappointed by the course of Charles X and his inability to keep the control on his country. Austria hopes King Louis Philip will manage to cope with the situation and the republican insanity. It was only the trust in the abilities of the Bourbon prince that allowed the Kaiser's government to accept some minor concessions. Otherwise, the Austrian position stays unchanged and will keep the revolution away from its neighbourhood.



Chancellor von Metternich

[Kagemusha]

As the new King i thank Austria for supporting the French Monarchy. The situation at France is still far from stable and i would like for all our neighbours to wait for our new cabinet to be established and Constituation to be finished. What i can promise now that the happened turn in France is towards stability and it should not have ill effects on our neighbours.

Louis-Philippe I, Royaume des Français

[Kagemusha]

First public speech of the New King of the French:

Citizens of France!

As your new Monarch of our parliamentary Monarchy i would like to tell you our policies from now on and ask for all of you Frenchmen to help me with your best abilities for us to reach our common goals.

The French constititution will be renewed. King will be the ruler of state, but he cannot rule without the council of French parliament. King and his council will decide on foreign policies of our souvereign, but domestic policies and budget will be decided together with the Parliament.

All the current diplomatic treaties are to be respected.

In the case Monarch decides to abdicate in middle of his term, Parliament will choose the successor, unless there is concensus between the Monarch and Parliament about succession of the throne.

Any Man has right to run for parliament if he is French citizen.

A govermental college will be founded where any man can take tests and if he qualifies he can be appointed to a office in local or national government.

Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen will be included to our new constitution, so every man will have basic rights and all men are equal in the eys of law. Here are the articles included in constitution about civil rights:

Article I - Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions can be founded only on the common utility.

Article II - The goal of any political association is the conservation of the natural and imprescriptible [i.e., inviolable] rights of man. These rights are liberty, property, safety and resistance against oppression.

Article III - The principle of any sovereignty resides essentially in the Nation. No body, no individual can exert authority which does not emanate expressly from it.

Article IV - Liberty consists of doing anything which does not harm others: thus, the exercise of the natural rights of each man has only those borders which assure other members of the society the enjoyment of these same rights. These borders can be determined only by the law.

Article V - The law has the right to ward [i.e., forbid] only actions [which are] harmful to the society. Any thing which is not warded [i.e., forbidden] by the law cannot be impeded, and no one can be constrained to do what it [i.e., the law] does not order.

Article VI - The law is the expression of the general will. All the citizens have the right of contributing personally or through their representatives to its formation. It must be the same for all, either that it protects, or that it punishes. All the citizens, being equal in its eyes, are equally admissible to all public dignities, places and employments, according to their capacity and without distinction other than that of their virtues and of their talents.

Article VII - No man can be accused, arrested nor detained but in the cases determined by the law, and according to the forms which it has prescribed. Those who solicit, dispatch, carry out or cause to be carried out arbitrary orders, must be punished; but any citizen called [i.e., summoned] or seized under the terms of the law must obey at the moment; he renders himself culpable by resistance.

Article VIII - The law should establish only strictly and evidently necessary penalties, and no one can be punished but under a law established and promulgated before the offense and [which is] legally applied.

Article IX - Any man being presumed innocent until he is declared culpable, if it is judged indispensible to arrest him, any rigor [i.e., action] which would not be necessary for the securing of his person must be severely reprimanded by the law.

Article X - No one may be questioned about his opinions, [and the] same [for] religious [opinions], provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law.

Article XI - The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, save [if it is necessary] to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law.

Article XII - The guarantee of the rights of man and of the citizen necessitates a public force [i.e., a police force]: this force is thus instituted for the advantage of all and not for the particular utility of those to whom it is confided.

Article XIII - For the maintenance of the public force and for the expenditures of administration, a common contribution is indispensable; it must be equally distributed between all the citizens, by reason of their faculties [i.e., ability to pay].

Article XIV - Each citizen has the right of noting, by himself or through his representatives, the necessity of the public contribution, of free consent, of following the employment [of the contributions], and of determining the quotient [i.e., the share], the assessment, the recovering [i.e., the collecting] and the duration.

Article XV - The society has the right of requesting [an] account[ing] from any public agent of its [i.e., the society's] administration.

Article XVI - Any society in which the guarantee of rights is not assured, nor the separation of powers determined, has not a bit of Constitution.

Article XVII - Property being an inviolable and sacred right, no one can be deprived of private usage, if it is not when the public necessity, legally noted, evidently requires it, and under the condition of a just and prior indemnity [i.e., compensation].

We shall have Freedom of Religion. So any man can practice their religion without purge from government or other citizens protected by our constitution.

Slavery shall be abolished in Continental France as well in any colonies that could be included to our Souvereign.

National conscription shall take place. A mandatory military service of 2 years will take place for every male in the year they are turning 19 years. First year is for military training and second year they are in readiness to defend France. During their second year of service they are also available for any non military use which government sees fit for them, like major building projects. After two years of service they will move to reserve and be called for duty if needed.

A military academy will be founded, where the most talented of their age class will be educated as officers in regular or reserve duty.

The current military will be abolished except Officer core deeemed fit for our new army and every man that decides to stay in France and become a citizen will gain a grant of land from government, from which they can support themselves and their families. Government will also give them a start stipend, so they can purchase equipment, seed and animals to start farming. The same land grant and starting stipend is available for Napoleons veterans whom many have stranded from society.

The goverment will confiscate all the uncultivated or otherwise unused land and via landreform it will be distributed to veterans and unemployed. As sign of equal wish to join the hardships. The King will release half of the royal lands for the reform.

The government will release Governmental bonds so any patriotic Frenchmen can purchase those in support of their government. Said bonds will be payed back in time of five years after the worse is gone. The King will buy the said state bonds with half of his personal assets as sign of solidarity.

The Government will repair our countrys´s great harbours and rebuild La Rochelle.

With these basic reforms the government promises to the people that France shall rise from the ashes. Once we rise to our knees from our backs, we will continue so that we can rise to our feet from our knees and proudly watch around us as our Nation will start to flourish.

As a sign of equality we will disband the use of the flag our predecessors used and our new flag Tricolor shall wave as proof that all men are equal!



Louis-Philippe I, King of the French

[AggonyDuck]

Seeing as the British Government has been unable to provide us with the details of the signed treaty in due time we have no alternative than to proclaim the treaty to be invalid. We cannot agree with something that we do not know the specifics of. However seeing as the Greeks have already been promised a greater degree of freedom, we will continue to oversee the process of Grecian independence and will gladly accept the guidance of the Concert on the matter, both in regards to the formation of the constitution and the choice of sovereign.

Suleiman III, Khalifah and Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

[Kagemusha]

The New Cabinet of France

Prime Minister : Adolphe Thiers

Minister of interior: Marthe Camille Bachasson, Count of Montalivet

Minister of foreign affairs: Anne Pierre Adrien, duc de Montmorency-Laval

Minister of Economics: Casimir Pierre Perier

Minister of War: Étienne Maurice Gérard

Minister of Public Instruction: François Guizot


Louis-Philippe I, Royaume des Français

[Kagemusha]

When was the dedline again? I would need some answers from my cabinet,Britain and Austria before i can give out my final decisions,

[Csargo]

Deadline is April 1st. I need to put my orders together.

[Kagemusha]

So tomorrow? I still have not got answers from Britain and my own cabinet for several issues. I hope you can understand i have quite many issues i need to address in those orders.

[Peasant Phill]

I'm sorry, I won't be able to PM my orders on time.
I'll have them ready by tomorrow.

[Franconicus]

I hoped you all had a nice and relaxing holiday!
I am still waiting for the decisions of all but Austria!

[Prince Cobra]

Foolish me. Disregard this useless post.

[Kagemusha]

Im still waiting for Kurt to appear. Sorry for keeping you waiting.:bow:

[Prince Cobra]

From His Imperial Majesty Franz I von Habsburg, Emperor of the Austrian Empire


We, the Austrian Kaiser, Franz I, are disappointed by the uprisings in the Ottoman Empire and in France but We have trust in the governments of those nations to restore the order quickly without foreign assistance.

To Louise-Phillipe. We welcome your accession to the French throne. We second the comment made by our Chancellor, Prince von Metternich, and We are slightly reserved to the liberalism in the constitution. Despite that We believe that you will be able to cope with the crisis in France. You have the full support of the Austrian Empire.

To the new Ottoman Sultan. We hope the new Sultan will successfully cope with the challenges of his reign. We condemn military dictatorship of Levant. We find their actions terrible for the peace process. We will also try to aid the solution of the Greek issue complying with the interests of all the Great Powers and your noble country.

Sincerely,
Kaiser Franz I

[Kagemusha]

From His Imperial Majesty Franz I von Habsburg, Emperor of the Austrian Empire

Maybe the good Metternich could translate the proclamation as the white text is almost impossible to see.

[King Kurt]

Apologies for my non involvement over the last week or so - internet problems plus real life.

First a question - have the Turks reneged on the deal we struck? - a clear answer please - especially as the deal included the waiving of the war debts Turkey owed for their unprovoked attack on me. The offer is fair and equitable - and had been accepted - what say you now

[Prince Cobra]

Apologies for my non involvement over the last week or so - internet problems plus real life.

First a question - have the Turks reneged on the deal we struck? - a clear answer please - especially as the deal included the waiving of the war debts Turkey owed for their unprovoked attack on me. The offer is fair and equitable - and had been accepted - what say you now

Lord Canning,

I personally negotiated the terms between the Ottoman Empire and Great Britain and I feel personally obliged to make some clarifications. The money that the Sultan had to pay were simply 3.5 million talers (which are nothing compared to the whole debt) and like the case of France a more liberal scheme was allowed. I am confused.

I invite the ambassador of Great Britain as a guest in my own private house in Vienna to discuss the issue.

Yours,
Prince von Metternich, Chancellor of Austria

[Warluster]

I hoped you all had a nice and relaxing holiday!
I am still waiting for the decisions of all but Austria!

I'm quite sure I sent in my orders (twice, I editted them). Congratulations on the HOF medal, as well!

[Franconicus]

I'm quite sure I sent in my orders (twice, I editted them). Congratulations on the HOF medal, as well!

So nothing changed due to the new situation at Paris?

Alright, deadline will be on Monday, I mean a very dead line, or this double rewarded game may come to a dead end!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I am pleased to announce my return as the Austrian Kaiser.:book:

[Kagemusha]

So nothing changed due to the new situation at Paris?

Alright, deadline will be on Monday, I mean a very dead line, or this double rewarded game may come to a dead end!

Allright il give my decisions on Sunday whether Kurt appears or not.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Can't wait for the chapter! I missed my Austria so much :clown:.

[AggonyDuck]

Apologies for my non involvement over the last week or so - internet problems plus real life.

First a question - have the Turks reneged on the deal we struck? - a clear answer please - especially as the deal included the waiving of the war debts Turkey owed for their unprovoked attack on me. The offer is fair and equitable - and had been accepted - what say you now

Yes, we have decided to renege on the deal and will pay the war debts to you in payments of 500,000 talers per year for the duration of seven years. We hope you will find it acceptable.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Can't wait!

[Csargo]

Sorry completely forgot about my orders. I'll have them in by the end of the day.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Quickly! I want to read the next chapter before I die :).

[Franconicus]

Kage and Kurt are missing as well as Pranas

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Takes this long to do decisions? :dizzy2:


Going to be 3 months before we get the next chapter up. :dizzy2::laugh4::laugh4:

[King Kurt]

Apologies for the delay - I did send in orders some time ago, but will have to rework due to the treachery of the Turks - I will send to Franc tonight.
KK

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

YAY!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

All orders in now?

[Kagemusha]

Should be.

[Prince Cobra]

Now we wait. Hopefully, we will have the chapter soon.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I have a feeling Fran is going to write a big chapter :yes:!

[Peasant Phill]

A big chapter with some popular discontent I reckon.

[Prince Cobra]

:coffeenews:

[Franconicus]

I've been working day and night and here it is: the latest chapter of the phantastic multiawarded COE serial:

Chapter 12 – June 1827 to May 1828

The Conference of Munich

After the disturbances during the last period with financial and economic crisis and a riot in the French capitol, the leaders of the nations meet at Munich to talk about these dangerous problems. However, it appears as if the nations are not able to discuss these problems together. The French King remains repeating lame promises and his appearance at Bavaria seems to be more flight from the problems at home than the attempt to solve them. Metternich represents himself as the leader and moderator of the concert, but that cannot hide that the concert does not play together. So the results are poor and the papers can only report of parties and affairs.

At least in the back rooms there are some secret diplomatic meetings. These bilateral meeting are driven by England and Austria. Graf Metternich surprises the conference with the news, that the Hannover affair is solved with gain for Austria and her new ally Saxony. Once again Austria demonstrates her leadership in Germany.
The other surprise comes from Lord Canning. While the others discuss the future of Greece, England creates facts and makes a deal with the Sultan, which gives Albion the control of Greece.

The other nations cannot do anything but agree. The King of Sardinia makes a speech which shows that he is willing to support nationalistic elements as long as his reign is safe. The Pope sends a message to the conference and all Catholics, which will surely increase the differences between some monarchs and their Catholic subjects.

Furthermore, Austria and Bavaria decide to cooperate closer and start to build a railroad between Munich and Austria.

But real life happens while the conference is still discussing. At Paris, the rebels are still holding control over the capitol. When people hear that King left the country, the parliament comes together to discuss the future of the nation. One of its first steps is to depose the king. An armed crowed marches to Versailles, where the foreign mercenaries of the king do not see any reason to defend the empty castle. They decommission their arms and disappear.

As soon as the French King receives these news from home, he resigns and flees to Amsterdam.

The other event is the assassination of the Ottoman Sultan. The murderers, already angered about the shameful defeat against England and now shocked about the loss of Greece, saw no alternative to safe the country. They are supported by the church and the military. They install a new sultan who declares immediately that the Greek deal is invalid.

These two incidents change the situation of Europe fundamentally and start a chain reaction.

The situation on the finance markets is getting worse, as nobody believes that France or the Turks will pay their debts at all. Furthermore, the new French revolution has the potential to spread the rebellion all over Europe.

The Dutch King immediately orders his army to cross the border to France and to reinstall order at Paris. His troops gather at the southern provinces. Here, esp. at Brussels, there are first flyers demanding to split off the catholic south.

In the meanwhile, the French parliament negotiates with Louis-Philippe, who accepts a new constitution and is crowned at Notre Dames.
The French constitution gives so many rights to the parliament, that France seems to be a kind of royal republic. Together with Poland, there are already two European countries controlled by a people's parliament, now.

The new revolution at France sets a sign for all European countries and liberals and everywhere nationalists try to use this new ‘winds of change’ for their purposes. At Baden the people occupy the castle of the king and force him to accept a constitution like the French one. At Cologne, the catholic population rises against the Prussian King and demands democratic rights as well as the freedom of their religion. Some regiments join the rebels, while most of the troops stay neutral and wait for an order of their king.

Soon the fire catches the Netherlands. The Dutch King recognizes the new French monarch and orders the troops back. However, rumors propagate among the troops that they are supposed to march against Cologne to fight the Catholics there. Catholic regiments refuses to follow the orders of the commander of the army, crown prince Willem, and soon others join them. The citizens of Brussels raise and demand liberty from the protestant north. The crown prince does not dare a confrontation and moves northwards with his loyal troops. The rebels occupy Brussels and declare the free and catholic republic of Belgium. Luxembourg declares itself independent, too.

While liberal ideas shake the western part of Europe, it is the desire for national self-determination that makes waves in the East. As soon as the Greek learn about the agreement between London and Istanbul, they try to take over control. After the murder of the sultan, the new one calls off the deal and makes the Balkans explode. The Greek rebellion starts at Athens, where the Greek leaders meet to discuss the proposals of the new sultan. The weak and irritated Turkish garrisons are overwhelmed a slaughtered. Greek patriots kill all members of Turkish families, women as well as little children. Only 4,000 of 20,000 escape to the Turkish mainland.

At Crete, the confrontation between Greek rebels and Egyptian soldiers escalates. The Egyptians send more soldiers and manage to cut off several hundred rebels in a monastery. Although surrounded by several thousand Egyptians, the defenders refuse to give in. When the besiegers finally try to assault, the Greek patriots blow themselves up. The explosion also kills or wounds hundreds of Egyptians. After this battle, the Egyptians control again the coast and the main harbors, while the rebels still control the mountains.

Fire catches also the rest of the Balkans: Serbian troops arrest the small Turkish garrison and Belgrade declares itself independent. Croatia and Romania follow. Bulgaria is freed with the help of 2,000 Russian soldiers.

Although the new sultan pays half a million to appease London, the British prime minister orders a punitive expedition. There are no Ottoman ships that try to intercept the command of the Royal Navy. The British battleships begin to bombard the batteries at the Dardanelles Strait. Although the Ottoman has increased the numbers of cannons there, they are taken by surprise. British infantry lands at the shores and assaults the Ottoman positions. The Turkish cannons, among them the biggest cannon of the world, are silenced and destroyed.
After this, the British forces begin to lay sieges on Istanbul. While the Royal Navy cuts off all connections from the sea, British infantry occupies the connections to the mainland and starts to build fortifications. In May, the British begin to bombard the Ottoman capitol from the sea as well as from the ground.

Miscellaneous:

Dutch ships and troops invade Zanzibar and take control over this base. A Dutch governor is installed.

The disposer of Levant rejects the threats of the new Ottoman sultan. During a sermon at Jerusalem, he declares, that he is the Mahdi, sent from Allah to gather all true believers to punish all apostates and to down all nonbelievers. He asks the Moslems all over the world to follow him. The Porte sends an army of 60,000 to threaten the former Ottoman commander.

At Egypt, the administration tries to accelerate the modernization of the country. A kind of mercantilism is performed, with substitution of imports and increasing influence on private enterprises.
The army and navy benefit from French and English trainers.
Social reforms introduce a new judiciary system inspired by the Code Napoleon, free education is offered to at least some of the poor people. This, of course, meets resistance of the upper class and the church.
Egypt begins to send cheap goods to the markets of Northern Africa.
A big part of the Egyptian army is supporting the colonization of Sudan, mainly the mines.
At South Africa, a regiment of the British colonial army stops the advance of the French/Egyptian expedition forces. Both parties begin to negotiate, but as no side has clear orders, none of them wants to attack or to retreat. So both sides improve the positions and waits for orders from their government.

The Dutch citizens of South Africa send a furious protest to the governor of Cape Town. They feel discriminated. They also send a letter to the Dutch king, asking for his support.

The congress of the United State passes a law to dispose the Hudson Bay Company. All the land is now owned by the government and shall be given to American settlers and traders. There will also be a poll where the Canadian provinces can decide whether they want to join the Union. British parties are forbidden and Royalists have to leave the country.
The first ships of the American “Hundred Ships” –program are launched.

Prussia renews the mining deal with the Ottoman sultan. However, due to the heavy losses in the past, the situation on the finance market and the critical development on the Balkans, the Prussian King is not able to find investors.

At Italy, the situation is still quiet, even though it seems that many former rebels return from Spain. Austria increases the strength of her Italian army to 75,000 under General Warman and has no trouble keeping order.

At Vienna, Metternich has to defend his plans to increase military expenses at a moment, when peace with Prussia is assured. Metternich has to increase his deficit and even introduces a small "Navy"-tax. Additional expenses are a half million loan for France.

At France the new King is executing several programs to reinstall order, to secure his reign and to heal the wounds of the country.
First of all there is the new constitution, which forces the King to work in close adjustment with the parliament and to respect the human rights. The King transfers the army into a conscription army and increases the budget of the military accademy.. He also starts initiatives to improve the roads and the education system.
The French minister of finance presents the new budget. Within the budget, there is a 0,5 million loan from Vienna and a 3,8 million loan from Amsterdam. However, the numbers from the Netherlands are not confirmed. France also announces to create a tax free zone with the Netherlands and tells that it is already in negotiating with England to do the same there. The finance market hesitates to support France with fresh money as there is still no statement about the old bills.
Louis-Philippe also starts a land reform to turn unused land into acres.

Russia reduces her army significantly, while Poland begins to build up a national army.

Sardinia increases her army by one third.

All over Europe and the orient, economy has a hard time. This is due to the political turbulences, that certainly disturb trade and production, but also to the never-ending budget deficit of some states. While Russia started measures to limit her debt, Prussia is continually spending more money that she has. Therefore, Prussia may be the candidate for the next breakdown.

Numbers:
Austria: income next year is 14mio, this years deficit is 5 mio, total debt is 102 mio
Prussia: income 12 mio, deficit: 2 mio, total debt 155 mio
Ottoman: income 5 mio, 0.5 mio surplus, (total debt 156 mio?)
England: income 13 mio, surplus: 2 mio, total debt 173 mio
France: (Kage, could you send me a summary of your budget? It is rather confusing!)
Netherlands: income 8 mio, surplus: 2.3 mio, total debt 14 mio
Egypt: income 4.5 mio, surplus: 0.3 mio, total debt 38 mio

Please check this!

[Prince Cobra]

Fire catches also the rest of the Balkans: Serbian troops arrest the small Turkish garrison and Belgrade declares itself independent. Croatia and Romania follow.

I think there must be a slight mistake. I doubt a rebellion in Croatia should be in the Ottoman section... For Croatia is part of Austria. Perhaps you mean ROmania and Moldavia? Or Bosnia?

Nice update!

[Peasant Phill]

Wow, that was quick. thanks Franc.

[Kagemusha]

Sent you a pm concerning the budget.Great chapter Franc!:bow:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Jesus Christ almighty. There goes the neighborhood. :dizzy2::dizzy2:


Long live Austria!

[Franconicus]

I think there must be a slight mistake. I doubt a rebellion in Croatia should be in the Ottoman section... For Croatia is part of Austria. Perhaps you mean ROmania and Moldavia? Or Bosnia?

Nice update!

You're right!

[King Kurt]

Lord Canning rises to tremendus applase in the House of Lords. His new nickname, coined by the Times, " Hammer of the East" is heard murred around the chamber. As silence falls his senatorial tones sounds across the Chamber.
" Gentlemen, we have struck a hammer blow at the corrupt heart of the Ottoman Empire. Thus fares all who attempt to decieve the diplomacy of His Majesty's government - those without honour suffer the consequences of their actions. My address tonight is aimed at the Sultan and the people of Istanbul. I give you 2 options - deliver unto His Majesty's forces the Sultan whilst opening your city gates to our beseiging forces or resist and suffer the consequences as those in La Rochelle, Ireland and cities in the Americas have. Our forces are the finest in the world, they have fought for freedom and the rule of law continously since before 1800, you would be wise to invite them into your fair city - the consequences of not are dire indeed.
If the city is turned over to us, we will institute a government of the Turkish people which allows complete religious freedom and free reign over all matters bar its foreign policy. Backed by my forces we will make Istanbul back into the finest trading centre in the world and its people will benefit from its prosperity and will not be held captive to the demands of a pampered ruler who is without honour. As for the rest of the Ottoman lands, we would welcome relations with all areas which would seek to throw off the shackles of the old ways and enter the properious industrial world we are entering. As for the Sultan - he will be transported to a place of safety. So, good people of Istanbul - your choice is clear - we wait for your answer, but we will not wait long"

Lord Canning rusumed his seat to thunderious applase which seemed to raise the very rafters of Westminster itself.

[King Kurt]

I forgot to say - great chapter Franc

[AggonyDuck]

So the British greed knows no boundaries. You invade us for our refusal to allow the Greeks to become a British colony and do not even accept our offer of paying the war debt (while still accepting the payment) in a very due rate given the current economic situation. It is obvious which of the two Empires is the corrupt one. We hope the Concert sees what threat the British pose and stop them while it is still possible to do so.

[Kagemusha]

The French Government wishes peace throughout Europe. It as if the last great war that ravaged the contingent has barely ended and we see more conflict rising. France is worried about the current situation and we are ready to help the parties of these conflicts to find peacefull solution if our assistance is wanted or needed.

[Vladimir]

Europe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3SkhWtvoY8)

:laugh4:

[Franconicus]

Russia will be controlled by me, as long as there is no adequate successor:

Russia sends an agent to Vienna for consultations with Austria. Russia also recognizes the new states of Romania and Serbia and alerts her troops along the border to Romania and Greece.

[Kagemusha]

French Foreign Minister would advice to be cautious about recognicing new National republics as it is clearly against the concert.

[Franconicus]

Isn't it against the Concert to buy Greek and then, if the deal did not work, to attack Istanbul?

[Kagemusha]

The French stand has been made clear already. We dont think that any of the current conflicts in Europe should continue and we are ready to work diplomatically so we can bring closure to the said conflicts. Still the Concerts role is to maintain the current monarchies of Europe.Not to support new Republics.

[Kagemusha]

Announcement from French financial Ministry,

We would like to correct the false rumours encircling Europe about our will to pay our debts. It has been made clear to several bankers and investors already last year that France aims to use annually the minimum of one fifth of her budget in order to settle old debts. This information has been openly available, so we would like to put an end to the circulating rumours that have no base in reality.

Minister of Economics, Casimir Pierre Perier

[Centurion1]

I'll take Russia if no one else claims icread this game slot read prince cobras ad

[Subotan]

Joining the reserves.

[Peasant Phill]

Franc will first have to OK it. Also this game is rather slow moving (mostly due to us players), just so you know what you're getting into.

[Centurion1]

yeah i know i love rp hostorical games and if anything may get a little too into it. long turns are perfect.

[Vladimir]

That's assuming I'm not already the Czar and you're the pretender. :evil:

[Centurion1]

^ ah i feel some catch up on reading is necessary.......

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Russia and Sardinia are the two available ones last time I checked.



Sub, you don't have to be reserve. You can ask,say, Aggony Duck (Ottoman Empire) or King Kurt (England) for example if you can be a famous general/politician of theirs. :yes:

[Franconicus]

If you all agree, the three candidates can join:

Vladimir as Emperor of Russia and King of Poland
Centurion1 as Polish Parliament
Sabuton as Kanzler of Prussia

I hopethe new players have lots of new ideas.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

If you all agree, the three candidates can join:

Vladimir as Emperor of Russia and King of Poland
Centurion1 as Polish Parliament
Sabuton as Kanzler of Prussia

I hopethe new players have lots of new ideas.




I approve of this, Dear Franconicus!

[Kagemusha]

More the crowd, better the party.Wellcome gentlemen!:bow:

[Vladimir]

It will be fun! This is an interesting interactive.

:russia:

[Peasant Phill]

Aaarg even more post to read over, PM's to post and .Orgahs to perfectly manipulate to... I've said to much. :embarassed:

Welcome aboard.

[Master Magic Mage]

At the advice of Warman, i'll like to apply for Sardinia-Piedmont please.

[Centurion1]

so im vladimir's like aide sort of? or is the polish parliament like a vassal state.

[Vladimir]

Vassal probably isn't the right word. Poland governs itself and is more of a protectorate. Or at least that's my impression. I think of it like the Poland-Lithuania empire except Russia is the senior partner.

[Peasant Phill]

Besides, i also started as a vassal. You can play just as well and if you must become independent, then just wait for the opportunity.

[King Kurt]

A belated welcome to our new players

[Centurion1]

The Polish Parliament would like to greet its fellow nation states and begs their patience as they try to navigate the game of thrones.

[Subotan]

Vassal probably isn't the right word. Poland governs itself and is more of a protectorate. Or at least that's my impression. I think of it like the Poland-Lithuania empire except Russia is the senior partner.
Is that something that occurred in game, or is the status quo at the beginning of the game?

[Centurion1]

i believe it happened ingame

[Vladimir]

i believe it happened ingame

Correct. Technically it's Russia's main objective in the game. It seems aqward to have a player in charge now.

[Franconicus]

Help! My mailbox is exploding! Give me a couple of days to reply!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Take your time Fran!

[Vladimir]

Cobra. I'm looking at you :stare:

:clown:

[Centurion1]

take your time franc.

[Prince Cobra]

Cobra. I'm looking at you :stare:

:clown:

For fifteen years I've been on the titles of the newspapers. I tend to like it but well, sometimes there is too much noise around these pieces of paper. Such a waste.

Well, I may return soon.

[Vladimir]

As Czar of Russia and Protector of All Orthodox Christians, I am deeply concerned by recent events on the Greek peninsula. Therefore, I am sending an expeditionary force to render humanitarian assistance and provide security to the Greek people. The present calamities are unacceptable and a peaceful solution much be reached soon.

Nicholas I
Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russians
King of Poland; Grand Duke of Finland

[Sorry, Franc. Sending a PM.]

[Centurion1]

The Catholic Peoples and Parliament of Poland would like to say that while adamant in their defense of their Great Mother Russia they will be sitting back to properly gauge the situation in Greece before committing her brave sons to die for it's people.

They would also like to point out to our friends the Russians that they are in fact not our king unless our entire relationship is completely contrary to what was understood by the parliament.

[Vladimir]

The Polish parliament is best to remember their pledge to abide by all laws passed by their king, Nicholas I.

The Czar intends to honor his pledge to protect Polish rights and does not not ask her to commit troops to this effort. If she chooses to stand by as others suffer than so be it. The Czar is known for his support of the serfs and peasants under his protection. Perhaps one day the Polish parliament will be known for such as well.


V

[Centurion1]

ThePolish Parliament will not commit its brave soldiers to die for nothing if for the very least they must know what exactly the conflict really is. If the Czar would be so kind as to present us with an argument as to why we should commit troops to the Greek conflict we would welcome such.

As you may know a new party has been elected to parliament and all pledges made by former parliaments will have to be reviewed before they are accepted by the new order.

We would also request that the Czar not push Orthodox Christianity as the state religion in Poland.

Representative Parliament of Poland.

Edit: Im moving to a darker green so it doesnt hurt everyones eyes

[Vladimir]

The Czar has the utmost respect for the brave sons of Poland. This is a mission of mercy, not war. If the new parliament chooses to aid their sovereign they will demonstrate to the concert that our two peoples stand together for mutual defense and for the defenseless.

Since the parliament is so concerned about ecclesiastical issues, perhaps they would attend a service in Moscow as personal guests of the Czar.


V

[Prince Cobra]

Until the end of the day Prince von Metternich will make a public announcement on the new situation.

[Kagemusha]

Until the end of the day Prince von Metternich will make a public announcement on the new situation.

French foreign ministry would be gratefull if Austrian Chancellor wouldnt use cypher in his announcements.It is expensive to use lemons in order to find out what he is writing in our current economical situation.

[Vladimir]

French foreign ministry would be gratefull if Austrian Chancellor wouldnt use cypher in his announcements.It is expensive to use lemons in order to find out what he is writing in our current economical situation.

As an act of diplomatic good will, Russian officers asisting in the Greek humaniarian and security efforts will purchas a variety of citris fruits for the new French government.

:laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

The Austrian Kaiser would like to send his Russian and French friends fine Austrian barley + food for the Greek aid in exchange for fancy French wine and warm Russian coats for the winter.


:laugh:

[Vladimir]

The Austrian Kaiser would like to send his Russian and French friends fine Austrian barley + food for the Greek aid in exchange for fancy French wine and warm Russian coats for the winter.


:laugh:

Franc: I'd like to treat this as an in-character/game action if it's okay with you and Warman.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Franc: I'd like to treat this as an in-character/game action if it's okay with you and Warman.

Fine with me :yes:.

[Vladimir]

The Czar is delighted by the Kaiser’s offer of support. He will send a trade caravan escorted by an elite unit of Cossack equestrians.


V

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Interesting Video I got.



Gott erhalte Franz, den Kaiser!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBq3klpvKFw

[Vladimir]

You should play that song every time the Kaiser posts a message. :smile:

[Prince Cobra]

Declaration from the Chancellor's Office of the Austrian Empire

The Austrian Empire sincerely hopes a compromise between the Ottoman Empire and Great Britain will be achieved. Lord Canning should reconsider his plans, for the present situation brings only instability to Europe. I hope the activity of the British prime minister will not be limited only to risky adventures but that he will agree to give his share to the European peace. So far the Austrian ambassador in London reports only shut doors and strange speeches of Lord Canning. At the same time, the Russian delegation has assured their Austrian friends that Russia will also do its best for the restoration of the peace on the Balkans.

[Prince Cobra]

On a different matter, I would recommend spending less money for wine and coats but rather take care of the poor souls who inhabit the growing cities or some starving children. I even risked a family scandal by refusing to buy a new coat for my wife, meine Liebe Antonie von Leykam. ~;)

[Vladimir]

Brushing up on my Victorian history.

Almost 30 hours since the last post. Everyone must be furiously plotting. :grin:

[Peasant Phill]

Yes ... yes we are. Now go back to your fun, nothing is going to happen to you or your nation. Nothing at all. :evilgrin:

[Kagemusha]

Not me as im somewhat stuck without necessary information to negotiate political deals, nor plan my budget.

[Prince Cobra]

Gah! Metternich is stuck in problems explaining his wife Antonie the necessity of being more careful with money. And yes, waiting for info as well.

P.S. And yes, some real life issues.

[Vladimir]

Not me as im somewhat stuck without necessary information to negotiate political deals, nor plan my budget.

You're controlling France, right? Since when has that ever stopped the French? :laugh4:

(or any nation, really)

Remember: Russia is ALWAYS willing to negotiate. :disguise:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Austrian Kaiser has been bored lately. :clown:

[Vladimir]

I'm thinking of making a map of the game using EU 2. Does anyone have enough detailed information for me to build a providence-based map?

[Kagemusha]

I'm thinking of making a map of the game using EU 2. Does anyone have enough detailed information for me to build a providence-based map?

If you could.That would take large amount of work away from me.Im sure Stephen...erm Prince Cobra could help you with the info.

[AggonyDuck]

Nope, not plotting. Just getting horribly drunk before those nasty Brits steal all my lovely wine.~:cheers:

[Franconicus]

British Prime Minister George Canning died last night.
Accept my sympathies!

[Prince Cobra]

British Prime Minister George Canning died last night.
Accept my sympathies!

I feel a great grief for this noble gentleman. We were indeed opponents in life but when facing the eternity such conflicts are meaningless. The Austrian ambassador in London will react accordingly and send the British the condolensces of the Austrian Kaiser and his Chancellor.

Chancellor von Metternich

[Vladimir]

The Czar sends his condolences and hopes this tragedy marks the beginning of a more peaceful era in Europe.


V

[Kagemusha]

Our most sincere condolences to Britain for the loss of such great man.

Louis-Philippe I, Royaume des Français

OOC: I really do hope that this doesnt mean KK is withdrawing from the game.

[Vladimir]

OOC: I really do hope that this doesnt mean KK is withdrawing from the game.

Hopefully not: George Canning (11 April 1770 – 8 August 1827) was a British statesman and politician who served as Foreign Secretary and briefly Prime Minister.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Canning

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I be in the CoE IH since the start of it along with King Kurt, I highly doubt he going to leave now :clown:.





The Austrian Kaiser is sadden by the news of Canning's death. I second the statement of my Chancellor. We may not always have agreed, but he was adore by his nation and we hope he is in peace now.


Austrian Kaiser Franz I

[Vladimir]

I know it's Friday night for most of you but I'd like to know who's interested in an EU2 generated map of the game. I'd need to know what provinces each nation controls that doesn't correspond with history.

Warman: I also need a reply to my PMs when you have time. I'd like to give Franc as much time as possible.

Thanks.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Fine with me! I ask Cobra to make sure, since my memory is bad about any non-historical provinces we might have.

[Vladimir]

Fine with me! I ask Cobra to make sure, since my memory is bad about any non-historical provinces we might have.

Cool. I was crazy to sell my original EU II disk.

[Centurion1]

id like a map.

The polish parliament is saddened to hear about the death of a good man

Franc: Uh have you seen my pm??????

[Franconicus]

At the advice of Warman, i'll like to apply for Sardinia-Piedmont please.
Your welcome!


Maybe we can put the deadline on May 9th!

[Kagemusha]

9th sounds fine to me.:bow:

[King Kurt]

Rumours of my death have been greatly exagerated - i will let you know soon who I will be - probably Lord melbourne - famed for his "influence" on the young Victoria!!

[Vladimir]

Rumours of my death have been greatly exagerated - i will let you know soon who I will be - probably Lord melbourne - famed for his "influence" on the young Victoria!!

Ewww. I've seen too many pictures of her to think this "influence" could ever be pleasurable.

9th is good for me. Let's hope my country doesn't fall apart. :laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Ewww. I've seen too many pictures of her to think this "influence" could ever be pleasurable.

9th is good for me. Let's hope my country doesn't fall apart. :laugh4:

Gott Erhalte Franz den Kaiser! I mean, God Save the Tzar to :clown:! YAY!

[Franconicus]

The foreign minister of the United States of America sends his sympathy to the peoples of the United Kindom, which suffered under the rule of Canning. We hope his successor will do a beter job!

[Centurion1]

The Polish People wish the sovereign states of Europe to know that they stand with their King and lord of Russia and will help their brethern in Greece fix their shattered nation

[Kagemusha]

Speech of the King of French in Parliament after his first year as King,

Citizens of France! I am glad to see that our new government has taken successful steps in order for both the Kingdom of France and its citizens to prevail from the troubled times we live in.

Our new government has seized the initiative and while we are severely lacking funds. Major new programs have started and some already concluded successfully.A major land reform has been successfully concluded. Wast tracks of lands that laid waste after the great wars are now in use. Veterans of our glorius armies and citizens that had previosly lost their means to support their families have now been given land by the government, which is being put on good use. Our foreign policies have secured us continuos flow of cheap raw materials we didnt have access after we had lost our colonies and trade fleet. Great cities of France that lay in rubble are now being rebuilt, while the severely damaged infrastructure of our Nation is being repaired.

We have a new army. Army made of citzens to protect the citizens of our country. We have moved on from hiring foreign mercenaries and today it is French men that are protecting France.

All these achievements are fruits from the labour of united citizenry. But as your King i will not lie to you or paint you a picture that is different from the truth. The scale of turmoil and devastation we have witnessed is almost beyond comprehension. We need more then 100 million Thalers to repair our country. While our annual budget which is mostly spent on annual upkeeps of several institutions to insure public safety and government to function is hardly enough to even start the huge work we have. Because of this as your King i plead to all my fellow French men. Right now if you have any capability small or great.Buy the national bonds released by the government this year. We cant promise you huge profits, but that is not the point of them in any case.The point is to help each other, as who else will help us, if we dont help ourselves? More you buy, sooner our Nation can repair the wounds inflicted to us. I am personally going to use half of my own monetary assets to buy these bonds, so that a fisherman in La Rochelle can continue his trade. So merchant in Marseilles can put food on his familys table. So that the orphans in Toulon wont starve to death shivering in the rain, under the open sky. This is the time to make a stand. This is time to show the world what the French are made off!

Louis-Philippe I, Royaume des Français

[King Kurt]

It appears I was a little zealous in suggesting Melbourne - we will not have the pleasure of his company for a few years yet. After consulting Wiki I have decided to skip the next PM who was only in for a few months and go straight to The Iron Duke himself - gentlemen of the Concert - please welcome Sir Arthur Wellsely, better known as
The Duke of Wellington.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Duke_of_Wellington_2.jpg

[Vladimir]

Franconicus,

Do you prefer summaries of PM discussions or the entire thread? I'm trying to reduce the clutter but would like to know what you prefer.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

It appears I was a little zealous in suggesting Melbourne - we will not have the pleasure of his company for a few years yet. After consulting Wiki I have decided to skip the next PM who was only in for a few months and go straight to The Iron Duke himself - gentlemen of the Concert - please welcome Sir Arthur Wellsely, better known as
The Duke of Wellington.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Duke_of_Wellington_2.jpg




Intersting. The Iron Duke is here.

[Vladimir]

Intersting. The Iron Duke is here.

Let's hope the notorious English weather doesn't cause him to rust away.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

http://www.battleground-club.de/index.html





FYI for all of your Napoleonic fans :). I apply for the Austrian Army :).

[Franconicus]

I would like you to summarize all your decitions and actions. Otherwise it would be too likely that I miss some.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Could May the 10th be better for everyone as a deadline?

[Vladimir]

Could May the 10th be better for everyone as a deadline?

I'd rather we not get into the habit of pushing back deadlines. A hard deadline simulates the passage of in-game time. If there are any RL concerns, please let the other players know so we can help.

Maybe I'm just too eager for the next chapter. :shrug:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I'd rather we not get into the habit of pushing back deadlines. A hard deadline simulates the passage of in-game time. If there are any RL concerns, please let the other players know so we can help.

Maybe I'm just too eager for the next chapter. :shrug:

Well I don't come on the computer on the weekends due to my wrists during the school year, so unless I get my orders in on Friday or have Cobra send them in on Sunday for me, you might not have a choice :clown:.

Besides, one day wait won't kill you. I remerber times when I really got pissed off in. I don't care if people are 1 or 2 days late with the orders, happens to the best of us. But, I use to hate it when people would take up to a week to get them in. Now then, I would get quite angry, and they would do it almost every chapter. It's like, 1 day late, fine, no big deal. But 1 week late almost every chapter? Don't got the time to play, then don't play.


Just felt like telling a story :D

[Vladimir]

No problem; I love stories.

I met a girl named Patience once. That's the closest I've ever come to having patience. Of course I was 11 at the time so....

I'm good with whatever Franc decides. The fate of Europe is on his shoulders yet again. :laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

No problem; I love stories.

I met a girl named Patience once. That's the closest I've ever come to having patience. Of course I was 11 at the time so....

I'm good with whatever Franc decides. The fate of Europe is on his shoulders yet again. :laugh4:



:D


I understand everyone is wanting a good chapter as fast as Fran can get them out. I hate waiting to. I just rather wait 1 extra day for a good chapter then to rush my decisions with my screwed up wrists and have Fran get it out a day earilier and have it be bad, espcally for Austria lol.

[Franconicus]

Who has problems with the 10th?

[Kagemusha]

Warluster has not logged in after 3rd and i need his input in order to make my decisions.

[Vladimir]

Why aren't we handling delays in character? Take it as a diplomatic snub.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

From the Austrian Kaiser:


I am pleased to announce the return of Archduke Charles, my brother, into the Imperial Army.
Long live Osterreich and her allies!

http://z.about.com/f/wiki/e/en/thumb/d/d9/Archduke_Charles_Picture.jpg/300px-Archduke_Charles_Picture.jpg

Austrian Kaiser Franz I

[Prince Cobra]

I am back. ~:)

[Csargo]

Hopefully I'll have orders in by the end of the day. RL has been crazy for me.

[Peasant Phill]

An open letter to all who wants to hear


My fellow heads of state,

Years have past since those turbulent times when the Corsican dragged us all along in his carousel of megalomania and violence. The world stepped reacted and stopped his imperial dreams. To ensure such a thing couldn't happen again, the Concert of Europe was founded.

Years have past but the violence hasn't stopped. Musket, saber and cannon still prance frisky over the stages of the world. In this the Concert seems unable have but the most marginal influence. I've witnessed first hand what the Concert can accomplish. While the meeting of the decade never got past deciding on the agenda, dubious agreements were signed in dark back rooms. If I learned one thing those weeks, it's that the world is a to big and the people in it to conniving to be kept in check by a single lumbering institution. I have a hard time imagining this unwieldy giant, emasculated by its own members, to be able to stop the next ruler with imperial ambitions.

I therefor have have founded the Mediterranean league as a counterweight to any and all Great European nations. I envision it to be the voice of the smaller nations unified to rival any European power. To protect us when we would be powerless to do so alone.

Who will join, who will act before it's to late?

Muhamed Ali
Sultan of Egypt
Protector of Crete
Conductor of the Mediterranean league

[AggonyDuck]

Sorry Franc, but I just don't have the interest to play at the moment. Hence I will drop out.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I am back. ~:)

About time :clown:.


Sorry Franc, but I just don't have the interest to play at the moment. Hence I will drop out.


Sorry to hear that Ducky. Maybe next time.

[Vladimir]

Sorry Franc, but I just don't have the interest to play at the moment. Hence I will drop out.

So...um...is the deal about being annexed by Russia still on? :clown:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

So...um...is the deal about being annexed by Russia still on? :clown:




You annexing the OE :clown:?



FYI all,http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/index.php.

[Franconicus]

Sorry Franc, but I just don't have the interest to play at the moment. Hence I will drop out.

Sad to hear! Anyway, thank you for the good time and good luck!
Maybe we meet again, soon!

So Prussia is now ruled by ME!:skull:

[Vladimir]

Does everyone have their orders in? ~;)

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Does everyone have their orders in? ~;)


Nien. Give my Chancellor Metternich a extra day or so :yes:.

[Prince Cobra]

Nien. Give my Chancellor Metternich a extra day or so :yes:.

Gott erhalte Franz, den Kaiser!

It's done, my master.

[Kagemusha]

Sad to hear! Anyway, thank you for the good time and good luck!
Maybe we meet again, soon!

So Prussia is now ruled by ME!:skull:

Well Csargo might have a different opinion about who rules the Prussia.:holiday:

[Centurion1]

orders just sent..... hope i didnt go overboard.

[Vladimir]

orders just sent..... hope i didnt go overboard.

Yes. Let's hope not. :evil: :russia:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

https://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6034/suizospolotsk.jpg


It's the British!

No......

It is the.....


SWISS!!!!!!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!


Cool picture I found :).

[King Kurt]

The Duke of Wellington wishes to announce that due to the delicate situation in the Ottoman Empire the Straights of the Dardenelles are closed until further notice. Any ship attempting to enter them will be deemed to be hostile.

[Vladimir]

The Czar views any closure of the straights as an act of war. Any disruption to trade or the free movement of goods will be seen as an act of aggression.


V

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

From the Kaiser of Austra:


May I remind the nations we do not need another war in the era. I suggest both nations cool their guns. I also suggest the English should not target friendly Russian ships.


Austrian Kaiser Franz I

[Vladimir]

[OOC: Finished the Russia map. The saved file isn't intended to be playable but should give everyone a decent idea of what territory they control. Franc will need to tweak the rough draft. I should have the draft completed by this weekend. Franc, if you don't have the game and need screenshots, please let me know. It's 10 USD from Gamersgate. Hopefully we can use this as the game map. I'll include map modding instructions when I release the rough draft.]

[Prince Cobra]

I agree with the Kaiser. War shall be avoided and negotiations shall take place.

I suggest:

1) The British shall immediately pull out of the Straits and sign a cease fire.

2) The Ottoman delegation should pay honour to the dead British and give 0.05 mio talers for building a memorial of the dead British in Malta. The remaining debt of 3mio talers should be paid to Great Britain in acceptable for the Ottoman Empire scheme.

However, I underline that in case there is a conflict between Russia and Great Britain, Austria will blame Great Britain for the conflict and will support Russia in a way it finds most appropriate!

[Vladimir]

It seems like the flurry of action has overwhelmed Metternich's diplomatic courier system.

[Your inbox is full.]

[Peasant Phill]

The Duke of Wellington wishes to announce that due to the delicate situation in the Ottoman Empire the Straights of the Dardenelles are closed until further notice. Any ship attempting to enter them will be deemed to be hostile.

Nice of you to let us know. Not like your captains have shown any restraint in the past so I can understand how you would want to warn innocent fishermen and merchants.

These seems to be the actions of a tyrant.

[Kagemusha]

France demands that the situation in Ottoman Empire and Balkans should be handled peacefully. We are ready to host a conference to settle the issue with negotiations. As much as we respect our good relations with Great Britain. We cant comprehend, why is the British Monarchy trying drive Europe to another war with their stubborn policies over Ottoman Empire. Also France warns Piedmont- Sardinia of engaging in any hostilities against Austria as France will consider that as hostilities towards France.

Gentlemen! Stop this now before it will be too late. With these reckless policies you will drive the entire continent in turmoil. Monsieurs! Give peace a chance!

Louis-Philippe I, Royaume des Français

[Master Magic Mage]

*Taps Watch* Anytime soon, Gentlemen?

[King Kurt]

To clarify - the closure of the straights is to protect my beseigeing forces - no more. If Russia wishes to pass through the straits to move forces to Greece to help the Greeks they may - the liberation of Christian Greece was my main aim.
As for trade - all ships need do is contact my local forces and safe passage will be arranged. The exception is obviously aid to Istanbul.
The Duke of Wellington

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Decisions have been sent. Please tell me everyone got their orders in now :)?


By the way, the 21th or 22nd of May will be my last day on the computer until the 14th or 15th of June is when I return due to my severe wrist tendnitions and I am going to need at least 3 weeks, sighty more (21-22 days) to heal them a bit. My brother will check my PM box while I am gone. So I hope Fran gets the chapter up before I go :clown:.

[Master Magic Mage]

Official Statement from the King of Sardinia-Piedmont

I am truly shocked by the French's most misleading statement, in which the French monarch, if he can be called such, requested that his fellows in Europe 'Give peace a chance' i find myself inclined to state the most obvious contradictory note in this statement. While he claims for peace, he does intentionally fan the flames of war, by warning my person of a ban of hostilities against my good friend the Austrian Kaiser! I have no intention of doing such a foolish and brash act, infact i do believe my kingdom has seen no hostilities for many years now! Either the king is a bass fool, or he is attempting to mask his wish of seizing my kingdom to further his interests, which, as i see my duty to note, is openly defying the Concert. I call for my counterpart to remove this slight against my name, and to never restore it again!

Signed,
Charles Felix, King of Sardinia-Piedmont

[Prince Cobra]

Official Statement from the King of Sardinia-Piedmont

I am truly shocked by the French's most misleading statement, in which the French monarch, if he can be called such, requested that his fellows in Europe 'Give peace a chance' i find myself inclined to state the most obvious contradictory note in this statement. While he claims for peace, he does intentionally fan the flames of war, by warning my person of a ban of hostilities against my good friend the Austrian Kaiser! I have no intention of doing such a foolish and brash act, infact i do believe my kingdom has seen no hostilities for many years now! Either the king is a bass fool, or he is attempting to mask his wish of seizing my kingdom to further his interests, which, as i see my duty to note, is openly defying the Concert. I call for my counterpart to remove this slight against my name, and to never restore it again!

Signed,
Charles Albert, King of Sardinia-Piedmont

Austria is most flattered to see two states so deeply concerned about its security. Since I see you both have good intentions, there must be some kind of misunderstanding. I see the explanation in the speeches of the Sardinian ambassador during the meeting in Bavaria, who seemed to have failed to seek the agreement of his monarch. I thank to France for the support and I am glad that the Sardinian King distanced himself from the announcement of his representative. I hope this sorts out this unfortunate misunderstanding!

Klemens von Metternich, Chancellor of Austria

[Master Magic Mage]

(Announcement from Sardinia? I can't find one, except the one for nationalism.)

[Prince Cobra]

(Announcement from Sardinia? I can't find one, except the one for nationalism.)

Yes, it seemed the Sardinian ambassador desired revision of borders. But I am happy that the Sardinian King has distanced from him.

[Kagemusha]

To Sardinia-Piedmont,

We rely on the information we receive. It has been brought to us that Sardinia has suggested things that some might consider aggressive towards Austria and France is simply securing the peace near our borders, by making clear where we stand in these issues. Sardinia should respect our open policies as it shows we dont have any hidden agendas towards your domain.

French Ambassador in Piedmont

[Master Magic Mage]

The View of our Government is not the view of the Ambassdor to the Bavarian Conference, and i can assure you he has been replaced for his foolish actions. We had no wish to expand our borders, unless it is thrust upon us, or diccused.

[Franconicus]

Gentlemen,

looking at the incoming orders, I see that there are still things missing.

There are no orders from England and Sardinia and France. France did send me something, but, Kage, could you summarize it?

Thanx! :bow:

[Master Magic Mage]

Oh, i thought i needed Decisions. Free-for-all Orders then?

[Vladimir]

No problem. Russia is always excited and looking to help! Of course, I may change my mind depending on how the chapter turns out. :laugh4:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

You can request info from Fran, but we don't get decisions anymore. We write them ourselves :).

Austra can't wait for the chapter.

[Master Magic Mage]

Oh, great. Fran, can i get a basic summary of my suitation before i send my orders?

[Vladimir]

Oh, great. Fran, can i get a basic summary of my suitation before i send my orders?

You will be embraced by the loving arms of Mother Russia. :russia:

[Franconicus]

Oh, i thought i needed Decisions. Free-for-all Orders then?

Yes, completely free.
Maybe you should have an eye on your budget, military and the relation to the nationalists and liberals. What will be your style of reign - absolut or constitutional?

[Master Magic Mage]

Constitutional, using the Statuto Albertino, thought still very Conservative.

[Centurion1]

Franc werfe my orders acceptable

[Vladimir]

Hi there. I hope everyone had a good weekend. On Saturday, China agreed to become a vassal of Russia and there are now 100,000 Chinese and Russian troops marching west. So... :grin:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hi there. I hope everyone had a good weekend. On Saturday, China agreed to become a vassal of Russia and there are now 100,000 Chinese and Russian troops marching west. So... :grin:

Was it because of that site I sent you :grin:?


Just love my Russian ally :clown:

[King Kurt]

Subject to clarifying a few points with Franc, my orders are in - sorry about the delay

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Subject to clarifying a few points with Franc, my orders are in - sorry about the delay

Can't wait for the chapter :yes:!

[Vladimir]

Can't wait for the chapter :yes:!

I can. Do you know how long it takes to march 100,000 people across Asia?

[Franconicus]

King Kurt, please clear your mailbox!

[King Kurt]

King Kurt, please clear your mailbox!

All done!! opps fogot my sent items was so full

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Now we wait :yes:.

[Centurion1]

I'm dying here