The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[F.C is the bees knees]

I'd pegged Seamus as mafia (his posting was off to me and he's a logical choice for grunt) and was planning on making my case on him. Any powers come with your role Seamus?



"Donney" can hardly be guilty.



Too bad you missed him last night?

Vote:FC is the bees knees

I think the defense of "lol I don't what I'm doing" is scummy in a "if I was mafia I would be worried about your accusation but since I typed lol I'm obviously not and therefore innocent" way. WE says he acts different than he does at twc as well. Some of the other things he says (like quoted above) seem to fit a "but I wouldn't say this if I was mafia!" pattern. On the whole it reminds me of a playstyle I've seen mafia use before.

what chance does that give me?
White_eyes doesn't know how i play he has only played one game with me and started moaning on day 1 because people was voting him.

[ULC]

And neither do I

FoS: Pizzaguy

For that nifty PM you sent me

Also, you have a bit of a lyrical prose style ATPG - I've seen to much of your writing not to notice it.

Grr...keep end up editing my own post. Sasaki, I am not familiar with the "Donney" role, explain please.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Sasaki

I will say right now, I contacted no one regarding the Davey thing. I wanted to wait until morning phase, and I wanted to also discuss with Taka the proper method of finding Davey; I would simply have posted in the thread "Someone is looking for Davey, it's not me, but if you want to find him, I can tell you who he is, otherwise you can remain anonymous."

But, I wanted to make sure Taka was OK with that plan, and I didn't want to reveal that someone was looking for Davey during a night phase when it could affect the kills. Gotta read the other replies now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

And neither do I

FoS: Pizzaguy

For that nifty PM you sent me

Also, you have a bit of a lyrical prose style ATPG - I've seen to much of your writing not to notice it.

Grr...keep end up editing my own post. Sasaki, I am not familiar with the "Donney" role, explain please.

It's in the earlier write ups, davey runs over the cat and donney yells at him about it and then calls padraic.

btw, what did pizzaguy pm you?


@Sasaki

I will say right now, I contacted no one regarding the Davey thing.

Well that's a null lead then. Unless taka told someone else.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Taka and I had a PM exchange yesterday which I'd like to reveal, but I can't until Taka comes back and allows me to post it. I believe Reenk is admitting to something perhaps he didn't do, which means we need to question him. Otherwise he is Oswald, who killed twice already.

Would you be willing to pressure vote Reenk? And what do you think of Seamus, he obviously has a role; it says he is Donney. Do you think that's a mafia role? I'll vote for Seamus if he is.

Maidred is another single role - another SK most likely.

Not sure as to Donney's status, but since the odds that we would be lynching a protown roles versus a mafia role are 1/3, I'd go with lynching known roles - Seamus and Reenk must both die.

I would ask that they both reveal their role pms and have them claim protown. The real protowns can then come forward and call them LIARS. What do you think? Pressure vote, not massive bandwagon, is the safest route, yes?

That all depends on your alignement status really. To easy for someone to quickly kill the protown roles once it's in the open - 2 possible mafia for what, 2/3rds of our protown? with 4 mafioso left? No...

This is what I said.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Actually, wait a sec. Ares plays over at TWC too, right? Can anybody tell me if he's active as usual over there?

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, he's not. A game he is hosting has been stagnating for days.

[GeneralHankerchief]

All right, let's try somebody else.

Unvote: Ares
Vote: Psychonaut

2 posts, and I know for a fact he's active on other parts of the forum.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Would you be willing to pressure vote Reenk? And what do you think of Seamus, he obviously has a role; it says he is Donney. Do you think that's a mafia role? I'll vote for Seamus if he is.

You indicated before that you've read a lot about the play, is my assumption that donney is a good guy off base?

[Greyblades]

No, he's not. A game he is hosting has been stagnating for days.
It seems to be a trend of his.

Vote: Reenk Roink
Rule 60: Keep your lies consistent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You indicated before that you've read a lot about the play, is my assumption that donney is a good guy off base?

Actually, I never saw the play; all the info I have is based off of whatever I could get off of wikipedia's page for the Lieutenant of Inishmore, plus the data we have in-thread here. Beefy said pevergreen actually wrote the wikipedia article, so, I'd start there. I have no idea if Donney is innocent, but I am leaning that way if the mafia/serial killers are trying to take him out, and someone defended him.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I'd pegged Seamus as mafia (his posting was off to me and he's a logical choice for grunt) and was planning on making my case on him. Any powers come with your role Seamus?

Yes.


Too bad you missed him last night?

Vote:FC is the bees knees

I think the defense of "lol I don't what I'm doing" is scummy in a "if I was mafia I would be worried about your accusation but since I typed lol I'm obviously not and therefore innocent" way. WE says he acts different than he does at twc as well. Some of the other things he says (like quoted above) seem to fit a "but I wouldn't say this if I was mafia!" pattern. On the whole it reminds me of a playstyle I've seen mafia use before.

I'd already been gnawing at him a bit prior to votes opening for today based on WE's comments. Based on me being targeted AND the points you rightly make, I'll second your

Vote: F.C is the bees knees


IC

https://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3812/inishmorereport10683.jpg

Donney walked into the Lucky Star, a white bandage covering his recent wound. He walked purposefully toward the back corner where Mairead sat quietly.

"Rest easy, Mairead," said Donney. "I've come to apoligize."

Mairead relaxed a little, but only a little.

"A few of the others told me you only pinked me as a distraction. I'm after thinking they were right. I should have known that Brendan was only asking questions to set me up. I'd have been dead soon enough if you hadn't tossed a spanner into the works."

Mairead nodded her acknowledgement.

"I'll be damned if I'll shout 'Brilliant' over your choice of how to help me out though. You only pinked me sure enough, but it'll be stinging and sore for weeks to come." Donney paused, the faintest of grins slipping onto his face, "but I do thank you."

Donney turned to face the other patrons.

"I know Paddy was a bad one," he said. "None here knows that better. Still, he was my son and I did love him -- nearly as much as I feared him. It's only I and the bean sidhe will keen over him, and that's true enough. But it's these trice-damned 'Troubles' that'll take us ALL to an early grave if we don't end the efforts of both those cursed Saxons AND those of our own who glory in killing. They're hiding in plain sight, so if one of you notices something that doesn't fit, sing out and we'll all have a chance to work on finding them...before they 'find' us."

Donney walked to the bar, downed the slow-poured Guinness the barman'd automatically drawn for him when he entered in one slow pull, and then turned and walked off into the afternoon sun.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd be willing to take my vote off of Reenk, but I'd like to know what he is up to. If this is in-character roleplaying, I'd understand, but he's still doing self-incriminating stuff. If he's forced to do so by his role, perhaps he could favor us with a thumbs up? Otherwise, he's a better lynch than Seamus, who is a confirmed role that if we decided were guilty somehow we could lynch later. Plus it seems he's got a defender who can simply defend again at night.

Why do you think Reenk is not a good lynch, Sasaki? I'm aware it's his typical style, but it's the same even if he were mafia, so it's not a defense. I'm just looking to hear your reasoning.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wait a second... YLC, why did you just assume Mairead is a serial killer? He's obviously a doctor or something from the writeup if he saved Seamus. :inquisitive:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wait, I thought Mairead shot Seamus in the arm.

[A Very Super Market]

My role states that I don't need to kill Maireed.

Maybe a hint...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Wait, I thought Mairead shot Seamus in the arm.

I initially thought the same, pever' corrected me. Yes, she shot me, but to prevent my death, not cause it.

[ULC]

Wait a second... YLC, why did you just assume Mairead is a serial killer? He's obviously a doctor or something from the writeup if he saved Seamus. :inquisitive:

I blame myself for skimming the write up, and honestly thinking it was Mairead who tried to kill Donney - :shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

That would make her a doctor type role. Definitely no serial killer. For now, we have to peg Seamus as Donney and Mairead as our anonymous doctor/defender who could also be innocent.

[GeneralHankerchief]

We really need TinCow here to keep track of who's who. So far all I can glean is that Oswald is a bad guy, Seamus is Donney (exact specifics unknown), and Mairead can protect people.

Although Seamus refusing to take Sasaki's bait is a point in his favor. I think a mafioso/neutral role would be more apt to play up his role's pro-town aspects.

[ULC]

Sorry, but I am suspicious of any roles at this point - I'll wait for the night phase to see what happens.

Someone have a tally?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oswald appears to be one of the mafioso, and Brendan appears to be the other. From the two murder attempts per night, I think we have our two mafioso who are killing. Brendan and Oswald appear to be henchmen.

Post 219:

3 Mafia (IRA)
3 Mafia (English)
3 Pro Town
2 other roles.

No suicide roles.

The 2 other roles could be serial killers or neutrals which involve the cat side story. One I believe could be a serial killer due to Taka's warning. Taka could have been the other one, but he didn't have a named role. Since there are two kills per night, if we do have a serial killer, he's not murdering. Taka suggested that this killer would start murdering after he (Taka) died, and plenty. I would like Taka to elaborate on what he suggested if he can, whenever he gets in.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

So far, we've got (deceased in bold):

Donney (Seamus) -- role specifics not published

Mairead (unknown) -- probable doctor, other particulars unknown

Padraic (AVSM) -- serial killer

Brendan (unknown) -- lead IRA wetworker

Oswald (unknown) -- killer (presumably lead English wetworker)

Davey (unknown) -- killed Paddy's cat in prequel, sought by Jolt? (pizza's post)

Any other names I've missed?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe he was sought by Taka, did I miss something about Jolt? And aren't we sure Jolt didn't have a role, due to his murder and lack of a name? Then again, if that's the case, Taka had no role either, and I am confused.


for convenience, here is a link to murder night one:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2180120&postcount=328
And murder night two:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2182283&postcount=480

[ULC]

So far, we've got (deceased in bold):

Donney (Seamus) -- role specifics not published

Mairead (unknown) -- probable doctor, other particulars unknown

Padraic (AVSM) -- serial killer

Brendan (unknown) -- lead IRA wetworker

Oswald (unknown) -- killer (presumably lead English wetworker)

Davey (unknown) -- killed Paddy's cat in prequel, sought by Jolt? (pizza's post)

Any other names I've missed?

Sought by taka actually.

However, taka was mentioned as taka, not as a named role. That whole situation needs taking a look at to me...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Get out of my brain, YLC!!!

[Diana Abnoba]

Maired, we may have to take this outside.....:beadyeye


Seamus when you take her outside you may want to kiss her, she did save your life. You only got a flesh wound.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote:F.C is the bees knees:wink: Pizzaguy.....Reenk is just being Reenk...:brood: If he was guilty he would not self-incrimate himself.:no: *Check Godfather 3*.....how did he getaway with that stuff???:sweatdrop:

[ULC]

Get out of my brain, YLC!!!

I am not in your brain...I am...somewhere else...

Maybe I am simply a better looking clone of you :2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

How... DARE... you! I'll have you know I am a handsome fellow. Check me out.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/m_9c73de20f879e708e1bfd1d4dc56c9e6.jpgAnd if you're my clone, you'd better thank me for the genes I sent you. Do they fit?

[ULC]

How... DARE... you! I'll have you know I am a handsome fellow. Check me out.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/m_9c73de20f879e708e1bfd1d4dc56c9e6.jpgAnd if you're my clone, you'd better thank me for the genes I sent you. Do they fit?

Considering my physique? No, definitely not. I had to sow my own, and it seems I only managed to nab some stuff for this thing called a brain not many people use. If few people use it, it must be worthless - I've been jipped.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, Okay, White_eyes and everyone else, maybe it's not Reenk. I am just curious about why he'd do this, is all. Not that much of a stretch to wonder about that is it?

I'll keep my vote on him for now, and read up on this FC is the bees knees case.

edit-
Sasaki makes excellent points. I'll do a tally and see whether or not he needs more pressure votes.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Frankly I don't think taka had a role. While confirmation bias keeps me from being certain, so far all the players with roles have been named, and it's been proven that this is also the case if they are nightkilled.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sorry I just got bogged down with something. Can someone else do a tally please.

[F.C is the bees knees]

COOL I AM GOING TO DIE........................................:beam: :beam: unvote:whoever i voted for and VOTE FC goodbye.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, no no. You don't do that. Even I'd be willing to at least answer questions while voting for myself. So you should stick around and respond to the points that have been made against you.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Seamus when you take her outside you may want to kiss her, she did save your life. You only got a flesh wound.

I apologized (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2182718&postcount=512). Skipped the kiss as OOC she's more likely to be a hairy y chromosome type given the player pool. ~;)


EDIT:

Okay, I misread the jolt taka thing, thanks for the correction.


FCBK:

Do not go gently into that good night. If you are town, then fight for all you are worth as you know you are innocent. If you are mafia, then fight for all you are worth as you know you are one of the few.

[F.C is the bees knees]

I rather not... i rather celebrate my birthday.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uhhh.... you may want to reword that, FC.

Tradition around here is that you get lynched on your birthday, it seems. I can name at least two examples of that. :laugh2:

[LittleGrizzly]

Ohh its F.C's birthday, i may just have to chang my vote to F.C now!!

We lynched seamus on his bday i think... whose the other ?

[FactionHeir]

I managed to avoid being lynched on my birthday even though I was mafia during the ORG pubcrawl mafia (which I won :grin:)

[LittleGrizzly]

Well there precedent for you... we have to lynch players on thier birthday!!

My birthday is NOT coming up.... honest!

[Diana Abnoba]

Okay this play is very confusing. Let me see if I got this straight.

Seamus is Donney. Isn't he the father of Padraic in the play? Padraic is AVSM the serial killer as he confessed. Mairead stopped the murder of Donney. Taka no role, so town. He was looking for Davey? What's with the cats, are they running amok in Ireland?

[A Very Super Market]

No, cats are just cuddly and cute.
...

WEE THOMAAAAAAAAS! ~:mecry:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Taka gave me permission to post the messages we sent. BRB.


Taka's PM exchange with me.






Ok... um.... if that thing about the kitty is a hint, I might be able to save you.

But you need to delete that part before anyone sees, and let me know what you mean. Otherwise I have to keep my vote where it is; this could be a desperate attempt to stay alive as mafia.

well i dont mind dying, but more importantly, i need to know how you can help me and why you want to help me

I have a vote that could be changed to help you.
And if you are a protown role, then its obvious why you need help. Do you have a character from the play? What is that character's name?

You don't even need to tell me what your role is, if you have one. I won't reveal it to anyone (without your express permission, period).

Is that kitty reference from the play?

i'm not gonna say anything about my role, but the only thing ill tell you is:

I'm not mafia/badguy
I dont mind dying
however
Someone will be very upset and might go on a bit of a killing frenzy

and i dont know anything about any play....... i saw it mentioned on the thread somewhere, but theres too much to read

if you trust me then you'd help me, but if not then its alright

I trust you, I just saved you, before you even told me this.

I'll feign questioning you next round, but I hope eventually I will have earned your trust to be let in on the loop. I hope you will do me the courtesy of showing me the same benefit of the doubt, should I ask for it.

:medievalcheers:

For the town, and for St. Patty's day.

thank you :bow:

and yes, mutual repesct, if you would need it i would help you

as for telling you the info to do with me..... unfortunately i dont think i can do that, its just a bit too big of a risk. however, if u can help me find davey, then i will let you know

thanks

taka
Ok all I have is the blasted wikipedia page.

I am assuming you're Donny, or Davey... or someone like that


Davey, a young boy, is riding his mountain bike down a road, when he finds a cat lying dead on the ground. He then scoops it up and takes it inside the nearest house, where Donny lives. Donny reveals the cat must be Wee Thomas, his son's cat and only friend for the last 15 years. Upon hearing that Donny's son is Padraic, Davey freaks out, knowing Padraic has a reputation for being mad. Davey pleads with Donny to not involve him as he wishes to stay alive. Donny agrees if Davey admits he killed the cat. Davey does so, only to protect himself. Donny then plans to call Padraic, who is on the mainland, and tell him that Wee Thomas is poorly. Davey does not understand, so Donny explains the concept of letting him down easy. Davey agrees and proceeds to pester Donny to call.

The play then switches to Padraic, who has James, a drug seller, tied up and in pain. Padraic proceeds to pull out two entire toenails from one foot, before explaining that James should go to the hospital, as he doesn't want them to go septic. James proceeds to insult Padraic who then decides to cut off one of his nipples, after knocking multiple teeth out. Just before cutting James' nipple off, Padraic gets the call from Donny saying that Wee Thomas is poorly and off his food. Padraic breaks down into tears and says that he will be on the first boat back to Inishmore. James then suggests ringworm tablets in some cheese, as his cat had the same problem a month or two back. Padraic then releases James and gives him money for the bus to the hospital.

Mairead, Davey's younger sister, then commences shooting at Davey out on the road for killing the cat. Davey attempts to explain he is innocent and that Mairead is mad for shooting the eyes out of ten cows. Mairead, 16, explains it was her version of terrorism. Christy enters and lets Davey escape.

So from the murder writeups, we can see you're probably... innocent? I hope?

I don't know who Davey or Donny or whoever you are (regarding the cat) supports, town, mafia, serial killer... not sure. However, just as an insurance policy, I am saying if you murder me, I'll expose you. (Kinda have to...) I don't have anything yet, but I have a strong lead you have a role, but for now, I think your secret is safe with me. Just cross your fingers and hope I don't get murdered tonight.

*fingers crossed*

Alternatively, should you do a more complete reveal, I won't expose you whether or not I get murdered tonight. I'm just trying to do my typical investigative function here, and I do believe you owe me.

lol

Ok, I won't twist your arm any more. I'll let you go. Good luck, sir!

So from this exchange you see that yesterday I questioned him about having a role and he admitted he was looking for someone called Davey. Also, Taka requests that I continue to look for Davey, because he needs to know something, so I am saying so. If Davey is mission-critical for the town, don't message me, I don't need to know. Talk to Taka.

I don't care if this makes me look scummy or whatever. Like I said, if it's mission critical to town, you don't have to trust me; just talk to Taka because he obviously has no role and is therefore not mafia, and therefore proven innocent.

[taka]

woah, u know what? im pretty stupid for not reading up the summary

was avsm padriac? and he was killed in the night before right? :wall: damn im stupid

the cat's safe, get it to davey asap

[GeneralHankerchief]

In the meantime, I'd like to remind the town to stay focused on our main task: lynching the mafia. Don't let this odd subplot distract you, especially if there's no new information to report (as what seems to be the case now).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually, it seems in the play at least, Mairead goes nuts over the cat. So whoever Mairead is, may not be 100% innocent in things, but she protected Seamus so I'm not going after her.


Mairead, Davey's younger sister, then commences shooting at Davey out on the road for killing the cat. Davey attempts to explain he is innocent and that Mairead is mad for shooting the eyes out of ten cows. Mairead, 16, explains it was her version of terrorism. Christy enters and lets Davey escape.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Well, I don't have much to offer besides that I'm no loyalist nor free stater; just a townie. I'm lurking because I don't know enough of the past mafia games to judge peoples' actions and as a townie I don't have any extra insight into matters. I liked the breakdown of roles Seamus posted last page, but felt it could do for a little formatting.

3 Mafia (IRA)
3 Mafia (English)
3 Pro Town
2 other roles.



Leader - ??? - at large
Killer - Brendan - at large
Henchman - ??? - at large




Leader - ??? - at large
Killer - Oswald - at large
Henchman - ??? - at large




Doctor? - Mairead - at large
??? - ??? - at large
??? - ??? - at large




Serial Killer - Padraic - AVSM KIA
??? - ??? - at large


Unknown Allegience
Donney (Seamus) -- role specifics not published - probably not IRA judging by write-up
Davey (unknown) -- killed Paddy's cat in prequel, sought by Jolt? (pizza's post)

[seireikhaan]

VOTE: SASAKI

[Askthepizzaguy]

WHY, SEIREIKHAAN????

unvote: Reenk
vote: Seireikhaan

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: Psychonaut

For the reasons GH stated in post 508. At least a pressure vote should get him to talk.

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In the meantime, I'd like to remind the town to stay focused on our main task: lynching the mafia. Don't let this odd subplot distract you, especially if there's no new information to report (as what seems to be the case now).

Agreed...most of this subplot seems to do with padraic who is already dead. Mafia finding is key, don't worry about the pro-town roles.

[Jolt]

I didn't recieve a role PM. Therefore I assume I was a plain townie. Didn't sought anyone.

[Greyblades]

Serial Killer - Padraic - AVSM KIA
??? - ??? - at large
I think its safe to say that taka is the other role: He said in the PM that ATPG posted that he may go psycho if soemone dies.

[A Very Super Market]

Agreed...most of this subplot seems to do with padraic who is already dead.

Way to rub it in...:skull:

So far, only Sasaki has even bothered to send me a PM 'bout this game. I doubt he is either Maireed or Oswald, but his willingness to do that when nobody gave a :furious3: is a bit strange...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:


FC: 5 (Andres, Sasaki, Seamus, White_Eyes, FC)
Psychonaut: 2 (GH, Diana)
Alexander: 1 (LG)
Seamus: 1 (YLC)
Reenk: 1 (Greyblades)
Seireikhaan: 1 (Pizzaguy)
Sasaki: 1 (seireikhaan)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Reenk)

As usual, I ask that someone re-check my tally for accuracy.

[Captain Blackadder]

VOTE PSYCHONAUT

Don't know why just a gut feeling

[taka]

Serial Killer - Padraic - AVSM KIA
??? - ??? - at large
I think its safe to say that taka is the other role: He said in the PM that ATPG posted that he may go psycho if soemone dies.

no, it is clear that i dont have a special role - i didnt have a special in game name

however i did have the cat which needed to go to davey. if i knew padraic was dead, i would have made it public, but due to my lack of reading i missed out. anyway i can say that the cat is safe

[FactionHeir]

I'm interested in hearing Seamus' role specifics. We seem to have a doctor who can protect him if he's important enough, but allegiance would be useful I suppose.

If he's the father of a SK though, my thinking is that he likely is not pro town, but could be neutral or mafia.

So for now: vote: Seamus

[pevergreen]

Attempted finishing of the plot that I started writing about 4-5 months ago. :sweatdrop:

Davey, a young boy, is riding his mountain bike down a road, when he finds a cat lying dead on the ground. He then scoops it up and takes it inside the nearest house, where Donny lives. Donny reveals the cat must be Wee Thomas, his son's cat and only friend for the last 15 years. Upon hearing that Donny's son is Padraic, Davey freaks out, knowing Padraic has a reputation for being mad. Davey pleads with Donny to not involve him as he wishes to stay alive. Donny agrees if Davey admits he killed the cat. Davey does so, only to protect himself. Donny then plans to call Padraic, who is on the mainland, and tell him that Wee Thomas is poorly. Davey does not understand, so Donny explains the concept of letting him down easy. Davey agrees and proceeds to pester Donny to call.

The play then switches to Padraic, who has James, a drug seller, tied up and in pain. Padraic proceeds to pull out two entire toenails from one foot, before explaining that James should go to the hospital, as he doesn't want them to go septic. James proceeds to insult Padraic who then decides to cut off one of his nipples, after knocking multiple teeth out. Just before cutting James' nipple off, Padraic gets the call from Donny saying that Wee Thomas is poorly and off his food. Padraic breaks down into tears and says that he will be on the first boat back to Inishmore. James then suggests ringworm tablets in some cheese, as his cat had the same problem a month or two back. Padraic then releases James and gives him money for the bus to the hospital.

Mairead, Davey's younger sister, then commences shooting at Davey out on the road for killing the cat. Davey attempts to explain he is innocent and that Mairead is mad for shooting the eyes out of ten cows. Mairead, 16, explains it was her version of terrorism. Christy enters and lets Davey escape.

To avoid getting killed, Donney and Davey decide to steal another cat and 'paint' him black with shoe polish. After a whole nights work, its useless and Padraic returns home. On his way back from the docks, he spurns Mairead and she leaves. When he returns to find an imposter cat he gets Donney and Davey on their knees and is about to shoot them, executioner style, when the IRA come back, angry that Padriac formed a splinter group. Brendan, Joey and Christy surround Padraic and take him outside, to kill him for leaving the IRA. Once again, as they are about to kill Padraic, Mairead turns up and shoots them in the arms. Padraic then takes up his guns and kills all three of them.

Going back inside, they decide that they are in love. They task Donney and Davey with smashing the teeth and cutting up the bodies of Joey, Brendan and Christy. They complain and request that the killers (Padraic and Mairead) help them out. They quickly rescind the request after Padraic pulls out a gun.

The love of cats has brought Mairead and Padraic together, both of them have lost their beloved cat. However, it is revealed that Padraic killed Mairead's cat in the past. Mairead instantly kisses Padraic, while slowly pulling out two handguns from her pants, as they kiss, she shoots Padraic. After killing him, she adds him to the workload of Donney and Davey, who are just happy to be alive. She then goes out claiming she will be the IRA of this town. Donney and Davey just sigh and get back to work.

Then from above the couch behind them, comes Wee Thomas, the real cat. They see the cause for all the trouble, and the cat's absence is explained by Donney, who says that he sometimes just goes wondering around. They both take up guns and try to kill the cat, but they can't. They decide instead to feed Wee Thomas his favourite food. Kids breakfast cereal (frosty flakes or something like that)

End of play.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm so maybe Donney and Davey are neutral or pro town or simply town with names.

Padraic - Serial Killer / Spliter IRA

Christy/Brendan/Joey - IRA

Maeired - Serial Killer/IRA leaning

[Beefy187]

Way to rub it in...:skull:

So far, only Sasaki has even bothered to send me a PM 'bout this game. I doubt he is either Maireed or Oswald, but his willingness to do that when nobody gave a :furious3: is a bit strange...

Padraic should've been a night kill immune character... Thats my opinion.

But I hate to be a mafia who gets killed in the first night.. Unlucky :shame:

[pevergreen]

FC is the bees knees knew his time was up. Instead of forcing everyone to think of a way to kill him, he just decided to try out some sports. After making his purchase at the pet store, he went to the top of a cliff and put a parrot on his shoulder. As he jumped off the cliff, he shot the parrot.

A bystander just shook his head and said "Bloody parrot-shooters".



FC: 5 (Andres, Sasaki, Seamus, WE, FC)
Atpgood: 1 (Lg)
Seamus: 2 (YLC, FH)
Reenk: 2 (ATPG, Greyblades)
Pyschonaut: 3 (GH, Diana, Captain Blackadder)
Sasaki: 1 (khaan)
Atpguy: 1 (Reenk)


Alive:
Andres
Captain Blackadder
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Psychonaut
Lord Winter
White Eyes
Seamus
CountArach
Factionheir
Polemists
serierkhaan
777ares777
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades
Alexander the Pretty Good
Ituralde
El Diablo
YLC
gaelic cowboy

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees

It is now Night 3. Orders please.

[naut]

I actually forgot I was part of this. I can't really keep up, so I humbly request a suicide/replacement. :bow:

[shlin28]

Sorry for not voting yesterday, was busy and the wirless was playing up. Will be more active now :bow:

[Greyblades]

no, it is clear that i dont have a special role - i didnt have a special in game name

however i did have the cat which needed to go to davey. if i knew padraic was dead, i would have made it public, but due to my lack of reading i missed out. anyway i can say that the cat is safe
Sorry my mistake; was feeling pretty groggy last night. But you did say, or at least implied, that you knew someone with a sort of guardian role that would go psycho if you died.

[El Diablo]

Back from the weekend in time ofr a night phase. Awesome...:furious3:

[LittleGrizzly]

So have we got any good suspects... i voted for atpgood but he's posted since then, was just trying to get some response.... anybody have any ideas or just voted for anyone who seems shady ?

[El Diablo]

I am confused as people are claiming roles and as I don't know the story I am not sure why people
(like Reink) we not lynched last round.

[White_eyes:D]

I am confused as people are claiming roles and as I don't know the story I am not sure why people
(like Reink) we not lynched last round.

Because Reenk is just being Reenk:juggle2: (His playstyle, when townie is very "I want to be lynched/or killed WIFOM style") Town should not waste that lynch....if they did that in Godfather 3....me and Beefy would have won:yes:

[Thermal]

sooooo....


Hello

[Reenk Roink]

Because Reenk is just being Reenk:juggle2: (His playstyle, when townie is very "I want to be lynched/or killed WIFOM style") Town should not waste that lynch....if they did that in Godfather 3....me and Beefy would have won:yes:

This man is very wise. :bow:

[pevergreen]

WoGs and suicide are taking place at the end of this phase, in 7 hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This man is very wise. :bow:

Just a minor point; that play style is effective in hiding being a mafia. So just because one employs the tactic in one game as a townie, that means nothing. It's the very argument used against me in round one of this game. Reenk has a consistent strategy which is very ambiguous to me, and I tend to think of myself as a good behavioral analyzer. But I don't have a case I wish to make at this time. Waiting for day phase.

[White_eyes:D]

Every game I played with Reenk, where he had a vanilla townie role.....he always would get himself killed or lynched.:shrug: He just hates not having a Pro-town or Mafia role..:juggle2:(but he is hosting a game right now....:book:)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not to make too big a stink over it; we learn in every mafia game that past performance is no indication of future results. Just because Reenk did A and B in previous game C, that does not mean when Reenk does A and B in current game D that he must be a townie. In fact, I believe that is everyone's main gripe with SkyNet, and it is why I mostly retired that puppy.

[Reenk Roink]

Someone please kill Atpg. I would, but I'm going to be occupied with something else and don't want to look bad. I think Atpg is gunning for me and he needs to be eliminated.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is my questioning of you making you nervous? I don't see why that would be. If this is some kind of bait attempt to get me to murder you, I'm afraid I don't have such powers. A good attempt though. I don't mind being questioned, but you're not even doing that, and as such I have nothing to respond to.

[White_eyes:D]

Is my questioning of you making you nervous? I don't see why that would be. If this is some kind of bait attempt to get me to murder you, I'm afraid I don't have such powers. A good attempt though. I don't mind being questioned, but you're not even doing that, and as such I have nothing to respond to.

Don't do it ATPG:sweatdrop: last time I pressured Reenk in a game he was Mafia, it went badly.....but he never did any WIFOM stuff, I just got lynched:no: check "Whispers in the night" but I had a "gut feeling" he was up to something that game. (which oddly enough I was right....when it comes to Reenk.....I can tell if he is being ballsy or just plain odd....:shrug:)

[pevergreen]

CountArach walked in to Mcdoogals and ordered a pint of ale. Brendan was there and he turned to Countarach and said good day. Countarach turned to him and said arent you the guy that has been killing people in this bar? Brendan said yes I am but I have a reason. I fight for Ireland do you? Countarach said yes but not like a terrorist. He grabbed a wiskey bottle and hit Brendan in the face with it. This knocked out Brendans tooth. But Brendan took out a gun and shot him dead right there at Mcdoogals. Then he stood over Countarach and said this is a shame I need fighters like you to join the cause. Brendan left a card and it said Two Blind Mice.

Alexander the Pretty Good left the pub drunk to the gills and headed for home, quickly leaving the hustle and bustle of main street behind him. He gradually ascended for half a mile, and then found himself at the top of a considerable eminence, where the wood ceased, and the eye was instantly caught by his house, situated on the opposite side of a valley, into which the road, with some abruptness, wound. It was a large, handsome, stone building, standing well on rising ground, and backed by a ridge of high woody hills;—and in front, a stream of some natural importance was swelled into greater, but without any artificial appearance. Its banks were neither formal, nor falsely adorned.

He descended the hill, crossed the bridge, went through the front door, and entered the dining-parlour. It was a large, well-proportioned room, handsomely fitted up. Alexander, after slightly surveying it, went to a window to enjoy its prospect. The hill, crowned with wood, from which he had descended, receiving increased abruptness from the distance, was a beautiful object. Every disposition of the ground was good; and he looked on the whole scene—the river, the trees scattered on its banks, and the winding of the valley, as far as he could trace it—with the pride of ownership.

Across the valley, a considerably more sober Oswald took in the same view Alexander had enjoyed earlier. He so admired the general stonework of the house that he took a closer look through the scope of his rifle, and in doing so just happened to catch sight of the man standing at the window, smugly surveying his property. With a gentle squeeze of the trigger, all that was left of Alexander's head was a Pretty Good mess on the floor.

Polemists and gaelic cowboy have been wog'd. Pyschonaut has suicided. No more please.


As the town gathered once again, pevergreen just looked around and sighed. Come on guys, their right in front of us! Lets just get these guys already...Theres only 23 of us left and who knows how many terrorists and british...

Alive:
Andres
Captain Blackadder
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Lord Winter
White Eyes
Seamus
Factionheir
serierkhaan
777ares777
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades
Ituralde
El Diablo
YLC

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees

It is now Day 4.

[Captain Blackadder]

Did the WOGS have any roles?

[Ituralde]

I'm back from the weekend. Seems some interesting developments have happened.

What's up with Seamus? We know he has a named role, but he refuses to talk more about it. How come?

Vote: Seamus

[Beefy187]

Donneys my favorite. Don't bully him :whip:

[Askthepizzaguy]

line edited out.

Ituralde: I believe it's been established that Seamus is a pro-town, if I am not mistaken. As such, I really have to question why you want him lynched. He's a named character who was protected, possibly by a mason defender, or simply Brendan was role blocked.

vote: boudica

Last post was on 3-19 and I know she's active right now.

[boudica]

It seems like the sub-plot / pro-town roles are all but deaded. Apologies for lack of participation over the weekend. While I voted Reenk on day 2, I think it was for his 'usual'?? antics I shall now vote: Askthepizzaguy. - reason: gut instinct.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Err... how do you figure? Aren't there at least 3 pro-town roles and what is it, 2 other roles? By my count, there are still more.


Edit: filling in the blanks now with the summary thread.

Dead:

Publius Aelius Hadrianus- nonplayer, no role, dead
A Very Super Market- Padraic, serial killer confessed, dead.
Jolt- normal townie, dead.
taka- no in-game name.
Polemists- WOG, dead. Role?
gaelic cowboy- WOG, dead. Role?
Alexander the Pretty Good- normal townie, dead.
CountArach- normal townie, dead.
Psychonaut- suicide, townie?
Beefy187- normal townie, confirmed, dead.
F.C is the bees knees- normal townie, dead.

I only count one role dead. Did I miss anyone?




Alive:

Seamus Fermanagh: Donney
Mairead: Seamus' protector, still at large
Brendan: Irish mafia
Oswald: English mafia
Joey: no info at present.
Christy: no info at present.
James: no info at present.
Davey: no info at present.

[pevergreen]

Please do not read the post by gaelic cowboy(its probably too late :wall:)

I have asked for it to be deleted.

[boudica]

Ituralde: I believe it's been established that Seamus is a pro-town, if I am not mistaken. As such, I really have to question why you want him lynched. He's a named character who was protected, possibly by a mason defender, or simply Brendan was role blocked.

vote: boudica

Last post was on 3-19 and I know she's active right now.

:laugh4: I went offline after I'd apparently cross-posted with you. Funny we suspected each other simultaneously. I assumed you'd have made a reply to my voting you by now so checked back only to find you had somehow managed to squeeze your vote for me in before mine for you!

My vote for you stands btw. - You don't seem to have offered yourself up for a lynch yet and that's just not normal for you in my experience.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:laugh4: I went offline after I'd apparently cross-posted with you. Funny we suspected each other simultaneously. I assumed you'd have made a reply to my voting you by now so checked back only to find you had somehow managed to squeeze your vote for me in before mine for you!

My vote for you stands btw. - You don't seem to have offered yourself up for a lynch yet and that's just not normal for you in my experience.

Uh....?

Were you not here for the first round? Let me see if I can find the quote.

Post 133:

Sasaki: :bow:

With this many people, you're just going to hit an innocent or a pro-town role. Even if you got close to catching a mafia, they would just manipulate the tally and avoid it.

As such, I'm volunteering to go first. I'd like any and all votes, please.

[LittleGrizzly]

Kinda hard to now not to read the post... i read it and then read your post telling me not to read it...

Im going to go with the pizza guy here and vote boudica possibly faking confusion to disguise a role ? asking helpful qustions but not much input... actually quite similar to my behaviour... did pizza guy do his usual suicidal offering first round... if he didn't he could be mafia...

EDIT: ok pizza did offer himself... im sure it didn't seem as committed as some of his recent suicidal crusades...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am checking her activity for round one. I want to see if she's feigning not knowing, or if she could actually be telling the truth.

-edit- she was active that round, but not by much. Voted for GC, and that's about it. Possible she didn't read the thread.

[FactionHeir]

Or he would do it even if he was mafia to disguise that he is mafia? :inquisitive:

Me thinks that since Donney and Maired are related, maybe that's an autoblock function. But I still think Maired is probably a SK.

[LittleGrizzly]

But I still think Maired is probably a SK.

It would be most unusual i think for an sk to be able to protect...

Im referring to ATPG's summary which had maired as possibly seamus's protector...

[Askthepizzaguy]

In the play, she was quite brutal, according to pevergreen's summary post 562 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2183051&postcount=562). That being said, she does seem to have a defensive function here. Host's prerogative to determine the roles, I suppose.

[pevergreen]

Host's prerogative to determine the roles, I suppose.

Well, its a mafia game, not a play. Otherwise there would be no english and Padraic wouldn't be dead.

[boudica]

Ach - ok so you DID offer yourself up for the lynch :laugh4: I remember now actually mentioning it in a Psychomafia PM as well that you were trying to get lynched again...

My vote for you was based on the activity over the last few pages. Looking at it again, maybe I was swayed by the apparent conflict between you and Reenk...?

Well, what can I say but: I am town - plain and simple no-role boudica

I guess in one respect that I am not such a bad lynch option given that my contribution to this game has been slight and I can't see it getting much deeper. However I am an awful lynch option given my innocence, but you'll just have to either take me at my word, or wait for the write-up to confirm it.

With town's best interest in mind, I shall not unvote yet - but stand aside in order that perhaps more worthy lynch candidates might come centre stage.

[Ituralde]

line edited out.

Ituralde: I believe it's been established that Seamus is a pro-town, if I am not mistaken. As such, I really have to question why you want him lynched. He's a named character who was protected, possibly by a mason defender, or simply Brendan was role blocked.

vote: boudica

Last post was on 3-19 and I know she's active right now.

Established as in, we don't really now and just assume ist since he was protected? You are right if Mairead is some kind of doctor and also pro-town. But then judging from the play Mairead isn't the most friendly character either. What if she and Donney have some serial killer mechanic to be able to win that has nothing to do with the town's victory conditions? After all isn't Donney the father of Padraic, the mean IRA guy?

Also from the times I have been doctor in past Mafia games, I had the choice to protect one person each night, so the saving of Donney could just have been happenstance? Although it would seem likely that there is some connection between Mairead, Davey, Donney as the appear that way in the play.

All a bit strange, so unless there's some more information I'm not gonna automatically assume that Seamus is pro-town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: boudica
vote: ituralde

I believe that last post deserves a vote. If Seamus is claiming a role, then the mafia is bound to take another shot at him, whether he has a role or not. And if he makes it more than halfway through the game and hasn't accomplished something with his supposed role, we can pressure him or vote him off then.

I disagree with your assessment, and your strategy.

[Ituralde]

I'm just curious to the extent of Seamus role. I don't suggest to lynch him right away, just wanted to apply some pressure to get him to talk some more. He's already known to have a role and he has a protector. How much worse can it get for him if he reveals his role? So until he answers my vote stays. It's the only piece of information I've got so I'm going for it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fair enough. I would just like to point out that since he's declined to reveal, your pressure will be ineffective, especially if there is no bandwagon. And I do not advocate a bandwagon on Seamus at this time.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

https://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f337/viscera76/blarg.jpg

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

I refuse to answer your fascist questions. No I'm not nervous, just irritated. :laugh4:

[A Very Super Market]

Wait, has no one noticed the "Three Blind Mice" to "Two Blind Mice" clue? I mean, it seems rather obvious, but I don't see any other reason to change it. Either Jolt or Reenk was mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uh... Reenk is still alive. He's kind of voting for me. In fact, I am almost sure he is. :laugh2:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

While I voted Reenk on day 2, I think it was for his 'usual'?? antics I shall now vote: Askthepizzaguy. - reason: gut instinct.


Ach - ok so you DID offer yourself up for the lynch :laugh4: I remember now actually mentioning it in a Psychomafia PM as well that you were trying to get lynched again...

My vote for you was based on the activity over the last few pages. Looking at it again, maybe I was swayed by the apparent conflict between you and Reenk...?

Well, what can I say but: I am town - plain and simple no-role boudica

I guess in one respect that I am not such a bad lynch option given that my contribution to this game has been slight and I can't see it getting much deeper. However I am an awful lynch option given my innocence, but you'll just have to either take me at my word, or wait for the write-up to confirm it.

With town's best interest in mind, I shall not unvote yet - but stand aside in order that perhaps more worthy lynch candidates might come centre stage.

Vote:Boudica

The second post is after two votes on her, and yet she's already baling on any sort of normal defense and going for "I'm just a townie you can lynch me it's ok but if you do the writeup will show etc".

Now the reason for votes were:

Low activity
Thin reasoning
Saying pizza didn't offer himself up for lynch

Which are reasonable suspicions but not overwhelming. Mafia are usually over paranoid about who suspects them, worried about casual comments that no one else in the town really even notices, and boudica fits that profile to a T.

[FactionHeir]

AVSM:
Or someone wants you to think that this is the case. pevergreen did mention that kills are written by the killers.

Sasaki does make sense, what's your defense boudica?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wait, has no one noticed the "Three Blind Mice" to "Two Blind Mice" clue? I mean, it seems rather obvious, but I don't see any other reason to change it. Either Jolt or Reenk was mafia.

I wonder if the hadn't read pever's plots carefully and were trying to claim padraic as one of their own in order to appear weaker.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am looking at the murder write-ups, but I hardly consider them viable clues. Misleading clues written by the mafia have been used in the Godfather game, and in Scourge of Ephesus. If we base our play off of stuff that came straight from the mafia's own hand, we are playing into theirs.

Still, it appears they were written by the same people, and in the same style. That's about all I can glean from them without delving into unreasonable speculation.

[A Very Super Market]

Feh, forgot about the kills being written by mafia. Never mind me, then. Or just WIFOM endlessly

[Askthepizzaguy]

Weren't you a serial killer that was anti-town? Or did I misinterpret. I don't mind your participation, I just wonder what your objectives are.

[ULC]

Vote: Seamus

[seireikhaan]

VOTE: SASAKI

[Askthepizzaguy]

I find this discussion staggeringly useful. :no:

[ULC]

VOTE: SASAKI

VOTE: SEAMUS

My colors are prettier...

[A Very Super Market]

I was anti-everyone, but my goal is completely unaccomplishable (Unless the last two people are IRA and English and just kill each other) I might as well try and help out.

Simply put, I'm kinda bored.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Very well, and since I am bored as well, I'll talk to you. Are any of the current suspects being voted for good ones in your opinon? Do you have any suspects of your own to offer.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Khaan is trying to imply something, that's clear enough. Starts out bold, becomes lavender, then rainbow? Is there a character in the play who starts out straight, becomes gay, then becomes a gay activist?

[Askthepizzaguy]

There are a couple more realistic probabilities.

I see that he could be employing a pro-town strategy of dropping hints.
Or, he's just employing a basic townie strategy of trying to get the mafia to murder him, and not explaining his votes to generate controversy, which is frankly brilliant.
Or he could be mafia attempting to mislead us.

So many possibilities, but there is no way of knowing. I doubt he'd reveal so early, and I won't be manipulated so easily. I need a case, not a hint.

[FactionHeir]

I thought in mafia games it was always about "If in doubt, lynch"? :grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Being predictable gets us killed, too. Even if I would offer benefit of the doubt in one game over a reasonless vote, I may not do so in another game, because the mafia could pick up on that as a viable strategy for manipulating the town.

I'll look at Sasaki more closely, but that's about all I can do when I've been given nothing to work with.

[FactionHeir]

You mean like your Day 1 lynchthepizzaguy? :tongue2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

You mean like your Day 1 lynchthepizzaguy? :tongue2:

That is awesome. I am seriously considering changing my name to lynchthepizzaguy.

:medievalcheers:

[shlin28]

Vote: ATPG

Your potential future name told me to do it.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: ATPG

Your potential future name told me to do it.

You just put pizza ahead of boudica by my count...

I told you guys pizza should have been lynched day 1.

[Lord Winter]

Sorry everyone, I fell behind in my mafia reading.

Anyway, I don't see any point in lynching AtPG again. He's done nothing out of character and deserves to live through the first half of a game for once.

I agree with Saski, Boucida is truely acting out of character. I can't remember her doing the lynch me if you want thing before.

Vote: Boucida

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I don't produce a mafia by the mid-point of the game, you can go ahead and lynch me for my failure. I'd prefer you lynched me sooner rather than later, though, as in later rounds we might actually have viable suspects and every lynch counts.

[GeneralHankerchief]

khaan's behavior is startlingly similar to GF3 when he was Detective and dropping hints as to who (he thought) the mafia was. However, he knows how much of a failure that strategy was.

Need to look into boudica more before I make a decision.

[Askthepizzaguy]

khaan's behavior is startlingly similar to GF3 when he was Detective and dropping hints as to who (he thought) the mafia was. However, he knows how much of a failure that strategy was.

I am hesitant to vote for him again because of that. However, if we don't get a detective reveal or an explanation at some point, I absolutely will vote for him. There's only so much benefit of the doubt people can be allowed.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Has boudica ever come under early-game pressure before, and if so, in what game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can check. I am familiar with most of the games she's been in.

Oh, duh... Psycho mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113845). My own game. She was lynched round one and had a role.

[Thermal]

CountArach walked in to Mcdoogals and ordered a pint of ale. Brendan was there and he turned to Countarach and said good day. Countarach turned to him and said arent you the guy that has been killing people in this bar? Brendan said yes I am but I have a reason. I fight for Ireland do you? Countarach said yes but not like a terrorist. He grabbed a wiskey bottle and hit Brendan in the face with it. This knocked out Brendans tooth. But Brendan took out a gun and shot him dead right there at Mcdoogals. Then he stood over Countarach and said this is a shame I need fighters like you to join the cause. Brendan left a card and it said Two Blind Mice.

Alexander the Pretty Good left the pub drunk to the gills and headed for home, quickly leaving the hustle and bustle of main street behind him. He gradually ascended for half a mile, and then found himself at the top of a considerable eminence, where the wood ceased, and the eye was instantly caught by his house, situated on the opposite side of a valley, into which the road, with some abruptness, wound. It was a large, handsome, stone building, standing well on rising ground, and backed by a ridge of high woody hills;—and in front, a stream of some natural importance was swelled into greater, but without any artificial appearance. Its banks were neither formal, nor falsely adorned.

He descended the hill, crossed the bridge, went through the front door, and entered the dining-parlour. It was a large, well-proportioned room, handsomely fitted up. Alexander, after slightly surveying it, went to a window to enjoy its prospect. The hill, crowned with wood, from which he had descended, receiving increased abruptness from the distance, was a beautiful object. Every disposition of the ground was good; and he looked on the whole scene—the river, the trees scattered on its banks, and the winding of the valley, as far as he could trace it—with the pride of ownership.

Across the valley, a considerably more sober Oswald took in the same view Alexander had enjoyed earlier. He so admired the general stonework of the house that he took a closer look through the scope of his rifle, and in doing so just happened to catch sight of the man standing at the window, smugly surveying his property. With a gentle squeeze of the trigger, all that was left of Alexander's head was a Pretty Good mess on the floor.


Write up

'Two Blind Mice'

Suggests theres two people working together, and that were blind to who they are? Well I have some thoughts.


'road' 'bridge' 'stream' 'stonework' indicates grey, greyblades? Greyblades and Faction Heir voted in sync for the first two days, both of there votes late on the bandwagon and resulted in that persons death, it'll do for me.


vote: Greyblades

[Askthepizzaguy]

'road' 'bridge' 'stream' 'stonework' indicates grey, greyblades? Greyblades and Faction Heir voted in sync for the first two days, both of there votes late on the bandwagon and resulted in that persons death, it'll do for me.

That is some pretty bizarre reasoning, there Ares.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Alexander was a famous greek, almost a god to them...maybe the hint those awfully considerate mafia intended was for us to look for someone else who was a greek god?

[Yoyoma1910]

*blip*



Reposting

[FactionHeir]

Alexander was a famous greek, almost a god to them...maybe the hint those awfully considerate mafia intended was for us to look for someone else who was a greek god?

:laugh4:

[Yoyoma1910]

vote:'Khaan


Earth tones bleeding into High Chroma?!?! That's is so Mafia pallet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe this is the correct tally, but I am not sure.


Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Ituralde: 1 (ATPG)
Sasaki: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
Greyblades: 1 (Ares)

[GeneralHankerchief]

I can check. I am familiar with most of the games she's been in.

Oh, duh... Psycho mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113845). My own game. She was lynched round one and had a role.

That was painful to read. :wall:

Vote: Ares

Reaching.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Ituralde: 1 (ATPG)
Sasaki: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
Greyblades: 1 (Ares)
Ares: 1 (GH)

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

https://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f337/viscera76/blarg.jpg

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I hadn't seen that yet. THANKS for the chuckle.

[ULC]

That was painful to read. :wall:

Vote: Ares

Reaching.

For?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Check ATPG's post 634.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

There is literally nothing in this post that makes any sense. You didn't even check when the last time boudica was online. I did it for you: 8:53.

[Askthepizzaguy]

She was still under pressure at the time and didn't back off her position.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

I don't believe that either of you will be lynched.


Ares: Was ist dis? It's been noted openly in the thread that the mafia get to turn in the first draft on their kills and that pever' is only changing things as needed to fit the narrative or the results of other role night actions. So the only way your idea works is if the opposing mafia KNEW the names of the other mafia prior to the start of play and were dropping cryptic hints about their opposition so as to get them lynched and thereby save kills. Your argument scores very high up on the improbability meter. Or are you simply fascinated with your own writing....

Vote: Ares

[Greyblades]

Hmm should I revenge vote or should I just abstain...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hmm should I revenge vote or should I just abstain...

Perhaps a Tribesman-style rejoinder?

[Greyblades]

Que? Im sorry but what do you mean by Tribesman-style rejoinder?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

She was still under pressure at the time and didn't back off her position.

See this is the problem with your play in mafia games. Making careless assumptions and arguments is only half of it, when someone criticizes your argument you don't reconsider, you make great leaps in logic in order to keep your original assumption, even if it requires you to contradict something you said 5 minutes ago. Unless several people criticize your argument in which case you vote yourself and make a lengthy post about how you are in "lurker" mode and that you should just be lynched and start putting everything you say in spoilers.

Just honestly reconsider, and be more careful in the first place. :wall:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Que? Im sorry but what do you mean by Tribesman-style rejoinder?

"Tribesman-style" means voting for boudica. Tribesman hates boudica for some reason.

[Greyblades]

... nah im not in the mood for that sort of thing.
Vote: Ares Petty revenge is a better excuse than because-a-guy-told-me-so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You say that nothing I said makes sense, Sasaki?

Seamus is an admitted role; Donney. Donney isn't the one going around killing people, I don't think. And if we did determine that he were a henchman or a Godfather he is as good as dead whenever we please anyway. If he has no permanent protection, and he's pro-town, the mafia will at least attempt to take him out at some point. There is much value in keeping him alive. But Ituralde is voting for him instead of better suspects, just so Ituralde can know what his role is. Pressuring Seamus with votes to get him to confess the full abilities of his role... seems like a waste of votes to me. And in the meantime, the mafia roam free. So why does that not make sense that Ituralde is a better lynch than boudica, especially since, given your own argument, she's voting for me, and I'm one of your top suspects and you wanted me dead round one. Now, with the vote tied, you're not voting for me. Why the sudden change? That's not consistent behavior for you. If you think I am a top suspect, then why aren't you voting for me? That looks scummy to me. You have a chance to off me now, and you're not taking it?

:thumbsdown:

Then Ares votes with reasoning that would curl your hair, and you don't flinch. And what of all these lurkers that we're supposed to be making sure are dead early every game? Not following through on any of it. I don't think you're townie, Sasaki.

I think Seireikhaan may be onto something after all. Vote for me if you think I am scum, because I am now voting for you for not acting like a proper townie.

unvote: Ituralde
vote: Sasaki

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Swear to me you wrote that before seeing my post where I talked about how overdefensive you are of any criticism of your arguments...

edit:

Ok, I don't want to turn this into another pizza vs sasak argument. Just two points. Pizza, you work very hard at finding mafia but your biggest pitfall is what I described. In the GF3, I criticized your arguments in the exact same way, and you cam up with an elaborate theory about mafia recruitment in order to fit me in as a mafioso. You have to be able to thoughtfully reconsider your posts in order to be successful at finding mafia because we all make mistakes.

Second,


And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

Think about this. Instead of dealing with the potential criticism that the argument is wifom, you go for an "agree with me or lynch me" approach.

[El Diablo]

Vote Greyblades - for tickling my spider senses.

I am suspicious of ATPG as well but will keep an eye on him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Swear to me you wrote that before seeing my post where I talked about how overdefensive you are of any criticism of your arguments...

I did, I think.

But the argument is the same. You keep saying we should have lynched me, and here's your chance, and you're sticking with boudica. That's the disconnect. Explain why I am both a suspect, and also, someone you wouldn't lynch at the drop of a hat.

I'm not trying to start a war, Sasaki; just explain to me your reasoning. I don't get it.

[ULC]

List of most highly suspected by general consensus
Sasaki
AskthePizzaGuy
Seamus
Boudica
Ituralde

I'll "try" (depends on how forgiving the librarians are) to post the general reasons why each is highly suspected and why they should be lynched/ignored.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Ares: 3 (GH, Seamus, Greyblades)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Sasaki: 2 (Seireikhaan, ATPG)
Greyblades: 2 (Ares, El Diablo)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)

The tally has certainly changed from a few minutes ago. Can someone recheck please? I grow weary of asking. I won't do the tallies by myself, and I have been known to mess them up.

[LittleGrizzly]

I think ATPG is the worst lynch out of the 3.... maybe someone should move thier vote...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Que? Im sorry but what do you mean by Tribesman-style rejoinder?

Tribesman is a frequent BR poster who adores using the "laugh" smiley as a "mocking laugh I think your point is silly" smiley.

Sasaki, you know this. Are you leading Grey' astray? For shame....

[shlin28]

Now that I've read the case on Boudica...

Unvote: ATPG, Vote: Boudica

Though I'm watching ATPG... You better come up with some suspects for me to bandwagon soon... or else :inquisitive:

:clown:

[Greyblades]

Vote Greyblades - for tickling my spider senses.

Why do allways get people saying I'm mafia just due to intuition?

Seriously I'm getting a little sick of it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think Ares is a better lynch than boudica this round.

[El Diablo]

Ares is a lot quiter than usual (although I have not played a mafia for over a month - so he may have changed his style) - can anyone confirm?

[FactionHeir]

I'm going with GH on this one, just because.

vote: Ares

Is that scummy enough for GH to call for my lynch next? :grin:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I can't see why ares would post that as town, but I don't see why he'd do it as a mafia either. Seamus suggested he was admiring his own writing, and though it's clearly not ares's writing, the suggestion that his mafia partner planted clues pointing to greyblades and ares is bringing them up makes sense but at the same time...huh?? What kind of plan is that? More than one person would have had to think it was a good idea, the writer, and ares himself. He's been quiet, but absent on the twc as well as here. It doesn't add up to me. The simpler answer is that he didn't notice that the writeups were by the mafia and wasn't in the mood to put much effort in, so he made a half hearted attempt at writeup analysis.

VV GH asked about it earlier and it was said he wasn't very active over there either.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd like to report he was active on TWC recently to do the writeup. Yesterday, 7:17 PM my time.

[White_eyes:D]

My vote is unneeded for now.....Vote:abstain:book:

[LittleGrizzly]

Vote is uneeded ?

Ares and Boudica are tied at 4 votes each!

[GeneralHankerchief]

If I wasn't one of the four votes on Ares I'd take it off and put mine on White_eyes. He abstained a lot in GF3 too.

[White_eyes:D]

Ares: Mafia maybe....
Boudica: Mafia maybe....

I can't support either.....both seem good lynchees....:shrug: if you want to hang me for it.....go head:clown:

[LittleGrizzly]

*measures up WE for a coffin*

Any prefrences on the type of wood ?

[White_eyes:D]

*measures up WE for a coffin*

Any prefrences on the type of wood ?

Pine is nice....and the gallows....make them, kinda like hangman....:hanged:

[White_eyes:D]

fine....Vote:Ares and I don't feel it was needed...but nobody wanted to step up to the plate, it seems...:brood:

[Thermal]

unvote
vote:YLC

He uses colour in his writing, the green symbolizes envy and red danger, hes a threat to us.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote
vote:YLC

He uses colour in his writing, the green symbolizes envy and red danger, hes a threat to us.

...have you not read the rest of the thread?

[Thermal]

List of most highly suspected by general consensus
Sasaki
AskthePizzaGuy
Seamus
Boudica
Ituralde

I'll "try" (depends on how forgiving the librarians are) to post the general reasons why each is highly suspected and why they should be lynched/ignored.

:jawdrop:

see! however FoS: ATPG his name being red is while making YLC dangerous, contaminating ATPG in the process :smash:

[Beefy187]

List of most highly suspected by general consensus
Sasaki
AskthePizzaGuy
Seamus
Boudica
Ituralde

I'll "try" (depends on how forgiving the librarians are) to post the general reasons why each is highly suspected and why they should be lynched/ignored.

Don't lynch Sasaki. Pink is always the good one in power rangers.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Trying to make sure he's lynched instead of boudica? I don't see why ares the townie wouldn't defend himself, he did so in gf3 quite strongly.

Reading back, he mentions that he thinks the "two blind mice" means one family has two people. I thought before that the mafia switched from "three blind mice" to two because they thought they could pass of padraic as one of their own. They'd have had to not read the thread carefully, but then Ares apparantly didn't read carefully.


Sounds like A Very Supper Market was the IRA mafia boss.

Yoyoma also dropped in this idea, as did little grizzly. Eh, maybe the mafia are pointing out their own hints or maybe townies are just picking up on them. Yoyoma did suspect avsm who then turned up dead. Though he made sure to mention it next day which is bold.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Well, if you think about it, that list isn't much of a surprise. Sasaki is ALWAYS near the top of peoples suspicious list.


This is true when he's playing mafia as well.




:devilish:

[Greyblades]

...I could have sworn this wasn't the Psycho mafia.

Ares your about to be lynched and your voting YLC?

Edit- Wow, three posts in the same minute.

[Thermal]

Ares your about to be lynched and your voting YLC?


Your point being? :juggle2:

[Greyblades]

If this turns into a WIFOM im going to kick myself... So, why arent you trying to save yourself by voting for boudica?

[White_eyes:D]

If this turns into a WIFOM im going to kick myself... So, why arent you trying to save yourself by voting for boudica?

They both might be Mafia(He doesn't want to vote his partner).....:inquisitive: I suspected it, but his voting for YLC to try and find a scapegoat increased it....:inquisitive:

[GeneralHankerchief]

They both might be Mafia(He doesn't want to vote his partner)

At this point in the game, this is not the case 99% of the time. We need to stop with wishful thinking in the midgame.

[White_eyes:D]

At this point in the game, this is not the case 99% of the time. We need to stop with wishful thinking in the midgame.

Are we all forgetting Godfather 3?:mellow: That's how Sasaki caught me and Beefy:wall:

[Greyblades]

...There is no tried and true 100% method of getting a Mafioso is there?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

At this point in the game, this is not the case 99% of the time. We need to stop with wishful thinking in the midgame.

No we don't. You pulled the 99% figure out of your hat, there's no harm in looking for connections between people and role names are revealed upon death.

[LittleGrizzly]

Yoyoma also dropped in this idea, as did little grizzly. Eh, maybe the mafia are pointing out their own hints or maybe townies are just picking up on them.

As much as i would like to be able to take credit for such a claim... im pretty sure i didn't.. at least i can't remember saying anything similar to that...

Ares refusal to shift his vote is intresting... mafia with a brass pair or townie with good intentions ?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That won't be an actual brass pair until after midnight when the lynch is nearly at hand. I remember when I was mafia in Prometheus, I left the vote looking rather uncomfortable for myself for quite some time.

The end tally, and the behavior between now and then, is most interesting to see.

[GeneralHankerchief]

No we don't. You pulled the 99% figure out of your hat, there's no harm in looking for connections between people and role names are revealed upon death.

If the town banks on the happy conclusion that everybody on the "lynch list" is mafia and bases further lynches off that, we get screwed. Surely you remember Lord Winter from GF3.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If the town banks on the happy conclusion that everybody on the "lynch list" is mafia and bases further lynches off that, we get screwed. Surely you remember Lord Winter from GF3.

GF3, where roles weren't revealed upon death?


VV Tevash voted to save beefy. If we'd lynched tevash and found him to be guilty, shouldn't we have then lynched beefy? Your criticizing the possibility of being wrong in a situation where being wrong has no extra baggage. They were both on the lynching block already.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think we're talking about two different things. My main point was don't assume that both people that refuse to switch their votes are mafia partners.

[Greyblades]

The end tally, and the behavior between now and then, is most interesting to see.
Great, now you've scared everyone away. :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Let's talk about your guilt, greyblades.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Names revealed don't necessarily equate to roles. Aside from Oswald, every named role has been Irish and indistinguishable aside from a few little clues given by pever. And these clues will probably be a lot less in lynch scenes than they will in kill scenes (although this is speculation because we haven't had this scenario come up yet).

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe that all named characters have roles. Can anyone give evidence refuting that? I believe it's actually in one of pever's posts. Let me check.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I meant that if a person has a name it doesn't say what kind of role they have. Yes, there's been hints, but we can't be certain by any means.

[A Very Super Market]

He mentioned that townies don't get role PMs. That means that all roles HAVE to have names, probably limited by the play.

Oswald is clearly English, and he killed me. If pevergreen WOG'd a mafia, he would tell us, right?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Townies do not receive PMs, however, not all roles have been assigned. I am still waiting on the Godfathers choices. After that, I still have to assign the remaining roles, then I can begin.


Every person with a role has a name. In any kill writeups or lynches, if a player with a name features in them, their in game name will be used. (eg, If my name is Bob and I kill Beefy, the write up would say that Bob stalked beefy and killed him.)

Just saw your post, GH. I think it is still fair to say that everyone with a name should be dead before the end of the game, to be on the safe side, yes?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, sure, but the problem is we don't know who exactly has a named role. I'm sure that Oswald isn't going to reveal himself and throw himself on the mercy of the town.

[LittleGrizzly]

I don't nessecarily object to a pro town role finishing the game with us... but saying that...

named character = probably bad news

[Askthepizzaguy]

If there is an investigator, they can detect people with names. Then we can lynch them before the game is over. Obviously saving the investigator for last, keeping track of how many names have died.

[Greyblades]

Let's talk about your guilt, greyblades.

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions. Something that is actually defendable from instead of "Intuition".

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions.

That sounds a lot like me in Capo II. I was guilty.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki stop bothering me unless you have actual evidence or at least valid suspicions.

If you had to pick two people as your henchmen who would you pick? And would you be Irish or British?

[Greyblades]

I am a little peeved at all the "hunches", "intuition" and "spidey sensing"(Thank you El Diablo) that I have been receiving over my last 4 games. I think Psychonaut did it to me twice for pete's sake.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I attempt to always have valid reasons for voting for someone, as a sign of respect. If I don't have a case to make, then the lynch is random. IRL, If the police had a vague intuition that someone were guilty, but no evidence, I think they wouldn't be able to arrest them. I get voted all the time on little or no evidence, and I shrug it off. However, I've seen right here in this thread, reasonless voting seems to be an effective pressure tactic. And mafia games aren't meant to have due process and fair trials for the scum. And since there is little evidence to go on, this is what we have to do to win.

[LittleGrizzly]

It maybethe things you say... i remember a few players earlier weren't sure about you because of some throw away comment, its best to keep them to a minimum, silly throwaway comments that is.... ive been lynched for a few myself...

If you do keep getting in these situations then the name will echo through some people's minds as someone behaving scummy... without a better option these people will then vote for you...

Also this being the 2nd incident now in this game people will start thinking its too much of a coincidence... im starting to think this...

Also angry defense makes some people suspicious...

[Greyblades]

I know the reasoning and I know its a valid tactic, but knowing that doesnt make it any less annoying.

I think the irony is that I seem to be suspect No.1 and I havent been mafia in a single game yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It maybethe things you say... i remember a few players earlier weren't sure about you because of some throw away comment, its best to keep them to a minimum, silly throwaway comments that is.... ive been lynched for a few myself...

If you do keep getting in these situations then the name will echo through some people's minds as someone behaving scummy... without a better option these people will then vote for you...

Also this being the 2nd incident now in this game people will start thinking its too much of a coincidence... im starting to think this...

Also angry defense makes some people suspicious...

I'm not accusing you, but I find it hilarious that in a post about silly reasons people get voted, you use tons of ellipses. This is one thing I accused TevashSzat of overdoing in Godfather III, and he was mafia. And even though it was a throwaway accusation no one in their right mind could make hay out of, Tevash got so nervous he addressed this silly point in an overdefensive fashion, and even continued to use the excessive ellipses to prove it was normal.

Let's see about those ellipses...

[LittleGrizzly]

I think you'll find almost everyone of my posts contain ellipses

Mafia or backroom stuff... or even the footy thread... i like my set of 3 ellipses...

Infact my last post before the one you quoted contains two sets of three ellipses...

Ohh... wait a second...

You were just laughing at he irony of it rather than accusing...

Ignore my addressing of this silly point in an over defensive fashion ~;)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That was just a throwaway comment, actually...why did you say "stop bothering me" though? I don't think I have been bothering you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

He liked to drink alcohol everyday. Jolt was at bar called Mcdoogals, getting drunk. There was another man who came in to the bar... This man had a perculiar walk, as if he had been shot in the leg once. The man sat at the bar and said hello. Jolt looked at him and said hello... and the man who came in said what are you having. Jolt said Whiskey, of course... My name is Brendan, what's yours? Jolt said they call me Jimmy McJolty I am a loyal Irishman and you? Brendan said I am loyal to my convictions. I fight for the rights of all good Irishmen, and you just sit back and let the english take from us. And he took a bottle and shattered it. then he shoved the sharp glass in to Jolts neck. The men fought like all irish do, but Jolt lost too much blood and died in bar. Then Brendan stood over Jolt who was dying and said Its not personal its just buisness. I think youre a good man but this town would never lynch you. Brendan left his card, and on it said Three Blind Mice.



Donney went to Mcdoogals and ordered a pint. He was wearing green for the holiday.Then Brendan came into the bar and said hello. Seamus looked at him with suspicion... but Brendan just smiled back. What is your name Brendan asked. Donney said they call me Seamus Fermanagh and why is it any busness of yours? Brendan said I am looking to recruit loyal irishmen, can I count on your support? And Seamus said no... I have nothing to do with terrorists. Just then Mairead shot Donney in the arm.

"Agggh, what'd you do that for, ya daughter of a whore loving drunk?"

Donney decided to leave Mcdoogals right then and there, and make sure he got patched up. Brendan just looked around sadly, and decided to leave his card anyway, but now it said Two Blind Mice.Checking the summary thread, posts 5 and 7, we see that someone else uses excessive ellipses. The trouble is, pevergreen also uses tons of ellipses, as do lots of people here. A search of ctrl+f and "..." leads to all the people who overuse ellipses. It's doubly interesting you're doing it again, intentionally, just as TevashSzat did, to prove it's normal for you. However, it is admittedly a ridiculous case. At least it's better than random voting.

I'm looking to see just how common this is. I don't have a whole lot else to do for the next 20 minutes. Then it's the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and I'm not missing that.

[Greyblades]

That was just a throwaway comment, actually...why did you say "stop bothering me" though? I don't think I have been bothering you?

Hmm am i allowed to do this? I'll assume I can due to it not actually hinting at anyones role.

https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7613/sasaki.jpg

Casual comment I dont think.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You're right I have been bothering you :laugh4:

edit: my url avatar is mean...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think your regular avatar is more frightening, but then again, I'm not one to talk.

Wait, I am one to talk. let me rephrase that...I am not even a quarter of the way through the thread, and already I counted 6 players overusing ellipses and several more who use them like candy, but not to a point of really overusing them. As such, it's a bad lead. That was 20 wasted minutes.

Time for Jon Stewart. I'm out. Peace out, homies.


EDIT: Jon Stewart works 4 days a week and has like 6 or 8 weeks of vacation a year... why is tonight's episode a repeat???

[A Very Super Market]

What is that thing anyways?

I would think that overusing ellipses would be less obvious than say... (Bugger. I do that!) regular grammar mistakes? I mean, I think I could narrow down the list of suspects simply through checking how coherent the dialogue is, although one could also easily fake it.

Bah, I've gotten nowhere.

[Greyblades]

...There is no tried and true 100% method of getting a Mafioso is there?

Im guessing its a no?

[Beefy187]

Im guessing its a no?

If there are then they won't even be a game of mafia.

The best we can do is about 50 percent accurate I think

[Reenk Roink]

I have knowledge that Atpg is involved in bad things. Please lynch him.

Also boudica may be acting strange but she has been very busy and also she may prove of much use to me, do not move to lynch her or you may die. Thanks. :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reenk makes no sense to me.

You waited until this late in the round to say so? Why the innuendo? There's only a few hours left. You've claimed, apparently, to be both a vigilante and a detective. If that's the case, you could always kill me yourself. Or you could do a proper reveal, seeing as mairead could defend you.

[Greyblades]

Please lynch him.

Well seeing as you asked so nicely.:wiseguy:

Wait... why are you saying "dont lynch Boudica" if ares is the one with the highest amount of votes? Seriously telling us not to lynch boudica will more likely us actually lynch her... Ah I see what you did there.

[Reenk Roink]

Unvote: Atpg
Vote: boudica

Gonna save Ares! :bow:

Yeah, you got me all figured out Greyblades, what can I say. :shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

LOL Reenk, dang buddy... :laugh2:

You are a master. What can I say? I was just about to post a whole big thing, about how if you were a vigilante you could just take me out yourself, and if you were a detective, you could remain anonymous and send the results through a dead confirmed townie beefy or Taka to Seamus who is being protected, or anyone really, to come forward and accuse me. By the way, if we do have an investigator, please do the above. We can get your information and there is no need to get exposed.

Is there any reason we should save Ares? I have a vote on Sasaki which seems to be doing nothing at the moment.



edit:
I have to head out to grab my mail from the parental unit's house and drop off a movie. I should be back in time.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote: Atpg
Vote: boudica

Gonna save Ares! :bow:

Yeah, you got me all figured out Greyblades, what can I say. :shrug:

Reenk is being Reenk I see......:juggle2: wants to make his vote count....:clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally again. Please recheck.


boudica: 5 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter, shlin28, Reenk)
Ares: 5 (GH, Seamus, Greyblades, FactionHeir, White_Eyes)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Sasaki: 2 (Seireikhaan, ATPG)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (boudica)
Greyblades: 1 (El Diablo)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
YLC: 1 (Ares)

If the pattern holds from yesterday, we have two hours. Time to see who squirms.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:whip: I see lurkers not participating.

[pevergreen]

Patterns hold firm!

Except maybe for today. Still at work, phase ends in around 25 minutes, depending on how long it takes me to post this. I may not be home for a bit. Within 90 minutes of now, anyway.

I close voting/orders at the same time, the writeups take a bit longer, as I do my own vote count. However, yours hasnt been wrong yet ATPG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Interesting timing you have, Ituralde.

Showing up a mere 20 minutes before the lynch. What a coincidence.

[Ituralde]

Glad you noticed that ATPG. Actually I just woke up and five hours of sleep is definetly not cutting it for me. Nice to be greeted by my name though. I'm interested in seeing what pever does in light of another tie. :beam:

Back to sleep...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round is nearly done, I don't think it's boudica. I asked one of the dead innocents, CountArach, what his opinion on the remaining suspects were. He said Ares should be lynched, and I agree. If Ares is innocent, I'll take the blame.

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Ares


And FoS: Ituralde. You're far too interested in the final tally and the start of the night phase to be a basic townie. Interested in the tally, and, you don't seem to want to be the one who gets his hands dirty. What are you hiding, my friend?

[pevergreen]

7 minutes remain.

[Captain Blackadder]

VOTE ARES

Boudica just doesnt give off the scum vibe nearly as much as Ares does so Ares it is.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Missed it by that much, Blackadder... lol

[Captain Blackadder]

Oh well there is always next time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Care to explain why you didn't contribute to the discussion all round? :smash:

You were online a lot today, and Yesterday, 04:06 was the last time you posted here besides this late vote.

[Captain Blackadder]

Mostly because I am in a few games and this is the one that interests me the least the others ones I am in invovle rp to some extent and that makes being a simple townie fun

[pevergreen]

Ares was dismayed to hear his name chosen as the lynch. He had offended pevergreen in the past, and did not really want to know what was going to happen.

pevergreen decreed that he would kill Ares himself. He took Ares away from the others and began telling a story.
"Let me tell you about that time I took the ferry over to Shelbyville; I needed a new heel for my shoe. So, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have any white onions, because of the war; the only thing you can get was those big yellow ones."

Ares head had exploded midway through the story.


Alive:
Andres
Captain Blackadder
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Lord Winter
White Eyes
Seamus
Factionheir
serierkhaan
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades
Ituralde
El Diablo
YLC

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777

Tally:
Ares: 6 (GH, Seamus, Greyblades, FactionHeir, White_Eyes, ATPGuy)
boudica: 5 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter, shlin28, Reenk)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Sasaki: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (boudica)
Greyblades: 1 (El Diablo)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
YLC: 1 (Ares)

It is now Night 4, orders please.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oy... :wall:

In my defense, no one else was here or willing to break the tie, and I waited and waited. Could have been a no lynch or a runoff or a double lynch or a random lynch. I apologize.

Need better suspects to choose from next time. I suggest we take a strong look at these late bloomers who showed up purely to see how the lynch would end, but wouldn't take responsibility. Or perhaps Sigurd, who has two whole posts, even though he's been here every day all week. Or me, because I saved boudica, and that will make Reenk very angry with me.

[pevergreen]

Or perhaps Sigurd, who has two whole posts, even though he's been here every day all week. Or me, because I saved boudica, and that will make Reenk very angry with me.

I would be dissapointed if you lynched a mod for being swamped IRL.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mmm. But others were WOGed, and to be fair, Sigurd has found the time to post in other games.

[pevergreen]

I'll be expecting activity soon, but there were other reasons to wog those I did.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mmmm... controversy... https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/DROOL-1.gif

[LittleGrizzly]

On the ellipses ATPG... i use them in almost every post i make... without looking at mafia games sign ups... (or really small messages) all my posts contain the 3 ellipses...

If you going to lynch me for using ellipses you may as well lynch me for my nick being Grizz...

If it is because the mafia write up's similarly use ellipses then that is a fair point. I would say that it would be simple for me to not use ellipses... but changing my writing style to mask it... probably wouldn't be possible for me...

Ok so we have been useless at lynching up to now... lets hope for an improvment next round...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, I was joking before, but you're seriously just adding ellipses after everything you say. And I had almost forgotten all about that, until you brought it up. And I don't buy that you couldn't change your writing style to mask it because it's impossible. It's as simple as not pushing the "." button in triplicate after every thought. :clown: This is not like a verbal handicap that you're born with and cannot overcome. Still, you've been around the block and I doubt you'd be so careless. Surely your mafia buddies would have noticed it before you sent it in, especially after the first round. So I am not accusing you.




7am, bedtime for all the little pizza guys and all the little pizza girls who make life so tasty.

[LittleGrizzly]

Ok, I was joking before, but you're seriously just adding ellipses after everything you say.

I may have been slightly more aware of it... and thus using it more but not much more than i usually do anyway!

And I don't buy that you couldn't change your writing style to mask it because it's impossible. It's as simple as not pushing the "." button in triplicate after every thought.

That was kind of my point, it would be absolutely simple for me to not add ... the thing i was saying i would find it very had to mask is my writing style... as in the way a write... in kind of a thinking out loud format i think... TBH its kind of the way i talk as well...

Sorry fairly pointless post as i know your not accusing me... i just wanted to clarify that point incase someone trys to hang me with it later...

[pevergreen]

I know I use an ellipse to articulate a pause in the way I talk.

Say for Horatio at the end of CSI: Miami

So I think...he punched his last time card. *puts glasses back on*
So I think...we've got our man. *puts glasses back on*

[boudica]

Thanks for not lynching me. Boo to those of you who nearly did. It would have been just as much a waste for town as lynching Ares was.