A Bridge Zhou Far - Three Stars Rising [Concluded]

[Sigurd]

...Heck. You even care enough to make a post trying to defend yourself when everyone knows you're a Japanese? But don't you worry, because you and Renata are not long to last. The KMT now knows who you Japanese are thanks to our information, so now the axe will fall.
Everybody knows I am Japanese?
I am Japanese according to two KMT deadbeats and a supposedly guilty investigation by a Japanese controlled officer corps.
That is the entirety of your facts - which doesn't hold water. And the KMT knows who the Japanese are alright - they are currently removing two as we speak.
I do not doubt a minute that the KMT will seize the moment when two Japanese dies in this uprising against Imperialistic dictatorship.

And just a second...
Wasn't it you who claimed the Japanese outnumbered the KMT? How is it then the Japanese should worry about the KMT?
Your lies is biting your heals and the hole you are digging are getting bigger and inescapable.

[Captain Blackadder]

unvote vote renata

Seriously I cannot see how we haven't lost allready since I cannot believe that actual townies would be so stupid as to not vote for people who are well and truely confirmed to be scum. The only answer can be that you are all scum and we townies have lost.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote vote renata

Seriously I cannot see how we haven't lost allready since I cannot believe that actual townies would be so stupid as to not vote for people who are well and truely confirmed to be scum. The only answer can be that you are all scum and we townies have lost.

You're almost 5 hours past the deadline.

[Captain Blackadder]

Oh well looks like the japanese or kmt have won congraulations scum on your victory.

[Jolt]

Who are the KMT?

Ah, I'm sure you'd like to know that, wouldn't you?

[Splitpersonality]

Ah, I'm sure you'd like to know that, wouldn't you?

Yes I'm sure both townies AND Japs would like to know.

Both of which would kill the KMT.


Isn't that a good thing?

[Jolt]

Yes I'm sure both townies AND Japs would like to know.

Both of which would kill the KMT.


Isn't that a good thing?

Since now only a miracle would make the town win the game, you're talking about telling the Japs who the KMTs are, and they already have an advantage as is.

[Captain Blackadder]

Yes I'm sure both townies AND Japs would like to know.

Both of which would kill the KMT.


Isn't that a good thing?

Ok then Split since you are a jap here is how you find out who the kmt are look at who voted for revolt and Jolt if they are not your fellow Japs they are kmt for they are certainly not townies at least I hope not for I do not believe a townie could actually be that stupid.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did anyone ever find the Hairy man?

I admit I lost track of that storyline in all the others.

[naut]

Did anyone ever find the Hairy man?
He's here with me baking cookies in heaven.

[Romanic]

Hairy Man activity:

Night 3: Killed taka and Beskar.
Night 7: Killed Arpeg and CDF.

That's it! We haven't heard from him since N7. Hmmm... maybe he's dead after all, and amongst corpses waiting for investigation (khaan, Joooray, Romanic :smug2:, wew, AVSM, landlubber, and autolycus)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hairy Man activity:

Night 3: Killed taka and Beskar.
Night 7: Killed Arpeg and CDF.

That's it! We haven't heard from him since N7. Hmmm... maybe he's dead after all, and amongst corpses waiting for investigation (khaan, Joooray, Romanic :smug2:, wew, AVSM, landlubber, and autolycus)

That's not very reassuring, actually.

[DELETE_THIS]

I cannot believe that actual townies would be so stupid

Hey! Some of us have feelings you know... :(

[Subotan]

Deadline reached. The update will be some time coming, as I'm going out to meet my seven and four year old cousins in fifteen minutes :tongue:

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Deadline reached. The update will be some time coming, as I'm going out to meet my seven and four year old cousins in fifteen minutes :tongue:

But yet you still won't meet me for a drink and a catch up :'(

I'm upset and offended.

[Captain Blackadder]

Hey! Some of us have feelings you know... :(

You are not included in that comment because you are either a jap or KMT thus you are doing excatly what I thought you would do.

[Double A]

Great, I got here 5 hours too late.

If anyone who cares wants an explanation:

I slept late yesterday, then my dad took me to go see some of his friends. We then went out to dinner and saw a band play. The band was amazing, and played till 1. I was so tired when I got home I just went to sleep without checking the org. Yeah, sorry.

[Subotan]

But yet you still won't meet me for a drink and a catch up :'(

I'm upset and offended.
Hey! I'm still up for that!

Commencing write-up.

[Subotan]

Crap, I had an excellent write-up written; but I pressed the back button on my browser, nd it was ALL ERASED :furious3::furious3::furious3::furious3::furious3:


I shall write another one tomorrow, but in the meantime, let it be known that GH has been executed and all of the Officer Corps have been deposed. It is now a new election phase; if you want, you can elect to dissolve the Chairman's (and by definition, all of the town power roles) office by posting Elect:Dissolve

[Romanic]

Crap, I had an excellent write-up written; but I pressed the back button on my browser, nd it was ALL ERASED :furious3::furious3::furious3::furious3::furious3:


:bigcry:




I shall write another one tomorrow, but in the meantime, let it be known that GH has been executed and all of the Officer Corps have been deposed. It is now a new election phase; if you want, you can elect to dissolve the Chairman's (and by definition, all of the town power roles) office by posting Elect:Dissolve

The revolt was successful?!

The tally I have shows 6 revolt votes (ATPG, DiY, Double A, Nictel, Renata, Sigurd). There's 13 players alive, so 12 if we don't count GH. 6/12 shouldn't be enough. Where my mistake?

[Askthepizzaguy]

if you want, you can elect to dissolve the Chairman's (and by definition, all of the town power roles) office by posting Elect:Dissolve


But what soldier would have the courage to propose such a radical amendment? :uhoh2:

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Elect: Dissolve


We no longer need to be babysat by some dictator. I have confidence in my comrades' abilities to lead themselves without being herded like sheep. Soldiers, fellow revolutionaries, the people believe in the Communist party for a reason: they believe in an egalitarian society where the people govern themselves. By creating political parties and granting them special powers over the rest of us, we are removing one tyrant and replacing him with another, rendering our efforts useless.

Trust in me, my brothers. We don't have to answer to some incompetent, corrupt leader anymore. Tonight, we forge a new destiny. Tonight, the empires of old will be washed away like gutter filth, and a new nation will rise from the ashes of the fallen; a people united by the belief that a truly fair, equitable society recognizes no rank, rewards no greed, and tolerates no injustice.

ONE CHINA. ONE SOCIETY!!!!

[Romanic]

Go away with your old caucasian muppet! This is China! :chinese:

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And don't be too quick to dissolve the officers, I demand a recount of the votes! 6 of 12 is not enough to revolt successfully.

[Pinman]

To revolt, the town needs a majority of non-officer votes.

The 6 votes in question qualify as such.

[Romanic]

Really?

The rules don't mention that only non-officer votes counts. Are you sure about this?


Should the Marxists realize that their Chairman is a traitor, or incompetent, then they may Revolt against him, in addition to their lynch orders. If a majority of players agree to Revolt, then the Chairman is deposed and executed, along with the lynch target of the day. Instead of then proceeding to a night phase, a new election is held.

[Double A]

Dissolving actually wouldn't be too bad, the mafia is just as likely to be put into office as an honest Chinese.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Shoot, I came in here all happy because I made $1.50 at the casino (and spent 15 dollars to celebrate at a restaurant) and I see that I lose my job. I'll still be a minion for the mafia as long as I keep my job.

[Splitpersonality]

Elect: Splitpersonality

[Double A]

Wait, you lost your job? O.o

[a completely inoffensive name]

Elect: Dissolve

[a completely inoffensive name]

Wait, you lost your job? O.o

As the second in command, yes.

[Double A]

Oh, yeah, that's a bit different...

[a completely inoffensive name]

Oh, yeah, that's a bit different...

lol I don't have a real life job. I'm enjoying a summer without work for once before heading to college.

[DELETE_THIS]

Let me begin by saying thanks to all you who've traveled, from far and wide, to brave the cold today.
We all made this journey for a reason. It's humbling, but in my heart I know you didn't come here just for me, you came here because you believe in what this country can be. In the face of war, you believe there can be peace. In the face of despair, you believe there can be hope. In the face of a politics that's shut you out, that's told you to settle, that's divided us for too long, you believe we can be one people, reaching for what's possible, building that more perfect union.

That's the journey we're on today. But let me tell you how I came to be here. As most of you know, I am not a native of this great state. I moved to Peking over two decades ago. I was a young man then, just a year out of college; I knew no one in Shanghai, was without money or family connections. But a group of churches had offered me a job as a community organizer for $13,000 a year. And

I accepted the job, sight unseen, motivated then by a single, simple, powerful idea - that I might play a small part in building a better China.

My work took me to some of Shanghai's poorest neighborhoods. I joined with pastors and lay-people to deal with communities that had been ravaged by plant closings. I saw that the problems people faced weren't simply local in nature - that the decision to close a steel mill was made by distant executives; that the lack of textbooks and computers in schools could be traced to the skewed priorities of politicians a thousand miles away; and that when a child turns to violence, there's a hole in his heart no government could ever fill.

It was in these neighborhoods that I received the best education I ever had, and where I learned the true meaning of my Communist faith. After three years of this work, I went to law school, because I wanted to understand how the law should work for those in need. I became a civil rights lawyer, and taught constitutional law, and after a time, I came to understand that our cherished rights of liberty and equality depend on the active participation of an awakened electorate. It was with these ideas in mind that I arrived in this capital city as a state Senator.

It was here, in Somewherefield, where I saw all that is China converge - farmers and teachers, businessmen and laborers, all of them with a story to tell, all of them seeking a seat at the table, all of them clamoring to be heard. I made lasting friendships here - friends that I see in the audience today.

It was here we learned to disagree without being disagreeable - that it's possible to compromise so long as you know those principles that can never be compromised; and that so long as we're willing to listen to each other, we can assume the best in people instead of the worst.

That's why we were able to reform a death penalty system that was broken. That's why we were able to give health insurance to children in need. That's why we made the tax system more fair and just for working families, and that's why we passed ethics reforms that the cynics said could never, ever be passed.

It was here, in Somewherefield, where North, South, East and West come together that I was reminded of the essential decency of the Chinese people - where I came to believe that through this decency, we can build a more hopeful China.

And that is why, in the shadow of the Old State Capitol, where Yin once called on a divided house to stand together, where common hopes and common dreams still, I stand before you today to announce my candidacy for President of Communist China. I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness - a certain audacity - to this announcement. I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Bejing. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Bejing must change.

The genius of our founders is that they designed a system of government that can be changed. And we should take heart, because we've changed this country before. In the face of tyranny, a band of patriots brought an Empire to its knees. In the face of secession, we unified a nation and set the captives free. In the face of Depression, we put people back to work and lifted millions out of poverty. We welcomed immigrants to our shores, we opened railroads to the west, we landed a man on the moon, and we heard a King's call to let justice roll down like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream.

Each and every time, a new generation has risen up and done what's needed to be done. Today we are called once more - and it is time for our generation to answer that call.

For that is our unyielding faith - that in the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it.

That's what Yin understood. He had his doubts. He had his defeats. He had his setbacks. But through his will and his words, he moved a nation and helped free a people. It is because of the millions who rallied to his cause that we are no longer divided, North and South, slave and free. It is because men and women of every race, from every walk of life, continued to march for freedom long after Yin was laid to rest, that today we have the chance to face the challenges of this millennium together, as one people - as Americans.

All of us know what those challenges are today - a war with no end, a dependence on oil that threatens our future, schools where too many children aren't learning, and families struggling paycheck to paycheck despite working as hard as they can. We know the challenges. We've heard them. We've talked about them for years.

What's stopped us from meeting these challenges is not the absence of sound policies and sensible plans. What's stopped us is the failure of leadership, the smallness of our politics - the ease with which we're distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions, our preference for scoring cheap political points instead of rolling up our sleeves and building a working consensus to tackle big problems.

For the last six years we've been told that our mounting debts don't matter, we've been told that the anxiety Chinese feel about rising health care costs and stagnant wages are an illusion, we've been told that climate change is a hoax, and that tough talk and an ill-conceived war can replace diplomacy, and strategy, and foresight. And when all else fails, when Tsunami happens, or the death toll in Japan mounts, we've been told that our crises are somebody else's fault. We're distracted from our real failures, and told to blame the other party, or gay people, or immigrants.

And as people have looked away in disillusionment and frustration, we know what's filled the void. The cynics, and the lobbyists, and the special interests who've turned our government into a game only they can afford to play. They write the checks and you get stuck with the bills, they get the access while you get to write a letter, they think they own this government, but we're here today to take it back. The time for that politics is over. It's time to turn the page.

We've made some progress already. I was proud to help lead the fight in Peoples House that led to the most sweeping ethics reform since Jadegate.

But Bejing has a long way to go. And it won't be easy. That's why we'll have to set priorities. We'll have to make hard choices. And although government will play a crucial role in bringing about the changes we need, more money and programs alone will not get us where we need to go. Each of us, in our own lives, will have to accept responsibility - for instilling an ethic of achievement in our children, for adapting to a more competitive economy, for strengthening our communities, and sharing some measure of sacrifice. So let us begin. Let us begin this hard work together. Let us transform this nation.

Let us be the generation that reshapes our economy to compete in the digital age. Let's set high standards for our schools and give them the resources they need to succeed. Let's recruit a new army of teachers, and give them better pay and more support in exchange for more accountability. Let's make college more affordable, and let's invest in scientific research, and let's lay down broadband lines through the heart of inner cities and rural towns all across China.

And as our economy changes, let's be the generation that ensures our nation's workers are sharing in our prosperity. Let's protect the hard-earned benefits their companies have promised. Let's make it possible for hardworking Chinese to save for retirement. And let's allow our unions and their organizers to lift up this country's middle class again.

Let's be the generation that ends poverty in China. Every single person willing to work should be able to get job training that leads to a job, and earn a living wage that can pay the bills, and afford child care so their kids have a safe place to go when they work. Let's do this.

Let's be the generation that finally tackles our health care crisis. We can control costs by focusing on prevention, by providing better treatment to the chronically ill, and using technology to cut the bureaucracy. Let's be the generation that says right here, right now, that we will have universal health care in China by the end of the next president's first term.

Let's be the generation that finally frees Chinaa from the tyranny of oil. We can harness homegrown, alternative fuels like ethanol and spur the production of more fuel-efficient cars. We can set up a system for capping greenhouse gases. We can turn this crisis of global warming into a moment of opportunity for innovation, and job creation, and an incentive for businesses that will serve as a model for the world.

Let's be the generation that makes future generations proud of what we did here.

Most of all, let's be the generation that never forgets what happened on that September day and confront the terrorists with everything we've got. Politics doesn't have to divide us on this anymore - we can work together to keep our country safe. I've worked with ommunist Member Di Lu to pass a law that will secure and destroy some of the world's deadliest, unguarded weapons. We can work together to track terrorists down with a stronger military, we can tighten the net around their finances, and we can improve our intelligence capabilities. But let us also understand that ultimate victory against our enemies will come only by rebuilding our alliances and exporting those ideals that bring hope and opportunity to millions around the globe.

But all of this cannot come to pass until we bring an end to this war in Iraq. Most of you know I opposed this war from the start. I thought it was a tragic mistake. Today we grieve for the families who have lost loved ones, the hearts that have been broken, and the young lives that could have been. China, it's time to start bringing our troops home. It's time to admit that no amount of Chinese lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war. That's why I have a plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 1945. Letting the Japanese know that we will not be there forever is our last, best hope to pressure the Sunni and Shia to come to the table and find peace.

Finally, there is one other thing that is not too late to get right about this war - and that is the homecoming of the men and women - our veterans - who have sacrificed the most. Let us honor their valor by providing the care they need and rebuilding the military they love. Let us be the generation that begins this work.

I know there are those who don't believe we can do all these things. I understand the skepticism. After all, every four years, candidates from both parties make similar promises, and I expect this year will be no different. All of us running for president will travel around the country offering ten-point plans and making grand speeches; all of us will trumpet those qualities we believe make us uniquely qualified to lead the country. But too many times, after the election is over, and the confetti is swept away, all those promises fade from memory, and the lobbyists and the special interests move in, and people turn away, disappointed as before, left to struggle on their own.

That is why this campaign can't only be about me. It must be about us - it must be about what we can do together. This campaign must be the occasion, the vehicle, of your hopes, and your dreams. It will take your time, your energy, and your advice - to push us forward when we're doing right, and to let us know when we're not. This campaign has to be about reclaiming the meaning of citizenship, restoring our sense of common purpose, and realizing that few obstacles can withstand the power of millions of voices calling for change.

By ourselves, this change will not happen. Divided, we are bound to fail.

But the life of a tall, gangly, self-made Somewherefield lawyer tells us that a different future is possible.

He tells us that there is power in words.

He tells us that there is power in conviction.

That beneath all the differences of race and region, faith and station, we are one people.

He tells us that there is power in hope.

As Lincoln organized the forces arrayed against slavery, he was heard to say: "Of strange, discordant, and even hostile elements, we gathered from the four winds, and formed and fought to battle through."

That is our purpose here today.

That's why I'm in this race.

Not just to hold an office, but to gather with you to transform a nation.

I want to win that next battle - for justice and opportunity.

I want to win that next battle - for better schools, and better jobs, and health care for all.

I want us to take up the unfinished business of perfecting our union, and building a better America.

And if you will join me in this improbable quest, if you feel destiny calling, and see as I see, a future of endless possibility stretching before us; if you sense, as I sense, that the time is now to shake off our slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe past and future generations, then I'm ready to take up the cause, and march with you, and work with you.

Together, starting today, let us finish the work that needs to be done, and usher in a new birth of freedom on this Earth.

Elect: Nictel

[Captain Blackadder]

That's the journey we're on today. But let me tell you how I came to be here. As most of you know, I am not a native of this great state. I moved to Peking over two decades ago. I was a young man then, just a year out of college; I knew no one in Shanghai, was without money or family connections. But a group of churches had offered me a job as a community organizer for $13,000 a year. And


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A group of churches you say. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions. Why do you even try to present yourself as a loyal communist when you are a member of the group that makes it so that the people are opressed by the ruling classes.

[Captain Blackadder]

Just in case there are any rules about editing posts.

It is clear to me there are no more loyal communists in this party at this current time. No one deserves to sully the name of Mao and of communism by being leader when they are clearly KMT or Japanese thus I vote as a loyal communist that the leadership be dissovled and may the party show us the way forward so that constant class strugal may continue against the forces of Capitalism.

Vote Dissolve

[Sigurd]

Why are you dissolving the very tools that will enable you to stop the very forces bearing down on us?
You are removing an investigator role - that will enable you to find scum.
You are removing a blocker role - which will enable you to neutralise known scum.
You are removing a doctor role - which will save a townie in dire straits.
You are removing a tracker role - which will as in Nictel's instance, find scum in other places than they are supposed to be.

Without the pro-town roles -the town have doomed themselves. It will be a rat's race to the finish between the KMT and the Japs.
Dissolving the leadership positions is not a pro-town move.

[Captain Blackadder]

We have allready lost the forces that move against us are too strong there are not enough good communists to fill the roles and I would rather die then allow any KMT or Jap to have accsess to the secret information that the leadership has. Whilst we may die the rest of the movement will remain strong for they will not be infultraited by those who will say they rooted out the psies when they are in fact spies themselves. Regardless of what we do we have failed why just yesterday we discovered a member of the scum and yet he still lives and instead one of the great leaders is dead. So regardless of what occurs from now there is not hope for the PEXDET.

[Jolt]

Why are you dissolving the very tools that will enable you to stop the very forces bearing down on us?
You are removing an investigator role - that will enable you to find scum.
You are removing a blocker role - which will enable you to neutralise known scum.
You are removing a doctor role - which will save a townie in dire straits.
You are removing a tracker role - which will as in Nictel's instance, find scum in other places than they are supposed to be.

Without the pro-town roles -the town have doomed themselves. It will be a rat's race to the finish between the KMT and the Japs.
Dissolving the leadership positions is not a pro-town move.

The officers' QT has the names of who is Japanese and who is KMT. As of now, all trusted townies already have the namesof the Japanese (Like you) and the KMT. I'd say if the town wants to have a chance then they won't give that information to you guys who revolted.

[Renata]

By refusing to re-form the leadership, Jolt, ACIN and Seamus open themselves up to recruitment. ACIN has claimed Jolt to be immune, but what of the other two? Can we even believe it about you, Jolt? One thing's certain: if some of you are counter-revolutionaries, then recruitment is not a concern for you, but the information in that QT most certainly is -- you will not want the other side to have access to it. Nor will you want to pack the leadership with your own cronies and your own cronies only -- you've already seen what that gets you, when the town and the opposing scum team up to take you out.

Nictel, there is no way on earth I am voting to elect you. As far as I'm concerned right now, the tracker, having directly outed two known KMT and one known Japanese, has a better claim to towniness than anyone else, and that makes you the top suspect. Though I do appreciate your campaign speech.

[Double A]

Vote: Dissolve

Officer core would probably be infiltrated by either Japs or KMT, due to the increasing number of... uh... casualties.

[Splitpersonality]

The officers' QT has the names of who is Japanese and who is KMT. As of now, all trusted townies already have the namesof the Japanese (Like you) and the KMT. I'd say if the town wants to have a chance then they won't give that information to you guys who revolted.

I wonder why GH would bother offering me an officer's position if he didn't believe me a trusted man, or a townie.

[Jolt]

I wonder why GH would bother offering me an officer's position if he didn't believe me a trusted man, or a townie.

You'll find out at the end game. :P

[Splitpersonality]

You'll find out at the end game. :P

Probably to get me killed by everyone revolting with me eh?

That still doesn't make me japanese :laugh4:

[Jolt]

As I was saying to a certain KMT, after I was dead:

Vote: Revolt is basically a key to say "I'm Mafia guys! Everyone look at me!"

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

As I was saying to a certain KMT, after I was dead:

Vote: Revolt is basically a key to say "I'm Mafia guys! Everyone look at me!"

I wasn't mafia and I revolted, that only got me killed by the hairy man, which begs the question: who out of the leadership was the hairy man?

[Jolt]

I wasn't mafia and I revolted, that only got me killed by the hairy man, which begs the question: who out of the leadership was the hairy man?

I wasn't in the officership when you revolted. And that is my personal opinion, completely true so far woth one or two exceptions. Regardless, I can't say who is/was the Hairy Man either, as I'm dead.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I wasn't in the officership when you revolted. And that is my personal opinion, completely true so far woth one or two exceptions. Regardless, I can't say who is/was the Hairy Man either, as I'm dead.

There are so many mysteries about this game that I'm dying to have answered. Just. So. Many.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm also not mafia and I voted revolt.


Though my cohorts I cannot speak so assuredly of.

*looks at ATPG*

:l

[GeneralHankerchief]

Argh, I picked a great time for my laptop to go belly-up.

I know pretty much everything that's happened in this game, but I'll stay silent as a matter of propriety as well as practicality. Look out for my role reveal in three days, everyone. :wink:

[Jolt]

I'm also not mafia and I voted revolt.

:laugh4:

Actually, you are just another example that proves what I said.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The only person I had faith in to be the next leader was Split, and he..... he..... abandoned me.

To GH of all people.

For shame, Split. Especially once you find out who I was, and who he was.

[seireikhaan]

Dissolve the leadership. Do not let it fall into the hands of Sigurd and Nictel, at the very least. Please, have at least some dignity about this debacle.

[Subotan]

In the aftermath of the Chairman's death, the Communists prepared to elect a new leader. However, instead of appointing someone with the talent and skills required to lead the Revolutionaries to utopia, the Socialists decided to dismantle the Party apparatus, for fear of another infiltration. That didn't stop certain Maoists from trying, with Nictel in particular making a long and stirring speech. However, his repeated references to Beijing as the capital (When it is clearly Nanking) and allegations of Rightist thought prevented him from achieving that post.

It is now the Night phase. This phase shall end in 22 hours at 22:00 GMT+1

Alive: 12/40

ACIN
ATPG
Captain Blackadder
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
Jolt
Nictel
Renata
Seamus Fermanagh
Sigurd
Split


Lynched players 12/40

Azathoth
Beefy187
shlin28
Niklas
Pinman
TheFlax
YLC
miotas
M3YUZ
Romanic
Joooray
landlubber

Killed Players 12/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
taka
Beskar
Chaotix
Psychonaut
johnhughthom
Secura
CDF
aThis
Yaesikhaan
wideyedwanderer
autolycus

Devoured by Rats/Consumed by Flames - 3

Thermal Mercury
Wishazu
AVSM

Deposed - 1

GeneralHankerchief

[a completely inoffensive name]

Alright this is pointless for any town people at this point.

[Renata]

You can commit suicide if you're still pretending to be town. The technical term is sepuku, I think.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Looking over my mountain of PM's ovr the past 5 hours, I had the perfect opportunity to survive but there is a good chance I have thrown it away. Maybe there was something to that accusation of masochism...

[naut]

You can commit suicide if you're still pretending to be town. The technical term is sepuku, I think.
Haha. Only if you committed suicide would I call it sepuku.

[Cute Wolf]

Yeah, at least, there was only few good townies left and this game was allready become KMT vs Japanese....
or something else, more insidious, also lurking inside?

[Captain Blackadder]

Go hairy man go may you be hiding in the shadows.

[Cute Wolf]

KMT vs japanese vs a mad serial killer then....

[Double A]

So the town's all dead Cute Wolf? I'm sure you and your buddies worked very hard for that.

[Joooray]

Man, what a chaos. :laugh4:

I'm kinda happy I'm already dead. :wink:

[Double A]

Chaos = fun.

[Cute Wolf]

hmm... next time, either KMT or Japanese must be all dead... this is CHAOSSS!!!!!

[a completely inoffensive name]

wow, this is going to suck for me. I'm going to comic con, so I have to do all of this by phone for the next 5 days.

[seireikhaan]

Subotan, we going to have a writeup soon?

[Captain Blackadder]

Whats going on with the write up?

[Jolt]

Whats going on with the write up?

The American Imperialists have nuked Yan'an! :O We're all dead!

[Jolt]

So, is the game cancelled? : (

Well, at least the town doesn't lose.

[Captain Blackadder]

Very disappointing since the game was so close to hitting a conclusion. How much longer should we wait before revealing all?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Very disappointing since the game was so close to hitting a conclusion. How much longer should we wait before revealing all?

I'd give it another week. I do believe given the low numbers of people remaining, plus the fact that it is delayed, means that the next person in line with a large game should be given the go-ahead to go.

However it is up to our esteemed moderators.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I do believe that Subo is unfortunately going on holiday sometime soon, maybe even now. This may be the reason for lack of write-ups.

Of course, don't quote me on that, it's the reason he gave me for not taking part in Roving Elves.

EDIT: I last spoke to him two days ago, and he last checked into...eurgghhh....Facebook...two days ago.

I doubt he'd just leave like this though, I'm sure he'd at least say something.

[seireikhaan]

Three more days, or 72 hours from now. Its already been a week since the last update. I feel like this is pretty lenient, but there's gotta be a prod. If it weren't so close to completion it would be closed by now.

[Cute Wolf]

Three more days, or 72 hours from now. Its already been a week since the last update. I feel like this is pretty lenient, but there's gotta be a prod. If it weren't so close to completion it would be closed by now.

some wild serial killer-assassin who kills some men would not be pleased with closure I think...

[Jolt]

some wild serial killer-assassin who kills some men would not be pleased with closure I think...

If he were alive, then he still would be a long way off from winning the game in any case.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I'm back from Comic-Con, looks like I missed nothing.

[Double A]

Three more days, or 72 hours from now. Its already been a week since the last update. I feel like this is pretty lenient, but there's gotta be a prod. If it weren't so close to completion it would be closed by now.

He said he had a write-up but it got deleted because the Internet was griefing him. Does that count?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ok then, looks like the 2 months I put into this was pointless.

[seireikhaan]

Another thirty six hours... if there's no update, open game will be declared on the thread.

[Jolt]

First post-game revelation:

Yes, I was a townie, and yes, everyone who revolted are Mafia.

[Joooray]

It would suck to see this game go out like that. :sad:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Congrats Subo, to the game that would have been but never was.

[Renata]

I had fun. I wish it had had a chance to play out.

[Beskar]

Who attacked me night one and night two?

[Double A]

All Subo has to do is post results... I hope he gets back from wherever he is. How dare he have fun!

[Secura]

everyone who revolted are Mafia.

I would have revolted and I was vanilla. :P

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I would have revolted and I was vanilla. :P

I tried revolting but got killed by the Guy That Needs A Shave.

[miotas]

You're all revolting.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I revolt at the fact the Subo has left this game hanging without notice.

Vote: Subo

(I really want to know the roles behind this game)

EDIT: Even though I'm dead. Hey, poltergeists have feelings too. Especially leftie ones.

[Captain Blackadder]

I was a member of the secret police tasked to help pexdet achieve its goals. Thus I was the person you all knew as the tracker and I had managed to get quite a few scum in the lead up to the end of the game.

[Renata]

I was a member of the secret police tasked to help pexdet achieve its goals. Thus I was the person you all knew as the tracker and I had managed to get quite a few scum in the lead up to the end of the game.

Ah. I was right about one thing.

[Captain Blackadder]

Ah. I was right about one thing.

How did you pick me?

[Renata]

Two main things: about a day into our South Bank isolation I realized you were the only person on the South Bank other than the officers and Cute Wolf who had to my knowledge never been in a protection group. Yet GH never once referred to you as a possible suspect -- he was dead silent on that issue. I also knew that Seamus was not responsible for ACIN's protection; he was doing something considered even more important. To me that said "CB is the tracker".

Later, Pizzaguy reminded me I had no idea what the Special Operative did, and after that I wasn't as sure it was you and not that role, though you were obviously still something worth GH's protection.

[seireikhaan]

Well, its already started, but I'll make it official- open game on the thread. Subo's had a stupendous amount of time.

As Special Operative, my ability was to target one player at night, then control their vote for the next day phase. I was quite bummed with how this turned out. I was indeed a communist. I was a Kung Fu Sifu, and could use my martial arts in a night vig attempt to render the defender's resistances to any weapons null and void. I did still need to attack in group. Unfortunately... by becoming the Spec. Op. I was forced to use that ability, and wasn't allowed to do anything else at night. :shrug:


And yeah, pretty much everyone revolting was KMT and Japanese.

[Cute Wolf]

oh yeah, and I was actually a mad serial killer who kills most of the "pointless victims" :grin: ... oh yeah, and "false flag" ability, means that first time I was scanned in 3 sucession, I will be scanned as "vengevul avenger" but actually I have no side and just ordered to kill everyone..... :devil:

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAA........



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(BBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

no, I wasn't the hairy man, I was another serial killer who always kill people pointlessly at random night, without bomb

[Splitpersonality]

Bummed that this ended like this, I really wanted the town to continue not trusting me :furious3:



Seriously though, I was a townie, but I was not Chineese. I'm a Korean who was looking to bring socialism to my country.

My ethnicity of course made me a suspect, if I was ever investigated by anyone, I would be revealed as guilty (Miller), but I was very much for the town.

I was convinced by ATPG (yet again) that revolting was a good idea, and I was convinced I needed to save the town by myself, and mistook ATPG for an ally again.


edit:
Deleted my role PM by mistake, or I would post it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was the Koumintang Colonel, and our team had a rough, rough game.

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/XyA3uvCFiBu8


Early on, "Zeus"/Thermal Mercury was totally inactive, and the remaining KMT were Nictel and someone who died really early. It was pretty grim. Then we lost people to the tracker, and I joined the game as Zeus.

Nictel and I were desperate, and I suggested blind conversion (EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, seeing as only a few people could have possibly been converted to our camp). We managed to recruit Double A this way before we separated and went to the North Bank.

On the North Bank, I knew we were caught since GH suggested that his main suspects were over here. At first my idea was to scan for recruits, but after we lynched the inactive M3YUZ there weren't any remaining.

So it was time to murder someone, and reduce the strength of the town. By this time we had basically figured we were screwed as there was no way to oust GH and we were losing people so fast. So we thought about going out in a blaze of glory to aid the Japanese, maybe they would win.

Well, when we rejoined, the Admin finally came out against Renata and Sigurd, and my whole idea was to resist all administration attempts to get rid of further suspects. It was I who suggested to my team to leave their votes where they were when Renata was accused; and after I was spared by the admin during the lynch on landlubber, my entire team and Sigurd were included in the vig attempt on Renata, which we also foiled at my request.

Then, it was time to overthrow the General. I figured that Renata and Sigurd were Japanese by this point for sure, so we bull-spitted each other back and forth saying how awful GH was for the town, and how those delayed investigation results were harmful and potentially scummy, and unanimously agreed it was time to oppose the administration.

Seamus being inactive that round was an unexpected bonus. Khaan being dead was also a bonus since he could have put a stop to that whole effort. Yay.

With the admin gone, all the scums voted to cancel any future Chairmanship. I offered a draw to Renata and Sigurd, which if they accepted I would have made official, and had they not, we would have converted ACIN and vigilante killed Renata that very night.

No hard feelings; I did attempt to go for a draw. And yay, we got one by default.

I believe given the circumstances, we can all say we played a good game. :bow: We came back from the brink of defeat, to go into a 2/3 Jap, 3/4 KMT endgame where the townies were already keen on vig killing Japanese.

I can't call that a victory because it didn't quite happen, so I will call it a draw. Good job, Japanese Imperialists! Good job, Chinese Nationalists! Well-fought, PEXDET!

[Renata]

Are you serious, cute wolf? Because I actually did get full investigation results on you and it just said loyal commie. Was I just whooshed?

Anyway -- of course I was Japanese, the Kempeitai Colonel. Sigurd and YLC were my officers, and we picked up DiY as a recruit right at the end. I attacked you Night One, Beskar.

Many thanks to Pizzaguy for saving our bacon twice over, and also to GH for allowing it to happen like it did. ;)

Was a fun game, if frequently aggravating. But then they all are. As my first chance to play as part of a mafia team in eons, it was fairly rewarding. There were some nice moments.

Oh yes, our QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/w6PErEP3FPtr. Feel free to be greatly amused. :beam:

[Double A]

@ Everyone who thinks I'm a Jap: you lose
@ Everyone who thinks I'm townie: you DEFINITELY lose
@ Everyone who thinks GH is something other than the Hairy Man: super lose

[seireikhaan]

@ Everyone who thinks GH is something other than the Hairy Man: super lose
That's what made the revolt round rather amusing. Its quite funny reading the qt's about the "toppling of the red army" when it was being led by a serial killer who spent most of the game trying to cause havoc. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Renata/Eagle, post 195 of their QT


Like I said, I so want to do ATPG. I always told him I'd recruit him if I ever got the chance, because forget suspicion, he's better at getting out of sticky situations than anyone else in the game.

I just would not be AT ALL surprised to see the other side doing the exact same thing. I suppose we should try, regardless.

ATPG/Zeus, post 94 of our QT


Yes do Renata. I've been wanting to give something to her for some time.

She says she doesn't like vanilla roles, so maybe a little chocolate would be more to her liking.


Bow chicka bow wow. :eyebrows:

[Double A]

That's what made the revolt round rather amusing. Its quite funny reading the qt's about the "toppling of the red army" when it was being led by a serial killer who spent most of the game trying to cause havoc. :laugh4:

All we wanted was ACIN.

[Renata]

I offered a draw to Renata and Sigurd, which if they accepted I would have made official, and had they not, we would have converted ACIN and vigilante killed Renata that very night.

We would have accepted. We did not have a line on a further recruit (possibly there was one out there), and as you say, the town was primed against us more strongly than against you. I think I could have turned that, but would have tested out the draw first. Glad to know I was right when I guessed you were lying about having no possible recruits left. :)

Who the heck scanned me? That was such a puzzle.


I can't even describe how many frustrations we Japanese had during this game, even while things seemed to be going swimmingly for us. First there was Beskar's offer to make me an officer, which I *could not* accept -- if the risk of being found out early was not bad enough, there was also the way our team was set up. I was the only one who could kill, and it took all of us to recruit. (I also had the option of a roleblock, which I used once on Autolycus; and the officers could investigate together for weapons resistance/convertability.) Another role would hobble our whole team.

Then there were the several failed kills, and us never finding anyone we could recruit for days and days on end. Then when we finally found Joooray, the separation happened. All of us were stuck with the officers and all the power roles -- there was no way to avoid losses, nowhere to misdirect the lynch and the investigations for long (though I gave it my best shot). And we had to sacrifice Joooray to keep an exposed Sigurd -- we had no idea what ACIN was playing at. Oh, and they made me deputy, an offer which made things even more complicated, but which I could not refuse.

I got some satisfaction in killing Yaseikhaan through officer-protection and was pissed off we only learned after the "weakening" that we'd had a 50% chance of success all along. We'd hardly done worse on the regular townies! :)

And then I was caught myself, oy. Though it was fun feigning outrage. I was not truly sure about ATPG until about halfway through our "bull-spittle" conversation that day -- I'd had too many misconceptions hanging on that needed clearing. But it was rather obvious once he started talking about the KMT taking out Autolycus for my benefit, heh. And I like to think we got one last suprise in by recruiting that night rather than killing someone.

Anyway, the one odd thing was that though I had recognized the probable need for inter-mafia cooperation from very early on (I was constantly talking about it in our QT), we never had the opportunity to set it up -- YLC was inactive, and Sigurd was "vindicated" -- and then when it actually did happen it caught me off guard.

Was still fun.

And Pizzaguy, you have a dirty mind. :laugh4:

[Renata]

And GeneralHankerchief -- wow. I did not see that one coming. The closest we got was guessing it might be ACIN.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Many thanks to Pizzaguy for saving our bacon twice over, and also to GH for allowing it to happen like it did. ;)

*sizzle*

:creep:
You're most welcome. It felt really good to defy the powers that be, especially when they were GH and the consequences of failure would have been disastrous.


And now for your entertainment pleasure: The funny in retrospect, and as it was happening, ATPG-Renata instant message chat where we both pretended to be disgruntled townies, agreeing with each other that GeneralHankerchief and ACIN seemed awfully suspect, when we were in fact both Colonels of both mafia.


Whenever you get a chance to talk ABZF let me know
Renata @ CFC says:
sure, now is fine
ATPG says:
You believe the officers, some of them anyway, to be either ill-informed or actively working against us
you mentioned ACIN
any others?
Renata @ CFC says:
i don't know
i thought the bad info was coming from acin. i still think he's not town. but i don't know the source of the accusation against me
ATPG says:
I am hearing from others some anti-officer sentiment
a sentiment I'm about to share if they choose incorrectly
Renata @ CFC says:
if they lynch you, you mean?
ATPG says:
Yes.
Still bs that I am on the line when the tally wasn't even close.
Renata @ CFC says:
what did happen there? i was kind of distracted
autolycus unvoted landlubber in order to vote me, but i didn't think it was even that close
ATPG says:
No one has explained it; I obviously suspect that our enemies altered the tally to get rid of me.
Renata
can you go over the order of events for me?
ATPG says:
The vote was in favor of landlubber over me, by.... 1 or 2 votes.
then GH said you were Jap
2 votes went to you
maybe a third
but the tally was more about you and lubber
I have no idea why I am tied with lubber
that happened from the host's writeup
no one has claimed responsibility
Renata @ CFC says:
i didn't see anythign to say the vote tally wasn't accurate
are yo usaying it wasn't?
ATPG says:
It wasn't.
that wasn't the accurate tally
Renata @ CFC says:
spell it out; i'm also talking to pinman about NOTW so i'll need it in small words
ATPG says:
I didn't have that many votes.
you were closer to being lynched than me
so was lubber
Renata @ CFC says:
i'm going to have to look
ATPG says:
More infuriating is that they said they were tied 2-2 over my lynch, by the officer's count
Everyone is going to die on my side! It doesn't even matter
just pick someone
then vig the rest
it is that simple
I am so irritated
If they pick lubber, that's a good move
Personally I am finding Jolt to be an issue. I don't trust him in the med officer position
or at all
I dont care what the scan says
IMO someone is investigation immune
its the only way to counter the amount of pro-commie powers
his voting pattern just screams scumbag
But I see your point about ACIN
this isn't the first time results have been "delayed" to the point where no one can defend themselves
it's so pointless
that smacks of falsehood
Renata @ CFC says:
the pinman one is the biggest problem
just go back and read it
ATPG says:
so that someone ends up dead
but can't protest and call him a big fat liar
Renata @ CFC says:
i thought the next couple of days would go more or less as follows: a few of the people who haven't been scanned (only numbers five or so, including me) get scanned; a few get lynched
at that point, either all my paranoia is for naught, game over, yay us
or it's not game over, and we're back to square zero with the godfather issue front and center along with possible treachery from ACIN
yet here's this false accusation a couple of days before then -- which suggests more panic than you'd think a godfather would have
i don't know how to add it up
ATPG says:
Either way, the position ACIN has is not something that goes away if he dies.
Renata @ CFC says:
let me go check the vote totals
ATPG says:
and there's credibility issues
Renata @ CFC says:
i know
ATPG says:
I would take him out if I were you.
Regardless if I die or not
Renata @ CFC says:
i can't do anything
ATPG says:
there's enough anti-officer sentiment, you could get a vig team together
Renata @ CFC says:
no, i mean i literally can't do anything -- autolycus will certainly block me, why would he not?
vigs take five people
ATPG says:
Autolycus won't stop you.
Renata @ CFC says:
and that's not even mentioning the protection he likely has
since when?
ATPG says:
Well here's the thing
North Bank has only so many people
he is either KMT
in which case, he's got no reason to stop you; more reason to block the other officers
or he's not KMT
in which case he's probably a dead man
Renata @ CFC says:
? obvious KMT target?
ATPG says:
yes
Renata @ CFC says:
ok
ATPG says:
the KMT are on the North bank
there were two of them, according to the writeup
Renata
that we know of
ATPG
so, either Auto is one of them
Renata
i only remember one
where are you getting two?
ATPG
or he will be blocking them
Subotan's post
Renata
right ...
ATPG
so, he's either blocking KMT or he is KMNT
if he's blocking KMT they will kill him first
Renata
i still don't follow that -- he has a "known Japanese" in the hand and he's gong to block an unknown? since when?
ATPG
why would he block a "known Japanese" when he knows that there are potentially two KMT on the North bank
more likely you get vig'ed
All I am saying is that if he is KMT then you're probably the least of his concerns, because he knows the North is about to get wiped out.
by lynch or vig
if he isn't KMT then he knows he's a likely KMT target
Renata
Jolt, Cute Wolf, Sigurd, Seamus
but Cute Wolf didn't vote for you
ATPG
Thats right
he voted for you
Renata
gotcha
ATPG
he was the first to do so in fact
Renata
yep
veddy veddy interesting
ATPG
I know someone wants me dead.
And it's likely an officer
that's why the vote was 2-2 in the officer's club
Renata
ACIN wanted you investigated, the night we investigated cute wolf
GH overruled him
ATPG
it's probably ACIN
Renata
it probably is
ATPG
he wanted to frame me
but now he's got a two-for-one
he framed you
and then put the vote on me
Renata
how?
i don't see vote-screwing as a cop power
ATPG
It would be if he were some Jap leader.
Renata
looks more like chairman or special op
ATPG
the cop power comes with the office
he might have other powers
Renata
oh, something inherent. could be
ATPG
indeed
the only Jap that died so far was YLC iirc
and he was totally inactive everywhere
he basically abandoned the org
it's likely the Japs cut him loose to make themselves look good
I suspect treachery
Renata
yes, though i had it wrong about GH just single-handedly putting the vote on him -- it was the tracker again
he was certainly expendable, if anyone is
ATPG
i had to WOG him
Renata
i know
ATPG
I'm velly dissapointed in him
Well Nictel is basically inactive.
I know, just from being who I am, that it's gotta be Nictel and Split, Split and Auto, or Auto and Nictel
Split got active recently
just in time to save his :daisy:
Renata
not landlubber?
he was the greatest direct beneficiary
both of the accusation against me and potentially also of the change dvote
ATPG
That's true...
I dont know why I couldn't see it before.
Too obvious?
Renata
lol maybe
ATPG
I always expect things to be more complicated than they appear
Renata
i always expecct people not to do things that will result in only a short-term gain
ATPG
how do you feel about some of these other ancillary people
let's go through the list
Blackadder?
Renata
yeah, that's a tricky one
but i think if you're mafia you can do the math at least as well as i can, so -- i think he's the tracker
ATPG
See, this is why I ask these questions
I hadn't a clue
I don't know what the officer positions do
Renata
oh
well if you are mafia, just shoot me
ATPG
I thought it was the special agent
Seamus' current job
Renata
i don't think so, though it could be
ATPG
I had it figured like this:
Top guy can't vote, but decides ties
top guy has other command powers
and defensive powers for himself
I expect
Medical officer is like a doctor
methinks
sounds about right
Renata
it is; it was said as much somewhere
ATPG
Special Operative thingy probably does tracking
ACIN probably does other investigations
Autolycus blocks, obviously
kind of a lot of firepower
it's insane that the Japs haven't taken more damage from that
Renata
i know
ATPG
Cute Wolf?
Renata
there's a couple of things to suggest that the special op is not the tracker; namely, that GH said something about taka way back when that suggested the roles were similar
ATPG
I joined too late to read that
Renata
power role, unkonwn. he claimed something to GH about halfway through the game when he was in trouble, and was thereafter scanned by ACIN
ATPG
I haven't really learned much about the beginning game
Renata
ok
cute wolf joined investigations with me and ACIN, but i dont' know what he was doing there -- I got one result and ACIN two, which makes three
he's been voting me for a couple of days now; i suppose it's possible he could be the source of the accusation, but he's been scanned innocent
ATPG
I am disregarding all scans at this point
the scans are bull spit
do you have an independent feeling on his villainy or innocence?
Renata
shadow fort all over again? i don't know. alarge part of me wants to believe them about everyone else still. makes things simpler, you know?
ATPG
if we had reliable scans, this game would have been over a long time ago
Renata
not really. romanic got on his case once, and he didn't reveal his role until he was under pressure; those and the votes on me are the only data points that have registered
ATPG
hmm
okay how about Death is Yonder
Renata
actually romanic got on his case twice
ATPG
I hear he was scanned innocent
But again, I want to look at this as if the scans are BS
Renata
he was last night's scan and hasn't been accused, so i'm assuming
ATPG
do you have any reason to suspect him independent of that
Renata
he was the target of an attempted recruitment by the KMT, which failed
ATPG
that means he's either Jap, or commie
Renata
there was something, but i can't remember can't have been very significant
right
ATPG
Double A?
Renata
hasn't left much of an impression on me for a while, but i had a strong impression of innocence from the early game
Gh trusts him
ATPG
He usually pays attention more when he's guilty.
Jolt?
Renata
i thought he was the hairy man. then ACIN (and I) scanned him innocent a couple of days ago. Again, I didn't actually see the alignment result
ATPG
I can tell you my feelings about him so far are entirely negative.
Renata
no surprise
ATPG
But that's because dead wrong votes plus self votes mean usually mafia
we can afford to replace him
Joooray?
Renata
lynched
ATPG
oh sweet
Renata
lol
ATPG
lets get that off my list then
Renata
hang on phone
ATPG
I'll skip lubber, since he's probably vig or lynchbait soon
Nictel, same thing, only less pressing.
Seamus?
Renata
same as diy -- someethign somewhere that pinged me, but i've forgotten it. officers except ACIN haven't really been on my radar
ATPG
he was recently promoted IIRC
he's obviously trusted
Renata
no, he was moved to special op after khaan's death, but he was doc before that
yeah
ATPG
Sigurd?
He also claims he was wrongly besmirched
Renata
second looniest ACIN reveal after Pinman. if ACIN's bad, so is he
wrongly besmirched by who? the KMT?
ATPG
Sigurd claims that the administration was after him
I read a little bit about that
we were on the North bank at the time
Renata
ok
yeah, he's been very against GH, even beyond what I think is reasonable
ATPG
It's unusual for him to flip out like that as mafia.
Renata
he was mafia in Capo, right?
ATPG
reading those posts, I see his frustration in the late reveal
Oh yes.
He was the head commissioner person
Renata
right, your "investigator" good times
ATPG
he was cool as a cucumber even when I accused him privately of being the "wolf" role
You never ruffle his feathers.
However I've seen him go from passive to aggressive before
and his point was obvious.... no direct accuser, no results
when there should have been results
It's eerily similar to your own situation
Renata
yeah, it is when you put it that way
ATPG
I'll skip Split too, simply because he's probably in the crosshairs for the North bank
Renata
i'd like to know what you think of your fellow north bank denizens
but brb ina minute, NOTW update just went up
ATPG
North Bank? Infested with KMT scum
the whole bank will be dead soon.
especially since we seem to keep killing the wrong people
I find that landlubber is most likely to be guilty among them
a second place would be Split.
third is probably Autolycus
simply because I can't believe he'd not be attacked by the KMT when there was obvious gaps in his defenses
gaps he himself put there
actually, on second thought
screw it, Autolycus is probably guilty as hell
More than Split.
Renata
who was in the protection group other than AVSM?
ATPG
it varied day by day
4 the first day
3 second
3 third
AVSM in all of them
Romanic in the early ones
total messup with landlubber in the first one
none of them functioned
and no protection groups ever functioned
AND he's a fricking roleblocker
how do you even miss?
2 protections, 1 block
Couldn't protect anyone
couldn't block one murder
yeah, and Split was inactive for a while, but the KMT kept doing things
methinks it is Auto, lubber, then possibly Split
Nictel, as you know, often lurks.
Renata
i just want to know who was in the group on the last night when WEW was killed
ATPG
the group on Auto?
sure let me check
Split, AVSM, and me
he could have assigned me to do protection on him so he knew no one else would be protected.
That was by his own orders, btw
that explains why Lubber was being spared
I will die tonight.
Auto is probably one of the officers trying to bring me down
along with ACIN
that's the 2
but then Jolt is as well
Renata
if it was 2-2 somebody change dtheir mind
ATPG
of course.
I am betting it is at least 3-1 now against me
when that happens, you will know
ACIN mentioned publicly that he wasn't out for my head.
I think he's too focused on you
he could be the third.
Methinks I detect the stench of Autolycus and Jolt.
Renata
somethings weird with the north bank. well south too, to be honest
ATPG
North Bank should have stopped the KMT.
We had the defenses, we had the roleblocker
the one leading the effort wasn't me, except I was talking the most
everything flows from Autolycus
approval for all the actions taken
all night orders
suggested lynches
Renata
it's a bit much to put all blame on autolycus in that sense -- roleblock and two protections isn't exactly proof against things getting through
did he say who he roleblocked, though?
ATPG
no
none of that has been made public
there's no transparency in this admninistration
Renata
i'm of such mixed feelings about that
ATPG
what are your thoughts
Renata
meta-gaming stuff
it's safer to keep things quiet -- unless you're infiltrated, in which case it's worse
ATPG
It's obviously infiltrated or else you're mafia.

so, which is it?
Emperor Palpatine- I wonder if your feelings on this matter are clear, Lord Vader.
you with the mixed feelings
Renata
yeah, i'm mafia
ATPG
Hahaha
That's become so commonplace that it could be either one.
Renata

ATPG
on the plus side, you've been an entertaining mafia.

Renata
i always strive for entertaining
usually at my own expense
ATPG
you mentioned after we got separated that you wished I was still on the south side, because I mentioned being separated
did you think I was guilty because of that?
As far as I know, GH and his little buddy Autolycus were behind all that
Renata
i can't remember that conversation
ATPG
I just happened to guess correctly
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128827-A-Bridge-Zhou-Far-Three-Stars-Rising-IN-PLAY&p=2516284&viewfull=1#post2516284
Renata
oh ok
ATPG
I find it hilarious that I predicted we'd get divided
otherwise why else would there be a bridge
a rope bridge, no less
Renata
yeah, i was very suspicious at that time. there was also a recruitment right after you joined, IIRC
feels like ages ago
ATPG
Everyone assumes I always would get recruited and yet it never happens
To date I think only Diana and Kage have ever recruited me for anything
Renata
i promise i will recruit you the first time i ge the chance
ATPG
I have to figure I'm not recruitable in this game or it would have happened by now
but I'm dead anyway
Renata
probably
ATPG
I haven't seen much Jap recruitment
maybe they lost their recruiter person?
Renata
YLC didn't die until just a couple of days ago, and he was the first
doesn't explain the whole game
ATPG
indeed.
but I believe that people have died indicating they could have been recruited by the Japanese
unless I am mis-remembering
Renata
yeah, secura stands out, since she was so emphatic about being still innocent when she died
ATPG
she was Jap-recruitable?
Renata
yes, iirc
ATPG
Maybe their recruitment isn't made public.... but that seems unlikely
Renata
yeah, i doubt it
before the failure was shown with diy i might guess they'd just had a lot of failures, but not after that
ATPG
wasn't DIY attempted to be recruited by the KMT
Renata
yeah, i mean that that failure was shown, so probably japanese failures would also be shown if they had occurred
ATPG
Ah okay
I also want to point out the KMT have been recruiting like rabbits, it seems
Renata
at least twice, probably three times
though they've also lost at least three people
ATPG
wily bastards.
Renata
who, us or them?
ATPG
can't seem to kill them
slippery like a greased-up eel
Renata
except for the three who are dead?
ATPG
But they keep recruiting more.
Renata
what variety of mafia do yo think romanic was?
ATPG
the evil kind.
Renata
lol
ATPG
I have no idea
Autolycus seemed to want him gone, and I have my doubts about him
Renata
i think he was KMT, too, though being wrong about that might explain some of his response
ATPG
possibly an inter-mafia war.
Renata
always amusing when you're "right" about a scumbag for the wrong reasons
ATPG
I'm always right for reasons that make no sense to people.
I swear to jimminy cricket that I know what I am talking about

Renata
lol
ATPG
I think Romanic was a helpless member of an opposing mafia faction from Auto
that's probably why he got lynched
but he was still reading like scum
possibly Jap
I think most of the Japs were on the South side
Renata
like i said, half my accusation against romanic turned out to be based on suspicious linkages to psychonaut, so if it turns out he was actually japanese and i went after him for the wrong reasons when he ws just playing helpful townie, i will laugh and laugh
ATPG
If there is recruitment, you also have to figure that people who have been scanned before are not necessarily still innocent
Renata
yeah, i know
which is another problem: other than jolt, i don't remember it ever being specified whether someone who had been investigated was recruitable or not, which is maddening on multiple levels
why did the KMT act on the last night of separation, and not previously?
ATPG
Hold on let me ask them.
Renata
hehe i'll wait
you said something about wanting to encourage them to act, but you never really explained why
ATPG
Yes, and that confused the bejeezus out of you IIRC
Renata
yes
ATPG
If they acted, it would prove that they were there, in the smaller group
and how many there were, minimum
2 reared their ugly little heads
but, they didn't want to reveal right away, or else they'd get caught
so they waited until there was only one lynch
the main group lynch
instead of two lynches
methinks the idea was, too many targets
oh look, KMT known to be in this group
Japs known to be in this group
lots of suspects
only one lynch
same reason why the town lost Capo I and Capo II
too many known mafiosi to lynch them all
but the principle here is the same.
Renata
that does make some sense
ATPG
But revealing on day one
will increase the likelihood of being lynched before the group re-integrated
which just leaves the Japs in the south to get rid of
and ends their little adventure in the North Bank before they could even have a decent roll in the hay without General supervision.
Renata
lol
ATPG
Either that or they were inactive until recently

Renata
you imply you think GH is innocent -- do you?
ATPG
I don't know.
He could be either or.
I just know half of his officers rub me the wrong way
and the other half rub me the right way
and it is messing up my hair
Renata
lol
ATPG
personally I would consider electing someone else to the chairmanship
but I lack both the votes and the breathing for that
Renata
lol
ATPG
I know there are many who wish to see a new Chairman
but, alas, not enough votes.
if I end up dead by this very lynch, I am going to start rooting against the administration more loudly
regardless of who or what they are
I'll start rooting for the Japs
those handsome devils.
if the admin can't make the correct call between me and lubber, they don't deserve their heads
because they obviously arent using them
Renata
or they are
all the scumbags want you dead, ATPG, it's like a rule of nature or something
ATPG
Of course.
Did you see Pick your Power?
Renata
yeah
ATPG
that was harsh
Renata
it was beeyootiful
although also harsh
ATPG
Yes.
Straight up murdering me will give me too much power
the lynch means it will take 3 days to find out I am innocent
too late.
Renata
yeah
ATPG
at this point they can say whatever they want
get as many false lynches as they want
and the results will come too late
If there is a revolt, I want someone I can trust who is personally in charge of investigations.
Not ACIN
Renata
lol
ATPG
I want a second opinion
Renata
i have to go -- see you around later/tomorrow
ATPG
okely dokely
Renata
bye

Notice how I call the KMT "wily bastards" and the Japanese "handsome devils". :laugh4:

I am not very subtle, even when I am kinda-bullspitting, about my love for both mafia clans. Good thing Renata was actually guilty. :clown:

[seireikhaan]

Notice how I call the KMT "wily bastards" and the Japanese "handsome devils". :laugh4:

I am not very subtle, even when I am kinda-bullspitting, about my love for both mafia clans. Good thing Renata was actually guilty. :clown:
As well in the future, whenever you cry victim over and over again we can lynch you on principle. :skull:

[Askthepizzaguy]

As well in the future, whenever you cry victim over and over again we can lynch you on principle. :skull:

Not impressed; I'm already lynched on principle anyway. Or, as JHT says, so people stay sane.

:tongue: And it loses games, too.... :wink: bonus points!

[seireikhaan]

Not impressed; I'm already lynched on principle anyway. Or, as JHT says, so people stay sane.

:tongue: And it loses games, too.... :wink: bonus points!
True that.

But things'll be fine as long as you act like good townie pizzaguy, bringer of the pepperoni, who aggressively pursues but does not cry, as opposed to evil meanie pizzaguy, bringer of the anchovies and clinger of life. :clown:

[Cute Wolf]

@ renata, I was the one who Kill winshington Hughes, Jhonhughthom, and 3 others, random people mostly... oh yeah, I allready speak about my false flag ability, yes?

[Renata]

Three others? There were no kills unaccounted for.

[Cute Wolf]

you are wrong on two kills... wait, that was two... my last kill never been occured

[Renata]

I only remember Winston Hughes and JHT as being unaccounted for.

Anyway, regardless -- who the heck scanned me?

[DELETE_THIS]

So I was completely innocent!

..Oh wait ATPG already revealed it all. :p

I was:

Kuomintang Corporal (Mafia)

Communism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom – Liberty Prime

You are a humble soldier of the National Revolutionary Army, the land forces of the sole legitimate government of China, and the army of the only legal political organisation in China, the Kuomintang. You enlisted shortly after the establishment of the Republic in order to escape the banditry and suffering in the countryside. You have since served on numerous campaigns, mainly against warlords, before taking part in the colossal War of Resistance. You fought at Shanghai, Nanking and Wuhan, before being chosen along with Psychonautl by a Colonel, Thermal Mercury, to infiltrate a rogue unit of the United Front who were plotting to disrupt Nationalist supply lines.

You managed to inform Colonel Bei Bi in Heihui Chen of the impending Japanese attack, allowing him to retreat, leaving the Reds to feel the brunt of the fighting. Escaping with the survivors, your objective now is to totally wipe out the remaining Bolsheviks, thereby gaining intelligence for use by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek to launch a final offensive against the Communist and purge the disease of Marxism from the sacred soil of China for ever.

Your aims: The complete and utter extermination of all Communists in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, as well as the imperialist Japanese bandits. (I.e. scum victory)

Your methods: You have a wide variety of techniques at your disposal.

Day: Lynch, Revolt.

Night: You can investigate to determine someone’s susceptibility, as well as kill Commies. You must work with Psychonaut to investigate someone, whilst your Colonel can convert or roleblock by himself. All three of you must work together to kill an individual, however.

In the event that your number increases due to conversion, then you only require the three non-Colonel KMT members to kill, allowing your Colonel to submit a separate order. If the Colonel is killed, all of the Corporals must work together to investigate, kill, or convert (The ability to roleblock is lost permanently). In the event that a Corporal is killed, then your abilities continue as normal. (PM me for clarification if this isn’t clear)

You may also participate in standard townie groups at night in place of your standard mafia actions.
Only one faction member may be present in each group:
Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a player successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

However, you may choose to allow any group action you participate in to fail or not, by sending a PM to me indicating whether you wish to sabotage it.

And should you and the townies you are working with form a clique, you are able to participate in that clique’s actions AND still send in your standard mafia orders.

As an added bonus, thanks to your (admittedly rudimentary) training, you are sort of skilled in Knives, and thus you are immune to the any attack anyone makes on you using Blades

Good luck. You’ll need it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

On this forum, [spoil] replaces [spoiler] which does not function.

Congrats on surviving, Mars my friend!

[DELETE_THIS]

Someone always needs to be different..

Yes it was rather fun to see how we went from: WE ARE DOOMED! Let's go on a suicidal run! to: WAIT? We actually have a shot at winning this!

[Secura]

I really wanted to enjoy this game, and had been looking forward to it since I first read about it in Subo's signature back when I joined the Org... but I just couldn't get into it after receiving my role PM, finding out that I was vanilla and realising that it would be another one of those games. To be quite honest, being killed was just as much of a blessing as it was a deja vu-laden annoyance.

Despite that, the writing was an absolute joy to behold and as a historian I have only praise for the amount of research and knowledge that was poured into each one... kudos, Subo-chan. :3

[Jolt]

I really wanted to enjoy this game, and had been looking forward to it since I first read about it in Subo's signature back when I joined the Org... but I just couldn't get into it after receiving my role PM, finding out that I was vanilla and realising that it would be another one of those games. To be quite honest, being killed was just as much of a blessing as it was a deja vu-laden annoyance.

Despite that, the writing was an absolute joy to behold and as a historian I have only praise for the amount of research and knowledge that was poured into each one... kudos, Subo-chan. :3


Gg.

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/wGEci5vdXZWpY

The final posts were an ploy to, if we lost the officership, and the Mafia would get access to the Officers QT, to make it seem like we officers had no idea who was who, thus why my 6 Japanese there, and my attempt to convince whoever was townie that there were 6 Japanese, and to exactly prevent townies from revolting.

We had all Mafiosi pinned down correctely, though I thought Split was clearly a KMT as well.

1- GH's idea to give up posts is that the Chairman had a special ability to make an extra lynch in addition to the normal lynch (Which would take care of two mafiosi), which coupled with a vig kill with all the townies together (GH was going to fire Seamus, me and Acin so we could vig kill with Cute Wolf and Capt. Blackadder) AND apparently, his own Hairy Man ability, would mean that of the 3 KMTs and 3 Japanese, in the very next day there would only be 1 KMT (2 if they tried to recruit Acin) and 1 Japanese. It would be a complete sweep.

2- Once the revolt was complete, we decided it would be best, in light of the Chairman's ability, to dissolve the Officer Corps, and keep our numbers while playing a Mafia family against the other (ATPG, your reasoning in your QT as to Acin's intentions is spot on). Acin also had a role-blocking ability which he couldn't use while an officer, which he was going to use against you KMT to prevent his own recruiting. Then Cute Wolf revealed to me he was the hairy man, and I proceeded to try and manipulate him into killing Japanese or KMT. Counting on a bit of luck, using our numbers and using Cute Wolf (which would be lynched in the end or close to it), we would have been able to slide through for an epic narrow victory. (Which apparently wasn't going to happen)

Split was being investigated by Capt. Blackadder, and his innocent result would immediately make me bring him into our group.

If the KMT managed to recruit Acin thruogh the role-block (which wasn't going to happen anyway), I would have publicly revealed that the KMT had recruited Acin (Therefore trying to spark conflict amongst both Mafia families)

[Secura]

Gg.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret this, Jolt. :/

[Jolt]

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret this, Jolt. :/

Oh, sorry it wasn't as a reply to you. I just misclicked Reply with quote.

gg stands for "Good game".

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I had my suspicions that GH was the hairy man :D :D :D. That's two games in a row I've sniffed out anti-towners.

Either way, I must confess that I think I was killed due to metagaming issues. Thing is, I saw Subo's quicktopic list whilst in college and read a suspicious name. Apparently he then notified whoever was in the suspicious name club and the hairy man killed me. Oopsie, but I suppose it was the right thing to do.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I was the Hairy Man.

I guess you all realized this by now, but seeing as this is the first time I've had computer access in a while...

Once I get a new laptop I'll post exactly what was going on, but my plan was basically as follows: Recruit ACIN and khaan to help in the mayhem, quickly determine who the Japanese and KMT were through the buildup of a network, and then evenly pick off townies and villains until my faction was the only team remaining. It was going pretty well, but ACIN and I underestimated just how many scum were around in the endgame. If we had known, we probably would have been far more aggressive in killing off Sigurd and Renata.

Basically, for my final game (for a while), I wanted to completely and utterly bring down my bete noire of Mafia, which is the pro-town network. There are others, but none as sinister as the network. If you guys cite this game as an example for why you shouldn't be in networks for a while, then I have done my job.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So was beefy innocent after all?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Oh god yeah. I just killed you off early so I could pin it on him. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh god yeah. I just killed you off early so I could pin it on him. :laugh4:

I TOLD YOU GUYS HE WAS INNOCENT

I highly appreciate the information network reputation sabotage though.

We had some chatter in one of the qt threads about your guilt btw (ignore double A's number spamming).

[a completely inoffensive name]

Yes, the master plan me and GH had went awry when we saw how many mafia were still around. I attempted to trick Sigurd by going off my reputation of being anti-town even as a town by telling him I was attempting to undermine GH and blackmailing him saying his partners would die unless I knew who they were so I could protect them from GH's attacks. Didn't work because I took Sigurd's info at face value.

After GH died I attempted to rally all the town people to vig kill a KMT (ATPG) and have the KMT and Japs attack each other. My last order was an attempt at roleblocking ATPG so I wouldnt be recruited.

I was innocent townie through it all.

I can answer most questions since me and GH caused a lot of confusion.

[Captain Blackadder]

Your Role is:

Secret Policeman (Tracker)

Political criticism is our enemies' best friend. - Bernard Kerik

Greeting Comrade! You are a loyal Party member who has repeatedly shown both his commitment to the struggle of the working class and cunning in weaselling out those who would betray our cause. Thus, you have been appointed by the leadership in Yan-an as a Secret Policeman, to watch over PEXDET and make sure that no anti-people elements infiltrate the Party. Although you were expecting just a simple job of arresting and beating anyone who was caught with KMT propaganda, the situation has developed into something far more serious.
Your life and the life of every other Communist in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment is at risk from two counter-revolutionary forces, and it is essential that your skills in detecting reactionary thought are utilised to the full in defending PEXDET from its enemies.

Your aims: Town victory.

Your methods: You are a tracker, able to track one person per night. You know that there are an unknown number of other policemen in the Company, and it is advised that you find them as quickly as possible in order to co-ordinate your efforts.

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night:Track. This will reveal to you what tent your target has gone to just not what they were doing there.

Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Good luck. You’ll need it.

[Beskar]

Moral of the story, you should have elected Beskar.

[wideyedwanderer]

I knew ATPG killed me.

[Romanic]

The Japanese QT is funny!


Renata : Was Romanic the colonel after all?
Sigurd : YES!!!!!!!111111
Renata : Hahahaha OMG.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Funny, funny.


Renata: Jesus the evidence against Romanic just keeps piling up and up
Sigurd : [...] Again... Romanic is showing that he possesses intelligence beyond that which is found in the thread.
The whole game you suspected me to be KMT, but I was a vanilla townie from start to finish.:grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think my coming out so heavily against you, Romanic, confused the ever living Jeebus out of a lot of people, including my Japanese friends.

[Death is yonder]

Enjoyable game :bow:

Thank you Subo for the effort you've put in, even if the game wasn't properly played out to the very end.

And a pleasure working with you guys, Sigurd and Renata. All game I spent trying to act like a townie, and then boom, I became the mafia! :beam:

It was an interesting few rounds :bow:

BTW ATPG did you buy my fake townie act over the MSN? :tongue:

Or was I too obvious about it :thinking:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Enjoyable game :bow:

Thank you Subo for the effort you've put in, even if the game wasn't properly played out to the very end.

And a pleasure working with you guys, Sigurd and Renata. All game I spent trying to act like a townie, and then boom, I became the mafia! :beam:

It was an interesting few rounds :bow:

BTW ATPG did you buy my fake townie act over the MSN? :tongue:

Or was I too obvious about it :thinking:

The act was good, but once we figured out Split was townie, it was more obvious that it was you who had been recruited, especially since we tried to recruit you and it failed. That was probably a tip off to the Japanese that you weren't KMT material.

[Renata]

I think my coming out so heavily against you, Romanic, confused the ever living Jeebus out of a lot of people, including my Japanese friends.

I spent a lot of mental effort trying to figure out whether it all could have been concocted between you, yes, maybe to help bolster Pizzaguy's townie credentials or because Romanic had been continuously blocked by Autolycus and they figured they'd be stronger without him. The KMT having the opposite setup from us (full numbers to kill/just the colonel to recruit versus our full numbers to recruit/just the colonel to kill) made things more confusing and helped lead me down the primrose path; and then when Subotan confirmed two killers on wideyedwanderer right after Romanic's lynch, it was just icing on the cake.

I did actually believe what I was saying about you, Romanic! :)

But geez, Pizza, were you ever scummy over on the north bank.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I thought it was scummy that you weren't voting for me or accusing me. Because you usually do. :tongue2:

[Renata]

I did! I totally went after you after the re-join, have you forgotten? Though I did switch to landlubber after I figured out which side my bread was buttered.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I did! I totally went after you after the re-join, have you forgotten? Though I did switch to landlubber after I figured out which side my bread was buttered.

Before that. Before we split up.

[Sigurd]

Fun game indeed.

Doomed, saved, doomed again and alive at the game end. If games could be this intense for all players, we could have created something worth money.

It was obvious after a while that cooperation between the mafia factions was needed to win this game.
And we really thought the KMT colonel was dead after you started killing using more than one person. At least this would have been true for us. Maybe the KMT setup was a bit different?

Why did you wait until the very end to kill? You left the dirty work to us.

[Pinman]

It seemed impractical for us to recruit. Since it took up all of our members, we couldnt be active in townie groups, or investigate for converts, if we killed.

More importantly, there was nobody we really wanted to kill. We didn't think we could get the officers, and the two people we scanned with resistances, you and Renata, we believed to be mafia. Basically, my early strategy for the KMT was to try and recoup any losses we sustained with recruiting. Keep the town on edge, but also not portray ourselves as the major threat.

Ultimately I think this strategy worked, as we survived to the endgame with reasonable numbers. However, it was very, very close, and our lack of kills really cemented the "pro - town" network against us. It created the odd situation where half the town knew that the other half was guilty.

I will note though that without the split up we couldn't have won. We werent recruiting fast enough to take the bullseyes from the pro- town network. We got lucky, as ATPG was able to brilliantly manipulate the people on the north bank, but his skills would have been ineffective against the rest of the pro- town network on the south bank.

[Jolt]

One question: What were the Japanese doing this night (The night the game ended)?

[Askthepizzaguy]

One question: What were the Japanese doing this night (The night the game ended)?

They were either killing you, or killing Blackadder. Last I heard, it was going to be you. But they might'v changed their minds.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why did you wait until the very end to kill? You left the dirty work to us.

We kept losing people as soon as we got them (Flax, Psychonaut, Pinman) leaving only me (joined late) and Nictel.

We needed to try for recruits; killing off a recruit wouldn't have helped us at all. Except M3YUZ, who would have been a waste of time as he was just a corpse the entire time I was playing.

[Double A]

I TOLD YOU GUYS HE WAS INNOCENT

I highly appreciate the information network reputation sabotage though.

We had some chatter in one of the qt threads about your guilt btw (ignore double A's number spamming).

In like 10 years, I'm gonna start a conversation with myself in that thing. Best QT ever.

[Subotan]

Hey Gameroom members,

Sorry. I really am so sorry about going completely AWOL during the middle of ABZF. I let you down in my responsibilities as a mod, and it upsets me that the amount of time that you and I put it into it all came to nothing. The reason is, the game went on for longer than I intended (Probably due to the KMT’s no kills policy; whether this was bad game design or the unintentional consequence of tactics I have no idea) was that I went on a family holiday to a remote Scottish Island for a week, and then to Belfast at my grans. At the first I didn’t even have internet access, and in the second, I could only use my iPhone. I should have informed you earlier, but I was afraid I’d get my butt kicked because I’d disappointed you all.
The game was designed with the lessons of Pirate Ship Mafia in mind. For one, I wanted to break the Town Network, and I did by allowing for a large Officer corps, lots of convertibles, and a few neutrals thrown in. That isn’t to say that such a network would have been impossible to form, but the natural point to rally around to form such a network, the Officer Corps, was controlled by a player who had absolutely no interest. I also wanted a bit more anarchy, so instead of a simple town/mafia/mafia, I added in plenty of actors who could have changed the course of the game, had they lived.

I thought the game up until my departure went pretty well. I was very pleased that some features such as the bridge separation, the revolt, the conversions, weapons, and the excellent role playing were all utilised to the full. The bridge separation might have worked better, but I think it good prototype for future experiments in other games.
Others didn’t quite work, such as incidents, cliques, the Trotskyite-Secret Policeman Rivalry, the Martial Arts Sifu and the Megalomaniac didn’t quite work out, with all but the incidents failing due to chance. Cliques didn’t work because they were very fragile, and could be broken easily, although when utilised by the scum they were very effective. The earlier incidents didn’t really add that much to the game, and if I was hosting again, I’d remove all but the ones I thought were really important.

On the playing styles and tactics:

Town: The town was lead in circles by various scum factions. You elected an SK (!), and dialogue was dominated by scum factions such as Sigurd, Renata, ATPG, The Flax and others. You did have some very strong and lucky players, like Blackadder, but the disadvantages you didn’t know you had weighed you down a lot. Had the game continued, I really doubt we would have seen a town victory.

KMT – You guys were crippled by the disappearance of Thermal Mercury, and also because of your role design which required to all of you to kill. You could have been much more aggressive in early game I think, but you did seem to have this feeling of doom permanently clouding over you, which maybe made you overly cautious. It would have been a toss-up between you and the IJA as to who would have won.

IJA – Probably the stronger mafia team. You stayed undercover for a long while, and had your early targets been less lucky and less immune, you would have dominated the game. Mid game, your performance was excellent, although things may have started to unravel towards the end. Again, I couldn’t say out of the two teams who would have won, but if I had to pick one, it would probably the Japanese.

OTHER: The duelists were somewhat disappointing, although for reasons outside of their control. (John was sniffed out as not town early on). The Megalomaniac was as well, since he was killed before he could do any damage (Although Chaotix didn’t try to get himself elected). However, GH performed an absolutely legendary move when he managed to get elected as THE serial killer of the town A fitting role for your very last game. It was bound to end in tears though, as the possibilities for who the Hairy Man could be were slowly narrowed down. But you gave it a good shot.


OFFICER ROLES:
You have been promoted to:
Chairman
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun ~ Mao Zedong
Congratulations Comrade! You have been elected to be the leader of PEXDET in its flight from Guei Sui Valley. If you are a loyal Communist, then remember that the men of PEXDET expect you to do your best to save them from both the counter-revolutionaries and internal power struggles. If, however you are a member of the enemy and have deceived the Communists into voting for you, then you will want to do exactly the opposite.
Your aims: Assuming you are a pro-town role, your aims have not substantially changed. You need to be able to provide clear, resolute leadership, uniting the town around you and not letting it descend into a travelling witch hunt. You will be required to make tough decisions that will send men to their deaths. Should you succeed in this, then not only will you survive the retreat, but you will emerge as a stronger figure in the Communist Party. And who knows, maybe this will be a baptism in fire for you, and merely the first accomplishment in a long line of achievements in the name of Marxism in China.
Methods: Given the danger faced by your Red Army, you have been given emergency powers.
You must pick four officers to serve with you, a Medical Officer (Doc), a Commissar of Anti-Revolutionary Activities (Cop, can investigate two people per night and pick a deputy) a Director of Proletarian Justice (Roleblocker) and a Distributor of Propaganda (Can control one vote in addition to his own). That last role is a secret (Propaganda tends to lose its effect when people realise that it is propaganda), and is referred to as such by the rest of the town as the “Special Operative”. However, should you pick unwisely and find that you have appointed imperialists to positions of such trust, then you should make use of an additional ability. You may purge your officer corps, by revoking their authority and relegating them to original stations. You may do this as often as you like.
You may no longer vote in the proceedings in-thread. Of course, you may discuss, and should there be a tie, then the decision will be delegated to you and your officers. Should there be a tie between the officers as well, your vote is the decider.
For obvious reasons, you can no longer revolt to remove yourself from power.
You do however posses a new ability which may only be used once by the Captain, which will not be re-used should you be deposed. The Party Decree allows you to lynch one additional member in a given day, in full view of the rest of the company.
Luckily for you, you are unkillable unless you are deposed from power.
The whole of the People’s Extraordinary Detachment depends on you. You better hope you have good luck.

You have been promoted to
Medical Officer (Doctor)
All I can tell you about this next procedure is that it will be… excruciating! - Medic
Congratulations Comrade! You have been chosen by the Chairman to be the medic of PEXDET. This is an important role, and not one that should be squandered. As the medic, you are responsible for keeping your comrades alive amidst all the chaos of Mid 20th Century China. Bandages, medicines, splints and more are all in your toolkit, as well as that most common and useful of commodities; opium. Although you may have a specialist role to play in some of the incidents, you come into the fore during night phases, when you may watch over a certain comrade as an individual, and prevent him from being successfully murderer, if he is attacked by Rightists during the long, dark nights. Of course, if you are one of the Rightists, then you may make more unusual choices in who you protect and discern information to.
Aims: Your objectives have not changes, only you now have a lot more influence of achieving them, regardless of whether you are a Communist or not.
Methods: As you are now more important than other soldiers, you have been afforded more powerful equipment, thus giving you the edge in combat should you be attacked.
You can perform Surgery on individual comrades, to protect them from harm and heal their wounds if they are attacked during the night.
Unfortunately, you have lost the ability to form protection and vig groups, as well as revolt against the Captain. Luckily, if you suspect that the Captain is a traitor (Or if you are a traitor, naturally), then you can mount a Coup against him with the other officers. The more officers you have partaking in the coup, the more likely it will be that you will be successful. The Chairman does not know about this ability!
Once Again, good luck.

You have been promoted to
Distributor of Propaganda (Special Operative)
All warfare is based on deception. -Sun Tzu
Congratulations Comrade! You have been chosen by the Chairman to be the Distributor of Propaganda for PEXDET. Unlike the other officers, your role is at its most effective in the day. You are responsible for the production and spread of propaganda within PEXDET. Your lies and manipulation of the truth are your tools for convincing and maintain the loyalty of Chinese peasants. With a quick flick of your silver tongue, you can convince the most stubborn or obtuse of player to see things your way; whether it’s in the town’s interest or not...
Aims: Your objectives have not changed, only you now have a lot more influence of achieving them, regardless of whether you are a Communist or not.
Methods: As you are now more important than other soldiers, you have been afforded more powerful equipment, thus giving you the edge in combat should you be attacked.
You can brainwash one comrade per night. Doing this will allow you to chose who that character will vote for tomorrow. You may choose for them to vote exactly the same way as you in the next day phase, or to vote for another player of your choice. You may change their choice as often as you like, since technically this process will be carried out all throughout the night and day, but I would appreciate it if you don’t spam me with PMs every time the wind changes.
Unfortunately, you have lost the ability to form protection and vig groups, as well as revolt against the Captain. Luckily, if you suspect that the Captain is a traitor (Or if you are a traitor, naturally), then you can mount a Coup against him with the other officers. The more officers you have partaking in the coup, the more likely it will be that you will be successful. The Chairman does not know about this ability!
Once Again, good luck.



You have been promoted to
Political Commissar (Cop)
Injustice is the fuel of war – Anthony Breach
Congratulations Comrade! You have been chosen by the Chairman to be the Political Commissar for the People’s Extraordinary Detachment. Your day job is that of maintain morale within PEXDET, making sure that Mao Zedong Thought is thoroughly entrenched within the soldiers and preventing revisionist deviation from the Revolutionary Line. But during the night, you have the authority to inspect the baggage and tents of your comrades, just to make sure that what comes out of their mouths is the same as what is in their head. Of course, if you have infiltrated the upper echelons of PEXDET leadership, then you may wish to just glance over some of the more incriminating evidence that your true allies may have. Should you find the task too trying to investigate everyone, you may appoint a deputy to aid you at your own discretion.
Aims: Your objectives have not changes, only you now have a lot more influence of achieving them, regardless of whether you are a Communist or not.
Methods: As you are now more important than other soldiers, you have been afforded more powerful equipment, thus giving you the edge in combat should you be attacked.
You have two investigations a night, within a three tier system. You may allocate these investigations to whoever you wish, including two on the same person. The first investigation reveals what weapons a comrade may have specialised in. The second investigation reveals if they are susceptible to anti-Marxist propaganda, whilst the final investigation reveals if they are true Communists or not.
You may also appoint a Deputy Commissar to aid you. He may investigate one person per night within a similar system. You can combine your investigations with his.
Unfortunately, you have lost the ability to form protection and vig groups, as well as revolt against the Captain. Luckily, if you suspect that the Captain is a traitor (Or if you are a traitor, naturally), then you can mount a Coup against him with the other officers. The more officers you have partaking in the coup, the more likely it will be that you will be successful. The Chairman does not know about this ability!
Once Again, good luck.




You have been promoted to
Director of Proletarian Justice (Roleblocker)
You don’t seem to understand. I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with ME! Rorschach
Congratulations Comrade! You have been chosen by the Chairman to be the Director for Proletarian Justice for PEXDET. You are the bruiser, the big guy. It is your responsibility to make sure that anyone who is suspected of being anti-people is prevented from doing so, possibly by having the crap kicked out of them, if necessary. Of course, if you are the one who happens to be anti-people, then disregard the previous advice.
Aims: Your objectives have not changed, only you now have a lot more influence of achieving them, regardless of whether you are a Communist or not.
Methods: As you are now more important than other soldiers, you have been afforded more powerful equipment, thus giving you the edge in combat should you be attacked.
You can block one person per night.
Unfortunately, you have lost the ability to form protection and vig groups, as well as revolt against the Captain. Luckily, if you suspect that the Captain is a traitor (Or if you are a traitor, naturally), then you can mount a Coup against him with the other officers. The more officers you have partaking in the coup, the more likely it will be that you will be successful. The Chairman does not know about this ability!
Once Again, good luck.




You have been chosen to be a
Deputy Commissar (Cop)
Innocence is always unsuspicious – Joseph Joubert
Congratulations Comrade! You have been chosen by the Political Commissar to aid him in his work! Isn’t that just great? Although you are not a proper officer, per se, you now command a certain level of prestige amongst your friends. Although you don’t know much about Marxism, except that they promise free stuff and a fight against the Japanese, you’re ready to work for the Commissar and do whatever he asks you to do!
Aims: Your objectives have not changed, only you now have a bit more influence of achieving them, regardless of whether you are a Communist or not.
Methods: You can investigate one comrade per night, within a three tier system. The first investigation reveals what weapons a comrade may have specialised in. The second investigation reveals if they are susceptible to anti-Marxist propaganda, whilst the final investigation reveals if they are true Communists or not. Your investigations are “synched” with the Political Commissar’s.
Once Again, good luck.



TOWN ROLES:
Your role is:

Female Communist

Ha ha! Oh, come on, Aerie! Lighten up, willya? I'll tell ya what, if I have any desires to murder you in the middle of the night, you'll be the first to know, okay? ~ Imoen

Greetings Comrade! As a young, well educated Chinese woman, you are that rare thing; a Chinese feminist. Disgusted by the behaviour of Soong Meiling, you were naturally drawn to the Communist Party’s promises of sexual equality. However, as China is still a society where sexism is well entrenched in every institution, regardless of ideology, you have had to impersonate a man both in order to join the Red Army, and to escape assault from the bandits in the countryside. You slashed your long hair, abandoned your female clothing and tied down your breasts. But what might seem to be inherent disadvantages might because of circumstances turn to your advantage. Your unique qualities allow you to “comfort” the stressed and exhausted men, and it is unlikely that a comrade drunk enough will be able to resist your charms, let alone remember who you are the next morning. More importantly, he will be prevented from undertaking any sort of counter-revolutionary activities that night. And if you’re lucky, as the men are both pretty unsatisfied as well as stupid, they may spend the next night doting about you, leaving them helpless the next night as well!

Your aims: The Survival of PEXDET is, like the rest of the Communists here, your main priority. Should you survive this long march, than you shall have a personal victory.

Your methods:

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Seduce: Effectively a roleblock, this is usable on one player per night. Chance of affecting the target the subsequent night as well.




Your role is:
Martial Arts Sifu
Strength is Happiness. Strength is itself victory. In weakness and cowardice there is no happiness. When you wage a struggle, you might win or you might lose. But regardless of the short-term outcome, the very fact of your continuing to struggle is proof of your victory as a human being.~ Daisaku Ikeda
Greetings Comrade! Like some of Chinese Communism’s greatest figures, you have a background in academic study of the Confucian Classics. Unlike them however, you had a special interest in martial arts, and developed your technique throughout your life in Canton. You became rather skilled, and rumors about your ability abounded (Your favourite one doing the rounds is that you managed to punch a man’s head so hard it exploded). After studying for the best part of twenty years, you were introduced to Communism by a former colleague. You sympathised with the ideas of social and economic equality, and thought that your skills in combat could be put to good use by the Red Army. You only just managed to reach the end of the Long March, but you were soon ready for action again, and eager to prove your worth to the Communists, you volunteered for this mission, not knowing that your skills would become essential to the cause of Chinese Communism and everyone in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment.
Your aims: You are in most respects an ordinary townie. But your skill in hand-to-hand combat makes you a force to be reckoned with, as your ability to disarm thugs of their weapons and beat the living crap out them means that any vigilante group you are attached to can bypass any natural defence your target may have.
Your methods:
Day: Lynch, Revolt
Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
If you join a vigilante group, then you can use a unique weapon, Kung Fu. There is no natural resistance to this attack, making it unstoppable. For example, say if Aemilius Paulus had a resistance to being attacked with knives, and you joined a vig group that decided to use knives to kill him (Not knowing that he had a resistance), if you sent in the order “Kill Aemilius Paulus with Kung Fu, along with A, B and C”, then the resistance which Aemilius Paulus has to knives is rendered useless, and poor Aemilius Paulus is chopped to pieces. (Note: The other members of the vig group send in their orders as normal, as they can’t use Kung Fu)
Good luck. You’ll need it.




Your Role is:

Comrade (Townie)

The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. ~ Karl Marx

Greetings Comrade! After toiling away for far too long in the rice paddies of China, with taxes sucking you dry to fuel the armies of first the warlords, then the Kuomintang, and now the Japanese, you’ve finally had enough. Communism’s promises have proved to be too much for you, with their promises of land reform and equality inspiring you, the humble peasant, you’re taking a stand against the forces of decadent capitalism and immoral imperialism. Unfortunately, the People’s Extraordinary Detachment has been infiltrated by those very forces, and even your closest comrades could be counter-revolutionaries! You must use guile, cunning, teamwork, and quite a bit of ruthlessness to unmask and punish the imperialist running dogs.

Your aims: The Survival of PEXDET. You will succeed in this if you manage to expose to the members of the KMT and the IJA and execute them, or if you manage to make it back to Yan’an. However, this will change if you are recruited by one of the above factions, in which case your goals will turn to the destruction of PEXDET, and the survival of the original members of that mafia.

Your methods: As a humble peasant, your abilities are limited. That does not necessarily mean you are unimportant though, as your votes and debate are needed to root out the Rightists.

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Good luck. You’ll need it.


Your role is:
Korean Communist (Miller)
Birds listen to day-words and rats listen to night-words - Korean Proverb*
Greetings Comrade! Unlike the others in PEXDET, you are not ethnically Chinese. Rather, you hail from Korea, which is currently enduring under Japanese rule. Wanting to overthrow your colonial masters, you escaped to Manchuria, and launched raids with fellow partisans across the Yalu River. During this period, you were introduced to Communism by Soviet middlemen who were supplying you with the weapons necessary to attack the Japanese. However, the establishment of the Manchukuo puppet state by the Japanese forced you to flee into China proper in 1931. Feeling no sympathy for the Chinese Nationalists, or for Syngman Rhee’s noisy talking shop, you joined the Red Army hoping that the establishment of a Red China would aid the spread of Marxism into Korea.
Unfortunately, the CPC is at least as nationalist as the Kuomintang, and you were met with distrust by most of the organization. Although this prejudice has prevented you from being given a position in command, in recognition of your skills you have been assigned to the elite People’s Extraordinary Detachment, a black ops force. You decided not to inform anyone in PEXDET of your Korean heritage, for fear of being ostracized. But the inherent xenophobia of the Chinese peasant has been escalated to racist paranoia by the stress of the retreat in PEXDET, and it is certain that should anyone investigate you that false allegations of guilt will be leveled at you. Should you confess your non-Chinese ethnicity, this will merely amount to a confession in the eyes of your comrades. You have no choice but to keep your blood a secret throughout the march.
Aims: The survival of PEXDET is your top priority; you may be a victim of prejudice, but you’re still a Communist. Personal survival will also result in an individual victory, but this is made substantially harder by the fact that should you be investigated, you will be “revealed” as guilty. On the bright side, your background means you feel no love towards the Japanese aggressors, and AS Chinese nationalism does not exactly fill your spirit with pride and you are thus non-susceptible to either faction.
Methods: You have the same abilities as an ordinary townie.
Day: Lynch, Revolt
Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) . All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
If you reveal yourself to be a Miller, I’ll WOG you, so watch out.
* Be careful of what you say, because there are always people around who may overhear you



Your Role is:

Fanatical Marxist (Bodyguard)

But it was not until the end of this long road that the Lone Wanderer learned the true meaning of that greatest of virtues – sacrifice. Stepping into the irradiated control chamber of Project Purity, the child followed the example of the father sacrificing life itself for the greater good of mankind. ~ Fallout 3

Greetings Comrade! Unlike many of your fellow Communists, you have experienced much of the outside world, traveling through Europe as a student like Deng Xiaoping. You visited London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, Warsaw and all the cities in between. In each one you experienced radical new ideas, blowing away your rigid Confucian perceptions of the world. But it was in Moscow that you found the most intoxicating ideology of all; Marxism-Leninism. You read Das Kapital nigh on unceasingly, only stopping to perform bodily functions or debate with other like-minded Communists. You became totally convinced of China’s need to have a revolution all of her own, and of her need to have you fight to liberate her. Returning to China, you became very active in the political department of the Communist Party of China, yet you desired more. Taking your rifle, you enlisted in the Red Army, showing your willingness to die fighting imperialists. A little too willing in fact. The attack on Heihui Chen finally broke your already strained nerves and you now are determined to die fighting imperialists. You’re not suicidal however, as you wish to die with your knife in hand and your jaws around a counter-revolutionary’s throat.

Your aims: The survival of PEXDET, if that wasn’t already clear. As a pro-town role, you need to eliminate all members of the KMT and the IJA. However, certain kinds of death will not result in a personal loss; rather, they will be a personal victory.

Your methods: By day, you are an ordinary Comrade

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: You may protect one person per night. Your suicidal tendencies and slight craziness means you can undertake this alone. However, should the individual you are protecting get attacked during the night, then you will die in his place, sacrificing yourself for Socialism. Should this happen, then your memory will be venerated by the other members of PEXDET, and you shall gain a personal victory. If you survive, then you shall gain a personal draw. But if you are lynched, or killed by any other means during the night, you will be merely forgotten, and you will suffer a personal defeat.



You can also participate in:

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Good luck. You’ll need it.



Your role is:

Whampoa Military Academy Graduate

When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived. ~ Lieutenant Raczak

Greetings Comrade! You are a long suffering revolutionary, hardened by conflict and skilled in battle. You were an early member of the Kuomintang, who subscribed to Sun Yat-Sen’s “Three Principles” of democracy, nationalism and people’s livelihood. Inspired by this you enrolled at the Whampoa Military Academy in Canton, in order to gain the knowledge necessary to unite China and cast out the barbarians. You were first exposed to the ideology of Communism there by your Soviet instructors, sent by Comintern to help liberate China, and finding it electrifying, you soon joined the Communist Party of China. Flush with pride just prior to the Northern Expedition, due to Chiang Kai-Shek himself shaking your hand, you performed brilliantly in the campaign to unite China, often planning, leading and winning the charge against the warlord “armies”.
Unfortunately, these successes were not enough to help you escape the White Terror. Being a member of the Communist Party carried a death sentence in 1927, and you escaped the death squads in Wuhan only by jumping into the Yangtze and floating downriver. You managed to regroup with other fellow Communists, and your ability in combat and burning desire for vengeance got you assigned to the elite People’s Extraordinary Detachment.

Your aims: Your training as an Officer Cadet at Whampoa has greatly helped your combat skills, and you have a minimum 50% survival rate when attacked in a night order by a group using either firearms or blades. Other than that though, you are a typical comrade and townie.

Your methods:

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Good luck. You’ll need it.



Your role is:
Swordsman
And that I swear I don’t have a gun. No, I don’t have a gun. ~ Kurt Cobain
Greetings Comrade! You are a veteran of the army of the warlord Zhang Zongchan, the “Dogmeat General”. Although the experience in combat allowed you to gain experience of life on campaign and how to effectively steal from villagers, there weren’t enough arms to go around Zhang’s army. Instead, you were forced to use an old sword, a dao. You found that you were actually pretty decent with it, and you spurned all offers of modern firearms to continue chopping your foes to bits.
When Zhang was defeated by the Kuomintang, you fled from Shandong south to Jiangxi. There, you met Communists for the first time, and sympathized not so much with their revolutionary struggle, but the ability to rip the Kuomintang to pieces. You joined the Communist Party in its darkest hour and you participated on the Long March to Yan’an, beheading and dismembering many a reactionary Kuomintang on the way. Now, as you find yourself beset by enemies on all sides, your sabre is the only friend you can really trust.
Your aims: You are in most respects an ordinary townie. But your skill in knife combat, and especially your aptitude with your Dao make you a fearsome opponent, and should anyone be foolish enough to test your abilities in melee, you will emerge victorious. However, you have neglected your skills with those new fangled boomsticks, and death is almost certain if you are confronted by a villain packing heat. Your resistance to knife attacks has no impact on your ability at vigging.
Your methods:
Day: Lynch, Revolt
Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Good luck. You’ll need it.


Your Role is:
Secret Policeman (Tracker)
Political criticism is our enemies' best friend. - Bernard Kerik
Greeting Comrade! You are a loyal Party member who has repeatedly shown both his commitment to the struggle of the working class and cunning in weaselling out those who would betray our cause. Thus, you have been appointed by the leadership in Yan-an as a Secret Policeman, to watch over PEXDET and make sure that no anti-people elements infiltrate the Party. Although you were expecting just a simple job of arresting and beating anyone who was caught with KMT propaganda, the situation has developed into something far more serious.
Your life and the life of every other Communist in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment is at risk from two counter-revolutionary forces, and it is essential that your skills in detecting reactionary thought are utilised to the full in defending PEXDET from its enemies.
Your aims: Town victory.
Your methods: You are a cop, able to track one person per night. You know that there are an unknown number of other policemen in the Company, and it is advised that you find them as quickly as possible in order to co-ordinate your efforts.
Day: Lynch, Revolt
Night: Track. This will reveal to you who they visited at night, but not what they were doing.
Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Good luck. You’ll need it.



Your role is:
Soviet Student
Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed ~ Stalin
Greetings Comrade! You are a hardcore Communist, one of the star pupils of the Chinese Communist Party and a loyal follower of Mao Zedong. During the late twenties you were one of a handful picked to go study in Moscow to help sow Communism in China. You excelled in both Marxist theory and rifle training, and were one of the best shots in all of Moscow Sun Yat-Sen University. You were assigned to the People’s Extraordinary Detachment as a political commissar, in order to oversee that Captain Subotan did not deviate from his orders, and to make sure that no good Communists were corrupted by the vile Kuomintang. You found your marksmanship to be far more useful though, especially during the attack on Heihui Chen when you lost count of the amount of Japanese soldiers you managed to dispatch.
Your aims: You are in nearly all ways a normal townie role. However, your experiences in Moscow have allowed you to hone your skills in combat under the tutelage of professionals. Thus, if you are attacked by someone using firearms during the night, you stand a 100% chance of survival. Unfortunately, your reflexes were never quite as good as your aim, and you are helpless in the face of killers bearing knives. Your resistance has no bearing on your skill at vigging.
Your methods:
Day: Lynch, Revolt
Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Good luck. You’ll need it.

KUOMINTANG
Your role is:
Kuomintang Colonel (Mafia boss)
The Japanese are a disease of the skin, but the Communists are a disease of the heart – Chiang Kai Shek
You are a Colonel of the National Revolutionary Army, the land forces of the sole legitimate government of China and the army of the only legal political organisation in China, the Kuomintang. Working your way up through the ranks, over the past twenty years you have transformed from just a mere skilled sharpshooter into a rock hard bastard. You have plotted, fought and murdered your way to the top. Well, almost the top. You strive to reach the upper echelons of the Nationalist command structure, to gain command of armies of hundreds of thousands of men and thereby a power base for yourself. And from there, who knows? Perhaps you could convince the Generalissimo to retire; intentionally or not.
But to get there, you need a wild, daring and fantastically successful operation where you can demonstrate your cunning, skill and bravery. And what could be better than to go into the belly of the beast, by infiltrating a Marxist battalion? You plan to gain intelligence about the organisational structure, logistical capability and the morale of the Communists, as well as destroy this particular force. You picked Psychonaut and Nictel to serve as underlings in your quest for power, and they have served you well thus far. Co-operation and unity are essential if you purge the disease of Marxism from the sacred soil of China for ever.
Your aims: The complete and utter extermination of all Communists in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, as well as the imperialist Japanese bandits. (I.e. scum victory)
Your methods: You have a wide variety of techniques at your disposal.
Day: Lynch, Revolt.
Night: Your Corporals can work together to investigate, whilst you can convert or roleblock solo. All three of you must work together to kill, however.
In the event that your number increases due to conversion, then you only require the three non-Colonel KMT members to kill, allowing the Colonel to submit a separate order. If the Colonel is killed, all of the Corporals must work together to investigate, kill, or convert (The ability to roleblock is lost permanently). In the event that a Corporal is killed, then your abilities continue as normal. (PM me for clarification if this isn’t clear)
You may also participate in standard townie groups at night in place of your standard actions. Only one faction member may be present in each group:
Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
However, you may choose to allow any group action you participate in to fail or not, by sending a PM to me indicating whether you wish to sabotage it.
And should you and the townies you are working with form a clique, you are able to participate in that clique’s actions AND still send in your standard mafia orders.
As you are a totally badass mass murderer, you are able to fend off the first attack that any vig group foolish enough to attempt to kill you launches. However, after Night Five, the marching will have taken its toll, and you will have to choose one weapon with which to concentrate your defensive training on.
Good luck. You’ll need it.


Your role is:
Kuomintang Corporal (Mafia)
Communism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom – Liberty Prime
You are a humble soldier of the National Revolutionary Army, the land forces of the sole legitimate government of China, and the army of the only legal political organisation in China, the Kuomintang. You enlisted shortly after the establishment of the Republic in order to escape the banditry and suffering in the countryside. You have since served on numerous campaigns, mainly against warlords, before taking part in the colossal War of Resistance. You fought at Shanghai, Nanking and Wuhan, before being chosen along with Nictel by a Colonel, Thermal Mercury, to infiltrate a rogue unit of the United Front who were plotting to disrupt Nationalist supply lines.
You managed to inform Colonel Bei Bi in Heihui Chen of the impending Japanese attack, allowing him to retreat, leaving the Reds to feel the brunt of the fighting. Escaping with the survivors, your objective now is to totally wipe out the remaining Bolsheviks, thereby gaining intelligence for use by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek to launch a final offensive against the Communist and purge the disease of Marxism from the sacred soil of China for ever.
Your aims: The complete and utter extermination of all Communists in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, as well as the imperialist Japanese bandits. (I.e. scum victory)
Your methods: You have a wide variety of techniques at your disposal.
Day: Lynch, Revolt.
Night: You can investigate to determine someone’s susceptibility, as well as kill Commies. You must work with Nictel to investigate someone, whilst your Colonel can convert or roleblock by himself. All three of you must work together to kill an individual, however.
In the event that your number increases due to conversion, then you only require the three non-Colonel KMT members to kill, allowing your Colonel to submit a separate order. If the Colonel is killed, all of the Corporals must work together to investigate, kill, or convert (The ability to roleblock is lost permanently). In the event that a Corporal is killed, then your abilities continue as normal. (PM me for clarification if this isn’t clear)
You may also participate in standard townie groups at night in place of your standard mafia actions. Only one faction member may be present in each group:
Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a player successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.
However, you may choose to allow any group action you participate in to fail or not, by sending a PM to me indicating whether you wish to sabotage it.
And should you and the townies you are working with form a clique, you are able to participate in that clique’s actions AND still send in your standard mafia orders.
As an added bonus, thanks to your (admittedly rudimentary) training, you are sort of skilled in Guns, and thus you are immune to the any attack anyone makes on you using Firearms
Good luck. You’ll need it.


JAPANESE
Your role is

Kempeitai Colonel (Mafia boss)

It is only natural for China to sacrifice itself for the sake of Japan’s social and industrial needs. Fumimaro Konoe

こんにちは! You are a senior officer of the Japanese Secret Police, and one of the most ruthless individuals in the most ruthless organisation in the Japanese military. Rumours about the presence of someone of your standing strike fear into Asians and Westerners alike. You have slowly ground your way to the top of the Kempeitai, and you have developed a reputation within that organisation as a merciless force of nature. You have no regrets about the hundreds of corpses that lie in your wake, as their deaths were the Will of the Emperor. And the Will of the Emperor must always be done.

The Kempeitai intercepted Chinese communications to learn that a United Front brigade was planning to launch from an attack that was intended to seize a section of the Yangtze River, and thus cut off Japanese troops who were valiantly fighting in Wuhan to liberate the Chinese from themselves. An infiltration was planned, and you volunteered for the mission, eager to show both your ruthlessness when dealing with the Chinese, and your ferocious Anti-Communism. You picked two Japanese Corporals to help you in your endeavours, and you managed to successfully both infiltrate the group and give away their position to the Imperial Army, hence the attack by the IJA in Heihui Chen. You and the others managed to escape the carnage early, and you have now changed your objectives. With the survival of some of the Communists, it has become necessary to stay undercover until they and their threat to the Emperor are eliminated. For that is the Emperor’s Will.

Aims: The extermination of all Communists present in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, and the eradication of illegitimate forces claiming to fight for a “Kuomintang”. (I.e. Scum victory)

Methods: You have many methods available to you to help eliminate the insurgents.

Day: Revolt, Lynch

Night: You can investigate to determine someone’s susceptibility, as well as convince Chinese of the merits of Japanese civilization. You can kill or roleblock solo, whilst your Corporals must work with each other to investigate someone. All three of you must work together to convert an individual though, as the Chinese can be awful stubborn in resisting our benevolence.


In the event that your number increases due to conversion, then you only require the three non-Colonel IJA members to kill, allowing you to submit a separate order. If the Colonel is killed, all of the Corporals must work together to investigate, kill, or convert (The ability to roleblock is lost permanently). In the event that a Corporal is killed, then your abilities continue as normal. (PM me for clarification if this doesn’t make sense)

You may also participate in standard townie groups at night in place of your standard mafia actions. Only one member of your faction may infiltrate each group:

Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

However, you may choose to allow any group action you participate in to fail or not, by sending a PM to me indicating whether you wish to sabotage it. And should you and the townies you are working with form a clique, you are able to participate in that clique’s actions AND still send in your standard mafia orders.

As you are a totally badass mass murderer, you are able to fend off the first attack that any vig group foolish enough to attempt to kill you tries. However, after Night Five, the marching will have taken its toll, and you will have to choose one weapon with which to concentrate your defensive training on.

Your Quicktopic Codename is Honshu.

Good luck. You’ll need it.




Your role is:

Japanese Corporal (Mafia)

It is Japan’s Divine Mission to assist the Chinese people ~ Ishiwara Kanji.

こんにちは! As a soldier of the Imperial Japanese Army, you have been campaigning in China since the start of the war a year ago. You were present at the fall of Shanghai and Nanking, and you have seen and done things that most other men would balk at. But you are not like other men, as you are a loyal subject of the Emperor, and if the Emperor commands you to help the Chinese people reach the same state of civilisation as the Japanese, then you must, regardless of the means used to achieve this penultimate goal.

Along with Corporal Sigurd, you were handpicked by Colonel Renata in the middle of struggle to liberate Wuhan to serve on a mission to infiltrate a rabble of Bolsheviks who threatened the Divine Mission by replacing it with a “Dictatorship of the Proletariat”. Although you do not care to read any Marxist nonsense, what you do know is that Communists seek to depose the Emperor; something that you could never allow. You are prepared to lay down your life to stop these fools, who would willingly destroy the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere and the peace that Japan has created.

Aims: The extermination of all Communists present in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, and the eradication of illegitimate forces claiming to fight for a “Kuomintang”. (I.e. Scum victory)

Methods: You have many methods available to you to help eliminate the insurgents.

Day: Revolt, Lynch

Night: You can investigate to determine someone’s susceptibility, as well as convince Chinese of the merits of Japanese civilization. You must work with Sigurd to investigate someone, whilst your Colonel can kill or roleblock solo. All three of you must work together to convert an individual, as the Chinese can be awful stubborn in resisting our benevolence.

In the event that your number increases due to conversion, then you only require the three non-Colonel IJA members to kill, allowing you to submit a separate order. If the Colonel is killed, all of the Corporals must work together to investigate, kill, or convert (The ability to roleblock is lost permanently). In the event that a Corporal is killed, then your abilities continue as normal. (Ask me in Quicktopic me for clarification if this doesn’t make sense)

You may also participate in standard townie groups at night in place of your standard mafia actions. Only one member of your faction may infiltrate each group:

Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

However, you may choose to allow any group action you participate in to fail or not, by sending a PM to me indicating whether you wish to sabotage it. And should you and the townies you are working with form a clique, you are able to participate in that clique’s actions AND still send in your standard mafia orders.

As an added bonus, due to your relentless training and drilling, you are extremely skilled in using swords, and thus you are immune to the any attack anyone makes on you using Blades.

Good luck. You’ll need it.

OTHER
Your role is:

Rogue Trotskyite (Duelist)

A sledgehammer breaks glass but forges steel. – Trotsky

Greeting Comrade! You are a one of the few members of the Fourth International left in China, mainly thanks to your cunning and sleuth. You were originally an important voice within the Communist Party of China, arguing the necessity of permanent revolution and denouncing the United Front that had been formed with the Kuomintang. Pressure by Stalin forced all the Trotskyites out of the Party, and most who did not repent were shot. But not you. Donning facial hair that is uncannily similar to Trotsky’s, you managed to evade the purge, and slipped into the slums of Shanghai. From there, grinning with satisfaction that your prediction that the Kuomintang would turn on the Stalinists turned out to be true, you plotted to strike at your turncoat former Trotskyites, and the most hardline Stalinists with the Party. Embarking on an assassination campaign, you murdered some of the most prominent Communists in China. Whilst preparing in Shanghai for your masterstroke, the assassination of Mao Zedong himself, two thugs burst into your room in the Peace Hotel, brandishing handguns. Despite the bullets slamming into the paneling behind you, you managed to draw your revolver and fire off a round into the first goon’s chest, and a second into his stomach. The gangster began to sink to his knees, but he was caught by his partner who made futile attempts to stop the bleeding. Seizing your chance, you kicked a hole in the window pane beside you, and jumped down onto a dumpster. You then managed to escape Shanghai disguised as a Kuomintang officer.

This was followed by a game of cat and mouse which lasted three years, with the crazed survivor hunting you across China, whilst you continued wage a one man war against leading Stalinists. You eventually tired of this, and enlisted in the Red Army in 1937, to both provide cover and become close to Mao Zedong. To your dismay, you were deployed on a mission that sent you as far away from Mao as possible, and even more alarmingly, it appears that the secret agent is in the same force as you! Although it is not impossible that he was killed in the attack on Heihui Chen, you have to be prepared for every eventuality. He knows of your plans to kill Mao, and it is essential that should you wish to carry out those plans that he be eliminated.

Aims: Your primary goal is the liquidation of the Vengeful Special Agent, a player who wants you dead by his hand.

You are neither pro-mafia, nor pro-town, but the IJA and the KMT are more likely to scalp you than treat you with kindness. Bonus points and will be awarded if you can finish the game as an officer, or even better, the Chairman, as it will certainly allow you to get close to the Stalinist leadership in Yan’an.

Methods:

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Spy: you can investigate three members per night to see if they are the honour-bound nutter. However, your need to focus on personal safety means that any evidence that you encounter that suggests that the target is counter-revolutionary may be overlooked. Should you kill the Vengeful Secret Agent, then you shall lose this ability.

Assassinate: This is a one man vig kill, which allows you to kill someone you suspect of being the scoundrel, or mafia scum. Be warned though; killing innocents is incriminating, and the paranoid nature of PEXDET may see innocent blood on your hands as malevolent intent.

You also have the following abilities

Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

One shot immunity – As your murdering spree has left you skilled in the art of combat, if anyone other than the agent attempts to kill you, be they scum or town, then you will be able to survive the first attack they make against you, regardless of the weapons they use.

***

I’m really leaving how you play the game, should you survive the agent’s molestations, up to you. You can become a de facto pro-town role, and help catch the reactionaries and save PEXDET. I’m guessing this would be your course of action if you worm your way into the officer corps.

Alternatively, you could become a serial killer role. However, in the aftermath of the agent’s death, you must pm me as to which course you wish to take. Once you’ve made your choice, you can’t go back.

Your role is:

Vengeful Special Agent (Duelist)

Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that none of his predictions have yet come true. ~ Isaac Deutscher

Greetings Comrade! You are a unique member of the People’s Extraordinary Detachment; well, almost. Over the past few years, across China, there has been a series of assassinations of leading Communists. Although at first it was thought this was the work of the counter-revolutionary Kuomintang, a trend was soon noticed. All the victims were either exceptionally hardline Stalinists, or ex-Trotskyites. A copy of a work by Chen Duxiu at the scene of one of the crimes quickly confirmed that this rogue assassin was an extreme Trotskyite, and was liquidating loyal Communists who were either presenting a threat to his heretical beliefs or had seen the error of their ways. You and your brother, good detectives who had protected many Socialists in the White Terror were assigned to hunt this maniac down. You tracked him for six months, until you came upon the sophisticated Peace Hotel in Shanghai. Unfortunately, the devil was tipped off and he not only managed to kill your brother in the ensuing firefight, but escaped whilst your brother died in your arms. Swearing vengeance, you have hunted the goatee adorned dog across China incessantly. You know him to be in the People’s Extraordinary Detachment. You know that you will not be satisfied until he dies by your hand or you by his. Your victory can only come through revenge, the only form of justice available to all men.

Your aims: As stated above, your primary goal is to kill the Rogue Trotskyite, a non-aligned player of this game who is out to cause as much chaos as possible. You are a pro-town member of the game though, and you want PEXDET to get to Yan’an almost as much as everyone else does. Survival would also be nice, but all that matters is that the Trotskyite you duel to the Trotskyite; to the death if needs be.

Your methods: You are a modified version of a cop

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Spy: you can investigate three members per night to see if they are the traitor. However, your zealous obsession with hunting down the Trotskyite has meant that your attention for details which might incriminate other criminals is…fuzzy, to say the least. But should you kill the Trotskyite, than you shall revert to being a normal cop.

Assassinate: This is a one man vig kill, which allows you to kill someone you suspect of being the scoundrel.
Be warned though; killing innocents is incriminating, and the paranoid nature of PEXDET may see innocent blood on your hands as malevolent intent. This ability disappears after the Trotskyite is dead

As pro-town, you also have the following abilities

Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms). All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

One shot immunity – As your hunting has left you skilled in the art of combat, if anyone other than the Trotskyite attempts to kill you, be they scum or town, then you will be able to survive the first attack they make against you, regardless of the weapons they use.


Your Role is:

Power-Hungry Megalomaniac

A prince ought to have no other aim or thought, nor select anything else for his study, than war and its rules and discipline; for this is the sole art that belongs to him who rules, and it is of such force that it not only upholds those who are born princes, but it often enables men to rise from a private station to that rank ~ Machiavelli

Greetings Comrade! For as long as you can remember, you have been consumed by a lust for power, regardless of its nature. Joining the Communist party in the late 20’s, you figured that they were the force that would come to control China, as there is far more potential for support for Communism in the endless fields of China than there is for wishy-washy “nationalism”. You rose to quite a high position in the Communist Party, but you made a near politically-fatal mistake when you became too close to Zhang Wetian, and were isolated in a similar fashion to him when Mao rose to power.

You decided to gain experience in military matters, but your political contacts were weaker than you thought, as when you applied to join the Red Army, you were assigned the position of a mere corporal! Although you were luckily assigned to an elite force, the People’s Extraordinary Detachment, you are burning with a desire to correct this injustice. You plotted against Captain Subotan, and were most amused when he was shot dead. Now, with the proposal of elections, this is your chance to seize power and lead PEXDET to victory, giving you the prestige and military clout you need to take on Mao, and seize China for yourself.

Your aims: You are one of the more complicated roles, and it’s hard to say how you are aligned. Although your usual night and day orders are the same as those of the ordinary townie, you have specific goals and ways to achieve them which prevent you from being labeled a pure pro-town. Your goals are to survive, and lead PEXDET as the Chairman to victory. Although surviving as an Officer will be a partial victory, ending as an ordinary townie will result in a defeat.

As you regard Communism to be a bit utopian, ideology isn’t something you’re concerned with. Thus, if you become Chairman, and you feel that your position is threatened, you can make deals with either the KMT or the IJA, should you know how to contact them. Should you wish to pursue this treacherous deal, you will become worth two scum in the tally of Rightists/Town, as your treachery will allow you to surprise your comrades. Should this new, altered tally of imperialists ever outnumber the town, then the town will be slaughtered, whilst you will be allowed to make it back to Yan’an to tell of your heroic struggle against the imperialists. This would result in as much of a personal victory as if you had won under usual circumstances.

This is of course something that should only be used if you feel that your demise is imminent, either from within or external factors. Should anyone suspect your treachery and investigate you, then your deception will be exposed, and you’ll meet a grisly demise.

It’s important to note that you will gain no less of a victory by leading the Communists to a glorious triumph over the Imperialists, than by betraying them.

Methods: In addition to the “Betrayal” mechanic listed above, you have the same abilities as a normal townie.

Day: Lynch, Revolt

Night: Protection group- This requires at least three people, including you, to defend a fellow Communist successfully. All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

Vigilante Group- A vigilante group requires at least five people to assassinate a counter-revolutionary. You must all pick the same weapon to use (Blades/Firearms) All PM’s must match for it to be successful.

You also possess a one-shot solo “Assassination” kill that may be used on an Officer (But not the Chairman or the Deputy) that has a 100% chance of success, in case your movements up the greasy pole of politics need a little boost…

Good luck. You’ll need it.


Your role is:

Deranged Anarchist (Serial Killer)

Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich. ~ Peter Ustinov

Anarchism has had an influential history in modern China. The idea that all government is tyranny, whether native or foreign chimed with many a Chinese student who was exacerbated with the Manchu Dynasty as much as the foreign devils. The lack of an industrialised economy meant that the struggle of the working class and the exploitation of the proletariat by the bourgeois as proclaimed by Marx weren’t really apparent. Anarchism thus became a vehicle for anti-Q’ing expression in the 1910’s, and movements such as the violent Paris Group and the moderate Guangzhou Group became important political forces, with yourself considering the latter to be more viable. You worked in the anarchist movement for many years, and you became adamant in your belief that peaceful means are the only way to create a legitimate anarchist society.

But by 1938, anarchism is a dying philosophy. The Spanish Civil War has brutally exposed the fundamental weaknesses of anarchism, and its inability in effectively organizing to external threats. In China, the Chinese have experienced enough of life without a central government, and have found it to be not as desirable as had been promised. However, you are undeterred, and remain as committed to the anarchist cause as ever. But having being persecuted for nearly two decades has placed you under severe strain, as has joining the Red Army to try to escape persecution for your beliefs. The attack on Heihui Chen has caused something to snap, and you have rediscovered the old principle of the “propaganda of the deed”. Your thoughts have become so twisted that you now believe that a sustained bombing campaign in PEXDET is the only way to bring back national attention to anarchism in China, and free the Chinese people from tyranny.

Aims: You are neither pro-town, nor pro-mafia. Your goal is to murder as many people as possible, regardless of affiliation. That said, if the KMT discover you, they’ll shoot you dead on the spot, and the IJA aren’t likely to be much nicer. Although it is unlikely that you will survive, what matters the infamy is caused by your heroic struggle, and the prestige you gain from killing minions of tyrants. Should you manage to purge a great deal of the Stalinists, then your name shall go down in history as a hero of Chinese anarchism. And who knows? Maybe the Chinese will rediscover their lost passion for freedom from tyranny, and for embrace anarchism once more.

Methods: You can participate in the normal daily and nightly activities of a townie.

During the night, you can join both vig or protection groups, as a normal townie. But the majority of the time, you will want to assassinate people, using either guns or knives.

However, you have a unique method of eliminating the statists. You were responsible for guarding the munitions depot in Heihui Chen prior to the attack, and you managed to stuff various chemical sand explosives into your pack before you fled. This allows you at night to kill someone with a bomb; a method impossible to guard against. Most importantly, should the target be guarded by a protection group, your explosion will kill one of the protectors in the ensuing fireball. Unfortunately, you only have enough explosive to manufacture three bombs, so they should be used sparingly. Should you manage to use all three bombs, and kill a protector with each of them, then the prestige of your acts, and therefore that of your personal victory will be much increased.

Good Luck. Of all the people in PEXDET, you probably need it most.


I'll give out 3 MVPs, if I may. GeneralHankerchief deserves one for seizing his chance and playing the role of serial killer with his balls to the wall. His was probably the role I expected to fall flat on it's face after a few rounds, yet he propelled it to the centre of game. Renata also deserves one for taking the leadership role of the IJA and using it to run a very tight ship, yet one which listened to it's members. Again, you played at the centre of the decision making process, which was a risky strategy that probably would have paid off. Last, but not least, Captain Blackadder deserves one for managing to nail scum in practically every track he did, whilst managing to stay discreet, and alive. You worked out that cliques were actually an anti-town trap as well to boot. Exactly how town playing should work, in the absence of networks.

Please tell me your thoughts on the game. I want to hear about everything, including writing style, design, theme, roles, whatever. I hope you enjoyed it, but I will not mind if you tell that you didn't, especially since I disappeared mid-game.

Although I would like to say that this was my return to the gameroom with a splendid mafia future in front of me, I have to say that it isn't. I'm at Oxford University now (ABZF didn't hinder my school exams at all :D), and I simply do not have the time to take part in any games during term time. I have to write 7,500 words every two weeks, plus do all the reading, plus go to lectures, plus go to societies, plus find time to relax PLUS find time to get absolutely tanked. There isn't the time to slip in mafia, unfortunately. I may, MAY, have time during the holidays, but it would not be for the biggest games, and my output would likely be minimal (I have to do reading in the holidays). But I do hope that the gameroom will continue to have mafia played in it for many years to come.

Ant

[Subotan]

Name ----------------- Role --------- Susceptible
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Cute Wolf</td> <td class="xl79">Agent</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl69" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">5. Sigurd</td> <td class="xl70">IJA Grunt (G)</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl91" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">6. YLC</td> <td class="xl70">IJA Grunt (S)</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">7. Renata</td> <td class="xl70">IJA Colonel</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl81" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">8. Psychonaut</td> <td class="xl78">KMT Grunt (G)</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl77" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">9. Nictel</td> <td class="xl78">KMT Grunt (S)</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl77" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">10. askthepizzaguy</td> <td class="xl78">KMT Colonel (G)</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">11. Captain Blackadder</td> <td>Secret Tracker</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">12. taka</td> <td>Secret Watcher</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">13. spL1tp3r50naL1ty</td> <td>Korean</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl74" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">14. ACIN</td> <td class="xl75">Female</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">KMT/IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">15. Beefy187</td> <td>Fanatic</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl89" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">16. Yaseikhaan</td> <td class="xl75">Kung Fu</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">17. Beskar</td> <td>Whampoa</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl86" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">18. TheFlax</td> <td>Whampoa</td> <td class="xl65">KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl94" style="height: 15pt; border-top: medium none;" height="20">19. Wishazu</td> <td>Soviet</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl88" style="height: 15pt; border-top: medium none;" height="20">20. ArpeggiateTHIS</td> <td>Soviet</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl92" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">21. Double A</td> <td>Swordsman</td> <td>KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">22. landlubber</td> <td>Swordsman</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl84" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">23. Seamus Fermanagh</td> <td class="xl75">Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl85" style="height: 15pt; border-top: medium none;" height="20">24. Death is yonder</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">25. Azathoth</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">26. wideyedwanderer</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">27. Secura</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td>IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl74" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">28. autolycus</td> <td class="xl75">Comrade</td> <td>-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl83" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">29. Pinman</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl90" style="height: 15pt; border-top: medium none;" height="20">30. miotas</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">31. Joooray</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl93" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">32. AVSM</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">33. M3YUZ</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">KMT</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">34. Sasaki</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">35. Cultured Drizzt fan</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl74" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">36. Jolt</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">37. Niklas</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">38. shlin28</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">IJA</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl95" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">39. Romanic</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl66" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">-</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl80" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">40. Winston Hughes</td> <td>Comrade</td> <td class="xl65">-</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

PLUS find time to get absolutely tanked.

This part made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I would argue, however, that you COULD fit SOME time in to have a few games. I mean, I am at Leeds so I have no idea of your workload over at Oxford, but work hard/play hard? Besides, we're first years anyway and learning isn't our number one objective.

[Subotan]

I'm already working, playing and drinking hard. There simply isn't any room for mafia :(

[Secura]

Please tell me your thoughts on the game. I want to hear about everything, including writing style, design, theme, roles, whatever. I hope you enjoyed it, but I will not mind if you tell that you didn't, especially since I disappeared mid-game.

The writeups were fascinating; as a historian, I found myself engrossed in how you applied real-life events into a 'fictional' setting and still maintained the relevance... I tried looking for inaccuracies and such but there really wasn't anything to call you out on; from both a fictional and historical perspective, it was fantastic. In the same breath, the depth of the role PMs was impressive and actually served as an immersive conduit for the whole experience... kudos, Subochan. :P

However, I do have to say that I found the game to be utterly boring for me, though that's not through any fault of your own, but due to the fact I was killed within two seconds of it starting; not really something that one wishes to happen for a game they'd been looking forward to since they signed up to the Org, I have to say. :3


I have to write 7,500 words every two weeks, plus do all the reading, plus go to lectures, plus go to societies, plus find time to relax PLUS find time to get absolutely tanked. There isn't the time to slip in mafia, unfortunately.

That's one heck of a heavy workload, but then it is Oxford... congratulations, by the way!

Going out and getting drunk is probably the part I miss most about university, particularly as I've been completely sober (bar the odd bottle of Jacques or Kopparberg here and there) since returning home and my only friend back here, Beskar, doesn't drink at all. :<

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Beskar doesn't drink at all. :<

He...he WHAT? Why so? (I'd ask him but he's off to Middle Earth today isn't he?)

[Joooray]

I'll have to second Secura there, the write ups were awesome and even on their own just a very good read. I also liked the event system, because it was something that shook up the normal routine of how mafia game goes.
However it seems that a few bad choices in the beginning might have lost the game for the town already at that point. Not sure how this can be averted and if the town could have turned it around, but it's something to consider.

All the best in Oxford and good luck with the workload, hope you'll see it through.

[Secura]

He...he WHAT? Why so? (I'd ask him but he's off to Middle Earth today isn't he?)

He doesn't drink alcohol whatsoever, doesn't appeal to him; me, on the other hand... xD

And yush, he headed off to Israel last week; he'll be back on the 30th. :3


However it seems that a few bad choices in the beginning might have lost the game for the town already at that point. Not sure how this can be averted and if the town could have turned it around, but it's something to consider.

Look no further than those who voted a serial killer to be the town leader, really; I knew Beskar was innocent, and felt I wouldn't make an adequate leader, which is why I pushed for him to be Chairman instead... his innocence was the only one I could be certain of beside my own. I had no idea GH was a serial killer though, but it teaches you all not to trust someone who edits posts. :P

Dying that early when I'd hyped myself up for the game sucked no matter what spin one puts on it, though.

[Subotan]

The writeups were fascinating; as a historian, I found myself engrossed in how you applied real-life events into a 'fictional' setting and still maintained the relevance... I tried looking for inaccuracies and such but there really wasn't anything to call you out on; from both a fictional and historical perspective, it was fantastic. In the same breath, the depth of the role PMs was impressive and actually served as an immersive conduit for the whole experience... kudos, Subochan. :P
Thank you. The story telling part of the game was the part I enjoyed most. However, I can't write death scenes, and I found it really hard to write ones that were acceptable (Trust me, the ones you saw were the best I could manage). I also utilised Hergé's maxim of using as many "real" objects and circumstances to tell the story, to help you get immersed in it.



However, I do have to say that I found the game to be utterly boring for me, though that's not through any fault of your own, but due to the fact I was killed within two seconds of it starting; not really something that one wishes to happen for a game they'd been looking forward to since they signed up to the Org, I have to say. :3
I'm sorry you found that, but as you said that was beyond my control. If I ever (and that's a long shot) ever make a se/pre-quel (I have a few ideas.......) then you could always play in that.



That's one heck of a heavy workload, but then it is Oxford... congratulations, by the way!




All the best in Oxford and good luck with the workload, hope you'll see it through.
Thanks a lot :D The workload is tough, but it's what I'm really interested in, so it all balances out.

And as a sidenote, I found out the other day that Bonn is a twin city of Oxford :O


However it seems that a few bad choices in the beginning might have lost the game for the town already at that point. Not sure how this can be averted and if the town could have turned it around, but it's something to consider.

The game was designed to make networking hard, and my original intent for the game was that it would "break the network" of townies that always seemed to form. Given the lager amount of officers, the potential for a coup, a role who was designed to manipulate the officers (Chaotix's megalomaniac), etc. infiltration was something that was practically guaranteed, and something you would have to deal with. Unfortunately for you, you unknowingly made a series of bad choices that really restricted you.

[Joooray]

And as a sidenote, I found out the other day that Bonn is a twin city of Oxford :O

It indeed is, however our university is not as good, but then again the workload isn't anywhere close to yours so I guess that balances that. :wink:
I guess those are still very fitting partner cities. From what I can gather by seeing Oxford in the telly (mainly this one British crime series set in Oxford, not sure about the name) it seems like a smaller but beautiful city that actually doesn't look like it could be the hub of intelligencia it is, right? The same applies to Bonn, though it's prime is somewhat in the past when it still was the capital of Germany. (We are still a United Nations city, mind you. :wink: )

[Subotan]

Oxford is a largeish city in its own right, as it used to be a centre for the car industry in the UK. But that's all gone now. I've never visited Bonn so I couldn't say how big it was in comparison...

The thing that strikes me most about Oxford is that there are a lot of weird people. I've seen several different guys with beards that would Gandalf a run for his money. And lots of people wear really weird trousers (Orange jeans??!?!?)

[a completely inoffensive name]

The thing that strikes me most about Oxford is that there are a lot of weird people. I've seen several different guys with beards that would Gandalf a run for his money. And lots of people wear really weird trousers (Orange jeans??!?!?)

When you come across the Gandalf while you are walking somewhere, whip out a stick and an umbrella and shout "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" and then start swinging.

[Joooray]

Oxford is a largeish city in its own right, as it used to be a centre for the car industry in the UK. But that's all gone now. I've never visited Bonn so I couldn't say how big it was in comparison...

The thing that strikes me most about Oxford is that there are a lot of weird people. I've seen several different guys with beards that would Gandalf a run for his money. And lots of people wear really weird trousers (Orange jeans??!?!?)

Bonn has some 300.000 inhabitants ... so according to wikipedia that's twice as many as in Oxford. Still wouldn't consider it to be a big city, but maybe that's just the feel of it.
In the crime series I mentioned, Oxford looked like a oversized typical British village, the architecture and all. But maybe that's just certain parts or I remember it wrong?