View Full Version : World of Tanks - Free to play Panzer MMO
al Roumi
07-15-2010, 11:52
I'm a lucky memeber of the closed EU beta, any other orgahs also playing?
For those who may be interested, more details are here (http://game.worldoftanks.com/) on the Game's home site.
Suffice it so say that this is plays a bit like a more tactical FPS, except everyone is in a tank :happy:. I am very happy to report that it is NOT a twitch fest, although that option is probably also available if you fancy it.
There are 5 classes of vehicle which you can use, unlock each through research, enabled by gaining experience from battles and killing stuff.
The classes are: Light tank, Medium tank, Heavy tank, Self Propelled Gun (indirect fire arty) and Anti Tank Gun (direct fire, also self propelled of course). Each class has a fairly distinct battelfield role and the reward (xp, credits) system is optimised to encourage class-like behaviour, e.g. Light tanks scouting, arty firing on targets the light tanks reveal, medium tanks attacking, heavies defending, ATs defending/supporting.
The tank tech tree is split between USSR and Germany, with a few other Allied tanks thrown into the mix too. You start at the early days of tank time (well, the tanks of the 1920s) and work your way up through to the vehicles of 1945.
To start with, you are kind of limited to some funny looking things that might have seen action in the Ukraine or Spanish Civil War, but which are rapidly out-gunned, out-maneuvered and out-armoured by newer vehicles.
The battle balance doesn't throw low level tanks and players in with Veterans though so its still fun pootling around in an armoured lawn mower with a turret mounted pop gun.
You also get to improve your tanks, adding modifications and improvements: better guns, bigger engines etc. Each of these add ons has a battle field effect too, from better recon/comms to lethality.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-15-2010, 18:58
I'm Eightball in the beta, playing German tank destroyers (currently on a JagdPanzer 4). This game is incredibly addicting, because it's an MMO that makes grinding fun.
I've played nearly non-stop the last week.
Looks pretty good. I signed-up, but knowing my luck I won't get accepted.
al Roumi
07-16-2010, 10:20
cool, I'm also "alh_p" in WoT, nearly ready to go from and AT-1 to an SU75 or a PzKwII to either a Wespe or PzKwIII... still not sure. Not played arty yet either so might buy myself a Bison and train up my skills in the recruit matches before deciding how to graduate to playing with the big boys (and their big tanks).
Quite enjoying the AT or Medium Tank role so far.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-16-2010, 14:10
Looks pretty good. I signed-up, but knowing my luck I won't get accepted.
There are a few games news sites with beta keys. I found one that gave me a key in return for giving them a junk email address.
Veho Nex
07-19-2010, 05:08
Still haven't gotten a beta key. :/
I try not to play MMOs.....but self propelled artillery won me over. Signed up.
I applied for the beta but since I'm a bot, I failed entering the correct letters from the picture two times...
Veho Nex
07-20-2010, 06:18
You can "purchase" a code here. Since it cost 0$ all you need to do is fill out the information with a correct email address. (http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/world_of_tanks) Then you goto your email, get the key and register it here (http://game.worldoftanks.com/registration/).
Veho Nex
07-20-2010, 06:26
Man, arty in this game is so over powered right off the bat. I could be moving in a zig zag and it will hit me dead on for an insta kill.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-20-2010, 13:55
Man, arty in this game is so over powered right off the bat. I could be moving in a zig zag and it will hit me dead on for an insta kill.
Arty is definitely overpowered with the lower tier tanks. Combine that with a game-matching system that often gives both sides 5 artillery and it seems really unfair. But your tanks will get better and if you play a while, there seems to be less artillery in the higher-tier fights. Use cover where available and if you're a light tank, make sure to spot for your overpowered arty :P
al Roumi
07-20-2010, 15:37
To add to ATPG's advice, try to stay in cover -behind buildings and other obstacles, this will shield you from Arty shots. Unfortunately, zig-zagging in the tier 1 tanks probably doesnt improve survivability much as they are so slow. Tanks get faster and harder with each tier, the MS-1 and Leichtractor are particularily fragile and ponderous. Get yourself a BT-25 and you will cause people no end of headaches trying to land a shot on your speedy tank.
I had a go at playing arty and it is very frustrating. Reloading is so slow, the vehicle so weak and the need for an escort/defense so acute that it can be painful.
Veho Nex
07-20-2010, 16:09
I rolled nazi for my first teiring run through. Just 5k points shy of my p3 light. I would already have it but I accidentally bought the luchs instead.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-20-2010, 22:17
To add to ATPG's advice, try to stay in cover -behind buildings and other obstacles, this will shield you from Arty shots. Unfortunately, zig-zagging in the tier 1 tanks probably doesnt improve survivability much as they are so slow. Tanks get faster and harder with each tier, the MS-1 and Leichtractor are particularily fragile and ponderous. Get yourself a BT-25 and you will cause people no end of headaches trying to land a shot on your speedy tank.
I had a go at playing arty and it is very frustrating. Reloading is so slow, the vehicle so weak and the need for an escort/defense so acute that it can be painful.
It's hard for light tanks to take cover; if they're really laying low they aren't doing their job :P But as a TD, I live and die by cover. :3
And arty's counter is pretty easy, once you their position is given away. I have a BT-7 I mess around in sometimes, and on one map I found an unguarded SU-8 (high level soviet arty) and just circled it for a good five minutes. It took about 30 shells to bring it down (low tier gun vs. high tier armor) but it couldn't turn fast enough to face me. I think if I was that arty guy I'd throw my monitor across the room.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-21-2010, 01:59
Looks pretty cool, Gonna have to try it out.
Edit: not bad, although I personally stink. I don't think I am cut out for a light Tank........
I got the code and I am going to give this a shot for the "lolz". Know nothing about the game, but from what I seen in thread, I hope there is a T-34 with my name on it.
al Roumi
07-21-2010, 10:54
I got the code and I am going to give this a shot for the "lolz". Know nothing about the game, but from what I seen in thread, I hope there is a T-34 with my name on it.
I hope so too, although i should warn you it'll take a little while to get it.
You'll have to cut your teeth on motorised biscuit tins first... ;)
Got the code just now!!
I'll download the client over-night and then start tomorrow morning.
Got my code as well and was playing until a few minutes ago, when the battle was laggy and the connection to the game servers was lost.
And I just earned my new PzKpfW 35(t) or what it's called...
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-27-2010, 00:54
Got my PZ III/IV yesterday. Feels nice to be able to at least damage the higher tiers. I figure a Panther will fit me pretty well, so I am moving towards that. Well see if I get it before the Beta ends and the wipe happens :tongue:
Took a whirl in a Bison as well to get a feel for Artillery. Its is a lot more difficult than I expected, and I feel a lot less like complaining about how overpowered it is :tongue: The Reloading truly is agonizing. And I realize that when I have been moving full speed I need to stop moving in straight lines. Straight lines are Artillery's friend :beam:.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-27-2010, 06:12
The PZ4 and all the VK(whatever numbers) before the Panther are ace, too. The PZ4 with all upgrades is unreasonably dangerous, mostly because it's got a Panther turret on it. :P
Currently I'm doing well with my JagdPanther, finally got the suspension upgrade and the first (slightly better) engine, so I can at least turn to shoot at light tanks.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-28-2010, 01:27
Forget Artillery, Track damage is by far more annoying! I swear, every time I am hit I end up immobilized and a sitting duck. Man is it frustrating. Always at the worst possible time too.
I finally got my BT-2, but it keeps dying, doh. But what is really weird, my MS-1 is now killing things.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-28-2010, 02:33
I finally got my BT-2, but it keeps dying, doh. But what is really weird, my MS-1 is now killing things.
Could it be your crew? Once you get a decent crew on a tank things get a lot easier with it, and you also probably have all the upgrades for the MS-1. Hence for now it might seem like the MS-1 is better :tongue:
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-28-2010, 16:22
Yeah, if your crew is 40% or higher on a tank and you get the next tier tank, you should transfer the crew over. Take the crew out of the new tank, put the old ones in, then retrain them on the new tank.
A good crew makes a huge difference.
And Drizzt, at least you have a turret to swing around if you're immobilized. As a TD driver all I can do is cry. :P
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-28-2010, 16:44
And Drizzt, at least you have a turret to swing around if you're immobilized. As a TD driver all I can do is cry. :P
Good point, I don't envy you.
al Roumi
07-28-2010, 17:48
I've kind of lost interest in this game over the last few days. Untill there is a fix for the non recruit battles to be tiered, and not feature 10 Tigers apiece while I am driving around in a Luchs...
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-28-2010, 18:20
I've kind of lost interest in this game over the last few days. Untill there is a fix for the non recruit battles to be tiered, and not feature 10 Tigers apiece while I am driving around in a Luchs...
I hear you. Farming credits in a Stug is tough when you're facing off with multiple IS's. I was fortunate to cut my teeth in the beta early on, so I was driving mostly comparable TDs.
There should be a big patch (hopefully with tiers) sometime in August, Wargaming.net is testing it now but they're being vague about what's in it and what isn't.
Cultured Drizzt fan
07-28-2010, 18:31
I've kind of lost interest in this game over the last few days. Untill there is a fix for the non recruit battles to be tiered, and not feature 10 Tigers apiece while I am driving around in a Luchs...
Once you hit Tier 5 it gets a lot better. Your are still up against tigers, but if you are smart you can get some damage on him, and a pack of tier 4-5's can cause some major headaches for a heavy. Its all about working together. (and hoping they aren't working together) The Luch's or Aus is garbage on wheels, You just need to find a way to get out of it ASAP.
They are saying that the next patch may have a way to form small groups of friends that would be on the same team, and I think that once that happens tactics are going to be a lot better and we will see a lot more working together. Which will be good.
Have to say, the Clan wars mode for the Full release looks awesome, I am really looking forward to that.
I can't see that there is a thread about this game.
Husar mentioned it in the "what are you playing" thread, and I had to go and have a looksie.
The game is just about to go public beta, but they will still hand out invitations for the closed beta as I got one yesterday.
I spent an hour or two playing last night, and my first impression was: Oh noes, it has a Travian system with gold, that can buy advantages.
Second impression: Oh, this is going to take time playing.
You start out with a choice of three crappy tin-cans (USSR: MS-1, Germany:Leichttraktor, US: T1 Cunningham).
Playing standard games will give you experience and silver to research upgrades and buy them.
I thought that I wouldn't spend any on the crappy tin-box and rather wait until I had the money to buy a better tin-box -> like the Pz II, but you just aren't able to earn enough being cannonfodder in a slow and crappy box with tinfoil wrapped around it. You need to upgrade your Leichttraktor (my choice) to make any form of real progress. I got all the upgrades including the 20mm rapid shooting cannon (default is a 37mm 47 shell slow cannon) and I suddenly got some points and silver.
Not sure about how this game will be. I suspect that it will be down-loadable for all, but it will have a monthly fee like MMORPG's.
When I finally had enough money to buy the PzII, I realized that you need a steady income to support your warfare. If you tin box is shot down (it will happen) you have to pay for the repairs. You will also pay for the ammunition and other hotfix objects that you can carry with you to the battlefield.
On the battlefield you start on one of two teams. The tin boxes are mixed (US, Germany and USSR on same side). The object of the game is to either shoot out all the tin-boxes on the opposite team or take their home base.
There is a tier system that ensures that you are not playing against PzV's while in a Leichttraktor. You opponents are of similar stock. Getting a better tin box will lift you to a higher tier and other games.
I guess in the lowest tier there is room for a few better tanks, since I saw a few PzII and Pz35 in addition to one or two medium tanks (US: T2). Getting the PzII I was put into a game with tank destroyers and moving artillery which killed me instantly. Second game in the PzII was back in familiar maps with the crappy tin boxes.
This is a first impression and I might have misjudged many aspects of it, but I just love tank games. My favourite was Battlefield 1942 and the all tank desert map.
Merged. ~;)
Glad you like it Sigurd and they do indeed have a system where you can buy gold for some advantages, the base game is free to play however.
Merged. ~;)
Glad you like it Sigurd and they do indeed have a system where you can buy gold for some advantages, the base game is free to play however.
Right.. but you need gold for some stuff right? Like freeing up experience points on tin-boxes that has reached elite status.
My question is, how do you get gold in the released version? Will it trickle in like it does in the beta (150 a day)?
edit: it says in the FAQ that you buy gold for real money.
And you need to have a premium account to start clans or teams.
It says in the FAQ that the Clan system will be opened with the open beta. Anyone planning to check this out?
Right.. but you need gold for some stuff right? Like freeing up experience points on tin-boxes that has reached elite status.
My question is, how do you get gold in the released version? Will it trickle in like it does in the beta (150 a day)?
No, of course you will pay for gold with real money.
To free experience you will indeed need gold but it's not necessary to get all the standard tanks.
If the game will be fun and have enough content I'm willing to spend some money on it, support the developers, but also depends on my finances.
I don't plan on buying gold for the better premium ammo though.
To free experience you will indeed need gold but it's not necessary to get all the standard tanks.
But you will have to follow a line in the tech-tree, right? To end up with the tank you want.
Like me - I want a PzVI (Tiger) and the tech-three line goes through PzII -> PzIII Ausf.A -> PzIII -> PzIV -> VK3601(H) -> PzVI.
Had I chosen the Pz35 after the tin tractor, I would have ended up with tank destroyers.
Ok... I noticed the full release tech-tree (http://downloads.worldoftanks.ru/wotru/a3jf8f/uploads/tech_trees/full_german_tree.jpg) which gives you more than one road to glory.
Samurai Waki
01-29-2011, 00:58
This is a really fun little game. I've only just managed to get out of the MS-1, and so far the T-26 is pretty awful, however being that the KV series are my favorite ww2 tanks I'm holding out till then.
This is a really fun little game. I've only just managed to get out of the MS-1, and so far the T-26 is pretty awful, however being that the KV series are my favorite ww2 tanks I'm holding out till then.
Save your gold and get the T-14. Being tired having no progress in the PzIII Aus, I decided to fork out the 1500 gold and get a heavy tank.
I also had some to spare and trained the driver.
The world of Heavies are amazing, and you are still able to party with the same group as the PzIII Aus, but this time you are in the top spots (assuming the list of players are listed in a best to worst order).
The tank is slow compared to the "lights" but it can take a real beating. I was in a "melee" with a VK3xxx(H) and won hands down. But having a T14 will also put you into a fight with IS3/TigerII/JagdPanther/Ferdinand type tanks, where you are in the middle of the list. You will only be scraping paint off them, but you still get lots of experience and credits. I got around 17000 credits in on of those battles, and I only took out one medium total.
Anyone still playing this game?
Anyone still playing this game?
I've had an exam today and got another one on Thursday, so I better not play this game. :laugh4:
I've had an exam today and got another one on Thursday, so I better not play this game. :laugh4:
Hope you excelled and that you likewise do on Thursday.
Excuse me while I get into my upgraded PzIV long barrel and reap the last XP to get a VK3601(H). I am nearly reaching the point where my tin cans are becoming better than my 1500 gold T14. The T14 is good to have for getting additional credits while waiting for your PzIV to become available after being rolled over by a IS or a TigerII or my archenemy the SU-152. Their hides are just too thick for my longrange 75mm and they take me out with one shot.
Chimpyang
02-20-2011, 06:32
I love the long 7.5cm barrel....allows me to consistently penetrate T1's....I run into a corner when an IS or Tiger comes a rolling.....
I still have my PzIIIA - I love the blooming thing, I used gold to make the Driver 100% and all the other crew are at 90+% too, so I can literally drive circles whilst a Panzer III or IV struggles to turn its turret on me, whilst I shoot off round after round of low damage shells into weak spots. People underestimate the power of the light but fragile tank. Managed 7 kills in Himmelsdorf the other day, despite being only in the lower middle of the list. Just drove around swerving like a madman around all the AT guns and arty, surprised a lot of them with how quickly i can run away when the heavies took and interest too!
I plan on also keeping my IV, a good complementary tank to play with my friend's full upgraded KV-1.
My only problem with the game is that it is very frustrating in tiers 2-5, the arty you end up facing is waaaaay too powerful and far too easy to use. But once you get to the heavy tanks, which might merit a bloody huge shell landing on it, arty disappears again...
Yep, the KwK 42 L/70 is good on the PzIV. That setup is my moneymaking rig. Well that one and my T14. The credit ratio is almost always 10 000 plus, since the expenses on ammo and reparations are quite cheap.
My top rig right now is a VK3601 (H) with the KwK 36 L/56 (88mm) which is ok... The ammo does cost alot though and on average I seldom earn much with it. maybe 500 - 1500 in the plus.
A much better gun for this rig is the 7.5 cm KwK 41 L/58 konisch - but the temptation of using "gold ammo" is too great. with 225mm penetration and 165 damage it can take out most rigs.
I only play it to get to the PzVI Tiger I... Which will be a while since I need 1,256,700 credits to buy it, in addition to around 45 000 xp to research it.
I got my PzVI last night... What a difference!!! I played one game with it before racking out. Even as vanilla I had no trouble playing cat 'n mouse with a Ferdinand (must have been vanilla too). Just need a few more credits to get the first canon upgrade. Can't run around in a Tiger with a 75mm. That's just not right... :beam:
I had to cheat to get it. Too much gold on hand led me to try out the premium account - and the xp and credits started flowing in resulting in the necessary amounts being reached quickly.
I had to cheat to get it. Too much gold on hand led me to try out the premium account - and the xp and credits started flowing in resulting in the necessary amounts being reached quickly.
That's not cheating, I've had a premium account for months once the beta-gold started flowing en masse. It's more or less necessary to just earn the upkeep for some of the higher end tanks.
Samurai Waki
02-25-2011, 01:00
I've been playing around with my KV lately, finally got the tier 6 Cannon... does major damage (can take out a T-14 with one well place shot or take a Tiger II down to 50% in one shot) Problem with that is it's slow as mud to reload, and I absolutely hate when a shot doesn't penetrate and you have to wait 30 seconds to reload. Aaargh! Still loads of fun to play with, and against lower tiered tanks I've pretty much dominated every battle. Hard to compete with the guy that can take you out in one hit, although it makes you appreciate the aspect of heavies in that you need to rely on your armor much more so than any other class.
Alexander the Pretty Good
02-25-2011, 03:55
Maxi, are you referring to the 152mm HE gun or the 107mm AP? The former is nasty in urban combat - I got two shot in my Jagdpanther once because the first shot knocked out my gun and tracks, then the second delivered the coup de grace.
Samurai Waki
02-25-2011, 03:59
The 152mm HE... it's a great gun, but not if you're impatient.
And very, very bad if you find yourself alone in a wide open area.
I can't put this game down...
Spent a few hours this weekend in my PzIV and got enough XP to get the Hummel (SPG). I must say. New respect for the Arties. I spent a little gold training my commander, gunner and one loader and silver trained the rest. Playing artillery is a whole new game - and a fun one at that.
5 kills yesterday on Pagorki and Desert. Man it is satisfactory to take out a tank in hiding with one shot of my 150 mm/950 damage gun. Finally: People need to protect their arties. One medium slipping through the lines is enough.
Reminds me of a game in my PzIV when I circumvented the city in Ensk and took out all 4 enemy arties in one run (one shot each). I bet that was sour for those guys. :sneaky:
Samurai Waki
03-07-2011, 16:38
The new patch made some improvements, but it's still far from balanced. Either way, I've had some fun tearing it up in my KV-3, but because this is a slow tank it's ideally suited for defense. Once I get into the IS's, I'm thinking play style is going to make a major change.
Got a IS yet? I am quite happy with my King Tiger - even if it is a credit eater.
I lose a game but due to my "skillz" and premium account I get around 20 000 credits, looks at the repair cost : 11 000, and think - not so bad after all. That is until I actually do the repairs and discover the prize is actually 27 000 credits.
WHAT!!?? - a natural reaction as in RL if you were presented with such atrocities at the car repair shop. I am wondering if I am going to continue playing after the release. It is fun and all that in the beginning, but with the BIG GUNS and their costly repairs and ammo - you will spend money on the game, even though it is supposed to be free.
A brilliant game, but the financial concept is mafia like. They are counting on people getting addicted and will not be able to let go of their "prices".
Well, the ammunition for the bigger King Tiger guns is quite expensive, I think that's what's eating up all your credits.
The game is also scheduled to go live on April 12th IIRC.
just trying to strike a conversation...
Oh and... at what time do you stop getting the next tank? Depending on how much you guys play when do you say - This is it. This is the tank I am going to hone. Spending credits on modules etc...
I have with every new tank - got a new crew and gold trained them. Never tried to re-school a crew from a previous tank.
I have followed one tech-line with just one expansion into another from a higher level (Hummel) and have as soon as I have been able moved to the next available tank (this being a beta after all).
I really like my artillery vehicle. It is just sweet on big open maps. Getting 6 kills and the topgun hero mark in an artillery pice just puts a smile on your face. :beam:
I had a fun game yesterday right after work, before I went home. What bugs me is that, I cant remember if I played with a premium account. I know I had to "buy" one yesterday.
I was the über tank in that game and after I got rid of the T32, it was a cake walk. My experience points from that game is ... kinda low. I have had games where I didn't kill a single tank and still had experience points doubling that of this game.
So.. conclusion would be that you get more points damaging higher tier tanks than lower tiers?
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_002.jpg
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-24-2011, 01:22
Yup, that's correct. You also get more XP for doing damage at close range than at long range.
Samurai Waki
03-24-2011, 05:44
Yes, I've gotten the IS-3 so far. Although I still play around in the KV (Even Pzkfw III Aus.) low tier matches are good fun!
Sarmatian
03-24-2011, 21:50
Can someone explain what the game is about? Strategy, action game? A comparison with another game maybe... Is it really free to play or you find out you're at a huge disadvantage if you don't buy in-game stuff with real world money?
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-25-2011, 04:00
Can someone explain what the game is about? Strategy, action game? A comparison with another game maybe... Is it really free to play or you find out you're at a huge disadvantage if you don't buy in-game stuff with real world money?
Skill-based action game (but with a good dose of tactical possibilities on top of just hot tank-on-tank action). In-battle the pay for stuff gives you only a marginal advantage, certainly not worth it. However, buying a "premium" account (I forget what the price will be) slows down the grind to go up the tank ladder.
There will also be some sort of strategic clan-based metagame in the future, but I don't think we know all that much about it.
Did you guys see the prices they have put out for pre-ordering the game?
€75 for 25000 gold and a premium Heavy Tank (M6A2E1)
€56 for 18700 gold and a premium Medium Tank (PzV/IV)
€32 for 12500 gold and a premium Light Tank (A32)
I mean come on... I have spent a bit of gold in the beta and it would be in the range of somewhere between the medium and light accounts.
That is pretty steep for a online game...
I have, and I don't intend to buy any of these packages.
Although they do get you quite a few months of premium.
Problem is just that it may not have enough game modes yet to get you hooked for so many months, could leave some of the gold for later of course but it still seems like a risky investment at this point. :shrug:
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-29-2011, 00:20
Laughable. I wonder how the prices stack up versus those for the Russian players?
Sarmatian
03-29-2011, 10:26
Isn't the team from Belarus?
Anyway, I hate these set-ups, it's free but it really isn't...
This is just a great game... even without the gold. The new update on the EU server is out.
Somehow the graphics are better.
There are new sounds, maps, redesign of maps, minimap and the ability to move destroyed tanks.
I am grinding my way up again. Currently in a PzIII with the long 50mm
Veho Nex
05-19-2011, 16:47
I stopped playing after we stopped getting a little bit of gold per day. I had my Easy 8 as my main and was grinding my way to a Tiger 1
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-19-2011, 17:02
Is this game any good? :balloon2:
Is this game any good? :balloon2:
We're on page 3 of this thread, one would think that reading all the posts would give you a decent overview over what the game is like, no? ~;)
And Sigurd, that's right, I think they replaced especially some of the landscape textures with much better ones.
Only got to play on one of the two new maps so far but think it looks great:
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577797618538117637/FD5A7740AAB242B1E58E609BDEE7C9025A74817C/
my screenies:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_004.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_007.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_010.jpg
Samurai Waki
05-20-2011, 00:15
How is the full version compared to the Beta so far? The gold scheme they set up was a nonstarter for me, would've preferred just a monthly fee instead. Has the game improved enough since beta to justify paying for gold? or would you suggest to wait a bit longer until they iron some of the imbalances out?
The game is still on pre- 1.0 version. But I must say this 0.6.4 is just sweet. The game is fully playable without gold. I don't know what their plans are regarding taking it up to 1.0
The game is fully playable without gold.
Well, it's quite likely that you will actually lose money if you use a Tier 8 or higher heavy tank without a premium account.
And they want 30€ for the Tier 8 premium tanks, that I consider a bit of a letdown, I'm never going to pay more than 5-10€ for a virtual tank, actually 10 is only not a lot because it would probably help a great deal with earning money. If you need free experience it's even worse because converting experience costs extra again. :dizzy2:
So I'm not very happy with their price model but the game itself is quite fun, and free.
Samurai Waki
05-20-2011, 00:58
Something had to be done about the way their tiers were set up anyways. I found the game less and less enjoyable beyond 5th Tier. KV-1s/2s are simply no match for an IS-3 or Ferdinand.
I never used a premier account until well into my Tiger I. I spent gold on 100% crews during the beta. Playing today, I can certainly see that people are not spending gold on training crews. The marksmanship of current players are poor, mine included. You should think every shot hits if you wait long enough.
I had a laugh yesterday evading 4 arties trying to take me out. I was the top ranked tank on the desert map. My team camped at home base and I danced the tank jig among their front line ATs. Using auto aim I took out three of them before they tracked me. Sitting like a crippled bug facing 6 tanks is suicide no matter how fast your crew works at getting the tank mobile again. Esp. in a 350 hp PzIII. :beam:
I almost grinded my way to a T-34 in the beta. It was boring and tedious but the promise of finally a good tank kept me going.
It's a boring grind to get out of light tanks. Sadly, I can't do it again, especially with no gold.
I almost grinded my way to a T-34 in the beta. It was boring and tedious but the promise of finally a good tank kept me going.
It's a boring grind to get out of light tanks. Sadly, I can't do it again, especially with no gold.
Not deliberately trying to promote the game, but why? the T-34 is what? tier 5? I have enough credits to buy the PzIV (tier 5) with 75% crew and have earned enough experience to research it without using one ounce of gold.
Some of my latter games got me plenty of experience (around 1000 a game) and if you are lucky you do very well in your first game of the day and get double experience in a what would be high yield game.
The tier 4 PzIII is actually pretty fun tank to play, esp. if you play it like a light tank, sneaking around the flanks and taking out your enemy SPGs. It can save your teams game as the enemy seem to panic when they suddenly realize I am there. They will send a lot of resources trying to take me out which just gives me more experience when I "detect" them. If my team is paying attention they get great intel and can move accordingly and we win.
I will get into the PzIV soon and grind it up to the long 75mm sniper gun, which is also a fun way of playing. The vanilla tanks are what is really boring to play. A fully upgraded tank is rather fun.
The game on the EU servers got upgraded to 0.6.5.
Two new maps and re-do of a few other maps. The US got their TD line.
I might have discontinued my German Heavy Tank line as I did that line already in the Demo (well up to a top performance Tiger II).
I went with the SPG Hummel instead of moving to VK36.
I want an IS so I am building up the Russian Heavy Tank line. Currently I am playing with the KV - 107mm and will be moving to KV3 when I have enough experience.
Pulling PzIV to Hummel took 35 400 experience which naturally generated a lot of silver and I will need them when I grind the Heavies up to decent performance.
The Hummel is cashing in. High yield Silver and little expenses even if you lose.
The creators of War of Tanks have a new game in development: World of Warplanes (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/01/world-of-warplanes-first-details-will-have-same-gold-experience-economics-as-world-of-tanks/).
I will be watching when they release the beta. It is currently being alpha tested.
Alexander the Pretty Good
07-07-2011, 00:34
Can't wait for the free gold in beta!
I have a question for the guys that have played the Soviet heavy line before.
I am about to get one of the two top guns in the KV-3, the 100mm D10T or the 122mm D-2-5T. Which one is the better? No, that is not what I am asking.
Which one should I get?
For a heavy tank, I'd usually go with the more powerful gun, in this case the 122mm, that way you can peek out of cover, take a hit and hit for loads of damage.
Now the enemy may have a fast reloading gun but it won't be of much use, he can only hit you once as you disappear behind cover again, with a fast firing gun you will have to stay outside of cover to shoot more often, or come out more often, and hit him more often, and he will be able to hit you more often as well. In close combat and when you just need that last hit on him but your gun takes ages to reload, it's a disadvantage, but in long and medium range fights I think the bigger gun is usually advantageous.
It's also fun to hit an enemy and see that you took a huge bunch of hitpoints away, or kill a Tier 4 tank in one hit etc. ~D
Yes,
I did pick the 122mm all though it is a tad slow. But I feel it doesn't hit as well on long distances as the 107mm i did.
Checking near future upgrades, it seems the IS needs to research a new Turret and possibly suspension before the 122mm can be mounted on it. It will take around 17625 experience points to mount the gun on it.
That means - a lot of grinding with the 85mm pea shooter before the IS will be usable. *sigh*
I guess this has become my personal WoT blog. :beam:
The IS only needs the new turret to mount the 122mm and I used the KV-3 to research the 100mm D10T gun before buying the IS.
The 100mm was fast as large guns goes, but not much umph in it to battle the top tiered tanks.
Have any of you noticed that games where you are the top dog are as difficult as those where you are the bottom dog?
At least this is true for the IS. It seems wherever you go being #1, you suddenly get hit from all compass directions by sneaky bastards.
The best games are the ones you play second fiddle to a Tiger II or a IS-3.
I just had one today which earned me 2300 xp and 29k credits. None of us got the Top Gun but we were close all of us three top dogs with 4 -5 kills each and we finally capped the base as the last enemy was in our base.
Statement: you only need 3 tanks in the enemy base to reach full capture speed. True or false?
Discussion: Which is better; capture the enemy base or kill all enemy tanks?
Not deliberately trying to promote the game, but why? the T-34 is what? tier 5? I have enough credits to buy the PzIV (tier 5) with 75% crew and have earned enough experience to research it without using one ounce of gold.
Some of my latter games got me plenty of experience (around 1000 a game) and if you are lucky you do very well in your first game of the day and get double experience in a what would be high yield game.
The tier 4 PzIII is actually pretty fun tank to play, esp. if you play it like a light tank, sneaking around the flanks and taking out your enemy SPGs. It can save your teams game as the enemy seem to panic when they suddenly realize I am there. They will send a lot of resources trying to take me out which just gives me more experience when I "detect" them. If my team is paying attention they get great intel and can move accordingly and we win.
I will get into the PzIV soon and grind it up to the long 75mm sniper gun, which is also a fun way of playing. The vanilla tanks are what is really boring to play. A fully upgraded tank is rather fun.
"but why?"
I'm not sure what you were asking me.
If its "why did you want the T-34," the long and short of it is that its a cool tank and I like it.
"but why?"
I'm not sure what you were asking me.
If its "why did you want the T-34," the long and short of it is that its a cool tank and I like it.
You said: 'Sadly I can't do it again, especially with no gold'.
I asked why, because there is not much grinding up to a level 5 tank. Getting past that and we can talk again. I got the Hummel by grinding it from a PzIV.
I decided that I found it tedious to grind my way back to a Tiger, so decided I should start another line. A Heavy Soviet line. (I always had problems with the same tiered IS, playing as Tiger I)
I have now a IS with the sweet 122mm and I haven't spent an ounce of Gold yet in this game.
The IS is however problematic due to its rather expensive ammo. I break even or just over in not so good wins. And almost always lose money in games where we are defeated. On a rare occasion when I do brilliantly I can rake in up to 30k, but will fork out about 10k on ammo. That is why I keep the Hummel. I need it to get me into plus money wise.
I think the IS is the very top tank you can have in the Heavy line before needing a premium account.
I want to continue to a IS-3, but then I might have to spend some money on this game. I dread the idea of running around in a stock tank - now that is boring.
Advice for the day, try to research as much as possible if your tank has components that the next tank also uses.
The 100mm that I unlocked with the KV-3 was invaluable for the IS as that had only a 85mm as stock.
I can't do it again because light tanks are extremely boring, and increasingly frustrating as you get the higher and higher ones.
I don't require the standard lecture about how I should be scouting instead of trying to get kills, I should move from cover to cover, etc. I'm aware. It's just not fun.
On a related note, I like planes more than tanks, so World of Planes could be great. If they include the Me-262 and stuff like that I wonder how they'd balance it with the prop planes.
Samurai Waki
07-20-2011, 08:55
I'm with Graphic on this one-- After losing my IS-3, I just couldn't bring myself to restart; I played around for a bit, but I'm too impatient to do it all over again.
I wonder how many this is true for.
I know I was upset for losing my King Tiger, and the price for playing the Beta was a semi crappy M4something.
But playing small tanks is not too boring, and you advance pretty fast.
In the games with the PzIII was at the bottom of the list, I positioned myself in a such a way that I could run with full speed into enemy territory.
I didn't go at once but waited maybe 2 min. Then pointed at the mini-map saying I am going here. Pay attention. Objective - revealing as much as possible and staying alive as long as possible. And if I was lucky I would run into an arty or two along the way.
ICantSpellDawg
07-28-2011, 02:52
I now have the Panzer 3001 H. I really like this game.
Sometimes no matter what you do - your team fails you. You bleed for them, fight higher class tanks and wins for them. And when you roll you shot up tank to take their base, a lurker 3 class above you monster is camping there.
I just hate those games...
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_012.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_013.jpg
I told you that my Hummel is the cash bringer...
An example of a regular match:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_015.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_016.jpg
:sneaky:
Oh... and the 0.6.6 is in testing and we get 10 000 gold in the test server.
The new version has a new map...
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_018.jpg
I was just starting to get back into this. I was having fun for a while, and then I hit that same wall I hit in the beta that sucked all the fun right out of the game. Tier 4 light tanks which get put in matches with King Tigers and IS-4s. There shouldn't be light tanks in those type of match-ups at all. The tier 4 lights should be towards the top with tier 2s at the bottom. They should replace the random KVs and Shermans I saw with the 35t (T2) and 38t (T3). The devs need to fix this...but I suspect they won't. Its actually a genius idea to get players to upgrade to a premium account and use gold to convert experience so they can get out of T4 lights ASAP.
I can't remember the last time I got a kill. This is a tank game, I want to blow up tanks, not play hide and go seek. Flying around, spotting people and then getting one-shotted or hiding behind a rock is not my idea of fun. Panzer 38 nA is a :daisy: deluxe, absolutely no fun to use at all. And I gotta do this :daisy: for FOURTEEN THOUSAND XP to research and buy a Panzer III/IV.
Same exact experience in the beta except with the A-20. I don't think I can do this.
Why did you go with a 38 nA then? Couldn't you just go the heavy route and then switch over to mediums if that's where you're heading?
Also, you can either try hiding behind your own heavy tanks, just from being close to a battle you can sometimes get huge amounts of XP in a small tank.
Or you can try rushing and scouting, but I made some bad experiences that way since the heavy tankers usually got me very early and they just need a single hit...
Then again I had a T-28, very vulnerable but gets a good gun. The American medium-line Tier 4 and 5 tanks were a bit of a bore though.
You will also usually end up in really hard battles now and then until you reach tier 9 or 10, but I just accept that as in other battles I'll often end up as the top tank myself.
Time to show and tell...
Remember I said I was playing the test server?
I got my King Tiger II back and it is as sweet as I remember:
Fully specked (except the engines (750hp/870hp) 105mm long (KwK 46 L/68) gun.:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_021.jpg
It was the most fun tank to play in the beta... and it still is fun as long as it is elite.
Wait.. that is not all, I have more...
163 000 xp later I got this (88mm KwK 43 L/71 as stock gun):https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_028.jpg
With the 105mm KwK 46 L/68 from the KT2 (and its crew)https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_030.jpg
About 50 000xp (suspension + new turret) later...https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_031.jpgOld turret
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_032.jpgNew Turret
Next...
The 128mm KwK 43 L/55 (63 000xp)
The 1200 HP Mayback engine (50 000xp)
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_033.jpg
E-100 (183 000xp)... test over. not able to reach this goal
Why did you go with a 38 nA then? Couldn't you just go the heavy route and then switch over to mediums if that's where you're heading?
I'm gunning for the Panther. And until I actually got the 38 nA, I had no way of knowing that it'd be the exact same experience with the A-20 in beta.
As for the rest...I explained in my last two posts that my problem is the gameplay with T4 lights is extremely boring, so saying I should hide behind heavy tanks and passively soak up XP isn't exactly ace advice. That sounds more boring than scouting.
As I said two posts ago: "it's just not fun." No amount of advice or rationalizing the design will change that. The whole idea that there should be specialized light scout tanks in the game is a sham when there are plenty of medium tanks who fulfill the role even better than the "scout" tanks do because they can actually defend themselves. This coupled with the fact that the maps are far too small and have too many narrow chokepoints to have effective scouting, and the whole idea becomes a joke. Its a flaw in the game that needs to be rectified. If the maps were actually designed like places where tanks would actually fight (and not like first person shooter maps), scouting with light tanks would actually serve a purpose in the game.
That said, I researched and bought a Hetzer and its 1,000x more fun than the POG deluxe 38 nA, especially with that ridiculous StuH cannon. I only wish it didn't move like a turtle, but since it looks like one I guess its fitting.
Haha, I see what you mean but you should go for russian mediums then as they're the only mediums that have some armour to speak of. :laugh4:
I'm not sure about german mediums after the next patch but currently their armour is rather low for the tiers they're in - with the exception of the VK3002DB - the Panther fields 80mm front armour against guns that penetrate 175mm and more, guess what happens if you just go in and don't hide behind heavies or buildings.
American mediums don't have any armour, I mean the few times my M4A3E8 actually bounces anything I just laugh at the enemy, but just yesterday my front got continually penetrated by, yes, a Panzer 38nA, while I was busy trying to get his bigger friends. :shrug:
Graphic...
With the new tank lines in the 0.6.6 you are headed towards the Maus with the Pz38 NA.
If you want to go with the German Mediums in the new patch, which will be launched very soon (they already released it for the Russian players) you should play:
Pz II -> Pz III Ausf. A -> Pz III -> Pz III/IV -> VK 3001 (H) -> Pz V Panther -> Panther II -> E-50
linky to tech tree. (http://statcdn.worldoftanks.ru/comru_v15_ru1/uploads/tech_trees/new/germany_tree_full(ru).jpg)
new 0.6.6 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcI7JsWGYl0&feature
That's actually the route I took to the Panther in the beta, just today I noticed they changed it and now they're changing it back, heh.
What happens when I get a reasonable match with the 38 nA:
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594692996085008270/B26284130EC8DA23FBBA5C4B845A5CEDE3755AB3/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594692996085008812/AA26BCB47832C8EB1BD2DA9B5121EB371EF577FB/
But thats an exception to the rule, and thankfully I should be rid of this thing later today with a bit of luck and some good old fashioned grinding.
No worries about the tech tree change; the next tank in line is the Panzer III/IV, so I'm still on track.
Well, there you go... top gun and everything. :thumbsup:
You better hurry, they will update the servers tomorrow to 0.6.6 and then your next tank will be PzIV instead of the PzIII/IV
I got it later that day so I'm good. Kept the 38 nA in case I want to grind the PzIV but I'm not sure yet.
Hated the III/IV at first but once I adjusted my play style, I like it a lot.
Also, this: http://worldofwarplanes.com/
Will be epic. American tech tree 100%. P-51 Mustang, F-86 Sabre, F6F Hellcat. Good stuff.
It says it goes all the way to Korean War era, in which case it'd be better if they just totally axe the nation-specific tech trees all together. Everyone but Americans and Russians would run out after WW2. I'd also love to try the Zero and Me-262 without grinding for days.
I hope the Warplanes game will have a loooong beta test.
Yeah, it'd give me ample time to convince them that 1930s biplanes shouldn't be cast as "scouts" in games with F-86s, which they're sure to do.
It would be so much fun if they kept all the biplanes together in matchmaking, I'd actually keep a really low level plane then.
1 year anniversary today...
It seems we get a premium account for a day free of charge
I am off to play....
And it says that we will also get a premium account for a week if we registered before this day runs out. Well.... I got my free one day account already. Let's see what happens next.
I got a free week because I registered before August 28th 2010 or so.
There are also all kinds of discounts, garage slots 50% off and 5x xp for the first victory a day etc.
Yeah... I saw too late that it was 2010.
I have only played this game since April... so I didn't get a week's worth of premium. And.... I spent exactly 2 hours playing with the premium and it is now gone.
I only got the free 24 hours, and because of that I've played more WoT in the past 24 hours than I'd care to admit. I got so much done:
Got 14k xp on the 38 nA again for the PzIV and promptly sold it.
Researched and bought Stug
Researched and bought VK 3001 (H) and just got the 88mm
Zipped through the BT-2 and BT-7 and bought an A-20 (I still want that T-34/85 I was striving for in beta). I probably could have grinded through the A-20 fairly quickly but I had to sleep :(
The T-34/85 is a foe to be reckoned with even when I play the IS. The next tank T-43 can be a formidable foe too. I lost to one the other day. I gave my best and I am sure he took 3 hits in the front with my top gun (fast 122mm). I saw him when I died and he had a mauled front between his turret and body.
In my opinion - that line of mediums are the best in the game. T-43, T44 and the epic T54.
In other news: there will be a World of Battleships (http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/general_news/wargamingnet-declares-naval-warfare). For a former naval man, this might be the most exiting news I have heard in a long time... :thumbsup:
Got the T-34. The 57mm machine gun is hilarious. Grinding through this to the T-34-85 won't be a grind at all.
The engine does feel weak to me but I'm sure a 100% driver will make it better.
I'm on a mission to collect all the iconic mediums, so after the T-34-85 and Panther, its time to get the Shermans.
Also if I can get confirmation that I'll at least break even as a standard player, I want the Porsche Tiger and the Pershing.
Anyone done any skin jobs on their tanks?
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_002-1.jpg
Err, no, found it useless because I'd be the only one who can see it anyway.
Plus, with 0.7 they want to introduce camo patterns anyway, temporary ones for silver and permanent ones for gold.
Anyone done any skin jobs on their tanks?
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_002-1.jpg
Funny you should mention that. I decided to give my T-34-85 the insignia a North Vietnamese one. I took a deep breath and decided to make a post for it.
Thankfully, people seem to like it: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/55109-north-vietnamese-t-34-85/
Before that I put a grid of swastikas on the hull of this (http://wotskins.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/t-34-85-russian-green/) skin, as like a scoreboard of how many Nazis my crew had slain. (It was 15)
Everything else I just get other people's skins from these two sites
http://mirtankov.net/
http://wotskins.wordpress.com/
I prefer realistic looking ones. Those anime skins make me want to gouge out my own eyes and flush them down the toilet.
Nice...
Taking a look at those sites, I lol'ed when seeing the Hello Kitty Löwe skin. I might just get it for the lulz. I don't have a Löwe, but it will fit those 12 500 gold, I am a rich n00b, monsters. I might just paint a swastika for every Löwe I have put on fire on the side of my IS.
We'll just ignore Husar's pessimistic views. The truth is that he doesn't know how to modify his tank skin... :sneaky:
Veho Nex
08-22-2011, 15:44
Last night I finally got my P38nA, been trying to get as far as i can with their 1 year anniversary 7 day premium. Hoping to atleast get through p4 and start on my VK3601(H) before Friday.
Sigurd how do you do your custom skins? Do you use a specific program or can you pop open a skin file in photoshop and work the canvas?
Sigurd how do you do your custom skins? Do you use a specific program or can you pop open a skin file in photoshop and work the canvas?
I use Gimp. But it needs the DDS plugin to work. The Tank markings and the "camo" are two different files if you want to play around.
I added Polish and Syrian historical skins to that post as well. I'm especially proud of the Syrian one.
I think I found a new hobby.
The link if anyone missed it :D
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/55109-my-historical-t-34-85-skins/
Also for fun I made TF2 voice packs. Only three so far. Heavy, Medic and Soldier, intended for use with their respective countries
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/55251-team-fortress-2-voice-packs/
Alexander the Pretty Good
08-23-2011, 06:15
It's spooky how well it fits. Also nice killing spree in the video.
Also for fun I made TF2 voice packs. Only three so far. Heavy, Medic and Soldier, intended for use with their respective countries
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/55251-team-fortress-2-voice-packs/
This one you could sell... Hilarious. :beam:
My custom IS skin:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_007-1.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_008.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_009.jpg
I'm getting to the point where the money grind is much worse than the XP grind.
I'm on the verge of unlocking the Tiger (10k xp...a day and a half of solid play) but about a million credits away.
I'm getting to the point where the money grind is much worse than the XP grind.
I'm on the verge of unlocking the Tiger (10k xp...a day and a half of solid play) but about a million credits away.
Heh... same here.
I am getting close to unlocking the IS3 but I don't have the credits to buy it nor an available slot to put it in.
The IS is barely making money and I could say that it breaks even.
The ammo cost is what breaks my back. In really fun games with high tiered tanks you need to spend a few shells 'shooting them up' and the bill filling up your ammo storage will be in the 20k range. Then you need repairs...
I am also close to unlocking the SPG Panther which is more tempting, but I still need over a million to buy that baby.
Besides, as Husar has mentioned before (from Overlord's blog):
• KV will be separated into KV-1 and KV-2.
Players who have a KV in their garage at the time of the revision will have it replaced with a KV-1. The KV’s crew will be trained for the KV-1.
Additionally players who have researched KV-2’s turret for KV will get a KV-2 with an extra garage slot and the KV-2 will be assigned a 100% crew.
Undistributed experience from KV can be transferred to either KV-2 or to KV-1 on demand.
No additional refunds are planned.
• KV-3 moved to tier 7 and the introduction of T-150.
Players who have a KV-3 in their garage at the time of the revision will get a KV-3 in its new status with its existing module and research setup and its old crew. Additionally they will also get a T-150 with a stock setup, extra garage slot, and 100% crew.
No additional refunds are planned.
I am loath to get rid of my KV and KV-3 as they will be giving me two free slots if I keep them. I have the Pz IV which I might get rid off after I have researched the next non-SPG tank in either the medium line or the Heavy line. And my Hummel is just too fun to get rid off. I don't know what the SPG Panther ammo bill will be and I need at least one tank which is sure to make 10k plus in every game. That leaves me with no available slots for either the IS3 or the SPG Panther... until the KV and KV-3 updates kicks in.
Rant time....
Yeah, I do have a few complaints, but foremost is against the Löwe players.
You might say that it stems from envy of rich boys buying their way into high tiered games. Short answer: no. It is their arrogance and completely lack of understanding the game that bothers me.
AND... Yeah, the game balancer should not match Löwes against IS3. All though the tank might be as good, the players are not.
One recent game just proves this:
I got into a game where two Löwe were the top tanks ... and they were matched against two IS3 on the opponent team. We had two IS (one was myself) and generally low tiered tanks in the other matchups.
It was the El Halluf map facing south (linky to WoT maps (http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Maps)) and normally the heavies take the west route (to our right). Only I and the other IS did so. And yes we encountered a couple of mediums and our Tiger counterparts. But (no kidding) somehow the Löwes went down into the valley playing scouts and "hid" in the city which duly got them hammered to tuna cans. On which the enemy apparently rushed afterwards across the valley and knocked out the rest. They knew our IS was engaged in the west. 5 minutes into the game and it was only myself and my IS companion left on our team. We had about 2-3 kills each. But the rest of our team had 0... which meant - surrounded by all sorts of small calibre and the two IS3. I took out one of the IS3 in a dance of the heavies (getting the other tank to bounce their shots on your hull). But I got shot too many times by unseen enemy and finally succumbed to tungsten poisoning.
Sometimes I feel like shooting up our Löwe just to save the enemy the trouble. Yes there are capable Löwe players out there, but they are in minority.
The only positive thing I can say about the Löwe players is: I smile when I encounter an enemy one and "dance" with him/her. I have 5 german marks on the front hull of my IS. They are all Löwe 1 on 1 kills. :beam:
To finish my argument:
Players greatly benefit from grinding their way from the bottom to the top tiers. They also greatly benefit from playing different types of tanks. I have a unique view of how to play artillery and know where those usually hides and that they need protection from fast moving light or medium tanks. If you spot a fast mover, don't let it pass you thinking it is not a threat to your invincible armour. It is not you he is looking for. The only type of tank I have not played are the Tank Destroyers. I don't know much about what their day to day struggles are. Only thing I know is that if they are "tracked" they are usually dead. (I took out an Object 704 with my Hummel by first tracking it and circumvent it and wait for reload.. it was too slow :sneaky: )
Yeah it's not the fact that its a premium tank that annoys me, its just that it seems like most Lowe players are new and bought it while they were in Tier 3, so they have no idea really how to play the game correctly (with any tank, let alone a T8 heavy).
I might get one some day though just because I hear they're excellent credit farmers.
OMG...
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/Lowe.jpg
Did we lose? Oh yeah... spectacularly.
At looooong last, the Panther is mine.
I think I'm going to put off the Tiger until later and start working towards my Shermans/Pershing. I'm not going to be able to freeze my spending for so long again to get enough to afford the Tiger (I grinded the Panther on the DB with no mounted equipment) and I just think I'm ready to explore the American line a bit.
I am playing a test version again. It will be the upcoming 0.6.7.
There is one new interesting tank - the Chinese Type 59. It is a T54 lookalike and it is a premium tank (10 000 gold).
I'll see if I can get a snapshot of it the next game. I was totally mesmerized by its performance and forgot to take a picture.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/Type59.jpg
post mortem
two more, including the new T50 (there are two of them, but i don't know which this is)
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_015-1.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_016-1.jpg
notice the new Chinese star in the decals file:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/graffiti_stickers-1.jpg
I also saw a few other new tanks: the German VK28 which is a light tank. I think it is lightening fast (I played a game with one and it just disappeared up the hill to the mill).
Also the two new Russian T50s should be interesting and will be a menace to the SPGs. They are really fast and will break through lines and get right up to you.
Yeah, before I forget...
There was one other new tank of notice, the American M24 Chaffee. Lightening fast but I only met one once or twice, and it can't be "one shotted" like the former light tanks (Pz III). I hit one directly in the rear with my IS3 122mm and it took only 50% of its Health points.
[Test blog warning]
I decided to follow the path that I am currently on in the public game.. to see what is in store for me should I buy a premium account one day.
The IS3 is a great tank and if you have spent experience and upgrades on the IS, you will have much available to you when you get the stock IS3.
I can't remember there being any grind anger when I took it for a spin the first time. You install the proved D-25-T from the IS (if you have researched it) and it feels like a beefed up IS that goes slightly faster (38 km/h).
The Health points are still low compared to the German tanks, but your rounded and sloped Armour design should produce several "projectile bounces" even from high calibered guns. That said, I have whopped some IS3 behinds with my IS, but I suspect those were pure stock run by tier-rushers.
A weak point I have found is where the turret meets the hull on the front.
The tank has very low profile and shots hitting the top of the turret are near always bouncing.
The fact that it moves faster and is more agile compared to the IS with the engine upgrade, makes this a very enjoyable tank.
The BL-9 (122mm) has slightly slower reload time compared to the D-25-T (122mm) but penetrates 50mm more (225mm). With the BL-9 you can take on tier 9 and 10 tanks and live to tell the tale.
The IS3 in my garage (fully upgraded)
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_021-1.jpg
IS3 traversing a hill... spraying diesel fumes into the air. NoX filter anyone?
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_018-1.jpg
The IS4 was at first try a big disappointment. It has been quite a while since the last time I experienced such grind rage.
First of all the tank is just dirt slow... I am talking about stock KV slow.
Being slow, you get to the battle late and my first game was such... I wasn't really able to contribute. Second game also... being last I was zerg'd. Being slow = easy target for SPGs. Third game - blown to bits by artillery. Frustrating...
Ok, I got the xp for a new turret. ARGH... suspension can't cope with the weight. need more xp for new suspension... getting low yield games being slow... argh!!!
What can I do? - buying plugins.
New engine filter (600 000 credits) will up the engine performance by 50% *check*
Turret mechanics (600 000 credits) to increase speed of targeting - *check*
Gun improvement (500 000 credits) to increase reload speed - *check*
OK now we are on to something... Won my first game contributing. Suspension installed, new turret installed (increased hp from 1590 to 1790) - finally a somewhat normal tank experience.
Unresearched modules: Engine 700 bhp, the S-70 legendary 130mm gun (260mm penetration)
Hopefully with these upgrades, the IS4 will be as good as I thought it will be.
It is a tough bastard though... it can take a lot of punishment. Being Zerg'd it took a while before they were able to reduce me to a heap of steel scrap.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_022.jpg
Veho Nex
09-07-2011, 21:28
I got my P4 a little while ago and am about 20k xp short of finishing it off and moving to the vk3001(h). Im thinking about going P so I can go on down the tree to the maus, but I havent really decided yet. I know for a fact though that I am going to grab the tiger despite how much it sucks. One day it will get a buff.
All I ever hear about the 3001P is that it suuuuuucks. The Tiger P is supposedly a lot better than the normal Tiger, though, so it wouldn't be a complete waist. The way I am though, I want the normal Tiger more simply because it's the real Tiger. The Tiger P just looks wrong.
If you want the real Tiger too, I suggest you get the 3601, then the DB and then side-grade to the Tiger (this way you keep an opening in the higher tiered mediums too).
Whatever you do don't sell your Panzer IV.
Yeah, don't sell your PzIV.
If you ever fancy trying a SPG, the PzIV will lead to a really good artillery piece - the Hummel (bumble bee).
I have however never tried any of the Medium lines, besides having to move through a few mediums on my way to the heavies.
The Mediums I have tried:
Russian T28 - relatively fast, but it has a big profile. The best gun is a 85mm which was pretty good and can take out PzIII with one shot.
American freebee M4something. Utter crap...
PzIII - fast and fun to hunt SPGs with. Short 75mm as best gun, which is a must if you do SPG hunting.
PzIV - the sniper. The KwK 42 L/70 (75mm) is a really good gun for long range sniping.
VK3601 which apparently will soon be considered a heavy - the best medium tank I have played. top gun - the KwK 36 L/56 (88mm) is good, not great but good.
You do have the option to mount a Tier 8 gun (konisch) on the VK36 which uses gold ammo. I used this in the last test and it penetrated KV-5s.
With the introduction of the new patch (0.6.7) I suspect the game will be quite different. The new Tier 4 and 5 light tanks will be a force to be reckoned with. The test games have shown this.
With the new T50 and T50-2 on the opposing team, they will be able to reach your base within the the first minutes. They will search for the artillery pieces and have them highlighted for the artillery on their own team if they don't finish them off themselves. They will harass your lines and you will have to be a good shot to take them out.
I haven't seen much of the VK28 which looks like a beefed up Leopard. The M24 Chafee is also a tank not much seen in the test. People do tend to go for the T50 and the T50-2. But the test game is 80% Russians and they tend to favour their own.
However, this is just in the test. They might change them for the release.
There will be an increase of mediums with the release of the Chinese Type 59. It is a premium tank and new players will be able to buy it on their first day in the game. It is a T54 with a smaller gun. If they do a test2 for the 0.6.7, I will get one. I will not be surprised if your game will be flooded with these.
Finally:
Yeah, the IS4 is finally fully developed. The S-70 is a formidable gun and the enemy should be afraid. I can see why they move the IS4 to tier 10 in a upcoming release.
The games I have played lately is by now nearly all tier 9-10.
It is fun to shoot into the front of a T30 turret and see it drop from 100% to 67% (The American Heavies do have the best turret armour in the game). Or take out a struggling Maus with one shot (well it was already pounded down to 20% by others). The other lower tier 8 and 7 tanks flee when I come rolling. I one-shotted a ISU-152 and ran into a E-75 which had its behind towards me. 50% to 1% in one shot. :beam:
But getting the IS4 to a decent level takes grinding. In the test you get 10x of what the norm would be in the production game, so it will take time to get there if you just got it.
The S70 is a loooooong gun.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_023.jpg
Test 2 of 0.6.7 is out, and accounts reset.
Lost my IS4, but this time we got 15 000 gold.
I bought the Type 59 medium tank with 100% crew = 7500 + 800 gold. (they reduced the price from 10 000).
This is a tier 8 tank.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_024.jpg
As I said, I have never really played "Medium" tanks, so this should be a learning experience.
First game put me into "the Shire" (Redshire) and not too many Type 59s in this game... I started in the south camp and went left with a few tanks... a T50-2 ran before me and soon outdistanced me. How fast does those go? My top speed was 55 km/h. The enemy was prepared and had sent all their mediums that way which blocked our path. I was stuck in rolling hills with no where to go. I was soon shot to pieces... Not a great first game. Need to think Medium and not Heavy.
Second game put me into Karelia also in the south of that map.
The heavies usually go right to the mountain range. I went left again.
Again a T50 speed past me.. but this time I had downhill to pick up speed right off the bat... Yeah I nearly kept pace with the T50 (maybe it was stock?) but as soon as I had to climb, it out distanced me. I had a fellow Type 59 with me and we soon discovered that the enemy never went to our side.
We got nearly to their staired hill before encountering the first enemy. A Type 59... with its backside towards me. Apparently he was aiming for my comrade T50 who went past a heart beat ago.
BOOM, right in the coin hole, down to 67% He swerves towards me and I had not stopped to fire so I go right past him to hide my backside from any TDs looking our way. Luckily there are plenty of tall rocks in that area.
My comrade engage the Type 59 and together we shoot it to minced steel.
Our fellow T50 reveals that there are really no one on the hill besides a Tiger II, a M3 Lee and a ISU 152. The M3 is rather tall and with my low profile I am able to see his top turret while sneaking up the hill. M3 Minced Steel. The Tiger II is worse, its gun sits very near its turret top and the sneaking will be to lure it into firing and miss.
My comrade joins me at the bottom of the hill and we go back and forth showing some turret and the Tiger II shoots over our head. We rush up and put two tungsten projectiles into its turret. But the Tiger II has thick skin and we don't do much damage..
Ok time to pull up the scope and aim at weak points. I remembered from my days as Tiger II driver that the gun mantle is somewhat fragile. Don't know if they have fixed it, but I had to take a shot. I aim right down the Tiger II barrel... Success... it is retreating behind a rock... Bad move.
We rush in and take up positions to fire from both sides of the rock... I am hit ... I forgot about the ISU 152 and it lights up on the minimap after its thundering shot. Sneaky bastard...
Well... reinforcements is finally within range and together we take out the ISU... The Tiger II is struggling. We are popping in and out of cover and plugging his weak spots.
My comrade succumbs to artillery fire and it is up to me to finish the Tiger II.
I play cat'n mouse with it around the rock and my superior agility prevails, he is down to 12% and I pop out from both sides of the rock with the hope of him doing something stupid.. like exposing his flank..
I take him out by putting a shell through his engine.
Luckily my team has cleaned up behind the ridge and we win.
Third game was more fun.
It puts me into Sand River. Again in the south. This game has a lot of Type 59. On my team we are 5 and we all go right to the slope.
We are met by other Type 59s and a few heavies. We play peek a boo on the large sand dune.
A few minutes down the road and I notice that one of them has snuck around and is fireing on us from behind, I turn around promptly leaving my comrades. This guy is heading towards our base and ... our arty .. I speed up and is able to track him as he crests the base top. There is a Ferdinand there ...
There is also a T32 protecting the arty. I turn around and leave, feeling they have everything under control. The smoldering ruin of an enemy Type 59 is a testimony to this.
There was a battle with one survivor on the top of the right hand slope. A friendly Type 59.
We start to move towards their base, when we notice we are the only tanks left on our team and our enemy is starting to capture our base. I screech to a halt and set full speed returning to our base. My friend follows, but at a distance. We won't both fall in the same trap if there is one.
I crest the base plateau and there is a Tiger I there. 25%... easy pie. He is hiding behind his latest victim and my first shot only reduces him to 16%.
He fires at me... my 200mm front turret armour turns the projectile to a bounce.
I am at full speed and circle him and fire into his side. Tiger I is a smoking wreck.
I am hit... someone behind me... A M26 Pershing.
He too is hiding in a corner behind a smoking hull. I fire ... bounce.. I need to get closer.
I am hit.. takes 20% off my hp.
This is a lucky one or knows my weak points. I zig zag as I approach. He fires again.. this time my plating bounces his shot. I fire again. hit ... he is down to 12%
He is hiding good... I can no longer get a clean shot. He is able to fire at me.. my driver dies. Oh... this reduces my agility dramatically.
My friend has just disposed of an enemy and is approaching from behind. The Pershing is finally losing his cool and turns to meet him... this gives me the opening I am looking for.
I fire promptly into his now exposed flank and 12% is reduced to 0.
Two enemy remain. Their arty and a PanzerJäger.
We keep moving and artillery fire rain down around us.
My friend lead on, but soon out distance me as my driver replacement is not a good driver. I should keep back anyway. He reach the enemy base and goes straight to the arty to the left. The Jäger on the right turns and exposes his flank to me. I punch a hole in his side and he rushes my friend. I am not able to drive faster and I am still a few hundred meters away. They both go behind a sand dune and I am not able to support. But my comrade is a capable fighter and the PzJäger is disposed of.
We were two against 5 in the last minutes, but we pulled through. This tank is just sweet.
Couldn't have asked for a more perfect first victory with the 5x special going...
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594696432378531925/33A34FFE50038F4778E17CCB1668D83745F7CE10/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594696432378529458/B4BF9405DB9D9CE9EEAD8E84ECF0CF5A5EA90413/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594696432378531265/851745D2CA07A471707364D9C3611835FF6F0039/
Thats why you never sell your Panzer IV :)
Leytenant Minin had been on leave the last three days and had enjoyed vodka, women and song in the nearest city. He felt rejuvenated and ready to lead his crew to new victories on the battlefield in his fully upgraded Iosif Stalin version 4 tank.
He looked forward to meeting up with his trusted crew and resume their heroic wins against the enemy. Even though some of his crew was not quite aligned with the common politics of the Soviet Union, he would not rat them out to the political officer. The crew was just too valuable.
This particular morning was fresh and chilly and he met his crew outside the tank hangar where they smoked their imported cigarettes. They looked concerned. When he asked them about it, Starhina Korobeynikov answered: “They told us to wait here until all of us were gathered”.
“Well? We are all here should we enter?”
Leytenant Minin led his men into the hangar and were met by a group of men. Men in uniforms and men in … lab coats?
“Greetings leytenant.” A Polkovnic Krutjov stepped out of the group with a wide grin. Leytenant Minin looked suspiciously at the elderly officer and his outstretched hand. The Polkovnic contined: “You and your crew have been elected to test out our new tank”. It was then that Leytenant Minin noticed what his men were gawking at. Behind the bustle of men in the hangar stood a hulk on tracks. “Wha….” Started Minin . The Polkovnic interrupted: “It is the Iosif Stalin version 7. We hope it will contribute to utterly crushing the Germans on the battle field.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_028-1.jpg
Leytenant Minin had some objections: “But, we have just mastered the IS4, a new tank will be unfamiliar and right out dangerous for my crew, we…” the Polkovnic interrupted again: “It will be fine, the handling will be similar and it is the same gun as on your version 4, the S70 130mm. The armour is thicker and it has a bigger engine. Your chances of surviving on the battle field is greater.” Minin was about to further his objections, but the Polkovnic just ended the discussion: “Your objection has been duly noted, but you are ordered to deploy this tank to the battle field. Here is your 5th member of your crew.” The Polkovnic pulled out a young Serzhant from the group: “This is Mladshiy Serzhant Volkov, a capable loader.” Leytenant Minin shook the hand of the young Serzhant: “Do you have any experience with Heavy guns, Serzhant?”. The Serzhant looked disconcerted. “I have only experience as a loader on an IS-2.” Minin smiled: “That will do, our Serzhant Tsvetov will show you the ropes on this particular gun.”
He shouted to his crew: Men, let’s see what this girl can do.
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They met up with elements of the 20th Tank Corps and its 1st Heavy brigade, the 2nd Medium brigade and from the Guards Mortar Battalion. The Germans had taken the north part of ‘Mountain Pass’ and it was time for Mother Russia to take back what belonged to her. The wait to enter the battle field was long and tedious but finally Leytenant Minin and crew was able to deploy the new and seemingly formidable IS7 to the battle field. They were met by another IS7 and salutes were exhanged.
The time had come to start their advance and the tanks roared into life. Black diesel smoke filled the valleys as they divided about equally to the flanks on either side of the German position.
Minin's crew and the other IS7 took the right flank that led down to a river delta. They were followed by a T29 and a few medium tanks. The IS7 deployed its 1050 horsepowers and roared down the hill. This tank could move. The speed dial stopped at 49 km/t and they soon out-distanced the other tanks.
Around a bend they met a Tiger II on top of a bridge crossing over to Soviet territory. Minin ordered a shot at the Königstiger as it sped by, but the shot went wide. The gunner Starshina Korobeynikov swore: “This thing has a slow trigger... I will need to adjust.” Minin shouted: “Forget the König, let’s press on, someone else will deal with that heavy.”
They pressed on upward towards the ice glacier that led to the base of the Germans. No serious resistance yet. They kept radio contact with the other groups and monitored their advance. The Left group seemed to be doing quite well and had broken through the resistance they had met.
Minin and crew were now on the ice, and they hoped the ice would carry their behemoth. At nearly 70 tons, they would need to be careful not to dig the tank down into the ice and get stuck.
The enemy had taken position up by the entrance to the pass that led to their base. A captured T54 led the defence by making sure Menin's position was known to their artillery. They decided to rush in and was rewarded by detecting the position of a GW Tiger artillery piece which had positioned itself right behind the defence line. A moment later the trusted Mortar Battalion had made piecemeal of it. Minin and crew engaged the T54 while the comrade IS7 engaged a Tiger model Porsche. From behind a rock appeared a 72 ton VK4502 Ausf. B Heavy tank with the formidable German premium gun; the 128mm KwK 44 L/55. Now this is a foe you don’t want to meet in narrow quarters. Its 252 mm turret armour was near impenetrable, so Minin’s gunner needed to aim low on the hull. Even then it would be slow going. The comrade IS7 suddenly blew up in a cloud of shrapnel. Behind the VK45 appeared a new behemoth, a PzVIII Maus, the nearly 200 ton German monster tank. Oh crap this would end badly. Minin cried for backup and the left flank group soon replied. A Hammer on anvil tactic was soon agreed upon, Minin’s IS7 being the anvil. Minin gave the order to the driver to advance. Around the corner they went. The Maus was engaged with the “hammer” forces and the VK45 was frantically trying to turn its exposed vulnerable back from the enemy. The gunner firmly placed a shell into the side of the VK45 which apparently blew up some important modules. Minin and crew advanced as fast as the 1050hp engine could manage and the loaders had soon readied another 130mm AP round. The Maus was down to 23% and Minin and crew firmly put it between themselves and the VK45. The gunner aimed at the side armour were the front mounted engine would be and let the 130mm projectile fly. The Maus blew up into cinders and the “Hammer” finally reduced the exposed VK45 to a smoking ruin.
There were no more resistance at the German base and the Hammer & Anvil groups could claim it for their own. Minin jumped off the IS7 to inspect the damages. He looked concerned as there were no apparent deflection marks on the front hull. Near all hits had penetrated the laboriously designed glacis. It’s deflection design had failed but the strength of the armour had prevailed. Maybe he wouldn’t miss the IS4 as much anyway. He worried though that the IS7 would attract too much attention and would be considered a "priority to remove" by the enemy.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_031-1.jpg
The Type 59 is a fantastic tank.
If you are a pack of 3 or 4, its like the tank world's version of velociraptors. They are right out deadly, agile and with a good gun. If they still go for 7500 gold after the public 0.6.7 upgrade, I am very tempted to get one.
They are seriously raking in cash.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_030-1.jpg
Now, this is 10x normal, but 62 000 is still much for one kill and the usual medium fieldwork.
Veho Nex
09-18-2011, 10:36
Finally got the 88 on my VK3001P, almost got my wolverine, and Im slowly working my way up the American Arty tree as well. Im finding credits are slow to come in, especially with arty. Played a bunch of T9-10 battles in my VK today with my buddies. Gained like 20k xp over about 15 matches.
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Take 3 days of premium at the price of 1 day premium!
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Veho Nex
09-24-2011, 07:09
I just got my Tiger P last night. Have had a rough time with its slow speed. Though its awesome to watch people who dont know better, just light my frontal armor up and not go for my turret. I took 112 shots my first match with it.
Finally got the real turret for the Tiger. Even though its still the same crappy short 88mm gun I do better with the new turret, I guess its the confidence boost from it looking like THE Tiger.
wait are the tanks free too or do you have to use real mony because i have seen some mmo's doing this
You can play the game without spending a dime and be fine.
You can buy gold to get a premium account which gives you 50% more credits and XP from battles and do some other things with it, but its mostly just a nice perk.
I've played WoT for 221 hours according to X-Fire and I've only spent 7 dollars on it.
To get free 750 gold, a week free of premium and an M3 Stuart (Russian premium version):
1. click this: http://login.ign.com/prime/promos/world-of-tanks/index.html
2. Click 2 | Score then GET IN GAME ITEMS NOW!
3. Sign up for the free 30 day trial.
4. Once its gone through (I did it with my paypal that has like 70 cents on it) repeat steps 1 and 2, and there will be a link to sign in somewhere (can't remember, can't see it now that I'm logged in) and it'll take you to a fileplanet page to log in (use whatever email you just did for the free trial), then it'll take you to a page to get your code.
5. Put the code in here: https://game.worldoftanks.com/account/promocode/
6. Cancel IGN membership
Note: I suggest you do this while you have a full garage (buy the free Tier 1s if you have to) because you'll get a free slot with the Stuart.
Enjoy
Ja'chyra
09-26-2011, 20:50
Just tried it, it works and you can cancel immediately.
Good stuff
Veho Nex
09-26-2011, 21:07
Yes, does work. Love my little stuart, plus got back to a month of premium with this.
Just tried it, it works and you can cancel immediately.
Good stuff
Stuart was fun but I ended up selling it to re-buy the StuG III which I regret selling at all. Thanks to the gold, the free slot from the Stuart, and the double income on the German tanks, I have a huge collection (by my standards)
Panther, T-34/85, PzIV, Tiger I, StuG III, M3 Lee (hate it, want the iconic Sherman), T40 (going for M10/Slugger), and then a free slot because I'm going to keep the T-34/85 when I unlock the T-43.
The IGN trick worked for us Europeans also.
Nice tip Graphic.. :thumbsup:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2r2yt7t.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo5mMk6aO8g
Ja'chyra
09-27-2011, 20:23
Really struggling to make money in this game but I seem to do best with SPG's, any suggestions? The German one can't hit anything, the accuracy is pants
Really struggling to make money in this game but I seem to do best with SPG's, any suggestions? The German one can't hit anything, the accuracy is pants
Which german?
A crew of 100% experience is a must when playing artillery. That and a good portion luck.
I took out a Löwe when I suddenly saw it on my right flank. I just turned and shot in one go even though it was probably 100 yards away. Luck struck and it blew up into smithereens.
Sometimes I will aim until the circle of impact doesn't "shrink" anymore, and then some more before loosening a shell. I am sure it will hit, but it goes wide. The targeted tank didn't even move.
Once I shot even though the line of sight was red (impossible shot) but the tank blew up the same and I was credited the kill.
I especially like the Hummel because it is fast on its tracks. In a head to head with a Priest SPG, I encircled it like a fast medium while it tried to keep up by just turning. I didn't get to shoot it myself (someone else did), but I laughed a while after that.
(edit: Maybe it wasn't a priest... it was definitely American with its chocolate colour and it was slow. My companion SPG was a Panther, so it might have been the same tiered american )
Really struggling to make money in this game but I seem to do best with SPG's, any suggestions? The German one can't hit anything, the accuracy is pants
You need to keep a couple Tier 5s and 6s in order to earn money at a decent rate. If you're in the early tiers, don't worry it gets better. If you're higher tiered, I'm guessing you sold your 5 and 6 tier tanks and now it just comes in at a trickle.
Or you could just buy a Lowe.
Veho Nex
09-28-2011, 06:49
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541780338617370727/D550165CCDC3E6C987B384D2C764A02C14E7C833/
And they wonder why I drink.
You should really use a contour mod, Nex. They're invaluable to gameplay.
I use this one: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/35966-aslains-icon-contour-mod-v151/
This one has more data: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/48607-pogs-contour-icon-3x-by-grepa-for-v67/
The second one might be more useful but I prefer the first. The second one is really cluttered to me and would probably just distract me.
Ja'chyra
09-28-2011, 21:19
I'm just starting out and the highest tier I have is 3, got about 150k now and building up my research points to get some better tanks.
Favourite so far is the T57.
scottishranger
09-28-2011, 21:48
You should really use a contour mod, Nex. They're invaluable to gameplay.
I use this one: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/35966-aslains-icon-contour-mod-v151/
This one has more data: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/48607-pogs-contour-icon-3x-by-grepa-for-v67/
The second one might be more useful but I prefer the first. The second one is really cluttered to me and would probably just distract me.
Iv been playing a while and love the game, but i dont use any mods. Would you reccommend any in particular?
The only mods I use are that icon mod, custom skins and sometimes voice mods.
Speaking of skins, I've got a pretty nice set of them right now.
This PzIV skin is very good: http://mirtankov.net/german/germed/pzkpfw-iv/1416-pzkpfw-iv-askalanor.html
There's a lot more detail on it than you can see in the screenshot. I recommend you use the swapped turret models so you can be fully upgraded and still look like a REAL Panzer IV.
Use these instructions to do it (copied from official forums):
FIRST DO A BACKUP OF THE TANK FILES YOU ARE GOING TO MODIFY!!!, in the Pz4 case: G01_Pz_IV_AusfG
THIS IS ONLY A "COSMETIC" CHANGE!!!, it won't affect the tank performance or stats or whatever
go to the game folder WOT --> res --> vehicles --> german --> G01_Pz_IV_AusfG --> noraml --> lod0
copy the files turret_01.model , turret_01.primitive , turret_01.visual and replace the _01 in the 3 files with a _02, then paste in lod0 folder replacing turret_02.model, etc
This way the shmalturm will look like the standard turret, you also have to do a similar procedure with the guns so the 75mm l/70 looks like the 75mm l/48
I also did this with the Panther to keep the real turret. I'm just really tired of looking at the stupid schmalturm.
Here's the Panther skin I'm using. It says Panther II but its just an error they made.
http://mirtankov.net/german/germed/panther-ii/2316-panther-ii-kamutator.html
Again, way more impressive in-game.
As for the Tiger I this skin is pretty darn superb in game:
http://wotskins.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/pz-vi-tiger-woodland-camo-decal/
The IS3 is more expensive than I remember. I was ready to buy it, and then noticed that it costs 2 500 000 not 1 500 000...
I need another 1 000 000... :beadyeyes:
I think it always cost that much, Tier 8s are expensive.
I'm working three lines towards Tier 8 but have nowhere near the money required to buy even one.
Veho Nex
10-02-2011, 23:30
Fools dun know about my 105
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542906688495104832/461C0E6645C78C3C6954B7906552C44B85F57660/
33 shots and 8 hits with a 105mm? Sounds to me like someone made a big loss, money-wise.
Important part in Veo Nex' post is that he took out a tier 10 with a tier 3 tank. Good job.
33 shots suggests a fast reloading SPG and the shells are probably not that expensive, am I right?
My Hummel (which has just turned Elite) has a maximum of 18 shells (150 mm 3.24 rate of fire) which costs 1120 pr shell (20160 cr for a full re-supply).
There is no info about top armour on the tanks in WoT and I wonder what armour type is affected when I hit a tank right on its planet.
Tier 9/10 heavy tanks are "near impossible" to take out with my Hummel (except IS7..?) and I usually just chip off 20% with each hit.
The Tank Destroyers are another matter. The German top TDs are hard, but the Russians I can take out with one hit. Especially if I aim at their flat backsides ((I)SUs and Object 704).
All tanks from tier 5 and down are either taken out with one shot or two
Oh yes, it says M37, I was thinking german or US heavy tank where each shell costs 1k+. Though firing 33 shots with those is rather unusual.
The difference in player skill in the lower tiers is shocking. You don't notice it when you're starting out because you suck too, but now that I've went back down into tier 3 and 4 to get a Sherman and a M10 Wolverine, its really noticeable.
Funny sometimes, but it can get frustrating.
I find it funny that my T40 stats are 23 battles and 32 destroyed, but only 35% won. The amount of times I've gotten like 3-5 kills and my team still loses makes me a sad panda.
Veho Nex
10-03-2011, 19:20
It cost me just shy of 12k to rearm my M37. It carries 128 rounds or around that and reloads in about 8 seconds. I don't have the patience that most arty does, I still normally use my Tiger P and Wolverine.
Yesterday the cries of many unfortunate souls could be heard as the IosifStalin triumvirate of Sigurd, LeetEriksson and Husar roamed the servers. :2thumbsup:
Just wanted to say that platooning up can be a lot of fun and whoever else is on the european servers can add me, same nickname as here, if yours differs it may help to tell me who you are of course.
and anyone on the NA servers can add Horrorsh0w
Veho Nex
10-04-2011, 19:26
and anyone on the NA servers can add Horrorsh0w
Im NA, you guys can add me under VehoNex
Ja'chyra
10-05-2011, 19:09
Added you Hus, I'm Aeil
KV-13, once it has the tracks, turret and 85mm, is pretty badass. Super thick armor and scout-like speed.
Even so I will probably sell it to buy a T-43 once I research that and the IS.
I had the toughest game in a long while yesterday. Both teams were good and we barely were able to secure the win.
The opponents nearly had us with a sneaky Slugger who sat in our camp. A lucky shot from our arty got splash damage enough to reduce the cap count from 95% to 50% and I was able to get back to spot it for a flanking TD who took it out. It was a well executed save. I worked well with our two tank destroyers.
A good tactic, if you know the TDs are there is to do the round dance with bigger tier tanks to expose its weak spots to the TDs.
I was just outside the walls in the Sigrfried line just by the "gate" and a Tiger II decided to rush me from the town, I had the TDs in my back in the three lines across the field. I got in a shot before it was able to turn its front glacier towards me. And the TDs would face the same problem with the tough front armour. I started my dance from its right side (my left) and proceeded to circle it. It followed suit keeping its strong front towards my 122mm D-25T. I had it turning its backside to our TDs who shot it to smithereens.
When I was VERY low on HP I seemed not to be able to hit anything. It was quite funny, I had a few near death experiences because of that. I think it is the imminent threat of death that makes the game so fun.
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_030-2.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_031-2.jpg
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_032-1.jpg
At times I am shaking with adrenalin after a good match, especially those where my team is totally dependent on my success.
The funnest map IMO is the Himmelsdorf. I was the top gun in my Iossif Stalin. I did not perform well in the early game. I had to leave a crucial block to go back to save our camp from being capped. My team was not appreciative of this and called me a useless IS. I had only one kill to show for when all my team mates were dead. There were 7 enemies left including 2 arties 2 KV, a IS, a TD and a KV-13. I was lucky... they never did a coordinated attack. I put the tracks in motion and basically drove around in the small streets around my base. I first encountered the IS with his TD backup. the TD was behind me and the IS was weary of me. He only had the 100mm. I took out the TD with a lucky one shot and proceeded to attack the IS. He got stuck in a building in a very narrow street and I just encircled him and blew out his engine which caused it to burn and die. The KVs were also a tandem team, but they were wounded. I took one out with a shell and the other I just ran over. the KV-13 was at full health but sadly no match. 5 down and only the two arties. I drove around a little without seeing them and started on the long journey towards their base. I was half way when I noticed that our base was being capped. I promptly turned and chose the route where I knew there were a lot of wreckage tanks to hide behind. The clock was running against me and I had to just get into their view at full speed and try for luck. They were smart and had chosen two different locations. I released a shell at one of them and my luck had ran out. I reduced it to 1% from 100 (what is up with that anyway?) but I got two arty shells in my planet. I was however praised by those who had thought me useless. It was a near win and I got the top-gun medal. If I hadn't gone for their base, I would have singlehandedly won the game for my team with 8 kills to my name.
When the defeat screen came up, I literally shook. I had to walk around the house to calm down. NEVER before have a game affected me like that. It was not rage, but a shear thrill. Like when you ride a motorcycle and you troll a BMW on the highway and it nearly goes bad.
I beat my previous record last night. In a Sherman of all things.
https://i.imgur.com/p3rRR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kQZl1.jpg
The enemy team ignored the mountain so I was free to hang out up there scouting and taking pot shots. Most of the XP had to have come from other people's damage.
I was sooooo close to buy gold last night...
I had just saved enough credits to get the D-25T for my IS3 and train my IS crew to drive it, and took it for a spin. Utter failure... All though I did pawn a Panther II, the bill was more than I had earned and I got in the red money-wise. *sigh*
I spent a little gold (from the IGN trick) to get a premium account for a day to see what the difference was. Yes.. the tank was making money, but not so much as e.g. my PzIV.
I guess running it as near stock (don't have money enough to buy the already researched upgrades through the IS) will make it hard for your success.
That tank just needs the new turret and the BL-9 gun.
Sooo, I started playing my PzIV again. I think I might try the German Medium line. I unlocked the VK3601 but lack both the money and the garage slot for it.
The plan is to move to the VK3002 and then Panther. The Tiger is also close when I get the VK3002 (only 20k'ish experience). I plan to get rid of the VK36 as soon as I am able to get the VK3002.
I know I will sooner than later reach a point where I can't play without a premium account.
Should I then just play lower tiered tanks?
Should I bite the bitter apple and support this game with money?
Maybe I am sick and tired of the game and just move on?
I really want the Type-59, but I saw 4 of them in a game last night on the same team and they were mocked... MOCKED!!!
LeftEyeNine
10-11-2011, 18:10
I was tempted and just downladed and installed this one.
What now ? (EU servers)
I was tempted and just downladed and installed this one.
What now ? (EU servers)
Go Russian m8...
I was tempted and just downladed and installed this one.
What now ? (EU servers)
Go Russian if you want to brawl (more powerful guns, less accurate), German if you want to snipe (less powerful guns, very accurate) and American is like a mix.
But that doesn't really help, does it?
Just set your sights on a tank you think is cool and that you want and go for it. I set my sights on the Panther.
But I can personally vouch for the fun-ness of each nation's trees. There are only a handful of truly horrible tanks in the game, the rest is a lot of nitpicking.
Veho Nex
10-12-2011, 19:49
Go Russian if you want to brawl (more powerful guns, less accurate), German if you want to snipe (less powerful guns, very accurate) and American is like a mix.
But that doesn't really help, does it?
Just set your sights on a tank you think is cool and that you want and go for it. I set my sights on the Panther.
But I can personally vouch for the fun-ness of each nation's trees. There are only a handful of truly horrible tanks in the game, the rest is a lot of nitpicking.
I set my sights on four tanks, all within reach and Ive obtained 2 of them so far.
Ausuf B (http://game.worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/germany/heavyTank/vk4502p)
Wolverine (http://game.worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/usa/AT-SPG/m10-wolverine) (There is no check mark smiley)
Tiger I (http://game.worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/germany/heavyTank/pzvi) (There is no check mark smiley)
Maus (http://game.worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/germany/heavyTank/maus)
I must admit....
Yeah, I succumbed to the evil trap of wargames.net. I found myself in a position where patience had ended. The long games that yielded mere scraps were a toll.
I have one thing to show for... I was able to buy an IS3, crew it and take it for a spin once or twice without spending an ounce of gold.
I spent my first gold on a slot for the VK3601... and then a slot for the Type 59
Having a premium tank is a blessing in disguise. It seldom rakes in less than 30k pr game (even if you lose) and the norm is around 50k.
Yeah, you have to spend money to get one and you will be treated as dirt by some players. Using it when you lack funding is the way to go. It is a very good tank, but it is only a side kick to your real goals - advancing to the tanks you can't buy for money. It has been invaluable to me the few days that I have played it. I was able to buy the 700k+ VK36, buy the rest of the already researched modules for the IS3 (stock IS3 is as crap as any other stock tanks) and it has great fun factor.
I felt like I had betrayed our little group of "stick it to the man", and found it quite amusing that my friend Husar had done the same. (yeah, I am outing you Hus)
We are now under the yoke of paying for games... :beam:
Veho Nex
10-14-2011, 18:08
Dang you guys really make that much with premium tanks? This blows, I get lucky if I make 50k on a good game when I kill 3-6 tanks, live, and take 0 damage.
I have to say the whole premium tank hate is getting a bit worse lately.
I've had several games where people insulted premium tank users in the most colourful ways, way beyond the occasional "Löwe noob".
One game some guy was hating me for playing the Type 59, another was a german guy who was insulting us Type 59 players in the most colourful ways and then switched to german to become even more vulgar, the funny thing was he even annoyed his own team with his insults and they started to make fun of him for camping with his T28 at spawn and getting 0 kills, hehe.
But since then I've come across several other instances where people would hate on premium tank users just because, with one we had a little discussion as well and he ended up quiet when I asked him whether he always used other peoples' hard work for free and it turned out there were many premium account users on the server, heh.
I think everyone should spend as much as they can and think the game is worth, no need to hate either side. I decided to get a premium so I wouldn't need to pay monthly for a premium account to maintain some high tier tanks.
It's not like the hatred touched me a lot but I thought it's worth mentioning.
That said, the Type 59 has so far helped me greatly in financing both my Ferdinand and my IS-3, which I just bought. People complaining about it being too good should be happy there isn't a Tiger II in it's place, although they often end up on the opposite side instead...
Something that I have noticed is that (non-premium) mediums are almost completely absent in high tier matches, probably because there isn't really any point in going up against a heavy in a medium, you may be able to circle him, which is you only way to really hurt him, but in 90% of the cases his heavy buddies will be waiting behind him and crush you before you can get your second shot him, something needs to be done about it. something like limiting the amount of heavies per match or so. :shrug:
LeftEyeNine
10-15-2011, 11:05
Hey, somebody get me under your wings/ranks/platoon. |:
Hey, somebody get me under your wings/ranks/platoon. |:
Did you add Husar to your friends list? If yes, what is your nickname in the game? I suppose you chose the EU servers.
LeftEyeNine
10-15-2011, 18:35
If it's Husar, not some Husarz1929191 of the lot there, then I just added you.
Veho Nex
10-16-2011, 10:15
One of my better games with my Tiger P
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542908182348036155/3F4072FAE2BC5E00F46F0ACAD555BAC7EEA7F87D/
Good job Veho...
This is how the Type 59 do its job... being on the front line harassing the enemy;
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/shot_036.jpg
Is that with or without premium? :stare:
Alexander the Pretty Good
10-18-2011, 04:54
Good job Veho...
This is how the Type 59 do its job... being on the front line harassing the enemy;
Not much fun for the StuG III jockey...
Not much fun for the StuG III jockey...
:sneaky: Those StuG IIIs are way over their head when meeting a Type 59. Usually a one well placed shot is enough to send it to the eternal hunting grounds.
To cheer you up, it's not getting better after the Stug III, until you get a Ferdi with a 128mm gun. The JgPz IV gets the same or less penetration than the Stug but is a tier higher. The Jagdpanther has borderline penetration for the tier and the Ferdi starts out with the same but in higher tier matches. Now you may say they have a good rate of fire and do decent damage, plus are somewhat armored (debatable until the Ferdi) but if you cannot penetrate and cannot flank, then you're somewhat useless. That said my Ferdi can bounce a whole lot, depending on angle and a bit of luck, russian tanks with 175mm penetration guns, especially the mediums, may just as well give up if they can't flank. ~D
So I'd say it's worth to pursue, once I get the 128mm gun I should be a dangerous foe for the Tier 8 and 9 heavies as well.
Veho Nex
10-19-2011, 19:42
I just got my VK4502 Ausf A a couple days ago and am liking it so far. I wish it had better armor for the hull, because after coming from the Tiger P with its 200hull its a bit of a let down. Its 105 is great for watching those T7 and below run like little girls but T8 and above I bounce even when I hit them in the rear. Its got some good speed but not worth it imo. Id rather have a bruiser that can take a beating than a heavy that rolls like a medium.
scottishranger
10-19-2011, 22:10
Not much fun for the StuG III jockey...
I loved my stug but ya type 59's tear them apart. I just got my jagdpanzer and its additional armor still makes it fun to play with
I just spent nearly 900k on upgrades on my Type 59 yesterday.
I didn't get it with 100% crew, so I suspect that it affects my performance. Having read a few of the Type 59 threads on the official forums, I decided to go with the Rammer, the Stabilizer and Ventilation. Only the stabilizer cost 500k, but I was surprised the other stuff was around 200k.
Apparently having the oil as a consumable will increase your traverse significantly. But the tank has seriously issues with acceleration.
I got into a few brawls yesterday and I went all T54 on my enemy. The Stabilizer should help you hit the target while moving, but I apparently chose the wrong shells in my brawls (HE against a JagdPanzer, AP against a Löwe). I was hitting them several times but could not do weak-point shots as I needed the overview to maneuver. I would have gotten the Löwe if I hadn't been the last tank on my team. It was slow and I just ran circles around it. But I stopped to do a weak point shot (The Löwe had backed into a small hill depression and I drove up to get a shot from above) and apparently I was smoked by artillery.
I will get this right though... practice makes better, right? I have 54% win ratio and 71% hit ration on it. I just need to get my crew up to speed.
I decided to go with the Rammer, the Stabilizer and Ventilation.
Those are exactly the ones I want to install on mine as well but I have a rule for myself not to install any modules on a tank before the crew is at 100%, and currently they're at 99%...
Oh and I need a lot of money for my other tanks as well, 600k for a VK 36, 600k for a Slugger etc.
As renewable I have the remove speed governor one, but it has some risks, I mostly thought the engine damage was just money being lost but yesterday my engine turned orange due to it, hehe.
On the bright side my Ferdi is now equipped with the gun it was born to use. :2thumbsup:
Veho Nex
10-20-2011, 18:52
I have the Large caliber rammer for my VK4502A, all I need now is the vert stabilizer and the Ventilation for another 1.2m...
I made a Canadian Sherman a while ago:
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/62800-canadian-m4-sherman/
Ja'chyra
10-22-2011, 16:41
Why do people think the scouts job is to rush the other team, see all the starting positions and then die?
That's not much use
It is if the arty can hit or even kill some enemies.
Some scouts wait a while though and scout once things have loosened up a bit and arty is less well defended.
A few of them also survive for quite a while or make it back to their team alive.
Can't claim to be able to do this myself though and one has to keep in mind that being the first to spot an enemy gives an extra bonus.
Well as one who plays arty allot, you would be amazed at how many enemy SPGs do not move after being spotted. If the scout is able to find the enemy artillery pieces, you can take them out even if they don't show on the map anymore.
Also, if the scout is able to show its team what kind of play the enemy attempts, it is valuable. Which flank is prioritized? Are one flank open?
I bet... down the line, someone will attempt to write down tactics for each map and organize them under names. The scout could be able to detect which play is in motion.
The team is watching its advancing scout and as soon as the red dots are highlighted, they know the enemy's plan. "Hail Mary, they are doing Hail Mary".
If you notice a scout running through your camp, you call: "Audible, Audible!!! Our play has been compromised".
Argh why does every IS skin suck
Right, this is the second time that I'm trying to get into this game.
I never managed to install it successfully when I tried the open beta and I eventually deleted the client, and despite having been really keen about this I was unable to pick it up again until today.
Downloading now. If someone can give me a few 'tips for beginners', about how I can ascend the levels quickest or something like that they would be very very welcome.
Also I plan to play as artillery so specific tips would also be welcome.
I was going to flood you with tips but I've only temporarily dabbled in artillery.
I was going to flood you with tips but I've only temporarily dabbled in artillery.
Well until I earn enough cash to buy arty, I'll probably be driving some run down tank so your tips are welcome.
All right...how do I fire the mounted machine gun?
Edit:
How do convert the silver credits into gold credits?
All right...how do I fire the mounted machine gun?
Edit:
How do convert the silver credits into gold credits?
You can't fire the machine guns because there are no infantry to kill.
You buy gold with real money to purchase premium tanks or a premium account (50% extra XP and credits per match), and to buy extra slots, and a few other things.
I'm pretty sure I saw some tanks firing a gun at quite a fast rate.
I'm pretty sure I saw some tanks firing a gun at quite a fast rate.
Yes, but those were semi-automatic main guns, not hull or coaxial machine guns.
Its like the way a modern Bradley APC shoots.
I am not an expert in moving through the SPGs. But you could do what I did and get the Hummel, which IMO is a very good SPG.
For that you could either crunch through the small German SPGs or like I did, enter the German Medium line.
It is a bit different today than when I did it. The order would be:
Leichttractor -> PzKpfw II -> PzKpfw III Ausf A -> PzKpfw III -> PzKpfw III/V. from the Pz III/V you can move over to the SPGs and get the sweet Hummel tier 5 artillery piece. I have had much fun with it.
You could do the same in the Russian line, which would be the Heavy line. But you would have to grind that KV to 127k experience before getting the formidable S-51 with the 203mm howitzer.
MS-1 -> T26 -> T46 -> T28 -> KV -> S-51
Personally I think it wise for dedicated SPG players to have played (grinded) through mediums or Heavies. You get a unique perspective of the way commanders of those tanks think or behave.
E.g. If you are the last tank and there is a Heavy KV on the other team as the last tank. You can imagine with great accuracy how that tank will act and where it will be.
I have seen SPG commanders despair when a T-50 moves through the lines and gets near. What do they do? They try to run. You should not. They start cursing the team for not holding a water tight defense instead of attacking that lone light tank. It is agile but not agile enough. Usually it will turn to your left, and if you have a light footed Hummel, which is a very fast SPG, you can ram it and fire the 152mm right in its face.
AND.. This is very good advice. If you have encountered enemy lights in close proximity, always relocate. Don’t think you haven’t been spotted. I can no longer count those SPGs who have stayed in the exact spot after one of my team light tanks have been shot down at their doorstep. The red squares light up and I move fast over them to see where they are. Then when they go out, I shoot them one by one. You would think that a SPG would smell the dead cat, when their neighbor SPG suddenly is reduced to shrapnel.
OK, thanks.....looks like it's going to be a while before I can rain down hell on my opponents....
Another little query. Is there anyway to convert experience to free experience without buying gold? Like by using elite vehicles or something?
Another little query. Is there anyway to convert experience to free experience without buying gold? Like by using elite vehicles or something?
Sadly no...
Elite tanks are only good for training crew. As far as I know, they don't get any "extra" besides dedicating all experience to crew training. The Elite are of course fully upgraded tanks and as such good tanks to play with.
OK, thanks.....looks like it's going to be a while before I can rain down hell on my opponents....
Another little query. Is there anyway to convert experience to free experience without buying gold? Like by using elite vehicles or something?
The only way you get free experience without gold is the feature where 5% of the XP earned becomes free experience.
Right...I don't remember when was the last time I was so addicted to an MMO....played for hours straight yesterday. I got my tier three tank T-46...although I was having a lot more fun and winning a lot more easily with my MS-1....can't figure out why.
Anyway one thing I've noticed is that in 9 matches out of 10 everyone seems to be acting like John Rambo. They go off rushing with no semblance of order or strategy, and no one seems to be willing to take, or even give orders....It's very frustrating to see a team with good chances of winning get decimated suddenly because a few people kept camping at the rear or came too slow while the other rushed ahead trying to get the Top Gun. ~:(
Don't worry, it gets better in the higher tiers. You're playing with a bunch of noobs right now.
Now when I'm playing in my Tiger and then dip into the first few tiers because I want to start a new tree (like I did a while ago to get my Sherman), the difference in player skill is astonishing.
Yes, it's always great to see people give orders, like:
Superheavy: "Hey, medium, go scout while I hide in this bush!"
Medium: "Ok, ok, if you insist..." *dies in a rain of fire from hidden enemies*
Superheavy: "I only got one shot off and it missed, you there, Littleheavy, go scout while I hide in this bush further back because some stray shot bounced off my impenetrable front armour earlier!"
Littleheavy: "No, I'm not as dumb as medium, go scout yourself!"
Superheavy: "Come on, arty should be ready as well!"
Littleheavy: "Ok, that works for me get ready arty!" *drives off*
Arty: "Wait, I was just busy on the other flank and have a 2 minute reloading cy..."
Littleheavy: *gets detracked and shot at for 1.5 minutes while Superheavy watches, then dies*
Superheavy: *gets surrounded by a ton of previously hidden enemies and is all alone by now* "Fail team! noobs!"
:clown:
:laugh4:
All that requires is some images to go with it....I'll see if I can find some screens.
Anyway despite all the lack of support playing as arty has it's own charm. There's nothing as satisfying as bringing down a Hetzer that's murdering two light tanks by a well placed shot to it's rear.
And is there any sort of Org clan for this game?
No clan so far, to engage in Clan matches you need to have at least 15 people anyway, plus they need to have high tier tanks and most likely also pay for premium all the time etc.
And then you'd have to be on the same server cluster, which means people on the USA cluster would have to make a separate clan from those on the EU cluster as I understand it.
We can add eachother as friends and play as a platoon once in a while though if we're on the same server. There are also company battles where you join as teams of five but I'm not sure how exactly it works as I haven't tried it yet.
I joined the Total War Center clan. They never do anything, its just for the tag I guess. If someone created an Org clan I'd quit TWC and join that.
I'll think about it, but it costs 2500 Gold to create a clan, not sure it's worth it for 6 people to be honest. :shrug:
Would be nice if we had more interested people on the EU server.
I'll think about it, but it costs 2500 Gold to create a clan, not sure it's worth it for 6 people to be honest. :shrug:
Would be nice if we had more interested people on the EU server.
How can I find out what server am I connecting to?
Edit:
@Graphic, how do I join the TW clan?
And what nicks do you guys use?
Ask to join in this thread: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=434196
I am SigurdOrg (http://uc.worldoftanks.eu/uc/accounts/500269242-SigurdOrg/)on the EU server cluster.
Right... I am grinding my IS3 to a IS4 as we speak. I just realized that we should soon see the new Soviet techtree. I am not sure when that will happen, but I will be ready.
The IS4 will become a tier 10 tank in that update and I will get the new tier 9 heavy tank, Object 252. Also the heavy lines will split in two. That would mean I should get 3 new tanks with slots.
KV will be split to KV-1 and KV-2
KV3 will move up to tier 7 and T-150 will take its place.
IS4 will move up to tier 10 and Object 252 will take its place.
edit: and... I am home with the flu. :sneaky:
scottishranger
10-28-2011, 02:49
Just got 8 kills in one match with my Vk3601. Never played a better game in my life it seemed like i was just a one man army. This is why i love WOT. You can have terrible games but when you get lucky it feels really rewarding.
Now i just need 10k more experience for my goal since beginning playing the game... the mighty TIGER!
^ 8 is my record too, in the Panzer IV. I wish the game had a demo recording feature.
I played in a game yesterday where a GW Type-E did 11 kills.
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I played in a game yesterday where a GW Type-E did 11 kills.
That's what I want to be when I grow up. :laugh:
Anyway, I've been grinding my way up the USSR arty tree. I tried going 'via' the tanks path but I got bored (T26, T46 are both lousy...liked my MS1 better), and decided to go to arty straight away. Although the arty tree is rather unfair unbalanced, IMO....level 4 T28 needs just like 3000 xp, while level 4 Su 5 needs 14000 xp.........
But the question I wanted to ask was about crew effectiveness. After grinding for XP my Su 26 crew are all at 70 %. Now how effective will they be if I use them in Su 5 instead of training new crew from scratch?
But the question I wanted to ask was about crew effectiveness. After grinding for XP my Su 26 crew are all at 70 %. Now how effective will they be if I use them in Su 5 instead of training new crew from scratch?
Tank crew needs to be re-trained for a new tank, which means they can't go back to the old tank after being re-trained (stupid I know...)
And if you haven't reached 100% before retraining, they will be 50% on the new tank without spending money on them. This means, it is not worth it to retain crew which has not started a skill.
Take my IS3 crew. They were my original IS crew but had about 60% on their first skill (repairs) when I retrained them. I got 90% with 20 000 credits pr crew member and it didn't take long before they were back up on 100% and could continue their skill training. Their ranks increase with the skills and I know the Russian commander usually goes Lieutenant when he has reached 50% on his second skill (cammo or firefighting). Which my IS3 commander has... :)
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I think you actually don't go back to 50% upon retraining for free, it's more like they lose about 25%, as in once you get them above 75%, they usually won't go back to 50%.
If you invest money, they lose less of course but I usually don't mind training them up a bit so most of the time I do the free retraining.
Ja'chyra
11-06-2011, 11:29
Where to go after the M3 Lee, the M4 or the T1 heavy? What do you think?
Right I've been hooked to this game, surprisingly though, I don't feel guilty after having spend hours on it, as I felt with other MMOs I played.
Anyway I bought my first heavy, a KV today, and boy the play style is surprisingly different.
I mean playing as arty is fun, but unless you have a good team, you'll end up dying 9 times out of 10 quite quickly (specially if one is low tier), and even if one survives till the end, you can't do much but hide. Thus playing as a medium tank was better (also better than playing a light tank which I found too 'fiddley' and complicated). I felt more in control of the battle, although still very vulnerable.
But playing as a heavy seems to be an entirely different thing! For one I find myself at the top of the lineup more often than not, but also, the team almost rallies around heavies, and tries to move with them. That brings amazing cohesion......light fast moving targets are taken out by them, while I'm free to concentrate on the other heavies. The only threat is a skilled SPG player (a rare thing, I find, specially in lower tiers) or a TD.
Lots of fun.
scottishranger
11-07-2011, 01:15
Where to go after the M3 Lee, the M4 or the T1 heavy? What do you think?
T1's get eaten alive in high tier matches and i hear they have a pretty bad grind. Unless you wanna go heavy (I think the T29 is a great tank but I know its a long way to there) I would go the m4 route. sherman is suprisingly good.
the only threat is a skilled SPG player (a rare thing, I find, specially in lower tiers) or a TD.
Lots of fun.
Wait till you get in higher tier matches. Tier 6 mediums eat kv's for breakfast haha. Still kv is a good tank. I remember beiing so afraid of the Derp Gun in lower matches.
Hey guys, cool to see there are other people here that play this game, I doubt any of you guys will ever see me but my name's Akrotatos on WoT, if you do manage to see me, give me a holler or something.
Wait till you get in higher tier matches. Tier 6 mediums eat kv's for breakfast haha.
You jinxed my lucky streak man! :clown:
I've been getting matches with high tier tanks all day long....not a single one with me at the top.....And it's, so very dull! My stock cannon is absolutely useless...even against other KVs, my tank's slow, and not as well armoured as other heavies. It's getting very frustrating.
It gets a little better if you get the derp gun, that thing can take about 20% of the hitpoints from a KT with a frontal shot, from behind it's obviously even more deadly.
The 107mm is also really good, for tier 5 anyway.
In high tier matches you will be more like a gun platform, supporting others from behind, but a somewhat upgraded KV can be dangerous to many tanks, so hang in there.
I am starting to get a bit frustrated...
I have finally got my Elite IS3 and are currently saving up the 3.5mill I need to buy the IS4.
What frustrates me are the... crappy teams you have to play on.. In more games that I care to count, I have found myself the last or the second last tank in the game. Why is it so difficult to stay alive?
It is key to success to keep ducking those shells.
Alright the odd light tank going to spot tactics and artillery is, Ok but come on... I just finished a game where all my team was reduced to 2 in a few minutes.
It was me and a JagdTiger left and we had 2 kills each.. which was incidentally the only kills for our team... all the rest were smoking ruins...
The level of good team work is declining and my win/lose ratio is suffering. You seem to need to kill more than 4 to be able to win a game these days. Sometimes killing 6 doesn't even help.
I am not looking forward to taking the near stock IS4 out to play.
AND people need to stop bringing their loltractor friends to high tier games... :whip:
Ja'chyra
11-08-2011, 17:57
I am starting to get a bit frustrated...
I have finally got my Elite IS3 and are currently saving up the 3.5mill I need to buy the IS4.
What frustrates me are the... crappy teams you have to play on.. In more games that I care to count, I have found myself the last or the second last tank in the game. Why is it so difficult to stay alive?
It is key to success to keep ducking those shells.
Alright the odd light tank going to spot tactics and artillery is, Ok but come on... I just finished a game where all my team was reduced to 2 in a few minutes.
It was me and a JagdTiger left and we had 2 kills each.. which was incidentally the only kills for our team... all the rest were smoking ruins...
The level of good team work is declining and my win/lose ratio is suffering. You seem to need to kill more than 4 to be able to win a game these days. Sometimes killing 6 doesn't even help.
I am not looking forward to taking the near stock IS4 out to play.
AND people need to stop bringing their loltractor friends to high tier games... :whip:
What he said.
Just got my first Billote's medal with my KV.....Saved a T1 from being murdered by two mediums....Then realised a third one had sneaked up behind me, and he started finishing me up before I could turn. Caught on fire, lost quite a lot of stuff....then the T1 shot the medium and saved me. Lol. Things like this make the grinding worth it.
Veho Nex
11-08-2011, 23:25
Just got my first Billote's medal with my KV.....Saved a T1 from being murdered by two mediums....Then realised a third one had sneaked up behind me, and he started finishing me up before I could turn. Caught on fire, lost quite a lot of stuff....then the T1 shot the medium and saved me. Lol. Things like this make the grinding worth it.
Every player should have Medkit Repair Kit and Fire extinguisher on them at all times.
Say hello to my little friend...
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Every player should have Medkit Repair Kit and Fire extinguisher on them at all times.
Yeah I thought of buying some consumables but then I'm the saving type of guy.
BTW I like your sig. Was it you who had the one where a sprinter runs right into a woman on the track?
@ Sigurd
You're a premium player! I didn't know that. I thought everyone here played for free. How long have you been grinding for that IS4?
And does anyone have any tips about grinding in the KV? Because I'm planning to make a jump back to the arty segment from the KV, and I require a humungous 1,27,000 xp to do so I think (as opposed to just some 25,000 for KV3...very unfair).
@ Sigurd
You're a premium player! I didn't know that. I thought everyone here played for free. How long have you been grinding for that IS4?
Grinding for IS4? Since the release I guess.
But I was a no gold man until I finally got my IS3. Considering I am a married man with two daughters and a day job, I no longer had the patience for "sticking it to the man".
I know most of you are students with a tight budged etc... I am not and I have limited time to play.
First game with the IS4... yeah it is really tough.
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With the BL-9 and IS3 crew at 90% it was a good game. The ISU 152 thought it could finish me off with one or two shots... hehe not a chance bozo. Instead I took him out with two shots. Both his bounced.
The KV was a one shot kill and I battled the IS3 and took him down to 4% before some poacher took the kill from me.
Veho Nex
11-10-2011, 20:10
Yeah I thought of buying some consumables but then I'm the saving type of guy.
BTW I like your sig. Was it you who had the one where a sprinter runs right into a woman on the track?
Yup.
I am grinding again without a premium account and are entering the German Medium line.
I have been playing for a while in the VK3601 and its 88mm... then, just when I was a few xp short of 39k and the unlocking of the VK3002DB, I played a game with another VK3601 who got 9 kills with a konisch.
What? ...
I wanted to try it out...
Oh, man. What a different play style and very beneficial for your team. It has a incredible fast reload and targeting. It doesn't do much damage, but it totally disrupts your enemy's ability to shoot you.
As a defender of a base that gun is just amazing. A team mate spotted a SPG, and I barely saw it as it was on the other end of the map. I just auto aimed and took it out from what must have been way outside my view range. What accuracy!!!
The Konisch is meant to be used with Gold Ammo, that way it gets the penetration of the long 105mm (225mm pen) and more damage as well, I think it goes from 65 damage to 165 or so.
It's the only gun that does more damage with gold ammo, the downside of course is that every shot costs 5 gold, turns the VK3601 into a killing machine though.
The exact numbers are:
125mm to 209mm penetration and 49 - 81 damage with the normal AP shells.
169mm to 281mm penetration and 124 - 206 damage with the APC shells.
My experience is that they near always penetrate, but does relatively little damage, unless you are lucky and kill the ammo rack, which incidentally happens more often with that gun.
The gun is just marvelous as anti cap when it only takes a penetration to take a 80% cap value to 0%. And since it can fire so fast, you can fire shells at several targets before they realize what is happening.
I only look at average penetration because the chance to get the highest or lowest value is really small since the penetration is normal distributed around the average and it usually seems to be very close to the average anyway. Damage really seems more random to me, but do you use it with Gold ammo or normal ammo? I don't think it penetrates a KT from the front unless you hit the machine gun port.
To stop a cap it's also enough to hit the tracks I think.
I only look at average penetration because the chance to get the highest or lowest value is really small since the penetration is normal distributed around the average and it usually seems to be very close to the average anyway. Damage really seems more random to me, but do you use it with Gold ammo or normal ammo? I don't think it penetrates a KT from the front unless you hit the machine gun port.
To stop a cap it's also enough to hit the tracks I think.
I don't use gold ammo, but that konisch can definitely penetrate a E-75 if you target the lower glacis. On tanks like Tiger and IS, you can auto target and still penetrate. I haven't been up against a Ferdi yet.
I have switched to the Type as I need to rake in a million to buy the VK3002DB
scottishranger
11-15-2011, 04:01
Ah so jealous that you use gold ammo on the konish. I used it for a while till I got my 88. I just couldn't deal with it's low damage. I feel like I have been grinding forever with my vk to get the tiger. Only need 100k more moneyz so i should have it by the end of the week. It'll be my first heavy tank! Can't wait to use her in action
Ah so jealous that you use gold ammo on the konish. I used it for a while till I got my 88. I just couldn't deal with it's low damage. I feel like I have been grinding forever with my vk to get the tiger. Only need 100k more moneyz so i should have it by the end of the week. It'll be my first heavy tank! Can't wait to use her in action
For the record... I don't use gold ammo on the konisch. But it does penetrate better than any of my other guns (well maybe not the BL-9), but it does near no damage. But a penetration is all you need if you sit back a while. It is great for harassment and taking out smaller tanks from great distances.
I had a game yesterday with my Type 59... I was one of three tanks left and I was capturing the enemy base. A E-75 with 3% rolled into view and was engaging me. I thought... This will be easy pie. I am at 86% and will only need one shot to take him out. He was quite agile and my shots to his flank bounced as he was just quick enough to deflect them. I was not successful shooting out his tracks. I thought.. well I'll just pin him down by going straight into his front. I pinned him against a building and he bounced a few shots on my 200mm sloped turret. But all my shots did nothing. I aimed as low as I could and heard at least 3 "dings" which to my understanding is a penetration or critical damage. But no % less on the tank. At the end he finally blew me out right before a GW panther came to my rescue and took him out with one shot.
I was like... [bad word], I can't kill a E-75 from the front?
I probably should have changed to HE shells as they do more damage.. but 3x lucky. That random function sucks.
And then there is the issue with 1%. I can't count the times where I have either with a BIG gun taken a small tank from 100% down to 1% or a half crippled tank from some obscure percentage down to 1%. It seems they get a lucky throw to see if I really blew them to smithereens.
I think you got that wrong, Sigurd, a "ding" is a bounce, so no penetration. The E-75 has a very well protected front, with 160mm on the upper glacis and (more than?) 120mm on the lower I think, but it's also sloped more than that of a King Tiger and doesn't seem to have any weak spots like a machine gun port (maybe a viewport but I usually don't get to study them for long :sweatdrop: ). Forget about the turret as well, that's 250mm or something.
Your gun has an average penetration of 175mm so yes, you have no chance to penetrate. HE may have actually killed him with 1 or 2 shots, it doesn't penetrate but it does a little damage anyway, which is better than bouncing with AP in this case.
The real atrocity here is not that you cannot penetrate the front of a heavy that is one tier higher, it's that the heavy with his beautiful tier 10 gun bounced on your puny little medium tank. ~;)
I think you got that wrong, Sigurd, a "ding" is a bounce, so no penetration. The E-75 has a very well protected front, with 160mm on the upper glacis and (more than?) 120mm on the lower I think, but it's also sloped more than that of a King Tiger and doesn't seem to have any weak spots like a machine gun port (maybe a viewport but I usually don't get to study them for long :sweatdrop: ). Forget about the turret as well, that's 250mm or something.
Your gun has an average penetration of 175mm so yes, you have no chance to penetrate. HE may have actually killed him with 1 or 2 shots, it doesn't penetrate but it does a little damage anyway, which is better than bouncing with AP in this case.
I checked the WoT forum and called it a "ding" because that seems to be the common phrase there. We, the germanic people, would rather call it a "ring" as an old ring door bell sound from when I was a kid. This should indicate critical damage done on the enemy tank. Sometimes the "ring" will take 50% off enemy tank HP and sometimes nothing. I can't find a rational answer to that other than there is some luck dice being rolled.
Or that I penetrate, but damage already damaged modules. Setting the engine or radio back to red from yellow/orange, killing the driver etc... nothing that actually damages health points.
And 160mm hull should be penetrated by a 175mm penetration average if angled correctly or if I shoot directly into the point of the V form where upper and lower glacis meet from point blank. I even saw the holes I made. I felt as if someone had "decided" that a Type 59 shall simply not kill a E-75 in a frontal brawl.
The real atrocity here is not that you cannot penetrate the front of a heavy that is one tier higher, it's that the heavy with his beautiful tier 10 gun bounced on your puny little medium tank. ~;)
Well.. My whole tank was under his barrel... In a real life situation, He should not be able to fire a single shot into my tank. :sneaky:
Finally bought a KV3. Lost spectacularly in the first match despite being at the top tier, when I waded in amongst enemies, and realised too late that no one was backing me up. Killed two low tier mediums and an arty, after which went down in an eye blink when atleast five other shot me together.
The stock gun's pretty useless. I remember suing it with T28 when fully upgraded but it seemed OK then. But now after using 122mm with KV it feels very dull.
Anyway I still got to play KV, since I want to jump back into arty. 127320 XP needed. I'll probably be at it for a very long time. :sad:
Finally bought a KV3. Lost spectacularly in the first match despite being at the top tier, when I waded in amongst enemies, and realised too late that no one was backing me up. Killed two low tier mediums and an arty, after which went down in an eye blink when atleast five other shot me together.
The stock gun's pretty useless. I remember suing it with T28 when fully upgraded but it seemed OK then. But now after using 122mm with KV it feels very dull.
Anyway I still got to play KV, since I want to jump back into arty. 127320 XP needed. I'll probably be at it for a very long time. :sad:
Heh,
Good luck... I just crunched through 168 000 xp or so to get the IS4.. and I need 24 000 to get the suspension and similar to get the upgrade turret and then 63 000 to get the S70 130mm tier X gun.
And with a normal account that means I need to play the Type 59 every other game to pay for the expenses.
So, I kinda went back to the German Medium line... and have promptly sold my VK36 and exchanged it with a VK3002DB.
I didn't train the VK36 crew for the first run as I was able to put them into the VK3002 even though their experience percent was red. I just had to try it out.
Their experience was 96% from the VK36 and I was a little worried that they wouldn't be able to perform well. I won that game and I didn't experience any lack of skill in the crew. I guess you can use untrained crew on a tank, but they will not get new experience on it.
This tank is kinda... I have all guns researched, but can't use the best because I need to get a new turret... which incidentally is 5000 kg heavier than the one currently on it, which means I need new suspension too. arghh which means I need to grind about 25k xp with the PzIV gun.
This tank is kinda... I have all guns researched, but can't use the best because I need to get a new turret... which incidentally is 5000 kg heavier than the one currently on it, which means I need new suspension too.
I think that is the case with a lot of german tanks.
arghh which means I need to grind about 25k xp with the PzIV gun.
It's not like the short 88mm is much better than the PzIV gun.
It has less penetration, does a lot more damage but also comes with a significantly lower rate of fire. Better if you like to hide of course but out in the open the 75mm may actually do more damage per minute with a higher penetration, so... :shrug:
I just found out that I'm using the USA client so I'm probably connecting to US servers. (Which is probably why I could find Sigurd when I searched for him)
Anyway which of you guys connect to US servers? I found Beskar in a game the other day but no one else.
scottishranger
11-17-2011, 12:33
I dooo! Scottishranger ingame
I'm on the EU server, since it's in Germany, I get a pretty good ping. :2thumbsup:
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