Random-ice-cream-flavoured friends of the friends [Concluded]

[Jarema]

A little sorry for spamming here, but I can found a lot of dead players that way...
I still search for at least 6 players fof my mafia game at other forum:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?595727-Savanna-Mafia

I would be grateful if you join it (I think it has really nice setup and I want to host it)

[El Barto]

Super tally:
Seon: Ishmael; LazyMcCrow
johnhughthom: Makrell
Makrell: choxorn; Riedquat
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
BSmith1068: Elite Ferret

[Askthepizzaguy]

And not even a single townie could be arsed to vote for the scumbag Ishmael. Not even the guy whose butt I pulled out of the FIRE YESTERDAY

[BSmith]

vote: Ishmael. :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

johnhughthom: Makrell
Makrell: choxorn; Riedquat

And what are these people doing?

Don't you think Makrell if he were scum would be going "well, let's see if Pizza was right today. Vote Ishmael"

Why is Makrell voting for johnhughthom?

Think about it.

What scumbag goes, well Pizza just KILLED HIMSELF so that I could live, I'm gonna just ignore him, and vote for the guy that Chaotix, voted all game long.

Because THAT could possibly generate some interest.

WHAT THE :daisy:????

This is not the master plan of the master scumbag.

Makrell is innocent, I just don't know what in the blue hell he's DOING.

And choxorn and Riedquat, now that Darth Feather is dead, you two are the only sane townies left.

You're voting for the guy with no discernible plan of winning the game whatsoever.

Makrell is attracting votes because he makes no sense. Not because he's scum.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And not even a single townie could be arsed to vote for the scumbag Ishmael. Not even the guy whose butt I pulled out of the FIRE YESTERDAY

If you think he is scum then ..

Vote: Ishmael

[Darth Feather]

If you think he is scum then ..

Vote: Ishmael

FoS: Ibn-Khaldun: this post seems scummy to me.

[Riedquat]

WHAT THE :daisy:????

This is not the master plan of the master scumbag.

Makrell is innocent, I just don't know what in the blue hell he's DOING.

And choxorn and Riedquat, now that Darth Feather is dead, you two are the only sane townies left.

You're voting for the guy with no discernible plan of winning the game whatsoever.

Makrell is attracting votes because he makes no sense. Not because he's scum.


:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Nobody knows what he is playing at, that is sure...

And thanks for drawing a more visible fluorescent target in my back, I wasn't paranoid enough! :rolleyes: If I unvote makrell it will be to vote Bsmith or Seon, no Ishmael, makrell is scum or really uncooperative townie, don't know for sure, lets see.

[Chaotix]

Yeah, come on guys.

Makrell is clearly innocent.

There is nothing fishy about him at all.

Now, johnhughscum, on the other hand...

[Askthepizzaguy]

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Nobody knows what he is playing at, that is sure...

And thanks for drawing a more visible fluorescent target in my back, I wasn't paranoid enough! :rolleyes: If I unvote makrell it will be to vote Bsmith or Seon, no Ishmael, makrell is scum or really uncooperative townie, don't know for sure, lets see.

Do I have to refer you (folks) to my case on why BSmith is townie? Again?

There's no way he forgets who he murdered. And if it were an act, he would have pushed that fact as his defense. He didn't even mention it.

Seon, I never crossed him off my suspect list.

So fine, kill him. But you're wasting time. Ishmael will murder everyone who would consider voting for him and leave folks like LazyMcCrow alive. And then Lazy's gonna wonder why he made it to the endgame again in a vanilla game.

[Double A]

I don't feel comfortable voting for Ishmael after he actually made a case against someone. I still don't get the replacements = scum mentality. I still want to give him one more day, regardless. Maybe he'll catch a scum. Warman brought up a good point, too, Seon is lurking, and it seems like he's usually more talky. vote: Seon


Yeah, come on guys.

Makrell is clearly innocent.

There is nothing fishy about him at all.

Now, johnhughscum, on the other hand...

Because that's totally going to work.

[Choxorn]

If only because I think Ishmael is a better lynch than anyone else besides Makrell...

Unvote, Vote: Ishmael

[johnhughthom]

Do I have to refer you (folks) to my case on why BSmith is townie? Again?

There's no way he forgets who he murdered. And if it were an act, he would have pushed that fact as his defense. He didn't even mention it.

Seon, I never crossed him off my suspect list.

So fine, kill him. But you're wasting time. Ishmael will murder everyone who would consider voting for him and leave folks like LazyMcCrow alive. And then Lazy's gonna wonder why he made it to the endgame again in a vanilla game.

I think you underestimate BSmith.

[Double A]

Actually, considering what he's done in IOT, unvote, vote: BSmith.

[El Barto]

Newer, superer tally:

Seon: Ishmael; LazyMcCrow;
johnhughthom: Makrell
Makrell: Riedquat
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
BSmith1068: Elite Ferret; Double A
Ishmael: BSmith; Ibn-Khaldun; Choxorn

[Ishmael]

Well if the town wants to turn it into a two-horse race, then so be it.

unvote, vote: BSmith

I will happily switch back to either Seon or JHT if they get some more votes. Pizza has convinced me to move Makrell out of my top 3, but Elite Ferret's reasoning has moved BSmith up to the number three spot in replacement. I'm increasingly certain Elite Ferret and I-K are town (the former for being very townie, and the latter for being too scummy), with my opinion on Lazy McCrow being town unchanged. Other than those three I wouldn't rule anybody out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't feel comfortable voting for Ishmael after he actually made a case against someone.

Because scumbags never want to look like reasonable townies that are contributing?

The only possible way Ishmael survives this game is if he looks like a model townie. He has to be the last one standing now.


I still don't get the replacements = scum mentality.

It's not that.

It's that Caius was scum before he was replaced. Being replaced didn't make Caius scum.


I still want to give him one more day, regardless. Maybe he'll catch a scum.

As long as he swings before the final round.


Seon is lurking, and it seems like he's usually more talky.

Seon has never once been a talky player. Ever.

This is his exact level of participation every game.

Now, Seon is on my not cleared list so it's fine if he hangs. Just as long as Ishmael hangs.

[Choxorn]

I'll grant that BSmith is one of the craftiest scums I've ever played with, but pretending to forget a kill isn't the kind of thing he does when he's scum.

[LazyMcCrow]

Well if the town wants to turn it into a two-horse race, then so be it.

unvote, vote: BSmith

I will happily switch back to either Seon or JHT if they get some more votes. Pizza has convinced me to move Makrell out of my top 3, but Elite Ferret's reasoning has moved BSmith up to the number three spot in replacement. I'm increasingly certain Elite Ferret and I-K are town (the former for being very townie, and the latter for being too scummy), with my opinion on Lazy McCrow being town unchanged. Other than those three I wouldn't rule anybody out.

Sorry Ishmael. I'm not sure about the vote switch. 'Town wanting to turn it into a two horse race'? nah. I'm not convinced you're scum, but I'm not seeing a better candidate now. If you hadn't switched to 'survival mode' so quickly, (with an added splash of vague assertion) I'd be taking Pizzas' read on it with a pinch of salt, but I guess that dead townie pizza is the best kind of pizza for this situation, and I'm willing to go with it. unvote, vote: Ishmael

[Ishmael]

Sorry Ishmael. I'm not sure about the vote switch. 'Town wanting to turn it into a two horse race'? nah. I'm not convinced you're scum, but I'm not seeing a better candidate now. If you hadn't switched to 'survival mode' so quickly, (with an added splash of vague assertion) I'd be taking Pizzas' read on it with a pinch of salt, but I guess that dead townie pizza is the best kind of pizza for this situation, and I'm willing to go with it. unvote, vote: Ishmael

As it has been pointed out already, a townie's survival is in the town's best interests. The momentum is/was definitely heading towards two main candidates, and I wanted to make my position on the matter clear, rather than leaving a vote-switch to the last moment (which is pretty much the scummiest thing you can do in mafia and will get you lynched next round anyway: see above as to why that is bad).

On the plus side you didn't use the words 'flinching' or 'defensive,' which would likely have triggered a full-on rant.

[Askthepizzaguy]

At the very least, you can cross off Ishmael as being scum, which you'd always have to consider as being possible. If it comes down to an endgame with him and someone else, who was less suspect and played a good game, odds are pretty good we'd let the scum slip away.

Ishmael is one of those I'd have to cross off my list before I could continue. Way ahead of the pack.

Seon is acting perfectly like himself, which doesn't mean all that much. He and jht both have a kind of playstyle which is completely unreadable. That being said, I don't buy jht as scum.

Double A is creeping up my list.


Actually, considering what he's done in IOT, unvote, vote: BSmith.

This makes no sense.

Suppose Ishmael were innocent. If that's the case, Double A would seem to be pressing for BSmith over Ishmael, who the scums know I want dead before endgame. Leaving Ishmael alive frustrates my efforts, and keeps our attention off of other candidates, like himself, for example. BSmith is also one of those folks who should be murdered, because lynching him makes little sense. Yet AA is pushing it.

I never cleared Double A in my analysis, and at this point, he's creeping past Seon in terms of scumminess.

I'd look at him after replacement scumbag swings. Still a distant second to Caiushmael though.

[Ishmael]

At the very least, you can cross off Ishmael as being scum, which you'd always have to consider as being possible. If it comes down to an endgame with him and someone else, who was less suspect and played a good game, odds are pretty good we'd let the scum slip away.

Ishmael is one of those I'd have to cross off my list before I could continue. Way ahead of the pack.


And my own reasoning from the previous day comes back to bite me. I honestly don't have much to counter it with. It's a welcome downgrade from "he's definitely scum, no doubts about it," though.

The thing about your Ishmael and a scumbag in the final round scenario is that whether I were to be lynched now, in the final round or somewhere in between, you'd still have an equal number of 'real' chances at the last mafioso. It's just a case of what day you want to waste your lynch.

[BSmith]

I think you underestimate BSmith.


Actually, considering what he's done in IOT, unvote, vote: BSmith.


I'll grant that BSmith is one of the craftiest scums I've ever played with…

I’m flattered by the praise, but Choxorn is correct:


…but pretending to forget a kill isn't the kind of thing he does when he's scum.

And for once Pizza has read me correctly. I am much more cautious when I am scum and wouldn’t have seen the possibility in voting for edse working out this way. I simply didn’t realize he was dead because he was voting in the phase. (and let’s admit – Pizza and edse himself also didn’t realize he was dead at the time…)

I know that I have only really been active when my you-know-what is on the line, but look across all games I am playing now and you’ll see a similar pattern.

[Riedquat]

I'll grant that BSmith is one of the craftiest scums I've ever played with, but pretending to forget a kill isn't the kind of thing he does when he's scum.

I played at least in two games being mafia were one of my partners wanted to kill an already killed target... I'm not saying BSmith pretended to forget, I'm saying it is possible he really forgot edse was dead.


Ishmael, I think the post Lazy quoted convinced me better of your scumminess than all the wall of posts Atpm has made against you...

[Darth Feather]

And for once Pizza has read me correctly. I am much more cautious when I am scum and wouldn’t have seen the possibility in voting for edse working out this way. I simply didn’t realize he was dead because he was voting in the phase. (and let’s admit – Pizza and edse himself also didn’t realize he was dead at the time…)

I know that I have only really been active when my you-know-what is on the line, but look across all games I am playing now and you’ll see a similar pattern.

So.... if you turn out to be scum in this game, you are scum in every other game you are in? Nice to know. Now I really want to see what your alignment is.




I know I am reading way to much in this, but it is just to give me a reason to vote you in some other game. :)

[Double A]

Because scumbags never want to look like reasonable townies that are contributing?

The only possible way Ishmael survives this game is if he looks like a model townie. He has to be the last one standing now.

Oh, of course. He's (presumably, if you're right) the only scum left, so he's got nothing to lose because he can't be pressured into voting for a partner.


Seon has never once been a talky player. Ever.

This is his exact level of participation every game.

Now, Seon is on my not cleared list so it's fine if he hangs. Just as long as Ishmael hangs.

I guess I was thinking of someone else.


This makes no sense.

Suppose Ishmael were innocent. If that's the case, Double A would seem to be pressing for BSmith over Ishmael, who the scums know I want dead before endgame. Leaving Ishmael alive frustrates my efforts, and keeps our attention off of other candidates, like himself, for example. BSmith is also one of those folks who should be murdered, because lynching him makes little sense. Yet AA is pushing it.

I never cleared Double A in my analysis, and at this point, he's creeping past Seon in terms of scumminess.

I'd look at him after replacement scumbag swings. Still a distant second to Caiushmael though.

I should've explained. In one of the largest IOTs ever, he successfully plotted with one player to basically take over the whole world, and everyone else got penalized for striking first after we caught on. Hell, we only guessed, we didn't really know what they were doing until the game was over.

I still completely fail to see your Caius case, other than he lurked.

[B-Wing]

What is this "IOT" you people speak of?

[johnhughthom]

I believe they are talking about these games (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=446), never played, so unsure what they are.

[Darth Feather]

What is this "IOT" you people speak of?

I was going to ask exactly the same.

Sorry, x-posted with jht

[BSmith]

So.... if you turn out to be scum in this game, you are scum in every other game you are in? Nice to know. Now I really want to see what your alignment is.

I know I am reading way to much in this, but it is just to give me a reason to vote you in some other game. :)

If you take this as a given, then you’ll have to assume I am town in every other game as well when I turn up blue. 9099


I believe they are talking about these games (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=446), never played, so unsure what they are.

Yup. Here is a brief synopsys:


Imperium Offtopicum is often defined as "an empire-building game" that spawned from the Altered Maps threads. It has had many, many variations, but generally speaking: you create or take over a nation of your choice, you expand a little at a time, you can engage in war and diplomacy and conquer the world, and the overall goal is fun.

Similar games are also played here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69). Don’t ask me why the two aren’t merged.

The specific game that Double A is referring to is Iron and Blood (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=417289).

[Darth Feather]

If you take this as a given, then you’ll have to assume I am town in every other game as well when I turn up blue. 9099



I guess that is right as well :laugh4:
ninja edit typo

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree that BSmith is a brilliant genius. A crafty, cunning SOB.

That is all a given. And yeah, its within the realm of imagination that he could pull a stunt so well that he fools me.

I just don't think that happened here, which makes the folks voting for him, silly bananas.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I still completely fail to see your Caius case, other than he lurked.

You cannot build a case on someone who isn't there. I never claimed to have a case on Caius.

My point is that I had no case on B_Ray or Chaotix either, and they still got my votes.

This game is not going to be won by cases. You can build cases on anyone.

The only cases I've made that were any good were the ones where I pointed out how townie someone was.

[El Barto]

Update coming, hang in there babies!

[El Barto]

DAY EIGHTThe good townsfolk and burghers of the village decided to lynch Ishmael.
johnhughthom: Makrell (1)
Makrell: Riedquat (1)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom (1)
BSmith1068: Elite Ferret; Double A; Ishmael (3)
Ishmael: BSmith; Ibn-Khaldun; Choxorn; LazyMcCrow (4)

Not voting: Seon (1)
He was town.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Seon
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.

Time remaining: .

[Ishmael]

Is anybody really shocked at that?

Anyway, lynch Seon or JHT tomorrow.

[Chaotix]

Wow, check that out. Ever since you guys lynched me, you've struck nothing but townies.

I think I might be your bad luck charm.

Happy hunting!

[Askthepizzaguy]

BAH!

You enjoyed watching me fail, didn't you Chatoix.

Hope it was entertaining.

Back to the hunt, still plenty of time remaining.

Right now, Double A or Seon look most suspect. I'd go with Double A but I'm done pushing hard for lynches, since I'm firing blanks.

[Darth Feather]

You forgot about Makrell. He might not seem to have a victory plan, but I think he is trying to keep out of sight and claim victory that way.

FoS: Makrell
NocturnoNecrovote: Makrell

[johnhughthom]

Mmmm, burghers.

[El Barto]

NIGHT EIGHT
There were no kills tonight.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Seon
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.

It is now Day Nine, which will last for 60 hours.
Time remaining: .

[Major Robert Dump]

WE WON

[B-Wing]

FoS: Major Robert Dump

[Choxorn]

Vote: Makrell

He's seriously way too scummy to still be alive.

[Riedquat]

Vote: Makrell

He's seriously way too scummy to still be alive.

Heehh... I don't know if scummy is the word, or erratic... like the lack of a kill... again?...what is going on? :dizzy2:

I second that vote, vote: Makrell

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Elite Ferret

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Makrell

I voted for you before and I guess I should have done it last turn as well.

[Ferret]

vote:BSmith

[Makrell]

2 points in my defense

1. i was online this night, and wouldve killed someone

2. i am not that much of a planner that i dont kill anyone just for fun.

[Double A]

vote: BSmith

Same deal as yesterday.

[Darth Feather]

vote: BSmith

Same deal as yesterday.

Would BSmith miss a night phase? It seems not very in his character (or am I wrong?)

[Double A]

I'm not ignoring any possibilities at this point, though I will admit it seems rather silly. Still, it's better than voting for Makrell.

[johnhughthom]

60 hour days...

Thanks for the reminder of why I stopped playing these things. Wasn't there a rule that such urine extracting phase lengths weren't allowed, or is it just wishful thinking?

Unvote; Vote: jht

[BSmith]

Would BSmith miss a night phase? It seems not very in his character (or am I wrong?)

You are not wrong. I will certainly miss a vote every now and again due to RL, but I almost never miss a night action. Especially a kill.

vote: Double A

[LazyMcCrow]

Vote Seon. I'm not sure. I'd get behind a jht lynch if anyone experienced made a decent case, but I don't know him well enough. He seems pretty crazy?. I'm Still a bit rattled by all that name changing, but don't know jht well enough to know if he's crazy enough to do that as scum. Ishmael - why did these pair rattle your cage?

[Riedquat]

Would BSmith miss a night phase? It seems not very in his character (or am I wrong?)

Two night phases, not only one.

[Double A]

Two night phases, not only one.

Yeah, that's true. I'm being a bit too paranoid. unvote

[Choxorn]

2 points in my defense

1. i was online this night, and wouldve killed someone

2. i am not that much of a planner that i dont kill anyone just for fun.


Yeah, you're going to have to do better than that if you want to convince us that we shouldn't kill you.

[Makrell]

Yeah, you're going to have to do better than that if you want to convince us that we shouldn't kill you.

probably
but im not invested enough in this game unfortunately. i think i might be a god lynch as any

[Chaotix]

You all know what to do.

Lynch johnhughscum.

You'll be sorry if you don't.

[johnhughthom]

Double post.

[johnhughthom]

The player formerly known as johnhughscum has already been lynched.

Unvote; Vote: Elite Ferret

No kill last night and we haven't heard from him so far today. Conclusive.

[Ferret]

Might want to re-read the last page.

[johnhughthom]

Might want to re-read the last page.

Might want to recalibrate your "Is that a serious case?" machine.

Also:

I changed my name once this game, from townhughthom, to jht, you know, the name most people use to refer to me. johnhughscum was not me!

Not aimed at any specific player.


Vote Seon. I'm not sure. I'd get behind a jht lynch if anyone experienced made a decent case, but I don't know him well enough. He seems pretty crazy?. I'm Still a bit rattled by all that name changing, but don't know jht well enough to know if he's crazy enough to do that as scum. Ishmael - why did these pair rattle your cage?

:brood:

Is that a question or a statement?

[Chaotix]

He's lying.

His true secret identity is none other than johnhughscum, the scummiest of scums.

[Ishmael]

Vote Seon. I'm not sure. I'd get behind a jht lynch if anyone experienced made a decent case, but I don't know him well enough. He seems pretty crazy?. I'm Still a bit rattled by all that name changing, but don't know jht well enough to know if he's crazy enough to do that as scum. Ishmael - why did these pair rattle your cage?

Just a hunch. JHT would have taken the lead this round, except for the whole WIFOM around the lack of a kill, so now I'm not so sure. Even if you don't want to lynch them just on that (which is understandable), they're the sort of players I'd keep an eye on, and keep the possibility of them being scum in mind.

[El Barto]

This would be our tally then:

Makrell: Choxorn; Riedquat; Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
Bsmith: Elite Ferret;
Double A: BSmith
Seon: LazyMcCrow


60 hour days...
An exceptional situation caused by midterms. Note that I am lengthening the phase on my other game as well.

Also, important GM's note: from now on, idiotic name changes result in a WoG in this game. I take enough time off important things to GM a game, gimme a break.

[B-Wing]

Almost 24 hours without any votes. Does town surrender? :yes:

[Double A]

Bleh.

vote: Seon Still better than Makrell

[Makrell]

vote: Seon

[Choxorn]

Seon is not better than Makrell.

[Ferret]

Well if he's not better than that must mean we should lynch him.

Unvote; vote:Seon

[Askthepizzaguy]

Almost 24 hours without any votes. Does town surrender? :yes:

I stopped posting so that's probably it. Folks need direction, even if it is from a blithering fool.

Just kill folks in alphabetical order!

[Chaotix]

I stopped posting so that's probably it. Folks need direction, even if it is from a blithering fool.

Just kill folks in alphabetical order!

An excellent idea.

All of my scum buddies are near the end of the alphabet, so it will ensure our victory.

[Darth Feather]

I would be talking a bit more, but I am dead and both seon and Makrell are exellent lynches in my opinion.

So town is acting like I would have wanted, so no reason to try to talk them into other ideas.

[LazyMcCrow]

Seon is not better than Makrell.

Why exactly?

[Diana Abnoba]

I don't know, but missing a few night actions sounds more like a Double A move to me. :yes::laugh4:

[Darth Feather]

Why exactly?

Because Makrell is scum. But I admit Seon is the close second on my scum-list. Double A is the next. If none of them are scum, I give up.

[johnhughthom]

I don't know, but missing a few night actions sounds more like a Double A move to me. :yes::laugh4:

In terms of strategy, or incompetence? :laugh4:

[Ferret]

Seon's activity has been more sporadic than Makrell's, so of the two I'd say he is more likely to have missed kills.

There was also this post:


That murder has pizza or me written all over it.

I am not mafia.

vote: Pizza

[Double A]

I don't know, but missing a few night actions sounds more like a Double A move to me. :yes::laugh4:


In terms of strategy, or incompetence? :laugh4:

You guys have it wrong, Blood Dragon comes out tomorrow.

[El Barto]

Tally with ¾ f an hour left:

Makrell: Choxorn; Riedquat; Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret: jht
BSmith: Elite Ferret
Double A: BSmith
Seon: LazyMcCrow; Double A; Makrell; Elite FerretEveryone's voted!

[Makrell]

I threw a wish in the dice,
Don't ask me, I'll never tell
I looked to me as it fell,
And now im in my way

I'd trade my soul for a kill,
Pennies and dimes for a kill
I wasn't looking for kill,
But now you're in my lynch

Your vote was holdin',
Ripped avatar, skin was showin'
Hot night, wind was blowin'
Where you think you're going, baby?

Hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

It's hard to look right,
At you baby,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

Hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

And all the other boys,
Try to chase me,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

You took your time with the call,
I took no time with the fall
You gave me nothing at all,
But still, you're in my way

I beg, and borrow and steal
Have foresight and it's real
I didn't know I would feel it,
But it's in my way

Your stare was holdin',
Ripped jeans, skin was showin'
Hot night, wind was blowin'
Where you think you're going, baby?

Hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/call-me-maybe-lyrics-carly-rae-jepsen.html ]
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

It's hard to look right,
At you baby,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

Hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

And all the other boys,
Try to chase me,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

Before you came into my life
I missed you so bad
I missed you so bad
I missed you so, so bad

Before you came into my life
I missed you so bad
And you should know that
I missed you so, so bad

It's hard to look right,
At you baby,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

Hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

And all the other boys,
Try to chase me,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?

Before you came into my life
I missed you so bad
I missed you so bad
I missed you so, so bad

Before you came into my life
I missed you so bad
And you should know that

So lynch me, maybe?

[Darth Feather]

So lynch me, maybe?

Everybody do it: He asks for it :laugh:

[El Barto]

DAY EIGHTSeon was lynched in a rather long day, with perfect voter turnout. but this was the cruelest of democracies…
Makrell: Choxorn; Riedquat; Ibn-Khaldun (3)
Elite Ferret: jht (1)
BSmith: Elite Ferret (1)
Double A: BSmith (1)
Seon: LazyMcCrow; Double A; Makrell; Elite Ferret (4)
He was town.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon; town, lynched Day Nine.

It is now Night Nine. We are back to the usual schedule for the time being.
Time remaining: .

[Darth Feather]

So, next lynch is Makrell, he lived far too long.

[Riedquat]

Tally with ¾ f an hour left:

Makrell: Choxorn; Riedquat; Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret: jht
BSmith: Elite Ferret
Double A: BSmith
Seon: LazyMcCrow; Double A; Makrell; Elite Ferret

Everyone's voted!

Ok, it's late but... but...where is Seon's vote?

[johnhughthom]

He didn't vote.

You shouldn't take everything El Takewer posts at face value.

[Choxorn]

Now can we lynch Makrell? Please?

[Ferret]

Absolutely, I only wish I had been online in between him making that aberration of a post and the round ending.

[B-Wing]

Note to town: I know who role-blocked me last night, and you're going to pay for it.

[Makrell]

ach, i am town, but i realise i am of a hindrance.
lynch me and be done with it


(im not joker)

[El Barto]

Ok, it's late but... but...where is Seon's vote?
He didn't vote, I forgot to delete EF's first vote, but everyone alive has voted.

[Major Robert Dump]

You guys should probably focus on lynching scum now

[El Barto]

NIGHT NINE
There were no kills tonight.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon, town, lynched Day Nine.

It is now Day Ten, which will last for 48 hours.
Time remaining: .

[Choxorn]

Vote: Makrell

He should not still be alive.

[LazyMcCrow]

So lynch me, maybe?

O.K. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJZbhbB_X8)

vote: Makrell

[Ishmael]

Despite my blithely confident assertions to the contrary, I-K has to be back on the radar after two nights without a kill. That said, if this is all a cunning plan by the mafia then if the town doesn't lynch scum today, it's technically paid off.

[Ferret]

I really don't think Makrell is scum, but I can't not vote for him after what he did.

Vote:Makrell

[Riedquat]

Well, this is unexpected... mafia not killing in 3 nights... :inquisitive:

Lets finish this, vote: Makrell

[Makrell]

well, even though i might die, im not mafia, but im not constructive townie either, which is bad, you still should keep up discussion though, for towns sake

[Darth Feather]

I can see three reasons why there are no nightkills last two nights.

1) There is some roleblocker who has blocked the last maffiosi two nights in a row (to be sure). That would mean someone will reveal soon.
2) There is some bad:daisy: protector who predicted the mafia-targets.
3) The mafia is lazy, has no time due to real life or is trying to confuse the hell out of this town.

[B-Wing]

4) We're saving up to do three kills at once in this upcoming night. It's a perfectly valid strategy.

[Darth Feather]

4) We're saving up to do three kills at once in this upcoming night. It's a perfectly valid strategy.

Wait, We both are dead, right? That means I can vote you: Necrovote: B_Ray

DIE, dead scum.

[Chaotix]

Antinecrovote: B_Ray

B_Ray now has a necrovote total of 0.

Also, johnhughscum remains at large. The game is not over. Coincidence? I think not.

[Makrell]

choxorn

for beating a fat cow

[Makrell]

Vote: Choxorn

for beating a fat and slow cow without horns

[Askthepizzaguy]

Makrell, you make me cry.

I died so you could live. I'm like Jesus over here. And you're like half of my loaves and fishes miracle.

You're the loaf.

And now I'm turning water into whine.

Ooh this is getting me hungry. Now I shall turn Chaotix into a delicious Doritos Locos Taco from Taco Bell. And B_Ray can be the low quality cheese that I pick off and feed to the dog.

[Ferret]

Don't you dare mention that ferret recipe again :clown:

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Elite Ferret

[BSmith]

I can see three reasons why there are no nightkills last two nights.

1) There is some roleblocker who has blocked the last maffiosi two nights in a row (to be sure). That would mean someone will reveal soon.
2) There is some bad:daisy: protector who predicted the mafia-targets.
3) The mafia is lazy, has no time due to real life or is trying to confuse the hell out of this town.

The most likely, and therefore most probable is #3.

vote: Double A.

He’s chaotic neutral enough to not give a crap about this game, even if he is the last remaining scum. That and he has disappeared or not posted orders in previous games because he was “busy” playing other games. He would also be the kind that would not kill just for the lulz, and not for any real strategy for winning the game.

I-K would be another person to focus on. I don’t have as much (really any) experience with him in other games though, so I can’t tell if this is normal behavior or something different. Either way he has not been around that much.

[Double A]

I can see three reasons why there are no nightkills last two nights.

1) There is some roleblocker who has blocked the last maffiosi two nights in a row (to be sure). That would mean someone will reveal soon.
2) There is some bad:daisy: protector who predicted the mafia-targets.
3) The mafia is lazy, has no time due to real life or is trying to confuse the hell out of this town.

Has anyone gotten a message saying they were protected at any point? That would be the only way to confirm there's a protector, unless he wants to come out (which I would heavily advise against).

[Diana Abnoba]

I agree with BSmith. Double A has to go, then Ibn-Khaldun is next on my scum list, then johnhughthom (or townhughthom or jft or whatever he is calling himself lately) is 3rd on my list.

[johnhughthom]

I agree with BSmith. Double A has to go, then Ibn-Khaldun is next on my scum list, then johnhughthom (or townhughthom or jft or whatever he is calling himself lately) is 3rd on my list.

john****ingthom?

[Diana Abnoba]

Sorry jht (hit the wrong key) :shame: :embarassed:.

[Choxorn]

You should change your name to "johnf'ingthom"

[Askthepizzaguy]

john F. hughthom

Only the F is captialized. Very presidential.

[Choxorn]

Now he just needs a K, so he can be john F. hughthom K (JFHK)

[Darth Feather]

From beyond the grave, here is a tally

4 Makrell: Choxorn, LazyMcCrow, EF, riedquat
1 Elite Ferret: jht
1 DoubleA: BSmith
1 Choxorn: Makrell


No vote: DoubleA, Ibn-Khaldun


Check if I am right, please.

[LazyMcCrow]

I'm not sure I'm feeling the Makrell lynch anymore, but I just don't understand why he posted the way he did yesterday, so I'll keep my vote where it is. In puzzlement as to the erratic nature of the remaining scum/s - whether role-blocking or indeed - just plain laziness is the reason for it, I cannot perceive - I certainly can't fathom why an active scum would refrain from killing.

[Double A]

The most likely, and therefore most probable is #3.

vote: Double A.

He’s chaotic neutral enough to not give a crap about this game, even if he is the last remaining scum. That and he has disappeared or not posted orders in previous games because he was “busy” playing other games. He would also be the kind that would not kill just for the lulz, and not for any real strategy for winning the game.

I-K would be another person to focus on. I don’t have as much (really any) experience with him in other games though, so I can’t tell if this is normal behavior or something different. Either way he has not been around that much.

Me miss three kills? That's just crazy. After Pirate Ship 2, there is no way I'd forget to send kill orders, especially not three times. Plus my dead scumrades would've done something by the second time. Chaotix and B_Ray have been more active than several townies. I haven't a clue why there haven't been three kills, but I doubt it's scum negligence. I guess it's a doctor, because if it was a roleblocker, we'd have heard something by now.

[Makrell]

a bit ate to misunderstand i guess.

my behavior last day was no mafia behaviour, mafias ooze along, which i didnt do. I guess you found this yesterday and post now just to give yorself some townie cred.
unvote: vote: Lazymccrow

[Riedquat]

a bit ate to misunderstand i guess.

my behavior last day was no mafia behaviour, mafias ooze along, which i didnt do. I guess you found this yesterday and post now just to give yorself some townie cred.
unvote: vote: Lazymccrow

What about the rest of the game? O.o

[Makrell]

What about the rest of the game? O.o

semantics
i will flip town, cause, this is what i do

[Askthepizzaguy]

Me miss three kills? That's just crazy. After Pirate Ship 2, there is no way I'd forget to send kill orders, especially not three times. Plus my dead scumrades would've done something by the second time. Chaotix and B_Ray have been more active than several townies. I haven't a clue why there haven't been three kills, but I doubt it's scum negligence. I guess it's a doctor, because if it was a roleblocker, we'd have heard something by now.

Oh bull.

Pirate Ship wasn't the first time you went AWOL on a game with an important scum role.

You've got the attention span of a kitten with a piece of string.

Someone is either framing you, or you're trying to make it look like someone is framing you. This is you to a T... or a pair of A's, perhaps.

[El Barto]

Tally tally tally.

Makrell: Choxorn; LazyMcCrow; Elite Ferret; Riedquat
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
Double A: BSmith
LazyMcCrow: Makrell

Ibn-Khaldun and Double A not voting.
Makrell in a clear lead.

Now I shall turn Chaotix into a delicious Doritos Locos Taco from Taco Bell. And B_Ray can be the low quality cheese that I pick off and feed to the dog.NO PLAYER COOKING ALLOWED.


Did someone post about balls of string?

[B-Wing]

Taco Bell without cheese? That's like Taco Bell without beer: not as tasty, but easier on the stomach.

[Double A]

Oh bull.

Pirate Ship wasn't the first time you went AWOL on a game with an important scum role.

You've got the attention span of a kitten with a piece of string.

Someone is either framing you, or you're trying to make it look like someone is framing you. This is you to a T... or a pair of A's, perhaps.

Yeah, but Pirate Ship was the first time I felt like a dick afterwards because it wasn't the start of the game (or I wasn't out of town).

If someone's framing me, they're doing a good job, but it would have been better to just kill some guys. I know enough by now to not frame myself because that draws unwanted attention - and again, better to just shoot someone.

[El Barto]

Day Ten
Makrell was lynched. The protested that his fishiness was an essential part of his being, well, a mackerel, but it didn't really bite.

Makrell: Choxorn; LazyMcCrow; Elite Ferret; Riedquat (4)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom (1)
Double A: BSmith (1)
LazyMcCrow: Makrell (1)

Not voting: Ibn-Khaldun; Double A (2)


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon, town, lynched Day Nine.
Makrell, town, lynched Day Ten.

It is now Night Ten, which will last for 60 hours.
Time remaining: .

[Darth Feather]

Makrell is not scum????

Over to my final suspect: FoS: DoubleA. If he is town, Ibn-Khaldun must be scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

well, so far the folks I called as town flipped town.

[Darth Feather]

well, so far the folks I called as town flipped town.

But those you called scum flipped town as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But those you called scum flipped town as well.

Quiet, you! I called you as town and you called me scum. Who was more right?

[Makrell]

oh, how could this be.
mister town is town

gasp

[Darth Feather]

vote: Askthepizzaguy

Is he guilty? Probably not.

Does he deserve to be lynched? In my eyes: yes.

I didn't really call you scum. And later I unvoted, because actually only scum deserves to be lynched.

[Double A]

Quiet, you! I called you as town and you called me scum. Who was more right?

I called you town and you flipped Pizzaguy.

[Riedquat]

oh, how could this be.
mister town is town

gasp

Mister town acted hyper scummy all game long, jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon with no reason whatsoever... I'm really pissed at you not being scum, you really acted like one, thank you mr townie :stare:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mister town acted hyper scummy all game long, jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon with no reason whatsoever... I'm really pissed at you not being scum, you really acted like one, thank you mr townie :stare:

Your lies lack subtlety! You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThatMakesMeFeelAngry)


Reversing my position on Riedquat being a townie.... now.

Thank you mr scumbag.

[johnhughthom]

Announcement:

I am apathetic.

[El Barto]

You missed a space there, jht.

[johnhughthom]

I wondered who would go for the obvious, you were one of the top two contenders.

[El Barto]

Only one of them?

[El Barto]

NIGHT TEN
Elite Ferret was killed.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon, town, lynched Day Nine.
Makrell, town, lynched Day Ten.
Elite Ferret, town, killed Night Ten.

It is now Day Eleven, which will last for 48 hours.
Time remaining: .

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: Ibn-Khladun

[johnhughthom]

Votail: Double A

[Ibn-Khaldun]

vote: Ibn-Khladun


You are sooo wrong..

Anyway.. Vote: choxorn

[johnhughthom]

Indeed, that spelling of your name was atrocious.

[Darth Feather]

You are sooo wrong..

Anyway.. Vote: choxorn

Why Choxorn? FoS: Ibn-Khaldun due to his mysterious re-apperance together with the night kill.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

[Makrell]

Vote: johnhugsscum

[Double A]

You are sooo wrong..

Anyway.. Vote: choxorn

Wait, why choxorn? I thought he was supposedly a perfect townie. Of course, I am currently a bit biased against anything Pizza might say.

[Darth Feather]

Vote: johnhugsscum

You can't vote, you are dead.

[Choxorn]

Vote: Ibn Khaldun

Oh my god, he sucks.

[B-Wing]

You can't vote, you are dead.

Hypocrite!

[Darth Feather]

Hypocrite!

No, I am only in denial. :sneaky:

[El Barto]

A somewhat squallid player vote tally I have here:
Ibn-Khaldun: LazyMcCrow; Choxorn
Double A: jht
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun
C'mon, more discussion! Everyone pitch in!

[Chaotix]

Ok.

Vote: johnhughscum

[Riedquat]

Ok.

Vote: johnhughscum

How curious, from all the living you keep your campaign against jht, I'm starting to wonder why... after all he didn't vote for you, it was the other way around, wasn't it? O.o

Vote: Ibn Khaldum

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay.

So, here's the deal. Scum usually do one of three strategies in this situation.

They need to survive an inordinate amount of lynches.

A) Attract attention to their partner and jokingly suggest they are scum

Example: Chaotix voting for JHT and accusing him all game.

Obvious Purpose: Reverse psychology. JHT is Chaotix' partner and we think hey, he'd never do that.
Problem: It doesn't work. Eventually the itch gets too itchy and we lynch him.

Real purpose: Reverse reverse psychology. JHT is not Chaotix' partner and at first, we think hey, he'd never do that.
But then we get itchy, and we scratch. They never murder JHT and they hope that he eats a late-game lynch. Flips townie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

B) Defensive play

While alive, avoid voting for their partner, and don't say anything accusingly. Suggest reasons why we don't lynch them.

Example: B_Ray and Chaotix.

Chaotix hanged because his defense of B_Ray was so suspect.

This doesn't really apply here. But Defending a living townie is reverse psychology and it attracts attention to them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

C) Avoid discussing altogether. Point at others directly or indirectly. Frame inactive players or players who might not be consistent with sending orders.

Example: Double A and Ibn-Khaldun are obvious suspects when we consider the missing kills. But this looks like a deliberate frame job.

Who the scumbags want to frame are Double A and Ibn-Khaldun. They only need a couple more mislynches.

Who the scumbags want to put the irresistible itch on, is johnhughthom. Eventually we need to scratch that, we think.

But in reality....


Who gets most credit for bussing a partner?

The person who puts the vote near a tie on their partner, or the person who ties it up?

continued.....

[Askthepizzaguy]

Current tally:
Diana Abnoba: Askthepizzaguy (1)
Askthepizzaguy: Lazy McCrow (1)
Chaotix: Visorslash; Darth Feather; Choxorn; Riedquat (4)
Makrell: Montmorency (1)
Majro Robert Dump: Jarema (1)
Jarema: Diana Abnoba; Major Robert Dump; johnhughthom; rickinator9 (4)
johnhughthom: Chaotix (1)
Darth Feather: Seon (1)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun (1)

abstain: Double A
We have a tie. So, tiebreaker round until I get home tomorrow.

Time remaining: none. .

Visor was townie. Feather was townie.

That leaves Choxorn and Riedquat.

Choxorn pushed Chaotix toward death, but Riedquat tied it up.

The scum are pointing at Double A, Ibn, and johnhughthom.

But in reality, Riedquat or choxorn is their final partner, methinks.

Riedquat in particular.

The scum don't want any attention on him. He's been cruising since we've put him in the town camp. But it's very clear- he should have been murdered by now.

And, he's keeping choxorn alive.

Why?

One thinks the other is townie. The other knows neither of them will get heat as long as both are alive.

They are voting as a bloc.

Riedquat can't be voted as long as nobody thinks he's scum and he keeps choxorn alive.

He and choxorn should have been murdered by now. Nobody really thinks they're scum.

The reason these two "obvious" townies are left alive to vote as a bloc is because one of them is scum.

That much is true. They don't suspect each other and nobody really suspects them. They often will vote together. A solo mafia cannot hope to defeat them without the use of murder.

One of them should have been murdered by now.

The one who is scum is Reidquat, for pushing Chaotix into a tie situation. That's the spot on the bussing wagon which is always the least suspected of being the busser.

Choxorn would be lynched before Riedquat would be.

Riedquat is your final scumbag. Says the guy who has, admittedly, struck out twice.

Do as you will. Think it over.

Double A and Ibn and JHT are the jangly keys that are distracting you from the guy who is too townie to be alive right now. But scums know who their partners are, they almost always bus to look good, and they want to leave alive people who are disinclined to vote for them, and folks who are obvious targets.

Double A and Ibn and JHT are the obvious targets.

Choxorn is the obvious townie who is disinclined to vote for Riedquat.

The murders, lack thereof, and play by scum all game since Chaotix was on the ropes has been leading to this moment: They are playing for mislynches, since straight up murder would have eventually led to Riedquat.

They had to play a headgame. They're messing with your head. Proof, is we're chasing folks who are unlikely to be mafia, but look like they're mafia because of the missing kills, or the fact that Chaotix has been relentlessly talking about JHT all game.

Those are the itches we are meant to scratch. Meanwhile nobody will look at Riedquat, who tied the vote on Chaotix to look good, and if he was townie, should have been murdered by now.

He's still alive and that's wrong.

[Askthepizzaguy]

TL;DR?

Reidquat was third on the wagon today. Check and mate.

[Darth Feather]

But if they would have killed three times instead of waiting, the situation would look a lot more apealing to them.

I am particularly intrigued from the sudden return of Ibn-Khaldun, together with the return of the night-kill.
The mafia wouldn't have known I-K would return today, would they?

[Askthepizzaguy]

But if they would have killed three times instead of waiting, the situation would look a lot more apealing to them.

I am particularly intrigued from the sudden return of Ibn-Khaldun, together with the return of the night-kill.
The mafia wouldn't have known I-K would return today, would they?

It's a decent enough point. I am hoping, for the sake of entertainment value, that the solution isn't that simple.

[Choxorn]

Yeah, I don't get what the point is in skipping kills just to frame two inactives.

[Chaotix]

The point, my dear Choxorn, was to...

Wait, what was the point again?

Oh, right. There was no point. Somebody just forgot to send them in.

But who could it be? It seems pretty obvious to me...

johnhughscum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah, I don't get what the point is in skipping kills just to frame two inactives.

Plus john.

The game would seem to be practically over in two mislynches.

The point would be to win the entire game.


Living

BSmith <----murder
Double A <---- mislynch
LazyMcCrow <-----murder
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun <-----mislynch
townhughthom


This brings us to lynch or lose, where tempting target townhughthom is still alive, and you finally break down and have to scratch that itch.

You don't lynch choxorn or Riedquat in the meantime because the missing kills could be Double A not caring or Ibn being inactive.

And then, john is still alive. You suggest Chaotix has been bluffing this whole time, or, you suggest that someone bussed Chaotix.

That someone is either choxorn or Reidquat.

Which one is it, choxorn? Did you bus your partner, or did Reidquat bus his partner?

[Chaotix]

Plus john.

The game would seem to be practically over in two mislynches.

The point would be to win the entire game.




This brings us to lynch or lose, where tempting target townhughthom is still alive, and you finally break down and have to scratch that itch.

You don't lynch choxorn or Riedquat in the meantime because the missing kills could be Double A not caring or Ibn being inactive.

And then, john is still alive. You suggest Chaotix has been bluffing this whole time, or, you suggest that someone bussed Chaotix.

That someone is either choxorn or Reidquat.

Which one is it, choxorn? Did you bus your partner, or did Reidquat bus his partner?

Shh... don't tell him, Choxorn.

We're supposed to keep that part a secret. remember? :wink:

[Darth Feather]

Or.....


Living

BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Riedquat
choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun <-----Correct lynch
townhughthom

Town victory

Suppose riedquat is scum and has refrained from killing last night.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to just kill (for example lazy, Choxorn and BSmith.)

THen he would be against a (rather) inactive I_K (scummy), DoubleA (with no info about his alignment), Johnhughthom (unreadable)

Who would they vote for: The townielooking riedquat, or one of the other three? If he had done that, the game would most likely be over today.
But by not killing, he risks to be lynched regardless.

[Darth Feather]

Shh... don't tell him, Choxorn.

We're supposed to keep that part a secret. remember? :wink:

Stop doing that, it is CoNFuSinG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But by not killing, he risks to be lynched regardless.

Doubtful. Nobody has really ever put pressure on Reidquat this game.

Not killing directs our attentions to Double A and Ibn. Killing might reduce the # of townies, but doesn't direct our attention any specific place.

[Makrell]

i agree with pizza

when he goes like this hes either right or mafia

[Riedquat]

TL;DR?

Reidquat was third on the wagon today. Check and mate.

On a dude who come from nowhere and voted Choxorn! I'm guilty of being third in the wagon! :yes:


Yeah, I don't get what the point is in skipping kills just to frame two inactives.

Is part of my master plan! yeah... :shrug:


The point, my dear Choxorn, was to...

Wait, what was the point again?

Oh, right. There was no point. Somebody just forgot to send them in.

But who could it be? It seems pretty obvious to me...

johnhughscum.

Yes, keep enjoying yourself, same thing you told me when I was in your position a couple of games ago!

So I was bussing Chaotix in day 2/3 when he kind of defended B_Ray because he didn't like that kind of wagons and voted EF? Also when I tied him up with Visor?

This is confusing, by your reasoning I must suspect of Choxorn now, and that makes no sense!

[Darth Feather]

when he goes like this hes either right or mafia

Strange, I seem to recall he had a large case on Visor which was wrong: so he was neither right nor mafia.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

But if they would have killed three times instead of waiting, the situation would look a lot more apealing to them.

I am particularly intrigued from the sudden return of Ibn-Khaldun, together with the return of the night-kill.
The mafia wouldn't have known I-K would return today, would they?

I have never been "away" and thus I cannot "suddenly return". The day and night phases are too long and they start messing with you minds! I am telling you, Choxorn is mafia!

[LazyMcCrow]

unvote, vote: Choxorn.

[BSmith]

vote: choxorn

[Chaotix]

No, wait.

I didn't mean that bit about Choxorn having any secrets.

My scum partner is really johnhughscum. You should lynch him instead.

[El Barto]

Tally, with people still not voting:
Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat
Double A: jht
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrowGet your votes in before I close!

[BSmith]

You missed my vote...

[johnhughthom]

Unvote; Votail: I-K

[Double A]

I wouldn't put it past Choxy to do something as complicated as this if he thought it would work, but it seems to me like he would have been more focused on Trimafia than this. vote: Ibn

[El Barto]

Current tally:


Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat; johnhughthom; Double A
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrow; BSmith

Everyone's voted! Anyone can change the result at any moment! Almost as fun as pork pie sandwiches with ketchup.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Current tally:


Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat; johnhughthom; Double A
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrow; BSmith

Everyone's voted! Anyone can change the result at any moment! Almost as fun as pork pie sandwiches with ketchup.

I'd like to change the result.

Lynch Riedquat instead.

[Darth Feather]

Who changes the result is most likely scum. Try it, someone, please (chaotix?)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Never mind..

Unvote; Vote: Ibn-Khaldun

[Darth Feather]

Do you want to write down a confession?

:deal:

[johnhughthom]

Unvote

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Do you want to write down a confession?

:deal:

Soo...


My confession,

I am a townie. I apologize for that.

I-K

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, duh.

How about you vote for someone other than yourself, though?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Unvote; Vote: Choxorn

Although it doesn't change much..

[Darth Feather]

Unvote; Vote: Choxorn

Although it doesn't change much..

Actually it does, due to jht's unvote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, one townie gets lynched instead of another townie. Big whoop.

[Choxorn]

You guys don't seriously think I'd not kill to frame inactives, do you? That's so completely not my style. Maybe to screw with a roleblocker or a doctor or some other power role I knew existed, but not to make it look like the mafia was inactive. And even if I was screwing with power role results, I wouldn't miss three kills in a row. Ever. I have no reason to believe there are any non-vanilla roles in this game. I guess I can't blame some of you for not knowing my style, I don't think I've been mafia in a single game I've played here, but the CFC'ers? Come on guys, you know me better than that. This isn't what I do as mafia.

I'd consider changing to Riedquat, but right now I'm more concerned with not dying, so my vote will stand on Ibn Khaldun.

[El Barto]

And with this tally:
Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat; Double A
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrow; BSmith

Not voting. jhtWe have a tie which would mean an extension!

[Ishmael]

You guys don't seriously think I'd not kill to frame inactives, do you? That's so completely not my style. Maybe to screw with a roleblocker or a doctor or some other power role I knew existed, but not to make it look like the mafia was inactive. And even if I was screwing with power role results, I wouldn't miss three kills in a row. Ever. I have no reason to believe there are any non-vanilla roles in this game. I guess I can't blame some of you for not knowing my style, I don't think I've been mafia in a single game I've played here, but the CFC'ers? Come on guys, you know me better than that. This isn't what I do as mafia.

I'd consider changing to Riedquat, but right now I'm more concerned with not dying, so my vote will stand on Ibn Khaldun.

He's defending himself - lynch him!

Seriously though, whoever they turn out to be the last scum has done an excellent job of confusing me since I joined this game. Well done.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys don't seriously think I'd not kill to frame inactives, do you? That's so completely not my style. Maybe to screw with a roleblocker or a doctor or some other power role I knew existed, but not to make it look like the mafia was inactive. And even if I was screwing with power role results, I wouldn't miss three kills in a row. Ever. I have no reason to believe there are any non-vanilla roles in this game. I guess I can't blame some of you for not knowing my style, I don't think I've been mafia in a single game I've played here, but the CFC'ers? Come on guys, you know me better than that. This isn't what I do as mafia.

I'd consider changing to Riedquat, but right now I'm more concerned with not dying, so my vote will stand on Ibn Khaldun.

I think Chaotix would ask his teammate to do so.

This is classic Chaotix-being-weird.

I don't think it's you, though.

[johnhughthom]

I don't feel like voting for either of these guys, the vote on I-K was only a test to see what would happen if I tied it up.

[Chaotix]

Since when has Chaotix ever been weird?

Ruthless? Yes.

Unpredictable? Sure.

Downright insane? On occasion.

But weird? That, I don't think I've done.

Yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't feel like voting for either of these guys, the vote on I-K was only a test to see what would happen if I tied it up.

What choice would you make if we weren't locked on the wrong targets?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Since when has Chaotix ever been weird?'

Ruthless? Yes.

Unpredictable? Sure.

Downright insane? On occasion.

But weird? That, I don't think I've done.

Yet.

Oh, you're pretty weird, man.

[johnhughthom]

Weirdness is in the eye of the beholder.

[Chaotix]

I don't feel like voting for either of these guys, the vote on I-K was only a test to see what would happen if I tied it up.

Typical scum cop-out by scumhughscum.

Truly, scumscumscum, you have hit a new low in scumdom.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Weirdness is in the eye of the beholder.

AHHHHHH GET IT OUT!!!

[johnhughthom]

Well, you are generally the beholden, rather than the beholder. As for the other thing, AA or Riedquat.

[Double A]

Not being weird is weirder than being weird.

[El Barto]

AHHHHHH GET IT OUT!!!
What? Get the eye out? I am always ready for such emergency surgery, lemme get my spoon and corkscrew.

[BSmith]

Screw it. unvote; vote reidquat

[Askthepizzaguy]

Screw it. unvote; vote reidquat

Nice.

[El Barto]

*gasp* Last-minute vote changes!
Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat; Double A
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrow;
Riedquat: BSmith

Not voting. jhtA quarter of an hour remaining!

[El Barto]

Day Eleven
Ibn-Khaldun was lynched, and he came to regret his once asking for his own head.

Ibn-Khaldun: Choxorn; Riedquat; Double A (3)
Choxorn: Ibn-Khaldun; LazyMcCrow (2)
Riedquat: BSmith (1)

Not voting: jht (1)


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Riedquat
choxorn
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon, town, lynched Day Nine.
Makrell, town, lynched Day Ten.
Elite Ferret, town, killed Night Ten.
Ibn-Khaldun, town, lynched Day Eleven.


It is now Night Eleven, which will last for 24 hours.
Time remaining: .

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, there you go. Payoff for not murdering.

Any bets they claim Double A did it tomorrow?

[Diana Abnoba]

Coming down to the wire guys. Need to lynch Riedquat and choxorn in that order IMHO.

[Double A]

Well, there you go. Payoff for not murdering.

Any bets they claim Double A did it tomorrow?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDPjorVTUQ

[Riedquat]

:wall::stare: I can't believe this... I don't follow, if I am not mafia Choxorn is? because we are to much townies to coexist? :dizzy2: Well I don't think Choxorn is mafia, and I'm pretty sure I'm not, and the merits about not killing, bleh... I can accept advice from a dead partner while mafia but I'm not the kind of guy who follows blindly an idiotic plan that includes not killing three nights just to frame one guy. :no:

[LazyMcCrow]

You're pretty sure you're not mafia. I'm certain Choxorn is.

[Darth Feather]

I give up

Pizza, you win, whoever you say is scum, is scum. :surrender2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

:wall::stare: I can't believe this... I don't follow, if I am not mafia Choxorn is? because we are to much townies to coexist? :dizzy2: Well I don't think Choxorn is mafia, and I'm pretty sure I'm not, and the merits about not killing, bleh... I can accept advice from a dead partner while mafia but I'm not the kind of guy who follows blindly an idiotic plan that includes not killing three nights just to frame one guy. :no:

Listen mister Riedquat, if anyone besides Ibn or Double A are mafia, that means they were following an "idiotic" plan which is presently winning the game.

Your panicked denial makes me happy.

Ibn wasn't mafia. So, you want to bet it was Double A who is mafia and that he just didn't care to do his job? He's that lazy?

Remember, everyone else has been active. That means it was either Double A, or someone is following an "idiotic" plan which is presently winning the game.

What's your theory?

If it was Double A, and he's just not giving a **** about the game, I think you'll find folks voting him off round one for a while.

Instead of apathy or incompetence, I'm betting this is by design.

And I feel you're the designer.

[Chaotix]

Pfft.

You think this was the plan?

He just forgot! :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Best part?

If there's one scum remaining, we could hit both Double A and Reidquat, or both choxorn and Reidquat, or both Kumquat and Reidquat.

I think we should do Reidquat first, and Double A last. And if he loses on the final round for being the too-obvious culprit for being too lazy to play the game...

Ugh. Double A, I don't want to put you in that mental box where I go, that guy is a terrible, terrible mafia player. Please have it not be you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pfft.

You think this was the plan?

He just forgot! :laugh4:

If that's the case, one of you or B_Ray should have been able to send in orders for him.

YOU wouldn't just "forget".

Therefore, YOU did it by design. Which points away from those tempting little targets you've been dangling in front of us.

[Double A]

Ugh. Double A, I don't want to put you in that mental box where I go, that guy is a terrible, terrible mafia player. Please have it not be you.

I would be able to answer that if it made sense.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I would be able to answer that if it made sense.

If this is yet another game where you just didn't do your job as mafia, I'm putting you in the Lord Winter camp.

(He was the guy who got wogged 10 times. I "celebrated" his tenth in sarcastic fashion.)

I don't want to think of you as incapable of playing this game, dude. We've had some good times. I don't want to think of you as being that bad.

Capice?

[Choxorn]

That makes sense, but I'm not sure about Riedquat.

If it turns out to be john, I'll be seriously annoyed with myself and all of us for letting Chaotix get away telling everyone who his partner was for the entire game, and if it's BSmith, he's either forgetful or the only mafia I've ever seen pretend to forget who was dead to make himself look town and not use it in his defense, in which case well freakin played.

If it's Lazy, then I'll just be confused.

[johnhughthom]

You're pretty sure you're not mafia. I'm certain Choxorn is.

I hate this post. With a passion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That makes sense, but I'm not sure about Riedquat.

If it turns out to be john, I'll be seriously annoyed with myself and all of us for letting Chaotix get away telling everyone who his partner was for the entire game, and if it's BSmith, he's either forgetful or the only mafia I've ever seen pretend to forget who was dead to make himself look town and not use it in his defense, in which case well freakin played.

If it's Lazy, then I'll just be confused.

I won't be annoyed. It takes serious balls to point at your partner all game knowing that, nine times out of ten, we would scratch that itch.

If we had three rounds left, I might. But, it's bold. I can lose to bold.

I don't want to lose to this misdirection onto Double A and Ibn. I don't want to lose to the obvious itchy John strategy. Point until we scratch it.

I also don't want to lose to a Double A who doesn't care. So I'd lynch him last.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hate this post. With a passion.

Yeah. I don't know where Lazy's head is at this game. I still can't figure him for scum, though.

[johnhughthom]

I would be able to answer that if it made sense.

It's quite easy to understand, he doesn't mean terrible, like the Carolina Panthers. He means terrible, like Hitler. Simply, if you are scum, you are scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's quite easy to understand, he doesn't mean terrible, like the Carolina Panthers. He means terrible, like Hitler. Simply, if you are scum, you are scum.

I wouldn't go that far.

I'm saying terrible like the Detroit Lions of 2008. Not dictatorial or genocidal. In fact, you'd be bad here due to a lack of killing, which is in fact, the opposite reason.

[johnhughthom]

Bloody hell, that's worse than calling someone Hitler...

I'm not even American and I know how bad that is.

Pizza, I are disappoint, you crossed a line.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Forgetting to murder, repeatedly, when you're a scumbag is worse than showing up and attempting to play football and failing at the attempt.

[johnhughthom]

I have decided.

My next target for remorseless votage without reading any debate shall be BSmith. I shall vote him every round until he or I die.

[B-Wing]

...he doesn't mean terrible, like the Carolina Panthers.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! RIGHT NOW!

[El Barto]

Night Eleven
LazyMcCrow was killed.


Living
BSmith
Double A
Riedquat
choxorn
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.
Ishmael, town, lynched Day Eight.
Seon, town, lynched Day Nine.
Makrell, town, lynched Day Ten.
Elite Ferret, town, killed Night Ten.
Ibn-Khaldun, town, lynched Day Eleven.
LazyMcCrow, town, killed Night Eleven.


It is now Day Twelve, which will last for 48 hours.
Time remaining: .

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay called Lazy as townie.

Reidquat?

[Double A]

If this is yet another game where you just didn't do your job as mafia, I'm putting you in the Lord Winter camp.

(He was the guy who got wogged 10 times. I "celebrated" his tenth in sarcastic fashion.)

I don't want to think of you as incapable of playing this game, dude. We've had some good times. I don't want to think of you as being that bad.

Capice?

It's fairly obvious that I've been active, based on me posting almost every day after I got back from Arizona.

I'm also not getting wogged ever again by accident.


It's quite easy to understand, he doesn't mean terrible, like the Carolina Panthers. He means terrible, like Hitler. Simply, if you are scum, you are scum.

Oh, so he WAS referring to me.


Bloody hell, that's worse than calling someone Hitler...

I'm not even American and I know how bad that is.

Pizza, I are disappoint, you crossed a line.

I'm American and I don't know how bad that is.

[BSmith]

I now want to go back and re-read all of lazys posts. See if it all makes more sense.

Anyway, vote: riedquat

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Riedquat

[BSmith]

Lazy: do you have a strong opinion here? You seemed fairly certain of choxorn recently. Would you rather us Lynch him first?

[johnhughthom]

Lazy didn't make any sense as a live townie, why do you suddenly think he'll make sense as a dead townie?

[BSmith]

I have my reasons. My vote is still on riedquat but I am interested in what he says.

[Riedquat]

Listen mister Riedquat, if anyone besides Ibn or Double A are mafia, that means they were following an "idiotic" plan which is presently winning the game.

Good for them, to me keeps being an idiotic plan, more considering it in context, you needed to convince me of not killing 3 nights at the start of the game, no sorry, if I'm mafia I want to kill.


Your panicked denial makes me happy.

Denial yes, panicked? no, its just my way...:shrug:


Ibn wasn't mafia. So, you want to bet it was Double A who is mafia and that he just didn't care to do his job? He's that lazy?

Remember, everyone else has been active. That means it was either Double A, or someone is following an "idiotic" plan which is presently winning the game.

Point a single time when I mentioned Double A being a suspect of mine, this is your theory not mine, I played to few times with Double A to know he gives a rat's tail about the games he is in, I don't know how he play.


What's your theory?

Don't have one!


If it was Double A, and he's just not giving a **** about the game, I think you'll find folks voting him off round one for a while.

Instead of apathy or incompetence, I'm betting this is by design.

And I feel you're the designer.

Thanks? I'm idiotic genious creating idiotic plans to frame someone I don't know based in his playstyle that also is unbeknown to me... :dizzy2:

[johnhughthom]

You may not have played a lot of games with Double A, but I know you have read many a game played here, Mr Riedquat. I doubt you are unfamiliar with his playstyle.

Or nonplayingstyle, as it were.

[Double A]

You may not have played a lot of games with Double A, but I know you have read many a game played here, Mr Riedquat. I doubt you are unfamiliar with his playstyle.

Or nonplayingstyle, as it were.

You yourself must be even more familiar with it, seeing as it has so many similarities with your own.

[Chaotix]

You guys are making a huge mistake.

scumscumscum is the real enemy here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks? I'm idiotic genious creating idiotic plans to frame someone I don't know based in his playstyle that also is unbeknown to me... :dizzy2:

Well I continue to object to your characterization of it as an idiotic plan. After all, it's currently winning the game.

Further, Chaotix knows all about Double A, we've been playing mafia together for what, five years now. If you're scum, the idea need not have come from you directly.

You seem really bummed about being suspected.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have my reasons. My vote is still on riedquat but I am interested in what he says.

Could you explain those reasons?

Lazy wasn't breadcrumbing being a detective. Because if he had a result on choxorn being scum, given how long it's been since we lynched one, and how there seems to be only one left, I'd think he would just reveal.

It makes no sense to hide a guilty result. So I am curious as to where your thoughts were going there.

Edit: Only thing that makes sense would be a roleblocker who blocked choxorn repeatedly.

[Double A]

Well I continue to object to your characterization of it as an idiotic plan. After all, it's currently winning the game.

Further, Chaotix knows all about Double A, we've been playing mafia together for what, five years now. If you're scum, the idea need not have come from you directly.

You seem really bummed about being suspected.

It's closer to four for me.

Anyway, I think I'll vote: Ried unless a better option presents itself.

[LazyMcCrow]

Lazy didn't make any sense as a live townie, why do you suddenly think he'll make sense as a dead townie?
That makes sense. I've just been going with my gut and my gut said Choxorn earlier in the game. He vociferously put me off, but then we didn't catch any scum. I can't help but want him to be scum, becuase he blipped my scumdar earlier, but I have no clue as to whether or not any of you are smoothing the way to victory. I don't think there's a roleblocker or there would have been a reveal by now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If BSmith is mafia then he voted for the guy he murdered after he murdered him, and never indicated that it was part of a concerted strategy to clear himself. I can lose to that, because that's awesome. He also no-murdered several times for absolutely no reason. If this is all a head-fake, wow.

If Double A is mafia then he failed to send in lots of orders and El Barto, rather uncharacteristically, refused to let Chaotix or B_Ray send in such orders for him. I don't want to lose to that, but it makes no sense. And they wouldn't deliberately implicate Double A as part of a strategy to make him survive the game.

If jht is mafia then Chaotix decided to vote for and accuse pretty much only him all game long, hoping we would never call his bluff as jht would probably be the final scum remaining. That's rather unlikely considering how many lynches he had to survive, AND he extended the game by deliberately no-murdering as well.

That leaves two people who lynched Chaotix.

choxorn and Reidquat. With two lynches left, your final scumbag is one of those, and is the reason the other one is still alive, because if you murder the one, the other seems to be a much more obvious lynch.

That's how I see it. Please go ahead and tell me why this is wrong, anyone.