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vote:choxorn
As I said earlier in the day he's one of the two prime suspects of scum and Zack is probably not a good idea today.
I hope the real doc is able to do the right thing
Why choxorn? Why isn't Jarrema one of your suspects, other than him being your mafia partner?
How in the world can I still be a "prime suspect"? Raith and I are as confirmed town as you can get.
vote:choxorn
As I said earlier in the day he's one of the two prime suspects of scum and Zack is probably not a good idea today.
I hope the real doc is able to do the right thing
WHAT
the REAL DOC?
Which, btw - I admitted that I was very wrong about Raith, showed him that HE was also wrong, and those are my strongest town reads. So your question is... well, it would be rude to say.
WHAT
the REAL DOC?
if cuth is somehow town he brought this on himself :laugh4:
that reminds me, not sure if I'm still actually voting cuth
Vote: Cuthillius
if cuth is somehow town he brought this on himself :laugh4:
PIS in this post 4 sure
but yeah
literally no regrets ever for voting cuth today
more like townie information syndrome. not 100% sure of anything
claim doc
take forever to claim results
then rescind claim
GOAT TOWN play if town
i dunno how that play makes sense as ANY alignment to be honest
also cuth was inactive for awhile there but he was still sending in night orders the whole time?
El Barto
02-23-2016, 03:11
DAY EIGHT
Cuthillius the townie was lynched.
Cuthillius: Choxorn; Jarema; Visorslash; Zack (4)
Choxorn: Raith Kemmler; atheotes; Cuthillius (3)
not voting: NONE
List of players
1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo†, killed Night Six, TOWN.
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zack II
9. Pelican†, lynched Day Six, CULTIST.
10. Visorslash II
11. Al Sipsclar†, lynched Day Seven, MAFIA.
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy†, lynched Day Five, TOWN.
15. Cuthillius†, lynched Day Eight, TOWN.
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh†, killed Night Seven, CULTIST.
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash†, killed Night Five, TOWN.
20. atheotes
It is now Night Eight. It will last 24 hours. Remember to send in your night orders.
El Barto
02-23-2016, 03:16
Was that aimed at me? I did the tally twice.
Absolutely bonkers play cuth. Absolutely bonkers.
Was that aimed at me? I did the tally twice.
Check the alignment again.
El Barto
02-23-2016, 03:21
Oh. Carry on then.
So there are 2 remaining mafia, or else the game would be over.
{choxorn, Jarrema, atheotes, Visorslash}
I don't think choxorn and atheotes are ever partners.
I'm pretty sure Jarrema is scum, fits his scum meta pretty well (on almost every major bandwagon except the one on mafia, voting visorslash for no reason) and atheotes is the most likely partner there.
atheotes has been constantly pushing choxorn, but hasn't said anything about Jarema when the reasoning used applies to both of them. His late switch onto the al sips wagon also looks like bussing.
landlubber/visor seems townie enough. Pretty much exactly how lubber played as town in aspiring rappers. Visor's laziness in this last phase gives me pause, as that's much more like scum visor than town visor. Though to be fair he didn't seem to give much of a shit as townie earlier in this game either.
atheotes/jarema seems most likely.
visor give your thoughts plz on possible teams
i think jarrema is scum
i am undecided on the other
Raith Kemmler
02-23-2016, 05:19
Has anyone not thought Jarema is evil this game?
atheotes
02-23-2016, 06:39
Bizarre play from Cuth this last phase.
Zack, stop reading selectively. Go back and look at all my posts in the game without confirmation bias. And also read some of your posts. You cleared a lot of people as town. You will understand what i am saying by confirmation bias.
I have been going hard after Choxorn because of his scummy behavior all game and the fact that he never bothered to respond. All the more frustrating because i couldnt get any pressure on him. As you pointed out, Jarrema is also flying under the radar with pretty scummy behavior. They are both scummy.
Visor too was giving me a lot of scum vibes in the previous phase. He said he could vote for Choxorn but waited till Cuth buried himself and jumped on. Also, Your back and forth with him was very scummy indeed. I just wish you had cleared yourself sooner with Raith.
El Barto
02-24-2016, 05:29
NIGHT EIGHT
Zack II was killed.
He was town!
List of players
1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo†, killed Night Six, TOWN.
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zack II†, killed Night Nine, TOWN.
9. Pelican†, lynched Day Six, CULTIST.
10. Visorslash II
11. Al Sipsclar†, lynched Day Seven, MAFIA.
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy†, lynched Day Five, TOWN.
15. Cuthillius†, lynched Day Eight, TOWN.
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh†, killed Night Seven, CULTIST.
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash†, killed Night Five, TOWN.
20. atheotes
It is now Day Nine. It will last 48 hours. Remember to bold your votes.
P.S. sorry about the delay.
barely lasted longer than zack 1
barely lasted longer than zack 1
thats what she said
atheotes
02-24-2016, 10:13
Do or die.
Vote: Visor you show up to post but not vote? why? you were dithering your vote yesterday as well.
atheotes
02-24-2016, 10:14
I would like to hear from Choxorn and Jarrema as well. Hopefully it will be more than a single post with a vote!
I was thinking that Visor, Cuth and Choxorn are scum. I was also thinking that Visor and Cuth are from the same team.
Now, it turns out that Cuth was town. I am not so sure about Visor. I still have bad feelings about him, but his associations with Cuth are defending him now.
Therefore, I think the best target is vote: Choxorn
atheotes
02-24-2016, 11:38
I was thinking that Visor, Cuth and Choxorn are scum. I was also thinking that Visor and Cuth are from the same team.
Now, it turns out that Cuth was town. I am not so sure about Visor. I still have bad feelings about him, but his associations with Cuth are defending him now.
Therefore, I think the best target is vote: Choxorn
What associations? Whatever you have said makes no sense. Visor said he could vote Choxorn but never did. He voted for Cuth. and it was decisive as Zack had already locked on to Cuth.
:wall: Cult still remains!!!
associations prior last day
and, it is entirely possible that Choxorn + Visor forms one team
atheotes
02-24-2016, 13:44
associations prior last day
and, it is entirely possible that Choxorn + Visor forms one team
Visor could have lynched Choxorn. But he chose to lynch Cuth! All asssociations/support are null and void!
If you think Visor is also possibly scum, why are you not voting for him? Even if he was not your primary suspect, it would make sense to vote for him, as he already has a vote. It would make it necessary for him to respond.
Raith Kemmler
02-24-2016, 14:36
Vote:Jarema
For better or worse I want to see him flip today and know for sure.
If you think Visor is also possibly scum, why are you not voting for him? Even if he was not your primary suspect, it would make sense to vote for him, as he already has a vote. It would make it necessary for him to respond.
I indeed can.
unvote; vote: Visorslash
I am a bulletproof townie fwiw
I haven't seen any others claim .
Vote: Atheotes
I love how you completly ignroe the entire reason I voted Cuth.
You lying about this and your 'reasoning' for your vote at f5 just smell like scum trying to push through a win.
So there are 2 remaining mafia, or else the game would be over.
{choxorn, Jarrema, atheotes, Visorslash}
I don't think choxorn and atheotes are ever partners.
I'm pretty sure Jarrema is scum, fits his scum meta pretty well (on almost every major bandwagon except the one on mafia, voting visorslash for no reason) and atheotes is the most likely partner there.
atheotes has been constantly pushing choxorn, but hasn't said anything about Jarema when the reasoning used applies to both of them. His late switch onto the al sips wagon also looks like bussing.
landlubber/visor seems townie enough. Pretty much exactly how lubber played as town in aspiring rappers. Visor's laziness in this last phase gives me pause, as that's much more like scum visor than town visor. Though to be fair he didn't seem to give much of a shit as townie earlier in this game either.
atheotes/jarema seems most likely.
I am fairly sure zack literally solved the game at this point
Vote:Jarema
For better or worse I want to see him flip today and know for sure.
I could go here as well.
Atheotes/Jarrema are my biggest scum reads.
What associations? Whatever you have said makes no sense. Visor said he could vote Choxorn but never did. He voted for Cuth. and it was decisive as Zack had already locked on to Cuth.
:wall: Cult still remains!!!
You are DELIBERATELY LYING and MISREPRESENTING and blatantly ignoring the posts I made yesterday to support your agenda. You are scum.
Raith Kemmler
02-24-2016, 15:41
Vote: Atheotes
Could we have Chox replaced? It feels super cheap if the mafia win simply because they voted first in the day and town #3 didn't bother showing up.
Vote: Atheotes
Could we have Chox replaced? It feels super cheap if the mafia win simply because they voted first in the day and town #3 didn't bother showing up.
Choxorn
El Barto
yeah it would, can you ping him on cfc please takh?
choxorn, i am guessing you are the last bulletproof townie
leave a hint and it will confirm you
(fwiw, i ctrl fed the entire thread, and no other player left a hint)
atheotes
02-24-2016, 17:21
Vote: Atheotes
I love how you completly ignroe the entire reason I voted Cuth.
You lying about this and your 'reasoning' for your vote at f5 just smell like scum trying to push through a win.
I am ignoring the reason why you voted for Cuth. I am just concerned about the fact that you waited a lot...same today as well. You even said "I could vote for Choxorn" but did not. Why? it was scummy.
You are DELIBERATELY LYING and MISREPRESENTING and blatantly ignoring the posts I made yesterday to support your agenda. You are scum.
My only agenda was getting you talking. because your exchanges were superficial yesterday. this is do or die and i believe there are 2 mafia and 1 cult. I cant keep looking for scum in general and need to lynch mafia. I cant decide which one you are. Hence the need to get you all talking. I was going to go after Choxorn again, but then fact that you showed up without showing any intent.
I am a bulletproof townie fwiw
I haven't seen any others claim .
:rolleyes5:
Vote: Atheotes
Could we have Chox replaced? It feels super cheap if the mafia win simply because they voted first in the day and town #3 didn't bother showing up.
Raith, go back and read all my posts not in isolation, but within the flow of the game. You are making a mistake. Choxorn will show up just to vote and get away with the game.
Raith Kemmler
02-24-2016, 18:48
Atheo, vote Jarema then. I want him flipped as that says more about the teams then Chox or Visor could. He's some brand of evil, and needs to go. If you do that, I'll take a full re-read and post my thoughts at night as I'm almost certainly dead tomorrow.
Raith Kemmler
02-24-2016, 18:53
Visor could be cult I guess, but he's the least likely mafia left. So I won't vote him before anyone else remaining as it stands. Mafia has to go either way, if there's only 1 cult left then, Meh, it's a bit annoying the least impressive faction in the game wins, but crap happens. Although does a cult win at even with town, or do they need the unconverted mafia and town dead?
atheotes
02-24-2016, 19:01
You beat me to it. I was going to suggest this. My only concern was/is if he turns out to be cult. I did a quick vote check and except for voting second out of 4 votes on the Pelican lynch (no one else got more than 1 vote) there is nothing to suggest he is not cult.
Anyways only the 3 of us are fighting right now. and we all agree that Jarema is scummy albeit on different levels. For me he is behind Choxorn. For you both he is probably top of the list. It is important to be vote decisively.
unvote; vote: Jarrema
Then we lose. I
is it a case of cult getting their votes together to kill one of the last remaining townies?
I wonder how many cult and mafia players are there and I start to believe that only me and one other person are town aligned.
Raith Kemmler
02-24-2016, 21:07
I am fairly sure zack literally solved the game at this point
I'm hoping, but I need to take one long look to see for myself.
is it a case of cult getting their votes together to kill one of the last remaining townies?
I wonder how many cult and mafia players are there and I start to believe that only me and one other person are town aligned.
Wha? Wha? What?
Getting their votes together? How many cultists could possibly be left?
You wonder what? Let's math this.
I am confirmed town, or as close as it gets.
There are 1-2 mafia left, or game would be over.
So 2 mafia at game start is...poppycock. Also, look at Al's final posts. Dude wanted just a little more time.
Here. Let me translate.
Activating Universal Translator
This is Al. Town, leave me alone. Just a few more days and we win this. Pay no attention. Keep killing cult. Just keeping killing cult. He was basically the Dory of cult hunting.
That wasn't the paranoid ramblings of a dude with days left. It was a guy yelling, just a little closer. Little closer. 3/3 and game.
So. 2 mafia. Me town.
2 left. I think probably 1 town and 1 cult. But this ain't no grand mystery.
In no universe do you look like town.
Invite;
Vote: Jarema
The funny thing is Raith, is that Jarrema has been caught as mafia in these situations so many times. To use the analogy that was used last time, he is the kid with his hands in the cookie jar, can't stop himself from back and getting more.
Unvote; Vote: Jarrema
I hope choxorn shows up. if he is the other BP townie, than this game is basically a lock
lynch jarrema, raith dies in the night because he is the only unkillable town, lynch atheotes.
one of the dumbest town victories you will ever see
El Barto
02-25-2016, 01:56
I've just fixed the timer, for some reason it ended today instead of tomorrow.
Choxorn
El Barto
yeah it would, can you ping him on cfc please takh?
I've just messaged him…
Vote: Atheotes
Could we have Chox replaced? It feels super cheap if the mafia win simply because they voted first in the day and town #3 didn't bother showing up.
I've been here, and I've voted most days, I just haven't been saying a whole lot. Been busy with other mafia games and real life stuff. You act like I've been hiding in a pillow fort the entire game or something.
Anyway, Vote: Jarrema for being the most obvious scum in the universe.
I've been here, and I've voted most days, I just haven't been saying a whole lot. Been busy with other mafia games and real life stuff. You act like I've been hiding in a pillow fort the entire game or something.
Anyway, Vote: Jarrema for being the most obvious scum in the universe.
That's it, that's the thing.
town wins! :D
Truly, your defense is impeccable.
just, blindness of others is scarrying and infuriating me.
I think that at least two cultists are among people voting for me. It is a concentrated effort to eliminate me. You will regret it.
Invite;
Vote: Jarema
I dont want to be invited for your party
aaaaargh
LOL
let me go quote a game where the same thing happened to you as mafia
i think you will remember it quite well, i was town in that game too
bleh
I seriously do not understand what you meant by this sentence, and I am surely interested in understanding what it means
We are down to three people, two of us are examining the behaviour of two others, the other is trying to play the other two against each other. Only scum would be basing their vote on the behaviour of one player, a townie would be looking at both, and basing their vote on such.
yes, of course. I was just seeing your vote as based only on examining behavior of Visor
And both your and Visor's votes appear to be based solely on examining each other, with a little fluff about me thrown in for good measure. :shrug:
good point :)
he just seems so scummy to me, that I have to vote for him
I believe that we are now in situation in which neither me nor Visor will change vote. I think you will decide who is going to be lynched. Therefore, it is important that you examine both sides of your choice
.dsdf
mmm
Why so silent?
There is nothing more needs to be said. Unless you are scum trying to get out of a bind.
well, I will just reiterate: the one who will be lynched now will lose, no matter if he is scum or not. So of course, I would gladely change your choice
congratulations town, well made.
I was waiting for the end of that day, when votes were on Visor...
I truly didn't suspect you, but one giveaway was your manner after being put in the lead: like a little kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar! ;P
......
just, blindness of others is scarrying and infuriating me.
I think that at least two cultists are among people voting for me. It is a concentrated effort to eliminate me. You will regret it.
LOL @ the fearmongering. There are no cultists left.
There are two unkillable townies and Raith who is unconvertable.
You killed all the cultists. :laugh4:
the wording here is the important part: concentrated effort + you will regret this
we are in LYLO. No townies says you will regret this
you guys fell at the final hurdle. The only person you can kill tonight is Raith. :laugh4:
Visor, I dont believe that you are bulletproof innocent.
First, I dont think there are two bulletproofs in the game. I think there would be at least one miss-kill by mafia in such case. I think there is like 25% chance for having 2 bulletproofs now.
Second, I dont believe you were not recruited. I can hardly imagine a world in which cult will not try to convert you.
I think you are plain cultist (70% chance) or bulletproof cultist (20% chance). Of course, you could be mafia, and thus unconvertalbe (5% chance?). There is only slim chance that you are innocent (5%), and even slimmer that you are innocent bulletproof
Visor, I dont believe that you are bulletproof innocent.
First, I dont think there are two bulletproofs in the game. I think there would be at least one miss-kill by mafia in such case. I think there is like 25% chance for having 2 bulletproofs now.
Second, I dont believe you were not recruited. I can hardly imagine a world in which cult will not try to convert you.
I think you are plain cultist (70% chance) or bulletproof cultist (20% chance). Of course, you could be mafia, and thus unconvertalbe (5% chance?). There is only slim chance that you are innocent (5%), and even slimmer that you are innocent bulletproof
-There are two players immune to each scum faction's abilities, and a couple other roles that might act against one or the other.
Straight from the OP.
Sorry jarrema, you and atheotes lose.
And second of all, your argument makes zero sense. You said that the first time, and I wasn't converted, and now I'm landlubber's role (and spoiler alert: still not converted).
So you're completely wrong on all fronts. You're stretching and reaching and you know you are.
You know you and Atheotes are dead to rights caught.
Pillow Fort the hint, like agnostic was the hint for Raith and Zack.
There is no cult left in the game.
There are two BP townies, Raith, and the mafia.
Game is over. Atheotes futile attempt at bussing is hilarious.
Visor: for whatever it is worth, I feel almost sure there is at least one more cultist alive.
El Barto
02-26-2016, 04:23
DAY NINE
Jarema was lynched. He was mafia!
Visorslash: Jarema (1)
Jarrema: atheotes; Raith Kemmler; Visorslash; Choxorn (4)
List of players
1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema†, lynched Day Nine, MAFIA.
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo†, killed Night Six, TOWN.
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zack II†, killed Night Nine, TOWN.
9. Pelican†, lynched Day Six, CULTIST.
10. Visorslash II
11. Al Sipsclar†, lynched Day Seven, MAFIA.
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy†, lynched Day Five, TOWN.
15. Cuthillius†, lynched Day Eight, TOWN.
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh†, killed Night Seven, CULTIST.
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash†, killed Night Five, TOWN.
20. atheotes
It is now Night Nine. It will last 24 hours. Remember to send in your Night Actions!
Raith Kemmler
02-26-2016, 05:21
Truly a shocking turn of events.
El Barto
02-27-2016, 02:36
Update comes in slightly early, courtesy of your host. Hang on.
El Barto
02-27-2016, 02:38
NIGHT NINE
Visorslash II was found dead.
He was a Cultist!
List of players
1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema†, lynched Day Nine, MAFIA.
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo†, killed Night Six, TOWN.
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zack II†, killed Night Nine, TOWN.
9. Pelican†, lynched Day Six, CULTIST.
10. Visorslash II†, CULTIST.
11. Al Sipsclar†, lynched Day Seven, MAFIA.
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy†, lynched Day Five, TOWN.
15. Cuthillius†, lynched Day Eight, TOWN.
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh†, killed Night Seven, CULTIST.
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash†, killed Night Five, TOWN.
20. atheotes
It is now Day Ten. It will last 48 hours. Remember to bold your votes!
Raith Kemmler
02-27-2016, 04:31
Vote:Atheotes
So here we are. Atheotes. I'm very curious what you're going to say at this point. Chox really can't be mafia based on Visors signal, although nice shooting. I didn't believe his, town is totally safe byline either. Good on ya. You've hunted them even though they just keep coming.
Visors plan makes sense from seeing me dead, which leads an unsettling air to Chox. But that doesn't really change things for me. I couldn't exactly just let the mafia win. So here we are. If Chox is cult, I presume we have a draw? Or a town win if he's innocent.
Maybe cult gets a night kill? It'd be they're luck in this game to grab win even if they've gotten the snot beaten out of them.
But you're the devil I know. My team loses if you're alive tonight, so...bye?
Thanks for the cult hunt and moral support.
atheotes
02-27-2016, 06:11
Do you think Choxorn is town? You lynch me and cult wins.
I want to make a proposal. I will not kill you. We will call it a draw and i will be happy that Cult did not win even though they had the best chance.
I will be pretty disappointed if Choxorn wins the game without actually doing anything all game.
The late replacements did mess up the game for us. But i believe you and I have worked hard through the game. So if you let me live, I will not kill you, even if the Host decides to modkill me for it. :bow:
Vote: Choxorn
Raith Kemmler
02-27-2016, 07:32
Tempting. You've played very well. But I need to at least try to give my faction a chance. Besides, I do know how the mafia win works. Maybe the game was over days ago, and Zack and me rallying was too late. Visorslash certainly gave the feel of a locked game. Choxorn could be cult. Guy has been tight lipped enough a read is iffy.
So then I accept my vote didn't matter? Fun.
Mr. Narrator, end the game.
When cult wins, we can have drinks after about how unfair it is.
atheotes
02-27-2016, 09:16
Why do you think your vote doesn't matter?
Its basically down to whether you think he is cult or not. If you think he is cult, vote for him and we can share the victory (or I get modkilled for my impudence and you win). If you think he is town then Ieave it as it is.
I thought Visor's alignment with Chox was clear last phase. I think it is not confirmation bias on my part.
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Raith Kemmler
02-27-2016, 15:21
Because if I'm the last townie, the game ends no matter what. Don't kill me? You still win, you brought town down to even numbers with your group. Same with cult apparently. You don't need to kill me Atheotes. The only reason the game isn't over now, if I guess correctly, is because you need cult gone to win.
Your win condition can't be to get rid of every person in the game. You could get stuck with the bulletproof's blocking your path.
atheotes
02-27-2016, 18:02
Because if I'm the last townie, the game ends no matter what. Don't kill me? You still win, you brought town down to even numbers with your group. Same with cult apparently. You don't need to kill me Atheotes. The only reason the game isn't over now, if I guess correctly, is because you need cult gone to win.
Your win condition can't be to get rid of every person in the game. You could get stuck with the bulletproof's blocking your path.
I have to outnumber all opponents to win. Thats why i proposed it. Normally i would agree with what you have said. But this is what i have this game. :book2:
Dont know if the condition is this way for a narrative purpose.
El Barto
02-28-2016, 05:58
DAY TEN - ENDGAME
atheotes was lynched.
atheotes: Choxorn; Raith Kemmler (2)
Choxorn: atheotes
He was found out to be the last living member of the mafia.
Choxorn said: ‘Convert! The Cult of Cultness has evil purple robes and pointy hats! And we get discounts for pizza on Fridays!’
But Raith Kemmler replied: ‘Great. I am an agnostic, so I don't much really believe in whatever nonsense religion you follow. And I am lactose-intolerant. I couldn't stomach the cheese anyway.’
Choxorn waved a gun.
‘Then CONVERT OR DIE!’
‘That gun's made of soap and painted over with watercolours. You've just made it! It's still wet.’
‘Erm…’
They left it at that.
List of players
1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema†, lynched Day Nine, MAFIA.
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo†, killed Night Six, TOWN.
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zack II†, killed Night Nine, TOWN.
9. Pelican†, lynched Day Six, CULTIST.
10. Visorslash II†, CULTIST.
11. Al Sipsclar†, lynched Day Seven, MAFIA.
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy†, lynched Day Five, TOWN.
15. Cuthillius†, lynched Day Eight, TOWN.
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh†, killed Night Seven, CULTIST.
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash†, killed Night Five, TOWN.
20. atheotes†, lynched Day Ten, MAFIA.
The game has ended. The Mafia have lost the game. The Cult and Town are TIED. Thank you all for playing. I'll post the official rules, gamelog, etc. tomorrow as it's some time after midnight for me already.
GeneralHankerchief
02-28-2016, 06:03
Now that the game is over, for meta purposes, I'd just like to point out that I was recruited to the cult the same night I died. So if you use my behavior here as a basis for future reads on me, 100% of the posts I made in this game were as town.
Not sure how the cult could have lost here, with seemingly infinite recruitment. Seem a lot more powerful than the other factions.
Now that the game is over, for meta purposes, I'd just like to point out that I was recruited to the cult the same night I died. So if you use my behavior here as a basis for future reads on me, 100% of the posts I made in this game were as town.
:laugh4:
So cult actions took precedence over mafia actions?
I think this game was inherently unbalanced in cults favor, but will wait for game description
here is mafia qt:
http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/JHtyiC4ABN9tb
http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/7KhfqLKpYNpQ
Cult qt.
I would like to point out that one of the biggest reasons town didn't win this game was Cuthillius claiming doctor, not claiming results, then claiming awful results, and then unclaiming.
Choxorn probably gets lynched then, there is no cult left, Athetoes and Jarrema get lynched in f5 and f3.
That and voting the guy who refused to break the tie to save himself. Over cult or mafia.
I don't wanna harangue you Cuth but that stuff hurt.
Me voting atpg was also abysmal. I highly regret doing that and still don't fully understand why I did.
Anyway thanks takhisis, all, for the game.
Had its moments. Reminds me why unrestricted cults are no fun though.
seireikhaan
02-28-2016, 08:25
Wut happened
Reminds me why unrestricted cults are no fun though.
Especially when your name rhymes with shmizzaguy. :laugh4:
Oh, and I think Zack II did a good job of showing the effectiveness of vote analysis as a scumhunting method. Town Zack was actually on the money for once in the endgame.
Thanks guys! it was an interesting game to follow and play in. I still have no idea how you guys scum hunt on this board, but I'll keep at it until I find out!
I had fun!
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2016, 13:28
Scumbag one:
Vote:Visorslash
I'm willing to follow ATPG and lynch him tomorrow if he's wrong.
Cuth's behavior that round and where I currently stand on Visor.
Khaan was innocent, Visor was my suspect.
vote:golden1knight
Saves Jarema.
Potential scumbag two:
time to catch some cult.
There is a problem, that searching for cult leader is different than searching for cultist.
As for cultist, it is simpler but with lower reward. Just ask the question: "whom I would recruit if I was cult leader?" and there is a chance, you will got a cultist. For me, it would be active, effective player. My picks would include GH, Pizza, Visor.
Problem is, lynching cultist only buys some time.
As for cult leader, it is harder. It is like searching for SK or a survivor. With only one difference - when cult leader will be at risk, cultist will try to defend him with all their might. I think cult leader will be either someone lurking (not wanting to drew attention), or someone active with really hard balls (namely, Pizza - I know him and love him for such cheeky behavior).
Because he is the only person in both categories (possible cultist, and plausible cult leader) I will vote: ATPG
Cult-specific hunting and anticipating I'd be the convert. Also iirc Jarema even stated earlier that his policy toward me would be to wait until I was converted, then lynch me.
vote: Visorslash.
please, dont lynch Pizza today. Let the cult night or two for recruiting him, and lynch him then - almost sure method of catching scum
Now, this could also come from Jarema-the-townie, because that much is not mafia-specific reasoning, but some straightforward assessment of my likelihood of being cult in several rounds.
vote: Golden1Knight
Don't like this pile-on vote. Click for context.
Scumbag number three:
Mr. and Mrs. Smith? :laugh4:
Maybe you're from different factions, that would make things interesting at home.
Hmm, is this the claim that Pizza is asking for? Vote: Golden1Knight
The Snake cult had an influx of new blood who were pushing the discussion. Here we have nothing to talk about.
I believe Pizza was actually converted the night before. But unlike Visor, he wouldn't have "just voted Choxorn and peaced out" (which Visor just did, btw), but instead would burst into activity, like that altercation with Visor yesterday. In fact, it seems like failing to lynch Visor yesterday, they successfully converted him the last night. Now, Pizza wants the other faction to roleclaim to finish the game. Vote: Askthepizzaguy
Raith, whom Pizza was robo-voting days before, is another cultist.
Sarcasm, right?
Oh, yeah, that elusive "townie line of thinking" again that I'm consistently fail to demonstrate. For some reason, only scum is always accusing me of this. I guess this is another case of "he who smelt it, dealt it". Unvote; Vote: Pelican
Pizza is cult
Raith is with Pizza
Visor has been just converted
GH is mafia
Sooh is still town
Choxorn is either scum
Cuth is scum
Jarema is scum
Zain is town
G1K, Csargo, SV are Olympic-grade lurkers. If Bruce Springsteen had ever recorded “Born to Lurk,” these two three would have been on the album cover.
Cuth might be town for lynching a townie.
I mean, pretty much diaf, Al Sips. You're radiating the scumness.
Possible Cultist:
So I have gut feelings about both Raith and Al Sipsclar that I was hoping to be able to work with today and see if there's a case on either (or both) especially considering the Jarrema wagon looks exactly like the Khaan one yesterday and I don't feel super comfortable with the alternative either. But I think this is the only opportunity I'm going to have to post at all today. Anyways, the post I quoted definitely looks like it's coming from a mafia perspective so vote vote: Al Sips and I'd like to say more but if I do I'll be late for class.
Cult clearly wants Al Sips dead.
I do too.
Vote: Pelican as well.
Vote: Al Sipsclar as well.
Easy game.
Difference is I want cult and mafia both dead.
Next 4 lynches should be Cuth, Al, Jarema, Pelican.
But you know, I will get spite converted to cult in the interim. So mafia, do you want to kill the cult by your murder, or via the lynch?
It's up to you, broheims.
I can lynch you today or the cultist.
You are outed either way imo, so I won't be moving my vote to Pelican until I see at least 2 of you do so.
3/4 based purely on mid-game scum-hunting, no revealed mafiosi, no detective results, and a vanilla townie role.
Pretty safe to say I am a boss. I even called Pelican as being cult not mafia, and was the only cultist remaining in play at the time.
Lynch Al, then Pelican, then Jarema, then Cuth, in that order.
Technically Pelican first would prevent more recruits. But I'm most certain of Al.
You should lynch only inside of these 4 today, and it would be a really good idea for all townies to actually consolidate their votes because I'm calling out both the mafia and the cult. I need voting allies now.
This post would have won the game for town. My mislynch target (Cuth) occurred at the end of 3 non-town recommended lynches.
That last line was me peeing into the wind, because my fellow townies let me down hard that round.
Not picking on Visor, even though he knows that was a poorly justified vote. He was trying to win, albeit not really thinking it through.
The others who simply didn't show to help me....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja06DJrFe5E
Pizzaguy out! :cool:
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2016, 13:34
addendum
There was some very good late game play by certain peoples. I certainly don't mean to imply I was the only one looking or being accurate.
Kudos to those who brought down the mafia after I died.
Kudos cult for sticking it through to the end. Tend to agree the cult was too powerful.
GG thanks all for playing, thanks for hosting, El B.
I think that we, the mafia, did really good job of targetting cultists at night. The fact that despite our effectiveness in thinning down their numbers cultists managed to make it to the endgame is a proof of overpower of the cult.
Kennigit
02-28-2016, 20:55
thanks for hosting
Al Sipsclar
02-28-2016, 22:47
3/4 based purely on mid-game scum-hunting, no revealed mafiosi, no detective results, and a vanilla townie role.
Pretty safe to say I am a boss. I even called Pelican as being cult not mafia, and was the only cultist remaining in play at the time.
This post would have won the game for town. My mislynch target (Cuth) occurred at the end of 3 non-town recommended lynches.
I was quite frankly astonished. This was my second scum game ever, and I didn't have high expectations about my play, but I didn't expect it to be that transparent either!
https://d12edgf4lwbh8j.cloudfront.net/photo/image/track_9_4.gif
GG everyone!
El Barto
02-29-2016, 00:33
Cult actions always preceded the mafia's… then again, the Doctor protected against both the mafia's and the cult's actions. Somehow Cuth managed to get himself lynched.
Yes, cult were intended to be more powerful than they usually are. They weren't unrestricted, though, as there were two people they couldn't convert besides the doctor.
There was a backup for the doctor (GH), but he was killed.
Cuthillius
02-29-2016, 16:49
Believe it or not, this was only my second worst game recently.
Guys. Don't lynch someone for unclaiming doc. -.-
Good game, thanks for hosting! :yes:
Guys. Don't lynch someone for unclaiming doc. -.-
:wall:
Cuthillius
03-01-2016, 02:28
:wall:
I understand it may not have been the wisest thing to do, but the game was lurking and I was at an impasse. It was a means of generating discussion, and then a means of possibly avoiding the NK. I didn't realize it wasn't obvious.
atheotes
03-01-2016, 05:19
Thansk for hosting Takhisis! :bow: I had a lot of fun playing. :2thumbsup:
As others have said before, i do believe the cult was overpowered.
Also, i think having replacements very late in the game is difficult to play with as there is very little to read on them. Perhaps it is just my personal opinion.
El Barto
03-01-2016, 21:03
If there hadn't been any replacements then I'd've run out of townies.
Yes, the cult was slightly overpowered. It was on purpose. Usually I've seen cults floundering about, but that might be because most people haven't often played as Cult and don't know how to.
Also, I had a couple more roles planned that I couldn't include because of insufficient signups. I had to downsize as best I could.
(for next time, if you're all willing to play another mafia v. Cult game, there'd be a quite different Cult mechanic. It might be… fun.)
atheotes
03-02-2016, 05:07
Sure. I would sign up for that.
Good game by plenty of the townsfolk (ATPG in particular) and Raith and Choxorn for surviving till the end to tie it. :2thumbsup:
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