View Full Version : Small Mafia Game IKEA mafia [Concluded]
Raith Kemmler
04-11-2016, 21:58
Not seeing dual mafia. Zack and Jarema buddies is too weird.
Raith Kemmler
04-11-2016, 21:59
1 minute. Make your peace everyone.
Askthepizzaguy
04-11-2016, 22:00
Not seeing dual mafia. Zack and Jarema buddies is too weird.
I wouldn't allow Zack to survive the game, I could easily see this as w/w wagons.
But feel free to look elsewhere day 2. It's infuriating to have to deal with accusations all game that never go away.
Mercy rule applies. You guys decided not to lynch Zack today, so feel free to give him a chance to outlive the mafia team.
As long as it isn't lynch or lose, it's fine.
Votes:
AdmiralKleenex (6) - BSmith, Golden1Knight, Jarema, atheotes, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler
Choxorn (1) - El Barto
Jarema (9) - edse, Punisher, seireikhaan, AdmiralKleenex, Visor, johnhughthom, Choxorn, GH, askthepizzaguy
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
Not voting:
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460408400.png
That's a lynch!
Flip incoming!
Raith Kemmler
04-11-2016, 22:02
Mercy rule applies. You guys decided not to lynch Zack today, so feel free to give him a chance to outlive the mafia team.
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Closed set up. You might just survive this night.
Askthepizzaguy
04-11-2016, 22:04
I request no doctor protection tonight. Don't want it. If I die and flip mason, I would be the most surprised player in the game.
On this, the first day of the Living Room Showdown, the furniture carefully relaxed their tense springs and puffed up wood and plush. They had discussed for a long time, pointing out each other's shiny bits, and how some of them didn't creak or croak when they were applied weight to, and how some were free from wear and stains. Screws, nails, wooden peg legs and tassels pointed throughout the room. Chairs, tables, shelves and lamps shook their heads and shrugged their shoulders as only furniture can do.
Finally it came down to two pieces. Both very suspicious looking. Both seemingly too fancy for such a common room of common Scandinavian design, cheaply mass produced for the masses of people who spend their Saturday going to a furniture store to have meatballs and potatoes instead of going to a REAL restaurant, like Burger King.
But, I digress. Two pieces were chosen, and they were both put against one another in a very unspectacular showdown (because really, what can you expect? ). One seemed rather taken with the idea of finer cuisine, and the other seemed rather unimpressed and oblivious to how this whole showdown was to happen.
"How hard can it be? You have to be CLEAR when you vote for someone!" a rug shouted from the hallway.
Most of the other furniture picked sides. Were they both a bit too fancy for the schmancy, or was it just one of them, and in that case, which one was it? Could it be neither? Judging style can be a bit tough when all you've known is the warehouse shelf of an IKEA store.
It was time to make a final choice. Some rustle and bustle as the furniture all had their final say, and it was decided.
Jarema has been lynched.
He was:
https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/myha82/IKEA%20mafia/skoj-veggklokke___zpssnkbj1nc.jpg
Skoj wall clock, vanilla town.
End of N1 is:
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png (http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png)
Is night posting allowed?
>Sign up for game
>Do nothing
(this is what you get for voting me every d1 you soab)
Night posting IS allowed.
End of N1 is:
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png (http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png)
I wouldn't allow Zack to survive the game, I could easily see this as w/w wagons.
But feel free to look elsewhere day 2. It's infuriating to have to deal with accusations all game that never go away.
Mercy rule applies. You guys decided not to lynch Zack today, so feel free to give him a chance to outlive the mafia team.
As long as it isn't lynch or lose, it's fine.
I request no doctor protection tonight. Don't want it. If I die and flip mason, I would be the most surprised player in the game.
wtf is this?
Raith Kemmler
04-11-2016, 22:11
Thanks for the narrative. Very nice.
So Jarema was just not paying attention. Cool. Cool.
Thanks for the narrative. Very nice.
I try. It's a rough crowd. So used to good narrations...
Askthepizzaguy
04-11-2016, 22:12
Thrilling conclusion.
Mayhaps we lynch a scumbag day 2.
i have no regrets for lynching jarema d1. I am completely sick of playing a game with him to have him vote me (and typically focus on me) d1. I will continue to get him lynched until he stops that.
Askthepizzaguy
04-11-2016, 22:22
Doc should self-protect or find the cop and protect that person. I don't intend to sit behind a barrier all game. I've done that plenty of times and I'm particularly disinclined to do it this game for personal reasons.
This is a serious request and should be heeded by such a doctor.
GeneralHankerchief
04-11-2016, 22:33
:laugh4: All that sound and fury for nothing. I'm getting flashbacks to the .Org of yore.
:laugh4: All that sound and fury for nothing. I'm getting flashbacks to the .Org of yore.
At least I had chicken pretzels.
Askthepizzaguy
04-11-2016, 23:51
Kleenex Jenkins, everyone.
does anyone have any thoughts on the game now that jarema has flipped
or are we al gonna twiddle our thumbs
johnhughthom
04-12-2016, 10:31
I'm afraid to post anything in case I make someone cry.
I'm afraid to post anything in case I make someone cry.
i'm afraid its too late
:cry:
atheotes
04-12-2016, 10:53
I am still wondering how and why Zack is still alive. I also think pizza could be scum.
Where is all this talk of cop/doctor/seer coming from? I find it difficult to believe any of the mason claims.
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 13:22
I am still wondering how and why Zack is still alive. I also think pizza could be scum.
Where is all this talk of cop/doctor/seer coming from? I find it difficult to believe any of the mason claims.
Yeah, I typically claim mason when I'm scum. It's a legit strat, particularly for d1.
Congrats atheotes, you just derp cleared.
Reminder that there's just six hours left of N1.
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png (http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/bla_1460494800.png)
I am still wondering how and why Zack is still alive. I also think pizza could be scum.
Where is all this talk of cop/doctor/seer coming from? I find it difficult to believe any of the mason claims.
How and why are you still alive?
does anyone have any thoughts on the game now that jarema has flipped
or are we al gonna twiddle our thumbs
gh, barto, or punisher should be lynched tomorrow
Raith Kemmler
04-12-2016, 18:26
What's the case on punisher?
What's the case on punisher?
sheeping visor/pizza to jump on a village wagon, then peace out
it's something scum mat93 (punisher) would definitely do.
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 19:34
Punisher is not a good vote.
Double A
04-12-2016, 20:02
>Sign up for game
>Do nothing
(this is what you get for voting me every d1 you soab)
There's a reason why I'm still lurking. Jesus christ you guys.
But what is this? absurdly early daylight?
Don't let it fool you guys. It's just the northern hemisphere. It's night for 97 more minutes.
*THIS HAS BEEN A FRIENDLY MOD SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*
Morning, Day 2.
It had been a night of restless sleep in the Olsson's living room. They all had nightmares about how the poor wall clock had been knocked off its peg and landed on the floor. Some furniture shed a tear, causing Mrs. Olsson to look strangely at her dog, thinking it must have drooled on the floor.
However, bad dreams were not the only bad thing to have happened in the living room over night. Some swore they had seen lights flicker, and heard dragging sounds and knocks and bangs. Some said it was quiet as the grave. All of them saw the end result though.
AdmiralKleenex has died.
https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/myha82/IKEA%20mafia/marietorp-ramme-for-bilder-svart__zps1dvrycpl.jpg
He was Marietorp picture frame, vanilla town.
Evidently he had fallen on the floor in the middle of the night, and he who was so good at clinging to the wall, even when the children were running on the second floor!!!
Choxorn has died.
https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/myha82/IKEA%20mafia/valje-veggskap-m-d-rer_zpsu4jcrkrs.jpg
He was Valje wall cabinet, vanilla town.
Again! Another wall piece? What's up with everything hanging up all of a sudden falling down? Was it a poltergeist? A sleepwalking Olsson? Faulty production (it is IKEA after all)?
Or, was it again... foul play... Who knocked the box off it's sock...ets? Who made the frame be wild game? Who cleared the walls from the... ok I can't come up with a rhyming word here.
The furniture eyed each other (or, like... turned against each other as if to look I guess), and prepared for one more day of investigation.
Day 2 ends:
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png (http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png)
**mod note: If I can't find a replacement for Khaan I will modkill that slot.
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 22:03
RIP Zack.
I claim the vig kill that shot Zack. Had to see. My bad Zack.
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 22:04
I was willing to die last night and trade myself for Zack. Seriously, I accept full responsibility for that day phase.
Sigh
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 22:12
Take a look at this after I go to sleep. Bleh.
If someone has a lead on the wolves please feel free.
Votes:
El Barto (1)- Visor
Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, El Barto, atheotes, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler, edse, Punisher, seireikhaan, johnhughthom, GH, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
Going to bed now. See you slackers when I wake up! *passes out hugs*
Askthepizzaguy
04-12-2016, 22:18
Doctor really unlikely in this setup so hopefully you guys can see my card and I can apologize to Zack in the dvc shortly.
El Barto
04-12-2016, 22:20
vote: El barto
Why?
vote: GeneralHankerchief
Raith Kemmler
04-12-2016, 22:24
Why was Choxorn killed? He could have been a lynch target in the near future?
Probably because zack said he was cop and zack was v
We.kill gh and Barto and see where that gets us imo
At least 1 potentially 2 dead wolves
Barto.clearly didn't care who got.lynxhed yesterday
GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2016, 01:32
Doctor really unlikely in this setup
PIS?
Vote: ATPG
GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2016, 01:38
Unless I'm missing something Pizza's claimed, over the course of the game, mason and vig, neither of which would theoretically give him enough insight about the game setup to definitively rule out the presence or lack thereof a doctor.
GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2016, 01:41
Doc should self-protect or find the cop and protect that person. I don't intend to sit behind a barrier all game. I've done that plenty of times and I'm particularly disinclined to do it this game for personal reasons.
This is a serious request and should be heeded by such a doctor.
At the start of the previous night phase. What changed?
With my dying breath, I curse Zoidberg, which is probably the name of some piece of furniture.
El Barto
04-13-2016, 03:25
Hello, Mr. Hankerchief, my name's Bart Simpson and I'm voting for you…?
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 06:08
Unless I'm missing something Pizza's claimed, over the course of the game, mason and vig, neither of which would theoretically give him enough insight about the game setup to definitively rule out the presence or lack thereof a doctor.
I'm your best guess for a wolf right now?
Very interesting. Carry on.
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 06:13
Unless I'm missing something Pizza's claimed, over the course of the game, mason and vig, neither of which would theoretically give him enough insight about the game setup to definitively rule out the presence or lack thereof a doctor.
I've also claimed to have peeks
Bulletproof mason vig cop. Seriously, I should be doing better here, dontcha think?
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 06:18
Later on this game, someone will tell me the tale of the pizzaguy that cried wolf
I will give them this look:
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE4Lzc1L0RyLldoby41Mjg5ZC5naWYKcAl0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/571ec44d/6da/Dr.-Who.gif
And say something about how it's always worked out for me in the past.
**MOD ANNOUNCEMENT**
Eldrick will be subbing in for Khaan.
Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (1) - GH
Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, atheotes, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler, edse, Punisher, Eldrick, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 07:36
Much thanks to Eldrick for the sub.
atheotes
04-13-2016, 08:59
Punisher let's be mason buddies this game. I promise I will never vote you and vice-versa.
Unvote
Vote: AdmiralKleenex
Hard claim Mason
Not a fake claim
I am asking for villagers to follow me for day 1
I hard claim it now because I want to illustrate how I know Zack's suggestions have been bad for town.
And because it's also a claim scums don't use. And because it was done under pressure with time left, especially, is ridiculously poor if I were scum.
Town needs an anchor it can rely on and know is town. This claim is too poor to be a scum one. I need village to trust me and help a brother out.
This will never be rescinded and is not a fake claim. If need be I can reveal my partner and have them also hard claim with me.
Don't make me do this, although I did make it obvious.
RIP Zack.
I claim the vig kill that shot Zack. Had to see. My bad Zack.
so you are a mason and a vig...:dizzy2:
Vote: Atpg
you do realise claiming to be a bunch of things doesn't mean that he is mafia
put more than 2 seconds of thought into it. he might be mafia for other things, but making lots of claims doesn't make him mafia and contradictions like that also don't
atheotes
04-13-2016, 09:43
i dont see why not...there are no set rules on how to play.
What do you think? you think he is town? How do you explain all these fabrications?
Hey guys. Brand new to this site.
I'm in another game and modding a game right now, so I don't know what my activity level will be.
I heard that you guys are less active than I'm used to, though, so that will help.
Time to go read and see what's going on here.
atheotes
04-13-2016, 10:46
Welcome to the Org. :bow:
Omg this game setup is hillarious.
The two top candidates for todays lynch (according to me) were killed.
Pizza survived, that means he's scum, or the mafia consider themselves safe from his accusations.
Vote: Visor, not killing Pizza (assuming he's innocent) is something he would do.
I'm hoping it gets easier to read you guys. The snap reads at the beginning and the reasons behind the votes make no sense at all to me.
I liked Visor's big post at the beginning. If it was his own, and not something he copied from someone else, he would be lock clear as village to me. I haven't yet decided if it's still villagery for him to pretend that that is his thought process.
I liked the comment about there already being 2 votes on someone. El Barto looking good for that.
Back to reading.
Ok. I'm gonna try again tomorrow, cuz I'm simply not focusing anymore.
Pizza made a good point about AK (Zack?) and GH not being w/w because of people coming in and noticing the "resistence to vote" line and voting him. I can so see you guys doing that.
Also agree on the point that if GH is town, it might look bad for Zack.
This site has an annoyingly short idle time.
Can I get a list of peoples' nicknames so I know who you guys are talking about?
The only person I know here is Pizza.
Vote: Visor, not killing Pizza (assuming he's innocent) is something he would do.
wat
besides that being one of the dumber things I have seen today, I can name off the top of my head games where I have explicitly killed Pizza N1 as mafia.
1. Recent game where I was mafia with FoxLelay (who was inactive)
2. The Island, where I was mafia with Lewwyn
Punisher
04-13-2016, 13:48
Jeez, I lose internet for about 48 hours and then have to read 500 or so posts?
sheeping visor/pizza to jump on a village wagon, then peace out
it's something scum mat93 (punisher) would definitely do.
Actually agreed, I have done that before and would do it again, although I have strong history of trusting Visor's read on Jarrema as any alignment. Until reading he just said it because of Jarrema voting him. :rtwno:
I do not believe atpg's claim of being mason and vig, that being said, choice of target isn't bad (if not lieing about the vig part), so I'm happy to leave that to resolve later (insert my normal I don't read atpg well post here).
What we have here is a case of people judging me by their standards when they should be judging me by my standards.
We've all made the "lol GH is older than the dinosaurs" type of jokes when nominating me to the championships, but there's truth behind those statements, and you all know I'm pretty stuck in my ways. One of those ways is me taking the first couple of rounds to really warm up in a game and take it all in. Well, that was the case on the .Org for years and years.
It was also the case for a while during the revival starting last year. But at a certain point, this changed. I think it was Visor's Snake Cult game where he brought in a lot of folks from outside. And then, pressing down hard on the gas right from the start became the new normal. People are now demanding reads lists and slapping themselves on the back for getting cases down on Day Friggin One. And that's just not how I operate.
I was able to slide by it for a while, but after the nomination, I know what's in store for me. So I'm trying to adjust. And when people like Zack and you are asking me what I think about the state of the game and making me do stuff I'm far more used to doing (and am far more comfortable with doing) in the endgame on Day Friggin One, of course it's going to sound artificial. Because I have one of two options in these types of scenarios:
Option 1) Come up with cases on people, and have it stand out because the cases are forced.
Option 2) Tell the truth, admit you have no reads, and then come under fire because seeing town/null reads left and right is a classic scumtell, and is, as a matter of fact, what did me in the most recent game before this one.
So yeah, I'm a bit uncomfortable right now, and I'm slightly more than a bit exasperated at this turn of events because I'm trying, but it's obviously not enough.
Now, I could lie to you right now and say that I have a case on somebody right now. That I've done my reads, that I've even attempted to do my reads, and here's what I have down so far. Or, I could tell you the truth and say I have jack squat.
Well, I have jack squat. Right now.
The choice is now up to you to determine how to react to this. This time, you're the one who has two options:
Option 1) Lynch me, wait for me to flip town, and lose my voice for the rest of the game because of the "no talking after death" rule, which I also hate but we'll leave that one for another time.
Option 2) Leave me alive and wait for me to do my own thing at my own pace.
You forget that the times may have changed, but I haven't. Not yet. Judge me on me and not the meta.
Loved this post. I, for one, will let you live, and see what that develops.
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 13:51
Punisher, it's probably okay to just admit we're masons at this point.
Double A
04-13-2016, 15:59
PIS?
Vote: ATPG
Maybe he just looked over Sooh's shoulder.
I'm hoping it gets easier to read you guys. The snap reads at the beginning and the reasons behind the votes make no sense at all to me.
I liked Visor's big post at the beginning. If it was his own, and not something he copied from someone else, he would be lock clear as village to me. I haven't yet decided if it's still villagery for him to pretend that that is his thought process.
I liked the comment about there already being 2 votes on someone. El Barto looking good for that.
Back to reading.
Yeah day 1 is just a bunch of crap. I have no idea why we're on page 20, though.
El Barto
04-13-2016, 16:09
Oh, c'mon, not even I -who am a serial OMGUSer- am voting for Visor. What's your real reason for that, edse?
Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse
Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler, Punisher, Eldrick, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
El Barto
04-13-2016, 17:40
Sooh, khaan ain't playing, it's eldrick now.
Askthepizzaguy
04-13-2016, 17:58
El Barto, meet El drick-o
Sooh, khaan ain't playing, it's eldrick now.
Oh duh! I thought I had changed it in my document as well.
Thanks for letting me know. Fixing immediately.
El Barto
04-13-2016, 18:14
You're welcome. You owe me 20 bazillion kroner.
besides that being one of the dumber things I have seen today, I can name off the top of my head games where I have explicitly killed Pizza N1 as mafia.
1. Recent game where I was mafia with FoxLelay (who was inactive)
2. The Island, where I was mafia with Lewwyn
Yes, but you didn't do it this time.
Oh, c'mon, not even I -who am a serial OMGUSer- am voting for Visor. What's your real reason for that, edse?
The Mafia wants to keep people who make cases alive as long as they don't target them. Pizza, being shepherd delux, is the best example of such person.
You're welcome. You owe me 20 bazillion kroner.
*Contemplates modkilling El Barto*
El Barto
04-13-2016, 21:04
Yes, but you didn't do it this time.
Which makes Visor…?
The Mafia wants to keep people who make cases alive as long as they don't target them. Pizza, being shepherd delux, is the best example of such person.
That statement is so ambiguous that I don't know how to respond.
*Contemplates modkilling El Barto*
This is unnecessary violence. Including damages for assault, the sum is now 23 bazillion kroner.
johnhughthom
04-13-2016, 22:54
Vote: Raith Kemmler
I got nothing. :shrug:
Raith Kemmler
04-14-2016, 02:51
Thread isn't moving. Did the first tucker out everyone?
Vote: Edse
Case on Aspg feels weak and half handed. Also Atheotes to a degree. Aspg might be mafia, but I aint buying these cases yet.
Raith Kemmler
04-14-2016, 02:52
General reads when I'm awake. Also I agree with new guy. Reads are tough in this game.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 02:54
I frankly don't understand the votes on atpg, but then I don't understand his kill claim either.
Raith Kemmler
04-14-2016, 03:00
If Atpg is paranoid town, lying liars lie a lot. Cover for the Vig, throw some sand up to confuse the mafia, kill angling to get more read cred, shenanigans.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 03:30
He's always paranoid regardless of alignment. Anyway, being masons with a vig sounds like too much… but then it doesn't sound like too much for him to claim in someone else's stead. Sometimes his pizzas are flavoured ‘random surprise’.
Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (1) - johnhughthom
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Punisher, Eldrick, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
It's not Pizza's claims that bother me.
It's that he is claiming to have more information about the setup than those claims would provide.
Vote: Pizza
I think that's how you guys do it here.
Also not sure how AK survived the lynch, I was gonna vote him today, but he's the dead.
El Barto, meet El drick-o
El hi o
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 08:28
Just for the record, I am lock clear, so each person voting for me needs to find a second candidate shortly.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 08:29
Just for the record, I am lock clear, so each person voting for me needs to find a second candidate shortly.
If you don't, I always lynch you this game. So do yourself a favor.
Not bluffing this time.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 08:29
You got 12 hours slowpokes.
You aren't lock clear and your threats mean nothing to me.
The only people that are lock clear are those that have already died and are mod confirmed town.
If you don't back up your threat with a vote, I'll just add it to the other lies you have spewed this game.
You hard claimed mason, which hasn't been confirmed. If you are telling the truth, whoever your partner is would be cleared upon your death. The fact that it isn't confirmed is fishy.
Your other claims don't mean as much being you said you wouldn't back down from your mason claim. Any other claims are useless by comparison.
You also claim to have more insight on the setup of the game. How?
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 10:41
You aren't lock clear and your threats mean nothing to me.
The only people that are lock clear are those that have already died and are mod confirmed town.
If you don't back up your threat with a vote, I'll just add it to the other lies you have spewed this game.
Happen to think Khaan was a villager, is the only reason I'm allowing this silliness.
i also think eldrick is a villager because of khaan
its angelshooty, but i don't believe khaan quits a game just because of the potential of GH being lynched if he is mafia. his team bond would override his bond
and if not lolkhaan, i'll just not sign up for games hes in, bloody shameful
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 10:46
i also think eldrick is a villager because of khaan
its angelshooty, but i don't believe khaan quits a game just because of the potential of GH being lynched if he is mafia. his team bond would override his bond
and if not lolkhaan, i'll just not sign up for games hes in, bloody shameful
So GH and atheotes still need to make proper votes.
The vote record is going to be utterly shameful and impossible to sort through later on if they don't.
Visor I would ask you to encourage this vote movement. the data is necessary.
to be clear, i think its ALREADY shitty that he subbed out for stupid reasons
if hes mafia i just dont have the words to describe how shitty (especially if gh is town)
and eldrick seems okay anyway so we'll go with that
edse's argument is terrible
dunno if that makes him mafia though
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 10:46
So GH and atheotes still need to make proper votes.
The vote record is going to be utterly shameful and impossible to sort through later on if they don't.
Visor I would ask you to encourage this vote movement. the data is necessary.
This post is a dead giveaway that I'm a villager.
So GH and atheotes still need to make proper votes.
The vote record is going to be utterly shameful and impossible to sort through later on if they don't.
Visor I would ask you to encourage this vote movement. the data is necessary.
the game is gonna be a town loss because zack died a villager and both of us are probably villagers
and then we're gonna get killed off quick smart
and nobody else is gonna post and then suddenly at lylo some of the townie will realise hey we screwed up
and then we're gonna lose
but sure yeah i guess i'll do something
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 10:47
to be clear, i think its ALREADY shitty that he subbed out for stupid reasons
Yeah it sucks for game integrity but I've stormed out of a game in anger before, twice.
Yeah it sucks for game integrity but I've stormed out of a game in anger before, twice.
yeah but this was about the POTENTIAL of someone being lynched
thats the problem i have with it
town
12. Visor - town
15. Punisher - claimed mason
16. Raith Kemmler - seems to care, town
10. Eldrick ( replacing Seireikhaan) - angleshot himself clear
13. edse - stupid argument, probably town
1. Askthepizzaguy - mason, why not
wolves
8. Double A
4. El Barto
5. atheotes
6. BSmith
7. Al Sipsclar
9. GeneralHankerchief
11. johnhughthom
17. Golden1Knight
maybe move JHT up to town for caring about the vote yesterday despite v/v wagons
its things like that and the whole gold argument that really suck the fun out of games
there should really be a 5 game related post or instant modkill rule on the Org, just to encourage people to actually post SOMETHING
edse Posts 7
atheotes Posts 7
johnhughthom Posts 6
Al Sipsclar Posts 4
Punisher Posts 3
Golden1Knight Posts 2
BSmith 1 or 2 posts idfk
look at this
how am i supposed to know who is town here
i still think takhis is mafia but at least he posts
Vote: atheotes
i would rather lose to a team of posters than a team of lurkers
wagons should be
double a
atheotes
al sips
bsmith
something like that
consistently string up the lurkers to force them to post
atheotes
04-14-2016, 11:02
If you don't, I always lynch you this game. So do yourself a favor.
Not bluffing this time.
thats what you said D1 about your mason claim. then you have also claimed a vig hit.
if you were feeling so strongly about Zack you shouldnt have moved your vote...
atheotes
04-14-2016, 11:03
town
12. Visor - town
15. Punisher - claimed mason
16. Raith Kemmler - seems to care, town
10. Eldrick ( replacing Seireikhaan) - angleshot himself clear
13. edse - stupid argument, probably town
1. Askthepizzaguy - mason, why not
wolves
8. Double A
4. El Barto
5. atheotes
6. BSmith
7. Al Sipsclar
9. GeneralHankerchief
11. johnhughthom
17. Golden1Knight
maybe move JHT up to town for caring about the vote yesterday despite v/v wagons
I asked you a question? you dint care to respond.
You trust Atpg's claim of being mason with a vig ability?
I asked you a question? you dint care to respond.
You trust Atpg's claim of being mason with a vig ability?
he's lying about one
and hes townie about it anyway
trying to draw a kill
atheotes
04-14-2016, 11:17
he's lying about one
and hes townie about it anyway
trying to draw a kill
Seems to me that both of you have more information than what is available in the thread.
To start with i did not believe the mason claim as i thought it was a vanilla set up. But the two night kills tell me otherwise.
ok...may be there is a little credence to what you are saying about drawing a kill. If he is town, the way he is playing is bound to confuse the town more than the scum.
I would like to see his reply on why he switched his vote off Zack.
Seems to me that both of you have more information than what is available in the thread.
wat
both of us have played on sites where fakeclaiming happens a lot in the last few years
i knew as soon as he claimed and he probably knew that i knew that he was lying
its standard practice to lie as vanilla town in that spot, if you think you can pull it off
of course atpg could indeed be a vig and just being blatant about it (and I suspect this actually)
but its not something that should be looked into
ignore the claim focus on the content
Don't base a read on me because of the person I subbed in for. Base it on my content.
If my points on Pizza are bad, talk about them. Explain why you think I'm wrong.
Almost all of the game I have no read on. The other thing that caught my attention was that when Zack was about to be lynched, instead of finding a reason for us to vote someone else, he just left the game. He effectively gave up. I was gonna come after him hard today, but he was killed.
I haven't had any issues with Visor. My only town read ATP.
Like I said earlier, willing to give GH some time to warm up and see where he goes. I liked and respect the post he did about building up slower than usual.
atheotes
04-14-2016, 11:34
wat
both of us have played on sites where fakeclaiming happens a lot in the last few years
i knew as soon as he claimed and he probably knew that i knew that he was lying
its standard practice to lie as vanilla town in that spot, if you think you can pull it off
of course atpg could indeed be a vig and just being blatant about it (and I suspect this actually)
but its not something that should be looked into
ignore the claim focus on the content
you are saying that you believe his mason claim to be false...yet you have Punisher as town for no other reason.
Perhaps you have played with pizza enough to figure his alignment, for me i only know of two villagers. Myself and Eldrick (His thoughts echo mine)
Forgetting the claims, content alone is not enough to consider him town in my view. tbh, Takhs posts pinged me more than anyone elses. But i just do not like the multiple claims combined with shift of vote.
Punisher
04-14-2016, 12:00
15. Punisher - claimed mason
Punisher, it's probably okay to just admit we're masons at this point.
:shrug:
Visor has a point about atpg, culturally different between sites. edse gives horrible reasoning, and considering the low votes today, a vote for atpg is low risk move for scum, so...slight scum lean. Eldrick strong town lean. Takhisis is being Takhisis. Al Sips is being very quiet by his standards, I'm reading the majority of posts made as townie in general. I don't like any of the lynches today so far.
BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Double A
I would vote for Visor for the bs yesterday with Jarrema, but horrible idea in game terms. vote: Al Sips, but could easily switch to another of the above 4. An edse lynch would be a weak case, and IMO would get more info by leaving him alive, and a potential lynch another day.
Punisher, are you claiming to be Pizza's mason buddy?
atheotes
04-14-2016, 12:12
Punsiher, i dont see any reason why you wouldnt want to confirm if you are pizza's mason partner.
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 12:20
So GH and atheotes still need to make proper votes.
You're not going to bully me into changing.
That said, I'm also willing to leave you alive for now because you *are* contributing, hopefully in the future you'll move away from or at least explain the "I'm lock clear" nonsense that is clearly untrue.
Though if your next post in response to this is further affirmation of you being supposedly lock clear, my vote moves right back onto you as I'm kind of tired of it.
Unvote: ATPG
Vote: Golden1Knight
Also let's cut down on the language a bit, I don't mind an isolated instance or two but not in successive posts and not the F-bomb. Use the daisy [:daisy:] if you have to.
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 12:25
Why Golden1Knight?
Three posts in total. One signing up, two of them votes with no extra context whatsoever.
Good reason for a prod. Not a good one for a lynch.
I don't want to see a lynch train happening on this.
How does one ISO on this site?
Day seemed to be a lot of voting for no discernible reason.
Day 1 seemed to be a lot of voting for no discernible reason.
Fixed.
atheotes
04-14-2016, 14:02
Most people have not showed up at all...it sucks.
I am all for lynching an inactive. I will be back before the end of day.
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 14:11
How does one ISO on this site?
On the Gameroom index page, click where it says the number of replies (for example right now is around 628). A new window should pop up listing each individual's post count. Click on the player's post count in question that you want and there you go.
On the Gameroom index page, click where it says the number of replies (for example right now is around 628). A new window should pop up listing each individual's post count. Click on the player's post count in question that you want and there you go.
Cool, thanks. I already figured out the post count thing.
Most people have not showed up at all...it sucks.
I am all for lynching an inactive. I will be back before the end of day.
I'm not. I am adamantly lynching someone because they are inactive cuz if we are wrong, there is no information gained.
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 14:45
Actually wait.
:shrug:
Visor has a point about atpg, culturally different between sites. edse gives horrible reasoning, and considering the low votes today, a vote for atpg is low risk move for scum, so...slight scum lean. Eldrick strong town lean. Takhisis is being Takhisis. Al Sips is being very quiet by his standards, I'm reading the majority of posts made as townie in general. I don't like any of the lynches today so far.
BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Double A
I would vote for Visor for the bs yesterday with Jarrema, but horrible idea in game terms. vote: Al Sips, but could easily switch to another of the above 4. An edse lynch would be a weak case, and IMO would get more info by leaving him alive, and a potential lynch another day.
Unvote: Golden1Knight
Vote: Punisher
Seems weak, got a classic scumslip or two.
i still think takhis is mafia but at least he posts
Tak is the strongest read I have at the moment, but that said it is not all that strong. vote: El Takibarto If you think he is scum then you should vote for him. Lynching an inactive is not usually productive as there is little info to gain and the chances are high that they are town.
I realize I have been contributing to the lack of contribution, but man there is not a lot to go on today. Zack kill is curious as he would easily have been a lynch target today. Choxorn makes sense as the suggestion was made that he was a doctor. Are we certain that there is a vig in play here? I suppose I could see Zack as a good vig target as he was under a lot of suspicion and removing him at night would let us focus on other targets.
Town lean –
Visor
atheotes
Eldrick
Anyone else could be scum in my mind. As for ATPG – not sure what the strategy is behind the multiple (and likely fake) claims. I think atheotes is right that this tactic would generally trip up town more than mafia. I’ve played a lot of mafia but haven’t really seen the fake claim bit work effectively – probably due to it not being used much where I play. What is the rationale behind it?
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 16:57
look at this
how am i supposed to know who is town here
Golden1Knight is.
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 17:04
Golden1Knight is.
Thoughts on Punisher?
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 17:14
Vote analysis. The persons in blue are never getting lynched this game ever, or are already known to be villagers.
ATPG (2) - Visor, Al Sips
AdmiralKleenex (1) - GH
Khaan (1) - ATPG
Punisher (1) - Raith Kemmler
GH (1) - AdmiralKleenex
Visor (1) - Jarema
atheotes (1) - El Barto
-------------------------
ATPG (1) - Khaan
AdmiralKleenex (1) - GH
Khaan (1) - ATPG
Punisher (1) - Raith Kemmler
GH (1) - AdmiralKleenex
Visor (1) - Jarema
atheotes (1) - El Barto
Jarema (4) - Visor, Al Sips, Double A, edse
------------------
ATPG (1) - Khaan
AdmiralKleenex (2) - GH, johnhughthom
Khaan (1) - ATPG
Punisher (1) - Raith Kemmler
GH (1) - AdmiralKleenex
Visor (1) - Jarema
atheotes (1) - El Barto
Jarema (5) - Visor, Al Sips, Double A, edse, Punisher
-------------------
ATPG (1) - Khaan
AdmiralKleenex (2) - GH, johnhughthom
Khaan (1) - ATPG
Punisher (1) - Raith Kemmler
GH (1) - AdmiralKleenex
Visor (1) - Jarema
atheotes (1) - El Barto
Jarema (4) - Visor, Al Sips, edse, Punisher
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
--------------------
AdmiralKleenex (2) - GH, johnhughthom
GH (6) - AdmiralKleenex, Raith Kemmler, El Barto, Golden1Knight, Askthepizzaguy, Choxorn
Visor (1) - Jarema
Jarema (5) - Visor, Al Sips, edse, Punisher, seireikhaan
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
-------------------
AdmiralKleenex (3) - GH, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy
GH (5) - AdmiralKleenex, Raith Kemmler, El Barto, Golden1Knight, Choxorn
Jarema (5) - Visor, Al Sips, edse, Punisher, seireikhaan
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
Choxorn (1) - Jarema
------------------
AdmiralKleenex (7) - GH, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy, Visor, BSmith, Golden1Knight, Jarema
GH (4) - AdmiralKleenex, Raith Kemmler, El Barto, Choxorn
Jarema (4) - Al Sips, edse, Punisher, seireikhaan
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
----------------
AdmiralKleenex (7) - GH, askthepizzaguy, BSmith, Golden1Knight, Jarema, atheotes, Al Sips
GH (2) - Raith Kemmler, El Barto
Jarema (7) - edse, Punisher, seireikhaan, AdmiralKleenex, Visor, johnhughthom, Choxorn
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
---------------------
AdmiralKleenex (6) - BSmith, Golden1Knight, Jarema, atheotes, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler
Choxorn (1) - El Barto
Jarema (9) - edse, Punisher, seireikhaan, AdmiralKleenex, Visor, johnhughthom, Choxorn, GH, askthepizzaguy
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
=======================
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse
--------------------
Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (1) - johnhughthom
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Punisher, Eldrick, askthepizzaguy, Double A
------------------
Votes:
atheotes (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - atheotes, Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (1) - johnhughthom
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Al Sips- (1) Punisher
Punisher- (1) GH
El Barto- BSmith
Not voting: Golden1Knight, Al Sips, askthepizzaguy, Double A
So I need to know the alignments, town/mafia, of several additional persons.
For example, the people in THIS SECTION today:
Raith Kemmler (1) - johnhughthom
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Al Sips- (1) Punisher
Punisher- (1) GH
El Barto- BSmith
Raith, john, Edse, Al Sips, GH, El Barto, BSmith
Have to have a couple wolves in it. So if you're a villager in this section, think about what's going on.
Edse it would be great if you stopped voting for Visor.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 17:15
Thoughts on Punisher?
*shrug*
Punisher is just some player in this game. Reaction seemed villagery.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 17:25
My vote looms over the unfortunate designer furnishings like the sword of Damocles. Seventeen players, and only so many places for the scummos to hide. Perhaps three scummos. If I took five shots randomly, how many scummos could I hit?
Khaan
GH
johnny boy
Zackleeno
Golden1Knight
Well. If I took shots here, I could get into a lot of trouble.
Trollface.jpg
Vote: Khaan
Mason chat:
"Ok, Golden1Knight, this is the breadcrumb I'm using.
Sword = Knight
Seventeen = Where you appear on the player list
If I took shots here, I could get into a lot of trouble = My mason partner's name is on this list
Three clues in one post directly after calling myself lock clear. That's the crumb. You can explain the crumb if I die and you need to prove you are the mason.
Oh, forgot the last one
The other names on that list are informal. Yours is spelled formally, indicating you're different from the others."
Punisher let's be mason buddies this game. I promise I will never vote you and vice-versa.
"This is me deliberately trying to get the mafia to murder Punisher instead of you, Golden1Knight.
I will breadcrumb that later on.
#Reminding myself to do this."
"288 references you, btw.
This should help people understand that Punisher is the ruse, you're the real mason."
Pizza-Golden1Knight real mason team
Tried to draw murder onto Punisher and away from my real partner, but Punisher couldn't confirm he was my mason partner so.
I tried to draw murder away from vigilante because he's more valuable and it would lock clear GK and also possibly get Punisher cleared via murder if he's innocent.
Time to start generating a vote record that can be analyzed. Votes on pizza, Golden, or folks I'm village-reading are pretty bad folks.
It's causing me to abandon the strategy which would have been useful.
If villagers would just stop trying to lynch villagers we'd get somewhere. It's really hard to find the scums when there's so much villager on villager voting. Why I got so pissy yesterday.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 17:38
the game is gonna be a town loss because zack died a villager and both of us are probably villagers
‘Probably’ a villager?
I'm not. I am adamantly lynching someone because they are inactive cuz if we are wrong, there is no information gained.
adamantly against*
+++FREUDIAN SLIP DETECTED +++
So, seireikhaan went berserk when we tried to lynch GH, for whom I am still voting and who hasn't yet explained himself.
Then (post #616)
Like I said earlier, willing to give GH some time to warm up and see where he goes. I liked and respect the post he did about building up slower than usual.
Why the reluctance? Are you two lovers by any chance?
Tak is the strongest read I have at the moment, but that said it is not all that strong. vote: El Takibarto If you think he is scum then you should vote for him.
I don't think I'm scum so I amn't voting for me. Does that help in any way?
El Barto
04-14-2016, 17:40
Argh pizza that acid green font is unreadable.
Golden1Knight
04-14-2016, 17:53
Vote: Raith Kemmler
Pizza-Golden1Knight real mason team
Confirming anyway.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 18:09
This is the apparent tally
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - atheotes; Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
atheotes (1) - Visor
Al Sipsclar (1) - Punisher
Punisher (1) - GeneralHankerchief
El Barto (1) - BSmith
On the one hand, saving atpg seems to be imperative as he's claiming masons with Golden. On the other, what's the case on Raith?
Votes:
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - atheotes, Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Atheotes (1)- Visor
Punisher (1) - GH
El Barto (1) - BSmith
Not voting: BSmith, Al Sips, Punisher, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
3 1/2 hour to go!
El Barto
04-14-2016, 18:53
Where's my 23 bazillion kroner?
Punisher
04-14-2016, 18:58
Punsiher, i dont see any reason why you wouldnt want to confirm if you are pizza's mason partner.
I don't either.
Tried to draw murder onto Punisher and away from my real partner, but Punisher couldn't confirm he was my mason partner so.
You are way too kind ~:rolleyes:
More seriously, I'm not sure why scum would murder me and have you lock clear, rather than killing you, doesn't make much logical sense to me. Also, I am very confused as to how/why I was supposed to go along with it.
On the one hand, saving atpg seems to be imperative as he's claiming masons with Golden. On the other, what's the case on Raith?
Theres a case on Raith?
Not voting: Punisher
vote: Al Sips
El Barto
04-14-2016, 18:59
Oh, that's it.
unvote; vote: Visor(slash)
El Barto
04-14-2016, 19:01
Theres a case on Raith?
I don't know. But atpg's claimed mason is voting for him. Also atpg's being voted by atheotes and Visor takes his vote off atheotes before atheotes can be tied for the lynch. So Visor's playing silly buggers.
mat
vote el barto and lets be done with it
Mason chat:
"Ok, Golden1Knight, this is the breadcrumb I'm using.
Sword = Knight
Seventeen = Where you appear on the player list
If I took shots here, I could get into a lot of trouble = My mason partner's name is on this list
Three clues in one post directly after calling myself lock clear. That's the crumb. You can explain the crumb if I die and you need to prove you are the mason.
Oh, forgot the last one
The other names on that list are informal. Yours is spelled formally, indicating you're different from the others."
"This is me deliberately trying to get the mafia to murder Punisher instead of you, Golden1Knight.
I will breadcrumb that later on.
#Reminding myself to do this."
"288 references you, btw.
This should help people understand that Punisher is the ruse, you're the real mason."
Pizza-Golden1Knight real mason team
Tried to draw murder onto Punisher and away from my real partner, but Punisher couldn't confirm he was my mason partner so.
I tried to draw murder away from vigilante because he's more valuable and it would lock clear GK and also possibly get Punisher cleared via murder if he's innocent.
Time to start generating a vote record that can be analyzed. Votes on pizza, Golden, or folks I'm village-reading are pretty bad folks.
It's causing me to abandon the strategy which would have been useful.
If villagers would just stop trying to lynch villagers we'd get somewhere. It's really hard to find the scums when there's so much villager on villager voting. Why I got so pissy yesterday.
How do you know that Punisher isn't the vig?
the raith vote sucks
the atpg vote sucks
the visor vote sucks
vote el barto
GeneralHankerchief edse
i know you're watching
nut up and vote barto.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 19:15
I'll humour you. unvote; vote:El Barto
why on earth are you self voting
Al Sipsclar
04-14-2016, 19:29
Vote: El Barto. He's too reasonable to be town. Reminds me of ROTSC.
Sorry for inactivity, but I have to go back to work.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 19:31
El Barto just claimed to not be the vig
interesting
Where's my 23 bazillion kroner?
In the forest of plenty, right next to the mountain of disbelief.
Got your vote now, Punisher. I missed it because it was in the middle of a paragraph :)
____________________________
Votes:
ATPG (2) - atheotes, Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse,
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (1) - GH
El Barto (4) - BSmith, Visor, El Barto, Al Sips
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Not voting: BSmith, askthepizzaguy, Double A
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/tur_1460667600.png
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 19:42
El Barto
There's a very real chance I vote with you if you vote for not yourself, not me, not visor, not my mason buddy, not Eldrick
El Barto
04-14-2016, 19:44
why on earth are you self voting
What else do you want me to do? Vote for pizza? He's supposedly town along with Golden. Do you have an alternatibe waggon instead of tunnelling on me as you ave all day
El Barto just claimed to not be the vig
interesting
I never claimed to be a vig in the first place.
El Barto
04-14-2016, 19:44
El Barto
There's a very real chance I vote with you if you vote for not yourself, not me, not visor, not my mason buddy, not Eldrick
Then let's go back to GH who still hasn't explained his behaviour.
unvote; vote: GeneralHankerchief
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 19:46
unvote, vote: Generalhankerchief
atheotes
04-14-2016, 20:10
okay. seems that Pizza is indeed a mason with Golden.
I dont see any solid leads...
unvote; vote: Double A
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse,
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (1) - GH
El Barto (2) - BSmith, Al Sips
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (2) - Visor, atheotes
GH (2) - El Barto, Askthepizzaguy
Not voting: Double A
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Just over 90 minutes to go!
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 20:28
lol that vote count
Double A
04-14-2016, 20:44
sounds good
vote: punisher
El Barto
04-14-2016, 20:46
Five-way rand? Bloody hell.
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse,
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (2) - GH, Double A
El Barto (2) - BSmith, Al Sips
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (2) - Visor, atheotes
GH (2) - El Barto, Askthepizzaguy
Not voting:
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1 hour to go!
Al Sipsclar
04-14-2016, 21:05
I'll continue sheeping Visor and unvote; vote: Double A. Town AA is never that involved in the game.
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Visor (1) - edse,
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (2) - GH, Double A
El Barto (1) - BSmith
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (3) - Visor, atheotes, Al Sips
GH (2) - El Barto, Askthepizzaguy
Not voting:
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45 mins to go
GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2016, 21:31
This would have been a lot cooler-sounding when there was a five-way tie for the lynch, but I'll let fate decide.
:flybye:
30 mins, no change.
Double A voted in post #668
Double A voted in post #668
I know. I noticed a little while ago. It is changed in both vote counts now.
unvote: vote: Punisher can we at least have a little tie.
Askthepizzaguy
04-14-2016, 21:41
unvote, vote: Double A
vetoed.
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (3) - GH, Double A, edse
El Barto (1) - BSmith
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (4) - Visor, atheotes, Al Sips, Askthepizzaguy
GH (1) - El Barto
Not voting:
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15 minutes
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (3) - GH, Double A, edse
El Barto (1) - BSmith
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (4) - Visor, atheotes, Al Sips, Askthepizzaguy
GH (1) - El Barto
Not voting:
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5 minutes to go, no change.
Votes:
ATPG (1) - Eldrick
Raith Kemmler (2) - johnhughthom, Golden1Knight
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler
Punisher (3) - GH, Double A, edse
El Barto (1) - BSmith
Al Sips (1) - Punisher
Double A (4) - Visor, atheotes, Al Sips, Askthepizzaguy
GH (1) - El Barto
That is a lynch!
Another day had gone by, and the furniture would not stop screaming at each other.
"Screaming?" you say, as though furniture can't scream. Well let me tell you a little secret.
You know when your house is all quiet? Eerily quiet like it shouldn't be so quiet?
That's them. That's when they are yelling at each other. Most of the time it's because of trivial things, like the recliner having curled up a corner of the carpet, or the table not respecting the couch's personal space. This time, however, it's different. This time it's serious. It's life or death.
The furniture were pointing out details on one another. Details which, in any other setting, would probably have been seen as a compliment. "Your fabric is too soft." "Your wood is too shiny." "Are you so fancy that you have a serial number?" "Are those knobs actual silver?" "That's a very fine thread count." "How much was your price tag?"
Throughout the day there was one thing the furniture was sure of. If they didn't pick the right piece now their numbers would surely be decimated by morning.
It was decided. Now they hammered away to see what was beneath the surface of this rotten piece of...
Double A has been lynched.
https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/myha82/IKEA%20mafia/firande-bolle-svart_zpsg47cel6p.jpg
He was Firande glass bowl, vanilla town.
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Please remember to send me your night actions by the deadline!
Double A
04-15-2016, 01:59
you're welcome
I didn't realize the dl was today. I usually miss them cuz of my sleep schedule.
I was gonna unvote pizza cuz we finally have mason team conformation, but I guess that doesn't matter now.
What was the reason for double a lynch. I missed it, and the last votes look horrible.
I didn't catch visor's reason.
Atehtos doesn't see any leads and apparently jumps on a random train. That vote was null.
Al sheeps visor. Says Town!AA isn't that involved. Ties vote with punisher. Don't like this vote.
Pizza I think voted because he didn't want the tie between punisher and AA. Why so strongly against punisher's lynch?
atheotes
04-15-2016, 05:56
Dont worry, Pizza and myself are confirmed town. :quiet:
Al Sipsclar
04-15-2016, 05:59
Al sheeps visor. Says Town!AA isn't that involved. Ties vote with punisher. Don't like this vote.
Incorrect. I broke a 5-way tie. Then edse tied again. The Pizza broke the tie again.
You're right. I read it wrong.
Why did you vote AA over the other ones, if your reason was to break the tie?
And edse, why did you tie it up again?
Dont worry, Pizza and myself are confirmed town. :quiet:
How are you confirmed town?
Raith Kemmler
04-15-2016, 06:29
Atheotes and I are totally masons too.
Raith Kemmler
04-15-2016, 06:32
More seriously, could I get a clarification? GK? John? Are we really going to be playing the game of show up and vote without any explanation? Again?
Al Sipsclar
04-15-2016, 06:36
You're right. I read it wrong.
Why did you vote AA over the other ones, if your reason was to break the tie?
I thought AA was scummier. In recent games he was just skating through.
atheotes
04-15-2016, 06:37
How are you confirmed town?
Atheotes and I are totally masons too.
:yes:
I was gonna unvote pizza cuz we finally have mason team conformation, but I guess that doesn't matter now.
We don't have confirmation on that before they both are dead. That mason conversation looks like something scum-Pizza would put together at a whim.
And edse, why did you tie it up again?
More information. ATPG first claimed Punisher was his mason partner and then switched to GoldenKnight when he didn't reply.
But g knight did reply. Which means if they are lying then we can catch one if the other dies.
And if they go unresolved for too long (case for both mason teams), then they are suspect and need to be dealt with.
But right now, lynching them is the wrong option, cuz the teammate will just be picked off at night.
Question to each mason team. Do you believe the other claim?
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 13:18
Basically, if a single wolf flips outside of the two of us, and we're both still alive, either the game is a forced loss if either of us is shot or lynched and one of us is a wolf, or they keep us both alive and hope the vig and the lynch doesn't land on one of the wolves in a very tight quarters situation where no one has any villager credit except claimants.
It's ridiculous for the wolves to shoot outside of mason and vig candidates tonight, and if they aim for the vig and miss, the wolf team very likely loses outright, getting lynched back to back to back.
It's highly inadvisable for the wolf team to not shoot Pizza or Golden tonight. Given I'm trying to solve, it should always be me.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 13:19
Question to each mason team. Do you believe the other claim?
No, it's preposterous and null. And obviously a joke.
I don't think it's wolfy.
How is yours more believable than theirs?
atheotes
04-15-2016, 15:13
How is yours more believable than theirs?
Because they claimed early...
Fourth rule of mafia, claim first :P
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 18:59
How is yours more believable than theirs?
A) It's a serious claim
B) See A
Raith Kemmler
04-15-2016, 21:24
Reads still coming when I feel less beaten down.
Reads still coming when I feel less beaten down.
Famous last words. You could be dead in less than three minutes.
Another restless night for the furniture was coming to a close. A night of bad dreams and odd noises. Something scraping against the floor, lights flickering. Some furniture could have sworn they saw things move, but it might also have been a dream. Bright and early the furniture woke to a loud crash.
johnhughthom has been killed.
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He was Borrby lantern, town 2x commuter.
Punisher has been killed.
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He was Com.p.ar coffee table, vanilla mafia.
Another day, another chance to get those pesky designer pieces out of the way. The furniture braced themselves, and got to work.
No, seriously. Get to work!
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El Barto
04-15-2016, 22:04
I'll continue sheeping Visor and unvote; vote: Double A. Town AA is never that involved in the game.
Ri-ight…
Dont worry, Pizza and myself are confirmed town. :quiet:
No you're not. He is. Probably.
El Barto
04-15-2016, 22:07
Oh, x-post.
vote: GeneralHankerchief
Votes:
GH (1) - El Barto
Not voting: Eldrick, Golden1Knight, Raith Kemmler, GH, edse, BSmith, Visor, atheotes, Al Sips, Askthepizzaguy
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I shot general handkerchief last night, must be a bus driver
Seriously doubting pizza right now, being he tried to say punisher was his mason buddy.
I don't think he's scum for it, but I don't think he's mason.
I'll have to do a reread and see how people interacted with punisher, but that's the one that stands out to me.
I shot general handkerchief last night, must be a bus driver
Isn't commuter a bus driver? He could have swapped himself and ate your shot.
GeneralHankerchief
04-15-2016, 22:55
We have our first guilty flip, let me see what I can get from it.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 22:55
Bus driver needs to claim then. Because that would make GH not a wolf.
GeneralHankerchief
04-15-2016, 23:06
Isn't commuter a bus driver? He could have swapped himself and ate your shot.
According to this (http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Commuter) a Commuter is different and basically self-protects. Assuming I'm correct, john didn't use one of his two commutes tonight.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 23:12
Commuter is essentially impossible to kill while commuting. It's not possible.
The only way is if the wolves literally had the anti-commuter shot I think I invented in aspiring rapper's, and I just doubt there's one of those shots in the game.
If the bus driver is village and switched gh and punisher that doesn't confirm gh is village
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 23:22
If the bus driver is village and switched gh and punisher that doesn't confirm gh is village
Erm....
Hmm.
No clue what I was thinking. I think it's.... GH and Punisher get bus drivered, they can't both be wolves because wolves wouldn't just bus drive each other. But that only works if the bus driver is a wolf, so it's a massive brain fart.
It's been a long day.
Askthepizzaguy
04-15-2016, 23:22
I'm glad I'm a mason, this game has been utter garbage for me. That is legit the one thing saving me from being a certain mislynch.
Erm....
Hmm.
No clue what I was thinking. I think it's.... GH and Punisher get bus drivered, they can't both be wolves because wolves wouldn't just bus drive each other. But that only works if the bus driver is a wolf, so it's a massive brain fart.
It's been a long day.
heh no worries
it's been a long day for about two weeks here
i shot zack as well fyi
i wanted to shoot takhisis but figured clearing up the wagons from d1 would be better in the long run despite my suspiscions that zack was indeed a villager after everything
seems weird to shoot someone you thought was a villager, but i figured i'd do what is best for the village as a whole
El Barto
04-15-2016, 23:46
Takhisis isn't playing in this game.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 00:48
i shot zack as well fyi
i wanted to shoot takhisis but figured clearing up the wagons from d1 would be better in the long run despite my suspiscions that zack was indeed a villager after everything
seems weird to shoot someone you thought was a villager, but i figured i'd do what is best for the village as a whole
I knew as soon as I saw the reveal that there was a vig.
No SK and no mafia hits Zack that night.
REALLY REALLY wanted to draw the kill off of the vig so you'd be alive here.
Utterly baffling that the shot lands on JHT.
IMO there's a town bus driver, and they bus drove one of the masons with jht.
That person should hard claim so we can lock the game.
Unless like, from their perspective, the wolves are always toast today anyway. In which case, they can bus drive you and....
Hmmm.
Gotta be careful how to play that.
You know where I'm going with that but all those kinds of decisions have to be made at the town bus driver level.
Directing that publicly doesn't work.
Al Sipsclar
04-16-2016, 01:30
Vote: El Barto
atheotes
04-16-2016, 05:24
Alright then, Vote: El Barto
Mr Pizza is to blame for my presence.
/in.
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Of course now I can't be mysterious and secretive. It was all part of my grand strategy.
I can never escape. Admittedly it would probably help if I tried.
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Yes. Yes I do. It was completely out of line.
Also, I concur with atpg's read on Visor, and Visor's read on Jarrema (not as strongly as they do).
vote: Jarrema
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Jeez, I lose internet for about 48 hours and then have to read 500 or so posts?
Actually agreed, I have done that before and would do it again, although I have strong history of trusting...
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:shrug:
Visor has a point about atpg, culturally different between sites. edse gives horrible reasoning, and considering the low votes today, a vote for atpg is low risk move for scum,...
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I don't either.
You are way too kind ~:rolleyes:
More seriously, I'm not sure why scum would murder me and have you lock clear, rather than killing you, doesn't make much logical sense to...
Punisher's content in entirety. He only had 6 posts.
Agrees with Visors read on Jarrema and votes him.
Agrees with Visor's point, defending Pizza. Calls edse, reasoning horrible, and calls voting for Pizza a low risk move for scum.
A lot of these posts don't explain very well who he's talking about. I think he's addressing Pizza.
Lots of agreeing with Visor and Pizza. Only issue was with edse's vote. I think there's scum in one of these 3.
atheotes
04-16-2016, 07:59
the result of the fortunate vig hit on Punisher does not look good for pizza.
Though pizza did seem open in requesting Punisher to be his mason partner, he still needs to answer Edse's question.
atheotes
04-16-2016, 08:06
Punisher has been killed.
He was Com.p.ar coffee table, vanilla mafia.
What other kinds of mafia do we have? :inquisitive:
Regarding John, i guess he only had 2 x use of his ability to commute and did not use it last night.
Visor targeting GH and Punisher being hit, looks like we have a village bus driver or mafia with a random bus driver.
So it does not give us any information on GH's alignment.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 08:42
the result of the fortunate vig hit on Punisher does not look good for pizza.
Though pizza did seem open in requesting Punisher to be his mason partner, he still needs to answer Edse's question.
No, I think I'm going to let the self evident nature of my claims stand.
If I get got here based on the info that's in the thread it is an acceptable outcome, because lolmafia games.
Actually, Pizza saying punisher is his mason partner clears him in my book. Cuz if he knew punisher's alignment, he wouldn't have said that imo.
What's the case on El Barto? Why is he getting votes?
Votes:
GH (1) - El Barto
El Barto (2) - Al Sips, atheotes
Not voting: Eldrick, Golden1Knight, Raith Kemmler, GH, edse, BSmith, Visor, Askthepizzaguy
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Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 10:33
What's the case on El Barto? Why is he getting votes?
I think it's purely by virtue of not being clear when there are basically 4 people clear.
I haven't even done the POE yet but if there's a town bus driver and they hard claim unprovoked like right now, I think that would be five and that doesn't leave much room for two remaining woofs.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 10:35
Votes:
GH (1) - El Barto
El Barto (2) - Al Sips, atheotes
Not voting: Eldrick, Golden1Knight, Raith Kemmler, GH, edse, BSmith, Visor, Askthepizzaguy
If people self-clear and not vote the bus driver, it's getting pretty hard to miss.
I'd feel bad that we win basically because playbad and role claim to victory, but it's better than playbad, role claim, still lose.
I'll start a competing train on Vote: edse
Might be a connection between him and punisher with punisher commenting on his vote.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 10:44
Vote: edse
Kinda weird this game. Let's make it more popular.
atheotes
04-16-2016, 11:49
Actually, Pizza saying punisher is his mason partner clears him in my book. Cuz if he knew punisher's alignment, he wouldn't have said that imo.
That is simply WIFOM. When Pizza claimed he may not have known about the existence of a vig.
What does the existence of a vig have to do with it? I don't see pizza doing that as punisher's teammate, because killing one outs the other. We could have gotten the same result from lynching punisher.
GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2016, 13:04
I'll happily join the edse wagon on this one.
Vote: edse
atheotes
04-16-2016, 13:26
What does the existence of a vig have to do with it? I don't see pizza doing that as punisher's teammate, because killing one outs the other. We could have gotten the same result from lynching punisher.
Provided he gets lynched. It would be a gamble which pizza is capable of taking...
Golden1Knight
04-16-2016, 15:49
Vote: edse
What? I tied Punisher for the lynch yesterday but Pizza saved him in the last minutes.
Vote: Visor, his claim doesn't hold water at all.
I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.
Votes:
GH (1) - El Barto
El Barto (2) - Al Sips, atheotes
edse (4) - Eldrick, Askthepizzaguy, GH, Golden1Knight
Visor (1) - edse
Not voting: Raith Kemmler, BSmith, Visor
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Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 17:03
Provided he gets lynched. It would be a gamble which pizza is capable of taking...
I want to be very clear about this, because it's a core principle of my play that won't ever change.
Core principles so far:
1) It is okay for people to guess wrong. Berating them in postgame or insulting them personally is not kosher in my play style.
2) If you are the real cop, faking guilty results on people is extremely extremely bad for the game, as is faking good results.
3) Claiming mason on day one as mafia and having an actual mafia partner verify that you are his mason partner is the single stupidest idea that has ever been conceived of.
I can probably cite you many instances of me laughing at the idea of claiming mason on d1 as mafia, especially under no pressure, time pressure or vote pressure.
And it's come up in many games after that, even if there aren't masons. Pointing out how I've been lynched on d1 as a claimed mason under no time pressure as the single worst thing that village has ever done.
There are some rules I just don't break. Even if they're rules I made for myself.
Askthepizzaguy
04-16-2016, 17:07
What? I tied Punisher for the lynch yesterday but Pizza saved him in the last minutes.
So go into more detail about your thought process in that moment. Why'd you tie up the votes there?
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