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So one of things that seemed strange to me is at the beginning of that day It was sort of set up as a Lewwyn versus Khaan, one of them has to be bussing Jabbz sort of day. I don't understand this at all. Jabbz was just super scummy, it felt pretty clear. I don't see how the two of us voting for him makes us scummy at all, but somehow it seems like that's what everyone is trying to do.
Particularly Winston has been driving this... Partly from Monty's questioning, but particularly this strikes me:
I looked pretty closely at khaan's accusation of Jabbz because I'd caught scummy vibes when skimming in the first place, but on the re-read it doesn't look like bussing to me.
With Lewwyn, I was leaning strong town after the flip, but something caught my attention about him later on. Don't know what it was, but I want to take another look.
He then says he'll take another look at me a few posts later again. But close to 36 hours later:
Lewwyn looks a little worse - mainly just because other people have gained town cred and he hasn't - and I still haven't rechecked that ping I got from his D1. Since he seems unlikely to get lynched today (and I'm bored of reading), I'm going to leave it for now.
khaan looks bad. That D1 vote is the only significant point in his favour. Posts don't feel townie. There's no flow of thought I can follow. And the fact that suspicion is coming from his own faction seems quite damning.
So you still haven't rechecked on me apparently. I just find it a bit mudslinging. Don't just keep throwing that out at me if you're not even going to come at me with anything real.
What really bothers me is that he says the suspicion coming from our faction is damning. I don't suspect Khaan. He has not been posting in our QT very much so there's nothing there for our faction to try and call him on. No one in our faction is voting for him. The only one who's said anything like that is Monty, who I feel is being too secretive and demanding and pissing me off a bit. Basically its Monty.
I don't think the day has really produced too much. I am grateful that there wasn't too much to catch up on, I'm about to fall asleep in my chair here as it is.
Vote Winston
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 15:20
Tally as of post 1001.
seireikhaan: 4 | Csargo (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
Dp101: 3 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942), Montmorency (993)
autolycus: 2 | Choxorn (989), Al Sipsclar (992)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
Lewwyn: 1 | autolycus (996)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Lewwyn (1001)
Round ends:
El Barto
03-16-2017, 15:37
(to those who hate the EOD times
They interfere with lunch, you know.
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 16:30
90 minutes.
I am very very uncomfortable with this vote distribution.
Well if NAC isn't an option.
Unvote, vote: Autolycus
I wish I knew why this game suddenly became so quiet and slow.
Because I'm not posting. :p
Well if NAC isn't an option.
Unvote, vote: Autolycus
NAC ought to be an option. I would switch back to him.
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 17:27
1008
Dp101: 4 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942), Montmorency (993), Lewwyn (1006)
seireikhaan: 4 | Csargo (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
autolycus: 3 | Choxorn (989), Al Sipsclar (992), Snerk (1007)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
Lewwyn: 1 | autolycus (996)
Round ends:
NAC ought to be an option. I would switch back to him.
The flames now tell me that DP is the best option.
unvote, vote DP101
For the night is dark, and full of terrors.
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 17:43
1012
Dp101: 5 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942), Montmorency (993), Lewwyn (1006), Snerk (1012)
seireikhaan: 4 | Csargo (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
autolycus: 2 | Choxorn (989), Al Sipsclar (992)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
Lewwyn: 1 | autolycus (996)
Round ends:
The flames now tell me that DP is the best option.
unvote, vote DP101
For the night is dark, and full of terrors.
Horrible vote.
The flames now tell me that DP is the best option.
unvote, vote DP101
For the night is dark, and full of terrors.
10/10 vote.
Horrible vote.
I'm inclined to agree. But I act as r'hllor commands.
I'm inclined to agree. But I act as r'hllor commands.
You claiming something?
Montmorency
03-16-2017, 17:53
I just told him to vote DP or Khaan. :yes:
Seriously, there are so many scummy options. Everyone other than me who has any sizeable number of votes should swing. Yet you go for me? Have you READ their posts?
People playing factions, actual scum doesn't have to do much to hide.
Sorry, Dp.
Snerk should die for this. Innocently voting a townie to death over a probable scum is insanely scummy. Kill him after I flip.
I wish I had more ability to make people do things, but I've always sucked at that.
Montmorency
03-16-2017, 17:56
Seriously, there are so many scummy options. Everyone other than me who has any sizeable number of votes should swing. Yet you go for me? Have you READ their posts?
Most people are looking pretty good to me today.
In fact, once I flip, just kill everyone who pushed me, all their cases were the most obvious garbage ever.
Most people are looking pretty good to me today.
Then you are lost.
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 18:00
Voting closed.
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 18:24
"How sweet it is to see a man's head cut off!"
~ Guy de Maupassant
https://i.imgur.com/XAwrlrB.jpg
Day 3
After unearthing and disposing of (through various means) three Royalists in a 24-hour period, most of the members of the National Convention seemed keen to - at least for the time being - put the Royalist threat on the backburner and instead turn their efforts toward factional politics. After all, if the Royalists were truly on their way out for good, only one of the four factions could take control of the Revolution, and any complacency on their part meant that one of the other three hated groups would take advantage.
In practice, this generally meant that once a name was put forth as a possible Royalist, there always seemed to be a 3:1 split in opinion, always in favor of that person being a Royalist. This ratio held no matter who who was being accused, with a bizarre overall result of 75% of the entire Convention believing that 75% of the rest of the Convention were Royalists. Obviously, something had to give.
The two leading candidates today were seireikhaan and Dp101. Since the day's proceedings were less chaotic than the previous two, both had their chance to give arguments to their peers about why they should be spared. Most of these seemed to accomplish little, but there was still time in the end for closing statements. At least this sort of procedure was right and proper of a republic, unlike the coin-flipping fiasco from the previous day, some people noted.
khaan, going first, laconically mentioned his role in the Jabbz Incident from two days ago, openly said he had fallen asleep during much of the debate and hadn't really followed along (openly outraging some of the more vocal Convention members), and concluded by saying that statements and speeches made in the private political clubs and not the actual Convention body were, by their nature, difficult to verify and should not be treated with the same scrutiny as those statements that made up the public record.
Dp, whose face was going redder and redder throughout khaan's speech, ascended the podium to reply, but instead of making coherent points mostly just sputtered in outrage from what he had just heard and the direction that the debate was going on. "You seriously cannot be considering me to be a Royalist!" he shouted. "I am a true patriot! My factional comrades will vouch for me! I have done nothing but attempted to defend the Revolution and hunt down the Royalist traitors in our midst!"
This got little response. Growing ever more frustrated, Dp started pointing at his chief accusers. "All you who doubt me are likely traitors! You! Him! All of you! If I survive this vote, I pledge to all of you now that I will not rest until I look into their activities and bring them to justice! If I do not survive, then I highly suggest starting with these - these - these mockeries of our august institution! They lack honor! They lack virtue! They lack patriotism and proper Revolutionary spirit! They lack a good reason to be voting for me! They lack-"
"They lack the most votes," the President said, banging his gavel and bringing the day's proceedings to a conclusion. "By one vote, Dp101 has been named a Royalist and condemned to death. The sentencing will be begin immediately."
As the members of the Convention filed out towards the Place de la Revolution, Dp harangued them the entire way, talking about where they had gone wrong and there were many traitors amongst them. He spoke during the walk over. He spoke during the reading of charges. He spoke all the way up until the guillotine's blade cut through flesh, after which point he didn't have very much to say at all.
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Dp101 has been lynched! He was: Paul Barras, a Militarist!Not a Royalist.
Dp101: 5 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942), Montmorency (993), Lewwyn (1006), Snerk (1012) :skull:
seireikhaan: 4 | Csargo (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
autolycus: 2 | Choxorn (989), Al Sipsclar (992)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
Lewwyn: 1 | autolycus (996)
Not voting: Manasi, NotACop
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It is now Night 3! Please send in your orders.
Night 3 ends Friday, March 17 at 3:00 PM US Eastern time (GMT-4). This drift may or may not continue through Day 4 depending on my schedule.
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Still alive (14):
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack
Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor
BSmith
Askthepizzaguy
Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes
Dp101
GeneralHankerchief
03-16-2017, 18:41
Post 2 updated (this time with the correct date!)
GeneralHankerchief
03-17-2017, 20:00
Night has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
GeneralHankerchief
03-17-2017, 20:30
"By sealing our work with our blood, we may see at least the bright dawn of universal happiness."
~ Maximilien Robespierre
https://i.imgur.com/ZLKgrA4.jpg
Night 3
In many ways, Paris's Temple of Reason, located on the old Île de la Cité on the Seine, symbolized the various turns the Revolution had taken since 1789. Formerly known as the Notre-Dame Cathedral, one of the religious keystones in France, the old building with the famous gargoyles and rose window had taken some damage through the various riots since 1789, and then fell into general neglect and disuse since the various governments of France - including and especially the National Convention - pursued a policy of dechristianization.
The building had seen more use in recent months, ever since the Powers That Be had decided to promote a new belief: The Cult of Reason, designed to keep national unity strong and provide a more enlightened, time-appropriate replacement for Catholicism. Thus, Notre-Dame was repurposed: Out went the old name, all statues of kings (French, Biblical, or otherwise), and many old Christian relics and symbols. In came shrines to Liberty, Philosophy, and Reason; food, as parts of the old cathedral were being used as storage; costumed women, filling the old statuary role (but for Liberty, etc. as opposed to Christian symbolism) for a government that wanted less of an emphasis on statuary and idolatry.
The effect was very off-putting for Renata as she entered the Temple of Reason to calm her feelings. Not pray, you understand, as she was a good Revolutionary citizen who followed her government's directives, but to just... center herself. To reason, if you will, a solution to the mess she found herself in.
Thusfar, the Convention had been quite successful at weeding out and terminating the Royalists that had infiltrated their ranks, disposing of three within a 24-hour period, but they had gotten nothing but false positives since then and she knew that there was at least one still lurking. In addition, the factional game had started. Just as many people predicted, at least some of the factions were using the state of emergency as an excuse and advantage to advance their own particular agenda at the expense of everyone else - among other, more nefarious things.
Renata walked down one of the Temple's side aisles, giving the living statues little more than a single glance. They were weird, yes, but the actors hired to serve as representations of the essences of Liberty, Reason, et al. were good at their jobs, not betraying an inch of movement. She paused before the main altar, to that of Liberty, unsure of the procedure that was to happen next.
"So, uh, do I kneel? Do I pray? Is Liberty actually a divine figure, something that needs my worship? I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention to the Festival of Reason they had here a while back. Of all the Catholic traditions you could have kept, ceremonial wine might not have been the best choice. You know what? I'm going to kneel. It's an altar, there's a statue and important-looking stuff on it. Doesn't seem right otherwise."
She knelt. Even this act seemed to calm her down a bit. "Anyway, still don't know if I'm supposed to worship you or not... you're Liberty, right? Then I could really use some help liberating my paranoia here. I'm doing the right thing, right? I'm on the right course, right? I mean, my faction's taken some hits, we all have, but I'm wondering if the people going after us are truly Royalists or simply just opportunists... maybe you could liberate my confusion on this issue while you're at it. You know, if you're divine and I am supposed to be doing this right... if you're not, then don't worry about it since you can't hear me anyway. God, this is confusing. Er, Liberty, this is confusing. Supreme Being, this is confusing? I hear that Robespierre's trying to start up an alternative, we'll see how that goes..."
As she was rambling on, one of the living statues finally moved, taking off her sandals while still remaining poised on her pedestal. The next action would require silence, and, deep in thought as Renata was, wooden soles still made a sound on a stone floor, especially in a building with excellent acoustics.
"...and that was how we lost that particular battle. Logistics matter, just ask those dead chickens! So the next campaign was later that autumn..."
The statue stepped off her podium and drew closer to Renata, who by this point was pretty deep in... thought? Prayer? She was certainly deep in trouble.
"...so then, later on that night in the Jacobin Club, Mirabeau comes up to me, and man, he is drunk as a skunk, and he starts stumbling over, almost knocks over the bust of Rousseau, and he walks right up to me and says..."
Taking off her sandals was a good choice. The statue made hardly a sound as she approached Renata for the final blow. Luckily, all of her coworkers were, as previously mentioned, very good at their jobs, not betraying an inch of movement no matter what. She walked right up behind Renata.
"I just want what's best for the country, Liberty. We've been through a lot these past years, and the people deserve to settle down. I hope one day I can lie down and rest and not have to worry about factional politics, or foreign invasion, or Royalist counterrevolution, or any of that other nonsense. Lying down peacefully just sounds so nice."
"It'll happen sooner than you think," the statue said, and silently slashed Renata's throat. Blood pooled before the Altar of Liberty in the Temple of Reason, another casualty of the Revolution.
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The meeting of the National Convention was very fraught that day, the agenda being unusually packed. After repeatedly gavelling everybody into order, the President began to speak.
"Right, citoyens, I have a few announcements to make. First of all, independent investigation has made some progress onto the threats that lurk among us. There are as follows:"
NotACop: Girondin
seireikhaan: Montagnard
Montmorency: Montagnard
"None of these people are Royalists. This is an unchallenge-able truth." NAC, khaan, and Monty looked around, somewhat relieved for the time being.
"Now, the second order of business. In addition to your daily suspect vote, there is a piece of legislation on the agenda: The Law of 22 Prarial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_22_Prairial). This will greatly streamline the legal process and give us, the members of the Convention, even more power in dealing with enemies of the realm. This is a simple 'yes' or 'no' vote, so please give it in addition to your normal suspect vote. Any questions, ask me for clarification." Everybody nodded at this, it seemed fairly straightforward, even though the proposed law was oddly light on the specifics.
"Right then, in the name of liberty, equality, and brotherhood, let's get to it!"
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Renata has been killed! She was: Jeanbon Saint-André, a Militarist!Not a Royalist.
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As detailed in the flavor above, you will be voting on the Law of 22 Prarial today in addition to the normal lynch vote. In-game, the Law of 22 Prarial uniformly supplies the factions with additional abilities if the vote passes. The exact nature of these abilities will remain a mystery until when and if the law passes. Voting for this is as follows:
Vote: Yes
Should you change your mind:
Unvote: Yes
Vote: No
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It is now Day 4!
Voting will end Sunday, March 19, at 5:00 PM US Eastern time (GMT-4). Drift may or may not continue depending on my schedule, but we'll probably keep it at this time for a little while.
Feedback will go out shortly.
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Still alive (13):
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack
Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor
BSmith
Askthepizzaguy
Renata
Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes
Dp101
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 20:34
Pretend this was delivered to the Convention before night results were presented.
If my quality as member of the Committee must prevent me from explaining myself with entire independence on what has happened, then I must abdicate it this instant. And after having separated myself from my colleagues, who I esteem and honor (and it’s well-known that I am not prodigal in the sentiment) I will tell my country the necessary truths. The truth is the only weapon that remains in the hands of the intrepid defenders of freedom in order to bring down the perfidious agents of aristocracy. He who seeks to debase, to divide, to paralyze the Convention is an enemy of the fatherland, whether he sits in this hall or is a foreigner. Whether he acts by stupidity or perversity he is of the party of the tyrants who make war upon us. That the tyrants who hate us, their salaried slanderers, the journalists who serve them so well spread those falsehoods to vilify us, this I can conceive. But it’s not up to us to ward off such charges and respond to them. It’s enough that I feel in my heart the strength to defend unto death the cause of the people, which is great and sublime. But this project of debasement exists in the very places where patriotism should reign, in the clubs that claim to be more than patriotic. War is made on the Convention in the persons of all the defenders of freedom. And what is most deplorable is that this cowardly system has partisans here.
For a long time the Committee has put up with a war made on it by several members who are more envious than just. While it is busy day and night with the great interests of the Fatherland, written denunciations, presented with guile, are brought here. Can it then be that the Citizens you have charged with the most difficult functions have lost the title of imperturbable defenders of freedom because they've accepted this burden? Are those who attack them more patriotic because they haven’t received this mark of confidence? Do you claim that those who defended freedom here at the risk of their lives, in the midst of daggers, should be treated like vile protectors of aristocracy? We will brave calumnies and intrigues. But the Convention is attached to the Committee; your glory is tied to the success of those who you have garbed in national confidence.
We are accused of doing nothing and telling less, but has our position been thought on? Eleven armies to direct, the weight of all of Europe to bear; everywhere there are traitors to unmask, emissaries bribed by the gold of foreign powers to foil, unfaithful administrators to watch over, to pursue; everywhere we must level the obstacles and hindrances to the execution of the wisest measures; all the tyrants to combat, all the conspirators to intimidate, those who can almost always be found in a caste once so powerful because of its riches, and even more by its intrigues, these are our functions. Do you believe that without unity in action, without secrecy in its operations, without the certainty of finding support within the Convention that the government could triumph over so many obstacles and so many enemies? No. Only the most extreme ignorance, only the most profound perversity could claim that in such circumstances those who play the cruel game of vilifying those who are at the helm of affairs, of hindering their operations, of slandering their conduct are not enemies of the fatherland. It is not with impunity that you will leave aside the necessary force of opinion. No other proof is necessary than the discussions that have just taken place.
The nobles are ceaselessly declaimed against; it is said that they must be dismissed and, by a strange coincidence, when we execute this great revolutionary measure, and we bring to it all possible consideration, we are denounced. What is then the cause for this denunciation? It’s not a question here of individuals; it’s a question of the fatherland and of principles. I declare this: in the current state of affairs, it is impossible for the Committee to save the public thing. And if I am contested on this I will remind everyone how perfidious, how widespread is the system to vilify and dissolve us; how many paid agents foreigners and internal enemies have to this effect; I will recall that the faction is not dead, that it conspires in the depths of its cells, that the serpents of the Marais have not yet all been crushed.
A member has said that everyone should be able to give his opinion on the operations carried out above the Convention; I don’t disagree. The functions of the Committee are arduous, and it is because of this that it cannot save the fatherland without the Convention. In order to save the fatherland one must have a great deal of character, great virtues. Men are needed who have the courage to propose strong measures, who even dare to attack the pride of individuals. Without a doubt everyone is free to express his opinion about the Committee. But our operation required secrecy in order to be completely successful, the safety of the fatherland demanded it. We took all the necessary measures so that secrecy should be guarded, even if it was only in relation to other armies. And now, at the moment in which we are impatient to know the result of these measures, we are denounced at the National Convention, our work is criticized without knowledge our motives, they want us to divulge the Republic’s secrets, that we give traitors the time to escape; it is hoped to strike with disfavor the new choices, doubtless in order to prevent the reestablishment of confidence.
I thus think that the fatherland is lost if the Committee doesn’t enjoy unlimited confidence, and if it isn’t composed of men who deserve it. I demand that the Committee of Public Safety be renewed. To pass to the order of the day is to open the door to all the misfortunes that I just exposed. The Convention cannot be silent on that which tends to paralyze the government. The explanations that have been given are insufficient. The only result is that the members of the Committee of Public Safety who have spoken seemed to be defending their cause, and you haven’t pronounced. It means giving the advantage to those men who slandered it, not always here, but secretly, in a way all the more perfidious for having seemed to applaud it before you when it made its reports.
The men who perpetually declaim, whether here or elsewhere, against those men who are at the head of the government have themselves given proof of lack of civisme and baseness. Why then do they want to debase us? Which of our acts have deserved this ignominy? I know that we cannot flatter ourselves that we have attained perfection. But when one must support a republic surrounded by enemies, arm reason in favor of freedom, destroy prejudices, render void individual efforts against the public interest, moral and physical forces are necessary that nature has perhaps refused both to those who denounce us and those we combat. The Committee has earned the hatred of kings and rascals; if you don’t believe in its zeal, in the services it has rendered to the public thing, smash this instrument. But before doing so, examine the circumstances in which you find yourselves. Those who denounce us have themselves been denounced to the committee. From the accusers they are today, they are going to become the accused. But who are these men who rise up against the conduct of the Committee, who in this session have worsened your reverses in order to worsen their accusations?
From all this let us deduce a great truth: the characteristic of popular government is confidence in the people and severity towards itself. Citizens, I promised you the whole truth and I'm going to tell it. This might seem harsh, but what is harsher still for a patriot is that for two years, 100,000 men have been killed by treason or weakness; it is weakness before traitors that harms us. We are tender towards the most criminal men, towards those who deliver the fatherland to the enemy’s steel, those both those who have rejected freedom as a personal calamity and those who have embraced the revolution as a career and the Republic as prey. Without a doubt, if such men manage to prove that the Committee isn’t composed of good men, then liberty is lost, for it will doubtless not be to them that enlightened opinion will give its confidence and hand over the reins of government! And don’t think that it is my intention to render imputation for imputation. Jep commits to never dividing the patriots, but I don’t include among the patriots those who only wear the mask. Today we will unmask the conduct of another traitor who has here been an artisan of discord and dissension, but before that -
I will indicate those heroic deputies whose talents and patriotism must be recognized by all now present...NotaCop, Seireikhaan, and Montmorency !!
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 20:37
But the Royalists have struck us a foul blow in slaying one most virtuous among us. Renata shall be avenged!
Vote: Yes
GeneralHankerchief
03-17-2017, 20:40
Addendum to yes/no vote rules: If you unvote without specifying what you're unvoting (the player name or the yes/no), I will automatically default to you unvoting a player. If you want to unvote your yes/no, you must specify this.
GeneralHankerchief
03-17-2017, 20:42
In addition, Post 2 has been updated.
seireikhaan
03-17-2017, 21:05
Vote: Yes
'Sup
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 21:11
*tears up reads list*
*feels stupid*
*expects to be lynched*
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 21:13
Really did not see all three of those coming up clean.
Need to look more closely at my own faction to see how we got here.
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 21:16
Winston, did you kill Renata?
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 21:18
Nope.
that is why auto had to live dorks
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 21:52
Everyone in our faction knew the results were coming today, provided Autolycus did not die.
As I understand it, because this was a faction power, he could not prevent it from taking its course.
Autolycus originally suggested Arakhor for the job, and proposed the following targets: Kage, khaan, BSmith, Renata, Monty/Dp101.
Zack then suggested Autolycus for the job, proposed NAC, Monstr, Kage, khaan, Monty, and submitted those as orders.
Barto was absent throughout, and my (Sooh's) only contribution was a minor query about how the power worked (prior to any discussion of how to use it).
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 21:55
As I understand it, because this was a faction power, he could not prevent it from taking its course.
Actually, I'm not clear whether he/we could have stopped it, but it would have to have been done in the qt.
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 21:55
It's gonna be a Populist. Auto didn't screw up the job, but his original picks contained only one scum - he's not clear.
Vote: auto
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 22:04
Auto's played this really well in the qt if he is a royal.
There was one thing last night, though: he expressed a hope that nobody vig him, saying nothing about the prospect of the royalists killing him.
Well I'm back on vote:NotACop.
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 22:08
Well I'm back on vote:NotACop.
:laugh4:
:laugh4:
Surely you're not saying this is a bad vote????
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 22:11
Surely you're not saying this is a bad vote????
He's confirmed town.
I'm willing to switch to Khan or Monty though.
Renata is always an option too.
Actually reading through GM updates are for the weak and feeble minded. I work purely on intuition. Is never fails me.
unvote, vote: Al Sipsclair
Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.
Two days in a row Zack, you must feel pretty strongly. Both of my top suspects are town apparently, so that just proves how bad I really am...
There was one thing last night, though: he expressed a hope that nobody vig him, saying nothing about the prospect of the royalists killing him.
I don't really think that says much either way about him, if he's town, he could be more afraid of being vigged because he'd be thinking "a lot of people suspect me and think I'm scummy, I don't think the Royalists will kill me because I'm lynchbait."
Really, if he's not, but someone else in your faction is and they knew about the scan, why kill Auto? Even if it stops the scan, the Royalists killing Auto just heavily indicates that they knew what he was up to, which would make you and El Barto look even worse than you already do.
Assuming at least one of the Populists is a Royalist and they knew about Autolycus's scan, I'd expect them to back the seireikhaan wagon over the Dp wagon yesterday, because they'd know that khaan is about to be confirmed town and they'd want to get him lynched before that happens. I'll give El Barto a little bit of town cred for that, but just a little, because I'm not really sure how active he actually is. Same with Autolycus. Winston did vote khaan, which makes him look a little bit worse.
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 23:00
At this point a scum - Csargo, presumably - in Renata's group would not kill Renata, as it would only be to their own detriment in the Convention. Csargo's primary defense against the lynch was Renata.
This night, Llewyn jailed me and Khaan jailed Snerk. As Khaan is town, Snerk must indeed have been jailed, which means he at least could not have killed Renata.
The overwhelming probability is that at least one scum is in the Populist faction, which has neither lost nor killed any scum, unlike the other factions. And auto, Barto, and Winston/Sooh were all off-wagon on D1. Al Sipsclar, Choxorn, and Csargo were also off-wagon, but they have individual or factional redeeming factors. Giving auto and Barto a flat benefit-of-the-doubt for QT reasons (which Al Sipsclar would receive by the same token), Winston should be brought down today. Did anyone else catch the buddying toward me yesterday? As soon as he wasn't being suspected as much went right into demure and friendly mode.
Unvote; Vote: Winston
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 23:04
~:rolleyes:
It's a shame because his entry into the game was so glorious. unvote, vote: Winston
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 23:20
I have no idea how to defend myself here.
My accusers are town, and their reasons are fair.
But I'm not a royalist.
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 23:37
For reference, here are your earlier lists. You feel better about town-auto than you did a day ago?
I've scanned the whole thread, but only read properly up to post 585.
I'll read the rest a bit later, but here's where my reads are at:
Renata - town or wtf
Zack - town or wtf
Manasi - very townie
khaan - seems safe
Lewwyn - check this again
Dp101 - check this again
chox - post 556, 558 etc look townie
Al Sips - post 558 pizza gives town reason
Snerk - post 574 monty gives town reason, post 582 renata gives town reason
Barto - post 582 renata gives town reason
Auto - getting towncred from others, not clear on reasons
Monty - ditto
NAC - probable scum
Csargo - probable scum
Caught up.
Understand better how Monty was thinking when we talked, and he generally looks very townie.
Csargo also looks better than before. A long way from clear, but giving a decent impression of solving intent if scum.
Barto isn't vibing scummy to me (by his standards). I'm a little wary of taking Monstr's willingness to vig him to be in any way clearing, given that both of them were fairly likely vig targets, but it's hard to judge without seeing the actual exchange.
Snerk looks good on tone. Neither seems like he's trying too hard, nor that he's lacking in morale. Combined with the qt evidence from two separate angles, he's safely in the good pile.
If chox is scum, this is a masterclass of fooling my tone reads.
Lewwyn looks a little worse - mainly just because other people have gained town cred and he hasn't - and I still haven't rechecked that ping I got from his D1. Since he seems unlikely to get lynched today (and I'm bored of reading), I'm going to leave it for now.
khaan looks bad. That D1 vote is the only significant point in his favour. Posts don't feel townie. There's no flow of thought I can follow. And the fact that suspicion is coming from his own faction seems quite damning.
NAC, who has no town points at all by my reckoning, is the only serious alternative to khaan at this stage. Didn't like the reads list in 657 at all. Felt forced and fluffy. Absence so far today is extremely unhelpful. Obviously RL is RL, but it's no stretch to imagine how this game state might leave a royalist NAC lacking motivation to post.
I guess none of you is even going to pretend to hunt Royalists now.
Winston Hughes
03-17-2017, 23:40
No, he looks much worse.
Montmorency
03-17-2017, 23:40
I guess none of you is even going to pretend to hunt Royalists now.
Zack, your faction is up to its ears in scum until proven otherwise.
Zack, your faction is up to its ears in scum until proven otherwise.
Not Winston.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 00:08
People who voted auto over the course of D2: Renata, Snerk, Csargo
People who voted Barto over the course of D2: Zack, NAC, Lewwyn, Manasi, DP, atheotes
Auto is also voted by Choxorn, Al Sipsclar, and Snerk on D3. Auto has voted Csargo multiple times.
If Winston is passed up, the alternative should be auto for both his odd performance and for potential spew. Hopefully Barto will actually do something, at last.
Vote: Yes ????????????????????????????????????????????
Also did Snerk say Renata was a good vote?
Al Sipsclar
03-18-2017, 00:38
Vote: yes
Vote: Auto
Would be ok with Barto, Csargo or even Winston, though I'm really enjoying reading his posts.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 01:08
Unvote; Vote: auto
El Barto
03-18-2017, 02:08
I don't really think that says much either way about him, if he's town, he could be more afraid of being vigged because he'd be thinking "a lot of people suspect me and think I'm scummy, I don't think the Royalists will kill me because I'm lynchbait."
Really, if he's not, but someone else in your faction is and they knew about the scan, why kill Auto? Even if it stops the scan, the Royalists killing Auto just heavily indicates that they knew what he was up to, which would make you and El Barto look even worse than you already do.
Whoa, remember that when I look bad I'm town.
Anybody with access to the QT (which, btw, Citoyen Foulard has warned can be infiltrated by the Royalists) can see that we activated an ability.
If Winston is passed up, the alternative should be auto for both his odd performance and for potential spew. Hopefully Barto will actually do something, at last.
Let's not get our hopes up by too much.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 02:14
Whoa, remember that when I look bad I'm town.
More often than not you get quickly pounced on and revealed.
El Barto
03-18-2017, 02:18
More often than not you get quickly pounced on and revealed.
If you want to go for what the MUites call ‘spew’, then prepare to be unpleasantly disappointed.
autolycus
03-18-2017, 02:51
I think vote: El Barto is the more likely scum. He made a comment about NAC in our QT last night that was frankly just bizarre, when we were getting results back on him this morning.
GeneralHankerchief
03-18-2017, 03:06
Announcement:
Regarding the Law of 22 Prarial/Yes or No vote, after some thought, I've decided to give you guys full disclosure on what you're voting for or against.
If this vote passes, each faction will receive one additional factional vig and protection - however, it can be used for Night 4 and Night 4 only. Use it or lose it.
Post 2 will be updated with this information.
El Barto
03-18-2017, 03:18
I think vote: El Barto is the more likely scum. He made a comment about NAC in our QT last night that was frankly just bizarre, when we were getting results back on him this morning.
I made a comment about how I felt about him at the time.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 03:21
And what's up with Manasi disappearing from the thread since shooting Arakhor on D2?
El Barto
03-18-2017, 03:30
Vote: Yes ????????????????????????????????????????????
Also did Snerk say Renata was a good vote?
Manasi posted that three hours ago, Monty.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 03:39
Manasi posted that three hours ago, Monty.
You would understand, if you weren't scum.
All her posts since EOD2:
Yeah Sooh posted a few times iirc.
I'd feel more comfortable with Snerk f w i w .
But I'm not gonna be around super often today just because exam etc.
SHEEP ME ZACK
Story of my life.
I actually kinda forgot I was playing this oops.
I'll be back ITT in like 10 mintues brb.
I lied.
NOW I'm here.
Vote: Yes ????????????????????????????????????????????
Also did Snerk say Renata was a good vote?
El Barto
03-18-2017, 04:04
Call her out on that, but Manasi's not posting much more rarely than I am (well, except these few posts in these hours for me).
And no, I amn't scum. Drop that line already.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 04:06
Senior Guy, it's odd because she was the 2nd-most prolific poster for those first two days.
Senior Guy, it's odd because she was the 2nd-most prolific poster for those first two days.
I'm heeeeeeeeere.
The site I play on mostly has really high volume, so I tried to play like that the first two days since it's what I'm used to. Now that I realized games on here are insanely slow I just kinda read the thread and only post every now and then because it just seems like what goes on here and I odn't want to like spam or post stuff that nobody will read anyway.
Honestly the most likely scum is someone who voted for khaan and had knowledge that khaan was in the process of being scanned. That would be Winston right? Why did you vote for khaan if you knew he was being scanned? Why would you deliberately limit the amount of information the town would get?
Vote: Winston
Winston Hughes
03-18-2017, 12:07
I thought khaan was scum, and figured I could prove my own towniness by trying to lynch him, thus improving my faction's otherwise remote chances of victory (remote because Autolycus and Barto were both looking like lynch/vig-bait too).
Frankly, if I knew both khaan and NAC were going to show up town, it would have been utterly moronic to call it a straight choice between them as I did.
Winston Hughes
03-18-2017, 12:08
Why did you vote DP101, btw? As I recall, you'd previously said he looked townie.
Also, why are you ignoring Zack vouching for me?
Winston Hughes
03-18-2017, 12:29
vote: Autolycus
Just by process of elimination, it seems like either he or Barto has to be scum at this point, and the evidence points more strongly his way.
For one thing, he argued the night before last that we should cash in the investigation early, which would only have revealed the targets' factions, and not their royalist sympathies.
For another thing, he's been posting much more in the qt than in the thread, which is not true of Barto.
There's also Auto's accusation of Barto, referencing a weird comment about NAC last night, which looks to me more like Barto not following the game very closely; by contrast Auto himself seems to have been following things very carefully.
And, perhaps most importantly, if Barto was scum he could just have shot Auto last night. Yes, it would have made him a suspect, but he's a suspect anyway, and I would judge it the smarter move provided he wasn't the last remaining royalist, given that it would keep NAC and khaan firmly in the poe (actually, they'd look even worse than before) and maybe even keep Monty on the table for the latter stages.
Winston Hughes
03-18-2017, 12:30
Oh, and vote: Yes
GeneralHankerchief
03-18-2017, 13:48
Tally as of post 1092.
autolycus: 3 | Al Sipsclar (1072), Montmorency (1073), Winston Hughes (1091)
Winston Hughes: 2 | Snerk (1063), Lewwyn (1088)
El Barto: 2 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078)
Montmorency: 1 | Zack (1061)
Yes vote with a commanding lead.
Round ends:
Why did you vote DP101, btw? As I recall, you'd previously said he looked townie.
Also, why are you ignoring Zack vouching for me?
It came down to DP vs. Khaan. I did not think khaan was scum and he was in my faction so I chose him over DP.
I'm not ignoring, but why should I believe him when there is no way he can be 100% of your innocence? I would have kept my vote on you yesterday if there had been a chance of you making it to the block.
I thought khaan was scum, and figured I could prove my own towniness by trying to lynch him, thus improving my faction's otherwise remote chances of victory (remote because Autolycus and Barto were both looking like lynch/vig-bait too).
Frankly, if I knew both khaan and NAC were going to show up town, it would have been utterly moronic to call it a straight choice between them as I did.
Hmmmm... I still feel like that's a mistake when you know you're getting information the very next day. A desperate wolf might be trying to make a "crazy" play that a wolf might never do.
Unvote; Vote Autolycus
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 22:50
Manasi, Csargo, what are you talking about in QT?
I'm ride or die with Winston until the ends of the earth btw.
I've had my suspicions about Auto but wanted the scan results obviously.
I've also had my suspicions about Barto. This is exactly how I remember him playing when I was recently scum with him, rarely posting and when he does only doing so in non sequiturs. He at least tries as town.
But Winston is purer than my meth lab.
I'm heeeeeeeeere.
The site I play on mostly has really high volume, so I tried to play like that the first two days since it's what I'm used to. Now that I realized games on here are insanely slow I just kinda read the thread and only post every now and then because it just seems like what goes on here and I odn't want to like spam or post stuff that nobody will read anyway.
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT1XGESDlxj0GwoDRe/giphy-downsized-large.gif
The one thing giving me pause on auto is that he was the first person to suggest targets for the scan, and I'm not sure if he'd be that bold as a wolf. That said, i didn't really care for his list and some of the choices were odd (eg renata).
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 23:12
<gif>
I like the guy next to him rolling his eyes at the end.
So what are we supposed to do with these vigs we're voting for, huh?
Vote: No Because I'm unique.
Looks like the noose is heading Auto's way. C'est bon. But Winston, Auto or Barto, don't really care as long as the lynch is in that group.
I like the guy next to him rolling his eyes at the end.
So what are we supposed to do with these vigs we're voting for, huh?
Depends on the flip.
Montmorency
03-18-2017, 23:41
Vote: No Because I'm unique.
Looks like the noose is heading Auto's way. C'est bon. But Winston, Auto or Barto, don't really care as long as the lynch is in that group.
Depends on the flip.
Go on.
Well should Auto flip town then Winston and Barto doesn't exactly become any less vig-worthy.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 00:24
I'll be transferring my data over to a new hard drive in the next few hours, so apologies if I go AWOL for a while in case things go wrong.
autolycus
03-19-2017, 02:36
It looks like I'm going to face the guillotine today, which I'm actually ok with, because if El Barto or Winston is the last scum left and we lynch them, the Montagnards triumph (4-3-3-2).
Accordingly, stipulating that I'm going to be lynched, and stipulating that I don't flip Royalist, which I know is the case, here is my proposal for how to restore balance tonight (and hopefully wipe out the Royalists):
Montagnards: Kill El Barto or Winston, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect one of your guaranteed innocents.
Populists: Kill choxorn or al sipsclar, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect Zack ( I take him as guaranteed innocent)
Militarists: Kill Snerk, protect one of your own.
Girondins: Kill Lewwyn, protect NAC.
If this goes as planned, this restores the 2-2-2-2 balance, and eliminates four potential scum. If that finishes the Royalists, everybody wins(except whichever team the Royalists kill from, assuming they succeed), since we're allowed to tie at 2.
On the kills, any deviation only strengthens another team. If someone deviates on the protection, they WILL be lynched the next day, if the game doesn't end, and that team will have a target on their back.
Thoughts?
Oh,yes, and vote:Yes
El Barto
03-19-2017, 03:01
So all the Royalists vote: Yes, good, that's cleared.
I'll now read the unbolded parts of the thread.
El Barto
03-19-2017, 03:05
Minus Snerk, that is.
vote: Autolycus, he's a better lynch than me or Winston.
Al Sipsclar
03-19-2017, 04:29
Hmm, vote: El Barto
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 04:53
It looks like I'm going to face the guillotine today, which I'm actually ok with, because if El Barto or Winston is the last scum left and we lynch them, the Montagnards triumph (4-3-3-2).
Accordingly, stipulating that I'm going to be lynched, and stipulating that I don't flip Royalist, which I know is the case, here is my proposal for how to restore balance tonight (and hopefully wipe out the Royalists):
Montagnards: Kill El Barto or Winston, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect one of your guaranteed innocents.
Populists: Kill choxorn or al sipsclar, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect Zack ( I take him as guaranteed innocent)
Militarists: Kill Snerk, protect one of your own.
Girondins: Kill Lewwyn, protect NAC.
If this goes as planned, this restores the 2-2-2-2 balance, and eliminates four potential scum. If that finishes the Royalists, everybody wins(except whichever team the Royalists kill from, assuming they succeed), since we're allowed to tie at 2.
On the kills, any deviation only strengthens another team. If someone deviates on the protection, they WILL be lynched the next day, if the game doesn't end, and that team will have a target on their back.
Thoughts?
Oh,yes, and vote:Yes
4-way tie is a nice goal, but Zack riding with Winston makes it difficult, and Militarists don't need special protection from kills, vigs, or lynches.
Csargo and Manasi, do you have anything to report on QT? Do you have any particular special ability left other than vig? Who are you not considering for the vig tonight?
seireikhaan
03-19-2017, 11:29
Vote: El Barto
I kinda doubt winston is mafia, just from tone. Not really in love with an autolycus lynch either. Fine with Barto walking the plank.
Winston Hughes
03-19-2017, 11:46
I'm looking at her ISO, as well as the events around the wagons on her and Jabbz, and wondering if Manasi could actually be scum here.
I mean, if we were prepared to accept that khaan or Lewwyn might have been bussing when they voted Jabbz, then why not accept that Jabbz might have been bussing when he voted Manasi?
I note that Manasi did not respond in kind - even as Zack stuck his vote on Jabbz in her defence - until much later on, by which time their two wagons were the only game in town with the deadline looming, and the failure to self-pres would look deeply suspect (as Jabbz, being the host of our previous game here, would know only too well).
And then I'm asking myself where's the scum on the Manasi wagon?
Jabbz: 8 | Lewwyn (233), seireikhaan (289), Zack (393), Fenn (442), Renata (445), Manasi (448), ATPG (453), Dp101 (457) :skull:
Manasi: 6 | NotACop (112), Arakhor (115), Jabbz (392), BSmith (416), Logic (419), Snerk (443)
BSmith: 3 | Al Sipsclar (136), autolycus (287), Kagemusha (436)
Dp101: 1 | Montmorency (248)
Csargo: 1 | Choxorn (310)
atheotes: 1 | El Barto (146)
Sooh: 1 | Monstrdude (151)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 | atheotes (216)
No Lynch: 1 | Csargo (388)
Not voting: 1 | Sooh
Snerk is the only possibility there, and while he's by no means clear, I'd say that all things considered he looks a good deal less scummy than Manasi at this point.
And look at Kage's vote there as well. With Jabbz, Manasi and BSmith in the frame, he votes BSmith right when Manasi is picking up steam.
I think Manasi is very comfortable shitposting as either alignment, but looking at her ISO here I'm not seeing much - if any - evidence of townie thought process or genuine solving.
And then there's her quietude since D2, including on D3 with her weird pop-in followed by her immediate disappearance again after I tried to engage her:
I lied.
NOW I'm here.
Awww. Just when I'm about to hit the sack.
Do you think I'm scum?
As some of you know, I love asking this question when I'm a townie in the poe. The main reason is that a good, reasoned answer in either direction helps me to identify a townie thought process. But, it also has a side benefit of being the kind of direct question that can make scum feel quite uncomfortable.
Simply disappearing after being asked, when you've literally only just reappeared after a long absence, does not look good at all.
Winston Hughes
03-19-2017, 11:47
Someone tell me why I'm wrong here.
Winston Hughes
03-19-2017, 12:02
If Auto is scum here - which circumstantial evidence does point towards - his faking of tone and thought-flow has been exceptional.
And if this 'content to be lynched' thing is really just an attempt to dodge the lynch, then it's remarkably well composed.
Also, as Zack said, for a scumbag he's been more willing than necessary to stick his neck out for no obvious gain.
autolycus
03-19-2017, 12:12
4-way tie is a nice goal, but Zack riding with Winston makes it difficult, and Militarists don't need special protection from kills, vigs, or lynches.
Well, my proposal doesn't necessarily end the game, but it puts us in decent shape. Tomorrow, we can absolutely lynch a Militarist, if that's where the top suspect is. I certainly wouldn't object if the Montagnards choose to vig a Militarist. After all, it could mean a populist victory (3-2-2-1).
Winston Hughes
03-19-2017, 12:14
unvote; vote: Manasi
It's the psychology.
People are treating her as lock clear based on the Jabbz bus, and she knows all she has to do is not change their minds.
But because her position wrt to people suspecting her can only get worse by her actions, she's locked up and is afraid to say anything.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 13:17
Tally as of post 1118.
El Barto: 4 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113)
autolycus: 3 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110)
Montmorency: 1 | Zack (1061)
Winston Hughes: 1| Snerk (1063)
Manasi: 1 | Winston Hughes (1118)
Yes passes with a comfortable margin.
Round ends:
Note: I will be making the final changeover to a new hard drive on my machine in the next few hours. Hopefully this will go well and not impact anything, but worst case scenario I'll be out of contact for EOD. Will phonepost if I have to, rip me if so.
autolycus
03-19-2017, 13:57
My proposal also holds if El Barto is lynched and comes up Innocent, although I understand that means you'll all be less trusting of my proposal.
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 17:19
Zack
Winston Hughes
It's possible that, like in the Jabbz game, we saw a double-wagon on scum, which encouraged a couple of scum at least to stay off either of those wagons for misdirection's sake.
It definitely appears that Renata's killer in the writeup was female, and Manasi is the only female left playing that I know of - more to the point, compared to a scum Csargo a scum Manasi would not considerably worsen her own position by killing Renata, compared to the gain in killing a lock townie.
My preference today is to lynch auto, but I would accept Barto - doesn't make auto clear either way, though.
My proposal is that we double-tap Manasi with our vigs. The Populists contribute one, the Montagnards contribute the other.
autolycus
03-19-2017, 17:59
Either way? I think a lynch of me clears me pretty decisively, once I come up clean!
Vote:autolycus
Vote:Yes
Don't think Manasi killed Renata, actually I'm pretty positive she didn't. Also, it's hilarious that you're using the write-up to make an argument...
I'm voting purely because monstrdude said El Barto would be a good vig target...
Zack
Winston Hughes
It's possible that, like in the Jabbz game, we saw a double-wagon on scum, which encouraged a couple of scum at least to stay off either of those wagons for misdirection's sake.
It definitely appears that Renata's killer in the writeup was female, and Manasi is the only female left playing that I know of - more to the point, compared to a scum Csargo a scum Manasi would not considerably worsen her own position by killing Renata, compared to the gain in killing a lock townie.
My preference today is to lynch auto, but I would accept Barto - doesn't make auto clear either way, though.
My proposal is that we double-tap Manasi with our vigs. The Populists contribute one, the Montagnards contribute the other.
I like Winston's case on Manasi, but are you serious with the writeup thing? cmon man
Also, don't know why Monty is so interested in our qt. Our faction has been basically butchered by vigs and the lynch of Dp101. I don't think Manasi is scum at this point for what it's worth.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 18:44
All went well with the transfer, should be around as usual.
Tally as of post 1125.
autolycus: 4 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110), Csargo (1123)
El Barto: 4 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113)
Montmorency: 1 | Zack (1061)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Snerk (1063)
Manasi: 1 | Winston Hughes (1118)
Yes passes by a large margin.
Round ends:
I like Winston's case on Manasi, but are you serious with the writeup thing? cmon man
Lmao what.
Okay two things.
What.
People read flavor for reads?
Also no, I didn't kill Renata.
Our faction only had scum reads on two/three ish people ITT and I thought 2/3 were villagers, and since most people were gone I took the shot on the person I didn't have a strong read on.
I can understand the line of thought of two separate factions being wagoned EoD1, right? One flipping scum makes it pretty simply put that the other (meeeeeeeee) isn't a Royalist. I can't tell you how many Royalists are left in the game, but I know that my faction + like 3 other people are clean.
Also, don't know why Monty is so interested in our qt. Our faction has been basically butchered by vigs and the lynch of Dp101. I don't think Manasi is scum at this point for what it's worth.
Meh, it's not worth much but I don't really pop in/out nearly as much as scum. I try to stay active ITT as much as I can in order to make sure nothing goes horrendously wrong.
(Obviously this game I haven't done that... soz DP)
But that's all self meta stuff.
Vote:autolycus
Vote:Yes
Don't think Manasi killed Renata, actually I'm pretty positive she didn't. Also, it's hilarious that you're using the write-up to make an argument...
I'm voting purely because monstrdude said El Barto would be a good vig target...
Monstr was a Royalist tho.
Light bussing ITG.
Meh, it's not worth much but I don't really pop in/out nearly as much as scum.
you definitely did in the multiball game soab
Manasi, Csargo, what are you talking about in QT?
I think GH has more posts in our QT than either of us from the last day and a half. :laugh4:
you definitely did in the multiball game soab
Was that an exam week? It might have been an exam week.
Was I winning?
There are a lot of questions here.
I think GH has more posts in our QT than either of us from the last day and a half. :laugh4:
This is definitely true :laugh4:
Kind of okay with Zack's hard defense of Winston I GUESS.
Think it's still worth looking at whatever the fuck Snerk is doing.
How am I supposed to stay involved when it's just my faction poasting and Zaccino being a bully :(
Monstr supported vig'ing Snerk AND Barto. :book2:
Brb finding more dumb spew stuff that could save at least one of those two (much to my dismay).
how do i iso here someone help
just profile -> find last posts? somtehing like that?
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 19:14
how do i iso here someone help
just profile -> find last posts? somtehing like that?
In the main Gameroom forum, click on the "number of replies" the thread in question has, and then when the other window pops up click on the number of posts the player you're looking for has made.
You only get the 100 most recent.
how do i iso here someone help
just profile -> find last posts? somtehing like that?
Yeah, or you can search the thread. It's at the top just put in the name and there's a checkbox to the side that says only search for this user.
Monstr was a Royalist tho.
Light bussing ITG.
Eh, I still think El Barto > auto because thread reasons
tanx fronds
Snerk had a really weird reads lists from Day 3.
It seemed like he only had like 2 town and he wasn't really trying to read anyone else scum.
I'll post it sec.
Al Sipsclar: Inactive. Lynchworhty
Autolycus: Kinda inactive. Lynchworthy from my POV
Choxorn: A little bit scummy d1 IMO but I find myself agreeing with his stuff now.
Csargo: Null. So kinda scummy then?
Dp101: Top pick for scummy bus vote d1.
El Barto: Lynchworhty. Is within town meta though.
Lewwyn: On Jabbz wagon so town for now.
Manasi: Makes random-y snipe on Arakhor. But is town due to d1 I guess?
Montmorency: Kinda running the show in my faction. Perhaps my top pick for scum within the faction for the Jabbz thing. But also if town then easily MVP in faction. So yeah.
NotACop: A fair lynch from my POV
Renata: Town I guess.
Seireikhaan: On Jabbz wagon so town for now too.
Winston Hughes: Sooh was scummy.
Zack: Disagrees with 98,76% of posts. Says Auto is important, doesn’t elaborate. Says BSmith wasn’t scum killed, doesn’t elaborate. Says NEVER go to basement on tuesdays, doesn’t elaborate. Town though?
Okay. So this seems weird. Making reads just for the sake of making reads is p r e t t y scummy I'd say. Everything is flimsy and not really taking a stance on anything after like four trillion days.
Especially because a lot of this seems super made up and just posted for the sake of having some thread presence. Isn't wagon analysis kinda lol in multifaction stuff anyway? I duno. Maybe the Jabbz stuff holds some importance.
That coupled with Renata being "town, I guess" and then him coming into today wanting to kill her after she flipped in the night isn't a great look.
He didn't seem to have any other progression throughout the rest of the day that would have warranted a flipped read on her.
All of the reasons he has for Zack would almost always be reasons to read someone scum but still defaults to him being a villager.
All in all, I think there are a lot of holes in this, a lot of fluff.
It's just kinda like: scum, scum, scum, scum, scum, scum, kinda a villager?, maybe a villager?, scum, scum, ????????????????????? villager??, kinda a villager?, scum, bullshit villager read. Looking at it like that imo makes it look a lot worse but willing to hear arguments on that. I don't think that wagon is going to exist today but I think he's a prime vig candidate.
I'm bored someone come back.
Zack talk to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
are you gonna vote snerk or just dance around it
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 19:40
Okay. So this seems weird. Making reads just for the sake of making reads is p r e t t y scummy I'd say. Everything is flimsy and not really taking a stance on anything after like four trillion days.
Especially because a lot of this seems super made up and just posted for the sake of having some thread presence. Isn't wagon analysis kinda lol in multifaction stuff anyway? I duno. Maybe the Jabbz stuff holds some importance.
That coupled with Renata being "town, I guess" and then him coming into today wanting to kill her after she flipped in the night isn't a great look.
He didn't seem to have any other progression throughout the rest of the day that would have warranted a flipped read on her.
All of the reasons he has for Zack would almost always be reasons to read someone scum but still defaults to him being a villager.
All in all, I think there are a lot of holes in this, a lot of fluff.
Consider that Snerk didn't kill Renata because he was being jailed by Khaan the night she died. So who's his partner?
Interesting to pick this out after almost a week of lurking, indeed you began lurking right at that very time (EOD2).
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 19:40
are you gonna vote snerk or just dance around it
I think she wants to vig him.
are you gonna vote snerk or just dance around it
Dance for a little longer, you know how I play. Why is this surprising?
Consider that Snerk didn't kill Renata because he was being jailed by Khaan the night she died. So who's his partner?
Interesting to pick this out after almost a week of lurking, indeed you began lurking right at that very time (EOD2).
I said it almost instantly after he posted it too, for what it's worth.
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 19:45
I said it almost instantly after he posted it too, for what it's worth.
Actually, you didn't. You posted that you would prefer to lynch Snerk over Sooh, before Snerk posted his reads.
Actually, you didn't. You posted that you would prefer to lynch Snerk over Sooh, before Snerk posted his reads.
Mm, thought you were talking about the weird shit re: Renata.
Yeah I read the list but have basically been skimming the thread instead of reading things indepthly.
It all came up after reading Monstr's QT posts about who he'd want to kill.
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 19:53
Well, let's put a few notes forward on unlikely pairings:
Not Snerk and Barto
Not Winston and Auto
Not Winston and Manasi
why is everyone in your faction clear manasi?
btw same is true for my faction
Well, let's put a few notes forward on unlikely pairings:
Not Snerk and Barto
Not Winston and Auto
Not Winston and Manasi
I understand the second one.
Need a little more clarification on the first and third.
Neither Snerk nor Barto have said anything to each other that would make you think otherwise, right? Unless I'm missing some vote stuff which I don't think I am.
I know I've basically ~never spoken to Winston directly this game, and the way it's going I'm not sure if I will. It could be the best form of distancing the world has ever seen. He's voting on me, but the reason was just kind of a /shrug reason.
why is everyone in your faction clear manasi?
btw same is true for my faction
Meh, the way the QT is going we're both trying to figure out the optimal way we can win. It doesn't seem like any sort of ulterior motives can be seen, which were actually pretty apparent in the way that Monstr was posting in both the thread and the QT. It just seems like we're trying to analyze our way through the rest of the game for the sake of our faction and nothing else.
ur faction can smd
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:08
I understand the second one.
Need a little more clarification on the first and third.
Neither Snerk nor Barto have said anything to each other that would make you think otherwise, right? Unless I'm missing some vote stuff which I don't think I am.
I know I've basically ~never spoken to Winston directly this game, and the way it's going I'm not sure if I will. It could be the best form of distancing the world has ever seen. He's voting on me, but the reason was just kind of a /shrug reason.
Sorry, Snerk and auto - auto was the one Snerk was pushing D2 and D3. Csargo and Al Sipsclar were also pushing auto.
So if you want evidence on Snerk and spew on others including your mate, vote auto for lynch and we'll see how it flips.
Meh, the way the QT is going we're both trying to figure out the optimal way we can win. It doesn't seem like any sort of ulterior motives can be seen, which were actually pretty apparent in the way that Monstr was posting in both the thread and the QT. It just seems like we're trying to analyze our way through the rest of the game for the sake of our faction and nothing else.
ur faction can smd
But if by your own admission your faction hasn't even been talking in the QT since D2, what solving and analysis are we talking about exactly?
ur faction can suck gamer dude's gm
Sorry, Snerk and auto - auto was the one Snerk was pushing D2 and D3. Csargo and Al Sipsclar were also pushing auto.
Ah ok, fair enough.
So if you want evidence on Snerk and spew on others including your mate, vote auto for lynch and we'll see how it flips.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm gimme twenty minutes.
But if by your own admission your faction hasn't even been talking in the QT since D2, what solving and analysis are we talking about exactly?
Well our faction was kinda directed by someone who's dead so we're trying to harden up and run the squad ourselves. Can't speak for bae but I know I found it really difficult to get involved and understand the mechanics to a point that I'd be comfortable trying to take any action for the benefit of the faction.
vote: Manasi
~:handball:
ex fucking scuse me bitch
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:12
vote: Manasi
~:handball:
Lolno use your damn vig for this or I will rain hellfire on your faction.
Lolno use your damn vig for this or I will rain hellfire on your faction.
I think he's trying to make me cry jokes on him I already did when he never texted me back sooooooooooooo.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 20:13
1163
El Barto: 5 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113), NotACop (1156)
autolycus: 4 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110), Csargo (1123)
Manasi: 2 | Winston Hughes (1118), Zack (1161)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Snerk (1063)
Round ends:
Lolno use your damn vig for this or I will rain hellfire on your faction.
i don't take orders from you stalin
I think he's trying to make me cry jokes on him I already did when he never texted me back sooooooooooooo.
:sweatdrop:
do u even have a raisin
probs not.
feels
bad
man
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:19
i don't take orders from you stalin
It's called teamwork you vagrant.
It's called teamwork you vagrant.
apparently in your mind "teamwork" is "everyone does what montmorency says"
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:25
apparently in your mind "teamwork" is "everyone does what montmorency says"
Zack's teamwork is 'everything unilateral and to others' detriment'.
If we don't have a structured discussion about what we're expecting or trying to achieve, then a lot of townies will get killed for no reason. This is what Zack wants for you guys.
I never said anything about teamwork. I don't trust anyone outside my faction to actually work with me at this point.
Also I lynched a wolf d1, then put two more on the scan list n1. That's more than you, so don't lecture me about "killing townies".
I never said anything about teamwork. I don't trust anyone outside my faction to actually work with me at this point.
I mean, you guys were voting winston for how long just because LOLwecangetawaywithdoingthis despite never giving legit reasons and him being a pretty obvious villager.
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:31
I don't trust anyone outside my faction to actually work with me at this point.
It's treason, then.
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:32
I mean, you guys were voting winston for how long just because LOLwecangetawaywithdoingthis despite never giving legit reasons and him being a pretty obvious villager.
Yet you're voting Manasi?
I never said anything about teamwork. I don't trust anyone outside my faction to actually work with me at this point.
Also I lynched a wolf d1, then put two more on the scan list n1. That's more than you, so don't lecture me about "killing townies".
* also fought super hard to keep auto alive which ended up clearing several mislynches
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 20:43
* also fought super hard to keep auto alive which ended up clearing several mislynches
If you notice, I pulled for you on that one both privately and publicly, at personal risk. That's teamwork. FYI.
Okay. So this seems weird. Making reads just for the sake of making reads is p r e t t y scummy I'd say. Everything is flimsy and not really taking a stance on anything after like four trillion days.
Wrong. I take plenty of stance on that list. You should compare that with some of my real flimsy read-lists I've made as scum.
Especially because a lot of this seems super made up and just posted for the sake of having some thread presence. Isn't wagon analysis kinda lol in multifaction stuff anyway? I duno. Maybe the Jabbz stuff holds some importance.
What was made up?
That coupled with Renata being "town, I guess" and then him coming into today wanting to kill her after she flipped in the night isn't a great look.
Jeez Louise. Read the posts before that. It was a joke.
He didn't seem to have any other progression throughout the rest of the day that would have warranted a flipped read on her.
^^
All of the reasons he has for Zack would almost always be reasons to read someone scum but still defaults to him being a villager.
You what?
All in all, I think there are a lot of holes in this, a lot of fluff.
It is what is it. Lazy half baked reads but it wasn't very scummy.
unvote, vote: Auto
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 21:06
1179
El Barto: 5 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113), NotACop (1156)
autolycus: 5 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110), Csargo (1123), Snerk (1179)
Manasi: 2 | Winston Hughes (1118), Zack (1161)
Round ends:
Barto def the scummier of the two.
Vote: El Barto
Ya Snerk sorry first game on this site so didnt really think of comparing meta.
When I say made up I mean really uncertain. Easy to say to make people believe that you believe it.
If that makes sense.
Zack are you gonna vote on someone you actually wanna kill soon or nah?
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 21:25
1181
El Barto: 6| Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113), NotACop (1156), Manasi (1181)
autolycus: 5 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110), Csargo (1123), Snerk (1179)
Manasi: 2 | Winston Hughes (1118), Zack (1161)
Round ends:
FWIW I'm very comfortable with a Barto lynch too.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 21:55
5 minutes.
El Barto
03-19-2017, 21:56
Aaaaarrggh!
Hmm, vote: El Barto
Justify this vote. FoS: Al sipsclar, Manasi, Snerk
Vote: El Barto
I kinda doubt winston is mafia, just from tone. Not really in love with an autolycus lynch either. Fine with Barto walking the plank.
Heh, I finally start to convince people that every game should be a pirate ship mafia game. And with my dying breath, I curse autolycus.
El Barto
03-19-2017, 21:57
unvote, vote: Auto
Barto def the scummier of the two.
Vote: El Barto
Reached last page.
Manasi+Auto=teammates
El Barto
03-19-2017, 21:59
vote: el barto
Justify this, bandwaggoner!
Montmorency
03-19-2017, 22:00
Vote: Game changer
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 22:00
Voting closed.
GeneralHankerchief
03-19-2017, 22:12
"The art of government has produced nothing but monsters."
~ Louis-Antoine de Saint-Just
https://i.imgur.com/3emP4Ty.png
Day 4
"We haven't caught a Royalist in three days! They're clearly hiding among YOUR faction!"
"Oh yeah? So says a member of the group that's already had one traitor hidden among them already! How do we know you've gotten your house in order by now, hmm?"
"Everybody in my group has done their utmost to seek out and destroy the Royalists out there! Can you say the same for yours?"
"We've looked out for ourselves!"
"I would rather see France back under Bourbon rule than in the hands of *your* awful party!"
"How DARE you! You will all pay for this insult!"
And so the deliberations went. The President of the Convention figured that all of this lively discussion - all on the public record, of course - would make for some fun reading for historians decades and centuries in the future, but for now his mind was on the present. There were still Royalists to hunt, an important law was up for debate, and decorum was starting to break down.
At the very least, the Law of 22 Prarial seemed like it would pass without much opposition - after all, what government body in history had ever voted down measures to give themselves more power? But as for the day's death sentence, that was another matter, and the cause of so much consternation. Although some discussion was scattered around other sources, by day's end it looked to come down to autolycus and El Barto. autolycus, for his part, seemed rather cool and collected, perhaps as a result of him having survived a coin flip with his life as the stakes two days' prior to this. At various points in the day he was arguing his case in front of the Convention, laying out strategy for how to proceed from here, huddling up with his faction to discuss matters, and going over daily government business that didn't fall in the realm of Royalist hunting. Barto, for his part, was sporadically around, but did pop in every so often in his own indomitable style.
When the President banged his gavel to close the day's voting, though, it was Barto who was the Convention's choice. Whether by his constant presence or backhanded manners, autolycus had survived by the skin of his teeth once again.
"Ooh, does this mean I get to make a last speech before the people of Paris?" Barto asked. The president, confused at this enthusiasm, nodded. "Oh boy, this is going to great! I can't wait to harangue them on the virtues of republican living and other proposed strategies I have in mind that can further the progress of the Revolution. I think you'll in particular want to give my plans regarding maritime commerce a thought -"
"Save it for the crowd," the president said. "After all, you wouldn't want to repeat yourself." Placated by this, Barto happily walked along with the rest of the crowd to the city square where the guillotine awaited.
After the reading of charges, Barto did not, like his previous colleagues, immediately kneel into position. Instead, he strode up to the very front of the platform and launched into his address.
"Citoyens," he began, "Before we-"
BOOOOOOOOO!
Traitor!
Royalist scum!
BOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nobody wants to hear your poisonous words, Bourbon slime!
"But... but... but..." Barto tried to get out more of his speech but was drowned out by even louder jeering from the crowd. They started throwing things: rotten fruit, old shoes, rocks, anything they could get their hands on. He was physically unable to continue his prepared speech.
Having only gotten three last words out, El Barto meekly let the day's official proceedings come to a conclusion and mounted the guillotine without further protest. The blade, as always, got the final word of the day in.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
El Barto has been lynched! He was: Jacques Roux, a Populist!Not a Royalist.
Day 4 tally:
El Barto: 6 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113), NotACop (1156), Manasi (1181) :skull:
autolycus: 5 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110), Csargo (1123), Snerk (1179)
Manasi: 2 | Winston Hughes (1118), Zack (1161)
Law of 22 Prarial Yes/No vote:
Yes: 11 | Monty, khaan, Manasi, Choxorn, Lewwyn, Winston, NAC, Zack, autolycus, El Barto, Csargo
No: Snerk
Law of 22 Prarial passes. For Night 4 only, each faction has access to an additional vig shot and protection.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It is now Night 4! Please send in your orders.
Night 4 ends Monday, March 20, at 5:00 PM US Eastern Time (GMT-4).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Still alive (12):
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack
Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor
BSmith
Askthepizzaguy
Renata
Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes
Dp101
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
03-20-2017, 20:01
Resolution might come a bit later than normal this round. Thank you for your patience.
GeneralHankerchief
03-20-2017, 22:00
Night has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
Give me a bit to process.
GeneralHankerchief
03-20-2017, 23:20
"Death is not an eternal sleep. Death is the commencement of immortality."
~ Maximilien Robespierre
https://i.imgur.com/XmOb2h7.gif
Night 4
With the passage of the Law of 22 Prarial, the members of the National Convention had voted themselves an enormous amount of power and oversight to deal with the Royalist threat. Would they act properly with this power? That remained to be seen, but the prognosis did not look good - after all, each faction had meticulously tallied up their grievances and causes for redress not only since the start of the current emergency, but since the creation of the Republic and the start of the Convention itself. Now, with the balance sheets growing ever-more lopsided, the time had come to settle accounts.
The first victim of the night's violence was autolycus. Even in this tense environment, auto had never ceased his practice of visiting his favorite salon and hobnobbing with his fellow intellectuals about whichever topic struck their fancy - whether it be political, philosophical, whimsical, or otherwise. Tonight, seeking to take his mind off things, auto had insisted that the topic be lighter.
"All right, fashion-wise, what do we think about the sans-culottes? I mean, I recognize that their style of dress has come to identify a political movement so it might be hard to separate that from the fashion, but could they look better? Is there any way we could parlay their style into a sort of high fashion?"
"I'm not sure," auto said. "I mean, how far do we want to take it? I understand that they don't wear the knee breeches which were obviously the height of style in years past, but what if we could work their trousers into it somehow? Perhaps color them purple? Anything - as long as it's not white, for obvious reasons - to get them off that awful earthy color. These are Parisians, not farmers for goodness sake."
"You have no idea what you're talking about," a third replied. "The entire point of the sans-culotte movement was a political statement. If that gets repurposed for material reasons-"
He never get to finish his statement, as at that very moment the doors to the salon burst open. An armed mob indiscriminately fired into the crowd, killing or wounding all of the patrons there, including autolycus.
Al Sipsclar was working late in his office, trying to keep up with all of the various political pamphlets that had been issued over the past few days in order to keep his finger on the pulse of French opinion. After all, with the Republic also came the fickle whims of popular thought, and all of the politicians in the nation would be unwise to treat popular opinion like they would have in the Ancien Régime.
These pamphlets represented all sides of the nascent political spectrum: Montagnard, Girondin, Populist, Militarist, even some hybrid pamplets, in addition to ultra-radical ones as well as those which almost might be considered quasi-Royalist, calling for a return to a constitutional monarchy as a possible solution to the emergency. One trend that Al Sipsclar had noticed over time was that, with more and more people finding a voice, they started to get shriller and louder, calling for more outlandish and dramatic measures, in an attempt to rise above the din and be heard.
I wonder if this trend will continue as revolution spreads across the Continent and the globe, Al wondered, but kept reading, making notes, searching for a solution, in the meantime. He was fully engrossed in his work, dead to the outside world.
Unfortunately, the outside world was not dead to him, a fact that Al learned the hard way as a brick crashed through his window, startling him from his near-hypnosis by the pamphlets.
"What is the meaning of-" he began, but quickly jumped back as a torch came through the hole in the window had just appeared. Oh no, his office was primarily made of wood!
He desperately searched for some water or other material with which to put the nascent fire out, but as he did, more bricks came through different windows, and more torches followed those bricks. After a while, a full conflagration had erupted, and Al knew that his office was a lost cause. He tried to evacuate through the front door, running out...
...and being sent sprawling back to his floor with an injured shoulder, courtesy of an unbudging object. Somebody had barricaded the front door from the outside! Al attempted to get up, nursing his injured shoulder, but by that time the flames were well on their way to completing their wicked work. They would not stop until everything - and everyone - in the building had burned to a crisp.
Elsewhere in the city, Snerk was trying to forget about the tense atmosphere, at least for one night, by going to his favorite tavern. There, at least, you were not judged. There, as long as you were there to eat, drink, and not start something, you would not be unfairly looked upon. Sometimes Snerk thought the world would run a lot more smoothly if everyone treated it like they did their favorite tavern, but alas, that was not the way of things.
And so Snerk sat at his favorite stool, nursing his favorite glass, ready to drink his favorite wine, preparing to order from his favorite bartend-
"Wait a minute," he said, looking up in surprise. "I've been coming here ever since I got elected to the Legislative Assembly and not once has anyone besides Éloise been here to serve drinks! Where is she and who are you?"
"Apologies citoyen," the new bartender replied. "Éloise is due before the Revolutionary Tribunal next week after being found in violation of the Law of Suspects. My name is Delphine, and I hope to continue the high level of service that my predecessor established. You are Snerk, right? Yes, the owner mentioned you. What's your usual again?"
Snerk, reeling from the shock and the realization that the Convention's laws impacted more than just those privy to its inner machinations, mumbled his usual order, which Delphine quickly prepared. Snerk took it gratefully and gulped it down a lot faster than he normally would have, but the poison was fast-acting. Within 30 seconds he was on the floor, dead to the world.
And so the murders continued, all for various purposes, but most committed under the auspices of the Law of 22 Prarial. Some were made in the name of hunting Royalists, targeting suspected traitors to the new republic. Some were made in the name of naked factionalism, trying to take control of the Convention for good or otherwise trying to right perceived wrongs. And it was possible that some - though most dared to think otherwise - were made by the dreaded Royalists themselves, ready to make good on their threat and take back the country.
Like the rationale for these deaths, the manner in which the murders were committed also varied widely. There had been deaths by gunshot, arson, and poison, but that night no means of killing another human being was off-limits. Some people were clubbed to death, others attacked by vicious dogs, others still stabbed, unsuspectingly, by acquaintances and strangers alike. Winston Hughes, never a strong swimmer, was pushed off one of Paris's many bridges and fell into the Seine, where he was carried along helplessly by the current and eventually drowned.
Smoke started to rise from various sources in the city. Not the pleasant white or light grey of people cooking delicious meals, nor even the darker shade that represented industry and progress. No, this smoke was the ugly black kind, always emanating from a red glow in the distance, that came from violence and chaos. At first it rose from one source - Al Sipsclar's office - but that number soon grew to two, then three, then five, then a dozen, then more. Nobody within the city limits got much sleep that night, not with first the city's fire brigades and later its National Guard hauling tail back and forth across the city to try to deal with the problems and restore some semblance of order. They were less than successful at this.
seireikhaan, like everyone else in the city, had gotten little sleep during this. He decided to go to the Temple of Reason - formerly known as Notre Dame - first to pray, but secondly to take it all in. So, climbing one of the legendary church's towers, he had done so, getting a lovely panoramic view of Paris as it burned.
He resolved to remember his thoughts and record them for posterity upon his return home, but he never got the chance. A forceful push caused him to lose his balance and tumble off the tower, meeting his end on the hard ground of the Île de la Cité below. And thus the night had claimed another victim. So it went.
Finally, there was Montmorency. He had had a good idea of what was going to happen, and at first holed himself up in his home, where, if he was going to die, at least he would do so in comfort. But as the night wore on, and the violence only grew, and the terrible reports kept pouring in, he realized this would not do. The motivation came from very deep inside, but it came on quickly and forcefully, and soon Monty was walking the streets of Paris, with no destination or goal in mind.
On his walk to nowhere, Monty started pondering. Pondering his life in the Ancien Régime, and then how it had dramatically changed since the Estates-General were called and beyond. How he had been elected as a young deputy, and taken the lead there, and joined the Jacobin Club, and signed the Tennis Court Oath, and proclaimed an end to the absolute rule of the monarchy, and gained more and more influence, and had been the leading advocate for Louis's death, and then kick-started the Terror, with a thousand other notable events in between.
The one constant through all of that, though, was Paris. Paris had always flourished despite - or because of - the upheaval around and within her. The salons were still busy and productive. The taverns, the markets, the places of business, they remained crowded and profitable. The people, Supreme Being bless them, were constantly pushing the people in charge, reminding them that the Revolution was something that was never finished. Paris was an ugly, demanding thing, but it had also kept its head. In that way, it was beautiful and perfect in its imperfections.
And now, on this night, it was losing all of that. The city was tearing itself apart. Not due to threat from a foreign invader at its doorstep, but doing so within. Because of Royalist infiltrators, or perhaps just factional politics. Was this his doing? Had he pushed things too far? What if he had taken a different course? He himself, and many in his faction, had talked a big game about the necessity of the Terror, and how harsh measures were required if France was to come out of the emergency in one piece, but now that... this... was staring at him in the face, he started to wonder if this was the right way of going about things.
He drew himself out of his own thoughts for a second to see where he was. He didn't immediately recognize it. There were no landmarks nearby, nothing that made the city famous. None of his friends or colleagues (to his knowledge) lived here. Just an anonymous street, then, one of thousands, where the true beating heart of the city had always lied.
He was not alone. Standing opposite from him, about twenty yards away, was a lone figure, holding up a musket, clearly aiming for him.
It was a straight shot. All of the buildings were closed, the windows boarded up. There were no alleyways to duck into. He had nowhere to run.
Sighing, Monty decided to at least get some satisfaction out of this before he met his end. "And who is ultimately to be responsible for my demise?" he called out to his soon-to-be assailant.
"You are, citoyen." There was a loud crack, followed shortly by a muted "thud" as the shot hit its target.
Montmorency bled out on that anonymous street, his last moments occupied by precisely what his attacker had meant by those last words.
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autolycus has been killed! He was: Georges Danton, a Populist! Not a Royalist.
Al Sipsclar has been killed! He was: Pierre Vergniaud, a Girondin! Not a Royalist.
Snerk has been killed! He was: The Marquis de Sade, a Montagnard! Not a Royalist.
Winston Hughes has been killed! He was: Collot d'Herbois, a Populist! Not a Royalist.
seireikhaan has been killed! He was: Jacques-Louis David, a Montagnard! Not a Royalist.
Montmorency has been killed! He was: Augustin Robespierre, a Montagnard! Actually Maximilien Robespierre, a Montagnard! Not a Royalist.
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It is now Day 5!
Voting will end Wednesday, March 22, at 5:00 PM US Eastern time (GMT-4).
Feedback will go out and Post 2 will be updated shortly.
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Still alive (6):
Choxorn
Csargo
Lewwyn
Manasi
NotACop
Zack
Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor
BSmith
Askthepizzaguy
Renata
autolycus
Al Sipsclar
Snerk
Winston Hughes
seireikhaan
Montmorency
Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes
Dp101
El Barto
Holy fucking heck.
Well that's a bloodbath and a half.
GeneralHankerchief
03-20-2017, 23:29
All feedback should now be out. Post 2 has been updated.
Please let me know if I've missed anything. :bow:
Oh shit what it's final 6 how did this happen.
How did I add an icon to my post I didn't mean to do that sorry friends.
What do you know, my entire faction not royalists.
What do you know, my entire faction not royalists.
rip entire faction.
What if it's you, though?
:thinking:
I want some answers, and I want some answers now. I want to know who killed who, and why.
I'll start with what the Girondins did: We killed Winston Hughes. We thought he was suspicious, and we generally thought the Populists as a whole were suspicious and perhaps not interested in working with the rest of us, so we acted accordingly.
Your turns.
Manasi, Csargo, which of the deaths are you responsible for?
Lewwyn, who did the Montagnards kill?
Zack, who did the Populists kill?
I want some answers, and I want some answers now. I want to know who killed who, and why.
I'll start with what the Girondins did: We killed Winston Hughes. We thought he was suspicious, and we generally thought the Populists as a whole were suspicious and perhaps not interested in working with the rest of us, so we acted accordingly.
Your turns.
Manasi, Csargo, which of the deaths are you responsible for?
Lewwyn, who did the Montagnards kill?
Zack, who did the Populists kill?
Just mont.
I want some answers, and I want some answers now. I want to know who killed who, and why.
I'll start with what the Girondins did: We killed Winston Hughes. We thought he was suspicious, and we generally thought the Populists as a whole were suspicious and perhaps not interested in working with the rest of us, so we acted accordingly.
Your turns.
Manasi, Csargo, which of the deaths are you responsible for?
Lewwyn, who did the Montagnards kill?
Zack, who did the Populists kill?
Why the hell did you not kill lewwyn like you were supposed to? WH was never suspicious, he was so damn villagery. He literally did not do a single scummy thing, he was so pure.
Like just admit it was because you could get away with doing it. If you honestly thought he was a royalist then lol that's shameful.
Why the hell did you not kill lewwyn like you were supposed to? WH was never suspicious, he was so damn villagery. He literally did not do a single scummy thing, he was so pure.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/so_pure_john_oliver.gif
Plus you were fucking tracking him so what the hell happened?
attached thumbnails pls no.
POPULISTS:
Zack
MONTAGNARDS:
Lewwyn
MILITARISTS:
Csargo
Manasi
GIRONDIN:
Choxorn
NotACop
Just mont.
Why would you kill Monty? He was confirmed town by Autolycus's investigation.
Why the hell did you not kill lewwyn like you were supposed to? WH was never suspicious, he was so damn villagery. He literally did not do a single scummy thing, he was so pure.
Pure my ass. And as I recall, the original plan was for you to kill Manasi, I was never supposed to target Lewwyn or Winston other than to track them. You deviated from the plan, so I decided to do the same, and well, honestly, if the Montagnards and Populists wanted to kill each other, I was glad to take the side that had two confirmed non-Royalists and one who was blocked while the Royalists were killing against the side of the one that had several of the most suspicious players in the game.
For all the crap you're giving me and that you've been giving Monty in the past, you're the one that's always been blindly putting the interests of your faction over the interests of actually finding Royalists.
And you still haven't explained your actions last night.
POPULISTS:
Zack
MONTAGNARDS:
Lewwyn
MILITARISTS:
Csargo
Manasi
GIRONDIN:
Choxorn
NotACop
O.
I thought NAC was in your faction.
Z z z z z z z z. I was just gonna ask you what you thought of him.
It looks like I'm going to face the guillotine today, which I'm actually ok with, because if El Barto or Winston is the last scum left and we lynch them, the Montagnards triumph (4-3-3-2).
Accordingly, stipulating that I'm going to be lynched, and stipulating that I don't flip Royalist, which I know is the case, here is my proposal for how to restore balance tonight (and hopefully wipe out the Royalists):
Montagnards: Kill El Barto or Winston, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect one of your guaranteed innocents.
Populists: Kill choxorn or al sipsclar, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect Zack ( I take him as guaranteed innocent)
Militarists: Kill Snerk, protect one of your own.
Girondins: Kill Lewwyn, protect NAC.
If this goes as planned, this restores the 2-2-2-2 balance, and eliminates four potential scum. If that finishes the Royalists, everybody wins(except whichever team the Royalists kill from, assuming they succeed), since we're allowed to tie at 2.
On the kills, any deviation only strengthens another team. If someone deviates on the protection, they WILL be lynched the next day, if the game doesn't end, and that team will have a target on their back.
Thoughts?
Oh,yes, and vote:Yes
This is the plan we followed, except we additionally killed Snerk because the montagnards had more people than anyone else and they're also annoying.
So, you killed Al and Snerk, then?
Why would you kill Monty? He was confirmed town by Autolycus's investigation.
Pure my ass. And as I recall, the original plan was for you to kill Manasi, I was never supposed to target Lewwyn or Winston other than to track them. You deviated from the plan, so I decided to do the same, and well, honestly, if the Montagnards and Populists wanted to kill each other, I was glad to take the side that had two confirmed non-Royalists and one who was blocked while the Royalists were killing against the side of the one that had several of the most suspicious players in the game.
For all the crap you're giving me and that you've been giving Monty in the past, you're the one that's always been blindly putting the interests of your faction over the interests of actually finding Royalists.
And you still haven't explained your actions last night.
There were no Royalists in my faction dude, lol.
I also fought to keep auto alive which cleared several people in the POE and kinda screwed us, so don't give me that.
You and Monty were always about protecting your faction as a priority, you just pretended otherwise. I didn't.
And I did agree to the plan, Monty was just being an ass so I said screw him. And killing the person you're tracking still makes no sense, especially because he was very towny. You can't even say what he did that was suspicious, you're just mudslinging at me.
GeneralHankerchief
03-21-2017, 00:03
Could the dead please refrain from thanking posts made by players.
Thank you.
O.
I thought NAC was in your faction.
Z z z z z z z z. I was just gonna ask you what you thought of him.
Are you serious, he was publicly revealed to not be a royalist.
With two kills unaccounted for...
More likely to attribute both to Montagnards?
Or Royalists?
HUehfiwughwige.
Are you serious, he was publicly revealed to not be a royalist.
RIP forgot.
Okay, so what's the game plan?
Pretty sure that csargo is pure so means there might be one in Lewwyn/Chox assuming there is (at least) one alive.
OTHERWISE it's basically a FFA lolgames.
Well eff.
Every night Monty changes the orders a minute before the deadline in our group so all the final orders were chosen by Monty in the end.
We killed auto, khaan did the killing
Snerk protected Monty (so somehow the kill got through protection)
Monty jailkept me...
Well, so far we have the Girondins claiming responsibility for Winston, the Militarists for Monty, the Populists (I think) for Al Sipsclar and Snerk.
I think we can safely assume that the Montagnards didn't kill Khaan, and I don't see why the Royalists would have killed Autolycus when he was such obvious lynchbait and vigbait, so my bet is the Montagnards killed Autolycus and the Royalists killed Khaan.
RIP forgot.
Okay, so what's the game plan?
Pretty sure that csargo is pure so means there might be one in Lewwyn/Chox assuming there is (at least) one alive.
OTHERWISE it's basically a FFA lolgames.
Are you serious?
Well eff.
Every night Monty changes the orders a minute before the deadline in our group so all the final orders were chosen by Monty in the end.
We killed auto, khaan did the killing
Snerk protected Monty (so somehow the kill got through protection)
Monty jailkept me...
hm...
The notion of sanctimoniously accusing me of not hunting Royalists is pretty obnoxious when you're standing on top of a pile of dead villagers.
Are you serious?
About which bit? ~:)
The notion of sanctimoniously accusing me of not hunting Royalists is pretty obnoxious when you're standing on top of a pile of dead villagers.
stop it big words turn me on
Says the faction responsible for killing 4 villagers and no scums.
About which bit? ~:)
Like, you seriously "forgot" that Monty was confirmed town?
Like, you seriously "forgot" that Monty was confirmed town?
Nah that was about NAC.
Rengoata wanted Mont dead. :daisy:
Says the faction responsible for killing 4 villagers and no scums.
Excuse me.
I lynched Jabbz day 1.
I put monstr and kage on the scan list n1, then vigorously defended auto so the scan results clearing two mislynches could be publicized.
What have you done that was so great? Besides try to kill my faction mates after I kept telling you that was a bad idea.
The last thing Monty said was to trust the Girondin.
Csargo or Mansai is probably the last royalist... but we should totally lynch Zack anyway.
The last thing Monty said was to trust the Girondin.
Csargo or Mansai is probably the last royalist... but we should totally lynch Zack anyway.
Put me out of my misery and help the Royalists by killing another villager. Fine with me.
The last thing Monty said was to trust the Girondin.
Csargo or Mansai is probably the last royalist... but we should totally lynch Zack anyway.
Who cares what Monty said?
Put me out of my misery and help the Royalists by killing another villager. Fine with me.
Just voicing my displeasure with you. I unfortunately believe you are scum free.
Nah that was about NAC.
Rengoata wanted Mont dead. :daisy:
I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted you to kill Monty, especially after Monty was publicly revealed not Royalist.
it ain't me, it ain't me, i ain't no fortunate one
Just voicing my displeasure with you. I unfortunately believe you are scum free.
Scum free but you still wanna lynch him.
q u e s t i o n m a r k
I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted you to kill Monty, especially after Monty was publicly revealed not Royalist.
Monty was not in Renata's faction, killing him was to her win condition.
I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted you to kill Monty, especially after Monty was publicly revealed not Royalist.
Well doubt again bc she wanted that soab d e a d
Vote: Mansai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
Okay, let me put that another way: I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted Manasi and Csargo to kill Monty over several other people much more likely to be Royalists than Monty. Like Lewwyn, or Snerk.
I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted you to kill Monty, especially after Monty was publicly revealed not Royalist.
She wanted him dead, she also knew he was town. He deserved it.
Just voicing my displeasure with you. I unfortunately believe you are scum free.
I don't care about your displeasure. I am so sick and tired of people trying to shame me for playing to my win condition. And trying to boss me around and act like I have any obligation at all to work with my enemies. It's super annoying. I'm really tired of all the condescension and sanctimonious grandstanding.
I don't care about your displeasure. I am so sick and tired of people trying to shame me for playing to my win condition. And trying to boss me around and act like I have any obligation at all to work with my enemies. It's super annoying. I'm really tired of all the condescension and sanctimonious grandstanding.
you're doing this on purpose now aren't you
She wanted him dead, she also knew he was town. He deserved it.
I agree, Monty was really annoying. He acted like he was entitled to me being his slave and like I should be happy to be the Montagnard's vassal.
you're doing this on purpose now aren't you
No I'm legit annoyed. You didn't have to listen to Monty in his stupid QuickTopic.
No I'm legit annoyed. You didn't have to listen to Monty in his stupid QuickTopic.
:hide:
I meant the big words. Sorry. :(
Wait, you were in a QT with him?
Okay, let me put that another way: I seriously doubt Renata would have wanted Manasi and Csargo to kill Monty over several other people much more likely to be Royalists than Monty. Like Lewwyn, or Snerk.
Yeah, but revenge etc.
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