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GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 23:58
If I'm to put this in a readslist I think it goes something like:
Logic
Fable
Zack
Insaner
Monty
ladd
--- town line ---
Csargo
dya
Newyn
Pzelda
Cuth
Egix
Empoof
Choxorn
--- null/idk line ---
merl1n
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 23:58
If I'm to put this in a readslist I think it goes something like:
Logic
Fable
Zack
Insaner
Monty
ladd
--- town line ---
Csargo
dya
Newyn
Pzelda
Cuth
Egix
Empoof
Choxorn
--- null/idk line ---
merl1n
El Barto
Not actually sure how much I like El Barto at the bottom but I don't really have the energy to try to find a different non-Monty lynch right now in my null territory.
Vote: El Barto
I'm preoccupied atm but both wagons probably a miss tbh.
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He's bluffin
Mhm I figured you might be thinking it was a distancing comment. Obviously it matters to you whether you think the person they're shading is scum or null.
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
"Originally Posted by pzelda View Post
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus."
Like this read here is just frankly bull. You said you liked his posts, why would everyone else thinking the same make Zack suspicious? It makes no sense. It's like you are on that level where you aware that slapping a lazy town read on Zack might make you look suspicious so you want to add some sort of tinfoil to your read.
I actually read that game! And I was hard town reading you there, too. Those villagers were fools. And I feel like a have a good read on you, not seeing you as a villager like I did in those 2 games.
@GH I have a god meta read on Capage. Literally have never been wrong on him in my entire life. He is a wolf here, you should sheep me!
Mhm I figured you might be thinking it was a distancing comment. Obviously it matters to you whether you think the person they're shading is scum or null.
You got it right.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:02
@GH I have a god meta read on Capage. Literally have never been wrong on him in my entire life. He is a wolf here, you should sheep me!
Ok.
Vote: PZelda
@GH I have a god meta read on Capage. Literally have never been wrong on him in my entire life. He is a wolf here, you should sheep me!
is this hyberbole? what kind of sample size in games are we talking?
I don't know what to make of Egix here. There aren't any individual posts that make me suspect him. But he is too safe, never really committing to an opinion.
is this hyberbole? what kind of sample size in games are we talking?
Yes. I'm actually 2/3 on Capage I'm pretty sure - I misread him the first time we played (anni mash 2018) but then read him correctly as villager in 2 recent games. Was an easy read as I found him super villagery from the moment he posted in those games, and I got the opposite feeling here.
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 00:13
Oh and finally in a game where egix is pillaging so that's cool.
Pillaging as opposed to villaging? :creep:
New phone is killing me. Meant villaging but if egix likes pillaging I'm not gonna judge.
It was good wordplay. If you're town, it's your job to judge pillagers.
I'm glad people are enjoying the emotes.
Good stuff.
Mafia day role cop detected.
Also a soft, but weaker.
laddYou hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.
I should point out I agreed with him.
Nah
Unless you meant villaging, in which case, ofc I do.
Do you like killing, or grilling?
Not as sold on Merl1n town as everyone else, and it's largely for this post:
It just seems a little overdone, even for the "I'm new and this is my first game" act he's putting on. I don't doubt that this is his first game but I feel like he's putting it on a little too much.
Empoof is gut mafia for me. Can't really explain it now. Kill me tonight if you don't want me to flesh this out please.
Guess I'm voting with my two large posts as a guideline. Anyone I haven't talked about I'm probably ambivalent about.
Whoa, merlin articulated much of my D1 mood. Countershade on GH.
Who exactly are you asking to kill you, and why? :inquisitive:
Ok.
Vote: PZelda
I might join in, but I need to read the thread first.
I'm considering moving back to ladd, but otoh Mont's catchup wall didn't exactly rock my world.
No I don't like killing or grilling!
Yes. I'm actually 2/3 on Capage I'm pretty sure - I misread him the first time we played (anni mash 2018) but then read him correctly as villager in 2 recent games. Was an easy read as I found him super villagery from the moment he posted in those games, and I got the opposite feeling here.
oh. i have a friend i've read correctly actually literally 100% of the time over 50 or so irl games, so that's a read strength i'd trust. 3 games in which you were only right 2 of them, mebbe not xD
i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little
oh. i have a friend i've read correctly actually literally 100% of the time over 50 or so irl games, so that's a read strength i'd trust. 3 games in which you were only right 2 of them, mebbe not xD
Fair enough. Where are you at with regards to wolf reads?
i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little
Full disclosure, bud.
All right, you know what
Unvote
Vote: ladd
Choo choo mothertruckers
All right, you know what
Unvote
Vote: ladd
Choo choo mothertruckers
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trying to figure out what i think about general. i think i like him going against the grain with his read on me, but it's something i've done as a bad before, almost a refuge in audacity type calling someone out that every other player thinks is good
Fair enough. Where are you at with regards to wolf reads?
idk yet. d1 is usually just "shrug kill someone at semi-random who isn't acting like they care" and get our night actions in, and then use that info to start getting real lynches done
going to spend some time focusing on ppl with votes and figuring out what i think, since it seems a lot more serious on d1 here
Monty, shouldn't be considered a soft claim. I was saying that today (right now) would be more active.
GH, unrelated to whatever gut read you have I'm curious how you would describe my wolf play to someone who's never played for me (like, explaining it to merl1n).
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
This seems correct?
Ladd wagon looks the purest to me
does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:26
yeah um
with all due respect I think your reads are rather strange, gh
Vote: Choroxn
Thought I did that earlier but I think nl missed it, was probably at the bottom of a post
does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?
I was defending Barto all day. But I was the only one.
You are correct here - when I was talking about Barto being spewed by wolfy people pushing him, ladd and GH are the people I had in mind. And also Cuth: who didn't actually Barto, but he didn't not push him either as he included him in his possible wolf list. But mainly I was talking about ladd and GH.
I saw someone point out that those 2 weren't even the main pushers on El Barto - he was mostly pushed by Zack and you also agreed with it, and I since the two of you are my top villager reads, someone, maybe even more than 1 person, had argued that my point about Barto being spewed is moot since the people I think are wolfy that scum read Barto have actually barely pushed him. But to me, ladd's and GH stances on Barto look exactly like how wolves treat consensus scum read villagers - call them wolfy and then sit back while another villager (Zack) does all the dirty work of convincing others to vote them.
Barto's big post and my comment on it:
I'm trying to think if I can give you something more other than it just seems natural to me. The answer is sadly no =/ It just strikes me as him giving his... unfiltered? impressions of things. He isn't trying to force any conclusions with his comments which makes it look genuine. He has very little volume and I know it's not a good town case but I think the reasons to wolfread him are way, way worse. It's literally just Zack's two post read where he said that El Barto was wolfy for not voting me along with his joke. That's literally it. It's an okay read to make 5 minutes into the game, but I just checked and Zack actually never updater his read, the only time he gave something else was this post:
Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.
Sorry it took so long, got distracted a couple of times.
does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?
Not in this player list.
Though I'd say a couple of us are defending monty, albeit softly
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:29
vote: El Barto
We might lynch pzelda here tbh
I don't believe 100%-never-rescind levels for insaner but he probably has some idea and it's like 70% likely
how do role claims work here? if your going to be lynched are you allowed to claim your power? ive played in games where you can and in games where you cant
We might lynch pzelda here tbh
I don't believe 100%-never-rescind levels for insaner but he probably has some idea and it's like 70% likely
my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead
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for merl1n
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:31
I do think Monty looks better, and I'm less comfortable with my company on that wagon
plus Barto is definitely pretty low-key
and I think it's a helpful lynch no matter what
how do role claims work here? if your going to be lynched are you allowed to claim your power? ive played in games where you can and in games where you cant
You can as long as you don't quote anything. But since this is a role madness game just claiming isn't going to be clearing.
Vote: El Barto
Outside of Mont, the wagon's essentially my entire town list so I'm feeling good about this.
my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead
If pzelda is town I wouldn't knock insaner for it.
Though I'd pay attention to how his reaction and PoV shifts based on the knowledge during day 2
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:32
for merl1n
hard softing villager alignment
hard softing villager alignment
My hidden anticlaim mechanic will deal with this tonight, thanks
my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead
Idk man. I feel strongly about it, but saying it's 100% would be pretty stupid. I expect him to flip wolf here. I'm basing my entire world view on that fact. But it's possible that he flips green, and in that case, I will need to reassess.
Vote: El Barto
Outside of Mont, the wagon's essentially my entire town list so I'm feeling good about this.
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Merl1n, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Dyachei, Csargo
I'm here until EoD
Still sorta backseating, think my opinions are well known enough atp.
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:38
I feel pretty decent about emp/gh v/w world in some order but curious to see how some stuff plays out
Idk man. I feel strongly about it, but saying it's 100% would be pretty stupid. I expect him to flip wolf here. I'm basing my entire world view on that fact. But it's possible that he flips green, and in that case, I will need to reassess.
I mean, this is what I was expecting but I'm surprised that you just said it like this. Figured you'd double down and just deal the next day if you were wrong.
I mean, this is what I was expecting but I'm surprised that you just said it like this. Figured you'd double down and just deal the next day if you were wrong.
I mean, I'm not stupid.
good: logic, empoof, cuthillius, maybe fable, maybe zack
idk: dyachei, generalhandkerchief, choxorn, newyn
people call bad but undecided: montemorency, pzelda, el barto
maybe bad: ladd, insaner (but not both of them)
i feel good about the goods except maybe zack which i don't really understand, but everyone that seems to know him is in agreement so willing to go with it. he has posted a lot anyways
ladd and insaner r pretty similar to me in that they both feel artificial in some posts, like i should think they're good but i read their posts and just don't. they probably aren't together though so might be something i can figure out overnight
i dont have strong feelings on the Big Three of montemorency, pzelda, el barto. the first/third of those feel like they were my standard d1 "kill someone at random" wagons, but then it just stayed there despite everyone posting a lot. neither seem to all that much care that they are being killed either and idk what to make of that
I feel pretty decent about emp/gh v/w world in some order but curious to see how some stuff plays out
We both lightly wolf read eachother and know eachother decently well.
I wouldn't be shocked if gh was town here but I think he's not fully committed to the game yet so it's hard for me to read into.
I'd rather not lynch him day 1 fwiw but if the wagon happens I wouldn't not consider it
:sweetheart:
Kinda feels like there's a wolf inside of barto/pzelda
think Monty being a lynch is like, similar to lynching zork for whatever opinions zork has. I don't really think the people that suspect him suspect him for good reasons.
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Merl1n, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Dyachei, Csargo
Empoof was on Barto too until he hopped off to join me so that wagon looks pretty pure to me.
My vote on Choxorn was only half serious when I made it anyways so I'd rather sheep my town reads at this point than vote on someone I think is probably just rand.
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Merl1n, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Dyachei, Csargo
this is wrong i think. i'm not voting. not sure what else might be wrong
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Newyn, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
Oh shit sorry, got you mixed up with Newyn. At least one of you should get a real avatar.
this is wrong i think. i'm not voting. not sure what else might be wrong
Think he just got us mixed up there.
Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Newyn, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
One of you should get a different avatar imo
Cuthillius
12-07-2019, 00:47
missed my vote
Vote: Ladd
i think he's my strongest suspect
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 00:48
If someone said you could have five bucks if you wanted to wade through the sewers for an hour, would you do it? If not, do you actually want the money at all?
What if someone gave you a hundred bucks but grabbed any loose bills from your pocket?
nah
I am simply having some fun, which is what I joined this game specifically to do
I'll probably end up being too involved in this game in the near future for various reasons but my initial idea was to play low effort and take it easyy
Word.
i'll be honest i've seen you play before and the only thing that really stands out to me about you from past experience is that you're not litten (this is a good thing)
What is that?
No I don't like killing or grilling!
We got him townies and gentlemen. Third party confirmed.
cuth, the sick wolf, is too scared to answer a simple question?
Actually a good observation, but it just means you're observant, NAI.
@gh @zac
what's your choxorn read and when(if) do you feel confident in reading him right?
yes, zack, I already now you think he is a wolf, just wondering how good you are at reading him, I vaguely remember you locking him in as v from spec chat during champs
The one time I recall hard-TRing Choxorn while he was scum was when he pocketed me after killing me. We'll see.
trying to figure out what i think about general. i think i like him going against the grain with his read on me, but it's something i've done as a bad before, almost a refuge in audacity type calling someone out that every other player thinks is good
You're still town-lean IME. Good stuff.
going to spend some time focusing on ppl with votes and figuring out what i think, since it seems a lot more serious on d1 here
Probably not a soft.
I do think Monty looks better, and I'm less comfortable with my company on that wagon
plus Barto is definitely pretty low-key
and I think it's a helpful lynch no matter what
4 votes for Bart, 4 votes for Zelda, 3 votes for me. Satisfying compromise?
Vote: Zelda
Tally:
5 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Newyn, ladd, Cuthillius)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda,)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
Can anybody voting Barto right now tell me why they, individually, think that Barto is scum? Just off the top of your head. No wagon formation nonsense, just tell me - what has Barto done this game that made you think that he is a wolf?
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:50
Monty, shouldn't be considered a soft claim. I was saying that today (right now) would be more active.
GH, unrelated to whatever gut read you have I'm curious how you would describe my wolf play to someone who's never played for me (like, explaining it to merl1n).
Honestly, I'd probably describe it as Not Your Town Game and then go into the process of describing your town game.
I'm going to pretend votals don't exist for about 25 minutes and expect there to be a real one around then.
Pzelda is lock scum here. 100% never rescinding.
Ride with me to a glorious victory! :charge:
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GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:52
Straight up, I'm a bit annoyed that Insaner was like "I HAVE A PERFECT READ ON PZELDA AND HE IS ALWAYS MAFIA HERE" and then immediately walked it back to "well I've read him right 2 out of 3 games" but whatever, riding with this for now.
Honestly, I'd probably describe it as Not Your Town Game and then go into the process of describing your town game.
Do you think I was playing my town game in the DLP multiball game?
Tally:
5 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Newyn, ladd, Cuthillius)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda,)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
Can anybody voting Barto right now tell me why they, individually, think that Barto is scum? Just off the top of your head. No wagon formation nonsense, just tell me - what has Barto done this game that made you think that he is a wolf?
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:53
Do you think I was playing my town game in the DLP multiball game?
I wasn't in that game, so yes? :wacky:
Pzelda is lock scum here. 100% never rescinding.
Ride with me to a glorious victory! :charge:
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Straight up, I'm a bit annoyed that Insaner was like "I HAVE A PERFECT READ ON PZELDA AND HE IS ALWAYS MAFIA HERE" and then immediately walked it back to "well I've read him right 2 out of 3 games" but whatever, riding with this for now.
:on_charm:
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I wasn't in that game, so yes? :wacky:
I thought you were following along with whatever filler post you gave to voxx at I think EoD1.
I kinda think that read is a little archaic but idk how much you know about how shitty I can play
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
oh fuck is this SCOOBS?!
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:55
I thought you were following along with whatever filler post you gave to voxx at I think EoD1.
I kinda think that read is a little archaic but idk how much you know about how shitty I can play
Ah no, Voxx and I were DMing about something at the time and he asked me to do one. I forgot I even made it until this very moment.
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
i think this is kinda good? blatant dodging of any accountability but doing so openly
oh fuck is this SCOOBS?!
No, I'm Newyn. Scoobs is an absolute scrub from what I hear ~;)
Ah no, Voxx and I were DMing about something at the time and he asked me to do one. I forgot I even made it until this very moment.
alright.
Well, idk if we're going to get there on eachother today because I'm malaise and my tryharding at EoD will probably be right in line with wolfmeta.
But I'm down to try and save monty together if it comes to that.
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
I doubt anyone on his wagon has a read on him, lol (other than ladd who is a woof)
No, I'm Newyn. Scoobs is an absolute scrub from what I hear ~;)
well i'm pocketed
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 00:59
alright.
Well, idk if we're going to get there on eachother today because I'm malaise and my tryharding at EoD will probably be right in line with wolfmeta.
But I'm down to try and save monty together if it comes to that.
Consider the alliance sealed.
i think this is kinda good? blatant dodging of any accountability but doing so openly
More just laziness tbh.
Consider the alliance sealed.
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I'll start doing vote manipulation stuff at 4:15
not a claim
I'll start doing vote manipulation stuff at 4:15
not a claim
I would like to use my daily anti-claim kill on Empoof.
He claimed vote manipulator.
insaner, why do you think he's wolf? is this gonna be like why you thought mendel was town?
More just laziness tbh.
yes, it's lazy, but is it the kind of lazy you would do when bad? coming into the game and seeing people you think r good voting for someone, so voting for them feels more plausible than using other ppl as an excuse to vote someone when bad
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:04
Barto est?
EST+1 I believe, maybe 2.
Last I was aware he was in South America.
If Barto flips wolf here this is going to be yikes. But I'm not seeing it. Doesn't look like a wolf lynching wagon formation to me.
EST+1 I believe, maybe 2.
Last I was aware he was in South America.
Alright I'll expect him to join at EoD then
yes, it's lazy, but is it the kind of lazy you would do when bad? coming into the game and seeing people you think r good voting for someone, so voting for them feels more plausible than using other ppl as an excuse to vote someone when bad
I'd probably would do it even if I was scum tbh. I'm the type of player who just does the least work I can whenever I think I can get away with it. Puts me in the poe during midgame alot of the time but I'm used to it by now.
insaner, why do you think he's wolf? is this gonna be like why you thought mendel was town?
I caught more wolves than you did in our hydra game.
Seriously though, I think he is very different from that game where he just entered by clearing pretty much every villager that posted up to that point. Here he seems much more hesitant to give reads/has less conviction, with weird tinfoils and shallow/no explanations for some of them. Since you were also in that game I feel like you should have an opinion on him.
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
Like this read here is just frankly bull. You said you liked his posts, why would everyone else thinking the same make Zack suspicious? It makes no sense. It's like you are on that level where you aware that slapping a lazy town read on Zack might make you look suspicious so you want to add some sort of tinfoil to your read.
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 01:08
Things wolves say about other wolves
if barto is a villager, ignore
Hold ladd to possible m/m for zelda-bart if one flips scum.
Yeah, GH should have a lock-Logic read before EOD1. If I flip opposite of what he called me, GH is a wolf.
I know I've passed on most MU stuff. Walk me through how, as it sounds to me, GH became the next Pizza on your meta.
i have procured a distinctive avatar
Cool.
If Barto flips wolf here this is going to be yikes. But I'm not seeing it. Doesn't look like a wolf lynching wagon formation to me.
Tie Barto and Zelda.
I caught more wolves than you did in our hydra game.
Seriously though, I think he is very different from that game where he just entered by clearing pretty much every villager that posted up to that point. Here he seems much more hesitant to give reads/has less conviction, with weird tinfoils and shallow/no explanations for some of them. Since you were also in that game I feel like you should have an opinion on him.
you were also VERY wrong about the ones you were wrong on. So excuse me if I don't have confidence in your reads without seeing a reason
Countdown to EOD. (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20191207T11&p0=47&font=cursive)
I will update these for every phase change in the OP.
you were also VERY wrong about the ones you were wrong on. So excuse me if I don't have confidence in your reads without seeing a reason
Did you open the spoiler?
reads in spoilers are a scumtell
it's in the bookofneeee
I'd probably would do it even if I was scum tbh. I'm the type of player who just does the least work I can whenever I think I can get away with it. Puts me in the poe during midgame alot of the time but I'm used to it by now.
i can respect that i'm the kind of person that does the least work i can whenever i can get away with it when i'm being paid to do so
reads in spoilers are a scumtell
it's in the bookofneeee
oh
dyachei bad y/n
is there a way to ISO here?
oh
dyachei bad y/n
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
oh
dyachei bad y/n
Probably not, but I think there isn't enough content to say for sure.
and yes, I read the spoiler
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.villagery mindmeld
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:15
I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:
I tried to play anonymously, but Insaner spoiled my identity meanwhile. Also, I haven't read a game of yours till the last champs and I remember you waiting there to get killed by mafia, essentially. Here, it's kind of same, actually. Maybe I should look harder at people dealing out free Zack townreads.
There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
how is her content level different from el barto to you
Somebody was asking earlier about ISOs. This is the closest we've got: the ‘Who's posted? (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=153989)’ feature.
@ dyachei
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
Search thread>Advanced search>Enter player's name and click "Search"
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:16
ISOing is similar to POG, dya.
Gotta go back to the Gameroom index, click on the number of posts, and click on the person's postcount in the window that pops up. One of the sticky threads (the offsite guide) provides pictoral help.
how is her content level different from el barto to you
I don't really understand the question, but I think that barto has given a decent amount of content
Tally:
2 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, )
4 El Barto (Zack, ladd, Cuth, Newyn)
5 PZelda (Insaner, GH, monty, Empoof, Dya)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
Not voting: Csargo
LMK if i've made a mistake.
edited to add dyas/empoofs votes
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression
I guess this got explained meanwhile.
I reread Monty's wall thrice and the only thing, which pings me is the weird remark on GH.
I hope this got expanded.
Empoof's reads make me sleepy. I guess I need to cup of damn good coffee.
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.
Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.
Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.
Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:
I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.
The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
Vote: Montomercy
I kind of hate that he says insaner is posting more as like the only real comment there but then has him as a townread so far but zack is just messing around?
vote: Pzelda
https://media.giphy.com/media/pCO5tKdP22RC8/giphy.gif
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 01:22
Countdown to EOD. (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20191207T11&p0=47&font=cursive)
I will update these for every phase change in the OP.
Native timer don't work?
Vote PZelda
yes.gif
I kind of hate that he says insaner is posting more as like the only real comment there but then has him as a townread so far but zack is just messing around?
vote: Pzelda
No no no, too many votes!
merlin, can you explain exactly why you believe ladd to be scum?
Native timer don't work?
yes.gif
No no no, too many votes!
the timer is a magical fickle being of immense power
i will try messing with it for the night phase but ive only had poor results in the past
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression
I guess this got explained meanwhile.
I reread Monty's wall thrice and the only thing, which pings me is the weird remark on GH.
I hope this got expanded.
Empoof's reads make me sleepy. I guess I need to cup of damn good coffee.
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
talk to me about choxorn?
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:25
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
Pretty much same.
Would feel kinda bad about Choxorn going down but that's mostly because I think I can get him with another day. Would certainly prefer him to ladd if it comes to it.
merlin, can you explain exactly why you believe ladd to be scum?
i can try but it's more a feeling than something i can explain well. he made a bunch of posts that made me feel a similar way after reading them. like he'd ask a question or make a statement but it felt like there was no purpose or intent to the thing he posted. then there was him constantly claiming to be bad and making jokes about it and it felt like a deflection from the fact that he wasn't actually doing anything then he made sure to remind us multiple times about how he actually does care about the game now and it just all felt like performance art
logic made a post that explains some of the things i agreed with better than i can
talk to me about choxorn?
Was sheeping zack mostly, iso's lackluster/flat, remember disliking some idea they were putting out on a holistic sense
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:27
My brain hurts after trying to make sense of some 370 posts. Does anybody want to ask me anything?
also El Barto have we played together before? did you have a different username?
Takhitty on MU, actually.
4 votes for Bart, 4 votes for Zelda, 3 votes for me. Satisfying compromise?
Vote: Zelda
Tally:
5 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Newyn, ladd, Cuthillius)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
2 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda,)
2 Choxorn (Newyn, Empoof)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
Can anybody voting Barto right now tell me why they, individually, think that Barto is scum? Just off the top of your head. No wagon formation nonsense, just tell me - what has Barto done this game that made you think that he is a wolf?
Thanks for the possibly pocketing defence, but what the hell are you doing with the tally?
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:28
My brain hurts after trying to make sense of some 370 posts. Does anybody want to ask me anything?
Got any mafia? Top town? Why?
Was sheeping zack mostly, iso's lackluster/flat, remember disliking some idea they were putting out on a holistic sense
are they someone that tends to slank as a wolf?
I feel like I've played with tahkitty before. Or hosted some game you were in.
I have questions on how you feel about current wagons / any updates on opinions
are they someone that tends to slank as a wolf?
No idea, haven't ever played with them before
i kind of like the 1 post by them that challenges insaner but there's like...no content to look at
ladd
You're going nowhere with your scum-reads, as if you are afraid to commit. However:
You've got some subtle shade on Pzelda that looks like you are reluctant to vote there.
You hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.
You are reluctant to to do anything with a probable Barto scum-read, instead deferring to others for meta.
You give a out of nowhere ">rand Fable/Barto W/W" and don't follow up.
I feel like you are taking pot shots to see what sticks rahter than actually solving.
this was the post of logic's that i thought made logic good and that i agreed with almost all of. the last line in particular put into words what i was thinking when i saw ladd post
Oh yeah it was the whole "who are these wolfy people pushing barto?" line they were trying to soft push insaner for.
Felt like it dragged longer than it should have.
pretty sure if i've played with takhitty it was in some larger game or something because i dont remember it well
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:31
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
Oh yeah it was the whole "who are these wolfy people pushing barto?" line they were trying to soft push insaner for.
Felt like it dragged longer than it should have.
see i didnt mind that much but there's like nothing else he's done
soery
fell asleep, I am 1 page behind
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
Good to know, thanks.
Still think he's kinda wolfy.
I've been clicking on a few isos but I'm too tired rn to reevaluate anything. I'm too rooted in my pzelda/ladd/GH/Cuth wolves world, I doubt I can proceed without flips. My latest read lists mostly stands, with the changes being: Cuth is now a wolf read, Logic is a confident villager, Egix>dya>Fable all feel kinda villagery but just don't have enough content to lock them in.
Not really a fan of Choxorn's posts but they're pretty much rand today so doesn't really give us much even if he flips scum.
Still a better lynch than ladd though.
soery
fell asleep, I am 1 page behind
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
I've been clicking on a few isos but I'm too tired rn to reevaluate anything. I'm too rooted in my pzelda/ladd/GH/Cuth wolves world, I doubt I can proceed without flips. My latest read lists mostly stands, with the changes being: Cuth is now a wolf read, Logic is a confident villager, Egix>dya>Fable all feel kinda villagery but just don't have enough content to lock them in.
If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
I can see Logic and merlin as villagers maybe, sell me on the other 2.
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
as always
which is why I have given up on going hard after my voters when iften theree is not even 1 a wolf there
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
egix?
If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before
he powerwolfs to a fault. just ask him about mion and shion...
I can see Logic and merlin as villagers maybe, sell me on the other 2.
egix reluctance (trying to find the right word for this) towards Zack about reading them feels baseline villagery
Fable has a really good avatar, like really good.
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
This is the first I've heard of a Choxorn line. The rest sounds about right to me.
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 01:39
i don't think i like ladd putting himself in the middle of a list of people that have been "villagery". i've included myself when talking about people i think are good before but it's always either at the start or the end, being in the middle feels artificial instead of natural
I've pointed out that ladd did this very thing (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2053800335#post2053800335)!!!!
What say you.
Hmmm
I actually started on forum so I don't really recall ever experiencing this problem
I guess you'll just overcome it with experience.
Never have.
Thanks for the possibly pocketing defence, but what the hell are you doing with the tally?
It's not a tally, I'm saying tie Barto with Zelda.
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
I don't know if Choxorn should eponymize this line, since in the past most players clustered on that end of the distribution. :laugh:
tbf egix is my lowest villagery feeling on ladd's wagon. But I think it's potentially all villa on town!ladd and wolves aren't touching it.
Which gives me sad vibes for how today will end.
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:40
Got any mafia? Top town? Why?
Well, fun fact, there's a lot of people I don't know so I don't know how to read them yet. There's a lot of fluff there, from the people I know… Zack's playing so within his meta that he can be anything. Choxorn, well, as you point out, yes, but he's fluffy.
Cuthillius looks town, you… cannot tell, the rest is up for grabs.
But in my brain-fried state I want to vote Insaner simply because of -as I quoted- whatever he's doing with the tallies. Seriously, Monty posts one vote and in the immediate next one Insaner misrepresents Monty's vote in the tally, has been going on about how wolfy people who vote for me are, and then misrepresents Monty as voting for me.
Can we have a real one?
vote:Insaner
fake edit: freaking xposts there's over a dozen posts I haven't read since #631 already.
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:41
It's not a tally, I'm saying tie Barto with Zelda.
Look at my quote! You posted a vote for zelda and then he misquoted you… or did he? I know you in particular are in favour of allowing multiple usernames for voting.
egix reluctance (trying to find the right word for this) towards Zack about reading them feels baseline villagery
Fable has a really good avatar, like really good.
I'm more of a fan of dya's avatar personally. Fable feels abit too wolfy to me.
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Newyn)
5 PZelda (Insaner, GH, monty, Dya, Ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
1 CHoxorn (Empoof)
Not voting: Csargo
LMK if i've made a mistake.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:42
Look at my quote! You posted a vote for zelda and then he misquoted you… or did he? I know you in particular are in favour of allowing multiple usernames for voting.
Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.
Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?
If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before
Perhaps this is correct. I'm wolf reading pzelda more tham I'm wolf reading GH. But I don't like GH's vote on him regardless of pzelda's alignment. He had him as null, then immediately voted him when I told him to sheep me but never commented on my read that I included in that post or any other posts of pzelda. If GH is a wolf, then I kinda feel like his vote looks more suspicious if pzelda is scum then if he's isn't, just because it wouldn't feel right to him to just blindly sheep a vote on a villager without ever talking about the person he is voting. Puts him in a bad spot when that person flips villager. But if pzelda is a wolf, then this vote in fact makes him look good, and they might even not be lynched as there are other competitive wagons and GH has other wolves on his team to save pzelda.
Maybe GH is just a villager, but like. Why avoid discussing pzelda in this case?
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:42
Perhaps this is correct. I'm wolf reading pzelda more tham I'm wolf reading GH. But I don't like GH's vote on him regardless of pzelda's alignment. He had him as null, then immediately voted him when I told him to sheep me but never commented on my read that I included in that post or any other posts of pzelda. If GH is a wolf, then I kinda feel like his vote looks more suspicious if pzelda is scum then if he's isn't, just because it wouldn't feel right to him to just blindly sheep a vote on a villager without ever talking about the person he is voting. Puts him in a bad spot when that person flips villager. But if pzelda is a wolf, then this vote in fact makes him look good, and they might even not be lynched as there are other competitive wagons and GH has other wolves on his team to save pzelda.
Maybe GH is just a villager, but like. Why avoid discussing pzelda in this case?
Did you see later on where I ISO'd pzelda and started scumreading him on my own?
I'm more of a fan of dya's avatar personally. Fable feels abit too wolfy to me.
thanks! it's a drawing shadon made of my cat (who happens to be sitting next to me)
Vote: Choxorn
I demand a free pass for the rest of the game if Cho flip mafia. Empoof is clearly just bussing his partner.
GH chill on Choxorn for me for science.
i am here but my brain is not
looks like I'll just have to self pres and not do any thinking since the wagon on me is there to stay
Vote: Choxorn
I demand a free pass for the rest of the game if Cho flip mafia. Empoof is clearly just bussing his partner.
I'll give you until day 4 and then we'll cite some game you bussed and it'll be thrown out.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:44
GH chill on Choxorn for me for science.
:stupido:
Vote: Choxorn
dya, what's your read on me?
i am here but my brain is not
looks like I'll just have to self pres and not do any thinking since the wagon on me is there to stay
you're lame.
Grab some tea.
I'll give you until day 4 and then we'll cite some game you bussed and it'll be thrown out.
I've reformed honest. I havn't bussed since yesterday.
Did you see later on where I ISO'd pzelda and started scumreading him on my own?
No, can you quote it?
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
2 El Barto (Zack, Cuth)
4 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, Ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
3 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn, GH)
Not voting: Csargo
LMK if i've made a mistake.
dya, what's your read on me?
idk yet. I haven't paid a ton of attention to you yet
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:46
I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:
There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.
Here, Insaner.
Click through to read the quote within.
I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:
There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.
asd
idk yet. I haven't paid a ton of attention to you yet
really?
I am about to be lunched
csargo usually no vote this late into the day?
thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:48
thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?
NAI, I think.
really?
I am about to be lunched
I should iso you but my motivation has been a little low today
really?
I am about to be lunched
you pull some AtE stuff while I'm cfding and I'll be upset. I can't read emotion. Buck up, there's like 3 other wagons that are better than yours so regardless of your alignment work with me fucko
I'm nervous
i don't believe you
i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait
I've only ISO'd 2 of the wagons and there are like 4 of them
thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?
No idea.
Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.
Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?
Hey what. Do you really think I would try to manipulate vote tally with this much time until EoD? This is bull.
i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait
this makes a lot of assumptions
this makes a lot of assumptions
like what?
i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait
Zack/GH aren't living passed day 3 if they're town.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:49
i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait
Give him a day, I think.
Though if it ends up being you/him then I'm going for him.
NAI, I think.
really? seems kind of suicidal to do if bad, removes your vote from a possible alternative and makes your wagon more relatively appealing
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:50
Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.
Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?
thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?
As GH says, instalynch when playing on brainfried mode and not knowing what the real tally was.
i don't believe you
You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:51
Zack/GH aren't living passed day 3 if they're town.
Already planning the nightkill, eh.
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 01:51
Mafia CFD on Chox?
csargo usually no vote this late into the day?
Yes.
like what?
that zack/gh are good, that everyone involved is alive? it seems to operate under the assumption that you can trust zack/gh to be correct when they could be bad
Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.
Has all the signs.
Has the not great posts.
Probably got my teeth in the right thing.
Already planning the nightkill, eh.
I'm the 3p's kill
that zack/gh are good, that everyone involved is alive? it seems to operate under the assumption that you can trust zack/gh to be correct when they could be bad
i think both are villas, esp zack and it seems unlikely they are both dead by d2
so I don't see the problem
You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.
so why did you say you were nervous? you've been pretty consistent and adamant about your reads, so it reads as a fake statement
Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.
Has all the signs.
Has the not great posts.
Probably got my teeth in the right thing.
ok
vote:choxorn
As GH says, instalynch when playing on brainfried mode and not knowing what the real tally was.
Yo. I posted what the actual tally was. Monty was just talking about what he wished the tally would have been. He confirmed it. I also messed up the tally a couple times before, but people corrected me and I changed them. Stopped doing them since because the votes are moving all the time.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:52
Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.
Has all the signs.
Has the not great posts.
Probably got my teeth in the right thing.
I'm hopping off in a couple minutes back on pzelda, FYI.
You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.
you really think I am w/w with pzelda?
Choxorn > PZelda > Barto is my order.
I'm not liking barto lynch for today anymore.
PZelda I'm getting weird wagon formation vibes about.
Hum dee dum.
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 01:53
I mean, I would more or less back Zack and GH on their Choxorn meta. So...
reading el barto now and it seems pretty empty?
I'm hopping off in a couple minutes back on pzelda, FYI.
You disappoint me, good sir.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:53
I'm gonna laugh so hard when it's Choxorn and he flips something like "Mafia N1 ONLY vig".
so why did you say you were nervous? you've been pretty consistent and adamant about your reads, so it reads as a fake statement
IF PZELDA FLIPS TOWN I WILL CUT MY VEINS
JOIN ME IN GLOOOORYYYYY :charge:
https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf6a1501039d8383056284973204068/tenor.gif
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:55
Vote: pzelda
I'm gonna laugh so hard when it's Choxorn and he flips something like "Mafia N1 ONLY vig".
I'll quote this post after his flip and vote you.
Might catch another wolf joining in
reading through choxorn now. idg why people feel the need to stir up another option when we had a bunch of options as is
not sure I can finish this before EOD so stopping now
would rather be able to be around the last few minutes
you really think I am w/w with pzelda?
I think ur woof. I think pzelda is a woof. So I guess? But it's not an assosiative read.
Where's my "Empoof is the best at Day 1" clout
How do I teach these kids
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:56
pzelda > choxorn >>>>>>> el barto >> ladd
in order of preference
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo)
4 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
3 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn, ladd)
LMK if i've made a mistake.
i guess pzelda can be lynched, but i think a lot of people pushing/voting them are suspicious
pzelda > choxorn >>>>>>> el barto >> ladd
in order of preference
So close
Hopefully my feelings about zelda are wrong then
Vote:pzelda
Kinda purely a "Ladd has almost 100 posts and if he did flip village and died cuz of me when I'm not paying attention and mostly memeing I'd feel shitty about that" vote and zelda's posts aren't great.
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:57
Yo. I posted what the actual tally was. Monty was just talking about what he wished the tally would have been. He confirmed it. I also messed up the tally a couple times before, but people corrected me and I changed them. Stopped doing them since because the votes are moving all the time.
OK…? My vote on you is effectively null. If anybody can convince me to vote for any of the candidates, please do so, otherwise I'm staying put. I really cannot tell whom to vote and I need my remaining functioning neurons to switch gears right after EOD for a RL Thing™ so the less I wear them out the better.
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:57
Vote:pzelda
Kinda purely a "Ladd has almost 100 posts and if he did flip village and died cuz of me when I'm not paying attention and mostly memeing I'd feel shitty about that" vote and zelda's posts aren't great.
Looks like the cavalry arrived just in time, team. :charge:
i guess pzelda can be lynched, but i think a lot of people pushing/voting them are suspicious
didnt like their seeming incongruity and insaner might actually be right - he's not willing to take stances
IF PZELDA FLIPS TOWN I WILL CUT MY VEINS
JOIN ME IN GLOOOORYYYYY :charge:
https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf6a1501039d8383056284973204068/tenor.gif
livestream?
OK…? My vote on you is effectively null. If anybody can convince me to vote for any of the candidates, please do so, otherwise I'm staying put. I really cannot tell whom to vote and I need my remaining functioning neurons to switch gears right after EOD for a RL Thing™ so the less I wear them out the better.
Vote ladd dude
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo)
5 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, GH, Fable)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
3 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn, ladd)
LMK if i've made a mistake.
If PZelda is town I deserve the night kill
@ Medic
If PZelda is town I deserve the night kill
@ Medic
if pzelda is town, you won't be night killed
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo)
6 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn)
LMK if i've made a mistake.
if pzelda is town, you won't be night killed
See you in postgame
i think ladd is a wolf and his late jump onto pzelda makes me uncomfortable but probably too late now. hope i'm wrong!
GeneralHankerchief
12-07-2019, 01:59
Feeling decent. Glad to be back here.
GL, here's hoping.
barto cares so little about surviving and it's actually starting to seem kinda wolfy
El Barto
12-07-2019, 01:59
Vote ladd dude
Why?
a bit late but I'd have cfded egix
Staying off wagon, there's enough without me.
Really think Choxorn is the hit we missed.
Kinda disappointed, but let's hope PZelda hits glgl
a bit late but I'd have cfded egix
LMAOOOO
Montmorency
12-07-2019, 02:00
Not chaos, honest. Carry on.
Vote: Barto
Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
4 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo, Monty)
5 PZelda (Insaner, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn)
LMK if i've made a mistake.
El Barto
12-07-2019, 02:01
WAGONOMICS
*shrugs* vote: ladd
C'mon do your bit.
El Barto
12-07-2019, 02:02
lol
PZelda was lynched.
They were:
The Princess!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/54/23/8d5423d8136c4d169d65105d412d8eaa.jpg
They were mafia!
24 hours for night.
Obviously do NOT post at night, thanks.
El Barto was killed.
They were:
The Diviner!
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/5b/8f/29/5b8f2938d32535134ace3f68490a437b.jpg
They were mafia!
Empoof was killed.
They were:
The Priest!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/f8/00/c6f800c085cd61c55b1d2caed0b4bc9c.jpg
They were town!
48 hours for day.
Alive 14/17:
1. Montmorency
2. Csargo
4. Choxorn
5. Zack
6. GeneralHankerchief
7. Logic
8. Dyachei
10. Fable
11. ladd
12. Cuthillius
13. Egix
14. Newyn
16. Insaner
17. merl1n
Dead 3/17:
9. Pzelda, Princess, Mafia, lynched D1.
15. Empoof, Priest, Town, died N1.
3. El Barto, Diviner, Mafia, died N1.
It is DAY. You may post.
GeneralHankerchief
12-08-2019, 02:05
Cool. I was a bit worried about Poof there too, so that'll remove some tinfoil.
Will look into vote movements, etc tomorrow probably.
GeneralHankerchief
12-08-2019, 02:11
Considering Barro's flip, I'm locking Zack in as town. Insaner too for the lunch. Logic is still town, Fable is almost certainly town.
Good core to start with, think we should look at people not in there and see where the game takes us for quite a while.
people not voting pzelda or el barto at day end: choxorn, logic, egix, merl1n, newyn
i know im good and i think logic and newyn are good. that leaves choxorn and egix
i still think it could be ladd, but i need to read with the information that el barto was bad and see what that changes. ladd and choxorn were options to vote but the top 2 vote getters were both bad. feels meaningful
El Barto
12-08-2019, 02:24
The players hastened to loot the Diviner's body of any valuables.
As they stretched towards it, the body vanished into smoke, and in its place was left a yellowing, rolled-up parchment.
After poking it with a ten-foot laser pole, they unfurled it. In it were the following words:
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
:bow:
This is a farewell post, a tradition here.
The players hastened to loot the Diviner's body of any valuables.
As they stretched towards it, the body vanished into smoke, and in its place was left a yellowing, rolled-up parchment.
After poking it with a ten-foot laser pole, they unfurled it. In it were the following words:
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
:bow:
wtf. dead ppl can talk? are you still alive?
GeneralHankerchief
12-08-2019, 02:29
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
4 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo, Monty)
5 PZelda (Insaner, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 Choxorn (Empoof, Newyn)
Wonder if the game's just easy.
Barto ended up on Insaner, pretty late too. That was kind of weird considering the circumstances but Insaner's 99% town anyway so I'm not looking into it any further.
Here's pzelda's vote on Monty, early on in the phase:
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.
Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.
Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.
Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:
I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.
The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
Vote: Montomercy
I think this is a strong look for Monty, considering that he and Barto were the two main wagons early on in the phase. Pzelda's townreads are also worth noting. Insaner is town, Poof is flipped town, Egix and Merl1n are there and unflipped. I feel like there has to be one partner in there. I know that I wasn't a big fan of Merl1n yesterday relative to the thread but haven't really looked at his posts yet in-depth.
2. Csargo
4. Choxorn
5. Zack
11. ladd
12. Cuthillius
13. Egix
14. Newyn
17. merl1n
Scum probably in here. Let's get this list pared down even more.
Vote: Egix
GeneralHankerchief
12-08-2019, 02:29
wtf. dead ppl can talk? are you still alive?
It's just a customary one final post, he's dead.
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