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I should feel great about the Egix lynch, almost all the evidence points to him and yet I am still not sure he is a wolf at all :shrug:
maybe I am just making my life harder and it's that easy
I should feel great about the Egix lynch, almost all the evidence points to him and yet I am still not sure he is a wolf at all :shrug:
maybe I am just making my life harder and it's that easy
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Anyone else have their browser threaten to crash and slow immediately when clicking on the Org tab?
because it's driving me nuts and making it hard for me to do more than read current posts
Anyone else have their browser threaten to crash and slow immediately when clicking on the Org tab?
because it's driving me nuts and making it hard for me to do more than read current posts
chrome likes this site a lot more than firefox does for me if that helps
i guess i dont understand why egix doesnt vote for cuth as good or as bad here
the thing with cuth is that I think his posts are more focused on trying to look villagery than actually solving the game
Like all his reads have some kind of nuance that just looks overthought and fake
Stuff like "I can't explain it but it just feels that way", "I should have a read on him but I don't", etc..
We have 2 flipped wolves and he is making reads like that, just doesn't seem real
Also like I just don't get the impression he is trying to solve the game like lots of other people
Granted I don't think his posts are horrible per se and I am not sure he is a wolf but :stare:
With the way Egix left the thread I guess he is ~always the lynch anyway and frankly I don't mind it
i guess he might not have known how many votes ppl had, the post from host ws after his vote
i guess i dont understand why egix doesnt vote for cuth as good or as bad here
As good, it matters to him that he votes accurately.
As good, it matters to him that he votes accurately.
voting for someone that cld be a bad is better than letting himself die tho if he knows hes good?
As good, it matters to him that he votes accurately.
its also counter to his previous reads, he called logic a pet town read
Cuthillius
12-09-2019, 23:09
the thing with cuth is that I think his posts are more focused on trying to look villagery than actually solving the game
Like all his reads have some kind of nuance that just looks overthought and fake
Stuff like "I can't explain it but it just feels that way", "I should have a read on him but I don't", etc..
We have 2 flipped wolves and he is making reads like that, just doesn't seem real
Also like I just don't get the impression he is trying to solve the game like lots of other people
Granted I don't think his posts are horrible per se and I am not sure he is a wolf but :stare:
have we
played together before
does ne1 have strong opinions on csargo
voting for someone that cld be a bad is better than letting himself die tho if he knows hes good?
There are still 3 hours until deadline.
its also counter to his previous reads, he called logic a pet town read
That's why it makes even less sense for scum Egix to vote town Logic here, no? Cuz Logic is less likely to get lynched over him and his reads don't force him to vote there over Cuth.
have we
played together before
dunno maybe in some mashes, but I remember nothing regardless
Ftr I'm actually a vt. Don't let anybody convince you otherwise!
There are still 3 hours until deadline.
That's why it makes even less sense for scum Egix to vote town Logic here, no? Cuz Logic is less likely to get lynched over him and his reads don't force him to vote there over Cuth.
maybe hes trying to be the lynch as bad? doesnt think he can win so trying to limit info. mayb even bad w/ cuth and trying to be lynch over him. idk just thinking
Ftr I'm actually a vt. Don't let anybody convince you otherwise!
what is the purpose of this?
maybe hes trying to be the lynch as bad? doesnt think he can win so trying to limit info. mayb even bad w/ cuth and trying to be lynch over him. idk just thinking
Is that what makes the most sense if Egix is scum?
does ne1 have strong opinions on csargo
I do. I think he's a wolf
what is the purpose of this?
I just don't want to get pr hunted is all.
Villagers
ladd
Zack
Insaner
Gh
Fable
Logic
Monty
Villagery:
merl1n - I get that his voting/reads sucked d1 but I still think his posts are mostly fine + empoof top villa read
dya - sorry zack but she seems fine to me. Wouldn't clear her yet but not a good lynch today
PoE
newyin - if he is a wolf, it's probably with cuth imo. And it's not just for the defense
Csargo - not a wolf with dya and probably not with cuth either
Egix - could still go both ways, wish he would come back and answer my questions but alas he probably dies today
Cuth - shrug
Choxorn:
CHoxorn- hardclaimed tracker, self resolving
Tiers are not ordered
Ladd, why is GH good iyo?
I do. I think he's a wolf
what do u think about ppl with multiple votes on them atm? sorry if youve covered this recently, i dont remember your stance on every player
Ladd, why is GH good iyo?
his posts are villagery and he pushed 2 wolves yesterday just after wolfing for 2 weeks and being probably exausted of wolfing
but like his posts today are just really villagery, I can go more in detail if all 3 of us are alive tomorrow but it's not really my priority rn
he is fairly obvious imo
wasn t logic one of your top town reads earlier?
and you had dya as null and cuth as a possible wolf
sup?
Not top tr, just a town lean
I didn't like his attitude in a certain post he made earlier, it didn't seem like town!logic to me
Cuthillius
12-09-2019, 23:19
I do. I think he's a wolf
oh hey dya
could you please tell ladd that i talk the way i do normally
thanks <3
Not top tr, just a town lean
I didn't like his attitude in a certain post he made earlier, it didn't seem like town!logic to me
what post?
Csargo is probably not a wolf.
I'm still reading through the thread, I've had a busy few days, but my impressions so far:
Zack's opening was strong, but that's to be expected, Zack's a strong player. I'm hesitant to prematurely say he's town, but everything points in that direction. He spews sunshine and rainbows.
Empoof seems in a similar vein to Zack, nothing gives me pause about their play so far. Though I'm not familiar with Empoof's play in general, but from my perspective it's all been good so far.
I'm okay with merl1n, Insaner, and Logic overall. I don't particularly think Insaner's "I'm townier, answer my question." was productive, but to each their own. Other than that I haven't read anything from Insaner that would make me think negatively. merl1n just seems pure and engaged, it's refreshing, nothing negative to say about any of their contributions honestly. Logic's opening was meh, but his recent postings were pretty good I thought, and that makes me think he's town.
I agree with Zack's meta read of Barto's behavior, generally I'd expect Barto to vote Insaner there. It probably doesn't mean much, but it seemed cautious to me, which is unexpected from Barto. I might be reading too much into it though.
GH's opening bothered me initially, a bit generic maybe? or just fell flat with me I'm not sure exactly how to describe it. Plus his interaction with Zack about Insaner seemed odd to me. I generally agree with what he posted this morning, so I'm a bit torn overall about how to feel.
Monty is an enigma. I'm not sure how to feel about him currently.
I don't have much else, but I'll continue reading.
Vote: El Barto
Not top tr, just a town lean
I didn't like his attitude in a certain post he made earlier, it didn't seem like town!logic to me
go more in detail please on what you didn't like. Why over cuth and dya who were 2 of your 3 suspects early in the day?
also like can you answer if you went back to check your rc or just remember it? I know it's a dumb question but it's bothering me
I really wanna know if I gotta defend you friendo
his posts are villagery and he pushed 2 wolves yesterday just after wolfing for 2 weeks and being probably exausted of wolfing
but like his posts today are just really villagery, I can go more in detail if all 3 of us are alive tomorrow but it's not really my priority rn
he is fairly obvious imo
Have you read my big post where I proved that he actually hasn't pushed any of the 2 wolves at all?
Do you think GH usually struggles with making villagery posts as wolf?
Have you read my big post where I proved that he actually hasn't pushed any of the 2 wolves at all?
Do you think GH usually struggles with making villagery posts as wolf?
dunno, I haven't seen him wolf much, I assume he is good at it by rep but in the games we played together I did just fine getting there on him being a villager
sure, he didn't hard push them, but he still pushed them and still did nothing to save either of them
What am I still doing here
oh hey dya
could you please tell ladd that i talk the way i do normally
thanks <3
sure. you're talking the way you normally do. This game would be a lot easier if people actually read my posts because I pointed that out with a post of yours earlier. I also still have you as null for other reasons but your tone is just Cuth tone
Whoever asked about people with multiple votes - I havent read egix's iso yet but I haven't liked his reactions in thread. I just think csargo's treatment of the flipped wolves looks really bad. Cuth I still have as null since I'm feeling pretty mixed about him rn
i forgot why i thought monty was good, but found some posts from pzelda that reinforced that. pretty strong read
Should probably just go to bed tbh.
tried to grab the quotes that have substance from csargo. But like this entire post is hedgy af. He gives himself an out at every turn.
he even talks about that here
good vote though
but again, he's afraid to clear people
Here are today's reads and they feel pretty...safe? like it's not saying a lot to me in either direction
But here he's starting to get spicy with GH and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I think overall maybe a slight scum lean? feels like he was trying to give himself an out on the barto read (though he did vote there later) and he's afraid to town read people
Insaner
he gives himself an out for that barto read - basically gives himself a way to escape the responsibility of voting/reading barto as scum. I don't think it's all that clearing. I talked about it in the above post.
like maybe don't assume that there's nothing of value in my posts and actually read them. I already discussed csargo, discussed cuth.
strong good:
zack
montemorency
ladd
insaner
general
probably good:
fable
newyn
reasons to think both:
logic
cuth
csargo
dyachei
would be voting w/o claim:
choxorn
probably bad:
egix
Insaner
he gives himself an out for that barto read - basically gives himself a way to escape the responsibility of voting/reading barto as scum. I don't think it's all that clearing. I talked about it in the above post.
in his defense, he does vote Barto
idk I just kinda have a soft spot for people who buss and do ~nothing with it cause it's just not a good play a lot of the times
sometimes wolves do it but generally it comes from the villagers that the wolves need to mislynch
I am still pretty null on csargo regardless. Do you have a read on egix?
Insaner
he gives himself an out for that barto read - basically gives himself a way to escape the responsibility of voting/reading barto as scum. I don't think it's all that clearing. I talked about it in the above post.
Yeah and then he doesn't use that out and votes him lol.
vote: csargo
:deal2:
You want to make a deal? Sure, sounds good.
also when I asked you about why you chose to ISO the people ini the order you did, I was more talking about why out of the null you decided to went with csargo (or whoever, I forgot), cuth second, etc..
sorry if it wasn't clear
I thought you'd ISO egix first since he was the hottest topic and the player most people agreed was a wolf
also when I asked you about why you chose to ISO the people ini the order you did, I was more talking about why out of the null you decided to went with csargo (or whoever, I forgot), cuth second, etc..
sorry if it wasn't clear
I thought you'd ISO egix first since he was the hottest topic and the player most people agreed was a wolf
went= go*
went with csagro first*
not my best written sentence
Listen to me, wolves.
I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.
I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.
Your move, wolves.
Cuthillius
12-09-2019, 23:42
Listen to me, wolves.
I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.
I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.
Your move, wolves.
i have no words
Yeah and then he doesn't use that out and votes him lol.
and I talked about that, too. But he may have felt like there were enough people on barto to bus at that point. I just dont like the way he hedges a ton of his reads
ladd
I went with people with smaller numbers of posts first
bleh i hate this vote, I think csargo is a villager
i’m trying to find a decent cw to egix but having trouble finding one I feel good about
Why would you ever read your partners posts, you already know their alignment
:book2:
:book2:
Cuth was also my first thought after deciding csargo isn't a wolf
But I need to keep up appearances to keep the wolves off my scent after I shoot cuth tonight instead of dya
ladd you wanna join my cult?
me and gh are just chillin in the cult QT right now
Oh that's right, I remembered wrong.
It was actually this: I thought that {Fable, Logic} ({town, town} both then and now) was an overall purer wagon than {Zelda, Bart, Cuth} which I had as {null-town, null, null-scum} at the time.
this is what I liked the most about egix today and what is giving me pause on him despite his awful posts
he first said that he voted me because he felt I wa smore likely to go through than monty
but then when monty asks him a question, he "remembers" what was the actual reason (the one I am quoting)
idk, it just seems like such a weird thing to fake as a wolf
ladd you wanna join my cult?
me and gh are just chillin in the cult QT right now
https://i.imgur.com/V5dfm4W.gif
this is what I liked the most about egix today and what is giving me pause on him despite his awful posts
he first said that he voted me because he felt I wa smore likely to go through than monty
but then when monty asks him a question, he "remembers" what was the actual reason (the one I am quoting)
idk, it just seems like such a weird thing to fake as a wolf
maybe he didn't want to be on the same wagon as the other three wolves ~:handball:
maybe he didn't want to be on the same wagon as the other three wolves ~:handball:
ya I guess
tbh he didn't really strike me as the type of wolf that would have the balls to go after me esp since we played together before but who knows
also dya, idk if you missed it or just didn't have time to asnwer, but when you got time can you read egix posts and tell me what's your read on him?
ya I guess
tbh he didn't really strike me as the type of wolf that would have the balls to go after me esp since we played together before but who knows
after we're sitting here on day 2 with two dead wolves and one dead villager, I've already braced myself for a mislynch + misvig as a palate cleanser before we right the ship and find the remaining wolves, then our cult sweeps in and wins by parity.
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 00:19
PART I
I remember back when the org didn't have custom avatars
We chose from a limited selection of tiny total war themed portraits and we liked it
*harrumphs furiously* :smug:
Why did you ask that question, specifically?
Future background information. Chekhov's gun?
Logic's reads on ladd
Don't really have much to say here, I think ladd is town. Logic's allowed to be wrong.
It's not so much the content of the ladd case but Logic "taking potshots" relative to the game state. Maybe a more restricted scope of engagement.
I had a light gut read on Empoof.
What was the night kill challenge about?
Montmorency
The reason I avoided you earlier was because I like to intentionally fail to answer questions and see if the person asking follows up and demands from me an answer.
Oh yeah, I remember. Odd timing to drop that in its own post after the fact though!
I'm not sure why you've picked this particular point to shade, as I don't understand a town or a scum motivation for it.
It's just an aside. You know how I like my asides.
Only town reads were consensus: TRUE
Shaded you and Cuth: TRUE
Voted LAdd with hard attacks: TRUE
Consistent with Logic's scum meta: FALSE
Well, if you say so? Eventually I will study the archive. One thing that gives me pause, Logic, is that when we were in 2018 Hydra and you played as LogiCzar, and I was mislynched D1, you were like the only player I correctly scumread. Technically two players, but... And I can't quite TR you right now.
C'mon Monty. You should know this. You saw how I was in chess and how hopelessly flawed my scumgame is.
*grumbling intensifies*
Just thinking about the ways this game still can be lost. With both wolves being already caught and all that.
?
I'm vt btw
Voice and vote, voice and vote!
i just want to note, for the record, that "frozen" seems a really, really, tunnely way to look at my posts today
and maybe it's just because i've not had a ton of time to post in and so it feels like i've said a lot more than i have without that context
but i certainly don't think i've been inactive or like
giving up/deflating nearly like i would as a wolf in this situation even
pretty sure i've made, like, a pretty reasonable chunk of posts/words this phase
OK, I went too far. You're not that out of it.
Town
Zack
Fable
Insaner
Choxorn
Choxorn
Probably town
Logic
Montmorency
ladd
Low town
Cuth
merl1n
idk my bff jill
Csargo
dya
Newyn
Mafia
Egix
[...]
My dropping Logic down a category is more of a holistic sense of how I feel the game going more than any post or posts he's made. I've noticed in general quite a bit of friction between the three GITPers (Logic, Cuth, and Newyn) in terms of trying to find each other in the game, a friction that I do not believe would be as present if all three were town. My having Logic at least one category above the other two people speaks to how I still feel about him, but it's a feeling I can't quite shake.
I thought being unable to lock Logic D1 is fatal for GH.
Choxorn is his own category. If he's actually a tracker, the mafia can't afford to leave him alive indefinitely. If he's not, then we'll know.
What if he's a Mafia tracker? I just don't believe a town tracker drops in at the beginning of D2 in this gamestate and says 'Hi, I'm a tracker, here's my first result.' I keep thinking "refuge in audacity," did someone say that in this game? Just keep it in the back of your head.
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 00:19
PART II
i
really like dya's posting today and i can't figure out why
there's not the (overly) stereotypical single-minded push on a suspect or frustration that often gets her v-read
and that and other peoples' opinions have typically formed a decent chunk of my opinion on her in the past
but i have a hard time seeing her as a wolf here and now and it almost bothers me a little
maybe just those anni host soulreads who knows
Hmm...
This is the kind of post I most strongly associate with town-Cuth, but I'm not sure why, or what to do with that.
Also, I doubt there are any 3p in this game
why
this is the post that made me think "yeah logic is a villager"
"I like to intentionally fail to answer questions and see if the person asking follows up and demands from me an answer" what wolf ever says/does this
Huh. GH said the literal exact same thing today (search my post). Seriously, does that mean something?
...
Wait, what the fuck? This is what happens when you construct the post out of order. Forget it.
I guess there is an outside chance of cuth/newyn/csargo or choxorn chicanery but I just don't really believe it
I still think it's egix + dya, just like I did during the night and at SOD
now's the part where village implodes on itself after the hot start and rams home three mislynches in a row and my reads are butt :coffeenews:
Part of this post will stand the test of time.
hey egix
when you claimed, did yiu remember it by heart or check yiur rc?
Voice and vote. Voice and vote!
the thing with cuth is that I think his posts are more focused on trying to look villagery than actually solving the game
Like all his reads have some kind of nuance that just looks overthought and fake
Stuff like "I can't explain it but it just feels that way", "I should have a read on him but I don't", etc..
Isn't that exactly his town meta? y/n
does ne1 have strong opinions on csargo
atm he's k.
Ftr I'm actually a vt. Don't let anybody convince you otherwise!
What do you mean? Someone is going to report a role scan on you? Weird comment, along with the one about "both" mafia.
like maybe don't assume that there's nothing of value in my posts and actually read them. I already discussed csargo, discussed cuth.
i dun like
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 00:28
vote: csargo
:deal2:
You'll switch
bleh i hate this vote, I think csargo is a villager
i’m trying to find a decent cw to egix but having trouble finding one I feel good about
Correct.
You want to make a deal? Sure, sounds good.
You can't refuse.
and I talked about that, too. But he may have felt like there were enough people on barto to bus at that point. I just dont like the way he hedges a ton of his reads
That's Csargo.
Cuth was also my first thought after deciding csargo isn't a wolf
But I need to keep up appearances to keep the wolves off my scent after I shoot cuth tonight instead of dya
I knew you were the assassin. Do you take orders? :smartass:
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
4 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth))
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
2 Logic (FAble, Egix)
1 Fable (Logic)
1 dyachei (zack)
Not voting: rest of you lot
LMK if there are any errors
^^TALLY
Listen to me, wolves.
I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.
I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.
Your move, wolves.
The hero we deserve. I want a tie so
Vote: Logic
Sorry not sorry. Ties good
after we're sitting here on day 2 with two dead wolves and one dead villager, I've already braced myself for a mislynch + misvig as a palate cleanser before we right the ship and find the remaining wolves, then our cult sweeps in and wins by parity.
Choxorn do me a solid and please track Zack. Zack, don't convert Choxorn.
plz dont track zack wtf. track in the poe, ESPECIALLY if egix is a hit
a secret: im not actually that confident that egix is bad here, but i dont have any better ideas and it confirms me as good if he is bad
i kinda think chox is more likely to be bad independent, but that's a rlly bad kill for us to make
i think ladd might be my #1 good read now. quite the trn of events given my d1 read on him xD
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 00:49
vote: egix
In lieu of my D1 analysis for now
Here are the vote changes since I was last around, ~9 hours ago:
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
3 Egix (merl1n, GH. Newyn)
1 Csargo (dyachei)
Fable: 0 > Logic (9:51)
Cuth: 0 > Logic (1:14)
Logic: 0 > Fable (1:22)
Cuth: Logic > Egix (1:43)
Zack: 0 > Dya (2:43)
Egix: 0 > Logic (4:31)
<Visor tally>
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
4 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth))
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
2 Logic (FAble, Egix)
1 Fable (Logic)
1 dyachei (zack)
Zack: dya > Csargo
Monty: Cuth > Logic
Zack: Csargo > Egix
CURRENT Tally (I think)
5 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack)
3 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty)
2 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo)
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
1 Fable (Logic)
Not Voting (Choxorn, ladd)
Given what I said about voting activity I think one of Cuth, Logic, Egix has to be scum, right? Or was it the other way around.
I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 00:55
I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius
Nothing against you, you understand. It's just business.
I really would recommend a pre-EOD tie between Cuth, Logic, and Egix (adjusted for self-pres). Hey, ties worked well for us yesterday.
also dya, idk if you missed it or just didn't have time to asnwer, but when you got time can you read egix posts and tell me what's your read on him?
still need to read him. I'll dothat next
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 00:58
Sup, here for EOD. Not sure how much I'll be needed since my vote is currently on Egix and I don't intend to move it at all, but I'll be around.
Unrelated, I still think Choxorn's claim comes from town more often than not. He knew he had a rough D1, he knew he was in the POE, maybe wasn't sure how much he'd be around today, feels like he just decided to bite the bullet and get the claim out of the way so that everybody could move on to other things. Feel like the mafia play there is to see if he can't talk his way out of it first (or at the very least see which way the wind's blowing), keep the claim in his back pocket if needed later, or at very least not drop it early and give people the opportunity to tinfoil about it, as we've somewhat done here.
first impression is that I'm getting a similar vibe to the throne mash game from egix and he was 3p arsonist there
Cuthillius
12-10-2019, 00:59
feel it's worth noting that there's an almost linear relationship between how much people have played with me in the last 2-3 years and how suspicious they find me
2nd impression is that he's shading a bunch of people and not v reading a lot of them. but it was d1 and I guess that makes sense
I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius
:yes:
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:11
first impression is that I'm getting a similar vibe to the throne mash game from egix and he was 3p arsonist there
I assume the comparison accounts for the fact that an MU mash and a 17er on the Org are pretty different games. Can you go more into detail here?
Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.
if egix is a wolf, chox is probably exactly what he claims. Egix agreed really quickly.
I assume the comparison accounts for the fact that an MU mash and a 17er on the Org are pretty different games. Can you go more into detail here?
Different games, yes. But the tone is similar? and like...I feel like he's a bit...well, he's wolf hunting but he's doing it in this lackadaisical way that makes me think he doesn't care a ton.
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Logic)
5 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack)
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
3 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty)
Not voting: choxorn, ladd
LMK if there are any errors
Nothing against you, you understand. It's just business.
I really would recommend a pre-EOD tie between Cuth, Logic, and Egix (adjusted for self-pres). Hey, ties worked well for us yesterday.
That's a fine plan by me.
Fable
why is logic a wolf to you?
Empoof did townread egix so maybe that was part of why he died?
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 01:24
Sup, here for EOD. Not sure how much I'll be needed since my vote is currently on Egix and I don't intend to move it at all, but I'll be around.
Unrelated, I still think Choxorn's claim comes from town more often than not. He knew he had a rough D1, he knew he was in the POE, maybe wasn't sure how much he'd be around today, feels like he just decided to bite the bullet and get the claim out of the way so that everybody could move on to other things. Feel like the mafia play there is to see if he can't talk his way out of it first (or at the very least see which way the wind's blowing), keep the claim in his back pocket if needed later, or at very least not drop it early and give people the opportunity to tinfoil about it, as we've somewhat done here.
first impression is that I'm getting a similar vibe to the throne mash game from egix and he was 3p arsonist there
My gut says maybe. I am extremely dumb for a minor mechanical offline challenge. I have no confidence in this lynch; the sad truth is, no one here is below bottom null.
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:25
BTW Monty, I know you're still asking me about this, but I straight-up do not want to talk about my thoughts on the nightkill anymore. Please don't bother asking me anymore; if I deem it relevant I'll share it of my own accord. Pressure will do nothing.
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 01:28
BTW Monty, I know you're still asking me about this, but I straight-up do not want to talk about my thoughts on the nightkill anymore. Please don't bother asking me anymore; if I deem it relevant I'll share it of my own accord. Pressure will do nothing.
lol I had one question about nightkill buried in three walls, that's quite a reaction.
But I wasn't asking about the Empoof nightkill, I was asking about your challenge re: your own nightkill.
What was the night kill challenge about?
BTW Monty, I know you're still asking me about this, but I straight-up do not want to talk about my thoughts on the nightkill anymore. Please don't bother asking me anymore; if I deem it relevant I'll share it of my own accord. Pressure will do nothing.
:inquisitive:
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:31
lol I had one question about nightkill buried in three walls, that's quite a reaction.
But I wasn't asking about the Empoof nightkill, I was asking about your challenge re: your own nightkill.
Oh, sorry. What nightkill challenge?
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 01:35
Oh, sorry. What nightkill challenge?
Empoof is gut mafia for me. Can't really explain it now. Kill me tonight if you don't want me to flesh this out please.
It's just such a weird thing to say, and I know I've been calling a lot of things weird in this game.
That's a fine plan by me.
0.o logic being so ok with himself being voted on par with the others is weird
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:37
It's just such a weird thing to say, and I know I've been calling a lot of things weird in this game.
Ah, that. Wasn't really anything, I just kind of wanted to test the waters and see if it would spook anybody into killing me.
vote: Logic
still prefer csargo
I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius
i dont really remembr logic talking about egix or cuth before this. d1 he talked about ladd, and d2 my only memory is him/fable going bck and forth. guess i'll look back @ posts
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Logic)
5 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack)
4 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty, Dya)
Not voting: choxorn, ladd
LMK if there are any errors
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:42
Really don't think it should be anybody but Egix here.
Prefer Cuth over Logic if it comes to Not-Egix but I think they're both town.
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 01:43
Ah, that. Wasn't really anything, I just kind of wanted to test the waters and see if it would spook anybody into killing me.
OK.
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Logic)
5 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack)
4 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty, Dya)
Not voting: choxorn, ladd
LMK if there are any errors
Cuth's on Egix. Egix on Logic. Logic's on Cuth. Perfect standoff. But the tally isn't balanced.
Anyone on Egix wagon want to even out the score?
I'm sort of here (at work) but I'm not moving from Egix to Cuth.
Will vote Logic over Cuth if it comes down to it but would rather just lynch Egix.
Fable
why is logic a wolf to you?
Filler questions the zack stuff was weird af, I don't believe he ever thinks I'm a wolf in any world he's a villager.
Quick answer:
Scum almost certainly had a village counterwagon at some point. You should be looking more closely at the D1 Ladd voters, especially when he was in serious contention.
It's not foolproof, but the odds are slim that Ladd is also scum.
would logic say this if he was bad, given he was one of the ladd voters? idk
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:48
:juggle2:
I could go egix but logic's posts just don't make any sense to me, I really have trouble seeing him as a villager.
I think cuth got a lot better as the day want on don't think I want that to be a thing anymore.
Where you going after egix GH?
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:52
Where you going after egix GH?
Sorting in dya/Csargo/merl1n. Probably not quite in that order but I think those are my next three. You?
sup
just here to make a quick vite if needed
I thought you just said you were "doing nothing?"
You had said Monty/Barto were probably both misses, and also declined to vote ladd. So why Pzelda?
idk what logic thinks he was going to get in response to this. there were only a couple options to vote
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:55
Sorting in dya/Csargo/merl1n. Probably not quite in that order but I think those are my next three. You?
Addendum to this just in case I'm killed, merl1n has been posting quite well, but considering his experience with non-forum mafia it's nothing I'm remotely clearing him for and I'm basically putting him on the level of a capable forum player with the intelligence I've seen from his posts. He did not have a clearing D1 and while he was early on Egix like me, I'm not really giving much cred for that. Don't let him endgame barring mechanical information.
logic's response to me about his suspicion of zack really rubbed me the wrong way. Think that's way worse than anything cuth has done. Egix is kind of becoming a pet 3p read, which isn't a priority
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:56
logic's response to me about his suspicion of zack really rubbed me the wrong way. Think that's way worse than anything cuth has done. Egix is kind of becoming a pet 3p read, which isn't a priority
Bizarre direction to go with that read if dya and Egix are teammates. Don't really see it.
Choxorn do me a solid and please track Zack. Zack, don't convert Choxorn.
Monty he's obviously joking.
Sup, here for EOD. Not sure how much I'll be needed since my vote is currently on Egix and I don't intend to move it at all, but I'll be around.
Unrelated, I still think Choxorn's claim comes from town more often than not. He knew he had a rough D1, he knew he was in the POE, maybe wasn't sure how much he'd be around today, feels like he just decided to bite the bullet and get the claim out of the way so that everybody could move on to other things. Feel like the mafia play there is to see if he can't talk his way out of it first (or at the very least see which way the wind's blowing), keep the claim in his back pocket if needed later, or at very least not drop it early and give people the opportunity to tinfoil about it, as we've somewhat done here.
Yeah, exactly this.
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:57
Sup Chox. Whatcha thinking?
Addendum to this just in case I'm killed, merl1n has been posting quite well, but considering his experience with non-forum mafia it's nothing I'm remotely clearing him for and I'm basically putting him on the level of a capable forum player with the intelligence I've seen from his posts. He did not have a clearing D1 and while he was early on Egix like me, I'm not really giving much cred for that. Don't let him endgame barring mechanical information.
i'll volunteer to be tracked if egix is a hit, if itd help mechanically sort me.
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:59
i'll volunteer to be tracked if egix is a hit, if itd help mechanically sort me.
I'd sign off on this, I think.
Sup Chox. Whatcha thinking?
Don't really have enough time to think. All the leading candidates look kinda scummy but Egix most of all
Vote: Egix
Sorting in dya/Csargo/merl1n. Probably not quite in that order but I think those are my next three. You?
Idk lol
GeneralHankerchief
12-10-2019, 01:59
Don't really have enough time to think. All the leading candidates look kinda scummy but Egix most of all
Vote: Egix
:yes:
Montmorency
12-10-2019, 01:59
Monty he's obviously joking.
Were you joking about the track?
If Egix is 3P we might as well lynch to get this stuff sorted, narrow the pairings. No profit to his persistence but I doubt he's more than rand mafia. :shrug:
Were you joking about the track?
If Egix is 3P we might as well lynch to get this stuff sorted, narrow the pairings. No profit to his persistence but I doubt he's more than rand mafia. :shrug:
I'm a real tracker, I don't think Zack is a real cultist if that's what you're asking.
Egix was lynched.
They were:
The Cook!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/2a/5e/fd2a5ecaec2ffb68657204bff82fe7c2.jpg
They were town!
24 hours for night.
Alive 13/17:
1. Montmorency
2. Csargo
4. Choxorn
5. Zack
6. GeneralHankerchief
7. Logic
8. Dyachei
10. Fable
11. ladd
12. Cuthillius
14. Newyn
16. Insaner
17. merl1n
Dead 4/17:
9. Pzelda, Princess, Mafia, lynched D1.
15. Empoof, Priest, Town, died N1.
3. El Barto, Diviner, Mafia, died N1.
13. Egix, Cook, Town, lynched D2.
Night ends in 24 hours. Send in your orders.
Tally:
3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Logic)
7 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack, choxorn, ladd)
4 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty, Dya)
Montmorency was killed.
They were:
The Inquisitor!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/31/7c/ee317c57a89fe8ad5d8451e0317b07ea.png
They were town!
Dyachei was killed.
They were:
The Knight!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a4/7d/42/a47d420b1942324cf8a15cdf5181b40f.jpg
They were mafia!
-----------------------------------
Alive 11/17:
2. Csargo
4. Choxorn
5. Zack
6. GeneralHankerchief
7. Logic
10. Fable
11. ladd
12. Cuthillius
14. Newyn
16. Insaner
17. merl1n
Dead 6/17:
9. Pzelda, Princess, Mafia, lynched D1.
15. Empoof, Priest, Town, died N1.
3. El Barto, Diviner, Mafia, died N1.
13. Egix, Cook, Town, lynched D2.
8. Dyachei, Knight, Mafia, died N2.
1. Montmorency, Inquisitor, Town, died N2.
Day ends in 48 hours.
You may post.
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:08
Vig for MVP.
Think I might need to see some more from Ladd today
That Monty kill is a huge wtf lol. Chox wolf?
Why are me, GH, and Ladd all alive on day 3? What is going on?
What are the wolves doing?!
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:13
Think I might need to see some more from Ladd today
That Monty kill is a huge wtf lol. Chox wolf?
Think this might be more likely:
Vote: merl1n
I'll do color-coded tallies in a sec, but wanted to get this down.
Montmorency
12-11-2019, 02:13
Lol it's because I was playing about as town as I possibly could chumps. I was so town I was gonna claim cult.
Heed my ISO.
wp Zack mvp
I don't understand what's going on...
Choxorn
Night results?
I'll answer your question with two additional questions:
Hey Newyn, why can you visit two people at night, and why is one of them now dead?
Vote: Newyn
I'll answer your question with two additional questions:
Hey Newyn, why can you visit two people at night, and why is one of them now dead?
Vote: Newyn
Sir, you forgot to drop your microphone.
Think this might be more likely:
Vote: merl1n
I'll do color-coded tallies in a sec, but wanted to get this down.
i am town/good, and have no powers but my vote and my voice
How silly of me, I'll have to go pick up a mic just so I can drop it most effectively.
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:18
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
4 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo, Monty)
5 PZelda (Insaner, Dya, GH, Fable, ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
3 Ladd (Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
2 Choxorn (Empoof, Newyn)
So this was D1. I could probably just color Zack blue now but gotta keep it purely flip-based, lol.
I think I'm ready to clear everyone on PZelda wagon. She was the likeliest busser anyway, she was bussing, don't think there was a second. Hard to tell for sure considering we don't know PZelda's and Barto's exact roles, but still.
LolFable.
The ladd wagon is still of interest to me. Egix was a miss, yes, but I have to believe that at least one mafioso was actively trying to vote out a townie at EOD1 there. Still pretty sure merl1n fits the bill. Plus, in terms of the nightkills, they're also actively looking to avoid killing off the "main" targets (myself, Zack, etc - sorry Poof) and yet still are conspicuously avoiding that wagon.
Merl1n voted incorrectly, I'm less and less convinced that the tone of his posts should be taken into account in favor of his actual cases and pushes, and it's time to move forward.
good one zack
back to sleep
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:19
Oh. Lol.
Right idea, wrong wagon. :laugh4:
gdi I knew dya village read me too quickly. lolme for thinking that would ever happen before d3 if she was village.
It's seems less likely it's logic then.
It's def not csargo I think.
10 v 1 is zzzzzzzzzzzz
im also pretty clearly not partners with dyachei if u read her/my posts. i called her out for the too-sure push on pzelda when trying to think who was trying to gain something from multiple bads getting voted, and she didnt even remember who said that when refuting it
Newyn has conceded. The village has won.
Thanks for playing everyone.
every game I litrrally only get vited by villas at villas
just how it is
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:21
Newyn has conceded. The village has won.
Thanks for playing everyone.
I was just about to make a post wondering how Insaner would spin this into me being mafia, too. :laugh4:
GG all, kinda sad it ended so soon, but don't blame the concession there.
Glad to get the band back together, hope the new folks enjoyed it here!
gg
I was the vig if it wasn't obvious
setup, chat links, etc? :beam:
well that was wasted time reading game over night xD
ggs
thanks hosting, had a good time
For notes:
Village PRs:
Csargo - Two shot Jailkeeper - n1 insaner, n2 ladd
Zack - Village Vig - n1 El Barto, n2 Dyachei
Choxorn - Tracker - n1 Egix nothing, n2 newyn, monty, merl1n
Wolf Prs
Pzelda - goon
El barto - roleblocker - n1 insaner
Dyachei - follower - n1 ladd, kill empoof, n2 zack
Newyn - messenger - n1 message egix, n2 kill monty, message merl1n.
every game I litrrally only get vited by villas at villas
just how it is
newyn voted for u for a while, but switched to chox
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:22
gg
I was the vig if it wasn't obvious
setup, chat links, etc? :beam:
Yeah had a pretty good idea D2, the dya shot clinched it for me.
Excellent play, as always.
gg
I was the vig if it wasn't obvious
setup, chat links, etc? :beam:
wp :thumbsup:
GGz
probably one of the most chill games I've ever played, needed that.
https://discord.gg/hgpa8EP
dead chat
wolf chat up to the wolves, should be fine
gg, I would have dragged it out if Cho had tracked anyone else even though it never looked winnable.
I was just a boy trying to save people. I missed both times. :shame:
Newyn getting tracked is a real feels bad, he couldve lasted a few more days easily i think.
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:26
https://discord.gg/hgpa8EP
dead chat
wolf chat up to the wolves, should be fine
Getting a 404, not sure if bad invite or Discord being dumb.
Lol my only halfway serious suspicion of Newyn on Day 1 was actually right
https://media1.giphy.com/media/c208XiIRYuMxi/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112da6b886544cf695832e406cea09ac4492b60792&rid=giphy.gif
Getting a 404, not sure if bad invite or Discord being dumb.
yeah apparently it isnt working for zack either
not sure why, its 404ing for me too, must be a discord problem? i just edited the link to never expire and copied it in here
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:29
Don't think the mafia here did anything wrong really, just had a rough EOD1 from how things shook out and that was really impossible to recover from. Too many people were cleared from votes, POE was too tight, and the town PRs finished it off. Happens sometimes, hope the next game goes better. ~:pat:
There's a lot of ~middling people that I'm choosing to slightly not comment on.
but I think Zack/empoof/merl1n is rock solid and we can deal with not lynching in fable/cuth/insaner
and people like ladd can agree and put their name inside there :coffeenews:
https://media.giphy.com/media/12vQiYtQcOwOFG/giphy.gif
merl1n is legitimately my absolute top town and anyone who has decided that we're using his "newness" as a crutch either hasn't read merl1n's posts or is a wolf.
https://i.giphy.com/media/Pbh5VF8X4OsnK/giphy.webp
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
https://media3.giphy.com/media/J93sVmfYBtsRi/giphy.gif?cid=790b76117d1d7ab1cb93720ba79546919deac5224e485582&rid=giphy.gif
Choxorn > PZelda > Barto is my order.
I'm not liking barto lynch for today anymore.
PZelda I'm getting weird wagon formation vibes about.
Hum dee dum.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/mBO4yfKdDaH7y/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611e0e566d491c806913995db87c24fb7511dd96baf&rid=giphy.gif
gg everyone, glad I joined.
gg everyone, glad I joined.
thx for believing in me <3
thx for believing in me <3
You were fun to play with, hope you play more forum soon ~:smoking:
GeneralHankerchief
12-11-2019, 02:39
You were fun to play with, hope you play more forum soon ~:smoking:
Seconded!
Sorry for the, uh, somewhat incessant tinfoiling. It came from a place of fear, I promise. :hide:
Seconded!
Sorry for the, uh, somewhat incessant tinfoiling. It came from a place of fear, I promise. :hide:
if it helps i was getting pretty suspicious of you given it felt like you were setting up that push on me in advance xD
You were fun to play with, hope you play more forum soon ~:smoking:
thirded :2thumbsup:
GH, follow me onto dya.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_caU5EZcrn7w/TKAhQ32GPsI/AAAAAAAAAL4/DJ462F926bk/s1600/aladdin_do_you_trust_me.jpg
:creep:
we should do this more often
Montmorency
12-11-2019, 03:18
gg
I was the vig if it wasn't obvious
setup, chat links, etc? :beam:
I knew you were an assassin.
much wp mvp
so gg
srsly
Nearly a flawless town victory.
I was right about dead air D2 at least. But everyone knows my town game for next time.
Apologies to Choxorn. You're better than the cat. Half an apology to Logic.
Merlin, I have a question about offline Mafia: Is it possible to have setups anywhere near as complicated as online ones?
Apologies to Choxorn. You're better than the cat. Half an apology to Logic.
Apology accepted, and you're welcome.
Merlin, I have a question about offline Mafia: Is it possible to have setups anywhere near as complicated as online ones?
I think you're looking for something like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Werewolf
Cuthillius
12-11-2019, 05:59
lol me
gg all was fun
thanks for hosting visor!
Oh noice. GG everyone, thanks for the game :)
thanks to all the offsiters who made this game run
yall made it a sick game
welcome anytime
I knew you were an assassin.
much wp mvp
so gg
srsly
Nearly a flawless town victory.
I was right about dead air D2 at least. But everyone knows my town game for next time.
Apologies to Choxorn. You're better than the cat. Half an apology to Logic.
Merlin, I have a question about offline Mafia: Is it possible to have setups anywhere near as complicated as online ones?
I'll take the half-apology, as I was only half-assing the game. :tongue3:
I'm trying to think of my contribution to this game, and other than a willingness to lynch Dya, I maybe voiced fears of Newyn being scum?
The rest of town got there without me. Bravo to you all.
El Barto
12-16-2019, 06:25
Back after an Internetless week! I see we got creamed even earlier than our host expected… when's the next game?
Back after an Internetless week! I see we got creamed even earlier than our host expected… when's the next game?
I think I might host one after the new year starts.
El Barto
12-17-2019, 02:47
I think Montmorency wanted to host a rôle madness game. Who knows, it's just a suggestion. ;)
Montmorency
12-17-2019, 04:33
I think Montmorency wanted to host a rôle madness game. Who knows, it's just a suggestion. ;)
I'd like to play in one. :wink:
El Barto
12-18-2019, 04:27
:2thumbsup:
I was already thinking of hosting such a game, in fact.
Preferably over at CFC, but maybe I could make arrangements and host here.
El Barto
12-23-2019, 06:11
So, if I host something, will people come and play?
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