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Mischief
05-22-2022, 23:45
Because they should be null :shrug: (and not left out)
Admittedly, this is maybe a personal thing (for me or you :p)
The individuals outside of my villa reads and outside of the POE were given temporary exclusion simply because there was little to go off of.
Slots like that I wait to see whether I'll get a feeling for their alignment as they post.
In the case of my nulls, those slots I read a number of posts from, and was still left uncertain.
Should any of the wait-to-see slots not gravitate in either direction, they too will find their place in the POE, unless they gravitate into a proper scum read, in which case the POE is examine and evaluated for potential partners in case of being correct on the scumread, and a vote is placed on the scum read.
That's basically my process.
Dya making a strong v read on me is interesting, need more time to think on that
Mischiefs defence/omgus seems a little weird given I wasn't voting him based on meta (and truly don't remember much about playing non turbos with him). I understand he can be a bit formal/stilted in his writing in general but it was mostly a Poe thing if you look through my explanations on the reads
Not sure what to think of raskol or eph rn (raskol calling me socially awkward is mild v points lol)
Shrug on insomnia still
idk if i'd call it stronger but its stronger than mischiefs bogus w read on you
vote: ephemeral
I really gotta think about that taffy read some more
Part of me just wants to village read it because it's not a super good case/weird targets but I do have a weal spot for that stuff
Raskol can you talk about Lantana a bit for me?
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:47
Taffy, have I ever needed to hand conversations off to wolf allies in the past?
The moment I'm afraid of engaging a player as wolf is the moment I retire tbh.
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:49
I'm gonna say *Spins wheel*
POE Mischief and...
*Spins wheel again*
Locktown Nixon.
Wait he's not in the game.
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:50
Sorry, I got the wrong wheel. Gimme a moment and I'll be back with the right one.
I am aware of everything I post? I don't make idle posts in ww games, even posts that seem lazy and noncontributive are done with an eye towards how I think I will be perceived, how I want to be perceived and how I need to be perceived.
Any villager worth their salt should be consider their posts.
Fascinating that katze gave meta on me, not sure they've really seen me as a wolf . Are you a foler?
Not FOL.
And naturally. It was more that I saw the word salady read in 59 and the change to not that.
So it?s not quite accurate for it to be a ?as a villager you don?t consider your posts? read at all actually.
Looking through the 100 or so posts I?ve missed now
Mischief
05-22-2022, 23:51
To expand on mischief: I go to lengths to explain how slight the read is (I think i use the word 2/3 times)
I guess a vote is a vote, but the strength of the counter reaction is a little bit of a shock
I will not disagree that it was a bit of an overreaction, your read seemed incorrect enough in the moment that I could only see it as intentional, but as stated previously, that conclusion was drawn from a less than fair assessment.
Probably also didn't help that I was still kind of waking up when I saw it.
Not really an excuse, but still, I recognise that it was a bit unreasonable on my end.
Not FOL.
And naturally. It was more that I saw the word salady read in 59 and the change to not that.
So it?s not quite accurate for it to be a ?as a villager you don?t consider your posts? read at all actually.
Looking through the 100 or so posts I?ve missed now
Yes my posting style can change
I don't think this is something that is uncommon for ww players. I think anyone who has played with me prior in games would agree with that
Sorry, I got the wrong wheel. Gimme a moment and I'll be back with the right one.
Lol too close to the sorc game :stare:
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:54
Lol too close to the sorc game :stare:
I always have wheels.
How else do I drive the bus?
Totally not Taffy
05-22-2022, 23:55
Taffy, have I ever needed to hand conversations off to wolf allies in the past?
The moment I'm afraid of engaging a player as wolf is the moment I retire tbh.
Needed to hand them off, no. Been awkward, yes. Gotten their furry behind saved by Koba, very recently.
But ok, there are a lot of people who I think are town who say Visor's town, and without Visor I have no reason to sus you. Any chance you could pick someone other than Lantana to vote for? What's your take on Ephemeral and Dyachei since they joined so late?
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:55
It's a steering wheel not a steering won't.
Mischief
05-22-2022, 23:55
idk if i'd call it stronger but its stronger than mischiefs bogus w read on you
If you think it was "bogus" then vote me.
Taffy still a wolf. Lanfantana would like to come back to chat (fun fact brought by Raskol - chat is the French word for cat)
lol Sunbae (sorry I can't articulate this read better tbh. but this is my guenine reaction to your vote when I return and explain where I am about Lanfantana -since you asked - and you vote me)
Dya null
visor null
Ender light villa (for tiny reasons, but I can generally accuratly read him scum when he is, and I am not pinged yet so there is that)
Ephe prolly villa (this is a bad activity read)
insomnia prolly not ww with lanfantana.
Oui oui
Vote: Insomnia
Rask's posting in this stint seems totally fine and Dya saying this is not how they wolf is good enough for me day 1. I also have a soft spot for people that just lol at me. No buddying, not trying to turn the tables. Just "lol you're silly" and move on.
Insomnia pinged me for reading rask "for sunbae" because I was pretty clear on the idea that I had no real wolf case and it was just vibes/mixture of my other reads. I didn't ask anyone to read Rask, to vote Rask, to sanity check me or anything. I just voted someone and moved on with my day. So for Insomnia to piggyback off of my vote, credit it to me, and throw on an additional two reads has me on alert when I get back to the thread and think Rask has been fine.
Taffy, have I ever needed to hand conversations off to wolf allies in the past?
The moment I'm afraid of engaging a player as wolf is the moment I retire tbh.
Can you just let me have this one?
"Sunbae was so scary that Ender passed him off to Visor" just feels * right * you know?
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:57
Needed to hand them off, no. Been awkward, yes. Gotten their furry behind saved by Koba, very recently.
But ok, there are a lot of people who I think are town who say Visor's town, and without Visor I have no reason to sus you. Any chance you could pick someone other than Lantana to vote for? What's your take on Ephemeral and Dyachei since they joined so late?
Dyachei is strongly in "Looks like a villager and walks like a villager" territory.
Ephemeral has had sharp takes and I'm going to suggest bluntening via force trauma but I'm not super confident if that is good or we should take a lighter touch.
So if we assume I'm wrong Dya is a wolf and Ephe is town.
Lol too close to the sorc game :stare:
Hold on, let me put on my dancing shoes
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:57
Can you just let me have this one?
"Sunbae was so scary that Ender passed him off to Visor" just feels * right * you know?
AAAAH!
*Runs from thread*
Read up, gimme a few to have a thinky thinky
EnderWiggin
05-22-2022, 23:58
Vote: Insomnia
Rask's posting in this stint seems totally fine and Dya saying this is not how they wolf is good enough for me day 1. I also have a soft spot for people that just lol at me. No buddying, not trying to turn the tables. Just "lol you're silly" and move on.
Insomnia pinged me for reading rask "for sunbae" because I was pretty clear on the idea that I had no real wolf case and it was just vibes/mixture of my other reads. I didn't ask anyone to read Rask, to vote Rask, to sanity check me or anything. I just voted someone and moved on with my day. So for Insomnia to piggyback off of my vote, credit it to me, and throw on an additional two reads has me on alert when I get back to the thread and think Rask has been fine.
You have my Sowrd.
Vote: Insomnia
(See, pocket is comfy, pocket is safe.)
Official Tally as of #273
2 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral)
2 insomnia (Sunbae, EnderWiggin)
2 Raskolnikov (Lantana, Mischief)
1 Ephemeral (Visor)
1 Mischief (Raskolnikov)
1 Visor (Totally not Taffy)
Not Voting: insomnia
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:00
Needed to hand them off, no. Been awkward, yes. Gotten their furry behind saved by Koba, very recently.
Also excuse you, Champs nerves won't show up in a random mini game =P
I'll remind you that once I stopped the initial nerves I moved to everyone's towncores. Except Spec Chat's.
Notably, I think Rask's entire thing about the wagon being good for the future is a pretty towny approach that reminds of of the last game more.
I think this is one of those games where we're all getting bogged down in specifics and technicalities and talking past each other a little bit (like on the whole poe conversation) and I kinda just think the wolves are in insom/ephem/ender/taffy and we're gonna be a-ok if we just take a step back and focus on the broader points of "who is trying to figure it out" etc
Lantana if you want your votes to count you need to add the colon
Thoughts on eph, sunbae?
I think he's in my poe but I don't want to go there today because I think we always try to wagon Ephem in these things day 1 and I'd rather let him get his feel under him
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:02
I think he's in my poe but I don't want to go there today because I think we always try to wagon Ephem in these things day 1 and I'd rather let him get his feel under him
I also like having my feel under me.
AAAAH!
*Runs from thread*
Leave ender alone you're scaring him!
"hoi"
STOP IT NOW HES TERRIFIED
I think he's in my poe but I don't want to go there today because I think we always try to wagon Ephem in these things day 1 and I'd rather let him get his feel under him
I hear that
Thoughts on taffy/mischief?
Ender can you state your earlier reasons on me (again, if it was done originally...)?
OK visor, will note for next time.
Whoever is interested - just making sure there is no iso button? can't find one. won't be a problem but worth asking.
I am also going to write this post to remind myself in the future that your initial gut reads on dya are usually right and then you talk yourself into the other option before feeling bad. Don't do that this time.
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:06
Overall, I think Rask's responses in our interactions are enough that I feel less confident about that being a hit.
I'm not sure where this leaves me, expect to examine the rest of the POE (including Ephemeral and Insomnia)
unvote: Raskolnikov
Taffy still a wolf. Lanfantana would like to come back to chat (fun fact brought by Raskol - chat is the French word for cat)
lol Sunbae (sorry I can't articulate this read better tbh. but this is my guenine reaction to your vote when I return and explain where I am about Lanfantana -since you asked - and you vote me)
Dya null
visor null
Ender light villa (for tiny reasons, but I can generally accuratly read him scum when he is, and I am not pinged yet so there is that)
Ephe prolly villa (this is a bad activity read)
insomnia prolly not ww with lanfantana.
Salut Raskolnikov, allons parler!
Totally not Taffy
05-23-2022, 00:08
I'm gonna say *Spins wheel*
POE Mischief and...
*Spins wheel again*
Locktown Nixon.
Wait he's not in the game.
Sorry, I got the wrong wheel. Gimme a moment and I'll be back with the right one.
I always have wheels.
How else do I drive the bus?
It's a steering wheel not a steering won't.
I read the rules and the rules say Jokers are banned forever. Vote: Ender
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:08
Overall, I think Rask's responses in our interactions are enough that I feel less confident about that being a hit.
I'm not sure where this leaves me, except to examine the rest of the POE (including Ephemeral and Insomnia)
unvote: Raskolnikov
EBWOP because I can't write today.
ya most likely will be asleep by eod so I'm gonna have to pick a lane in a bit
Visor if you're around can you gimme something on rask here? iirc you had some slam dunk reads on him before
too early for me to make a read im confident in, sorry eph
he seems fineish for now
Vote: EnderWiggins
I note a POE of Rasko Ender and Taffy written in your reads list but no comments on Taffy's bigger post that immediately followed.
(that is wolfy!)
Why no comments? I found it a touch towny on a surface level
I hear that
Thoughts on taffy/mischief?
I feel good about mischief. I think the only reason Mischief approaches me this way (deferring to my thoughts on you) is if you are w/w where I'm the one getting signal boosted, but I don't think your interactions happen in the way they did if you are w/w.
Taffy I'm unsure on. the "nefarious and slimy" thing rings true cause we talked about it (collective We, not taffy and i) in spec chat so using that makes sense but I also feel they are being a bit ... I guess the word would be "ungenerous" with their interpretation of things. Like, the Ender passing me off to you thing or the you not wanting to talk to anyone else. I don't know if that's a bad thing alignment wise or not and I'd rather just give them a bit of time to get more reads/concrete stuff you know?
Ender can you state your earlier reasons on me (again, if it was done originally...)?
OK visor, will note for next time.
Whoever is interested - just making sure there is no iso button? can't find one. won't be a problem but worth asking.
read this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/152962-Guide-for-players-coming-from-offsite
tells you how
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:10
vote: ephemeral
I really gotta think about that taffy read some more
Part of me just wants to village read it because it's not a super good case/weird targets but I do have a weal spot for that stuff
Raskol can you talk about Lantana a bit for me?
Nya. :wowee:
(I haven't much more to say than what I replyed to Ender, ie the focus on you is weird, the meta read is weird, the early cat banter with taffy felt weird to me - but in all honnestly all cat chats are weird to me lol - I prolly underestimate the powers of these animals smh)
Im current hoping there are 0 wolves in mischief/visor/dya/rask
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:11
Im current hoping there are 0 wolves in mischief/visor/dya/rask
That would make this game a lot easier
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:11
Ender can you state your earlier reasons on me (again, if it was done originally...)?
OK visor, will note for next time.
Whoever is interested - just making sure there is no iso button? can't find one. won't be a problem but worth asking.
Uh, I forgot but I think it was something about the way you were jumping around early felt like a wolf trying to latch onto content.
Weak read that was moved on once I had stronger things
Nya. :wowee:
(I haven't much more to say than what I replyed to Ender, ie the focus on you is weird, the meta read is weird, the early cat banter with taffy felt weird to me - but in all honnestly all cat chats are weird to me lol - I prolly underestimate the powers of these animals smh)
lmao villagery post
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:13
I read the rules and the rules say Jokers are banned forever. Vote: Ender
Hey Taffy, why are you wolfing?
Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?
i guess i think my poe is
ephem
taffy
insomnia
x (i'll figure x out later, maybe, no promises)
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:14
i guess i think my poe is
ephem
taffy
insomnia
x (i'll figure x out later, maybe, no promises)
Tbh x is pretty hard to read.
Official Tally as of #301
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
3 insomnia (Sunbae, EnderWiggin, Visor)
1 Mischief (Raskolnikov)
1 Raskolnikov (Lantana)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
Totally not Taffy
05-23-2022, 00:15
Hey Taffy, why are you wolfing?
Townies shitpost at D1 SoD, and use EoD to figure out who to vote for. Wolves shitpost EoD so the townies have a harder time doing so.
Dya's posts don't do anything for me either way
Who made the 'walks and talks' like a villa read and wants to educate me?
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:18
Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?
Still not entirely convinced is a villager, but I could understand his perspective a lot better after interacting with his slot while pushing him, and as such feel less convinced that he'd flip scum, but will revisit if Ender flips scum at any point.
Totally not Taffy
05-23-2022, 00:19
Townies shitpost at D1 SoD, and use EoD to figure out who to vote for. Wolves shitpost EoD so the townies have a harder time doing so.
And you, are shitposting EoD. Hence the vote. And the Joker comment was because you're giving every impression that you want to be lynched, as opposed to the other people here who are giving serious answers and providing commentary.
i dont think taffy is wrong in their characterisation of you blade
i dont really get what you're doing besides shitposting lol
i dont even know what ur reads are lol
Vote: Ephemeral
I don't really want to kill visor today; insomnia I was fine with him (by extension raskolnikov saying I was shading insomnia is not nya).
lemme order my reads
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:22
And you, are shitposting EoD. Hence the vote. And the Joker comment was because you're giving every impression that you want to be lynched, as opposed to the other people here who are giving serious answers and providing commentary.
You... you do remember what I play like when I'm not at champs right?
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:23
x is pretty hard
Ender's switch to openwolfingmode is noted :boxedin:
Vote: Ephemeral
I don't really want to kill visor today; insomnia I was fine with him (by extension raskolnikov saying I was shading insomnia is not nya).
lemme order my reads
Can you talk a bit about Insomnia?
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:24
i dont think taffy is wrong in their characterisation of you blade
i dont really get what you're doing besides shitposting lol
i dont even know what ur reads are lol
It's kinda particularly bad from Taffy tho given I play (in Taffy's own words) a "cryptic bastard" game on GITP usually.
I like being silly and having fun.
Also my reads have been present for anyone paying attention.
I've called Dya and you town.
I've called Insomnia scum sponging Sunbae read who is probably town too.
I've called Lantana mild scum.
I've called Ephe slightly less mild scum.
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:25
Still not entirely convinced is a villager, but I could understand his perspective a lot better after interacting with his slot while pushing him, and as such feel less convinced that he'd flip scum, but will revisit if Ender flips scum at any point.
why are you linking me with him?
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:25
Like the statement that I've made no reads in thread is false.
You just need to stop ignoring posts I look mildly silly in.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:26
Ender's switch to openwolfingmode is noted :boxedin:
That's my secret cap.
I think if Rask w then Insomnia v for the phrasing of MY phrasing to insomnia earlier.
For those not aware of what i'm referring to, insomnia asked me a very weighted question from my point of view, I asked why he did so, and Rask thought my weighted question (whilst answering insomnia's weighted question) was noteworthy. I think i'd see that more from a wolf wanting to cause villager villager violence in general than a villager tuning into a random conversation.
As for what that means for Insom's alignment if Rask is indeed a wolf the same would probably apply (Insom v). Although I say that not having thought of what a wolf alternative would look like #yolo
It's kinda particularly bad from Taffy tho given I play (in Taffy's own words) a "cryptic bastard" game on GITP usually.
I like being silly and having fun.
Also my reads have been present for anyone paying attention.
I've called Dya and you town.
I've called Insomnia scum sponging Sunbae read who is probably town too.
I've called Lantana mild scum.
I've called Ephe slightly less mild scum.
Was your "why are you wolfing Taffy" post serious?
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:28
why are you linking me with him?
Nothing conclusive, when constructing the POE, I had the conclusion that you and Ender based on early posting had the potential to be W/W, but that neither of you are wolfing with Taffy (hence the comment that Taffy is an outlier in that group of 3).
Since that post, there has been a bit more distance (idr which one of you made the post about the other one and Visor in the wolf chat).
Either way, that's why it's a "revisit" rather than automatic scumread.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:28
Dya's posts don't do anything for me either way
Who made the 'walks and talks' like a villa read and wants to educate me?
That was me.
Dya not only made a legitimate meta read based on a recent game (Raskol read) but also made a read on Visor that I felt legit about, both of those felt like good starts compared to other reads in the game and their gamestate makes sense for how they sort.
I don't think I'd want to visit voting there today. Usually as wolf they eventually feel opportunistic in their play, and more thought goes into their reads as v. Not a hard polarisation but definitely a trend.
Ender,
It sounds like you/taffy have some good amount of experience so can you help me with my earlier posted thoughts on Taffy? Pretty uncertain there.
Can you talk a bit about Insomnia?
I'm still living off my take last night where he skipped RVS and got into some pretty immediate shading, I think that's more typically villagery than not, though i'll have to see how I feel about placing him against others (momentarily)
I'm still living off my take last night where he skipped RVS and got into some pretty immediate shading, I think that's more typically villagery than not, though i'll have to see how I feel about placing him against others (momentarily)
Alrighty.
Official Tally as of #321
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
3 insomnia (Sunbae, EnderWiggin, Visor)
1 Ephemeral (Lantana)
1 Mischief (Raskolnikov)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:30
Was your "why are you wolfing Taffy" post serious?
Mildly?
Idk if it was just me reacting badly to a read I thought they shouldn't have in this gamestate with their familiarity with me or not.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:31
Ender,
It sounds like you/taffy have some good amount of experience so can you help me with my earlier posted thoughts on Taffy? Pretty uncertain there.
Which thoughts?
And yeah we have a few games more recently.
I'd say Taffy has played the most number of games in recent times with me out of this playerlist.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:32
That being said don't trust my D1 Taffy read too much.
I believe the only 2 times I've got them voted out D1 they were town both times.
(In my defense they defended a wolf I thought obvious in the 2nd game and assumed that meant partners. =P )
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:33
I think if Rask w then Insomnia v for the phrasing of MY phrasing to insomnia earlier.
For those not aware of what i'm referring to, insomnia asked me a very weighted question from my point of view, I asked why he did so, and Rask thought my weighted question (whilst answering insomnia's weighted question) was noteworthy. I think i'd see that more from a wolf wanting to cause villager villager violence in general than a villager tuning into a random conversation.
As for what that means for Insom's alignment if Rask is indeed a wolf the same would probably apply (Insom v). Although I say that not having thought of what a wolf alternative would look like #yolo
relax, I am a villager. What does it change for you?
also pov: could you rephrase why you thought he was asking you a "very weighted question"?
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:36
Nothing conclusive, when constructing the POE, I had the conclusion that you and Ender based on early posting had the potential to be W/W, but that neither of you are wolfing with Taffy (hence the comment that Taffy is an outlier in that group of 3).
Since that post, there has been a bit more distance (idr which one of you made the post about the other one and Visor in the wolf chat).
Either way, that's why it's a "revisit" rather than automatic scumread.
gotcha. (I posted that gif about wc)
fwiw I have played with Visor the most here iirc and have played regularly with Blade too since a year and half, so there is that.
i think id prefer insomnia to die over ender today, simply because it doesnt really seem like ender is too worried about dying
might be a bad read, but its d1, whatever
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:37
gotcha. (I posted that gif about wc)
fwiw I have played with Visor the most here iirc and have played regularly with Blade too since a year and half, so there is that.
That is good to know, I will keep that in consideration.
relax, I am a villager. What does it change for you?
also pov: could you rephrase why you thought he was asking you a "very weighted question"?
He was asking me a very weighted question!
for the first question, couldn't say for more generalities, for insomnia it wouldn't mean anything for that specific context! if you think otherwise I am all nyas (ears)
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:39
Blame me but I think Ender is town. will vote against his chop if needed.
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:40
i think id prefer insomnia to die over ender today, simply because it doesnt really seem like ender is too worried about dying
might be a bad read, but its d1, whatever
lol, I should F5 before poasting. (and maybe type more than a word a minute)
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
Which thoughts?
And yeah we have a few games more recently.
I'd say Taffy has played the most number of games in recent times with me out of this playerlist.
I feel good about mischief. I think the only reason Mischief approaches me this way (deferring to my thoughts on you) is if you are w/w where I'm the one getting signal boosted, but I don't think your interactions happen in the way they did if you are w/w.
Taffy I'm unsure on. the "nefarious and slimy" thing rings true cause we talked about it (collective We, not taffy and i) in spec chat so using that makes sense but I also feel they are being a bit ... I guess the word would be "ungenerous" with their interpretation of things. Like, the Ender passing me off to you thing or the you not wanting to talk to anyone else. I don't know if that's a bad thing alignment wise or not and I'd rather just give them a bit of time to get more reads/concrete stuff you know?
this one ender
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:41
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
Ephe is squarely in my "idfk" bucket, warming up a new spot in my POE
when wolf sunbae sets up a villager and everyone follows
https://c.tenor.com/dWsKxaRQMNsAAAAC/reddit-evil.gif
why did people sheep me on ender?
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:43
when wolf sunbae sets up a villager and everyone follows
https://c.tenor.com/dWsKxaRQMNsAAAAC/reddit-evil.gif
Are you shitposting or are you actually tinfoiling his slot? (or both)
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:43
He was asking me a very weighted question!
for the first question, couldn't say for more generalities, for insomnia it wouldn't mean anything for that specific context! if you think otherwise I am all nyas (ears)
You sound fun. I'll come back to it if insomnia is town :bounce:
Ephe is squarely in my "idfk" bucket, warming up a new spot in my POE
Nya
You sound fun. I'll come back to it if insomnia is town :bounce:
Is this a 'you sound fun at parties *eye roll*' read,
or an actual 'you sound fun'
Smh if former
Official Tally as of #321
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
3 insomnia (Sunbae, EnderWiggin, Visor)
1 Ephemeral (Lantana)
1 Mischief (Raskolnikov)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
still the same
when wolf sunbae sets up a villager and everyone follows
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Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:46
still the same
vote: insomnia
I think I've done a good job of fixing some issues I've been having lately and I will hope that this is a hit
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:50
this one ender
Hmm. Well I certainly feel like they've been ungenerous.
I dunno if that's wolf aligned of them either but it doesn't feel like a previous game progression like Dya's take did.
Unless they got too starry eyed at my Champs game I guess?
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:50
Is this a 'you sound fun at parties *eye roll*' read,
or an actual 'you sound fun'
Smh if former
You are fun to read (gueninely), but I'll revisit your slot l8r since you dodging important stuff (well considering your content toDay) is noted. (Like I got the impression that while speaking about pov, you didn't put in my shoes, when u could imo have seen fairly quick from where I was coming from)
Sunbae
Taffy
Mischief
Dyachei
Visorslash
Raskolnikov
Enderwiggin
Ephemeral
Dyachei is probably true null which means I need to find more town reads and/or dyachei needs to be townier
I also had insomnia has my third town but I didn't wanna have him there if he's gonna flip wolf in 10 minutes nya
I def prefer Ephemeral, I can go check his posts again to confirm this (or potentially feel differently :bow:)
I dont think ender/taffy work
nor visor/insomnia
ephem/ender or rask/mischief either
Official Tally as of #350
4 insomnia (Sunbae, EnderWiggin, Visor, Raskolnikov)
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
1 Ephemeral (Lantana)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
You are fun to read (gueninely), but I'll revisit your slot l8r since you dodging important stuff (well considering your content toDay) is noted. (Like I got the impression that while speaking about pov, you didn't put in my shoes, when u could imo have seen fairly quick from where I was coming from)
I have no idea what you're asking or saying sorry
Sunbae
Taffy
Mischief
Dyachei
Visorslash
Raskolnikov
Enderwiggin
Ephemeral
Dyachei is probably true null which means I need to find more town reads and/or dyachei needs to be townier
I also had insomnia has my third town but I didn't wanna have him there if he's gonna flip wolf in 10 minutes nya
I def prefer Ephemeral, I can go check his posts again to confirm this (or potentially feel differently :bow:)
it might be a you problem. other ppl are finding me
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:52
I feel kinda bad about this because Insomnia can't be around for eod.
i do think insomnia is town for how they approached reading me though
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:53
Rask is pretty town imo.
Idk if I've said that properly yet.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:53
Vote: Ephemeral
Watch me pull a flash wagon out of my hat.
i do think insomnia is town for how they approached reading me though
Vote: Taffy
Rask is pretty town imo.
Idk if I've said that properly yet.
I think so too
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:54
I have no idea what you're asking or saying sorry
no pb. it's late, I am french. NYA
(for real, I'll make an effort to word it D2 if it matters)
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:54
Watch me get D1'd by fragmented flash wagons.
I feel kinda bad about this because Insomnia can't be around for eod.
I may vote you at EOD
Can we not do Ephem please? It's every game with them getting wagoned early and I just want them to have a clean slate.
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:54
I may vote you at EOD
You have 6 minutes, deal is closing fast.
Vote: Ephemeral
Watch me pull a flash wagon out of my hat.
Alright better check this wagon again if people will actually listen to me lol
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:55
Can we not do Ephem please? It's every game with them getting wagoned early and I just want them to have a clean slate.
Well shit son.
Vote: Insomnia
I kinda don't want to d1 taffy again because I'm afraid they flip town again.
Official Tally as of #364
3 insomnia (EnderWiggin, Visor, Raskolnikov)
2 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Ephemeral)
1 Totally not Taffy (Sunbae)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:55
Vote: Ephemeral
Watch me pull a flash wagon out of my hat.
I see it. now I want to flip insomnia even more.
And you, are shitposting EoD. Hence the vote. And the Joker comment was because you're giving every impression that you want to be lynched, as opposed to the other people here who are giving serious answers and providing commentary.
think this was taffys last post? at :19
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:55
is lantana town?
I wanna say no but I could be wrong.
is lantana town?
I think so
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:56
think this was taffys last post? at :19
To be fair this is like 1am for them.
Mischief
05-23-2022, 00:56
Fuck it, I kind of lean V on Insomnia.
Vote: Ephemeral
I don't have a strong strong scum read anywhere, so POE.
I feel like shit, so I think I'm going to set up a covid testing appointment after this.
I feel like shit, so I think I'm going to set up a covid testing appointment after this.
Good luck
vote: lantana
look, i get not v reading me sometimes when I haven't been towny but I'm not sure why my play this game is being classed as "pure null"
Official Tally as of #364
3 insomnia (EnderWiggin, Visor, Raskolnikov)
2 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Ephemeral)
1 Totally not Taffy (Sunbae)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
er i think ender is voting eph and eph is not voting himself
Official Tally as of #364
3 insomnia (EnderWiggin, Visor, Raskolnikov)
2 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Ephemeral)
1 Totally not Taffy (Sunbae)
Not Voting: insomnia, Mischief
Day 1 ends in thunderously calm
:00 good, :01 bad
sorry this tally is incorrect
3 insomnia (Visor, Raskolnikov, EnderWiggin)
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
1 Ephemeral (Lantana)
as of 368
Totally not Taffy
05-23-2022, 00:57
You... you do remember what I play like when I'm not at champs right?
I do. And I do not remember you clogging up a thread before. In fact most of the time you're not around EoD (and our EoDs are hardly ever this eventful). You also don't usually call someone you previously townread a wolf just because they make a wrong read on you - in fact you once called me out for making the mistake of thinking that people who sus me must all be wolves.
i am confusion
poe is rask taffy ender and is confused at rask town-reading him. could be w/w too
i dont village read eph but i dont want them to die d1 for similar reasons
as of 381
3 insomnia (Visor, Raskolnikov, EnderWiggin)
2 EnderWiggin (Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Mischief)
1 Lantana (dyachei)
1 Totally not Taffy (Sunbae)
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:58
Sunbae better get back on insom or I will turnaround on my secret townread there.
But if they outed Ender with it, I will applaud. (I am mentally)
sorry this tally is incorrect
3 insomnia (Visor, Raskolnikov, EnderWiggin)
3 EnderWiggin (dyachei, Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
1 Ephemeral (Lantana)
as of 368
Vote: Totally not Taffy
I do. And I do not remember you clogging up a thread before. In fact most of the time you're not around EoD (and our EoDs are hardly ever this eventful). You also don't usually call someone you previously townread a wolf just because they make a wrong read on you - in fact you once called me out for making the mistake of thinking that people who sus me must all be wolves.
this is what you chose to comment on?
40 minutes after your last post that was also talking about blade?
at eod?
vote: lantana
look, i get not v reading me sometimes when I haven't been towny but I'm not sure why my play this game is being classed as "pure null"
So what you're saying is that I should be following others on you despite no one apart from ender, who I think could be scum, telling me what there is to follow? dyachei
im gonna feel awful if they are v lmao
EnderWiggin
05-23-2022, 00:59
I do. And I do not remember you clogging up a thread before. In fact most of the time you're not around EoD (and our EoDs are hardly ever this eventful). You also don't usually call someone you previously townread a wolf just because they make a wrong read on you - in fact you once called me out for making the mistake of thinking that people who sus me must all be wolves.
I could make a TMI joke but I won't.
Raskolnikov
05-23-2022, 00:59
poe is rask taffy ender and is confused at rask town-reading him. could be w/w too
that's meta. or me being wrong.
So what you're saying is that I should be following others on you despite no one apart from ender, who I think could be scum, telling me what there is to follow? dyachei
i think i'm readable this game. And I find it hard to believe you dont see that
i think i'm readable this game. And I find it hard to believe you dont see that
Maybe you are, not for me yet :) and you are welcome to call that wolfy!
Day 1 is over. DO NOT POST.
few minutes to double check votecount
:skull: 3 Totally not Taffy (dyachei, Sunbae, Visor)
2 EnderWiggin (Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Mischief)
2 insomnia (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov)
Not Voting: insomnia
correction, insomnia voted in 175. Please use 'Vote:' instead of 'Vote :' in the future, I find votes by ctrl+f.
Also forgot to sort by vote order instead of alphabetical.
:skull: 3 Totally not Taffy (Visor, Sunbae, dyachei)
2 insomnia (Raskolnikov, EnderWiggin)
2 EnderWiggin (Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Mischief)
1 Raskolnikov (insomnia)
Totally not Taffy was eliminated.
They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!
https://i.imgur.com/bq60dRL.png
Night actions for night 2 are due in thunderously calm
Do not post until I explicitly say so.
Alive: 9/10
dyachei
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Lantana
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor
Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt
dyachei was killed.
They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!
https://i.imgur.com/GgvaAO5.png
Lantana was killed.
They were NOT Sufjan Stevens, but a Subaru!
https://i.imgur.com/lXXWTQq.jpg?1
The man who taught me to swim
He couldn't quite say my first name
Like a father, he led Community water upon my head
And he called me "Subaru"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMKP2Vcc6wA
Day 3 ends in thunderously calm
You may now post! :whip:
Alive: 7/10
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor
Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt
dyachei - n1, vt
Lantana - n1, mafia
Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?
Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.
I'm going to take Dya's Insomnia read into account + the whole "Pointed Question" thing or whatever it was between Lan/Insomnia that Rask talked about and think I'm good giving Insomnia the day too today
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:02
Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?
Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.
Vote: Ender
Sir, I was a wagon during EOD.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:03
Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?
Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.
Just going to repost my quote because I forgot to bold.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:04
I also think I tried to start a Lantana wagon at eod.
Either that or I thought about it.
I don't remember.
Vote: Raskolnikov
Random vote on Rask to open, who hadn't posted.
Visorslash villager I believe. Justification to come later if I feel the same - riding the vibe for now.
Actually on re-read I retract my v read on visor. I am told he has word salad reads more often as a villager and makes his reads more polished as a wolf, and post 59 looked word salad-y (thereby town meta). If this meta is wrong, blame Katze. That aside though.
His latest string of posting feels like a diplomatic wolf and more closely resembles someone who’s acutely aware of everything they’re posting and the optics. I think this holds true even with meta aside.
Vote visor
I don't think you see this flip flop from w/w in this way? Would expect a more pointed A HA GOTCHA theater than a "lol meta read from katze go brrrr"
Vote: Ephemeral
I don't really want to kill visor today; insomnia I was fine with him (by extension raskolnikov saying I was shading insomnia is not nya).
lemme order my reads
Tried to kill Ephem
I think if Rask w then Insomnia v for the phrasing of MY phrasing to insomnia earlier.
For those not aware of what i'm referring to, insomnia asked me a very weighted question from my point of view, I asked why he did so, and Rask thought my weighted question (whilst answering insomnia's weighted question) was noteworthy. I think i'd see that more from a wolf wanting to cause villager villager violence in general than a villager tuning into a random conversation.
As for what that means for Insom's alignment if Rask is indeed a wolf the same would probably apply (Insom v). Although I say that not having thought of what a wolf alternative would look like #yolo
The Rask W/Insom v thing and the "dont wanna kill insom" has me thinking it could be there instead of Ender, but I'll sponge Dya first
Just going to repost my quote because I forgot to bold.
Yes, if Rask/Visor/Mischief are wolves then you have to be a villager because they are the last one remaining. In those worlds, why would they be so active on v/v/v/v wagons?
I also think I tried to start a Lantana wagon at eod.
Either that or I thought about it.
I don't remember.
Will check all that out as well soon (well, maybe soon. maybe overnight). Just going through Lan's iso first. If I'm not correct don't sweat it, I'm sure I'll work it out ok.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:10
@Ender: taffy because I am not sure his villa read on you was a joke and his ISO looks filled with posts made to post Id say.
Lantana because of the focus on visor (weird meta read from katze too lol. Visor liked it, I really didnt: i think he isnt ez to read and if you ask someone about him, you arent likely to come and sheep/use it this way). Also there is a post looking blatantly like a shade on insomnia.
Finally their early banter looked like ww to me. Dunno, it was straight up at the start, but they arent probbing or trying to figure each other out.
Now back to F1
Also this is just town ftr.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:12
Will check all that out as well soon (well, maybe soon. maybe overnight). Just going through Lan's iso first. If I'm not correct don't sweat it, I'm sure I'll work it out ok.
Oh I actually just was the only one sitting on Lan until I sheeped you onto Insomnia.
Not as clearing as I thought but anyway.
Prolly gonna reread it but one wolf in Lantana/taffy.
Wondering if Visor being defensive and willing to articulate read so early is AI or a product of the 24h lenght phase
@Ender: taffy because I am not sure his villa read on you was a joke and his ISO looks filled with posts made to post Id say.
Lantana because of the focus on visor (weird meta read from katze too lol. Visor liked it, I really didnt: i think he isnt ez to read and if you ask someone about him, you arent likely to come and sheep/use it this way). Also there is a post looking blatantly like a shade on insomnia.
Finally their early banter looked like ww to me. Dunno, it was straight up at the start, but they arent probbing or trying to figure each other out.
Now back to F1
Yes Sunbae, its this one post.
Because insomnia reasoning seems valid to me, like lanfantana had been around and had stuff to comment on, but instead decided to park on me out of an rvs vote when we have zero history. Weird.
Taffy still a wolf. Lanfantana would like to come back to chat (fun fact brought by Raskol - chat is the French word for cat)
lol Sunbae (sorry I can't articulate this read better tbh. but this is my guenine reaction to your vote when I return and explain where I am about Lanfantana -since you asked - and you vote me)
Dya null
visor null
Ender light villa (for tiny reasons, but I can generally accuratly read him scum when he is, and I am not pinged yet so there is that)
Ephe prolly villa (this is a bad activity read)
insomnia prolly not ww with lanfantana.
relax, I am a villager. What does it change for you?
also pov: could you rephrase why you thought he was asking you a "very weighted question"?
You sound fun. I'll come back to it if insomnia is town :bounce:
I can't imagine this is w/w. Very pointed and consistent about concerns and pressures there. I'm pretty intrigued on the Insomnia portion of this. Rask, do you still think that can't be w/w?
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:13
Mischief is not, funnily enough, my super secret wolf read.
Oh yeah this was Lantana.
Again not clearing but lmao me.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:15
Beat you to the Raskol townread lel
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:17
Visor is also still town btw.
I'm downgrading Sunbae from towncore for reasons that aren't "They sus me" although I am a sensitive soul it's true.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:20
So what you're saying is that I should be following others on you despite no one apart from ender, who I think could be scum, telling me what there is to follow? dyachei
This post is one of the reasons I decided I wanted to kill Lantana at EOD btw.
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
That's a lot of insomnia defense near eod. Maybe the snippiness of the "weighted questions" which didn't really show up elsewhere was because it was w/w?
I think I'm rather comfortable saying Mischief/Visor/Rask/Ephem are clear and its just in Ender/Insomnia
Visor is also still town btw.
I'm downgrading Sunbae from towncore for reasons that aren't "They sus me" although I am a sensitive soul it's true.
You can't make me talk about myself and "if i were a wolf stuff"
I refuse!
Ima go eat and be back during the overnight phase. I'll probably try to condense my headspace into one post when I return. Sorry for the bit of spamming, just kinda got into it a bit.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:24
Sunbae
Taffy
Mischief
Dyachei
Visorslash
Raskolnikov
Enderwiggin
Ephemeral
Dyachei is probably true null which means I need to find more town reads and/or dyachei needs to be townier
I also had insomnia has my third town but I didn't wanna have him there if he's gonna flip wolf in 10 minutes nya
I def prefer Ephemeral, I can go check his posts again to confirm this (or potentially feel differently :bow:)
Insomnia/Mischief/Sunbae wolf POE?
Visor/Raskol have other reasons to townread
Ephemeral is generally town by how Lantana treated them.
And thene there's me.
Ah, I'm a genius at counting.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:25
He was asking me a very weighted question!
for the first question, couldn't say for more generalities, for insomnia it wouldn't mean anything for that specific context! if you think otherwise I am all nyas (ears)
Wait nevermind.
Vote: Insomnia
Sunbae tinfoil can be kept in the cupboard.
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:29
Why is your question to me not really phrased as a question but more a demand for information? Am I wrong in thinking there isn?t some negative weight to the demand?
Nya if I misread!
I didn?t really have a particular reason for Raskolnikov nor was it to generate discussion either! Though it?s always nice when life delivers lemons as is the case right now :3
The question is, is this theatre?
Mischief
05-24-2022, 01:34
Having read back a bit.
Throughout D1 Ender was voting Lantana, and tbh, one thing I thought was suspicious about Ender (and somewhat Rask) were that I thought Lantana was slightly villagery, and they both seemed to have an opposite perspective.
With the flips in mind, I think both look fine as a result (Ender voting Lantana and pushing them, and Lantana trying to Wagon Rask).
I kind of had two worlds.
One with Ender/Rask, and one with Taffy/Lantana, and thought that Taffy was also slightly villagery (in our interactions, how they responded to my catch up posts), so I was less inclined to believe the latter being the wolf wolf.
That said, at this point, I do think it's outside of Ender and Rask, and outside of my main village reads, which leaves Ephemeral and Insomnia.
Mischief
05-24-2022, 01:38
For now I'll place my vote on what seems most likely out of the options
Vote: Insomnia
The only thing I dislike about this is that I did think they were a little villagery at some points, but I also thought that of Lantana.
Unrelated: it doesn't look like I have covid (thankfully), I feel better today. It must have been either foodborne illness or maybe cross contamination with an allergen (I ate at a ramen shop, and the only allergy I really know about is shellfish).
Mischief
05-24-2022, 01:39
The question is, is this theatre?
I think this would be a pretty bizarre thing to say if it's W/W.
Like, if I were a wolf, I'd probably just say "Just pressure, I've played with them in the past and they went UTR for too long" and give some fairly legitimate reason, rather than "just for funzies"
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 01:43
I think this would be a pretty bizarre thing to say if it's W/W.
Like, if I were a wolf, I'd probably just say "Just pressure, I've played with them in the past and they went UTR for too long" and give some fairly legitimate reason, rather than "just for funzies"
Reason I asked was because that was a response to Insomnia.
im willing to just clear raskol i think
posts were fine yday, good posts about lantana
remember when i said there was a hilarious sunbae/lantana wolf world?
:worried:
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 02:09
remember when i said there was a hilarious sunbae/lantana wolf world?
:worried:
Is it hilarious now?
Mischief
05-24-2022, 02:54
remember when i said there was a hilarious sunbae/lantana wolf world?
:worried:
I don't remember if you answered last time, so I'll ask again this time.
Is this a shitpost or an actual thought?
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 03:11
I think my POE of 3 works well.
I don't remember if you answered last time, so I'll ask again this time.
Is this a shitpost or an actual thought?
somewhat shitpostery with a nugget of seriousness
heres my thought process rn without rereading:
Alive: 7/10
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor
Visor - lickitty lack claire
Raskol - pushed lantana/posts good
Sunabe - posts good, didn't really seem to post in a way that enabled lantana
Ephemeral - pushed by lantana in a situation that didn't really make sense (but i guess this is a vig turbo...)
Ender - decided to shitpost at eod, potentially playing up the angle that he didnt care (reminds me a bit of last game), maybe that was the angle he thought he needed to take to survive. did apparently shade lantana a bit need to reread here
Mischief - idkmybffjill
insomnia - idkmybffjill, narrow focus maybe wolfy? need to see what they say today
Mischief
05-24-2022, 03:35
heres my thought process rn without rereading:
Alive: 7/10
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor
Visor - lickitty lack claire
Raskol - pushed lantana/posts good
Sunabe - posts good, didn't really seem to post in a way that enabled lantana
Ephemeral - pushed by lantana in a situation that didn't really make sense (but i guess this is a vig turbo...)
Ender - decided to shitpost at eod, potentially playing up the angle that he didnt care (reminds me a bit of last game), maybe that was the angle he thought he needed to take to survive. did apparently shade lantana a bit need to reread here
Mischief - idkmybffjill
insomnia - idkmybffjill, narrow focus maybe wolfy? need to see what they say today
You don't know your best friend forever Jill?
alr saw some posts saying spamposting here is frowned upon so i tried to read through everything and condense things in 1 post
i really don't understand visor's taffy read. i thought taffy started with a semi-awkward opening that i wouldn't really wolfread without meta, but it kept me on my toes. apparently visor had the opposite take but from his reasoning it didn't make much sense to me. gth his sunbae v read so soon might be a better look? idk them well enough to shake off my early feeling about visor
sunbae's gripes seemed ~ok, not that villagery. i wanna lean into saying experienced players picking on a detail like that is a good look ig
mischief's starting posts seemed underwhelming for them but i have no thoughts on their follow-up
das bout it
its interesting in hindsight that this is all negative takes on people
like he has no indications of villageriness, certainly not actively trying to village read anyone
other thing is that mischief and lantana dont talk much in the first page (80 ppp)
or much at all
vote: mischief for now i think
"That's rather quick.
What is your reasoning there?"
mischief on dyas read on me, feels stilted
idk, i think mischief might be the wolf fellas
rereading eph and seems ok
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 03:47
I'd probably lock Eph until f3.
yea reread has convinced me
i think mischief is the wolf
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 03:48
Do you know why people have trouble scumreading me for the most part? Because I do the shitposting thing as both lmao
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 03:52
Also given my recent doubts about Insomnia/Lantana theatre I'm willing to move
Vote: Mischief
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 03:53
Will do a Mischief reread later myself.
Mischief
05-24-2022, 04:03
other thing is that mischief and lantana dont talk much in the first page (80 ppp)
or much at all
vote: mischief for now i think
"That's rather quick.
What is your reasoning there?"
mischief on dyas read on me, feels stilted
idk, i think mischief might be the wolf fellas
rereading eph and seems ok
Regarding the first page part.
I was literally gone until the end of that page, when I was catching up.
Whether you're a villager or a wolf, this is kind of bullshit reasoning.
I'd have no disagreement that my light villa read on Lantana doesn't look great on me, but that's not what you are picking at, and what you're picking at is legitimately not good.
I don't care if I get wagoned today, to eliminate me from the POE, but should that occur, I want this push to be kept in mind after my flip.
It is not a good look.
That isn't to say I want you to be wagoned, I want this to be factored into everyone's evaluation of you should I die, and for those who read you better than I to take it into consideration.
Though I still stand by the idea that there was nothing strange about me asking Dya about an almost instantaneous read on you upon entering the thread, and similarly there was nothing strange about my consideration and assessment that my initial push and vote on you was indeed based on a likely flawed belief that you would retain enough familiarity with my play to know better, making it an unfair push.
I take fairness very seriously, and attempt not to place unfair expectations upon people, so that being pointed out to me by Dya and Sunbae is something I took seriously.
Hi visor,
I'm having problems with clearing multiquotes. Is there a clear mq button or do I just need to dump them in a post?
Hi visor,
I'm having problems with clearing multiquotes. Is there a clear mq button or do I just need to dump them in a post?
im not sure, id just dump em
Why is your question to me not really phrased as a question but more a demand for information? Am I wrong in thinking there isn?t some negative weight to the demand?
Nya if I misread!
I didn?t really have a particular reason for Raskolnikov nor was it to generate discussion either! Though it?s always nice when life delivers lemons as is the case right now :3
checks out, I?m fine with a lower volume game personally and tend to post way too much now. This will be a good lesson regardless of outcome.
Also I think a bubbly = towny description is fine for me at the moment, but I can get quite feisty just for full disclosure. As in? don?t just wolf read me if I am not a single wave bubbly nya
This seems towny. Surface level towny.
On second thoughts I do think a wolf is less likely to express the thought in general and just post lots for the sweet town cred.
So, cool Sunbae.
Getting some nice town reads for the situation :2thumbsup:
Actually on re-read I retract my v read on visor. I am told he has word salad reads more often as a villager and makes his reads more polished as a wolf, and post 59 looked word salad-y (thereby town meta). If this meta is wrong, blame Katze. That aside though.
His latest string of posting feels like a diplomatic wolf and more closely resembles someone who?s acutely aware of everything they?re posting and the optics. I think this holds true even with meta aside.
Vote visor
Ender can you state your earlier reasons on me (again, if it was done originally...)?
OK visor, will note for next time.
Whoever is interested - just making sure there is no iso button? can't find one. won't be a problem but worth asking.
Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?
ignore the quote dump
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:05
Sup friendos.
Vote: Insomnia
I'm going to separate this post from the one on the overview of everyone else. After getting the chance to reread the thread I think the wolf is Insomnia via interactions with Lan in both directions, the wolf case Insom provided, and overall poe from the rest of the game (which I'll get to in a post shortly).
1. I believe the way Lan discussed Insomnia throughout the game is partnered. First with the posts dicussing Insom during the end of day.
Vote: Ephemeral
I don't really want to kill visor today; insomnia I was fine with him (by extension raskolnikov saying I was shading insomnia is not nya).
lemme order my reads
I think if Rask w then Insomnia v for the phrasing of MY phrasing to insomnia earlier.
For those not aware of what i'm referring to, insomnia asked me a very weighted question from my point of view, I asked why he did so, and Rask thought my weighted question (whilst answering insomnia's weighted question) was noteworthy. I think i'd see that more from a wolf wanting to cause villager villager violence in general than a villager tuning into a random conversation.
As for what that means for Insom's alignment if Rask is indeed a wolf the same would probably apply (Insom v). Although I say that not having thought of what a wolf alternative would look like #yolo
I'm still living off my take last night where he skipped RVS and got into some pretty immediate shading, I think that's more typically villagery than not, though i'll have to see how I feel about placing him against others (momentarily)
He was asking me a very weighted question!
for the first question, couldn't say for more generalities, for insomnia it wouldn't mean anything for that specific context! if you think otherwise I am all nyas (ears)
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
I may vote you at EOD
In these sections we have a tacked on ?Insomnia I was fine with him?, pushing on Rask and calling Insomnia V if Rask W, defending Insomnia for RVS stage stuff, a post shading Insom for ?a very weighted question? despite calling it v/v violence, way more sus on ephem than insomnia (but not wanting to defend wagons!), and threatening to vote Ender at EOD when wagons are Ender/Insom. These are all posts trying very, very hard to get anyone but Insomnia killed.
2. I think these posts in particular are near-damning given the rest of the posts around it.
Sunbae
Taffy
Mischief
Dyachei
Visorslash
Raskolnikov
Enderwiggin
Ephemeral
Dyachei is probably true null which means I need to find more town reads and/or dyachei needs to be townier
I also had insomnia has my third town but I didn't wanna have him there if he's gonna flip wolf in 10 minutes nya
I def prefer Ephemeral, I can go check his posts again to confirm this (or potentially feel differently :bow:)
I'll ignore the ?Insomnia about to flip wolf? part as a reason to leave him off. That can be wifom. This list bottom is the two counterwagons (Ephem, Ender) to Insomnia. At the time the wagons are 4 Insomnia, 3 Ender, 1 Ephemeral. The next lowest is Rask (voting Insomnia). The next lowest is Visor (voting Insomnia). The second highest townread is Taffy. Two posts later a Taffy wagon starts and there is no Taffy defense the way they've defended Insomnia. In fact, they follow up with this post once it starts:
poe is rask taffy ender and is confused at rask town-reading him. could be w/w too
Now Taffy is in the POE. It's like 15 posts apart. No defense, no explanation, no nothing. This does not read like a wolf trying to position themselves well from a villager flip incoming by defending Insomnia/Taffy. They just threw anyone-but-insomnia under the bus.
3. The way Lan talks to everyone else is different from the way they talk to Insomnia. Posts towards me, visor, ender, dya, mischief are all like, tiptoeing around and being super pleasant/fair/friendly even if it's wolf reads or disagreement. The post towards insomnia is so darn pointed and comes out of nowhere. Bubbly before hand, pointed to insomnia, bubbly afterwards. My read on it is that it's purposefully pointed because it goes nowhere, brings no suspicion, and ends with a hard defense throughout end of day.
Why is your question to me not really phrased as a question but more a demand for information? Am I wrong in thinking there isn?t some negative weight to the demand?
Nya if I misread!
I didn?t really have a particular reason for Raskolnikov nor was it to generate discussion either! Though it?s always nice when life delivers lemons as is the case right now :3
checks out, I?m fine with a lower volume game personally and tend to post way too much now. This will be a good lesson regardless of outcome.
Also I think a bubbly = towny description is fine for me at the moment, but I can get quite feisty just for full disclosure. As in? don?t just wolf read me if I am not a single wave bubbly nya
This seems towny. Surface level towny.
On second thoughts I do think a wolf is less likely to express the thought in general and just post lots for the sweet town cred.
So, cool Sunbae.
Getting some nice town reads for the situation :2thumbsup:
Actually on re-read I retract my v read on visor. I am told he has word salad reads more often as a villager and makes his reads more polished as a wolf, and post 59 looked word salad-y (thereby town meta). If this meta is wrong, blame Katze. That aside though.
His latest string of posting feels like a diplomatic wolf and more closely resembles someone who?s acutely aware of everything they?re posting and the optics. I think this holds true even with meta aside.
Vote visor
Ender can you state your earlier reasons on me (again, if it was done originally...)?
OK visor, will note for next time.
Whoever is interested - just making sure there is no iso button? can't find one. won't be a problem but worth asking.
Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?
4. I think Insomnia's Rask case was wolfy independently of any other interactions. Throwing all the reasons and credit at my feet despite me never making much of a case at all on Rask nor attempting to get anyone to look into him. I was just voting someone for vibe reasons. Rereading the thread with the knowledge that Lan is a wolf has me more unhappy with it. At the start of the game Insomnia throws out some shade for Lan RVS voting Rask before Rask posted. That's the post that started the whole ?pointed question? thing. Later, once I vote Rask, Insomnia looks over them ?for Sunbae? here and plops a vote down:
gave rask a re-read #forsunbae. i take issue mostly with the things in red.
the first visor thing seems like a disconnected thought that wouldn't really make it in the same post where he's calling people out (this is a bit nitpicky)
the second thing he drops in "they shaded insomnia" without any explanation for why that should be wolfy. i see no gears spinning that got rask to believe it was from a wolf agenda or to attempt to distinguish between wolf / town motivation. just said lantana did it and it's supposed to be wolfy. also in the same line from the start he frames it as lantana being wolfy for focusing on visor, then he adds the most important part about why that should be wolfy (the katze meta) like it would be a plus to the visor thing. it just doesn't seem..genuine tho im sure there's a better word
normally i'd place this on the backburner and ponder upon but i really have to go and place a vote
Vote : Raskolnikov
i'll be honest i did call this out too, it's def omega weird ~:handball:
In it, one of the reasons for finding Rask wolfy is the shading Insomnia post by Rask about Lan. Then Insomnia follows it up with agreeing with Rask that the Lan post was weird. Despite calling out Lan for that post, having a small pointed exchange, thinking it was weird Lan voted Rask in RVS, and then agreeing with Rask that it was weird, he landed on Rask instead of Lan. Small shade, never developing to anything, voting the person bringing heat to their interaction.
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:10
I can't imagine this is w/w. Very pointed and consistent about concerns and pressures there. I'm pretty intrigued on the Insomnia portion of this. Rask, do you still think that can't be w/w?
I think its unlikely? I mainly voted insom at EOD because I didnt think Blade was wolfing.
Now I am at Mischief, or a secret tinfoil (not Visor) :hide:
A bit sadge my breadscrumbs didnt get me a N1. Next time Ill ask respectfuflly.
Also, any thought on why Dya? Who kills Dya here?
sup rask.
case works for me sunbae
out of curiosity, if insom flips v, who is next for you?
I think its unlikely? I mainly voted insom at EOD because I didnt think Blade was wolfing.
Now I am at Mischief, or a secret tinfoil (not Visor) :hide:
A bit sadge my breadscrumbs didnt get me a N1. Next time Ill ask respectfuflly.
Also, any thought on why Dya? Who kills Dya here?
dya def wolfread lantana - so theres the lantana aspect
dya townread insomnia, townread me, townread rask,
voted ender?
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:15
Lol Sunbae, I had forgotten these eod posts. I dont know if w!lanfantana spews him like that but thats something indeed
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:16
dya def wolfread lantana - so theres the lantana aspect
dya townread insomnia, townread me, townread rask,
voted ender?
Oh its just insom then.
NyA!
Vote: insomnia
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:18
Ender I still dont think is wolfing
nobody wolfread dya iirc
if dya is correct, wolves are just ender/lantana
ender/mischief/insom are my poe
re mischief and lantana interaction sunbae: it didn't feel to me like there was any real attempt by lantana or mischief to engage with each other. michief had the entry that taffy and i commented on but lantana didnt, (even though lantana saw the posts because they commented on me after that iirc), and the question lantana asked mischief is something that could easily be w/w in that its a very simple fake interaction thingo
the light townread stuff but also never interacting seems weird to me on both ends
Oh its just insom then.
NyA!
Vote: insomnia
i dont get it
just from memory but "Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?"
is their only interaction? just weird to me
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:23
i dont get it
I think the wolf is in this list, I town read you and Ender.
If its not insom, I still like mischief smh.
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:24
I am out of town friendos, I ll follow on phone but cant do actual work till closer to eod btw.
I think the wolf is in this list, I town read you and Ender.
If its not insom, I still like mischief smh.
ah ok
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 07:27
Yeah Visor, i am not saying it should make sense outside of my brain lol. Spare me, I am ackward :curtain:
Headspace with the rest of the game (I aint got the energy after that to go into super detail right now):
Tier 1
Ephemeral: Was attempted to be killed by Lan during the end of eod. Almost certainly a villager.
Rask: Called out Lan early, posted well, Lan went hard at them throughout the day: Voted them as the first real wagon that developed during mid day, started using their push on rask flipping wolf to make reads off of other players in a way that would not benefit wolves. Like, it wasn't trying to chain rask wolf into killing villagers that could be partnered with Rask. It was trying to clear people based off Rask flip. Dya also said very different from their w/w game if you're into meta reads. Almost certainly a villager.
Tier 2
Visor: I don't think the way Lan shifted on their read on Visor from V to W citing KATZE META and being diplomatic instead of word salad is w/w. I also don't think, if manufactured, that is the way Visor responds. Nice, laid back, relaxed “I am aware of everything I post”, “yes my posting style can change”, and “I don't see an issue with being diplomatic”. There's no tension nor something for him to point back to for credit (and in that interaction I think it'd certainly be him going for the look good credit and not the other way around). I recognize that this is, well, ironic given I'm giving him credit for it. But I hope that distinction makes sense. Very likely a villager.
Mischief: I think the way Mischief played is right inside town meta. The deference to me/dya on a read of Visor felt really pure, sure, but I'm talking more of the mild stubborness about working via POE in a small game like this. Find villa reads, box out the rest, vote your best bet in there. I liked their backing off of Visor and Rask in that way after those interactions. Knowing that Lan is a wolf, the way they said they'll back off of Rask for now but will revisit if Ender is a wolf is a really good look I think. That's agendaless, no way for ender to flip wolf in a wolf!mischief world now. Very likely a villager.
Tier 3
Ender: If it's not insomnia I think it has to be here. I wish I had some like, big things to point towards but I don't. It's pure poe at this point but I don't think it's reasonable to have big things for EnderWolf anyways. This is a shitty blurb on him, I know. I'm tired. I'm hoping it doesn't matter. If it does I'll do my due diligence.
Insomnia: wrote about this already, think its the wolf
just from memory but "Mischief what's your Rasko read summarized in one sentence now?"
is their only interaction? just weird to me
Would it be helpful for us to talk about Mischief more? I really don't think that's the answer (and I think the lack of any interaction between them and the wolf is a town indicative thing rather than a wolf one).
Now that we're in the "find the lone wolf" phase of the game I think we should mostly just focus on day 1 with the new info we've accrued. It's really easy for the wolf to sound villagery from this point on and I've seen too many games go from a "village collective is doing great" situation to a "oh the lone wolf is making a real run of it because they just are posting better" lately. Last game here, cog psy off the top of my head. Just like, keep in mind that they'll sound good (everyone in this game will) and just focus on d1 with lots of wagons, interactions, and the nks (past/future). Hoping this is just another "lol covering bases in a locked game" situation but yeah
I think its unlikely? I mainly voted insom at EOD because I didnt think Blade was wolfing.
Now I am at Mischief, or a secret tinfoil (not Visor) :hide:
A bit sadge my breadscrumbs didnt get me a N1. Next time Ill ask respectfuflly.
Also, any thought on why Dya? Who kills Dya here?
If you don't think it's insom or ender then this game is going to be really hard. I think like visor said, going at Lan was probably it.
Not to counter your point, because I agree with it, bit cog psy.... If anything c4s posting got worse, he was just hard defended by SPF because of bad meta claims
I tried to kill him for days lol
Would it be helpful for us to talk about Mischief more? I really don't think that's the answer (and I think the lack of any interaction between them and the wolf is a town indicative thing rather than a wolf one).
Talk about why it seems more town indicative for you if you could
And ya it'd help me.
Not to counter your point, because I agree with it, bit cog psy.... If anything c4s posting got worse, he was just hard defended by SPF because of bad meta claims
I tried to kill him for days lol
lol, fair. i just remember sitting in spec saying "but we had such a good poe that we got to collectively please follow it :scastle3: "
lol, fair. i just remember sitting in spec saying "but we had such a good poe that we got to collectively please follow it :scastle3: "
it was nearly a 4th quarter collapse for the ages, that f5 really bugs me lol, one of these days ill write an article over why it was so bad :P (not that i died, but why/how i died)
Talk about why it seems more town indicative for you if you could
And ya it'd help me.
Because there's just ... nothing despite the way a Mischief/Lan wolf team would absolutely require something with how day 1 played out. Mischief and Lan were both rather vocal points of the thread a different parts of the day and received a decent amount of pressure. Rask and Dya went at Lan. Lan went at you and Ephemeral. Mischief went after Rask and you. You, Rask, and Taffy went at Mischief. If that's the wolf team how can they never defend each other or start to press each other? They are never, ever sweeping here with that day 1 pressure on both in a vig game and need to do * something *. I can see arguments if they started defending each other: they were under so much pressure they needed to try and sway consensus away. I can see arguments if they had pointed discussions with each other: they needed to look good once one flipped. They have nothing. At no point did they try to help, did they try to distance, did they have any foresight into future days. If that's the team, what are they doing?
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:05
Soon you'll be the Ad-visor
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:05
Because there's just ... nothing despite the way a Mischief/Lan wolf team would absolutely require something with how day 1 played out. Mischief and Lan were both rather vocal points of the thread a different parts of the day and received a decent amount of pressure. Rask and Dya went at Lan. Lan went at you and Ephemeral. Mischief went after Rask and you. You, Rask, and Taffy went at Mischief. If that's the wolf team how can they never defend each other or start to press each other? They are never, ever sweeping here with that day 1 pressure on both in a vig game and need to do * something *. I can see arguments if they started defending each other: they were under so much pressure they needed to try and sway consensus away. I can see arguments if they had pointed discussions with each other: they needed to look good once one flipped. They have nothing. At no point did they try to help, did they try to distance, did they have any foresight into future days. If that's the team, what are they doing?
Vibing.
Because there's just ... nothing despite the way a Mischief/Lan wolf team would absolutely require something with how day 1 played out. Mischief and Lan were both rather vocal points of the thread a different parts of the day and received a decent amount of pressure. Rask and Dya went at Lan. Lan went at you and Ephemeral. Mischief went after Rask and you. You, Rask, and Taffy went at Mischief. If that's the wolf team how can they never defend each other or start to press each other? They are never, ever sweeping here with that day 1 pressure on both in a vig game and need to do * something *. I can see arguments if they started defending each other: they were under so much pressure they needed to try and sway consensus away. I can see arguments if they had pointed discussions with each other: they needed to look good once one flipped. They have nothing. At no point did they try to help, did they try to distance, did they have any foresight into future days. If that's the team, what are they doing?
surviving, i guess.
im wary because wolves have to interact with villagers extensively because thats how they progress in the game, and there just seems to be zero real consideration from either side of each other
it was nearly a 4th quarter collapse for the ages, that f5 really bugs me lol, one of these days ill write an article over why it was so bad :P (not that i died, but why/how i died)
I'll make you a deal. You write that one and I'll finally get the villaging in a mash one in the books too
as an aside, im just not feeeeeeling solving from mischief in terms of investigative stuff
like he defends himself from me, but hes not exploring where he wants to kill etc
I'll make you a deal. You write that one and I'll finally get the villaging in a mash one in the books too
lmao i have an ego, but not that big, id never actually write that article :P
i may update my turbo article tho
i will prob vote insomnia fwiw, im not gonna hold the thread hostage for the mischief kill lol
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:11
Ender: If it's not insomnia I think it has to be here. I wish I had some like, big things to point towards but I don't. It's pure poe at this point but I don't think it's reasonable to have big things for EnderWolf anyways. This is a shitty blurb on him, I know. I'm tired. I'm hoping it doesn't matter. If it does I'll do my due diligence.
If it helps, I do like it when people say they don't have big things to find on me. =P
lmao i have an ego, but not that big, id never actually write that article :P
i may update my turbo article tho
You just gotta frame it as "how to find the lone wolf in end game and not succumb to information overload or paranoia". It's all about the marketing.
Acting like my "how to mash as a villager" article aint gonna be me talking about getting chopped as a 200 poster against the 4 poster in final 5. We all know it is lol
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:17
200 posts of pure wolfish intent to be sure.
Raskolnikov
05-24-2022, 08:18
Ill vig Ender tonight. Just assume it is done
as an aside, im just not feeeeeeling solving from mischief in terms of investigative stuff
like he defends himself from me, but hes not exploring where he wants to kill etc
My experience with Mischief is that he's a lot more reserved on where to kill as a villager and finds spots he likes, goes in on them, and if they dont pan out takes a while to reorient himself. As a wolf he flings votes around a fair bit more with little rhyme or reason. I understand what you're saying and why you're concerned but I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him when he was concerned about you: I think you're misguided here for understandable reasons.
I'm ... trying to do better about that thing I do where I feel good about something and then kinda just put it out into the thread instead of working hard to help others see it too. I'm also thinking that - while I'm hoping this is the easy world and I nabbed a really good case and solved the game - there is a possibility that we live in a hard world (like Rask currently doesn't think it's either of my bottom 2) and if we do *that* is the kill the wolves absolutely need and I'm going to try and vocalize my belief that it's not it and prevent it.
You just gotta frame it as "how to find the lone wolf in end game and not succumb to information overload or paranoia". It's all about the marketing.
Acting like my "how to mash as a villager" article aint gonna be me talking about getting chopped as a 200 poster against the 4 poster in final 5. We all know it is lol
Lmao clever
Lolneighbourhoods
surviving, i guess.
im wary because wolves have to interact with villagers extensively because thats how they progress in the game, and there just seems to be zero real consideration from either side of each other
I definitely agree on the zero consideration from either side. Do you think I'm just like, overestimating the amount of foresight wolves should be having here?
I'll be around for the next six hours if ppl wanna talk but I don't have a lot to say until insomnia eph mischief all check in
I definitely agree on the zero consideration from either side. Do you think I'm just like, overestimating the amount of foresight wolves should be having here?
I think it's possible that the wolves aren't planning with foresight and intend to just play by ear, which means doing whatever to survive today, hope you're alive tomorrow.
Some wolves do act with foresight and it's possible here, I'm just wary of banking on it
200 posts of pure wolfish intent to be sure.
I went through the full gauntlet of emotion during that phase. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, Posting Disney Songs To Feel Better
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:31
Ill vig Ender tonight. Just assume it is done
I'd vig Mischief/Sunbae over me.
I'll be around for the next six hours if ppl wanna talk but I don't have a lot to say until insomnia eph mischief all check in
Yeah, think I'll go sleep. Think I've got all of my relevant thoughts in the thread.
See ya friends
EnderWiggin
05-24-2022, 08:34
I'm heading off to D&D soon so same.
Have fun all.
Official Tally as of #489
3 insomnia (Mischief, Sunbae, Raskolnikov)
2 Mischief (Visor, EnderWiggin)
Not Voting: Ephemeral, insomnia
Day 2 ends in thunderously calm
I've updated post #3 to include the updated list of living/dead players and a link to the d1/n1 updates.
Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 09:34
morning
I'll be around to chat in a few minutes after I take care of post wake up shenanigans
something something Vote: Mischief
morning
I'll be around to chat in a few minutes after I take care of post wake up shenanigans
something something Vote: Mischief
https://i.imgur.com/ApjVnee.gif?noredirect
Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 10:25
https://i.imgur.com/ApjVnee.gif?noredirect
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Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 10:29
there was a bunch of handwaving going on with mischief and lantana last eod that I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to read into but I recall it sticking out like a sore thumb when I was reading through
thots?
there was a bunch of handwaving going on with mischief and lantana last eod that I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to read into but I recall it sticking out like a sore thumb when I was reading through
thots?
can you quote it
Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 10:35
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
Ephe is squarely in my "idfk" bucket, warming up a new spot in my POE
Nya
This whole sequence
I recall being like "there has to be a wolf here" when I first saw it post eod
but I'm not sure if this actually works as w/w? whole interaction just looks weird
Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 10:36
Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,
Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment
Ephe is squarely in my "idfk" bucket, warming up a new spot in my POE
Nya
on a more important note
I decided to seriously get into chess a few days ago, been really slow because of rl stuff but I'm getting there w/r/t learning the basic stuff and it's being a lot of fun so far
Ephemeral
05-24-2022, 10:37
uh, not sure why those quotes were there again lol
Mischief
05-24-2022, 10:38
Because there's just ... nothing despite the way a Mischief/Lan wolf team would absolutely require something with how day 1 played out. Mischief and Lan were both rather vocal points of the thread a different parts of the day and received a decent amount of pressure. Rask and Dya went at Lan. Lan went at you and Ephemeral. Mischief went after Rask and you. You, Rask, and Taffy went at Mischief. If that's the wolf team how can they never defend each other or start to press each other? They are never, ever sweeping here with that day 1 pressure on both in a vig game and need to do * something *. I can see arguments if they started defending each other: they were under so much pressure they needed to try and sway consensus away. I can see arguments if they had pointed discussions with each other: they needed to look good once one flipped. They have nothing. At no point did they try to help, did they try to distance, did they have any foresight into future days. If that's the team, what are they doing?
The part about never pushing each other is more accurate for me than defending.
I tend not to defend scum partners in most cases, but I do definitely push them.
Lantana would have been in my nulls in my POE, where I would express some suspicion of them but not enough to get them wagoned.
If a wagon did start to form, though, I would place a vote there in case a bus is necessary.
In my most recent wolf game, 1/3 partners were placed in my villa reads, because they were universally villa read, one was placed as a wolf read, one was null-scum on my list.
I bussed the one in my wolf reads, and in F5 cased the hell out of my partner and a LHF villager that had some partner equity with him, to give the impression that they were the last two wolves, then directed the vote toward the villager to win it.
No one believed that I could be scum with anyone.
Alright better check this wagon again if people will actually listen to me lol
re your post eph: theres no real follow up by either mischief or lantana after that
i found this post weird - they made multiple posts saying eph is a good wagon and then posting this is just weird
mischief then goes on to vote you
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