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I'm not sure what to think about cape seeming completely unbothered by the fact that he's tied with the person he's voting.
EnderWiggin
11-03-2023, 01:52
may you be on the frontlines of the next emu war
Hell yes. My dream come true
have you talked about your ladd read at any point?
i made a single post d2 after a rask post that paired the two
efficiency
why tho
nobody thought monty was a PR (taffy just saying random things SOD D2 doesn't count), and monty was a counterwagon that survived by way of rand. there was no wolf incentive to NK him
as i pointed out i thought Monty was pretty cleared off the El Barto flip as i had discussed in SOD2 when i got here
though like the PR thing I could see them not killing monty for obviously
I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.
Raskolnikov
11-03-2023, 01:56
I take the occasion of this EOD to make it clear that Taffy was really goated and on steroid this game (just reread this lol)
"Also those who don't cooperate will be wallposted at. Long, rambling, sleep deprived wallposts with such poor formatting you'll run to the archives and stare wistfully at Monty's old games."
lmao.
(nothing game relevant to add rn. I stopped reading mid D2 because the game thread went live heh)
EnderWiggin
11-03-2023, 01:58
I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.
If you obviously seem to think Cape is more sus than Sleep...
Why aren't you willing to vote that?
Don't want to too overtly defend your buddy?
EnderWiggin
11-03-2023, 01:58
My post timing is now hilarious.
If you obviously seem to think Cape is more sus than Sleep...
Why aren't you willing to vote that?
Don't want to too overtly defend your buddy?
I'm pretty sure I've already gone all in on defending sleep
I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.
I am paranoid, but im just reserving it til after today, like I tried extending an olive branch to Sleep when he popped in the thread recently but... you know nothing.
But combined with that and me not really caring about my previous towncase on Sleep, it makes me just want to assume the i guess assumable
(47)
EnderWiggin
11-03-2023, 02:00
Last second sleep snipe who volunteers?
Raskolnikov
11-03-2023, 02:00
Vote: sleep
(buying what Ender is saying)
Votal 3.7
Sleep (5) - Cape (#736 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851299&viewfull=1#post2053851299)), ladd (#900 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851470&viewfull=1#post2053851470)), Ender (#963 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851533&viewfull=1#post2053851533)), Syn (#973 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851543&viewfull=1#post2053851543)), Visor (#1013 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851583&viewfull=1#post2053851583))
Cape (4) - Sleep (#811 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851379&viewfull=1#post2053851379)), Rask (#921 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851491&viewfull=1#post2053851491)), Jan (#958 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851528&viewfull=1#post2053851528)), Suibian (#1007 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851577&viewfull=1#post2053851577))
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Sleep is yuüt. Flip incoming.
Sleep was:
Cereal Killer, in the form of:
Asesino en cereal Zeta
Cereal? Pfauh! You spit out cereal, what fetid, unwelcomed effluviums, what snickling, brabbling, wickedly waggling, uninvitable pleonasms, nor wheat nor oat nor rice shall accost your finedangling senseness! Begone, you say, and you prepare to torch them all to Hades. A diet of meat, for you, morning or evening, meat, yes! More meat! You are cereal killer Zeta.
::)::
A night like any other, you are wandering an idle street when you think you hear a voice mumbling something about… despots? What despots? Their words sound grandiose and absurd, but you are shaken. You immediately rush home, and by the time the front door closes to your back you are drenched in sweat. Something has awoken in you, as though a key were turned in a lock deep within the recesses of your soul, and you can never go back. Or, maybe… If you destroy that voice. Maybe then, you will find peace. Yes. You must. You must destroy all cereals.
You win when all cereals have been incinerated or nothing can stop the same.
(Modnote: this means they were Mafia Goon.)
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Flavor fakeclaim
Vanilla cereal, in the form of:
Chex
Your family tree, when divorced from a series of lines on a page and thrown into the living and breathing breakfast bowl, is a chaotic mess that you would prefer not to involve yourself in. Some members are hazardous assortments of pretzelish oblongities. Others might be miniature bread sticks (you’re not even sure, yourself), and with them are unpleasant semisquare shapes that annoy the teeth and make you half wonder if you aren’t part of a bad dream dreamed by an airplane. Raw almonds, delicious in other contexts, perhaps, with limitations or specifications, and other nuts. There they all are, distressing, brittle textures all crammed in alongside you, you the tiny baby waffle with a gentle, inoffensive heart. You aren’t quite sure what to do about the situation. You are Chex.
::)::
You’ve always been afraid of death. Please don’t kill me, you whisper prayerfully to the night, but you know it ignores you. Sometimes a strange longing takes you, and for a moment you believe you’re about to meet your end. “Aquí está,” you say out loud. “Los asesinos en cereales me llevan.”
One day, as the rising sun peeks through your huddled cardboard covers, you have an epiphany, or at least a thought. “Soy le defensore de les despoetices,” you proclaim convincingly. “Y nadie puede silenciarme. ¡Adelante, mi arma es mi voz!” You emerge from your dusty fortress into the dawnlit lands and set out ayonder with tongue in hand. You may be a little bland, but you certainly have an appetite.
You win when all threats to cereal have been eaten.
Night 3 ends in: eod2
Please submit night actions at least 1 hour before deadline, thanks!
Friendly reminder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ruVe2BYes
I've decided to change the postcap to 1 post but you can post more than that if they're gifs only okay nevermind that's a terrible idea just ignore me.
Syn died apparently, but they left a role PM behind at least:
Cereal 1-shot Vigilante, in the form of:
Nutri-grain
Sweat pours from your clean-shaven body—hair negatively impacts aerodynamic flow—but you barely notice; the rocky terraces of an old floodplain passing beneath your feet have your full attention. Beyond the next rise, you will mount a bicycle and cross the old floes like a majestic seal of the arctic, before you plunge into the crisp waters, newly cleared by an exploratory vessel, and swim several miles warmed only by the ferocity of your complex amino acids. Your journey comes to its end atop a rope tower stretching high above the frigid ocean. No one can deny you glory. You are Nutri-grain.
::)::
You’ve always been afraid of death. When you were a child, it took your best friend. But you were not born to be unhappy, and so you traveled into the underworld and struck a deal with Hades: you would find your friend and leave the underworld with them. At last, you were reunited with your friend, left that dank place behind, and it was there you learned that fear held nothing to the power of love and friendship.
I learned something, while I was trapped in the underworld, your friend told you, and you asked them what it was, and they told you it was the art of Noh. “Soy une sacerdote que viene de un pueblo de montaña en Kiso,” was just one of the many mysterious things you could hear in a Noh performance, according to your friend. The true secret, though, was that as long as you were performing Noh, you had power over the night. Your friend put on all manner of masks and toiled at teaching you, but you only managed to memorize a single ritual of sorts before you began to worry that you might die of old age. “Tengo que irme,” you said abruptly, one day, and left without looking back.
Once per game, during the night phase, you may target a player to bring death to them.
You win when all threats to cereal have been eaten.
Livelist
Visor
Raskolnikov
ladd
EnderWiggin
Jan
Cape90
Suibian
Day 4 ends in: eod2
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:02
Vote: Suibian
Nice frame frienda. GG WP :p
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:03
RIP Syn, I swear it's not me :curtain:
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:07
Hey Visor, I've been up to my undertitle again. Too slow and too much in a hurry to bold that vote lmao. U saved the day (Ender too despite the martinis)
EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:07
Vote: Suibian
Sorry for the rand.
EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:09
Also I wanna say my timing last EOD was hilarious.
EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:10
Hey Visor, I've been up to my undertitle again. Too slow and too much in a hurry to bold that vote lmao. U saved the day (Ender too despite the martinis)
I don't think you understand.
The Martinis make me work better.
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:10
I expect nothing less than 48 hours worth of memes folks. lettuce go
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Vote: sleep
(buying what Ender is saying)
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EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:12
I do feel kinda bad.
Sleep being mostly afk and Barto going over after posting once is a rough rand.
EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:13
I expect nothing less than 48 hours worth of memes folks. lettuce go
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I do feel kinda bad.
Sleep being mostly afk and Barto going over after posting once is a rough rand.
Yeah. I have trouble celebrating kills like that.
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Yeah. I have trouble celebrating kills like that.
ye it feels a little lame for whoever the last wolf is
i guess in a sense it makes it harder to catch them, but also takes out a lot of fun
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:16
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Yeah, tbh I had suddenly 2 minutes of panic when thinking at what Ender was saying, then I reread Suibian's last posts about me and went 'oh ss!%? she is lining me up for tmr lmao, must switch vote really quick'.
'ok done. great it's still :00'
'nooooooooooo I didn't bold that vote'
'yesssss Visor just did lmao'
2 am duck dance on my sofa :D
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:18
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ye it feels a little lame for whoever the last wolf is
i guess in a sense it makes it harder to catch them, but also takes out a lot of fun
I don't want to steal your thunder but you are basically celebrating stealing candy from a baby.
I legit went afk 30 minutes or so before the eod because I could not care less about who we kill and what the flip is in the end.
I love a challenge.
But masturbatory behavior after killing 2 wolves who basically didn't play?
I pitty the fool.
lol me I didn’t think in a million trillion years guts would play such a limp scum game. Like sure I get demotivated or busy but I never thought he’d just not vote on a day. I do not know what that means for who is partner is. His first post pinged me; I shouldn’t have written it off as a dumb though.
It’s not me but I humbly accept my punishment for being wrong. Don’t get excited and waste the day though because removing me is not the end you’re hoping for.
I want to say that him not voting on a day when Rask was in danger clears him but considering the fact that I clearly don’t understand what he would do this game I’m not 100% on that but I still think it’s likely he’s just town.
Didn’t like capes end if day posting when he was tied with Gira. Something just felt wrong there. I think that some of the interactions/ reads gira had on each other makes sense for partners. Thought him voting gira instead of me could have been distancing. I want to say though that gira voting cape after cape voted him is such a remedial scum tell that I don’t think he would do because it just makes them look partnered but again lolme at guaging what he will do as scum.
Didn’t like visor trying to claim he could only be scum with ender because of the bp thing when that’s objectively false.
lol me I didn’t think in a million trillion years guts would play such a limp scum game. Like sure I get demotivated or busy but I never thought he’d just not vote on a day. I do not know what that means for who is partner is. His first post pinged me; I shouldn’t have written it off as a dumb though.
It’s not me but I humbly accept my punishment for being wrong. Don’t get excited and waste the day though because removing me is not the end you’re hoping for.
I want to say that him not voting on a day when Rask was in danger clears him but considering the fact that I clearly don’t understand what he would do this game I’m not 100% on that but I still think it’s likely he’s just town.
Didn’t like capes end if day posting when he was tied with Gira. Something just felt wrong there. I think that some of the interactions/ reads gira had on each other makes sense for partners. Thought him voting gira instead of me could have been distancing. I want to say though that gira voting cape after cape voted him is such a remedial scum tell that I don’t think he would do because it just makes them look partnered but again lolme at guaging what he will do as scum.
Didn’t like visor trying to claim he could only be scum with ender because of the bp thing when that’s objectively false.
Cape openly admitted to doing busywork instead of solving.
I don't want to steal your thunder but you are basically celebrating stealing candy from a baby.
I legit went afk 30 minutes or so before the eod because I could not care less about who we kill and what the flip is in the end.
I love a challenge.
But masturbatory behavior after killing 2 wolves who basically didn't play?
I pitty the fool.
i don;t think you are interpreting what i am saying correctly
i am not saying look how good i am for killing two wolves who didn't play
i am laughing at myself for not doing a whole lot useful for the day phases and then happening to make a right vote in the last minute
wolves who didn't play is not a challenge, no, but we do still have one wolf alive who did play, and when you have people who don't play it essentially boils down to a sk hunt
as a wolf you feel bad because you have no support, as a villager it feels bad because you lose the sensation of playing against an actual team
but you know all that, and you should know i am not actually wanking myself off after these wolf performances lol
cmon man.
EnderWiggin
11-04-2023, 02:26
lol me I didn’t think in a million trillion years guts would play such a limp scum game. Like sure I get demotivated or busy but I never thought he’d just not vote on a day. I do not know what that means for who is partner is. His first post pinged me; I shouldn’t have written it off as a dumb though.
It’s not me but I humbly accept my punishment for being wrong. Don’t get excited and waste the day though because removing me is not the end you’re hoping for.
I want to say that him not voting on a day when Rask was in danger clears him but considering the fact that I clearly don’t understand what he would do this game I’m not 100% on that but I still think it’s likely he’s just town.
Didn’t like capes end if day posting when he was tied with Gira. Something just felt wrong there. I think that some of the interactions/ reads gira had on each other makes sense for partners. Thought him voting gira instead of me could have been distancing. I want to say though that gira voting cape after cape voted him is such a remedial scum tell that I don’t think he would do because it just makes them look partnered but again lolme at guaging what he will do as scum.
Didn’t like visor trying to claim he could only be scum with ender because of the bp thing when that’s objectively false.
It has crossed my mind already that I might have not been NKed last night exactly because I would obviously tunnel you.
But something something reverse psychology and if you were the last wolf I would kick myself if I second-guessed my read now.
Yeah, tbh I had suddenly 2 minutes of panic when thinking at what Ender was saying, then I reread Suibian's last posts about me and went 'oh ss!%? she is lining me up for tmr lmao, must switch vote really quick'.
'ok done. great it's still :00'
'nooooooooooo I didn't bold that vote'
'yesssss Visor just did lmao'
2 am duck dance on my sofa :D
I was going to vote you yesterday but the wagon disappeared.
Jokes on you that I would line up votes. That requires planning and I’m allergic to that planning in every area of life lol.
Ender - entirely possible I would leave you alive for that reason. I’ve done that before.
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 02:34
I was going to vote you yesterday but the wagon disappeared.
Jokes on you that I would line up votes. That requires planning and I’m allergic to that planning in every area of life lol.
sure.
You had questions for me yesterday?
Your read jumping all over the place didn’t feel quite real, but shrug. I’m of the mind that if he wasn’t going to try as scum, he’d at least vote to help keep you from being limmed day two. I know I should not have faith in this because my entire read was based on what I think he’d do as scum and was wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong, but I have a real problem thinking he’d keep his partner in jeopardy like that if he wasn’t willing to effort.
I do hope it’s cape in the end so I won’t feel like such an active detriment to the town though!
wheres your head at now suibian
I am afk saturday cause out of town
Ill play on Sunday
I think its cape but willing to hear people out, his reaction to being a wagon at eod was night and and day compared to his last game here where he was v and it felt like he had 0 urgency despite being fairly likely to die
Rask/suibian both have some rough posts wrt sleep but i like them more on posting than cape iyam, esp suibian (gonna re read a bit tho)
Votal 2.3
Rask (3) - Cape (#352 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850905&viewfull=1#post2053850905)), Ender (#431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850989&viewfull=1#post2053850989)), Wisdom (#475 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851036&viewfull=1#post2053851036))
Ender (2) - Sleep (#358 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850911&viewfull=1#post2053850911)), Rask (#412 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850969&viewfull=1#post2053850969))
Sleep (1) - Syn (#418 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850975&viewfull=1#post2053850975))
Wisdom (1) - Visor (#490 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851051&viewfull=1#post2053851051))
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eod2
ok im leaving for real now, probably not going to be at EOD tho if i'm lucky i might get back a few minutes before. prob should have considered my schedule before subbing in, sorry abt that.
wish i could be more help but think game is in a good place anyway, atm i'm kind of fine to go with the flow and let other people lead because i trust their instincts more than my own. unless someone wants me to sheep i'm just gonna not vote
unvote
Went back to make sure that earlier thought was a thing.
There was another vote placed on Rask in between these votes.
Does he just remove his vote from ender when his partner is a lead wagon and had been the previous day too? Really just want to say no. I truly hope no.
I am out and about
It isn't me
But I don't blame anyone who wants to vote me lol I played not so good
I do better when ppl are actually actively scummy and none of y'all are that at all
Uh I do not think it's Rask for the gesture of the last second switch even though it didn't count. But I don't think maf does that there
No idea who it could be, I don't know why the jump on Suibian
Anyways seeing a play so like cya all later
Oh and my busy work was kinda solving but my brain just couldn't say thoughts really I kinda wanted to just prod around for opinions on stuffs
K thx
I am afk saturday cause out of town
Ill play on Sunday
I think its cape but willing to hear people out, his reaction to being a wagon at eod was night and and day compared to his last game here where he was v and it felt like he had 0 urgency despite being fairly likely to die
Rask/suibian both have some rough posts wrt sleep but i like them more on posting than cape iyam, esp suibian (gonna re read a bit tho)
pretty much where I am at.
would explain a lot about the whole game.
Votal 2.3
Rask (3) - Cape (#352 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850905&viewfull=1#post2053850905)), Ender (#431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850989&viewfull=1#post2053850989)), Wisdom (#475 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851036&viewfull=1#post2053851036))
Ender (2) - Sleep (#358 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850911&viewfull=1#post2053850911)), Rask (#412 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850969&viewfull=1#post2053850969))
Sleep (1) - Syn (#418 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053850975&viewfull=1#post2053850975))
Wisdom (1) - Visor (#490 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851051&viewfull=1#post2053851051))
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eod2
ok im leaving for real now, probably not going to be at EOD tho if i'm lucky i might get back a few minutes before. prob should have considered my schedule before subbing in, sorry abt that.
wish i could be more help but think game is in a good place anyway, atm i'm kind of fine to go with the flow and let other people lead because i trust their instincts more than my own. unless someone wants me to sheep i'm just gonna not vote
unvote
wheres your head at now suibian
Not real sure. I was kinda hoping you’d die last night so I could avoid that little rabbit hole lol.
There’s a part of me that thinks if he played that way that his partner was not in the Poe and he trusted that they would take it home. But perhaps he was just busy and demotivated, and I shouldn’t read into things.
I hope it’s just cape, but I don’t trust me.
I am out and about
It isn't me
But I don't blame anyone who wants to vote me lol I played not so good
K thx
I dont get this feeling at all tbh
You subbed in a tough spot and pushed a wolf. Why not played well (regardless of alignment really)?
like why? I agree with this read fwiw, I think Cape is getting more heat than he has never had this game and is increasing the workload as a response, but not in a towny way (because he goes back to mostly unrelevant things now). So why not just yeet a wolf toDay, and resolve sleep l8r (whom I am having an hard time thinking this is his scum game, + Suibian's posts etc..)
Tbh this post is worse than anything suibian posted wrt sleep
And why id kill rask before suibian if its somehow not cape
the only part about my poe that changed is that ladd and visor are fully locked in.
the only part about my poe that changed is that ladd and visor are fully locked in.
Yea i mean cape/rask/suibian def wins the game but Id prefer to end it today
Yea i mean cape/rask/suibian def wins the game but Id prefer to end it today
I have a somewhat problematic thought.
Talking game balance:
13-player Mountainous is a perfectly balanced game, right?
Let's say you add a 1-shot vig
How do you balance the wolfteam to make it work?
If you add a 1-shot vig and 1shot bp giver
How do you balance that?
Because both wolves so far have flipped goon.
Anyways enjoy your Saturday!
I have a somewhat problematic thought.
Talking game balance:
13-player Mountainous is a perfectly balanced game, right?
Let's say you add a 1-shot vig
How do you balance the wolfteam to make it work?
If you add a 1-shot vig and 1shot bp giver
How do you balance that?
Because both wolves so far have flipped goon.
Anyways enjoy your Saturday!
15er mountainous is generally considered balanced (so+2 vts)
With just a 1 shot vig and 1 shot bpv id honestly give the wolves just a weak pr (role cop) or nothing at all
15er mountainous is generally considered balanced (so+2 vts)
With just a 1 shot vig and 1 shot bpv id honestly give the wolves just a weak pr (role cop) or nothing at all
15 is balanced? nevermind then.
I grew up on the hard streets of Werewolf Village. But that very much removes the paranoia in my head.
I dont get this feeling at all tbh
You subbed in a tough spot and pushed a wolf. Why not played well (regardless of alignment really)?
I am usually a player who has strong opinions on game and I feel like I just kinda struggled this game getting into it tbh. And now I know the answer to that is a lot of the ppl who have been active talking were pretty much all town
I do not envy whoever the last mafia is. They are doing well whoever they are as I just have no idea honestly
Like visor is a more believable NK then Montmorency so I can think Ender/Visor aren't very tinfoilable actually
Also Ender was part of the reason why I voted Sleep though. But I would have pushed Sleep likely over anyone else that day anyways, even Rask.
pretty much where I am at.
would explain a lot about the whole game.
this is where i am at too, i think
Raskolnikov
11-04-2023, 16:58
I am at a wedding for most of the day so will most probably post tmr.
Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3. I actually voted sleep at eod because I thought she was scum so y.
I kinda agree with Ladd some of my posts about sleep and my progression on him kinda stinked but it is what it is and actually should be read more villa than anything else because whats the plan for wolf!me at this point heh. Tbh this is smh valid for Suibian D3 so I am willing to give her some space and will keep solving her and Cape whenever I have more time toDay. ToDay is not the time to look at a deepwolf possibility imo.
Anyway su l8r (drunk poasting for the lock clear baby, lettuce go :curtain:)
vote:cape
Visor gonna steal my credit for voting the last wolf first again smh
towniest to least towniest cape voters
Rask > Jan > Suibian (didn't like their hedginess on me EOD) > Sleep (obviously :p)
I'm kinda in a position to where I don't think it was a bus, if it was, well played
Vote: Suibian
Even though I think Sui has a lot of townpoints from how towny i have found some of their posts, no idea who they are other then Suibian in other news.
like Suibian EOD kept waffling on me and Sleep
I also respect Sleep's scum game, but I was also in a position of just finding everyone else pretty towny/null-towny
I think this game is fairly straight forward otherwise but fair warning to me being voted will only waste time, especially in a game where i dont think there is majority?
towniest to least towniest cape voters
Rask > Jan > Suibian (didn't like their hedginess on me EOD) > Sleep (obviously :p)
I'm kinda in a position to where I don't think it was a bus, if it was, well played
Vote: Suibian
Even though I think Sui has a lot of townpoints from how towny i have found some of their posts, no idea who they are other then Suibian in other news.
oh and I put rask over Jan because of Rask's attempted sleep vote at EOD that I just DO NOT think mafia would do at all
then again, the only unconfirmed on the sleep wagon to me is basically ladd who is also really towny
which leaves me with not a lot to even say
last thing
if you think that I just hard bus my mafia partner over Rask day 3, that's on you noobs
Votal 4.1
Suibian (3) - Rask (#1021 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851593&viewfull=1#post2053851593)), Ender (#1024 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851596&viewfull=1#post2053851596)), Cape (#1064 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851636&viewfull=1#post2053851636))
Cape (2) - Visor (#1061 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851633&viewfull=1#post2053851633)) ladd (#1063 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851635&viewfull=1#post2053851635))
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eod3
Vote: sleep
(buying what Ender is saying)
If you were buying what ender was selling, why did it take you that long to jump on sleep?
Today was attack on titan day so no mafia.
Though I’m not real sure there is much to do.
I hope it’s as easy as it’s cape, but I’m not convinced.
Rask’s change of reads don’t feel quite real and the change on me felt a bit opportunistic, but his opening vote on me felt a bit like he really thinks the game is over after limming me. There’s a bit of fire in his tone towards me that I haven’t seen all game, and I don’t want to believe gira wouldn’t vote him on the day he was in trouble, but yesterday he did vote cape when he could have voted Rask instead.
Yeah I just hope it’s one of those. I’m not gonna spin my wheels though.
last thing
if you think that I just hard bus my mafia partner over Rask day 3, that's on you noobs
I don't think you hard pushed him yesterday, but even so bussing was probably the smart thing to do yesterday.
I think sleeps death was always happening and if the wolf cared about winning they would at least try to get something from the death.
I am not certain if that something is putting on a show like Rask is doing today or simply placing a correct vote and praying for cred.
But unless you believe the Wolfteam to have given up complety by yesterday some sort of gain must have come from this.
Which is why I don't think Sui is a wolf unless the Wolfteam has silently conceded.
You can bring up levels of wifom here but I believe this to be a rather simple matter.
I think sleeps death was always happening and if the wolf cared about winning they would at least try to get something from the death.
I am not certain if that something is putting on a show like Rask is doing today or simply placing a correct vote and praying for cred.
But unless you believe the Wolfteam to have given up complety by yesterday some sort of gain must have come from this.
Which is why I don't think Sui is a wolf unless the Wolfteam has silently conceded.
You can bring up levels of wifom here but I believe this to be a rather simple matter.
Yea i dont really think suibian is a wolf
Their target yesterday for "pushing" wa visor..that was obv never gonna happen
Rask tried to push you which is a more believable push from a wolf who wants to open up the PoE
Or its just cape who "bussed" (he voted sleep at SoD, those are the most common w/w votes cause you distance early then give yourself the whole day to change your mind)
Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3.
What specifucally did you like about visor case?
I think cape posted well since he subbed in to be clear but:
- the posts i find villagery from him are mostly the posts immediately after he subbed in and those are easy to fake. He also has a couple of p bad posts (yday eod, post about ender)
- suibian is the most villagery for me posting wise among rask/cape/suibian. Their eod yesterday wasnt great tho i agree with that
- rask has some really villagery posting but also some really bad stuff (+syn read there). Personally i think they are a villager after all cause of the good stuff but ymmv and they are def 1 of the 3 kills
- lastly, sleep+2 afk slots just makes the game have more sense than any other team for how d1 played out
I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.
Why torn if you were clearly leaning cape wolf over sleep?
Re read a bit of d3
Think sui/rask are villas and cape is the wolf, i wont elaborate cause i am lazy
See you close to eod
Sui still my strongest v read among those 3
When sleep talked about them it felt very pocket-y and suibian has a looooot of villagery thoughts
Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3. I actually voted sleep at eod because I thought she was scum so y.
Why did you think she was a wolf at eod?
Ender read was just based on sleep being a wolf afaict no?
You had suibian has like your top villa before eod
Why did you think she was a wolf at eod?
Ender read was just based on sleep being a wolf afaict no?
You had suibian has like your top villa before eod
As*
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 09:52
What specifucally did you like about visor case?
That the read was 100% the opposite of mine (I was considering Suibian the least probable bus earlier D3). It was to be considered since he is villa :shrug:
Just it added up with what Ender was saying at EOD, and what Suibian was pushing me for at EOD too.
Suibian: there isnt more than that really. Was chilling and started rethinking my vote after Enders last posts. It was more a panic feel I was maybe wrong in that tie voting Cape than anything else.
Gotta say i am leaning toward a Cape vote rn maybe. Purely because it feels like wolf!Suibian just played wifom and I dont feel like it.
Ill drive 5 hours and think about it friendos. Then prolly reread D3 and cast a vote.
Su
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 09:56
Not top villa Ladd, i have no time rn because i gotta go but will reply to it mid afternoon for you roughly. Check my iso though, guess u can see I ve been probbing her the whole D3 (will bring quotes l8r, really no time)
Alrighty thx for the answer
My doubt is more -
Suibian was pushing ~the same things as you at eod (sleep v, cape w) so i dont really get the face heel turn on them from your pov
slow day, guess everyone has been enjoying the weekend
don't really have a lot to add today
slow day, guess everyone has been enjoying the weekend
don't really have a lot to add today
How d you order cape/rask/sui?
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Votal 4.2
Suibian (3) - Rask (#1021 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851593&viewfull=1#post2053851593)), Ender (#1024 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851596&viewfull=1#post2053851596)), Cape (#1064 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851636&viewfull=1#post2053851636))
Cape (2) - Visor (#1061 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851633&viewfull=1#post2053851633)) ladd (#1063 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851635&viewfull=1#post2053851635))
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eod3
slow day, guess everyone has been enjoying the weekend
don't really have a lot to add today
You could just act like it is 5 minutes before eod and see what happens.
How d you order cape/rask/sui?
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probably in that order?
i think i am fine just killing cape and if we're wrong figure it out from there
not sure if rasks actions really make sense given his team, sui defending sleep so much is interesting, if only because it provides a counter to the barto argument
probably in that order?
i think i am fine just killing cape and if we're wrong figure it out from there
not sure if rasks actions really make sense given his team, sui defending sleep so much is interesting, if only because it provides a counter to the barto argument
ya i dunno, i dont really see rask as a wolf either
I am a bit confused why suibian felt so strongly about sleep being a villager given they have apparentely historically been paranaoid of them and sleep was objectively underwhelming. So of all games to not be paranoid of sleep, this sure is an interesting one
but most likely its just cape shrug.jpg
imo sleep play this game is the kind of play where its more likely villagers fall for the "would they really post like this as a wolf" logic and get paranoid about them actually being a wolf while the wolf knows they are a wolf so doesnt give them the benefit of the doubt
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ya i dunno, i dont really see rask as a wolf either
I am a bit confused why suibian felt so strongly about sleep being a villager given they have apparentely historically been paranaoid of them and sleep was objectively underwhelming. So of all games to not be paranoid of sleep, this sure is an interesting one
but most likely its just cape shrug.jpg
yeah it doesn't really make sense to me why they defended sleep (as either alignment tbh), (i guess as a villager they genuinely believed they wouldn't play a lower effort game as a wolf, as a wolf they did it to stand out as obv not aligned (ii.e. why would you do that as a wolf in that situation when you bussed barto))
imo sleep play this game is the kind of play where its more likely villagers fall for the "would they really post like this as a wolf" logic and get paranoid about them actually being a wolf while the wolf knows they are a wolf so doesnt give them the benefit of the doubt
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yeah thats fair
though i do think most people just wolfread sleep anyway
I wouldn't sleepwalk into killing rask or sui if we are wrong today, worth being cautious about the wolf knowing two afk teammates
EnderWiggin
11-05-2023, 14:58
I agree Visor.
We should walk into killing Sui today =P
EnderWiggin
11-05-2023, 15:04
Jokes aside I don't really have much energy for this game this weekend. Been at family's today.
Also just want to kill Sui and think that ends the game.
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 16:37
COming back to your earlier post Ladd, hopefully it will help you solving me:
contrary to what you said Suibian wasn't my top villa read as you make it sound, I was rather trying to gauge for deep wolf possibility most of D3 (first Jan, later Suibian). Because as stated that day with a consensus POE of Sleep/Cape/me, I knew there would be one if it wasn't exactly Sleep/Cape (and if I count this right, 3MLs looses us the game, so since I am villa, I was trying to solve outside that POE)
Fwiw Jan, these posts have nothing to do with yours. Because it doesn't work like this. I don't have to meet your expectations about what is a villager. If you are one, it's your job to find me. But I am more and more convinced you aren't one anyway so moot point I guess.
like
has prolly been decided a long time ago.
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One thing I wanna say before backreading is that I didn't like Suibian reaction to Visor push. I can certainly relate since I have been sussed since game start and it's really annoying but iirc, it was just the second time (anyone corrects me here if I am wrong) someone dared to say Suibian might not be a villager and she eructed both times. Not sure that's AI, because I don't know her and it could be a lot of things, but felt like mentionning it. (because both time it was noticable).
This is me posting about a ping I had about SUibian that noone talked about. Trying to get reactions.
Might as well
Vote: Jan
(Visor, I am considering your posts about Suibian. It's just so different from what I'd do as a wolf in that case, dunno. like I would hope for a no-show to gym up D2, rather than bus them D1... to me it's just the less probable bus from Tak wagon but I will certainly consider it)
This is me stating my position on the slot at the time (I had already made a post about it since I checked that EOD1 to see if what SUibian was saying - ie Jan convinced her Wisdom wasn't a good vote D1 - was real, since I wasn't around for EOD1). I specifically said that I'd consider Visor's read because I trust him as a good villager (might be my mistake tbh :curtain:)
What's your current read on Suibian? NGL the bold part made me giggle.
This is me probbing Cape about a potential partner (literraly asking for spew, not in a very subtile way I concede)
Found this. Iirc the only mention about Ladd before that was that he had not posted many AI things. So potential TMI?
Suibian: it feels like you have played a lot with Sleep before (I can't remember myself, maybe a game or two, a turbo? so I don't have actual meta)? What kind of wolf is he?
Me calling out sleep on a mistake he made. Same, probbing Suibian for partnership equity.
Which switch are you talking about? I know it's not the time for lenghty posts but I can still provide pointers if you ask for them? I do tend to avoid posting all the things that go in my head. For the best, trust me.
This is me getting pinged by the very sudden suspicion from Suibian one hour before EOD (like why now? how the things she is saying makes me a wolf??? it's actually the opposite smh, it's very townie to be a chaotic agent readwise, simply because you don't plan them, you don't build them in a reasonable way like you would be tempted to do fakesolving as a wolf, you just have them processing what you are reading)
If you obviously seem to think Cape is more sus than Sleep...
Why aren't you willing to vote that?
Don't want to too overtly defend your buddy?
This is Ender's post that was the catallyst of my (unvalid) vote switch. All the stuff that I had in mind suddenly went in order, and SUibian/SLeep was then the most sensible world there was for me at this time, so I tryed to flip wagons.
All this to say SUibian has been an ongoing solving for most of that EOD, and wasn't certainly a top villa read to start with.
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Now that this has been said, I have found nothing to clear Cape either, as I have stated most of D3. I will be rereading it now to make my mind about this dome.
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I agree with Visor though, with 2 MLs allowed and only 2, if we fail today, tmr should be reevalution day, not just going through the current POE. Let's hope we nail the final wolf today though. :bow:
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 16:38
whoa wolfy wallpost :curtain:
Why torn if you were clearly leaning cape wolf over sleep?
As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.
In the midst of me considering that maybe it would be better game wise to vote him, cape was posting so weirdly. While I did think he was more likely to be scum, he did have some townie sounding posts, which was also fueling my “maybe I should go ahead and vote gira” thoughts. I wondered if he was scum against town or partner and didn’t know what to do so was throwing a bunch of posts to make it look like he was doing something. I didn’t know what to make of it and it made a mess of what I was trying to decide there.
As far as why I lacked paranoia on him this game? I have been able to get to a mostly town read on him based on his thoughts and reads before. And my paranoia on him stems from how capable I consider him to be as scum. The games that I’ve gotten paranoid of him isn’t because he looks scummy for the most part. It stems from me thinking I’m being snowed. The game I had an innocent on him and thought he could be a godfather stemmed in part from a jackass who fake claimed masons with scum and a push that I thought could be scum motivated. So my paranoia is usually when he’s playing well and I worry he’s going deep. Here it was all because I know he can play well as scum that I thought even if busy, he’d be able to make minimal effort as scum that would help his team. And I think when you are super busy like that it’s almost easier to be scum because you can just make shit up instead of have to actually think. So I thought he’d feel an obligation to his team to help in some way rather than what he was doing here. While I was not paranoid of him this game, I did consider that my reasoning for the read wasn’t great since it was based on how I thought he wouldn’t behave as scum which is always dangerous.
Whoa that was longer than I thought. It’s a mass inside my head lol
Rask while it is townie to change your reads; it doesn’t mean all read changes are townie especially when they don’t read like real changes.
alrighty thx to both for the answers
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Not sure ill be able to check back in
Go with god
Adieu
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 20:56
Vote: Cape
Raskolnikov
11-05-2023, 21:08
Partly because I just read that and partly because Sleep/Suibian would have just wifomed D3, so meh
idk
if i'm being honest i saw ender opening the day with casing me and got annoyed because i'm sick of getting tunneled for nonsense in every game, worst part is that hes almost certainly town doing it given the claims. i just dont have the stamina to argue with people like that anymore.
and given that, means syn/ender/you all town
does not change a lot for me - i still think suiban is likely to be town, have not head reason to suspect this is not her town game and dont think she has this much energy as scum esp. after not drawing it in forver. maybe im getting owned but if i am o well
i didn't like cape's posting at EOD - it felt posture-y in terms of how he seemed to setting up future votes with what he was saying
dunno feels increasingly probable that someone bussed barto - that's just kind of the feeling i get from how the game is going
furthermore, Syn's nk makes me think it was designed to frame me, and I see it much more as a Cape play smh. Throw in the fact most of the roster also thinks it's Cape, might as well listen to the good people. (I mean, they know how to do it, outside Visor and maybe Ladd)
nah, I just want to be able to say I voted a wolf all days but D1 :philosoraptor:
Votal 4.3
Cape (4) - Visor (#1061 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851633&viewfull=1#post2053851633)) ladd (#1063 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851635&viewfull=1#post2053851635)), Suibian (#1104 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851680&viewfull=1#post2053851680)), Rask (#1107 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851683&viewfull=1#post2053851683))
Suibian (2) - Ender (#1024 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851596&viewfull=1#post2053851596)), Cape (#1064 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851636&viewfull=1#post2053851636))
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eod4
fall back made me think I had more time
well I will be here in the meantime, not sure doing "what?"
i think you go like Sui > Jan > ladd and leave rask alone when i die?
ugh sui doesn't even feel like a "good kill" here
As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.
In the midst of me considering that maybe it would be better game wise to vote him, cape was posting so weirdly. While I did think he was more likely to be scum, he did have some townie sounding posts, which was also fueling my “maybe I should go ahead and vote gira” thoughts. I wondered if he was scum against town or partner and didn’t know what to do so was throwing a bunch of posts to make it look like he was doing something. I didn’t know what to make of it and it made a mess of what I was trying to decide there.
As far as why I lacked paranoia on him this game? I have been able to get to a mostly town read on him based on his thoughts and reads before. And my paranoia on him stems from how capable I consider him to be as scum. The games that I’ve gotten paranoid of him isn’t because he looks scummy for the most part. It stems from me thinking I’m being snowed. The game I had an innocent on him and thought he could be a godfather stemmed in part from a jackass who fake claimed masons with scum and a push that I thought could be scum motivated. So my paranoia is usually when he’s playing well and I worry he’s going deep. Here it was all because I know he can play well as scum that I thought even if busy, he’d be able to make minimal effort as scum that would help his team. And I think when you are super busy like that it’s almost easier to be scum because you can just make shit up instead of have to actually think. So I thought he’d feel an obligation to his team to help in some way rather than what he was doing here. While I was not paranoid of him this game, I did consider that my reasoning for the read wasn’t great since it was based on how I thought he wouldn’t behave as scum which is always dangerous.
i kinda like this post
but also kinda do not like it at all
Vote: Jan
well I dislike ur posting today so uh die
i would probably go Jan before Sui thinking just about who technically has more town points
anyways this is where i go get chili and if nobody shows up... idk maybe i will just kinda casually read Jan's logs like a book and preflip him because that's cool and not lame
Sleep (3) - Cape (#736 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851299&viewfull=1#post2053851299)), Ender (#777 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851340&viewfull=1#post2053851340)), Ladd
Rask (2) - Syn (#721 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851284&viewfull=1#post2053851284)), Jan
Cape (1) - Sleep, Visor
Jan (1) - Rask
I think that is correct?
a pretty darning VC for u pal
Going Rask over me because u wanted to set up a me elimination for later and go for the rask miscondemn
how poggers
i will say Rask saying the Syn NK is just an NK to frame HIM is wolfy but i will let that slide because im confbiasing myself into beleiving Rask's vote last second EOD vote on Sleep is town motivated
Partly because I just read that and partly because Sleep/Suibian would have just wifomed D3, so meh
furthermore, Syn's nk makes me think it was designed to frame me, and I see it much more as a Cape play smh. Throw in the fact most of the roster also thinks it's Cape, might as well listen to the good people. (I mean, they know how to do it, outside Visor and maybe Ladd)
nah, I just want to be able to say I voted a wolf all days but D1 :philosoraptor:
bonk if u dont beleive me
also that post is far better then anything Jan has done today
my dude is COAST CITY
outside of tying the wolfwagon at eod - from the top of your head what did visor do that was memorable?
All this setup on trying to get all of us to tinfoil Visor
EnderWiggin can you believe this man, or should I say this Jan?
Nah. I went into the day thinking sleep is likely the kill today.
I opened up to killing you around the time when I asked the people wolf-reading you on how sure they are.
When Syn made the post I decided to follow because your play today felt fake and when Sui asked about why I decided to sum my feelings up.
*shrug*
wolfy post also m'lord
If I was a villager with traction d1 and as counterwagon d2 then I would be more alarmed and up in arms than Rask is.
These posts happened only after I made this post:
To me that change in perspective without actually feeling like somebody panicking and more like somebody doing what is expected does not add up.
And that could easily be a language barrier thing because rask and I are both not native (based on tasks country in the profile), but it rubbed me the wrong way tbh.
im noticing how you are all of the sudden in the "not trying" zone today and I know you are gonna try to set up Rask tomorrow, you better say something like "oh i knew cape was town, we really should have gotten Rask back there I made all these cases on him they were so good"
But you dont really care about your cases do you?
You haven't signal boosted them after all, not today. You don't care as long as a townie dies and between me and Suibian, who cares amirite?
I encourage the rest of town to look at Suibian again and read their long posts
im sorry they ooze too much town for me to ignore
i dont care how bad their EOD looks to you, IM THE KING OF BAD EODS AS TOWN.
And as cringe as it was for Suibian to take that crown away from me, I still had a bad EOD :p
My favorite old-school read on me is that I am funny as a villager and more forced as a wolf.
I have fooled that one before but I am always amused by it.
hmm
u haven't made me laugh this game
EN GAURDE :duel:
I am afraid that this game which feels competent and mostly fun will be a buzzkill because we find out the wolf-team basically didn't play d1.
Bart
sleep
cape
team would be heartbreaking in that regard.
sleep and cape did a good job afterwards tbh.
Visor
EnderWiggin
Syn
Suibian
Ladd
Raskolnikov
Cape90
Sleep
Is where I am at.
Sleep and Cape have good toan going for them, but that is more based on playstyle than anything else.
Hard to see the difference between not really into it villa and wolf in a corner that has mostly given up in Sleeps behavior.
If the bottom 3 do not include 2 wolves then either mech is wrong (which I don't think is true) or there is an actual deep wolf.
I think if ladd is a wolf he is mostly forced to push me into the poe slowly but surely because he just loses a f3 with tammy and myself.
But he doubled down on me as villa today.
I am kind of sad that I didn't see rask panic more about yesterday being v/v wagons with little momentum to change.
That would have been my perspective as v in that position. Both of them voted off wagon and the only person who was not involved in the two main wagons is Taffy.
you are the same person who tried to put a lot of sus on Visor and yet here he's ur top town
how do u plead?
Oof. I kind of thought we had one more hour last EoD. Euros changed clocks last weekend and ofc I didn't factor that in.
Vt flip is not surprising but makes me feel better about the other claims.
you were talking earlier about JOAT though like u believed the claim
i guess i will just leave it there, I don't have any more hot button hits on Jan rly, he played well but he's the defeatist wolf
as you will see I am VT, I wouldn't be doing this, no matter how bad ur finding my postings rn
Last second I will probably will switch to Suibian on the off chance that me and Sui tie/Sui gets majority or something and the off off chance that I am wrong and Suibian was really the wolf all along, I dont think Jan will happen obviously since i am talking to myself, but my legacy is wanting Jan dead
Ugh but Rask is tinfoilable with Syn dead, but also I think wolves might have just killed Syn on virtue of being PR/probably not going to be protected by EnderWiggin, not gonna be voted out
yknow a combination of those things
Like Rask thinking the NK was to frame him when I have hard defended him before that post is extremely silly in the world where Rask also thinks I am wolf
y'know it's funny that i think flavor claiming was supposed to be a whole part of this game, but like, nobody has cared to bring it up, I mean wolves literally have fake ones so it becomes extremely pointless to flavor claim anyways tbh
I find myself agreeing with all of ladds words while not feeling like he added a lot new to the game. (basically only the el barto meta)
Makes me think I am good at ww or being pocketed.
Fine with either tbh.
Or we just both suck.
this post is worth thinking about i think
Honestly? Fair.
I have a perception of you in my head that makes me think you're less afraid and more free-flowing/careless as a villa compared to a wolf.
I can't say for certain if that is true, but my heart says yes, and my head can't be trusted this week.
Objectively you haven't done anything thus far to lock you in. But my vibes read on you is enough for a townlean.
check Jan's involvement to Wisdom dying
i recall this not being a good look in retrospect, like check his day 2 wisdom push when that happened
Thanks a lot. I don't really feel like I have a strong stance at this moment.
Inclined to kill a low-hanging fruit because a quarter of the game is not really playing so far.
And I don't have a confident wolfread.
This is not fun, but keeping dead slots around is also not a real option. (Plus I likely won't make EoD)
i mean i have been on this page most of the game but
insert wolftell here
Mashes are just there to phone it in while you chat with friends.
I think my last normal game was the thing earlier this year and Wiggles Breaking Bad anon game the year before.
(But if you ppl want to play some blood on the Clocktower I am always down to clown).
Anyway I am not certain how I would play this game as wolf. My play normally is dictated a lot more by my mood but I tend to get exhausted in mashes as a wolf.
convo with sleep, check it out, think it's NAI personally but its here
Vote: Suibian
on the off chance
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Cape (4) - Visor (#1061 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851633&viewfull=1#post2053851633)) ladd (#1063 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851635&viewfull=1#post2053851635)), Suibian (#1104 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851680&viewfull=1#post2053851680)), Rask (#1107 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851683&viewfull=1#post2053851683))
Suibian (2) - Ender (#1024 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851596&viewfull=1#post2053851596)), Cape (#1132 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851708&viewfull=1#post2053851708))
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Cape90 has been yeeted. They were:
Vanilla cereal, in the form of:
Special K
Sometimes, you look at your reflection (not in the mirror—in a pool of streetside water, or in a pane of glass with curtains behind to conceal the fluorescent interior, or in the hazy adumbrations of the monitor during a loading screen or when the credits roll) and wonder how alike you really are to: that someone who walked past you in the rain just now, the disembodied slippers you can see pacing back and forth beneath the curtain, that actor, whatstheirname, the one who was always overacting. Your ruminations are interrupted when the accountant enters the room and looks at you through their officious glasses. They are here to inform you that you are quite different; the algorithm has identified a number of profitable demographics who would find you attractive but who would never find, say, corn flakes attractive. You are to be combined sometimes with this or that fruit, sometimes with this or that nut, and so on, according to the order of things. You feel relieved, knowing you are special K. You were never one for reflection, anyway.
::)::
You’ve always been afraid of death. Please don’t kill me, you whisper prayerfully to the night, but you know it ignores you. Sometimes a strange longing takes you, and for a moment you believe you’re about to meet your end. “Aquí está,” you say out loud. “Los asesinos en cereales me llevan.”
One day, as the rising sun peeks through your huddled cardboard covers, you have an epiphany, or at least a thought. “Soy le defensore de les despoetices,” you proclaim convincingly. “Y nadie puede silenciarme. ¡Adelante, mi arma es mi voz!” You emerge from your dusty fortress into the dawnlit lands and set out ayonder with tongue in hand. You may be a little bland, but you certainly have an appetite.
You win when all threats to cereal have been eaten.
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Visor died! They were:
Vanilla cereal, in the form of:
Cheerios
Calcium carbonate, cobalamin, colecalciferol, corn starch, folic acid, hydrochloride, iron, mixed tocopherols, niacinamide, pyridoxine palmitate, salt, sodium ascorbate, sugar, thiamin mononitrate, tripotassium phosphate, whole grain oats, zinc, in no particular order. You are milled, cleaned, dried, mixed, cooked, dried again, cooked again, and eventually at some point you find your way into a plastic bag and a cardboard box labeled “Cheerios.”
::)::
You’ve always been afraid of death. Please don’t kill me, you whisper prayerfully to the night, but you know it ignores you. Sometimes a strange longing takes you, and for a moment you believe you’re about to meet your end. “Aquí está,” you say out loud. “Los asesinos en cereales me llevan.”
One day, as the rising sun peeks through your huddled cardboard covers, you have an epiphany, or at least a thought. “Soy le defensore de les despoetices,” you proclaim convincingly. “Y nadie puede silenciarme. ¡Adelante, mi arma es mi voz!” You emerge from your dusty fortress into the dawnlit lands and set out ayonder with tongue in hand. You may be a little bland, but you certainly have an appetite.
You win when all threats to cereal have been eaten.
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Raskolnikov
ladd
EnderWiggin
Jan
Suibian
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Ahem
You guys are not allowed to kill the person I spent the night tinfoiling as scum. It makes me look bad.
Ahem
You guys are not allowed to kill the person I spent the night tinfoiling as scum. It makes me look bad.
Visor was never the tinfoil wolf at this point, tbh.
Waking up to read cape running in a tunnel never to return alive was kind of annoying.
Just frustrating when you can't mock somebody for being an idiot while they are alive.
Heh, but my tinfoiling knows no bounds or reason.
I feel bad that cape went out alone like that. I missed eod because I didn’t realize the time change meant deadline was an hour earlier.
Heh, but my tinfoiling knows no bounds or reason.
I feel bad that cape went out alone like that. I missed eod because I didn’t realize the time change meant deadline was an hour earlier.
I just had an annoying day and there was not a lot of importance to yesterday's actions.
I need ladd to make sure my tinfoil is just tinfoil at one point today.
I just had an annoying day and there was not a lot of importance to yesterday's actions.
I need ladd to make sure my tinfoil is just tinfoil at one point today.
Wait .. I don't think my tinfoil makes any reasonable sense.
I was afraid for a while Ender could simply be a wolf blacksmith and that would be the wolf power in the game..
But I don't think they would vest visor and shoot him the same night.
Vesting a villa for cred is fine. It is basically the reason he has been allowed to live this long.
(they claimed it d2 because they had enough heat to be in some danger)
But I don't think you use the kp that night on the person you vest just because you want to have a chance of hitting one of your pr reads.
Yeah whatever that is not really a play I see happening.
Wait .. I don't think my tinfoil makes any reasonable sense.
I was afraid for a while Ender could simply be a wolf blacksmith and that would be the wolf power in the game..
But I don't think they would vest visor and shoot him the same night.
Vesting a villa for cred is fine. It is basically the reason he has been allowed to live this long.
(they claimed it d2 because they had enough heat to be in some danger)
But I don't think you use the kp that night on the person you vest just because you want to have a chance of hitting one of your pr reads.
Yeah whatever that is not really a play I see happening.
Just this lingering feeling I had ever since taffy died n3 instead of ender and him simply not dying.
But this should be fine.
I’ve considered that tinfoil too and while I do think it’s possible for scum to give a vest and waste it for this argument specifically, I’m having a hard time accepting the possibility that the only town power we have was a one-shot vig and that the healing power was just given to scum. It feels like it removes some of the agency of town to protect itself. If you subscribe to the theory that the doc exists to protect power then it makes sense that he’s just town.
(There is little voice inside my head that is reminding me of the couple mods I’ve played under in the past who’ve specifically done things like this to give scum away to mechanically clear themselves, and the only way to win these games was to forget role info, but those always had more power roles than the bare minimum. And that little voice is also reminding me my reasoning has been hot garbage this game, so maybe I shouldn’t listen, but it feels right.)
Sap, will be more sparse today cause i am back to work
Ya i really really doubt ender is a wolf. Him and visor were both equally cleared atp so killing visor first is ok
Not worth considering
I am gonna be real, ill prob gonna consider everyone today (except ender) so the more villagery you guis can be, the better :p
Cause so far the last wolf has basically been playing an sk game and in these type of games finding the last 1 can be tricky
(I already have an idea but will wait at least 24 hours)
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EnderWiggin
11-07-2023, 11:15
Huh.
EnderWiggin
11-07-2023, 11:54
This probably means Sui isn't wolf. Sui as wolf has no loss by killing me and doesn't implicate them and it removes their biggest pusher.
Visor is a better kill for any other wolf who is hoping I'm going to get stuck in my tunnel.
I don't think if Ladd was a wolf the game would play out this way.
I think if Ladd was in wolfchat with nebjiamn/Sleep then sleep would be more active because even on d2 an active Gira can get out of the poe if need be.
It is why I said yesterday that Ladd/Visor are full clearned to me because that applies to both of them to some extend.
Not sure if this reason will help anybody else to get a further read on Ladd.
This probably means Sui isn't wolf. Sui as wolf has no loss by killing me and doesn't implicate them and it removes their biggest pusher.
Visor is a better kill for any other wolf who is hoping I'm going to get stuck in my tunnel.
Level 1 yes.
I don't think I would leave you alive either tbh, because I don't really know you and I know visor and when given the choice I keep the person around that I can make fun off.
But I am weird and old and care less about winning than well-being.
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 14:36
I won't be considering Ender (like never).
v
Ladd
Suibian/Jan
w
I think Ladd has been more villagery and solving than Jan and Suibian. I will start rereading these slots first. (also Sleep's post mentionning them)
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 14:54
This probably means Sui isn't wolf. Sui as wolf has no loss by killing me and doesn't implicate them and it removes their biggest pusher.
Visor is a better kill for any other wolf who is hoping I'm going to get stuck in my tunnel.
tbh I think Visor could have had reasons to go after Sui (or me :curtain:) after Cape's flip (remember his D3) so I agree with Jan here, don't remove her from the POE for that kind of reason. (well do it if u wanna, but u have been warned :p )
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 15:12
what are you seeing with syn that i'm not
tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town
This is the only mention of Jan in Sleep's ISO fwiw.
There are a lot of back n forth with Suibian which don't feel ww to me but I'd like to be second guessed about this.
(conclusion: with the way this game has played out, I do think this makes it more likely for Jan to be the last scum over Suibian)
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 15:25
Ladd/Sleep:
3 posts mentionning Ladd in Sleep's ISO.
ladd basically feels like himself i don't think anything he's posted is super alignment indicative so far
my memory of tammy as mafia was mostly her rolling over and dying but this was over a decade ago now (i will never stop trolling her about this)
don't think she'd be the type to bus but hard to defend a person who barely posted anything. i have played with her more recently than anyone here and think she's just town though
if someone bussed i'm not gonna be able to find them today and every time i try to do something like that it ends up being a throw
vote: ender
sheeping ladd tbh
I do think this one is a good one for Ladd. Because it feels like Sleep actually forgot he had not mentionned Ladd previously so is TMIing Ladd's alignment. (like I feel he would be more cautious for a read about a partner).
-kind of concerned by cape initially townreading me then angling toward potentially voting me when i've been absent and laddsuggests me as a ossibility
- i think ladd's POE in #455 is basically fine tbh and where i was at, I have a slight concern over cape but that's only a 5th name anyway and i think this game is probably just an easy one for town hopefully
-wisdom's progression still not doing much for me altho i'm not sure what wisdom COULD post at this point that would make me townread her. i get why people backed off but it kind of reads like generic emotional appeal stuff which feels a little scummy
- don't have real thoughts on rask's most recwent pots right now, need to re-look at them later because everything is blurring together in my head at this point
unfortunately my schedule is also not great for this game and i have only a couple more hours i can be here, then i'm gone and won't be present for EOD. will try to get in what i can in that time if anyone has stuff they want to ask me do it now
this line from sleep about ladd's POE makes me double-down on Ender because Sleep was prolly aware at this point in the game that one wolf had to go deep because he wasn't end-gaming himself. So I don't see him +1ing a list with all the alive wolves POEed
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 15:28
tl;dr: Sleep's spews makes me think it's just Jan.
Now I am actually wondering at which point in this game Sleep gave up. ie at which point he just played with spew in mind to actually mess up late solving. Prolly SOD2?
hmm
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 15:36
l8r for another go at Jan's or Sui's ISO.
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Visor damn you btw. I have been coming back to the context of that el Barto vote from Suibian lately and I just don't think she would bus like that. It's not even done in a way she can claim cred out of it and clear herself. It just felt unnecesarry to me. though I am still considering it because u did lol.
actually I will just reread D1 because it feels to me that bus of el mighty Takhisis (el barto) and the context around it is the key. :study:
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 15:40
will be considering elbarto and sleep treatment in my next ISOs too, just so many things to do rn lmao. and that baobab in my hand.
I don't think if Ladd was a wolf the game would play out this way.
I think if Ladd was in wolfchat with nebjiamn/Sleep then sleep would be more active because even on d2 an active Gira can get out of the poe if need be.
It is why I said yesterday that Ladd/Visor are full clearned to me because that applies to both of them to some extend.
Not sure if this reason will help anybody else to get a further read on Ladd.
Hrm. Ladd is actually the person whose read I want to revisit the most.
I don’t really agree with the reasoning here though because if gira was just busy and couldn’t play then he wouldn’t be able to be more active regardless of his partners. I think it’s dangerous to say that he would be more busy if he just couldn’t be more busy. Is there something other than that that you think is clearing?
My thought is that his lack of vote on day two suggests that he was fine with the game state as is which would mean that his partner was not in the poe. I really want to clear Rask on this alone, but I don’t know if this is also dangerous if he’d just given up, but I also think it’d be somewhat cruel to do to your partner, unless your partner had also just given up, but Rask clearly hadn’t, so I want to believe in this. I just don’t know how much weight I should actually give it.
I guess there is the possibility that gira didn’t vote day two specifically for the wifom argument that if Rask had been elimmed that day he clearly couldn’t be partners since he did nothing to save him or get credit for the bus, but does that actually get him to endgame?
(I’m remembering a time that I had a partner do something similar to me, but he never posted or played at my homesite (rip) again. So it’s not impossible, but I think he was just intimidated and scared which I do not think fits gira.).
Anyway, I just don’t think it’s Jan.
For completion’s sake the only thing that I had a moment of pause with regard to Jan was the post talking about the hypothetical Lylo situation of me, Jan, Ladd. But that post can equally come from town trying to settle a read on Ladd, and there are so many other things that read town to me like trolling visor about the night one kill, the reaction today to cape’s tunnel last night, etc and overall play that I would be super surprised and a little heartbroken if Jan is scum here.
For people to lock me in some specific behavior that I don't think happens if I am a wolf.
If I am a wolf that plans to bus e l barto then I will try to get my partner on board unless you think it was a total accident.
Just no reason not to maximize on towncred for your team.
Even more important this does not happen if my play as a wolf is to bus my partners for cred:
EoD 3:
On the one hand cape is doing weird busywork right now.
Like judging visors villa read on ender after ender softed to visor that he gave him the vest.
On the other hand I want to resolve sleep.
like why? I agree with this read fwiw, I think Cape is getting more heat than he has never had this game and is increasing the workload as a response, but not in a towny way (because he goes back to mostly unrelevant things now). So why not just yeet a wolf toDay, and resolve sleep l8r (whom I am having an hard time thinking this is his scum game, + Suibian's posts etc..)
followed by me voting cape and leaving for the night.
Rask convinces me to vote cape instead of sleep at the time.
If I am a wolf and the poe for the next two days is always my partner and a random villa stuck in the poe then I am just sticking on my partner if given the choice.
There is simply no upside as a wolf to switch to cape.
(the counterargument is me making this statement as wolf to get cred for not bussing earlier, I guess. Not sure what the upside in that play is)
Hrm. Ladd is actually the person whose read I want to revisit the most.
I don’t really agree with the reasoning here though because if gira was just busy and couldn’t play then he wouldn’t be able to be more active regardless of his partners. I think it’s dangerous to say that he would be more busy if he just couldn’t be more busy. Is there something other than that that you think is clearing?
My thought is that his lack of vote on day two suggests that he was fine with the game state as is which would mean that his partner was not in the poe. I really want to clear Rask on this alone, but I don’t know if this is also dangerous if he’d just given up, but I also think it’d be somewhat cruel to do to your partner, unless your partner had also just given up, but Rask clearly hadn’t, so I want to believe in this. I just don’t know how much weight I should actually give it.
I am fairly certain that I will not be able to clear rask this game.
Jut because of syn having rask as lowest read all game and just not getting the traction for the kill.
Plus me really disliking rasks eod leading up to the sleep lunch (at the following sod).
I just can see a lot of reasons for this to be wolf motivated.
Rask was in the poe at the time, trying to get people to vote cape which tied up wagons.
He tried to snipe the sleep vote despite the whole day being rask vs cape.
And then playing up the sleep flip as a big party on the next day when there was no kill that mattered less this game.
And I am sorry if you are a villa rask, but that to me feels like a wolf trying to maximize on the switch on sleep.
If it is a runaway wagon you don't get any cred, but making the wagon close and knowing how Ender (and others) love meming/podracing might give you more cred. Which is what your next SoD felt like to me.
I just don't think as a villa in a tunnel you really swap when you did. you either get convinced earlier or not at all.
I'll be honest.
I have trouble not tunneling rask at the moment and if I am wrong then I am just clueless and I don't feel capable of looking anywhere else right now.
Sun’s absolute certainty that Rask was scum is one of the things that keeps me from going all in on my day two “why wouldn’t gira vote if Rask was scum” theory.
Raskolnikov
11-07-2023, 23:28
Ill address your points in like ten hours friendos.
(No energy rn and this deserves more than oneliners)
Ps: not sure u should put much stock into Syn wolfreading me because like, it happens a lot, when I am town. (Can provide exemples too)
Anyway Ill try to post before Ladd and Ender check in so they have the input too
Leaning towards Ladd.
I wasnt gonna post until closer to eod to give you guis space to post but like...how?
How do you think i am a wolf here, it seems absolutely absurd to me lol
So plz show me its a real thought and not something you just made up.
Did you read my posts? Cause i have an hard time thinking you read my posts and think i am a wolf
I wasnt gonna post until closer to eod to give you guis space to post but like...how?
How do you think i am a wolf here, it seems absolutely absurd to me lol
So plz show me its a real thought and not something you just made up.
Did you read my posts? Cause i have an hard time thinking you read my posts and think i am a wolf
I could tell you the why because it is really obvious. :P
Hrm. Ladd is actually the person whose read I want to revisit the most.
I don’t really agree with the reasoning here though because if gira was just busy and couldn’t play then he wouldn’t be able to be more active regardless of his partners. I think it’s dangerous to say that he would be more busy if he just couldn’t be more busy. Is there something other than that that you think is clearing?
My thought is that his lack of vote on day two suggests that he was fine with the game state as is which would mean that his partner was not in the poe. I really want to clear Rask on this alone, but I don’t know if this is also dangerous if he’d just given up, but I also think it’d be somewhat cruel to do to your partner, unless your partner had also just given up, but Rask clearly hadn’t, so I want to believe in this. I just don’t know how much weight I should actually give it.
When did you first have this thought?
Because your vote was the first to ping me and, NGL, the vote is on me so I look into it more than others obviously. (I am town pal, I am not going to be the D1)
Why did you say you’re not gonna be the day one here? Are you not normally a day one elim?
When did you first have this thought?
First? Before gira flipped. I think I talked about it as one of the only says I could see him being scum was with someone town read. Then after he flipped, and I thought about day 2 it felt possible. It’s one of the reasons I thought it could be visor.
If you’re gearing up to say it’s me I’m fine going today to clear the Poe.
I wasnt gonna post until closer to eod to give you guis space to post but like...how?
How do you think i am a wolf here, it seems absolutely absurd to me lol
So plz show me its a real thought and not something you just made up.
Did you read my posts? Cause i have an hard time thinking you read my posts and think i am a wolf
Have you read my posts today?
Why am I not allowed to consider you? I’m quite obviously town yet I’m in the Poe; why can’t I think it’s you?
(I realize you if you don’t know me, you wouldn’t know why I’m obviously town but the same stands for you.)
Sorry if that doesn’t make sense. I’m in bed and half asleep. I just was thinking about Rask and that post.
First? Before gira flipped. I think I talked about it as one of the only says I could see him being scum was with someone town read. Then after he flipped, and I thought about day 2 it felt possible. It’s one of the reasons I thought it could be visor.
If you’re gearing up to say it’s me I’m fine going today to clear the Poe.
Why now?
If you want to roll over and die you do it yesterday instead of voting cape.
But if you are villa rolling over at this point is not really an option.
Make my life miserable and make me regret ever doubting you, but at this point the only world where you should roll over is if you are 100% certain about the solve.
Sorry if that doesn’t make sense. I’m in bed and half asleep. I just was thinking about Rask and that post.
Sleep. we can talk when you wake up and I decide to take a nap. :X
Vote: Suibian
Nice frame frienda. GG WP :p
Gah.
The day prior you stated that you thought I was town because it wasn’t a bus, started doubting me because of visor’s case, were convinced here that the game ends with me, but today you’re back to thinking it wasn’t a bus though lightly considering visor’s earlier case.
This doesn’t feel quite right.
Was the frame you’re referring to here the night kill.
Why now?
If you want to roll over and die you do it yesterday instead of voting cape.
But if you are villa rolling over at this point is not really an option.
Make my life miserable and make me regret ever doubting you, but at this point the only world where you should roll over is if you are 100% certain about the solve.
I never said I was rolling over. I’m just fine going if it helps the Poe. And I was fine going yesterday too and said as much. I’m also low-key terrified of being stuck in lylo.
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Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 08:51
I just don't think as a villa in a tunnel you really swap when you did. you either get convinced earlier or not at all.
I suggest you read the posts I made for Ladd D4 because
- it's pretty clear I haven't been tunneling anyone D3 (like I voted you, I voted Cape, I voted Sleep)
- I have been very transparent about my motivations and what triggered the switch.
Furthermore it's not like anyone tryed to convince anyone that sleep was scum D3. Suibian defended him because I asked her about his wolf game. It's not like someone made a big case. Ender made some posts about potentiel ww equity between Suibian and Sleep but that's about it.
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Also it makes few sense to actually suggest I tryed to take credit of that flip. I guess if that was the plan I would at least have pushed for sleep D3 with some convincing posts casing him. I wouldn't have been all over the place doubting his alignment and exchanging with Subian, Visor, etc...
It just doesn't make sense friendo.
D4 was just me explaining what happened in my head since I was pretty sure some slots would scumread that move.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:01
Why did you say you’re not gonna be the day one here? Are you not normally a day one elim?
I am not, that's the thing lol. Not as a wolf. So especially not as a villager lmao.
Why are your asking this though? Are you bothered by anything?
Have you read my posts today?
Why am I not allowed to consider you? I’m quite obviously town yet I’m in the Poe; why can’t I think it’s you?
(I realize you if you don’t know me, you wouldn’t know why I’m obviously town but the same stands for you.)
I have but i dont see a reason (unless i missed it)
You are free to consiser me but when you come to the conclusion i am a wolf thats where i find it problematic cause
1) i have clearly shown all game i care about solving people and not just get mislunches
2) i have voted on both w wagons in close v/w wagons
3) sleep spewed me v
Fwiw i think you are the least likely wolf and have a post that should probably clear you
For me its between rask and jan
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:12
Gah.
The day prior you stated that you thought I was town because it wasn’t a bus, started doubting me because of visor’s case, were convinced here that the game ends with me, but today you’re back to thinking it wasn’t a bus though lightly considering visor’s earlier case.
This doesn’t feel quite right.
Was the frame you’re referring to here the night kill.
lmao I 100% think it's a bus Suibian. The only slot I am not considering is Ender.
I think the last wolf is between you/Jan/Ladd, who are all El Barto voters.
SO like ???
I am just not sure who it is so will be reading these 3 ISOs to make my mind.
Also imo I have made more posts than necesarry so you actually all see my process so it's really weird for me to read Jan's and your posts about this tbh. But dw, I will do all I can so people find me as a villager today.
PS: (about the NK, yes. I mean why kill Syn at this point lol. He has no bullets left so is a vanillager for all purposes. why would I kill him? He has been yeeling at the thread I am a wolf for 3 days and I have ended D3 with no votes. I mean no problem for wolf!me to keeep going and play a little. Nah, that kill makes me think someone wanted to use it for a push on me, hence why I posted that immediatly to mitigate the potential of a wolf push using that)
vote: Raskolnikov
Mostly to have some vote down and make Gemma happy or sad.
I don't know what exactly.
But Seeing empty votals is wrong.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:16
I have but i dont see a reason (unless i missed it)
You are free to consiser me but when you come to the conclusion i am a wolf thats where i find it problematic cause
1) i have clearly shown all game i care about solving people and not just get mislunches
2) i have voted on both w wagons in close v/w wagons
3) sleep spewed me v
Fwiw i think you are the least likely wolf and have a post that should probably clear you
For me its between rask and jan
1) i have clearly shown all game i care about solving people and not just get mislunches too
2) i have voted on one w wagons in close v/w wagons
3) I posted sleep spewed you v
I am town friendo
https://media.tenor.com/DKB4fw7EACwAAAAd/true-correct.gif
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:19
vote: Raskolnikov
Mostly to have some vote down and make Gemma happy or sad.
I don't know what exactly.
But Seeing empty votals is wrong.
I take the dome pal. Because you are prolly the last one. I mean you of all people toDay have shown the least willingness to reeval. Just want me dead.
Vote: Jan
I take the dome pal. Because you are prolly the last one. I mean you of all people toDay have shown the least willingness to reeval. Just want me dead.
Vote: Jan
You are not wrong?
If you are a villager then I am in a tunnel that I don't think I can overcome.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:27
I will be reading for a while
Ping me if u need anything.
Yeah. I have trouble celebrating kills like that.
ye it feels a little lame for whoever the last wolf is
i guess in a sense it makes it harder to catch them, but also takes out a lot of fun
I don't want to steal your thunder but you are basically celebrating stealing candy from a baby.
I legit went afk 30 minutes or so before the eod because I could not care less about who we kill and what the flip is in the end.
I love a challenge.
But masturbatory behavior after killing 2 wolves who basically didn't play?
I pitty the fool.
Jan, why was it such a problem for you that some villagers were happy with the flip? I mean ure you love challenges, but these last 2 lines?
I have but i dont see a reason (unless i missed it)
You are free to consiser me but when you come to the conclusion i am a wolf thats where i find it problematic cause
1) i have clearly shown all game i care about solving people and not just get mislunches
2) i have voted on both w wagons in close v/w wagons
3) sleep spewed me v
Fwiw i think you are the least likely wolf and have a post that should probably clear you
For me its between rask and jan
The first 2 points are pointless if we assume this is basically a sk hunt.
Not sure how much anybody should care about spew in a small game with experienced players.
It has to be very clear spew and not your average wolf mucus.
I am not, that's the thing lol. Not as a wolf. So especially not as a villager lmao.
Why are your asking this though? Are you bothered by anything?
Not necessarily. I was just thinking. Day one I thought it might be a soft and was the start of my town read on you that day. I thought even if it wasn’t a soft it sounded town to me because it felt confident. Earlier when talking about syn’s suspicion, you mentioned that happens a lot as town. Which brought me back to that post and the start of my read.
I’m not sure if that makes sense. I’m never up this late on a Tuesday, so if it doesn’t I’ll try to make it clearer what I was thinking and respond to the other post tomorrow.
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It’s entirely possible you were spewed villa and I’ll see it when I reread through stuff. I won’t have time to reread through stuff seriously until I get home from work tomorrow. I’ll respond properly tomorrow.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:32
ladd: would be cool if you could have a look at Suibian/Sleep interactions for me. Think it's pocketing from Sleep but would like to be second-guessed.
tu
I will be reading for a while
Ping me if u need anything.
Jan, why was it such a problem for you that some villagers were happy with the flip? I mean ure you love challenges, but these last 2 lines?
It was too much for too little.
Call me jaded, but your early day posting was over the top for basically nothing.
I get the idea of being hype about a kill, but your posts were 24 hours later.
The kill was not special enough to carry that hype for 24+ hours.
Maybe that was your greatest achievement all week and you needed to hang on to it to make it through the day.
There is no shame in that.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/f9078d162ced0af57338fac2e13b6c93/5df8d755026f637e-cf/s640x960/809e2c70613899a5d7978a0c4045bb3c57a777a2.gifv
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 09:36
It was too much for too little.
Call me jaded, but your early day posting was over the top for basically nothing.
I get the idea of being hype about a kill, but your posts were 24 hours later.
The kill was not special enough to carry that hype for 24+ hours.
Maybe that was your greatest achievement all week and you needed to hang on to it to make it through the day.
There is no shame in that.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/f9078d162ced0af57338fac2e13b6c93/5df8d755026f637e-cf/s640x960/809e2c70613899a5d7978a0c4045bb3c57a777a2.gifv
lol
of the month friendo, of the month.
Truth be told I think if it is not Rask it has to be Ladd, but I don't think it is Ladd but that is still more likely than Sui.
Sui has exactly 1 post that makes me paranoid and that post is means nothing for her alignment and is self-hatred pushing some paranoia buttons in my head.
Not looking it up but d1 she told me she signed up to play with specifically me and ever since then in the back of my head is a small man screaming that this has to be a wolf pocketing me because it simply can't be true.
But the rational me knows it is just a statement she would have made as either alignment because it is not stuff you really make up.
Anyways - the reason why I think Ladd is a villager is weird and complicated and I don't think I can really put the words on paper in a way they make sense for anyone but me.
I tried earlier and I realized while typing that it is such a convoluted mess of me projecting meta and friendship into a wolfchat that increases peoples hype level to play.
I just think the whole sleep-slot would have been more hype with ladd in wolf-chat. But also technically he was guaranteed to get to final 3 from d2 onwards which means there is no reason to try to survive for a partner.
Which is kind of why I really don't care about spew this game. If your plan is to set up a partner for endgame and not to survive yourself then you are kind of in constant anti-spew from the moment you start going down that road.
Or it is just Rask and non of this matters.
If it helps Jan, I said it when I signed up. I was going to copy the post I made in the sign up thread which should be fine because it’s a publicly available post, but I’m not sure if that violates a rule here. So, I’d have made that post regardless of my alignment. I think. I might have been afraid it sounded too pockety in an environment where nobody knows me, so dunno.
I got no sleep last night. Today is gonna suuuuuuuck.
If it helps Jan, I said it when I signed up. I was going to copy the post I made in the sign up thread which should be fine because it’s a publicly available post, but I’m not sure if that violates a rule here. So, I’d have made that post regardless of my alignment. I think. I might have been afraid it sounded too pockety in an environment where nobody knows me, so dunno.
I got no sleep last night. Today is gonna suuuuuuuck.
I told you to sleep!
Why didn't you listen?
Now you have to suffer the consequences and we hate those. :(
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 17:18
How does it feel to replace into a scum slot? Sweatin cold buckets?
Couldn’t resist going back to bed.
i'm loving it, already plotting how to troll you by openwolfing in your face again
cries in shouting to the rooftops that you're scum while getting told by the rest of town that I don't know what I'm talking about.
GOOD TIMES
Here is the chat I dislike the most about Suibian's D1. Feels partnery but at the same time I have the impression she was actually solving people and trying to understand other people point of view then. So I am liking her as villa still.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 17:21
Meanwhile, the conf-biaising that Jan is the last scum is going well, tyvm.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 17:22
I am amusing myself with the fact Jan pinged sleep in the post he voted El Barto. :curtain:
EnderWiggin
11-08-2023, 17:46
I am sorry y'all. Had a long day and then made bad decisions with my free time. I haven't even slept yet and it's 4am.
EnderWiggin
11-08-2023, 17:48
Which means my thoughts on the game right now sum up to a big fat "I think Sui is town for dumb reasons and now I doubt my solve."
Rask/Ladd/Jan have all had town things.
But I'm going to reread tomorrow before EOD. I have a medical appointment AT EOD so I probably won't be around for the very last moments but I want to at least do something before my tragic but inevitable demise.
~townpoints
Suibian
~good vibes
Syn
Wisdom
~fine
EnderWiggin
Totally not Taffy
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Raskolnikov - Montmorency - I should have more opinion but I have reasons to dislike both tbh.
El Barto - 1 post, no input, all pill-on. Weaksauce.
Mostly unsorted people with little use so far:
Visor
nebjiamn r. Sleep
ladd
Kagemusha
Vote: El Barto
Damn the fact that I removed the @ from everybody but sleep is actually precious.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 18:41
Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.
Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?
Will say I did notice the "I like ur wall" and then voting somewhere else.
not super strong based on what's been posted but i don't have any super strong reads as of right now
got prompted by visor giving me the thumbs up in #208, then saw syn poasting and decided i might be reading too much into his his posts so moved there. hadn't seen the VC at the time or i might've voted monty
Visor why are you scum reading wisdom?
sheepable reason I guess.
I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.
I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.
I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.
I don't like this interaction here between Sui and Sleep. Because she isn't following up with a read there.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 18:44
Damn the fact that I removed the @ from everybody but sleep is actually precious.
it really is lol.
Listen I am sorry if i have came accross as unpleasant, but I am definatly struggling solving you rn.
I am still reading and checking stuff fwiw.
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 18:45
ngl, it was really funny though
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 18:46
I don't like this interaction here between Sui and Sleep. Because she isn't following up with a read there.
could use help (someone here wrote an article about villaging after all, time to stop slanking)
it really is lol.
Listen I am sorry if i have came accross as unpleasant, but I am definatly struggling solving you rn.
I am still reading and checking stuff fwiw.
I know if you are a villager then I am just stuck in a tunnel myself.
I can't really blame you for not being all sunshine and rainbows when I am not all there myself. :P
The downside of endgame.
Rask - what read was I suppose to give there that I didn’t?
Raskolnikov
11-08-2023, 20:07
Rask - what read was I suppose to give there that I didn’t?
Its more I am asking myself if you were solving him then.
I will keep reading in a few and make my mind fwiw.
Its more I am asking myself if you were solving him then.
I will keep reading in a few and make my mind fwiw.
Sleep wasn’t my concern in that moment. I was only interested in the eod wagon possibilities that day.
This is your life, you can go anywhere
You gotta grab the wheel and own it
And drive it like you stole it
Sing Street - Drive it like you stole it
This game is ~20% more dead than it should be.
The whole poe is euros and somehow I am jaming all alone.
There is now way I will be around for much longer and Ladd simply has not checked in again.
A part of me is worried he saw Rask and myself clashing and is just staying away to watch us implode.
There is now way I will be around for much longer and Ladd simply has not checked in again.
A part of me is worried he saw Rask and myself clashing and is just staying away to watch us implode.
i am here now
i have posted enough last few days that i didnt think i'd have to care to post in f5 and just read but maybe that was my mistake lol
As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.
the bolded is what i thought overnight was ~lock clearing for suibian cause it completely lines up with them saying this earlier in the game about having to read sleep posts to know who sleep was (gira)
i know for a fact that gira got tilted in an earlier game on org (cause i was in it) so taht shows me they ACTUALLY read through sleep iso to check who they were and that just doesnt happen if they are w/w imo
this is the cherry on topping but I do think they are a villager in general but the above just seems very hard to fake
so ya for me its rask or jan (esp if jan is clearing suibian and they cannot be w/w)
i am here now
i have posted enough last few days that i didnt think i'd have to care to post in f5 and just read but maybe that was my mistake lol
the truth is that I think I have 2 people clear which leaves a poe of 2 people.
That is assuming I don't die myself ofc.
the bolded is what i thought overnight was ~lock clearing for suibian cause it completely lines up with them saying this earlier in the game about having to read sleep posts to know who sleep was (gira)
i know for a fact that gira got tilted in an earlier game on org (cause i was in it) so taht shows me they ACTUALLY read through sleep iso to check who they were and that just doesnt happen if they are w/w imo
this is the cherry on topping but I do think they are a villager in general but the above just seems very hard to fake
so ya for me its rask or jan (esp if jan is clearing suibian and they cannot be w/w)
Yeah.
Basically 2 between you me and Rask can die and we have to hope the wolf is in there.
Which is easy success for the person who endgames as either alignment.
Yeah.
Basically 2 between you me and Rask can die and we have to hope the wolf is in there.
Which is easy success for the person who endgames as either alignment.
no offense but i think i am easily the most findable :p
i'll prob vote rask tho i cant say i am 100% sure cause rask has been posting good, you being a wolf would make my meta read on you obsolete which I kinda doubt (and hope is not true)
also everytime i re read the game your/suibian initial mindmeld on ask read as v/v to me, i just wasnt sure if it was on a wolf
i also dont really believe in frame kills so syn pushing rask hard and dying def doesnt seem great for them
i'll see what ende thinks but thats where i am leaning
no offense but i think i am easily the most findable :p
i'll prob vote rask tho i cant say i am 100% sure cause rask has been posting good, you being a wolf would make my meta read on you obsolete which I kinda doubt (and hope is not true)
also everytime i re read the game your/suibian initial mindmeld on ask read as v/v to me, i just wasnt sure if it was on a wolf
I'll be honest. My brain is fried at the moment.
I have been awake since 3 am and it is now 11pm.
So I just wanted to wait for anything or anybody to be around before I lock my vote somewhere and collapse.
i also dont really believe in frame kills so syn pushing rask hard and dying def doesnt seem great for them
i'll see what ende thinks but thats where i am leaning
syn had both you and rask in his bottom 3 and cape in the middle pack. Either way it was a good kill for the wolf.
vote: Raskolnikov
This is my legacy in case you are stupid enough to switch to me:
Don't wanna be in your club if you take me as a member
I'm not even slightly interested in whether I remembered
I say ashes to ashes, dust to dust
Get me a tombstone if you feel you must
Saying, "Here lies the clown who wrote some songs
He talked too much and stayed too long"
glgl gngn
vote:rasknlnikov
i'll monitor the thread but unless ender says otherwise i doubt i am switching
sorry if wrong
EnderWiggin
11-08-2023, 23:51
You know what? I really like that Sui read. I'mma steal it.
EnderWiggin
11-08-2023, 23:52
Also probably not the best read but Ladd putting that one forward when they didn't need to is a good look there too.
EnderWiggin
11-08-2023, 23:53
I'll be rereading for the next ~hour-ish. Got not a lot of sleep last night tho oops
I wasnt gonna post until closer to eod to give you guis space to post but like...how?
How do you think i am a wolf here, it seems absolutely absurd to me lol
So plz show me its a real thought and not something you just made up.
Did you read my posts? Cause i have an hard time thinking you read my posts and think i am a wolf
I actually like the first line here. I know last night I focused on the rest, but the first line feels relaxed. I don't know usually scum near end game want to at least make it look like they're doing the work to figure out the game, and not be upfront about holding back to see what people do.
I'll be rereading for the next ~hour-ish. Got not a lot of sleep last night tho oops
join the club. I'm exxxxxxhausted and made no sense today at work at all.
I have but i dont see a reason (unless i missed it)
You are free to consiser me but when you come to the conclusion i am a wolf thats where i find it problematic cause
1) i have clearly shown all game i care about solving people and not just get mislunches
2) i have voted on both w wagons in close v/w wagons
3) sleep spewed me v
Fwiw i think you are the least likely wolf and have a post that should probably clear you
For me its between rask and jan
My reasoning wasn't on you, but me going through my thoughts on other people, and thinking that my reasons for them being town are stronger than my reasoning for you being town, but part of that is based on Gira's play day two, which might be bad reasoning, and considering my reasoning for gira being town being wrong I really shouldn't be gauging how he would treat a partner in that situation. By play you and Jan have been my strongest non-roled town reads for most of the game. If it weren't for Gira not voting day two, I don't even think I'd be having reservations here because while I do think that Rask has a lot of posts that seem town, he hasn't been a strong town read for me.
Raskolnikov
11-09-2023, 00:27
ok I have read and I am unwilling to move. (Ladd thinking it's just between Jan and me helps a lot lol).
So either Ender and Suibian joins me to punch a wolf or I am left to wish you good luck in F3.
Good luck in F3 :curtain:
Raskolnikov
11-09-2023, 00:29
https://media.tenor.com/1EaGqSpMblYAAAAM/bye-okay.gif
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:35
Vote: Jan
Watch me pull a tied vote out of my hat!
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:39
Okay but this isn't just about tying the vote.
I ended up cutting reread short cause I gotta head off earlier than expected and also I just didn't have time to reread the entire game.
So ended up focusing on this day phase.
Jan reads less like they care to review other players than anyone else right now. (Ignoring Sui)
Like Raskol and Ladd have poking/probing and holding onto reads that feel good.
Jan has this one weird period they vote Ladd for ???
So it just reads less like they actually care who goes over and only swapped to ladd for a bit just for the optics of appearing to review other people.
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:40
There is now way I will be around for much longer and Ladd simply has not checked in again.
A part of me is worried he saw Rask and myself clashing and is just staying away to watch us implode.
Sorry, not entirely for ??? reasons.
But also just like this is the weakest sauce for them to swap out of their tunnel.
Although it beetlejuicing Ladd is funny
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:42
join the club. I'm exxxxxxhausted and made no sense today at work at all.
I am lucky that my work doesn't have to deal with exhausted me today.
fwiw i am def not sure on rask being a wolf
maybe i'll evne switch i dunno
suibian also being cleared by jan who knows them well also factors in my read there (just so we can split the blame if suibian is the wolf lmao)
Votal 5.3
Rask (2) - Jan (#1223 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851809&viewfull=1#post2053851809)), ladd (#1224 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851810&viewfull=1#post2053851810))
Jan (2) - Rask (#1186 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851770&viewfull=1#post2053851770)), (Ender (#1223 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154906-Cereal-killer-mafia?p=2053851819&viewfull=1#post2053851819))
https://media.tenor.com/brA9DNMSR2MAAAAC/catch22-lewispullman.gif
eod5
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:54
Well I'm out. gl gl
Feel like I should've done more but eh. Sui should get hammer. And this is where Sui is wolf
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:54
Oh that didn't work rip me.
Markup. Why has thou forsaken me.
EnderWiggin
11-09-2023, 00:56
fwiw i am def not sure on rask being a wolf
maybe i'll evne switch i dunno
suibian also being cleared by jan who knows them well also factors in my read there (just so we can split the blame if suibian is the wolf lmao)
I mean tbh if Sui is wolf then I can claim cred while losing. =P So it's optimal I clear them here to look best.
fwiw i am def not sure on rask being a wolf
maybe i'll evne switch i dunno
suibian also being cleared by jan who knows them well also factors in my read there (just so we can split the blame if suibian is the wolf lmao)
Jan doesn't know me that well though we have played several games together, but we haven't played together in a long time. Just probably not something you should rely on that hard even if I think that once you've seen my scum game it's super easy to identify my town game.
Oh deadline is in an hour not two hours.
I mean tbh if Sui is wolf then I can claim cred while losing. =P So it's optimal I clear them here to look best.
That's one thing nobody has to worry about this game. Though if I'm able to post this much when I draw scum again, I'll be delighted.
I just realized that I've voted with Jan all game lol.
I'm not voting Jan.
(Man, I hate being in end game. I'm not used to living this long, and I just can never be satisfied because when I die early I'm bummed I can't play anymore, but then the times I do live this long I'm cursing my luck to have stayed alive.)
at eod yesterday cape mentioned being surprised that we never flavor claimed which I thought was funny because the entire reason I was going to post a link to cornflake girl at the beginning of the game was because I'm cornflakes lol, but Taffy beat me to it.
Woke up to pee and now my fucking adrenaline is raging..
Fuck this shit.
If Ladd switches on me then he is basically putting as wolf that thinks his final 3 is easier against me than Rask.
No ifs or butts about it.
That man has played enough games with me to know beyond the shadow of a fucking doubt that I am a villager in this game.
He has repeated it over and over again and there is no doubt in my mind that him switching now would only be because he is a wolf.
And if you want me to read back more just give me a better iso function to work with.
I voted Ladd because I wanted to see if I would get any reactions at all but this is a dead game and there is not much to do about it.
Anyways.
At least now we know why ender stayed alive.
I am doing my best to not be a condescending prick on that matter.
Will try to sleep again. Fuck pee and fuck adrenaline.
Fuck.
It's now my turn to tell you to get some sleep, but I understand :)
the iso function here is definitely hard to use!
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