This is Football! (Closed 10er)

[Totally not Taffy]

that is indeed consistent with how you've played the game so far

You're starting to understand what my earlier question was about: if we are both town, then we need to find the wolf together or we're both dead and that's game unless there's a kill on town's side to prevent an F4 sleep day.

[Cuthillius]

You're starting to understand what my earlier question was about: if we are both town, then we need to find the wolf together or we're both dead and that's game unless there's a kill on town's side to prevent an F4 sleep day.

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

[Totally not Taffy]

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle

[Cuthillius]

Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle

because i know i'm town and i've put in some work and talked through things enough to satisfy myself if village yeets me here that's on them

and yes but i've explained why i'm voting you

these things are not the same

[nebjiamn]

Cape90 Jan vote or somethin

[Totally not Taffy]

because i know i'm town and i've put in some work and talked through things enough to satisfy myself if village yeets me here that's on them

and yes but i've explained why i'm voting you

these things are not the same

I'm voting you bc Visor asked nicely, he was right about Baudib and since my death is part of the wolf's path to victory, there's an above-average chance that they'd push me today.

But fair point.

[Raskolnikov]

EOD in 15 minutes. Tally's unchanged (Cuth and Taffy tied)

[Jan]

Cape90 Jan vote or somethin

I have no intention to move my vote.

You just want to have an excuse to unvote again.

[Cuthillius]

cmon

[Cuthillius]

it's funny but c'mon

[Raskolnikov]

I have no intention to move my vote.

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)

[nebjiamn]

I have no intention to move my vote.

You just want to have an excuse to unvote again.
nah i'm not unvoting taffy im juts curious to see yours and capes votes

[Jan]

cmon

last time I voted visor was like no you and did weird stuff.

plus chances are Cape has already voted and we will only find out on the weekend.

[Jan]

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)

technically not voting is a vote as well!

[nebjiamn]

Did I miss your vote Jan? (guenine question)
worst mod in north america wow

[Jan]

nah i'm not unvoting taffy im juts curious to see yours and capes votes

Vote: Taffy

You deserve me.

[nebjiamn]

?vote: unvote

[nebjiamn]

brb getting cigarettes

[Cuthillius]

vote: unvote

couldn't agree more ben

[Visor]

Hello

Any changes?

[Jan]

?vote: unvote

vote: nebjamn

spite cfd.

[Cuthillius]

vote: taffy

self pres

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount

Cuth(2): Visor, Taffy
Benneh(1): Jan

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/9898906766_1c159d5c33_o.gif

EOD in 5 minutes

[Cuthillius]

Hello

Any changes?

nope I'm still v

[Totally not Taffy]

?vote: unvote

If your internet/phone dies now or you revote just a second too late and I live bc of your silly joke I will make a meme for you ~D

[Jan]

vote: taffy

self pres

vote ben for self pres dummy.

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount

Cuth(2): Visor, Taffy
Benneh(1): Jan

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/9898906766_1c159d5c33_o.gif

EOD in 5 minutes

Votecount

Cuth(2): Visor, Taffy
Benneh(1): Jan
Taffy (1): Cuth

[Jan]

you better find cape.

I am not moving.

[Cuthillius]

vote ben for self pres dummy.

mb sorry

[Cuthillius]

vote: jan

[nebjiamn]

?Vote: taffy

[Visor]

Cfding Jan does sound fun

[Jan]

vote: jan

that is acceptable too

[Cuthillius]

vote: taffy

[Totally not Taffy]

Vote: Jan

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount

Cuth(2): Visor, Taffy
Benneh(1): Jan
Jan(1): Cuth
Taffy(1): Ben

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22174076/ezgif_7_928081fb993c.gif

EOD in 2 minutes

[nebjiamn]

may the rand be with whoever Wants It MoreTM

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount

Cuth(1): Visor,
Benneh(1): Jan
Jan(1): Taffy
Taffy(2): Ben, Cuth

[Cape90]

Vote: Taffy

You know, I just find this suspicious enough to tie

[nebjiamn]

cfd cape?

its probly him (real)

[Cuthillius]

lmfao

[nebjiamn]

cfd cape?

its probly him (real)
awkward timing

nevermind nice vote cape

[Jan]

Benneh you better kill me over night.

I have no intention of voting anybody but you from here on out.

[Raskolnikov]

Votecount

Taffy(3): Ben, Cuth, Cape
Cuth(1): Visor
Benneh(1): Jan
Jan(1): Taffy

[nebjiamn]

Benneh you better kill me over night.

I have no intention of voting anybody but you from here on out.
sent

[nebjiamn]

make sure you do corrections rask, you skipped em last time and didnt even see capes vote

[Raskolnikov]

Stop posting!

[Raskolnikov]

make sure you do corrections rask, you skipped em last time and didnt even see capes vote

24 hours for corrections

[Raskolnikov]

EOD3: Final tally

Taffy(3): Ben, Cuth, Cape
Cuth(1): Visor
Benneh(1): Jan
Jan(1): Taffy

Taffy has been chopped! They were:

Tua Tagovailoa, from the Miami Dolphins.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/NFL-Carolina-Panthers-at-Miami-Dolphins-17250132-788x444.jpg

Vanilla townie, you win when all threats to the town have been removed.

You also secretly love Jared Goff (your beloved) since you saw this:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974023361304866826/1195801222318411897/Jared_Goff_fancified.png?ex=65b54fac&is=65a2daac&hm=752b1d0fd1dfb2fbdf7d4e60276a6bc49b7c8b5ca33fa59260cea7d80a27e23a&


Send in NAs. SOD4 in 24 hours.

Sleep well friendos...

[Raskolnikov]

SOD4 update:

Jan has been killed! They were:

Dak Prescott, from the Dallas Cowboys.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/NFL-Dallas-Cowboys-at-New-York-Giants-21392882.jpg?resize=2048,1365

Vanilla townie, you win when all threats to the village have been removed.

But Benneh has been corrected too! They were:

C.J. Stroud, from the Houston Texans.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/NFL-Houston-Texans-at-Baltimore-Ravens-21389850.jpg?resize=2048,1365

Vanilla townie, you win when all threats to the town have been removed.

It is now LYLO palios... Votes are locked, but you have still 48 hours to cast yours. glgl

living players:

Visor
Cape90
Cuthillius

dead players:

pzelda
dyachei
baudib1
Gemma
Totally not Taffy
Jan
nebjiamn

[Visor]

lol

lmao even

[Cape90]

I shot benneh

I am PR

Now cross

How tf was it not benneh

[Cuthillius]

oh shit

visor you pr?

[Visor]

oh shit

visor you pr?

i am not

[Cuthillius]

oh shit

[Cuthillius]

vote: visor

alrighty then

[Visor]

well i am very glad you didnt cc lol


Vote: cuth

[Visor]

I shot benneh

I am PR

Now cross

How tf was it not benneh

because its cuth you hippopotamus

[Cape90]

awkward timing

nevermind nice vote cape

how am i supposed to read you benneh, this post was awful and so was you suggesting a CFD on me when i wasn't here

I only voted Taffy because I needed to to perform my vig shot, though my use of my PR action has been trash this entire time.

Basically I needed to predict who would die the next day in order to get a vig shot

I predicted Gemma day 2

Game state looked like Gemma or baud was gonna die and I just chose the wrong one without looking

I predicted Taffy day 3

Just because they looked the least spewed

I thought Taffy was obvious town and I was regretting my life choices, the fact that benneh was tunneling them with some god awful logic like "Taffy isn't solving the game and is only doing this for self pres" just seemed so bad and they just kept tunneling when I was hoping they would just get off

I really could go on and on on why I thought it was benneh and not like... cuth for instance but meh

[Cape90]

Well i ack

[Cuthillius]

well i am very glad you didnt cc lol


Vote: cuth

i mean i expected you to be in f4 with me which i wasn't looking forward to but i didn't think it'd be like this

rip baud

honestly i kinda prefer this though?

[Visor]

Well i ack

what is there to even decide

i sent baudib to the shadow realm

cuth pushed hard for pzelda to die over him and had bad w/w interactions

sometimes ww can be a hard game

this game is not

[Cape90]

because its cuth you hippopotamus

i had my night action on cuth for a while, I wish that I had predicted cuth so I could have hard pivoted off of taffy

[Cuthillius]

to be clear i prefer this iteration of me vs you where i know it's you not this situation vs almost any other situation

[Cape90]

After day 1 I started playing lowkey on purpose to not get night killed since I was kinda greeding to get my vig shot

[Visor]

After day 1 I started playing lowkey on purpose to not get night killed since I was kinda greeding to get my vig shot

spicy

im glad my read on you was correct cause i would have felt like a moron otherwise lol

[Cape90]

my thought is i overthought the cuth shot and should have just stuck with that, idk Cuth felt less detached then benneh was seeming to me

[Cape90]

if i beleived taffy was mafia (which i did not) then i would have been more pushy yesterday, but I was like "I think this holds information because Taffy is clearly town here" and i was wrong about it holding info

[Cape90]

i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it

i was keeping my eye on this post just because it seemed very strange to me

[Visor]

my thought is i overthought the cuth shot and should have just stuck with that, idk Cuth felt less detached then benneh was seeming to me

yes i would agree with this from a unbiased perspective

(also... the fact i punted baudib into the shadow realm...... and cuth did not)

[Cuthillius]

yes i voted for pzelda and i'd do it again his posts were legitimately wolfy and he dropped off the damn map

i was on baud out the gate d2 it was obvious he looked terrible after the pzelda flip

also dude was presumably in counterspew all day d2 what interactions are you on about

both of you tried to kill me eod2 and even if you probably couldn't have gone through with that jan hopped on and it was plausible that i could have gone over there and baud lived another day and you look fine and then yesterday is mylo already

this is a small game hardbussing is a much more legit and reliable play to get a win, especially in a strong playerlist where people are able to post themselves clear

i didn't think you'd have the verve to do it like this but i guess it makes sense given how unidimensionally you've played all game

[Cape90]

vote: jan

was this a joke vote? what was this for


mb sorry

this post came before and it was Jan asking you to self pres on benneh

[Cape90]

yes i would agree with this from a unbiased perspective

(also... the fact i punted baudib into the shadow realm...... and cuth did not)

I assumed there was spew somewhere because both me and ben did the same thing to baud day 2

[Visor]

spew is dumb

kill wolfy posters

[Cuthillius]

i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to say to justify how i've played all game other than i still think going pzelda over baud was the legitimately correct play, i dunked on baud all day d2 except for the moment where i voted you seemingly out of frustration but apparently in a very based way, and then d3 taffy was by far the least villagery person

and i didn't really consider that wolves would play the way they did but fair cop

cape if there's anything i can talk through specifically to help you better understand my perspective let me know

i understand i look worse here because of course i do like i said i expected to end up here after how yesterday went

but i thought it would be a wolf leaving visor alive to push me instead of this

[Cape90]

if cuth is town here, I am sort of thankful i shot benneh

if not

oops

[Cuthillius]

spew is dumb

kill wolfy posters

sure in games where bussing isn't as strong of a strat as it is here

come on

[Cape90]

i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to say to justify how i've played all game other than i still think going pzelda over baud was the legitimately correct play, i dunked on baud all day d2 except for the moment where i voted you seemingly out of frustration but apparently in a very based way, and then d3 taffy was by far the least villagery person

and i didn't really consider that wolves would play the way they did but fair cop

cape if there's anything i can talk through specifically to help you better understand my perspective let me know

i understand i look worse here because of course i do like i said i expected to end up here after how yesterday went

but i thought it would be a wolf leaving visor alive to push me instead of this

idk I disagree with the Taffy assessment, I liked their thought processes around stuff, very genuine feeling to me and they were bringing up really towny things IMO. Stuff that was kinda being heavily ignored

[Cuthillius]

was this a joke vote? what was this for



this post came before and it was Jan asking you to self pres on benneh

both were straight up jokes yes

jan wasn't going over there but he got tilted at the joke unvotes and he voted benneh so i voted him

humor is inscrutable

[Cuthillius]

idk I disagree with the Taffy assessment, I liked their thought processes around stuff, very genuine feeling to me and they were bringing up really towny things IMO. Stuff that was kinda being heavily ignored

in retrospect obviously because visor's a wolf, but a) i was also kinda hesitant around benneh but i thought it was generally better to treat the pr claim as real even if it kinda looked like cover, which left taffy b) look back at the way they talk about baud d1/d2 and tell me that doesn't look bizarre and partnered and c) i was always going to be wrong yesterday because i was assuming the wolves didn't go for the bus the shit out of baud plan

[Cuthillius]

also note that visor was pushing me all day yesterday (albeit without any actual case with which to do so) because me dying before taffy would always be good for him

[Cuthillius]

i would have always shot visor last night

doing otherwise would be suicide 95% of the time

and i actually did think he was most likely pr (with an off-chance of benneh, wp on your part)

[Cuthillius]

to expand on why hard bussing actually makes sense in a game like this

strong players who generally know each other a decent bit, but also small list

this means there should be people who are playing villagery enough that your not dying doesn't raise suspicion, but also that you don't have to keep not being NKed over and over very long before you can win

i assume there's some inciting incident of baud not feeling super into the game-- he did feel pretty limp throughout and didn't really marshal much effort to defend himself or push elsewhere apart from trying to kill me eod2

and i don't know and don't really want to speculate on what that could be, so any explanation i try to give is necessarily limited, but i wanted to point out why it's specifically something that's more viable here than it is in most cases and why it could make sense that the wolves went for it

[Cape90]

also note that visor was pushing me all day yesterday (albeit without any actual case with which to do so) because me dying before taffy would always be good for him

Well, if you ignore #707 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154929-This-is-Football!-(Closed-10er)?p=2053853253&viewfull=1#post2053853253) then yeah Visor had no case on you whatsoever

[Cape90]

to expand on why hard bussing actually makes sense in a game like this

strong players who generally know each other a decent bit, but also small list

this means there should be people who are playing villagery enough that your not dying doesn't raise suspicion, but also that you don't have to keep not being NKed over and over very long before you can win

i assume there's some inciting incident of baud not feeling super into the game-- he did feel pretty limp throughout and didn't really marshal much effort to defend himself or push elsewhere apart from trying to kill me eod2

and i don't know and don't really want to speculate on what that could be, so any explanation i try to give is necessarily limited, but i wanted to point out why it's specifically something that's more viable here than it is in most cases and why it could make sense that the wolves went for it

I would argue that I don't think Visor knows baudib that well
He can correct me on that though

[Cuthillius]

Well, if you ignore #707 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154929-This-is-Football!-(Closed-10er)?p=2053853253&viewfull=1#post2053853253) then yeah Visor had no case on you whatsoever

i read it

i've explained multiple times why i voted pzelda there and didn't flip onto baud

the stuff they said literally applies to like you taffy benneh as well in terms of how you handled baud vs pzelda

it's a shit argument

[Cape90]

i would have always shot visor last night

doing otherwise would be suicide 95% of the time

and i actually did think he was most likely pr (with an off-chance of benneh, wp on your part)

If I shot on your literal off chance choice, that would mean I didn't play it well in your opinion right?

[Cuthillius]

I would argue that I don't think Visor knows baudib that well
He can correct me on that though

no i'm talking about everyone in the game-- maybe it's a me thing but i've played with almost everyone on this list multiple times and a lot of the people here are old hat

when it's like this it's a lot easier for villagers to find each other quickly than when people don't know each other as well

arguably visor and baud not being the closest of palios makes it even more likely to go down this way

[Raskolnikov]

I am off friendos, and tmr (in 4 hours for me :D ) I have a job trip, so ping me on discord when u need flips, I will try to update the thread in a reasonable amount of time :bow:

Votecount:

Cuth(1): Visor
Visor(1): Cuth

gl Cape :curtain:

[Cuthillius]

If I shot on your literal off chance choice, that would mean I didn't play it well in your opinion right?

i mean if i knew you were v and benneh wasn't pr i'd probably have shot him too, so it seems fine to me? you were never gonna shoot visor (nor would i have)

[Cuthillius]

besides if i hadn't been pushing pzelda as much as i was there and other people agreeing i assume visor wouldn't have been going as hard as he did on baud

[Cape90]

I would also say that Visor is being a tad disingenuous with his whole "I am the reason why baud died along with dya" thing


lets do it

#anticuthgang

This also looks like a w/w interaction at a glance


Votecount

Cuth(3): Visor, baudib, Jan
baudib(3): Benneh, Cape90, Cuth
Taffy(1): Gemma


https://media.tenor.com/SdfMuWchRqQAAAAM/dak-prescott-dancing.gif


EOD in 30 minutes :curtain:

especially when this is what a VC looked like near the end of day 2

[Cape90]

meant to swap the 3rd quote and 2nd quote there, but whatever

[Cape90]

Tbh baudib if you aren't a wolf I'd punt cuth into the sun

So if you vote there id consider it

like to me, this whole cuth saga makes me skeptical to just slam the Cuth button

[Cape90]

i know benneh would want me to just slam the cuth button though

[Cuthillius]

i know benneh would want me to just slam the cuth button though

benneh had me above visor in his reads yesterday~

[Visor]

I would also say that Visor is being a tad disingenuous with his whole "I am the reason why baud died along with dya" thing



This also looks like a w/w interaction at a glance



especially when this is what a VC looked like near the end of day 2

i wanted to espouse i thought cuth was a wolf

but (as jan implied earlier) i was never doing anything other than voting baudib

[Cuthillius]

i wanted to espouse i thought cuth was a wolf

but (as jan implied earlier) i was never doing anything other than voting baudib

that would have ruined the whole point of you pushing baud, but it did start a wagon on me (baud/jan) that could have pretty easily gone over there (and would have if the people who were afk didn't come back into thread, moot a point as that may be)

[Cuthillius]

wait nvm i can't count even a little bit

[Cuthillius]

at the time it seemed like i might die from a rand there because nobody was around

[Cuthillius]

or that other people would vote me a la jan

[Cape90]

Fucking betrayal wow

idk man, im seeing things that sort of point to visor

[Cape90]

esp since baud wasn't opposed to openwolving (clearly)

[Visor]

idk man, im seeing things that sort of point to visor

oh my god stop being bad lol

[Visor]

cape look at the ways we approached baudib d1

baudib had multiple townreads (nucluding from myself!) early d1, and then i flipped it and pushed him and dya joined me

if my bro is being townread, why would i flip on him, its dumb

cuth hard pushed pzelda to die d1, and wrote bullshit around baudib i already pointed out was bad yesterday

ww is not that hard

taffy believed me smh and yall killed her

[Cuthillius]

cape look at the ways we approached baudib d1

baudib had multiple townreads (nucluding from myself!) early d1, and then i flipped it and pushed him and dya joined me

if my bro is being townread, why would i flip on him, its dumb

cuth hard pushed pzelda to die d1, and wrote bullshit around baudib i already pointed out was bad yesterday

ww is not that hard

taffy believed me smh and yall killed her

you're way overrepresenting baud's state in the thread he was seen as a cut more villagery than pzelda but that's not saying much but otherwise was at the bottom of the general poe otherwise

and thus teeing up a bus in advance where there's no big risk of it happening d1 and guarantees you endgame just makes sense

again I'm missing the puzzle piece of why you went for that strategy specifically but there are plenty of possible reasons

[Visor]

okay Cape90

i am going to the mountains tomorrow (for real, this isnt a euphemism) so i will not be super around for the day phase, though i will check in mornings and nights

let me lay out some shit (that ive already said)

first: cuths eod1 is really bad, the hard pushign of pzelda without conisderation fo other wagons (i already went over this yesterday)

second: i was like the first person to push baudib and i flipped a town read on him completely unnecessarily to make him a wagon when the whole game was townreading him

third: cuth made an awful push on taffy beacuse taffy is easy to misskill, (just ask me, ive done it plenty of times lmao)

yes this is a lower effort game from me, and i haven't been super forthright and playing hard, but i don't think my play has been unreadable

the fact is, I wolfed against baudib on here a while back, and he was a constant inquisitive thorn in my side, constantly trying to put the puzzle together

here he had an opening with joie de vivre, which led me to townreading him initially, but when i realised that hey, he isn't actually DOING anything to push the game forward, i was like nah bro passive af cya l8r fr fr 100 no cap bless up or whatever the kids say these days

he replied to a bunch of stuff but he wasnt engaging in the act of genuine solving



when it comes to cuth, my initial dislike of his posts stem from some of his overly wordy (poetry) posts which felt like pontificating on rubbish

and then i read over the rest of his posts and agreed with myself (wow) (and his d1 abotu pzelda/naudib was really bad)

but the kernel of everything is simply d1 imo, its the purest day. my progression on baudib is much purer than cuths and thats all that matters.

[Cuthillius]

the way I see it visor's play yesterday was a win win situation for him

he has the cred but can't bolster it too much without people questioning him surviving to f3 potentially but benefits massively from killing me over taffy

so he couldn't have gotten that much more engaged if he wanted to without putting himself in a less comfy situation, and jan had already showed openness to voting me d2 and you were questioning my alignment and taffy would self pres

and i don't think we were that far from me going over yesterday and then we'd be even more fucked here than we are

[Visor]

cuth had nothing to do with baudib dying (he actively prvented it d1)

he bussed d2, sure, but baudib was dead in the water then i was gonna tunnel him into fuckig oblivion and wolves cut their losses and killed dya which made it even more obv he was a wolf

[Visor]

Votecount

Gemma(2): Benneh, Dya
pzelda(2): Cuth, Cape

sleep(1): Baudib


https://media1.giphy.com/media/WdOlyL35LPDFQ5UQLf/giphy.gif


i dunno if id call his post getting down to business

(also dont really have a problem with contradictory behaviour (that said, id love to see moer from him))

im thinking of flipping my read on baudib, feels really passive

Vote: Baudib


this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh


i mean or we're just off

or this is tense

but this doesn't really feel tense it just feels like people are having a hard time posting


i think zelda is a possibility but he's not a very exciting wolf to catch. I'd prefer to find the partner, probably

And baudib kind of fits that bill for me - he's kind of passive, he's rational with his arguments, which I'm not really used to from his village games. He's usually the kind that doesn't completely explain his reads. He's explaining them here and they make a lot of sense. Idk, it just strikes me as wolfy

these posts are in order on d1 (i believe)

look at that tally, double villa wagons

i vote a wolf out of the blue

cuth pushes for pzelda

dya backs me up on baudib

i am the leading cause of baudib getting any traction.

thats the ball game

[Cuthillius]

why would i shoot jan here literally ever

why would visor shoot jan here? because he's the most widely v read person other than visor and it sets up an easy endgame where visor never dies

[Visor]

this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh
this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh

[Cuthillius]

i happily concede that i had a worse progression on the wolf than his teammate who bussed him hard since late d1 in a way that maximizes credit while minimizing risk of baud dying prematurely and also offers the option of me getting wagoned over baud eod2

no argument there

[Cuthillius]

sure let's talk about that post

the thread was dead

it felt like nobody cared and more than that that people were having a hard time caring

pzelda had made like five posts that were incredibly wolfy and then dipped

i thought the threadstate matched one in which they had a partner but partner felt like their hands were tied/were having a hard time wimming it up

this would not be the true of any other individual wolf in that gamestate

i thought pzelda was wolfy and in that context this seemed like the most plausible explanation for me of why the thread was so apathetic

[Cape90]

cape look at the ways we approached baudib d1

baudib had multiple townreads (nucluding from myself!) early d1, and then i flipped it and pushed him and dya joined me

if my bro is being townread, why would i flip on him, its dumb

cuth hard pushed pzelda to die d1, and wrote bullshit around baudib i already pointed out was bad yesterday

ww is not that hard

taffy believed me smh and yall killed her

because it's only the 2 of you as mafia, duh

[Cape90]

why would i shoot jan here literally ever

why would visor shoot jan here? because he's the most widely v read person other than visor and it sets up an easy endgame where visor never dies

how about, he was a person that was never losing a final 3 when the rest of us looked worse then Jan? Doesn't seem that hard to me, i kinda called Jan being the NK because it felt obvious to me tbh

[Cuthillius]

how about, he was a person that was never losing a final 3 when the rest of us looked worse then Jan? Doesn't seem that hard to me, i kinda called Jan being the NK because it felt obvious to me tbh

sure it's a reasonable nk for like anyone other than me lol

but i would just kill visor if i was a wolf here

there would be zero upside to bringing someone who buried baud into f4/3 with me and has been tunneling me since (inclusive) especially if there's likely to be a pr and thus clear alive (since i don't think jan had much of any pr equity from the way he played all game)

[Visor]

Cape have you read my posts

Have you read the cuth posts I've quoted

[Cuthillius]

and in case you're thinking to yourself well what if w!cuth didn't expect village kp and thought he'd be in f4 with benneh who had him as his top town of the remaining people at some point yesterday

a) it's a 10er there was almost always gonna be kp and this was the last moment b) i still thought visor was pr and that's clear if you read my posts yesterday c) jan was pretty clearly not pr and if i kill him there's a town pr in f4 meaning there's no point even sleep and then the best possible outcome for me is 2v2 onto you and that's if town has no kp e) visor dying overnight would maybe indicate me a bit but not a Ton it's plausible from several different people

it would be straight up suicidal for me to shoot jan here as a wolf

[Cape90]

sure it's a reasonable nk for like anyone other than me lol

but i would just kill visor if i was a wolf here

there would be zero upside to bringing someone who buried baud into f4/3 with me and has been tunneling me since (inclusive) especially if there's likely to be a pr and thus clear alive (since i don't think jan had much of any pr equity from the way he played all game)

my argument lies in both me and visor are more pushable, also saying that jan was obviously not PR is total WIFOM, I had other ppl in mind that spewed themselves not PR at all. Like thinking about it from the POV of t!Jan pushing w!you and let's say im the decider as you argue you would have killed Visor as wolf, I would have an easier time killing you then Jan in that match up

this is why I find your logic to be questionable

[Cape90]

well i am very glad you didnt cc lol


Vote: cuth

Before I digest your large post

Why are you glad cuth didn't cc here? If cuth did cc, it wouldn't be hard for you to just kill cuth over me right? I have like 10 more reasons why I killed benneh, okay (other then I tinfoil him every single mid game to a probably annoying level every time we are both town together, sorry benneh)? I could tell all about that and I think my thought process would be more unfakeable then Cuth, if w!cuth actually dared challenge me on that claim.

+you were townreading me earlier in the game very hard and were sussing cuth from before

[Cuthillius]

my argument lies in both me and visor are more pushable, also saying that jan was obviously not PR is total WIFOM, I had other ppl in mind that spewed themselves not PR at all. Like thinking about it from the POV of t!Jan pushing w!you and let's say im the decider as you argue you would have killed Visor as wolf, I would have an easier time killing you then Jan in that match up

this is why I find your logic to be questionable

which is why i've been run up as a wagon at eod two days in a row lol?

also i didn't think you were ~ever pr so i probably would have expected to yeet you/benneh with jan/benneh in that f4/3 shrugs

all of that sounds way more reasonable than bringing visor into that situation

also i maintain that jan wasn't playing like a pr at all

[Cuthillius]

also i categorically disagree that visor is more pushable than jan would have been; dude dumpstered baudib while jan like didn't vote d1 and then voted a villager eod2

but it's kinda irrelevant atp

[Cape90]

okay Cape90

i am going to the mountains tomorrow (for real, this isnt a euphemism) so i will not be super around for the day phase, though i will check in mornings and nights

let me lay out some shit (that ive already said)

first: cuths eod1 is really bad, the hard pushign of pzelda without conisderation fo other wagons (i already went over this yesterday)

second: i was like the first person to push baudib and i flipped a town read on him completely unnecessarily to make him a wagon when the whole game was townreading him

third: cuth made an awful push on taffy beacuse taffy is easy to misskill, (just ask me, ive done it plenty of times lmao)

yes this is a lower effort game from me, and i haven't been super forthright and playing hard, but i don't think my play has been unreadable

the fact is, I wolfed against baudib on here a while back, and he was a constant inquisitive thorn in my side, constantly trying to put the puzzle together

here he had an opening with joie de vivre, which led me to townreading him initially, but when i realised that hey, he isn't actually DOING anything to push the game forward, i was like nah bro passive af cya l8r fr fr 100 no cap bless up or whatever the kids say these days

he replied to a bunch of stuff but he wasnt engaging in the act of genuine solving



when it comes to cuth, my initial dislike of his posts stem from some of his overly wordy (poetry) posts which felt like pontificating on rubbish

and then i read over the rest of his posts and agreed with myself (wow) (and his d1 abotu pzelda/naudib was really bad)

but the kernel of everything is simply d1 imo, its the purest day. my progression on baudib is much purer than cuths and thats all that matters.

1. Yes I agree that it was pretty bad, slightly awkward. I'm kind of in this tug o war state whether cuth would actually push baud like that day 1, like obviously between the both of you there at least was some distancing going on, but I agree that the pzelda thing and the way cuth handled it looked sus.

2. I still think you are giving yourself way too much credit for baud, and also it misreps the fact that the whole town was townreading baud, as dyachei wasn't and actually came in with tangible evidence to support their claim. Not to mention that both you and baud were kinda doing this back and forth with like baud saying "Visor wolf" and you saying "baud wolf". The real people who put real leverage behind the baud push day 2, I'd argue, was benneh who voted them immediately into that day, and myself who even put a whole wall out for Rask to ignore.

3. That's part of the I killed benneh, he wasn't wolf.

I believe dyachei really said the whole moving the game forward argument first against baud.

Also I usually find cuth more wordy honestly, I felt like they were kind of lacking huge text walls that I have seen from their previous town games.

Also what you said about "purity" pings me, like it just seems like a moot point to bring up, like if you are town you ALREADY KNOW your thought process is pure and Cuth's isn't, it's kind of a given. IDK seems a little concerned about image to me?

I apologize for being pedantic here, also I am not too sure I have liked Cuth's focus today, or what they said yesterday about "oh but tomorrow i will have enough energy to towntell". Like ofc this is what mafia would want, to try to project towniness and stall out town from voting them yesterday ago.

[Cuthillius]

that wasn't to stall town out from voting me

that was just things seemed pretty straightforward to me after rereading at eod and nobody was doing anything else about it

i get that you knew benneh wasn't pr but visor bussed and benneh had pr cover and the gemma kill didn't make sense from you and you were villagery d1 and jan was villagery and nobody was working hard to do anything else

which again makes sense knowing what i know now but also kinda made sense with taffy!w

and i thought i'd been plenty villagery earlier

and i sure as hell didn't think i'd end up in an f3 vs visor with you as a clear pr lol or i wouldn't have been so cocksure

i was like 90% sure i was never dying yesterday and if i was i would have taken absolutely zero responsibility for a town loss at that point

[Cuthillius]

i'm going to the mountains tomorrow too btw (this is a euphemism)

[Cape90]

this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh

Cuth if you found the threadstate to lead to pzelda being wolf, does that mean you didn't believe in your wolf read on baud at all?

[Cape90]

i dunno if id call his post getting down to business

(also dont really have a problem with contradictory behaviour (that said, id love to see moer from him))

im thinking of flipping my read on baudib, feels really passive

Vote: Baudib

also nvm you did talk about your read on baud visor

[Cuthillius]

Cuth if you found the threadstate to lead to pzelda being wolf, does that mean you didn't believe in your wolf read on baud at all?

i didn't really have a wolfread on baud at that time i think

iirc he was in my bottom non-pzelda pool with visor and jan or someone else

i think he was probably a slight w-read at most but one i'd be down to kill if pz flipped v (and maybe if w? but i don't know that i thought about that very much) as of eod there tempered with caution around visor specifically

pzelda flipping v and dya dying and his posts sod2 being terrible and floundery tipped it over for me i wasn't immediately on the train d2

[Cape90]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

[Cape90]

i mean if i knew you were v and benneh wasn't pr i'd probably have shot him too, so it seems fine to me? you were never gonna shoot visor (nor would i have)

looking back at this thought it's so disjointed and confused


i would have always shot visor last night

doing otherwise would be suicide 95% of the time

and i actually did think he was most likely pr (with an off-chance of benneh, wp on your part)

you talk about how you would have shot visor if you were wolf (i thought it was about if you were vig in my shoes).

But you circle back to that thought with the "off chance" thing on benneh being PR?

You didn't think benneh was wolf and you obviously know that I know that I am PR and that Visor is not, I got confused and I thought you were saying that I should have shot Visor and not benneh, but there was an off chance that benneh was wolf.

But you complimenting me for my vig shot still make literally no sense because im not wolf and im trying to kill wolf

[Cuthillius]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

what do you want me to do lol visor's literally played this game so he could point at his play and be like hey i bussed my teammate and cuth didn't try to kill baudib as hard as i did

more to the point jan wasn't fucking hellbent on killing me like visor was and also, and i can't emphasize this point enough, obviously not playing like a pr and thus killing him over visor would be signing a death sentence because i'd end up here where visor's gonna try to kill me no matter who's a pr

why would i want to be here right now as a wolf

maybe MAYBE visor is more pushable than jan though again he orchestrated his entire game to look spotless but at least i have some chance of getting one of y'all to vote each other

get out of your pr head for a second and look at a hypothetical me!w perspective where i don't know you're a pr and literally the only reason i could ever get away with not killing visor would be if i was confident i'd hit a pr

maybe you disagree with me that jan wasn't playing like a pr but there's no world in which i shoot someone who doesn't have a high probability of being a pr over visor, because again visor's been trying to get me yeeted over baud (arguably) and taffy (inarguably) for days, both of which are even easier wins for him, and if someone else is a pr then i have to argue against v!visor in this exact situation, which has felt absolutely hopeless from the start

and that's with knowing i'm town

[Cuthillius]

looking back at this thought it's so disjointed and confused



you talk about how you would have shot visor if you were wolf (i thought it was about if you were vig in my shoes).

But you circle back to that thought with the "off chance" thing on benneh being PR?

You didn't think benneh was wolf and you obviously know that I know that I am PR and that Visor is not, I got confused and I thought you were saying that I should have shot Visor and not benneh, but there was an off chance that benneh was wolf.

But you complimenting me for my vig shot still make literally no sense because im not wolf and im trying to kill wolf

i'm not fucking complimenting you for it i'm just saying from your pov it makes sense

i mentioned shooting visor because objectively it would have been the correct move and thus better than what you did but neither of us would have known that last night so it's a moot point

apart from that specific post in the first quote when i've been talking about shooting visor (as in the second post) i've been talking about why i'm not a wolf because i don't have a death wish and thus i would have NKed visor here ~always

[Cuthillius]

does it look like i'm having fun? does it look like i'd wish this situation on myself?

[Cape90]

to me the night kills were predictable and straightforward

Gemma was spewed from baud and was ultra towny d2
Jan has been towny like all game to a clearing degree for me, like if a wolf brought Jan to a final 3, I am almost never voting there, maybe I wasn't transparently clear on that to be fair as I was big lurking days 2 and 3.

But that's also me thinking of the night kills DETACHED from whether I think x person is PR or not

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way about your entire wall you just posted cuth regardless of everything I just said and IDK if I should spell it out or keep it cryptic.

Actually heck it, if I keep it cryptic, I'm not finding you

You have spent a lot of your self defense on Jan talking about Jan obviously not being PR (with 0 receipts by the way). To me all this soul searching for who is PR and who isn't PR sounds like a wolves problem and not towns problem

[Cape90]

does it look like i'm having fun? does it look like i'd wish this situation on myself?

it's a final 3 it's hell for all of us

[Cuthillius]

to me the night kills were predictable and straightforward

Gemma was spewed from baud and was ultra towny d2
Jan has been towny like all game to a clearing degree for me, like if a wolf brought Jan to a final 3, I am almost never voting there, maybe I wasn't transparently clear on that to be fair as I was big lurking days 2 and 3.

But that's also me thinking of the night kills DETACHED from whether I think x person is PR or not

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way about your entire wall you just posted cuth regardless of everything I just said and IDK if I should spell it out or keep it cryptic.

Actually heck it, if I keep it cryptic, I'm not finding you

You have spent a lot of your self defense on Jan talking about Jan obviously not being PR (with 0 receipts by the way). To me all this soul searching for who is PR and who isn't PR sounds like a wolves problem and not towns problem

dude

you think i intentionally put myself in an f4/f3 with visor, who's been trying to kill me since forever and not shown any signs of going anywhere else

even if you think i think jan was a pr and thus a good kill because literally that's the only edge case where this isn't literally suicide you gotta realize that in that world i'd be pushing you

i get that this isn't the strongest defense but idk what the fuck i'm supposed to do because visor did a bus strat and i think it's patently obvious that this would have been shit mechanical play from me as a wolf and is exactly what visor wants as a wolf and i don't know if i can put it any clearer

if you vote me here i get it like i've been assuming i'm dead in the damn water all day

visor bussed hard he got the cred i respect it he can sit there all the live long day and point at how he voted baud earlier and more than i did and how he wasn't wrong on pzelda, who made some wolfy posts, and how i'm wolfy for doing almost exactly what you and taffy and benneh did d1

no persistent hard feelings if you vote wrong here because it would be really damn hard to do anything other than vote me here if i was you i'm sure, but i don't think my point that killing anyone other than visor would be a death wish for me is that obscure dude

[Cuthillius]

the way visor played, he can say look what i did was villagery and what cuth did is therefore wolfy

i can't win that battle, all i can do is explain what was going on my head and also why i would never play the way i have as a wolf

the chips are stacked against me and if you genuinely think i would intentionally ever land myself in this situation where i'm just dead in the water from the start of the round versus one in which visor's dead and i can have a go at misyeeting you or benneh then that's on you but i've spelled it out pretty clearly

[Visor]

Before I digest your large post

Why are you glad cuth didn't cc here? If cuth did cc, it wouldn't be hard for you to just kill cuth over me right? I have like 10 more reasons why I killed benneh, okay (other then I tinfoil him every single mid game to a probably annoying level every time we are both town together, sorry benneh)? I could tell all about that and I think my thought process would be more unfakeable then Cuth, if w!cuth actually dared challenge me on that claim.

+you were townreading me earlier in the game very hard and were sussing cuth from before

yes i wouldve very likely have just voted cuth and been done with it

but i wouldve had to genuinely contend with the potential that i was very wrong and you kept me alive because i was hard townreading you (and also hard wolfreading cuth)

i may be lazy when i play but i would've definitely considered the world where i was wrong, even if it is extremely likely i still wouldve voted cuth in a theoretical cc

[Visor]

1. Yes I agree that it was pretty bad, slightly awkward. I'm kind of in this tug o war state whether cuth would actually push baud like that day 1, like obviously between the both of you there at least was some distancing going on, but I agree that the pzelda thing and the way cuth handled it looked sus.

2. I still think you are giving yourself way too much credit for baud, and also it misreps the fact that the whole town was townreading baud, as dyachei wasn't and actually came in with tangible evidence to support their claim. Not to mention that both you and baud were kinda doing this back and forth with like baud saying "Visor wolf" and you saying "baud wolf". The real people who put real leverage behind the baud push day 2, I'd argue, was benneh who voted them immediately into that day, and myself who even put a whole wall out for Rask to ignore.

3. That's part of the I killed benneh, he wasn't wolf.

I believe dyachei really said the whole moving the game forward argument first against baud.

Also I usually find cuth more wordy honestly, I felt like they were kind of lacking huge text walls that I have seen from their previous town games.

Also what you said about "purity" pings me, like it just seems like a moot point to bring up, like if you are town you ALREADY KNOW your thought process is pure and Cuth's isn't, it's kind of a given. IDK seems a little concerned about image to me?

I apologize for being pedantic here, also I am not too sure I have liked Cuth's focus today, or what they said yesterday about "oh but tomorrow i will have enough energy to towntell". Like ofc this is what mafia would want, to try to project towniness and stall out town from voting them yesterday ago.

i woud like to state for the record, i dont think it is possible to call what i did to baudib distancing

i just straight up ushed him and asked the thread to kill him after i flipped my town read on him lol

2. note the timestamps, dyachei came back with an actual push only after i voted him

(eta: i checked to make sure, and i found this prior to my post, but i don't remember seeing it LOL "I'm a bit concerned about baudib because he seems so rational this game. I think you might be v but not ready to commit to that " and don't think it pushes baudib anyway, just hmmming about him)

post 230 i vote him, post 246 dya pushes baudib

3. yeah but benneh is bad at ww LOL :curtain: (im joking benneh, you're actually terrible) :curtain: :curtain: :curtain:

i will concede that you may find what dyachei said more valuable than what i did, ymmv and that i didnt give a shit about really laying out evidence i just keep telling people tp kill him, which is fair lol

re purity: i said that line to distill the essence of what i believe the pivotal moment of this game to be

i will say the d2 push means nothing to me

dya died after directly pyshing baudib with me, baudib barely tried at all

[Visor]

honestly looking in the early game there were many things that cleared Jan so I am really really not sure im buying Cuth

at the same time, they are objectively socially townier then Visor

But they have also really just "explained" what visor would do as a wolf versus actually going after Visor's content, like i had to point out something to cuth

yes they objectively 'posted more and had more 'solving' posts' if you want to call it that but it doesn't change the actual actions of the game

wolves can post 'solving content' too lol

[Visor]

also his solving posts are bad like i already said lol

[Visor]

im gonna be real all these talk of nightkills

i haven't thought about them for a second LOL i was just annoyed baudib wasn't dead d1 after dya flipped and then annoyed i wasn't dead after baudib flipped

[Visor]

baudib only gets heat because dya and i make him a potential wagon

cuth was happy to push forward on pzelda and lock us into it

idk fellas none of this shit means anything to me

just looks like going through motions, when they couldve voted baudib even just to see what wagons would result but they were firm on pzelda and i dont even recall why beyond the obvious of which other villagers expressed reluctance but cuth never wavered

if i am wrong, cest la vie


you're not going to shame me out of my opinion lol

this is my favourite post of mine in the game

cuth revved up the emotional appeal angle i just said yeet

(also if we're posting dumb dead villager stuff jan tr me far more than cuth LOL)

gonna be real i don't have much left to add, i think i have said everything of value that needed to be said and i don't give a shit about playing an appeal game

you have all the information cape

ill be around for a bit, some tonight and some tomorrow morning american time but i dunno if theres anythign left to discuss

[Visor]

also i maintain that the tenor in thread was weird late d1 and is indicative of a wolf team that for whatever reason was sitting on their hands? i guess i haven't really reread it in the context of baud w but it felt like everyone was sitting around in a circle waiting to see what would happen but without deeply caring about what would happen


taffy can you talk about why cape would be tonight's nk in your mind?

lmao all this posting is just busy work lol

[Visor]

i'm frankly kinda pissed about you saying you think i'm a wolf and then not posting for 24 hours

it's bad and irresponsible and wie gesagt i think we're in a fine place but not if you yeet me lol

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[Visor]

I could see what Visor did yesterday when he was jumping on voting Cuth day 2 as trying to distract from baudib



To me I read as this as Visor thinking Cuth isn't paired with baudib

So it mildly worries me that he's voting there today



though he popped in to say this, and... I don't really get the argument here? I thought the EOD was fine... kinda panicky, eh

it was panicky

and bad

and his other posts were bad

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[Visor]

you know, this feels really fake so idk maybe it's just cuth

I kinda TR Taffy's entrance today


i don't agree, because i think i can post myself clear tomorrow

but regardless i don't really see you trying to find a wolf here and also you're voting me

i've talked through my reasoning on everyone else at least a little bit today if you have issues with any of my reasonings for calling other people v i'd be happy to chat about it


Then why aren't you posting yourself clear now?

~Kettle


I'm voting you bc Visor asked nicely, he was right about Baudib and since my death is part of the wolf's path to victory, there's an above-average chance that they'd push me today.

But fair point.

good posts by taffy

[Visor]

heres the thing cape

we both pushed baudib (cuth and i)

i pushed him on D1 and D2 (before anyone else said a mean word about him!)

cuth pushed him on d2 when he was in prime bus mode (in fact its exactly what i would have done in his situation, get the villager kill d1, ride the bus d2, use credit, win game) that is the typical wolf bus in this scenario

ww is an inherently probabilistic game #gad

surely you have seen wolves do exactly what cuth has done every game. through the lens of optimal wolf play thats just what you do, you take the available villager kills and then when you recognise your pals time is up, you drive the bus, grasp the credit and use it to get the next villager dead, rinse repeat

you could argue that my play also works for wolves (esp given i am alive in f3 i guess), but that just falls into the trap of just because something is possible and might be true, doesn't make it true. yes all thigns are theoretically possible in this game, but my play doesn't make sense as a pairing because i could have just kept townreading baudib and there was no reason for me to switch onto him except for the fact that i had a genuine belief that he was a wolf. my play is not of the person who is playing for f3, i have not played a smooth game (mostly just a lazy one, lol).

i could've just townread baudib and pushed pzelda - lord knows i did actually look at his (pzelda) posts, thinking they weren't great and then rescinded the thought, asking for him to post - all of that obviously not a pro wolf agenda, given pzelda v and baudib w

cuths play doesn;t speak to a villager who genuinely came to a conclusion that baudib was a wolf, it speaks as a wolf riding the bus onto a dead teammate after they knew they had to cut bait.

i will once again reiterate that cuths eod tells you all you need to know. it is focused not on making the correct decision or coming to a correct conclusion, but by reinforcing the status quo of a villager dying over a wolf.

he did not post with any genuine concern about the state of the wagons or the other players

it was abotu locking in pzelda as the kill.

anyway, i'm off to the mountains, see yall tonight if i have service

glglgl

[Cape90]

Vote: Cuthillius

I really should not have killed benneh
wtf was i doing

If you are town cuth, I will say this was closer then you are making it out to be. Felt like you were trying to shame me into voting Visor though
i hammer gl gl

[Raskolnikov]

Stop posting!

10 minutes for corrections.

[Cuthillius]

yes i'm sure i could have done a much better job of making it look like i was coming to the correct conclusion if i knew the correct conclusion ahead of time like you did

but i didn't know baudib was a wolf, and i did think pzelda looked really bad, and for example if you were wolf and baud/pzelda were v/v pzelda would always be the correct first yeet, and basically the only situation that wasn't the right move was this specific one, and your arguing that i was mechanically setting up a good village yeet and then bus ignores all that

and also i'd be putting myself pretty squarely on the line in a way that would look bad if baud did go over there, which i think was not that unlikely there-- as i said i did consider swapping over, and i'm sure by extension other people did as well

it only didn't happen because guess what three other villagers ended up thinking the exact same way i did about pzelda/baud

come on

[Raskolnikov]

EOD4 update:

Final Votecount:

Cuth(2): Visor, Cape
Visor(1): Cuth

Cuth has been yeeted into the sun!

He was:

Kylian Mbappé, from Paris Saint-Germain.

https://sf.sports.fr/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Kylian-Mbappe-2023-11-14T195001.820-1-750x368.jpg

You are the Mafia bullshiter. You will gain a one-time vig shot to be used at night if you successfully fakeclaim a role when leading the votecount (a tie works too). The claim has to happen in the last 12 hours of the day-phase.

You win when you reach parity with the village. You can carry the factional night kill.

Here is your cover role though:


You are Jared Goff, from the Detroit Lions.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/NFL-Detroit-Lions-at-Kansas-City-Chiefs-21365222.jpg?resize=2048,1366

Vanilla townie, you win when all threats to the village have been removed.


Visor was :

Lamar Jackson, from the Baltimore Ravens.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/NFL-Houston-Texans-at-Baltimore-Ravens-21389099.jpg?resize=2048,1365

Vanilla townie, you win when all threats to the village have been removed.

and last but not least, Cape was:

Patrick Mahomes, from the Kansas City Chiefs.

https://sportsnaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Syndication-Detroit-Free-Press-21366009.jpg?resize=2048,1365

You are the town gambler, you win when all threats to the town have been removed.

You may submit a guess each night about which player will be chopped the next day phase. You will gain a vigilante shot to be used on any following night if you guess right.


Town wins! Soccer infiltrators have been overrunned! Well done guys.

Well played woofs, thanks everyone.


Here are DVC:

https://discord.gg/YmdetVxK

Wolf chat:

https://discord.gg/BaeqEFBC

[Hally]

ggs fun to spec

sick reads visor, sick hammer cape

[Hally]

#bennehdeservedit

[Cuthillius]

gg

thanks for hosting rask thanks for speccing hally

[Cape90]

will elaborate a little
I went back and saw Cuth's push on Taffy day 3 and thought that that was pretty wolfy

Visor was convincing me, and I was already leaning killing Cuth, I just took a while because I mess up f3's if I rush
I honestly thought both Cuth and Visor had weird partnery things, but it was only Cuth who was more both sides, I just thought a few things from baud looked partnery for Visor, but not exactly vice versa
I thought Cuth's play by extension felt more partnery then Visor with the whole hedging on baud thing they were doing, and hard pushing quiets day 1 was a bit rand>w, like pzelda was more a shrug yeet for me, I didn't think really that much of their posts.

In terms of my vig shot I remember also sussing #625 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/154929-This-is-Football!-(Closed-10er)?p=2053853155&viewfull=1#post2053853155), I dont remember what it said though LOL. Also calling the Gemma post clean, I was bothered by the Taffy push in general after like halfway through the day, like i made a string of posts and then taffy pops in and that pop in having read it carefully I was just like "this is just town isn't it?" and I was sus of ppl who didn't feel the same... which was like everybody who didn't try to kill cuth.

I also felt that benneh was a tad disconnected because I thought it was clear from my EOD of day 1 that I had bubbling suspicion of baudib1 (thx dya).
Also I thought the PR claim could have been fishing as soon as benneh just didn't die for it and also contradicted themselves with their supposed cover up, which is what I was assuming it was for a while.

During the day today I looked back at day 1 and i was like "what was I doing, benneh is pretty clearly town here".

[baudib1]

gg thx Rask milles mercis

[Raskolnikov]

gg thx Rask milles mercis

Wow tRIPLE LOCK CLEAr

[Gemma]

mahomes always wins in the end

[Cuthillius]

goff goff

[Totally not Taffy]

ggwp!

Thanks for the game everybody :flowers:

[Visor]

GG all wp

Thanks for hosting rask

Fun flavour and setup

[nebjiamn]

ggwp all

good wim cuth

[baudib1]

It’s funny that both teams could have won the final night.

I suppose Cuth’s role implies a conditional vig for the village but it’s hard to read that.

If Cape doesn’t have a vig Cuth always wins assuming town decides to sleep at F4.

[Logic]

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