Mafia VII: Shadows of the Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

I guess no Vogon poetry was available?
Nice one, though. :laugh4:

Vogon Poetry is so Mafia V. (and Cosa Nuova I)

[shlin28]

6 people left... does that mean after this night phase, it will be the last day phase? Since if we got it wrong, the mafia would win :skull:

[Kagemusha]

Thats why i was trying to create that 3 way tie.:shame:

[shlin28]

What would that achieve? :dizzy2:

[woad&fangs]

What would that achieve? :dizzy2:
:idea2: discussion

[Kommodus]

Well, with any luck the game is over. Although the timing of shlin's vote was a little fishy - awfully close to the precise deadline set by GH, I'd say... :inquisitive:

If it's somehow not over, I'll have to go back to the drawing board, since I'm out of strong suspects. If there's still a mafioso out there... let's just say they've done an excellent job and have got me completely baffled. :dizzy2:

[Pannonian]

A quiz question I posted in the RTR forums.


Now for a complete change in direction, nothing to do with military history.

I am an artist forever associated with a river and a bridge, whose poetic genius earned me the nickname "The Great". In addition to being perhaps the second most famous poet among my people, and whose works have a devoted following even today, I took part in a celebrated performance of "Macbeth", playing the title role. It is fair to say that that performance will never die.

Who am I?

Another clue: bios of him usually state that he is without peer as a poet in his language.
The answer was, of course, the Great McGonagall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall).

William Topaz McGonagall, aka "The Great McGonagall"

William Topaz McGonagall (1825–September 29, 1902) was a Scottish weaver, actor, and poet. He is renowned as one of the worst poets in the English language.

McGonagall has been widely acclaimed as the worst poet in British history. The chief criticisms of his poetry are that he is deaf to poetic metaphor and unable to scan correctly. Of the 200 or so poems that he wrote, the most famous is probably The Tay Bridge Disaster, which recounts the events of the evening of December 28, 1879, when, during a severe gale, the Tay Rail Bridge near Dundee collapsed as a train was passing over it.

Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

(Modern sources give the death toll as 75.) One commentator remarked that "a lesser poet would have thought it was a good idea to write a poem about the Tay Bridge disaster. A lesser poet would have thought of conveying the shock of the people of Dundee. But only the true master could come up with a couplet like:

And the cry rang out all round the town,
Good heavens! The Tay Bridge has blown down."

McGonagall also considered himself an actor, although the theatre where he performed, Mr Giles' Theatre, would only let him perform the title role in Macbeth if he paid for the privilege in advance. Their caution proved ill-founded, as the theatre was filled with friends and fellow workers, anxious to see what they correctly predicted to be an amusing disaster. Although the play ended with Macbeth's death at the hands of Macduff, McGonagall believed that the actor playing Macduff was trying to upstage him, and so refused to die.

I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.

[shlin28]

Well, with any luck the game is over. Although the timing of shlin's vote was a little fishy - awfully close to the precise deadline set by GH, I'd say... :inquisitive:

If it's somehow not over, I'll have to go back to the drawing board, since I'm out of strong suspects. If there's still a mafioso out there... let's just say they've done an excellent job and have got me completely baffled. :dizzy2:

There was a deadline??? I just came and voted for whoever :dizzy2:

[RoadKill]

Once again, I will assult Kommodus and CR. By this time I think the mafia would ahve gotten rid of Kommodus for now, since his Holmes powers are sooo powerful, and trustworthy. I'm telling you guys, hes using his Holmes powers to hide from the fact that he is the mafia. :furious3:

[Kommodus]

Once again, I will assult Kommodus and CR. By this time I think the mafia would ahve gotten rid of Kommodus for now, since his Holmes powers are sooo powerful, and trustworthy. I'm telling you guys, hes using his Holmes powers to hide from the fact that he is the mafia. :furious3:

Er... why do you say you will assault me and CR? Why are you so sure the game isn't over? Are you, perhaps, in a better position to know this than the rest of us?

At this point only the mafia know whether or not the game is finished. :inquisitive:

[Lord Winter]

Once again, I will assult Kommodus and CR. By this time I think the mafia would ahve gotten rid of Kommodus for now, since his Holmes powers are sooo powerful, and trustworthy. I'm telling you guys, hes using his Holmes powers to hide from the fact that he is the mafia. :furious3:
But wouldn't be safer to leave alive still under suspestion instead of killing him and confirming that his findings were true?

[Beefy187]

If the games not over, you townies got only one shot getting it right. Good Luck :yes:

[Tratorix]

Well, sorry to disapoint most of you, but this ain't over yet. Sorry I didn't really defend myself at all, but I seem to have been struck down by a sudden illness. Well, you only have 1 lynch left- make it count(this is assuming there aren't 2 mafia left, in which case your screwed and we all really suck at this game:clown: )

Oh, 1 last thing: WHY HASN'T ROADKILL BEEN LYNCHED YET! HES BEEN ACTING SUSPICIOUS FOR LIKE 5 ROUNDS NOW!

Well, that's all I have to say, except for Good Hunting :smg: .

[RoadKill]

BSR, a lot of trust goes to me, cuz no host ever choses me as mafia, and I dont think I would've tried suiciding before, if I was mafia. Still trust me people, Kommodus or CR.

[Beefy187]

Ive seen you as mafia in farmtown. So you cant say ever

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If we've lynched two scum I bet it was pann and bsr.

[RoadKill]

Also BSR, in my defence why the hell would I act so obviously suspicious is because I kept thinking I was gonna die anyone, so why don't I make a scene, and I think your lacking some commense sense, to take in that suspicion as me being the mafia.

[sapi]

Once again, I will assult Kommodus and CR. By this time I think the mafia would ahve gotten rid of Kommodus for now, since his Holmes powers are sooo powerful, and trustworthy. I'm telling you guys, hes using his Holmes powers to hide from the fact that he is the mafia. :furious3:
If you do not die this round, I give up.

You've been acting suspiciously for many, many rounds now, with ridiculous comments such as that, which is completely illogical.

If the town wants to have a chance, you have to go.

Not at all sorry ~;)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. No buildings were occupied, except for the few houses in which people still lived in. All of the shop owners had long fled.

Naturally, this made for the perfect sneaking environment. Everyone was barricaded in their houses by now; surely they wouldn't bother to notice a mafioso running around town, rigging things to his liking. For eventually, they would emerge from their fortresses...

Stig was the first to step outside. He ignored the newspaper still on the driveway (far too many people had perished picking it up), tiptoeing carefully so as to avoid any grass traps, concrete traps, or streetlight traps. He made his way - carefully - to the bar, ready to drink his boredom away, ready to pass the time until it was time to go back to the town square.

He finally made it to the bar, opened the door, and sighed a sigh of relief. The door was not booby-trapped. He was still alive. But his good feeling was fleeting. Once he saw the messiness of the place, he screamed, emanating a voice a pure horror.

The place was a wreck. Pieces of broken glass, evidently from bottles and mugs, were everywhere. The floor was wet and sticky from hundreds of bottles of alcohol being smashed. It looked like the mother of all bar fights had taken place here.

Stig gulped. Was there anything to drink here at all? Had he made this trip for nothing? He rifled through the bar, trying to find something, anything, to drink. Then he saw the bottle and its label and screamed again.

The only thing left to drink in the place was Heineken.

"Do I or don't I?" he said, talking to himself. "Surely it's the worst thing ever invented by man, but it's got alcohol in it, and I could really use some alcohol right about now..."

He swallowed (both his saliva and his pride), closed his eyes, held his nose, and began chugging the stuff. Instantly he gagged. It was horrible, worst than he had remembered, and there was a peculiar aftertaste to it, very peculiar indeed...

He collapsed to the floor, adding to the bar's mess.

The rest of the town, while obviously not hearing about Stig's situation, continued to barricade themselves in. They were paranoid, they weren't taking any chances. The places were wired; if an ant farted on their property they would know about it.

shlin28 went even further, somehow acquiring pressure sensors and a non-nuclear missile. If anyone even took one step on his grass or driveway the sensors would pick it up and they would soon find a heat-seeking missile headed directly for their position. He grinned. He would be surviving this day, at least.

Then, the window broke. Some foreign object came flying through it, a foreign object that quickly began to smoke. Gas! shlin groaned, all that work he had put into stopping a close-range assault and the mafioso went and threw a gas canister in through his window.

He groped around for his gas mask, but it was far too late and he collapsed. Out in the street, Mr. A.F.I.A. stared at the lawn, chuckled, and then drove away. His task was almost complete.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered all the remaining villagers into the town square in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he said somberly, "This is it. Whether we get the right person tonight or not, this is the last time we go through this process. If we win, we win. If not, I estimate that by tomorrow the Mafia will have enough manpower to complete their attack, and you will all be dead. With that in mind, I advise you to analyze the situation, go over all possible actions, and focus. If you get it wrong, it's your life. Get voting!"

~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (4)
RoadKill
Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
Kagemusha

Suicide/Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
FesterShinetop
Fragony
Don Corleone
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Ichigo

Killed:
pevergreen
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius Flaminius
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
Byzantine Mercenary
Warmaster Horus
Xdeathfire
Destroyer of Hope
Twilightblade
Dutch_guy
greaterkhaan
Tran
sapi
discovery1
CountArach
Proletariat
Tiberius of the Drake
Stig
shlin28

Executed:
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
Andres
Lemur
Xiahou
woad&fangs
Pannonian
Brave_Sir_Robin

~~~~~~~~~

Final round. Good luck, you four.

[Dutch_guy]

From the four still alive I think either Kommodus or Roadkill is going to bite the dust*. Roadkill seems the one more prone to getting killed, as he's more or less been waiting for it the last 4 turns. That said, he's still here, and has a vote to back his presence up.

* Based on the fact that Kage has been so low profile that not much can be said about him, and on the fact that I more or less trust The Truth.

Anyway, tense final round to say the least.

:balloon2:

[woad&fangs]

The Curse Vs. The Truth Vs. Holmes Vs. .....ugh, sorry Roadkill, I guess you don't have any trademarks.:beam:

[Crazed Rabbit]

How am I still alive?

For a while after I pulled out The Truth there was discussion and argument over it. But last round only Roadkill suspected me, and the town seemed to generally believe me. So why am I not slain?

That leads me to believe it must be either Kommodus or Roadkill.

Kommodus - he was the first to believe me, and was almost eager to do so, while everyone else piled more suspicion on me. It'd be easy for him to know I'm innocent if he was mafia. And perhaps he hoped that I would be glad of his support and support him in kind. And so by leaving me alive he gains a supporting vote in the final rounds.

Roadkill - well, we all know what's he's done to be suspicious. He's used the 'a mafia wouldn't act so suspicious' card to explain his erratic behavior and terrible logic. That, of course, is WIFOM - a mafia would know that the town generall thinks noone being that odd is mafia and so 'hide in plain sight'. And so far he has, amazingly, managed to ride out great suspicion for several rounds.

With all that, though, I'd lean towards Kommodus. What has holmes done for us this game? About as much as it did in mafia III, where Kommodus was mafia.

However, one of Roadkill's posts after the lynch stuck out to me:

Once again, I will assult Kommodus and CR. By this time I think the mafia would ahve gotten rid of Kommodus for now, since his Holmes powers are sooo powerful, and trustworthy. I'm telling you guys, hes using his Holmes powers to hide from the fact that he is the mafia.

This was after BSR had been lynched, and before we knew he wasn't the last mafioso. How could he be so sure there would be a next round?
He goes on to call Holmes 'sooo powerful' that the mafia would have killed Kommodus, then that Kommodus is using his Holmes powers to conceal his mafianess. It's just too much, on top of all that's he's written before.

vote: Roadkill

Crazed Rabbit

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Although Beefy is posting extremly more then usual, it doesn't determine hes scum. maybe before he wasn't that intrested into the mafia games, and now hes into it more, so hes trying to get in discussion more, maybe. But hes reasoings and post are still very scummy.
So MFOS: Beefy and Unvote: Lemur; Vote: Abstain PFOS: Lemur.
Maybe my reasons for voting him is a little weak, I'll wait a little longer, to see.

...
I reveiwed the thread, although it is a weak accusastion, Lemurs responses to many quiestions have been akwardly scummy, I havn't played with him before so I don't know if in previous games he does that. So for now Vote: Lemur


This an obvious massive bandwagon which isn't going to help the town at all. I find this a pointless lynch. We should have more detailed discussion to find out more. Vote:Abstain


No, hes just a noob. I am almost 100% sure hes not mafia. So I suggest you use your vote for a better person, instead of wasting your vote.


No I am not in the Bremuda triangle, this game is getting confusing, like I can't keep track of everything and I have no idea whats going on, so I'm just keeping quiet and reading the thread up till I understand whats going on.


I sticking to me vote against Kommodus, I just have a feeling I'm right

Vote:Kommodus

Its this late in the game, I think the mafia would have killed him by now.

Read up to about page 36. These posts convince me RoadKill is mafia.

CR has sworn, this is innocent.

Kommo and Kage are playing just like usual.

I don't think Kommo's lack of anything conclusive on holmes is significant. I think the mafia are among pann, bsr, and roadkill and they would all be able to avoid holmes.

[RoadKill]

Is it me or does Sasaki sound like the other mafia that was lynched. He defends Kommodus, more then once now.

I'm also pulling away my suspicion towards CR. I doubt he's the mafia now, since he is pushing his suspicion on kommodus, who has been defending him repeatidly before.

Vote: Kommodus. Die mafia scum.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That's funny, since I wasn't lynched. I guess that was too convenient a way to try and discredit me?

Also, it's strange that you say your not suspicious of CR anymore "because he's pushing on kommodus" without mentioning that since there are only 4 people alive they can't both be mafia.

[RoadKill]

I know they both can't be mafia. I said either CR or kommodus could be mafia. So now I'm thinking that CR can't be mafia. I typed it in a rush, so I might have worded it wrong. (Busy playing Madden NFL 08)

[sapi]

We have two choices here: either Roadkill is mafia, or CR has relinquished his truth-telling reputation in order to win.

Both Kommo and Kage have been playing as they usually do, and thus shouldn't be focused on when we have a better target.

That target is, of course, Roadkill. I've been saying this for rounds, as have others; he has bee posting in a scummy manner; flip-flopping, advocating courses of action that go against common sense, and relying on the forgetfulness of the town to push a false point.

I do commend him on getting this far, though it's more the town's fault than his.

Lynch him and be done with it.

[Stig]

Get Kommo

[Kommodus]

At this point, no matter how this game turns out I've failed the town. Pathetically. I've gotten it wrong I don't know how many times in a row now, and that's just sad. Not quite sure if I'm going to be able to live this down. :shame:

So, four remain - and not the four I'd have expected. I'm completely bewildered as to how Crazed Rabbit is still alive, this many rounds after he's pulled out The Truth. Nevertheless after all the experience I have with him, he's got to be innocent.

So that leaves two suspects: RoadKill and Kagemusha. 50/50 odds. For all the good my attempts at logical deduction have achieved in this game, I'd probably be better off just flipping a coin. :embarassed:

If it's Kagemusha, he's played a spectacular game - convincingly pretending to try to sniff out the mafia since the very beginning. I don't believe he's ever been under serious suspicion in this game. Statistically there's almost nothing I can say about him: the only exception is that he's been jumping into the discussion a little more quickly in this game than is normal for him. The truth is I'm tempted to vote him simply because I can't imagine someone better able to keep us so completely confused for such a long period of time.

If it's RoadKill, I would say he's played a pretty lousy game on the surface - in fact, his game would be so bad it's good. He's been sticking with the same reasoning for round after round at the end, despite that reasoning having been utterly debunked long ago. It makes perhaps a little sense that he would've been the one to me and CR alive, since he's been going after us and doesn't appear to believe CR's Truth ability - but that just seems too obvious. I've believed RoadKill innocent for a long time because, well, his gameplay is simply so terrible that I can't imagine it coming from a mafioso. The question is, is this guy crazy like a fox, or just simply crazy?

At this point the mafia are laughing at me. Fine. There's one more thing I'm pondering, and that I need more time to consider.

The remaining mafioso must have a partner among the lynched players. I wonder if we can find a connection between Kage or RoadKill and one of them?

I'd say if RoadKill is mafia, his partner would be... Andres. A couple of rounds ago, I briefly voted RoadKill, but this vote was immediately criticised by Andres. I changed my vote (not because of Andres' criticism but because it seemed like the right thing to do), but now I'm beginning to reconsider.

If Kagemusha is mafia, I have no idea who his partner would be. I'll have to keep going over things.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, don't like that post of kommodus. There's too much I disagree with there.

[Kagemusha]

I think its either Kommodus ot Roadkill. I get suspicious about Kommo simply becouse the use of Holmes gives him large influence over the town and if he would be mafia, that would be great weapon against the town. Roadkill on the other hand is playing so scummy, that it seems like a small miracle that he hasnt been lynched yet, if he is mafia, it seems as if he has made so far based on luck mostly.CR, i just have to trust, if he is lying to us and using his truth as smoke and mirrors, it just means he will win this game and cant use the "truth" anymore, which is healthy thing at the end. Based on these thoughts, i will Vote Roadkill. If Kommo is mafia,i would like to congratulate him for an amazing game as mafioso.:smash:

[shlin28]

I think the mafia is Kagemusha :sweatdrop:

[Husar]

I don't know, I think lynch RoadKill because him winning the game would be the most embarassing. If it was one of the other three, congratulations.:2thumbsup:

[Stig]

Pathetically. I've gotten it wrong I don't know how many times in a row now, and that's just sad.
Yeah, we trust you for nothing

Now lynch him

[Proletariat]

Lynch Roadkill. Kage is playing normally, CR did his truth thing, and the town deserves to lose if it's Kommo for falling for this 'DON'T LYNCH HIM IT RUINS HOLMES' non-sense.

[RoadKill]

Vote: Roadkill

Good game Mafia. You win.

[Sigurd]

Why haven't you placed a vote Kommous?
The reason why Holmes has not returned good results is .. maybe.. You have fabricated them.

Right now RoadKill only needs Kommodus' vote to receive a total majority. Is it a daring act? To let people believe he is giving up and then maybe, just maybe, unvote and vote for a different player.

You guys say: It can't be Kommodus or Kage since they play as they always do... How naive can one get?
Off course they are playing like they always do... This is the secret behind playing a successful game as Mafia.

[Stig]

I think that Roadkill just proved innocence. It may look guilty, but you don't do this this late in the game.

Kommo is the mafia you're after, maybe together with CR.

[Pannonian]

Why haven't you placed a vote Kommous?
The reason why Holmes has not returned good results is .. maybe.. You have fabricated them.

Right now RoadKill only needs Kommodus' vote to receive a total majority. Is it a daring act? To let people believe he is giving up and then maybe, just maybe, unvote and vote for a different player.

He's already made it a majority.

Roadkill 3 (Crazed Rabbit (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1682562&postcount=1272), Kagemusha (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1682931&postcount=1281), Roadkill (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1683270&postcount=1286))
Did not vote 1 (Kommodus)

Spoilsport.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting ends in four hours.

[Kommodus]

Crap. Ok, I've been looking for a connection between one of the suspects (RoadKill and Kagemusha) and one of the lynched players. The only thing I saw that remotely fits the bill is Andres criticising my vote for RoadKill.

I've also been reviewing Kagemusha's game interaction in particular detail. It looks as though people have suspected him on quite a regular basis, though nothing serious ever really developed. Excerpts follow.


Blatant attempt to portray himself as outside the mafia camp when it wasn't required, or even helpful to the discussion....
Vote: Kagemusha

Don has notably been suspicious of Kage throughout this game for various reasons.


Vote:Kagemusha

He seems to be trying very hard to fly under the radar to me. He pops in, says something that usually just adds to confusion and then leaves again.


If it's not Rabbit, and I don't think it's Kommodus, then Csar/Ichigo and Kage are the experienced players left who are capable of playing this well. I'll go for Kage.

Vote: Kagemusha


This is bad... if I vote for anyone, people will say Im bndwagonning...

Oh who cares, Vote: Kagemusha, Die experienced player Die!

For me, there are two interesting points concerning Kagemusha:

1. He began the game with what appeared to be a "poke" attempting to draw out the mafia. This is fairly typical of Kage; it fits his normal tactics for drawing out the guilty. He was placed under suspicion for this, however; and after this he only did it a couple of times.

2. The Kage I remember from previous games would, at this point, probably be really paranoid about me. I'm a bit curious as to why he doesn't seem to be so now.

Another interesting thing. At many points in this game we've all wondered what was up with the choice of kills. Why kill Sasaki? a bewildered town asked. And why leave Crazed Rabbit alive when he's known to be innocent? Why leave Kommodus alive, for that matter?

The mafia, in their kills, have been brushing aside conventional wisdom. One thing is certain: they were not the kills I would've expected from a guy like Kage. So I ask myself and others: is that what we were supposed to conclude?


But like i sayed before, im not mafia and you can lynch me if you want, you should just think,would i do mistakes like killing Sasaki,when he is under suspicion already.

Of course, we all know that Kage doesn't mind being lynched; he's told us the same before:


Does spelling error count as a vote? I dont mind dying,but im not the mafia.

Of course, RoadKill is extremely fishy. The reasons for this are obvious. His persistent bad logic, his "suicide" stunt, and this latest post of apparent desperation:


Vote: Roadkill

Good game Mafia. You win.

But right now, I am extremely paranoid about Kagemusha. He's an exceptional player and has deflected suspicion smoothly in this game. I may be wrong, but:

Vote: Kagemusha

EDIT: I was going at add one more thing, but forgot: Occam's razor would seem to dicate that RoadKill is the one to lynch. It's possible paranoia is getting the better of me in this game, as it did in GFII, another supremely confusing game. I'll have to think this over.

[RoadKill]

Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
You were a good mafia Kommodus.

[Csargo]

Occam's Razor indeed...

[woad&fangs]

Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
You were a good mafia Kommodus.
I know who I'm lynching next game. Effing quitter:shame:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Roadkill has been doing many scummy things, but Kommodus's behavior this round screams "scum trying to appear protown".

[Husar]

They're all scummy in their own way if you ask me. :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yes, Occam's Razor does seem to be a prevalent theme throughout this game...

Twenty minutes until lynch.

[Kommodus]

Kommodus, I'm not trying to pull anything, we lose, lynch me.
You were a good mafia Kommodus.

Then for the love, man, place a vote on Kage. I know you think I'm mafia - you've thought so for a long time - but I'm not. Create a tie and give us more time.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

[Kommodus]

Ah crap. Game over. :shame:

Great game Kagemusha. Really well-played. You get a new nickname: Moriarty.

And it looks like your record in GH's games continues unsullied. You are easily one of the best, if not the best, mafioso I've ever played with. If I was going to lose to someone, I'm glad it was you. :shakehands:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sunset.

There were four people left, the Final Four, four little Indians, all awaiting their fate. They had cast their votes, discussed one final time, and then waited for the second act of the nightly show (in town ten days only, but make sure you see the finale!) to come onstage; waited for the final votes to be read.

Chief of Police Beirut entered the show stage left, but to no applause. After all, it would be out of place. Instead, he placed the gun and book from the previous night on the same table as before and read the votes without any pre-emptive speech.

"Gentlemen," he said after the votes had been counted, "You have hereby determined RoadKill to be guilty of murder. I can only hope that you're right. RoadKill, have you anything to say before your sentence is carried out?"

RoadKill made his way up the platform, looking very sad. Was it from failing the town? Failing his mission assigned by superiors? Who knew? "Yeah," he sighed, "You guys got the wrong guy. Can I at least have the antimatter chair or the sharks? Those were cool deaths."

"No. You get the second half of The Tay Bridge Disaster, mafioso."

"What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty?'

"There's only one way to find out," Beirut said with a touch of finality. He opened the book and thumbed through the pages, finding the one he wanted, and slipped the headphones over his ears after tying RoadKill's hands down.

"So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
And the passengers' hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov'd most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year."

The screaming began. None of the town heard it, as all of their hands were firmly clamped to their ears in terror. None of them wanted a repeat of Ichigo the previous day. RoadKill suffered alone.

"So the train mov'd slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time."

The writhing and wriggling began. Since this was a visual cue rather than a sonic one the three remaining townies took notice. Each had a different thought on his mind.

"As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o'er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill'd all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav'd to tell the tale
How the disaster happen'd on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time."

Beirut looked out pleasantly over the developments taking place. He didn't suffer, his ears were covered up and were being blasted by Pink Floyd's "Sheep." He was the lucky one. He paused, ready to read the final stanza.

"It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed."

That was it; the incredible suckitude of the poem had taken over. Driven insane by the horrible meter, RoadKill, with a surge of adrenaline, broke through the rope, bellowed, dove for the gun and shot himself in the head while still in midair. It was done.

There were three left now, three little Indians that had once been four; were they all doomed to lose even more?

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (3)
Crazed Rabbit
Kommodus
Kagemusha

Suicide/Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
FesterShinetop
Fragony
Don Corleone
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Ichigo

Killed:
pevergreen
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius Flaminius
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
Byzantine Mercenary
Warmaster Horus
Xdeathfire
Destroyer of Hope
Twilightblade
Dutch_guy
greaterkhaan
Tran
sapi
discovery1
CountArach
Proletariat
Tiberius of the Drake
Stig
shlin28

Executed:
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
Andres
Lemur
Xiahou
woad&fangs
Pannonian
Brave_Sir_Robin
RoadKill

[Crazed Rabbit]

You sound a lot like you did in M3, Kommodus.
:inquisitive:

Crazed Rabbit

[shlin28]

Huh? We should have lost :inquisitive:
Cos two people will die during the night, so why bother doing another night phase? :dizzy2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

For suspense. :evilgrin:

[Csargo]

:bigcry:

[Xiahou]

The suspense is killing me....

Well, technically it did kill me- a few rounds back. :clown:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm thinking it was kommodus after all...

[Kommodus]

You all may be in suspense, but I'm not. The game is over, and the town has lost, and the mafia have won. CR, it's been nice knowing ya, but you and I are going to die tonight. :skull:

Oh, fear the day Kagemusha's name is chosen at random to play the mafia role! I think we may have a new "always-lynch-this-guy-first" candidate to replace Sasaki.

Yes, he fooled me very well for the entire game. He fooled us all. Some people suspected him occasionally, but none could build a strong enough case to get him lynched.

Gah, I am so ashamed/frustrated/embarrassed right now... :help:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The only point of that post would be to try and convince us that you are innocent...you've already said that stuff before.

You did a really good job at seeming townie up until the last couple rounds, and managed to win the game...good job :bow:

[Kommodus]

The only point of that post would be to try and convince us that you are innocent...you've already said that stuff before.

You did a really good job at seeming townie up until the last couple rounds, and managed to win the game...good job :bow:

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

You are going to be so surprised at the outcome of the game...

(My real purpose was to congratulate Kagemusha and to express my disgust at my own inadequate efforts...)

[Crazed Rabbit]

You are going to be so surprised at the outcome of the game...

Crap. Crap, crap, crap. You pretend you're mafia when you really aren't and now you're saying you're innocent.

Sorry Roadkill.

CR

[Kommodus]

Crap. Crap, crap, crap. You pretend you're mafia when you really aren't and now you're saying you're innocent.

Sorry Roadkill.

CR

Just because I did that once doesn't mean I do it every time. I didn't do it in all the other games when I was town, did I?

By my life, how I wish you were right... :bigcry:

Though your apology to RoadKill is appropriate. For my part, I apologize to Xiahou, Pannonian, Brave_Sir_Robin, and anyone else I got falsely lynched. :sorry:

[Proletariat]

Unless GH forbade the mafioso from confessing before his final write up, you seem like the only player left who would pretend to be innocent after the game was over, Kommodus. Nice job

[RoadKill]

It be funny if kage was mafia, and if i unvoted and voted for him, we would have won. So yes blame it on me, for being a quitter.

[Husar]

:dizzy2:

I'm still lost and Kage is rather quiet.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hoo boy, this commentary is gonna be a bear to write.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Informal poll.

While you guys are waiting, why not post here your predictions and guesses on who the two mafiosi are?

[Beefy187]

Whens the next write up coming?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tomorrow sometime.

[seireikhaan]

Suspect: Kagemusha

Edit: admittingly, I stopped paying real close attention after I died.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'd bet Kommodus for what I've said here and beefy for kommo's defense of him + what I said at the time.

[Kommodus]

One of them is Kagemusha. I am 99% sure of this. Too bad I couldn't figure it out until it was too late.

The other, I've really got no idea. For a while I thought it was Husar, but at this point it could also be Beefy187, Andres, or Xiahou. For the sake of having a chance to win the bet, I'll bet Xiahou.

Doesn't matter now though. Notice how quiet Kage's being. He just doesn't want to give anything away prior to his official victory celebration.

:balloon2:

[Beefy187]

Heh im gonna get it wrong anyway so I wont say anything..

Besides im still one of the suspect arent I?:sweatdrop:

[Xiahou]

The other, I've really got no idea. For a while I thought it was Husar, but at this point it could also be Beefy187, Andres, or Xiahou. For the sake of having a chance to win the bet, I'll bet Xiahou.

You'd change your bet if you wanted a chance to win. :wink:

[sapi]

Roadkill was mafia, or CR has just destroyed his reputation.

I am almost certain it's the former; I know for a fact that it was not Kage or Kommo ~;)

Beefy was the other mafia, imho; the kills switched to 2x Mr A.F.I.A. after his death.

[Stig]

Kommo, even tho Sapi as detective says he isn't.

Why means it's CR

[Andres]

I think the mafia was Husar and Kommodus...

*** makes mental note: must not forget to delete this post in case I'm wrong ***

[sapi]

I think the mafia was Husar and Kommodus...

*** makes mental note: must not forget to delete this post in case I'm wrong ***
*forgets if Andres has edit permission on his posts, but quotes anyway as an insurance :grin2:

[Husar]

I think the mafia was Husar and Kommodus...

*** makes mental note: must not forget to delete this post in case I'm wrong ***
Too late, I've already seen it, why do you hate me so much? :inquisitive: ~:mecry:

[Kommodus]

You'd change your bet if you wanted a chance to win. :wink:

Unbet: Xiahou
Bet: Beefy187

~;)

[Kagemusha]

Sorry i was out last evening. My paranoia tells me that the mafia was Kommo. If you were indeed mafia i think you played astonishing game, mis leading us all with Holmes, but if not we won the game,hopefully.:sweatdrop:

[Sigurd]

I am almost certain it's the former; I know for a fact that it was not Kage or Kommo ~;)


Well well, So you know for a fact that Kage or Kommo was not Mafia?
But you got killed by the mafia.. If you were the detective then woad&fangs were a mafioso.
The other is then either RoadKill or CR ... My gut said that RoadKill was not.

Then my bet would be woad&fangs and CR

[woad&fangs]

Just because I lied about being the detective doesn't mean that I was a mafioso. Maybe I was just mad about my lynching and the fact that you were trying to "circumvent" the rules.

[shlin28]

I bet Kagemusha is the mafia :egypt:

[Sigurd]

Just because I lied about being the detective doesn't mean that I was a mafioso. Maybe I was just mad about my lynching and the fact that you were trying to "circumvent" the rules.
You could just have replied to one of those 4 pms I sent you before you were lynched.. Ya know... with the words: I am not the detective.
Then how did you know Sasaki was innocent?

[Andres]

You could just have replied to one of those 4 pms I sent you before you were lynched.. Ya know... with the words: I am not the detective.
Then how did you know Sasaki was innocent?

Because Sasaki was killed night 1...?

[Sigurd]

Because Sasaki was killed night 1...?
I guess someone has followed this game closely... *cough* :no:

[Pannonian]

I guess someone has followed this game closely... *cough* :no:
Well done for nabbing the 1337 post.

[Kagemusha]

Vote GH for taunting us for:playingball: so long!

[Crazed Rabbit]

I maintain that I did not lie, and I believe the write up will bear that out.

Though with Kommodus's behavior, I might wish I voted him instead of roadkill.

Crazed Rabbit

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet.

Storm clouds had swept over the town during the night. The three survivors had been up all night and seen the clouds roll in. In the morning their little town seemed to be a massive gray prison. It was all silent.. Even the birds and insects had been driven out by the violence. They waited. Not for anything in particular, just... waited.

Time passed, but the clouds remained. As noon approached, the three remaining villagers heard Chief of Police Beirut announce over the public address system that they should meet in the town square.

Slowly, cautiously, they made their way out from behind formidable barricades in their houses and moved to the town square. Beirut had said nothing of anyone being killed, and they were still alive; could the mafia be dead? After ten days and thirty-six deaths, could they *finally* be dead?

The first to arrive in the desolate square on that desolate day was Kommodus, carrying a laptop and a gun. He parked his car in the square (there was plenty of room), got out, and made his way to the execution platform where Beirut was motioning for him. The platform seemed more crowded than usual, with all previous execution devices (aside from the exploded electric chair) present. The Chief of Police himself was holding the gun that had been used in the most recent two executions.

"Glad you could make it, Kommodus," Beirut said, his tone giving nothing away. "What does Holmes say?"

"Nothing, as usual. It's come up as 'inconclusive' again and again. I really need to make some major upgrades if I survive."

Beirut snorted in disgust. "Let me be the judge of that," he said. "Put it on the table and open it up. We'll see if that's really its results or if you're just faking its ignorance for your benefit, mafioso."

"I'll do what you ask," Kommodus said. "But keep in mind that after my first 'inconclusive' your Detective probably investigated me for himself. If he passed the information to you then you'll know that I'm not acting."

"Well, now that you mention it..." Beirut suddenly stared down at the floor, "Well- yes. sapi did pass off the information to me before he died, but I thought that he might have been... mistaken."

"Since when has a Detective ever been mistaken in the Frontroom?" Kommodus asked. Beirut didn't reply, and the two of them stood in silence, waiting as the dark clouds lingered overhead.

The next person to arrive was Crazed Rabbit, jumping out of his car, wearing a bulletproof vest and a rather large assault rifle.

"Good God, he's coming to kill us!" Kommodus yelled, and the two of them dove for cover behind the antimatter chair. Beirut quickly regained his composure and, using reflections, aimed his gun (accurately) at Rabbit.

"Hold it!" he shouted.

"What is going on?!" Rabbit half screamed/half demanded. "I turn my house into a fortress and now you want me to leave it to come here? Out in the open?! A sniper could grease us from a thousand different spots!"

"That doesn't explain why you needed to jump out and go Special Forces on us!" Beirut yelled back, this time standing up.

"They could have captured you and forced you to say that," said Rabbit in a slightly milder tone. "Or they can be good mimics. How was I supposed to know it was you? Anyway," he said, spotting Kommodus, "We have him. What does Holmes say?"

"Inconclusive," all three said in unison. Rabbit groaned, and the yelling resumed. Since all three of them held guns they came very close to firing shots when the third car pulled up. Kagemusha got out, walking into the square with dignity, carrying a katana.

Beirut pointed his gun at Kage. "Freeze!" he yelled. "Don't take one step closer!"

"Since I'm carrying a heavy katana and am still a hundred feet away from you, I don't think that's necessary!" Kage yelled back. "Anyway, what's going on? Did we get the Mafia?"

Nobody had given that much thought. After ten days, death was expected; it was the norm. Were they finally breaking the cycle? Did they win? Did they cheat what was coming to them?

"Perhaps..."

"Maybe..."

"Did we really..."

And then, the worst of them all.

"No."

Just then, a wind rose up and began blowing through town. The clouds darkened and began furiously rolling and churning in the sky. It seemed like some malevolent force was controlling nature. The two events happened simultaneously, no nobody was sure who had said "no," or if anyone had said it at all, if it was just the wind mocking them. Unconsciously, they all drew closer to each other in the square.

As the wind rose, it almost seemed like more words could be heard on the wind, so they grew even less certain of themselves. The four of them stood looking outside the square as the wind grew even stronger, whipping leaves and trash through the air.

And there could be seen fleeting movements of ... something at the edge of the square. Dark shapes dashed between cars and bushes. In an instant, the wind stopped, and the various objects flying through the air began to gently descend. Five words could be heard:

"We have waited long enough."

Then from behind a hundred different hiding spots, from every dark spot, glimmers of light could be seen. They looked like eyes.

The clouds opened up and a deluge fell, as the villagers remained unmoving and pointing their weapons at the outside. One final word was softly spoken, almost lost beneath the drumbeat of rain:

"Vengeance."

A hundred great rabbits leaped from the edge of the square and ran towards the center. The townies all opened fire, or began slashing, but it was futile. In two seconds the horde was on them, knocking them down, tearing and slashing. All but Crazed Rabbit. He had not shot his rifle. After the rabbits had gained control over the remaining townies, he finally turned towards them.

First, he spoke to Kagemusha. "Long ago my ancestor was killed by one like yourself. They swore vengeance back then and have pursued it until today. When they learned of your presence in this town I was sent to take vengeance for my kind. And look at what you've made me do! I have become that which I hated, a murderer!" He paused for an instant. "But I have prevailed."

And then he shot Kagemusha in the head.

"But, but ... you swore!" exclaimed Kommodus.

"I'm sorry, Kommodus," said Crazed Rabbit, turning to face him. "But I did not lie. You asked the wrong question. I am in the Mafia, but not the mafia. An important difference this book might help with." He tossed a Merriam Webster dictionary to Kommodus, then nodded to a rabbit near him. The rabbit jumped and bit out Kommodus's throat. It was over quickly.

The rabbits then left, melting back into the landscape.

He turned to Beirut, who had been disarmed but spared. "You're the worst of them all," he said. "You think we are bad, killing off innocent townspeople, but look at the blood on your hands. By your hand you executed nine innocent townies, only once, by a stroke of luck, nailing my partner woad&fangs, or Waldinger, or whatever you want to call him. I think you'll have a good long time to look at the hollow shell that used to be your town and think about your actions."

He paused, staring back at the landscape. What he had said to Beirut was true, but was that the whole story? He looked around, at the death and mayhem he had caused, all for vengeance against one person. He almost gagged with revulsion. What had he done? The killings, brutal and bloody, pure murder. What terrible form of evil had he become?

He dropped his rifle, then his vest, and slowly walked out of town.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Survived: (1)
Crazed Rabbit

Suicide/Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
FesterShinetop
Fragony
Don Corleone
Pra Tha Funkee Homo Sapien
Ichigo

Killed:
pevergreen
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius Flaminius
Killfr3nzy
Sasaki Kojiro
Byzantine Mercenary
Warmaster Horus
Xdeathfire
Destroyer of Hope
Twilightblade
Dutch_guy
greaterkhaan
Tran
sapi
discovery1
CountArach
Proletariat
Tiberius of the Drake
Stig
shlin28
Kommodus
Kagemusha

Executed:
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
Andres
Lemur
Xiahou
woad&fangs
Pannonian
Brave_Sir_Robin
RoadKill

Result:
MAFIA VICTORY

~~~~~~~~~

A huge congratulations to Crazed Rabbit, the first mafioso since Kagemusha in Mafia I to survive one of my games!!!

Great game everybody. Commentary will be in a few days.

[Pannonian]

I should have stuck with my convictions instead of listening to Kommo's assurances that Rabbit was innocent. BTW CR, was I right in reading that you were trying to do a Kommodus impression with your running story?

[Csargo]

Never again CR. Remember that.

[Husar]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

CR guilty? That's hilarious! :laugh4:

Well, congrats if it's true, I hope this "truth" stuff will end then.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Never again CR. Remember that.

Not necessarily, you just have to analyze The Truth very carefully. :book:

-edit- Apparently, you guys didn't read it thoroughly enough. :no:

[Stig]

So, when did I say that CR lied before?
~D

Kommo was more suspicous tho

[Pannonian]

Also, sapi, I expect a writeup, or at least a list of names you investigated. You were killed in the 7th round, so you had 6 innocents on your list, yet you didn't reveal. Why the flippin' heck didn't you?

[woad&fangs]

Hhahahahhahhahhahahahahhaha!!!!!! I am Mr.A.F.I.A.!!!!! I killed Sasaki!!!!! I was Sigurds "detective"!!!!!! I told CR to kill Stig with Heineken!!!! You were all FOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLEEEDDD!!!
Muwahahahhahahah!!!! I might add some commentary later. By the way, Sigurd, you were spot on about Bismarck doughnuts. Notice that both mafiosos were Americans.

Chant it with me people, USA, USA, USA,......
I'll let the rabbit explain how he beat your question. I think that I should be the one to question him from now on so we avoid any of these little loopholes.

[Husar]

Not necessarily, you just have to analyze The Truth very carefully. :book:

-edit- Apparently, you guys didn't read it thoroughly enough. :no:
Yeah, there's always some way to pull it off I guess which is why I would disregard the truth completely.

[woad&fangs]

I should have stuck with my convictions instead of listening to Kommo's assurances that Rabbit was innocent. BTW CR, was I right in reading that you were trying to do a Kommodus impression with your running story?
Actually, I'm the one who started the crappy running story.

[Stig]

Meh, atleast I got you right as mafia ... thank god that was an inactive round

[Pannonian]

Actually, I'm the one who started the crappy running story.
Ack. I thought it was CR since he witnessed Kommo's similar story in M3. Could you or CR provide a writeup for this game, or a link to an outside forum where you discussed the game?

[woad&fangs]

Ack. I thought it was CR since he witnessed Kommo's similar story in M3. Could you or CR provide a writeup for this game, or a link to an outside forum where you discussed the game?
Sure, I'll provide a writeup for the game. Truthfully, we didn't talk a whole lot. One of us would provide 2 people we want dead and the other would choose one of them to kill. That was really about it. We didn't talk at all during the first night phase. And of course there is the Sasaki kill where I told him I was going to kill Sasaki no matter what and just ignored his advice not to. Also, don't forget that anyone can read the old mafia games.

Edit: out of curiosity, GH, why do you view old mafia games before you post the kill scenes? I got into the bad habit of viewing peoples profiles.(like the exchange between me and Ichigo)

[Pannonian]

Sure, I'll provide a writeup for the game. Truthfully, we didn't talk a whole lot. One of us would provide 2 people we want dead and the other would choose one of them to kill. That was really about it. We didn't talk at all during the first night phase. And of course there is the Sasaki kill where I told him I was going to kill Sasaki no matter what and just ignored his advice not to. Also, don't forget that anyone can read the old mafia games.
Just giving us your thoughts and reactions round by round would be enough of a story. It must have been suspenseful, not to mention amusing, watching the town accusing and lynching each other like mad. Tell us in your writeup how you felt watching this unfold.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Mafia vs mafia is a meaningless distinction :tongue3:

[Beefy187]

Who own me money?:clown:

Now you all know that im never mafia

[Tratorix]

Well, I didn't see that one coming. Congrats to Crazed Rabbit and Waldinger on a game well played. ~:cheers: :bow:

Also, my apologies to Roadkill, for pushing for his lynching and not believing him about CR's guilt. :shame:

[Sigurd]

Informal poll.

While you guys are waiting, why not post here your predictions and guesses on who the two mafiosi are?


Well well, So you know for a fact that Kage or Kommo was not Mafia?
But you got killed by the mafia.. If you were the detective then woad&fangs were a mafioso.
The other is then either RoadKill or CR ... My gut said that RoadKill was not.

Then my bet would be woad&fangs and CR


So do I win a price for guessing the two mafiosi right?

And we should all thank Ichigo for Lynching that treacherous detective. :wall:

Good game W&F... you fooled me. a little too late. And CR... You know this honesty business is now over. Finally!! You have the mark of Cain now like the rest of us.

[Beefy187]

I thought that CRs statement was little wierd. But i didnt want to be soo picky. :oops:

Well played mafia :wall: and thanks for excellent game GH :bow: I liked the second half where there was lots of long ass arguement going on. It was very intense.

[Pannonian]

So do I win a price for guessing the two mafiosi right?

Not when you do it that late in the day. I should win a prize for correctly deducing the mix of the 2 mafiosi, and for pushing for Rabbit (the surviving mafioso) long before the rest of you twigged. If only you lot had listened to me...

Headless ghost wanders into the night, moaning "Where is my head?"

[Tiberius of the Drake]

I KNEW I was right. ah well. nicely played Mafia. especially Cr

*note to self; Cr=good mafia*

[Sigurd]

Not when you do it that late in the day. I should win a prize for correctly deducing the mix of the 2 mafiosi, and for pushing for Rabbit (the surviving mafioso) long before the rest of you twigged. If only you lot had listened to me...

Headless ghost wanders into the night, moaning "Where is my head?"
Well as I said in the game... I would let CR win the game if he were lying. The reputation had to go someday.

[Crazed Rabbit]

BwahahaHAhaha! (http://sounds18.tripod.com/season3/SSB_laugh.wav)


Mafia vs mafia is a meaningless distinction

Not according to Merriam Webster:


Mafia
2 entries found for Mafia.
To select an entry, click on it.

Main Entry: Ma·fia
Pronunciation: 'mä-fE-&, 'ma-
Function: noun
Etymology: Mafia, Maffia, a Sicilian secret criminal society, from Italian dialect (Sicily), probably from mafiusu
1 a : a secret criminal society of Sicily or Italy b : a similarly conceived criminal organization in the United States; also : a similar organization elsewhere <the Japanese Mafia> c : a criminal organization associated with a particular traffic <the cocaine Mafia>
2 often not capitalized : a group of people likened to the Mafia; especially : a group of people of similar interests or backgrounds prominent in a particular field or enterprise : CLIQUE

I'd be lying if I said I was in the mafia.

:beam:

Don't blame me for your inadequate questioning.

Why do you think I wanted Kommodus to ask a question instead of just writing a statement myself? Did I not ignore what Sasaki wanted me to swear? Did I ever swear I was innocent?

Synopsis:
I was excited about being chosen as mafia for this game.

However, I was also worried. I had snaked through as mafia with the Truth intact in Attack of the MacSobers, where Kommodus had spotted me, so I knew I had to come up with something that would deceive the town.

Throughout the game our general strategy was to kill off those who weren't getting suspicion but weren't going to get WoG'd. Worked out pretty well, and even Sasaki didn't do much to harm us after we killed him.

W&F got lynched in a situation we could have avoided, but by then Sigurd thought he was the detective and that feeling seemed to spread.

After I got questioned and convinced you guys I wasn't in the mafia, I just coasted to victory, really.

CR

[seireikhaan]

CR, I humbly request that you change your username to Lord of Loopholes, or else, Grand Snake Who Can Never Be Trusted.:thumbsdown: Good game anyways.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

haha, that's sweet. Amazing that you've gotten around it twice now.

[Kommodus]

Well, good game guys. Great game, Crazed Rabbit and woad&fangs. You both did an incredibly good job, and have won a well-deserved victory! :applause: :balloon2: :applause: :balloon2: :applause:

That said, it's time to review my own reasoning to figure out where I went wrong.

First of all, the easy question: why couldn't I detect woad&fangs using Holmes?

Part of the answer is that he was a new player who had played few games. He had left some benchmarks in earlier games, but those games were less active on the whole and not directly comparable to this one; also, he hadn't been mafia in either. (This is significant because, in Mafia VI, I got Andres even though he only had two games under his belt at the time - but he had been guilty in one.) Therefore, even though there were some statistical differences with his behavior, I failed to recognize them as significant. Other than that it was a simple failure of my subjective analysis: I didn't correctly interpret the meaning of his posts. Maybe I didn't look closely enough. It doesn't matter; one way or another I got it wrong.

The harder failure to analyse is my failure to identify Crazed Rabbit.

One one hand, it's much easier to identify reasons for this failure. I never even used Holmes on CR. What would be the point, I reasoned? His innocence or guilt can be easily determined - simply force him to break out The Truth. If he refuses to do this in a satisfactory manner, you know you've found your man. I had followed MacSobers and easily determined that CR was guilty, so I assumed I'd be able to do it in this game as well.

However, the slippery Rabbit felt he had a way out, using an extremely small loophole - the difference between "Mafia" (capitalized) and "mafia" (uncapitalized). Therefore he felt he could make statements like this and still leave The Truth intact:


No, I am not in the mafia.

Like my fellow townies, I hate the mafia and all their evil acts, I want to see them dead, and I swear this to be true.


I hate the mafia and all their evil acts, I want to see the mafia dead, and I swear this to be true.

I, Crazed Rabbit, swear I am not in the mafia.

I swear all this to be true.

So, what is my judgement on this? Did he successfully fool us all and leave his stainless reputation for honesty intact?

Sorry, Crazed Rabbit, but my answer is no. The Truth has, for me, forever ceased to be a factor. This has been the last game in which I will trust your attempts to use it.

Why do I say this? Technically, your argument may have some merit - the dictionary apparently does contain the two entries you quoted. But alas, it's all smoke and mirrors. In the context of this game, when we say "mafia" it's clearly understood what is meant, with no room for ambiguity - whether we capitalize it or not.

I therefore judge the loophole you used to be completely irrelevant. If the statements you made, which I quoted above, are to be judged ambiguous, then nothing you say can be interpreted with any degree of certainty. You could even state "I swear to be an innocent townsperson" and still find some way out. I don't know how - perhaps by using alternate definitions for "innocent" and "townsperson" - but I'm quite sure you could do it. Or maybe you'd simply explain that you never swore the statement to be true. It wouldn't matter, since The Truth apparently has an infinite number of caveats, which allow you to say what you will in whatever way you choose to say it, and still claim that you never lied. :dizzy2:

So in the end I'm not as dissatisfied with the outcome of the game as I thought I would be. I really was completely baffled for most of the game, as all the suspects I was examining kept appearing innocent. I really did think I had Xiahou properly figured, but with Pannonian and Brave_Sir_Robin I was frustrated and grasping at straws. The defeat by Crazed Rabbit isn't a big deal to me because, realistically, there's no way I could've figured him out. He won the game, but he's forever lost his super power - The Truth no longer exists. To have that removed as a factor in future games... actually feels kind of good.

So once again, great game by everyone. Good efforts by the townspeople, especially those who figured out woad&fangs. And fantastic gameplay by both of the mafia. Crazed Rabbit, you got your vengeance - albeit at the cost of your reputation. I hope it was worth it. And finally, excellent hosting by GeneralHankerchief. Another thrilling, suspenseful, and challenging game, brilliantly hosted.

Signing off,
-K :bow:

[RoadKill]

I would like to say i TOLD YOU SO. :2thumbsup:
Good game mafia.

[Kommodus]

I would like to say i TOLD YOU SO. :2thumbsup:
Good game mafia.

No dice, RoadKill. You were going after me and CR - but mostly me by far - for the last 4 or 5 rounds. Your votes were all for me, not CR. By the end you had decided that CR was innocent (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1682685&postcount=1276). So you don't get the privilege of saying "I told you so" - you were wrong just like the rest of us.

[Xiahou]

Not according to Merriam Webster:



I'd be lying if I said I was in the mafia.

:beam:
Well, while we're being technical- the rules refer to "mafia" not "Mafia". Did your role PM capitalize Mafia? Probably not. In that case, you were in the "mafia", not the "Mafia". ~;p

No matter, as Kommodus says, 'The Truth' is no longer a factor- technicality or not. Good game everyone. :2thumbsup:

[RoadKill]

No dice, RoadKill. You were going after me and CR - but mostly me by far - for the last 4 or 5 rounds. Your votes were all for me, not CR. By the end you had decided that CR was innocent (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1682685&postcount=1276). So you don't get the privilege of saying "I told you so" - you were wrong just like the rest of us.


:laugh4: Stop telling everyone, I just want to make you guys feel bad.

[Crazed Rabbit]

However, the slippery Rabbit felt he had a way out, using an extremely small loophole - the difference between "Mafia" (capitalized) and "mafia" (uncapitalized). Therefore he felt he could make statements like this and still leave The Truth intact:

So, what is my judgement on this? Did he successfully fool us all and leave his stainless reputation for honesty intact?

Sorry, Crazed Rabbit, but my answer is no. The Truth has, for me, forever ceased to be a factor. This has been the last game in which I will trust your attempts to use it.

Why do I say this? Technically, your argument may have some merit - the dictionary apparently does contain the two entries you quoted. But alas, it's all smoke and mirrors. In the context of this game, when we say "mafia" it's clearly understood what is meant, with no room for ambiguity - whether we capitalize it or not.

And my evasions in MacSobers were not smoke and mirrors? You yourself said I could have sworn that I wasn't a mafioso in that game, since I was a MacSober, not a mafioso technically. How is that different from this?

Good game, all around, either way.


Well, while we're being technical- the rules refer to "mafia" not "Mafia". Did your role PM capitalize Mafia? Probably not. In that case, you were in the "mafia", not the "Mafia".

Hmmm...

Background: That wonderful Kingdom of Peace and Love, the Frontroom, is under attack by the Mafia, who have infiltrated two of their members into the town. Why is this town so important to the Mafia? Who knows? If it is why don't they send more people than just two untested rookies? Who cares? The townies are not without hope, however, for they can invoke the power of democracy and lynch one of their own every day, and they also have a Detective dilligently working to find the identity of these two perps. Will the Frontroom be saved? Only time will tell...

:beam:

Crazed Rabbit

[Csargo]

It's the same word...

[Beefy187]

Shouldnt trust people in mafia game anyways. :laugh4:

Hey but you can start trusting me:yes:

[Kommodus]

And my evasions in MacSobers were not smoke and mirrors? You yourself said I could have sworn that I wasn't a mafioso in that game, since I was a MacSober, not a mafioso technically. How is that different from this?

Are you serious? :dizzy2:

Here's what you did in MacSobers:




Well, you stuck to your word and you were being honest, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Unvote: Warmaster

Here's an idea to help find the mafia.(Or narrow the field)

Crazed Rabbit, are you mafia?

Nope.

You guys know though, that I don't like projecting 'I'm innocent - noone is going to lynch me, mafia, so you might as well kill me now!' right at the beginning of a game.

The only reason I'm doing this is because I got lynched in KFM (Andres...*glares*) so I figured I'll help you guys not waste a lynch.


When pressed on this obviously inadequate response, all you said was this:


Ichigo's right - I already said I'm not mafia.

Bit different than what you did in this game, no?

Anyway, had you actually done what I suggested - swearing not to be mafia and later saying "I was actually a MacSober" - it still would've been quite different. The difference between "MacSober" and "mafia" is much greater than the difference between "Mafia" and "mafia." In MacSobers there might have been some room for ambiguity in the statement "I swear I'm not in the mafia." Not so in this game.

Also, remember this?


Like my fellow townies, I hate the mafia and all their evil acts, I want to see them dead, and I swear this to be true.

The only logical interpretation of this statement is that you are swearing it to be true in its entirety, including the part about you being a townie.

My point is, if the statements you made in this game could be considered ambiguous, then any statement you make can be considered the same. We all reviewed your statements carefully and none of us could find any wiggle room. So the next time you make such a statement, no matter how clear it appears, we have no way of knowing whether or not there is some loophole - real or imaginary - that only you have thought of.

That is why The Truth is a casualty of this game.

[seireikhaan]

I'm with Kommo on this. CR can no longer be viewed as honest, for no reason other than the fact that he will find even the TINIEST little loophole/technicality to avoid incriminating himself should be be mafia. For the purposes of mafia games, mafia=Mafia. They are one and the same. That is why CR can no longer be viewed as trustworthy, imo.

[Crazed Rabbit]

So be it, if that's your view. At least people won't start voting me because they want me to swear I'm not mafia.

You know, The Truth was started so that I could stop late game attempts to lynch me. You turned it into something that could be used as a sword to hang over my head, to force me to incriminate myself.

If you think of the truth is dead, so be it. But think of it as a big part of a meta game, that I've been playing ever since I started using the truth, in order to win this game.

I'll be mafia again, and I won't use the truth. And I'll still win.

CR

[seireikhaan]

I'll be mafia again, and I won't use the truth. And I'll still win.

CR
Good to know you're humble in victory, CR.:no:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Oh, come on ~;p

You were just saying I can never be viewed as honest again.

I just got through the biggest game of GH's mafia ever. I think I can be a little boastful.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kommodus]

So be it, if that's your view. At least people won't start voting me because they want me to swear I'm not mafia.

You know, The Truth was started so that I could stop late game attempts to lynch me. You turned it into something that could be used as a sword to hang over my head, to force me to incriminate myself.

If you think of the truth is dead, so be it. But think of it as a big part of a meta game, that I've been playing ever since I started using the truth, in order to win this game.

I'll be mafia again, and I won't use the truth. And I'll still win.

CR

Actually, this is precisely why I'm not that disappointed or concerned about being defeated in this game. This is the good that's come of it. :2thumbsup:

I'm not quite certain who you're referring to, but I don't believe it was me who turned The Truth into "a sword hanging over your head." It was, of course, inevitable that it would become precisely that, due to its very nature.

I actually did suspect the day would come when you would use your reputation to win a game as mafia. The Truth was indeed a powerful weapon. It served you well many times as a townie, and it served you well in this game as a mafioso, despite being a one-shot-only weapon. I think it's actually remarkable that you kept it going for as long as you did, in a contest where deception is at the core of the game.

So I welcome this change, since it means you're now playing on the same level as the rest of us. For my part, I have never sworn and will never swear my innocence (or anything else, for that matter) in a game of mafia, no matter what role I'm playing. This is because even in a game, I would not swear to anything false - and I don't care to find myself in your dilemma.

Your meta-strategy, having reached its endpoint, has proven successful - congratulations! Please don't think I'm bitter or angry in the slightest - far from it! As I said, I figured this day would come eventually; I simply had no idea when. Now that it has I can stop wondering.

You are indeed a fine mafioso, Crazed Rabbit. Though it remains to be seen how you'll do next time you wear the fedora...

:bow:

[sapi]

Also, sapi, I expect a writeup, or at least a list of names you investigated. You were killed in the 7th round, so you had 6 innocents on your list, yet you didn't reveal. Why the flippin' heck didn't you?7 innocents would have cleared exactly 50% of the town; I was waiting for that number to reveal :wall:

I'll do up some notes later, but for now, the list (in round order):
Kage
Andres
Sasaki
Lemur
Kommodus
Ichigo

[Crazed Rabbit]

Tee-hee!

I wrote to GH the night I offed Prole and Tiberius that we had to have gotten the real detective by then.

The reason for offing you was slightly on a whim; IIRC, you weren't gathering suspicion but weren't going to get WoG'd.



It was, of course, inevitable that it would become precisely that, due to its very nature.

Bah! I started it as a get out of jail free card for after I came under suspicion and had failed to argue my defense. It turned into an incrimination of me if I did not swear innocence at the slightest demand. :inquisitive:
It had become a ball and chain, and I'm glad it's gone, even if not completely, technically.

Funny thing, I've been mafioso four times, never lynched. Won three times, the other I was killed by a rival Mafia gang.

Yes, really just a one shot deal. But I think I used it well. And I'm going to be mafia hunting in GH's next games, so no one else survives. :evil:

CR

[Andres]

Bah. CR, to a certain degree, I can agree with you on not having lied, but these loopholes are too difficult to catch, so I won't take "The Truth" into consideration for future games anymore.

On the other hand: great game guys! You did very well.

Congratulations Crazed Rabbit and woad&fangs :bow:

Thnx for hosting this one, GH :bow:

[Stig]

Lessons learned:
Don't trust CR
Chuck Kommo in the bin
Go on instinct (as we got W&F that way)

[Beefy187]

Stop lynching Beefy maybe?:idea2:

Sorry ill stop saying this soon.. Just cant stop...:clown:

[Kommodus]

Lessons learned:
Don't trust CR
Chuck Kommo in the bin
Go on instinct (as we got W&F that way)

Meh. :shrug:

Just be careful of taking broad lessons from singular experiences. Any scientist will tell you that anecdotal evidence is untrustworthy.

CR is now no more or less trustworthy than the rest of us.

Holmes didn't exactly fail to catch CR, it just never got employed for that purpose. The mistake was purely mine - and I won't make it again.

Instinct can serve you well, when educated by experience. But I suspect that if we were to consider the broader statistical patterns of the game, clear reasoning and analysis would still prove more reliable.

[Kagemusha]

Congrats CR! Exellent game m8!:2thumbsup: You may have lost your trademark, but then you joined the club of GH mafia winners, not a big club after all.~;) Thanks for GH also from another classic, i havent played a game really in long time and i must say that i enjoyed this one immensely.:bow:

[Dutch_guy]

Well can't say I'm happy on how we lost the game. First of all the way Crazed managed to wiggle himself out of the Truth. As many have said, using such a small loophole is just a ingenious as it is far-fetched. You could have probably found a way to actually state you were a townie, and not lie in the process. But who are we kidding, we were all more than ready to believe him and we all did (even those who covered for themselves by stating 'he could be a mafioso !':wall: ). And in the end this game is one in which people do everything they can to deceive their adversaries, and that's exactly what happened.

That said, had Sapi not been killed and had he revealed this game could have ended an entirely different way. Kage being cleared along with Kommodus would have perhaps turned the tide after all, that is, not taking into consideration the mafioso's actions following Sapi's hypothetical reveal (IE the killing of him and his cleared townies).

Also, Kommodus, I find it quite strange you were so eager to believe in the Truth, and in Crazed's innocence, to actually not use Holmes on him. Surely you were open to the possibility Crazed might have decided to end with his trademark ? Would it have made a difference ? It might have, but it should go without mentioning that we probably would have second guessed your theory on CR anyway - at least I would have :wink:

All that said, congratulations to both mafioso ! You both played a great game, W&F and Crazed !

:balloon2:

[Stig]

Holmes didn't exactly fail to catch CR, it just never got employed for that purpose. The mistake was purely mine - and I won't make it again.
Hence why you ended up in the bin and Holmes didn't ~D

[Kommodus]

Also, Kommodus, I find it quite strange you were so eager to believe in the Truth, and in Crazed's innocence, to actually not use Holmes on him. Surely you were open to the possibility Crazed might have decided to end with his trademark ? Would it have made a difference ? It might have, but it should go without mentioning that we probably would have second guessed your theory on CR anyway - at least I would have :wink:

Well, call me gullible then. :shrug:

The notion that this might've been the moment CR decided to discard The Truth may have been present in the back of my mind, but it never came to the forefront.

I think it was just easier for me to believe he'd hold on to it for a while longer. With everyone else, I tend to scrutinize everything, asking myself a series of difficult questions. Are the statistics consistent with X's normal play? If not, what is the best explanation for the differences, and are they significant/indicative of a role? Do they match the "guilty" baseline (should one exist) or the "innocent" baseline? Are they even relevant given X's style of play? Most importantly, when reviewing the post history, can I identify any sort of strategy being employed? Even after answering all these questions to the best of my ability, I could never be certain - X might appear innocent in all the examinations, but still be guilty. In Mafia, anyone can say anything at all.

With CR it was simpler at one time: there was a simple, fool-proof method for determining guilt or innocence. In game after game, his word had proven irreproachable, and that gave a comforting feeling. With everyone else I was always wondering, but with CR, once he took his oath, it was true. Period. It was nice to be able to conclusively eliminate at least one person as a suspect.

Would it have made a difference had I exercised proper skepticism? Impossible to say after the fact. We'll have to find out in the next game.

[shlin28]

GG mafia, who killed me by the way?

[Crazed Rabbit]

I did, as W&F sadly was out of commission after being lynched.


The notion that this might've been the moment CR decided to discard The Truth may have been present in the back of my mind, but it never came to the forefront.

You had to know it was going to come eventually. The way you employed it I could never win a mafia game as mafia.

CR

[Dutch_guy]

Hmm GH, when can we expect a write up ?

Assuming your planning on making and posting one, that is.

:balloon2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

A few days.

Don't worry, it will be there, as always. :yes:

[woad&fangs]

I'll try do make a writeup for the first half tonight. I'll try to do the second half thursday.

[woad&fangs]

Here's my writeup through the 6th night phase. I'll finish my writeup at some point. If anyone has any questions about anything then don't hesitate to ask. I'll try to explain them in my writeup.

Night 1:
Me and CR did not communicate before we sent in our kill orders. He killed Sigurd for reasons still unknown to me. I chose to kill Pevergreen because he betrayed me in my first ever .Org mafia game. Also in a recent game one of Pever’s buddies stated that if they were ever mafia then they would kill each other off right away, so I tried to frame one of them.
Killed: Pevergreen, Sigurd Fafnesbane

Day 1:
Alright, time for Mafia 101. I knew that a Mafioso should try to act as much like his normal townie self as possible. This was rather hard for me sense I had had a role in almost all of my previous games. In addition to this I had drawn a lot of suspicion in those games. If I tried to lay low and not be chaotic then y’all would say I was suspicious because I wasn’t acting suspicious. Before I had received the PM I had made the descison to be a less chaotic townie so I decided to not be as chaotic as before. This was picked up on by GreaterKhaan less than one page into the discussion but since I expect it it didn’t faze me much. Since people seemed to believe me I felt a lot more confident about laying low for the rest of the game. I voted for Andres since he was the first to join the obviously stupid Don Corleone bandwagon.(and he still has that creepy monkey avatar.) I figured it would be nice to get rid of him early since I had a lot of respect for him as a mafia hunter. At about the halfway point in the day the people were mostly voting for either Sasaki or Don Corleone, then Sarathos showed up and his Lurker Pride!!! Post caused the lynch momentum to switch towards him. Towards the end of the round I made a small comment hinting that that Beefy and Andres were scummy.
Lynched: Sarathos

Night 2:
We actually communicated this round. We decided on the strategy of killing semi-active players. I figured that it had several advantages. 1) It would not give the townies much to analyze as to why the person died. 2)I was hoping that the combination of active posters with big personalities would cause the discussion to focus on each other while I quietly slipped by unnoticed. 3) I believe that killing off active posters just to win by lurking is a boring and annoying tactic that I am above using. CR killed Gacilaso De La Vega El Inca. I chose to kill Killfr3nzy with the hope that it would draw suspicion to Beefy who I had previously labeled as suspicious. I tried to start some sort of running story but I’m not the most creative person so, as you might have noticed, it was pretty bad.
Killed: Killfr3nzy, GvI

Day 2:
The first post was Sasaki once again using “Would you believe me if…”. The second post was Beefy stating that the mafia was trying to frame him and TB by killing his friends. Also, Sigurd noticed that the word “Bismark Doughnut” was used in the kill description. Apparently only Americans call them that. I guess you learn something new everyday. Y’all should have listened to him. I once again voted for Andres and FoS’d Beefy. Stig called me on some bad reasoning which started an annoying habit of him trying to get me lynched. Luckily the way he badgered me seemed to cause a lack of interest in voting for me. Oh, I just got to the part in the thread where Sasaki had a little “epiphany” Now, y’all have to remember that during the next few hours I was also seeing Appalachian State absolutely dismantle the University of Michigan so. Anyways, I was getting really confused and for some reason or another I temporarily forgot that I was a Mafioso. (hahhahha, I forgot to capitalize Mafioso but Mic. Word capitalized it for me.)(that’s called foreshadowing.) I sent a PM to GH asking if he knew what the hell was going on. After four people jumped on the Sasaki bandwagon I got really annoyed at the stupidity of the town. So I told everyone to stop voting for Sasaki and that he was the one player I was 100% sure was innocent. I voted for Disco as a joke since Michigan was losing. The Sasaki bandwagoned continued but there was still a sizable number number of votes on Andres and Husar from earlier. I voted for Husar because I thought that he would be a better lynch option than Sasaki.(I was still forgetting that I was a Mafioso.) Several people realized that Sasaki was just being annoying and changed their votes to Husar.
Lynched: Husar

Night 3:
I was really angry at Sasaki for all the bad will he had caused between people so I decided to kill him regardless of what CR thought. In the lynching scene, GH had described Husar in a similar fashion as CR’s Mafioso character so we decided to just use Mr. A.F.I.A. in an attempt to frame Husar.
Killed: Sasaki Kojiro, Byzantine Mercenary.

Day 3:
Nothing real amazing happened. It seems people agreed with my opinion of Andres and Beefy being the mafia as they were the top two vote getters this round. This was helped along nicely by Beefy’s talent at getting himself lynched.
Lynched: Beefy

Night 4:
I apparently wasn’t paying attention and the night phase got extended because I sent my orders in late. Also I didn’t have any time to come up with a Mr.A.F.I.A. kill so I made a random chicken one to try and Frame Andres. CR supplied the names of our victims and I chose Xdeathfire.
Killed: Xdeathfire, Warmaster Horus.

Day 4:
4 out of the first 6 posts contained votes for Andres so I joined in on the bandwagon. I even surrounded my vote with skull smileys. GH replied that he expected any unvotes by me to also be surrounded by skull smileys. I decided not to unvote him that round. 7 straight votes for Andres before Stig had to be all nonconformist and vote for me again. A Pannonian bandwagon was started but the early momentum against Andres proved to be too much. I was pretty happy with myself since I considered Andres to be one of the best players.
Lynched: Andres
Wog’d: Ignoramus, Festershinetop, Fragony

Night 5:
We continued our strategy of killing semi-active players. Once again, CR provided the names and I chose one of them to kill. I also slightly changed the story of Mr. A.F.I.A. I really don’t have a lot to tell about the night phases. Me and CR communicated very little.
Killed: Twighliteblade, Destroyer of Hope

Day 5:
Fairly quiet round until Kommodus revealed a preliminary scan of Holmes that pointed to Xiahou as mafia. Oddly, it did not indicate me as scummy I found this to be very odd since I had deliberately changed my playing style. Sasaki indicated that we should lynch Lemur(not sure about why). Since Sasaki was a confirmed innocent and there was suspicion against Lemur for the last couple of rounds he ended up getting lynched.
Lynced: Lemur

Night 6:
Once again, CR provided the names and I chose one to kill. I chose GK as revenge for him being the first person to vote for me. Also, Don Corleone got fed up with the attacks on his character and suicided.

Day 6:
Gawd Stig, why were you so convinced I was a mafioso?! Again he opened the round by voting for me. Sigurd asked in the thread about why I "knew" Sasaki was innocent. Both me and Rabbit drew some votes but people followed "holmes" and lynched Xiahou.
Lynched: Xiahou

Night 7:
This is when I started getting Pms from Sigurd asking if I was the detective. We decided that if I was threatened with a lynch it might be useful but not to worry about it otherwise. I decided not to reply to Sigurd because if I really was the detective that is what I would have done. We continued with the strategy of killing semi lurkers. Crazed Rabbit chose Tran and sapi. I chose to murder sapi. I had no idea that he was the detective. I got a bit arrogant with his death and decided to have him drinking an Appletini. Seriously, how did no one catch that? My sig is quote from Scrubs.
Killed: Tran, sapi

Day: 7
This one started off bad. People wanted the "truth" from CR. I told him that this might be a good time for my fake reveal but it would have been a big risk if the detective was still alive. Luckily, he had a few loopholes up his sleeve so I didn't have to do anything rash. When I noticed that some people were unconvinced of CRs innocence so I also argued that he might be lying..... And then Ichigo had to come in and ruin all my fun. I was tired and frustated from RL that night so I lost my sensibility and started viewing Ichigos profile and generally being rather annoying. When I logged off and went to sleep there was five people with one vote a piece. GH extended the round. I figured that since GH was a student that I would have a little bit of time when I got home from school to plead my case if needed. I came home for lunch that day and logged on real quick to see what was happening. Apparently a few minutes earlier Stig had voted for me, breaking the tie and resulting in my lynching in the middle of the day with two votes. Seriously, GH, weren't you supposed to be in school at the time? I also discovered an interesting Pm from Sigurd. He told me to use a code he provided and place it in my sig to tell who was guilty. I figured that since I was dead I might as well do it. I varied it slightly by posting it in my location and the coded players were who I said was innocent. I think I said Sasaki, Stig, Pannonian, and a bunch of random dead players. I figured that my little prank would be discovered and either Pann or Stig would get lynched for it. Also, I assumed that the "truth" would be enough to save CR.
Lynched: Me :bigcry:

[RoadKill]

Any reason why you didn't kill me?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Probably because you were so very suspicious.

CR

[Pannonian]

Bump so the writeup people won't forget.

[woad&fangs]

updated it through my lynching.

[Csargo]

I got a bit arrogant with his death and decided to have him drinking an Appletini. Seriously, how did no one catch that? My sig is quote from Scrubs.

~;)

[Beefy187]

Heh least i got a talent that i can be proud of.:laugh4:

and 5 percent of the random rambling about someone trying to frame me was true:2thumbsup:

[Pannonian]

Bump in case GH has forgotten about the writeup. It's been 2 weeks since it ended.

[CountArach]

He said he is really busy IRL and as such has decided to give up Mafia for a little so he can write this.

[Pannonian]

Bump for teh writeup.

[Dutch_guy]

Well then, another bump for the write up :beam:

:balloon2:

[woad&fangs]

I think I'm done with my writeup. After my lyching the rest of the game kind of went like this- Majority of people believe CR, majority of people were wrong, Coast to Victory.

[Kommodus]

Right, it's the game host's writeup we're still waiting on. ~;)

[woad&fangs]

Yep, I'm still waiting for his writeup also. I really want to see it.

[shlin28]

Me too! :beam: