Really now? At what point did I not have the towns "best interests" at heart? And you suddenly jump on me right along with GH? Oh, how convenient, An easy 2 vote lynch. Nonetheless, my vote stays on GH.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
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Really now? At what point did I not have the towns "best interests" at heart? And you suddenly jump on me right along with GH? Oh, how convenient, An easy 2 vote lynch. Nonetheless, my vote stays on GH.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Errr.... no...Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
If I wanted the easy lynch I would have voted for GH, who is well ahead of you in votes. I genuinely believe that trying to guide the blocker is scummy - you could be trying to guide them away from yourself and a scumbuddy.
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Sorry, I am being lazy today, and I am also trying to do a write-up for my mafia game, so I will conceded that GH has (more?) votes then me. Vote for me then, I can then pay less attention to this game until Andres finalizes the write up - I have tons of other things (Mafia game hosting, LotR, Diplomacy, Writing, College, Combat Arms, etc.) to occupy me, and is the main reason I have not been very busy in the thread.
Despite all the attacks I've undergone this round, I think YLC is the only one who's lodged a vote against me, funnily enough. :laugh4:
Yeah, that's my fault for not thinking the game through enough and for making a U-turn on you. There just wasn't enough time left in this day phase for everyone to get back on and read my absurdly long posts. However, I'd be preparing for a lot of heat tomorrow if I were you. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Voting concluded.
Stand by for execution.
The Scourge of Ephesus - Day 7 - Conclusion
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Ephesus - The Prytaneion - 8.00 pm
The tourists started to discuss.
Some voices could be heard whispering in the air: “Do not lynch him, I strongly urge you to lynch that other guy, nonono, disregard that, lynch the guy I said you absolutely should not lynch at first…”
The tourists concerned started to yell against each other and, strangely enough, against the wind.
The other tourists seemed to pick up the sounds and started to point their finger at those named by the voices. The tourists named by the odd metallic and boo-ing voice started to sweat and they defended themselves against the accusations vigorously.
All of the sudden, Caius jumped up and he pushed aside a few tourists. He gave the old man a kick and grabbed his gun.
“I can’t take this any longer!” Caius yelled. “The horror, the killings, those sounds, the lynchings, the strange accidents. I want to get out of here!”
Caius put the gun in his mouth and fired a shot. He died instantly.
“Ok, ok, enough of this already,” an aggressive tourist said and he grabbed the gun out of Caius’ hands.
“You there,” he said, pointing the gun at CountArach. "It seems like you have the most votes."
CountArach looked very pale and his voice trembled when he said: “So it seems indeed.”
“Any last wish?” the aggressive tourist said.
“Well, I really love that local liquor they have here,” Rakı”. And I would also love to hear that popular Turkish singer one more time. What’s his name… Tarkan!”
“You really like that rubbish song?”
CountArach shrugged.
“Oh well then,” the aggressive tourist said and he took his mp3-player and gave it to CountArach.
Another tourist gave him a bottle of Rakı.
CountArach took the bottle, drank from it and pushed the play button of the mp3 player.
At the tones of Tarkan he continued emptying the bottle of Rakı.
He hardly noticed how the aggressive tourist pointed the gun at him and ended his life with a single bullet in the back of his head.
The shooter put away the gun and turned to the gathered tourists.
“Time to go to sleep.”
The old man added: “I hope this nightmare will be over now…”
“Shut up, you fool!”
The tourists walked away.
Night fell over Ephesus. Again…
***
Tally:
CountArach : 3 (Ibn-Khaldun, Lord Winter, glyphz) :skull:
YLC: 2 (GeneralHankerchief, CountArach)
Yoyoma1910 : 1 (187Beefyz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (Chaotix27)
Abstain: 2 (Yoyoma, Seamus)
Not voting: 3 (boudica, CountArach, Caius)
***
Alive (10)
boudica
GeneralHankerchief
187Beefyz
Chaotix27
YLC
Yoyoma1910
Ibn-Khaldun
Lord Winter
Glyphz
Seamus Fermanagh
Killed (9) :
777Ares777
TheFlax
White_Eyes :D
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Quintus.JC
woad&fangs
shlin28
El Diablo
Lynched (7) :
TinCow
Tevashzat
FactionHeir
Jolt
Sigurd
seireikhaan
CountArach
WoG/Suicide (4):
Rythmic
Ignoramus
Tiberius of the Drake
Caius
It's now night. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.
Well, the aggressive tourist directing the lynch does help out my theory of shifting lynch directors that have nothing to do with death.
Nice job bandwagoning a townie...
Will you please die?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Honestly, if I was still alive, I would have investigated GH by now, and even if he was innocent (unlikely) I would have killed him because of Reenkness 201...
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Best come back ever :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
No, way is GH innocent he had too much time to role-block everyone and not come up with something......Town is eating out of his hand....:no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Oh yeah, every single round I fight off the vultures and barely survive a lynch, of course they're eating out of my hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
And I already explained, there are too many variations on nighttime activities for anyone to conclusively know how successful I've been.
Really? Your total inability to do anything to keep ATPG alive seems pretty conclusive to me. Or are you still choosing to ignore that little flaw in your story?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Dude, I'm as clueless as you.
Tincow:
GH began pm'ing me with the names of those receiving his attentions on a given night at the time he indicates. His stated reason was to have me able (providing I was not myself killed) to share those names with the town should he be killed. GH claimed to have posted the same PM to Andres as to me so that Andres would be aware it was legit for me to refer to it. The names were always provided to me in advance of Andres posting.
I am still at a loss to explain the beast image at my near-killing or the link to John the Divine. The only link between a beast and St. John is the Apocalypto (Revelations)....and I'm not sure where to take that one.
I cannot confirm GH's intent in sending me the PM info, only the intention he stated to me.
Here is the text of Andres' PM to me following N7.
Quote:
Ephesus - N 7
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You were wandering around the temple of Artemis.
Something appeared and scared the out of you.
"What was that?" you wonder. "It didn't seem... human..."
Be afraid, tourist, be very afraid...
***
An old man calms you down and takes you with him. He wants to show you something, he says.
He takes you to a secret hiding place and starts talking to you. He tells you several stories. They are boring and you fall asleep.
Andres.
In retrospect, the *** DOES imply that GH's taking me to a hiding place did NOT protect me from the supernatural event.
I'm still at a loss to explain all of this.
For the love of Andres, it's time to put a stop to GeneralHankerchief.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I have done a serious analysis of the game. People, I KNOW you just endured a whole lot of analysis. Please be patient and listen to mine, I beg of thee.
In spoilers for neatness.
My mafia game analysis system has revealed the following players are suspect:
GeneralHankerchief: Suspect Number One
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Chaotix: Suspect Number Two
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Boudica: Suspect Number ThreeSpoiler Alert, click show to read:
187Beefyz: Suspect Number Four:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Beefy can redeem himself in my eyes by working with the better townies to kill the suspects above him. Otherwise, I deem him useless (in this game. nothing personal Beefy. Nothing personal ANYONE. I loves you all!)
Borderline:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Questionable but ok:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I haven't gone in depth, I only gave you the results. I wish to keep the LENGTHY reasons why each person is scummy, borderline, and townie to myself. believe or disbelieve, it's your choice.
TinCow is right, GH needs to die.
The above analysis is pre-"recent deaths" and may be amended shortly. EDIT: Checked, and confirmed townies only were lynched. System is working so far...
GH, Chaotix, Boudica, Beefy: If you truly are townie, and want to prove it to me, don't vote anymore except for the other three.
From your votes which failed to nab the baddies, from your misleading analyses so far, from your failure to block the mafia properly after all this time, from the fact that you're still alive, I'd say that you are correct. Had you nailed one mafia so far, I might be able to believe you. If your hands were clean, I might. If you agreed with anything I've said so far... If, if, if.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I wish death upon you in this game. Join me in the netherworld, my friend.
:skull:
Eh, hm, huh... :stupido3:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Like the one I did for Taormina?
Lazy Andres!
:creep: :whip:
I love you too ATPG.. No matter how cruel you are :yes:
-Not enough contribution
Well I tried. And this is my best..
-Voting for you twice in the beginning
First one was a random vote. One for you being in the middle of the sign up list and two because I prefer kebabs over Pizza. Second one was a resting vote until I find a better option. But I couldn't make it to change the vote because of the different time zone.
-Calls for Kommodus
I didn't call for him. I just said I miss him. Player leaving the gameroom is not a pleasant thing. Thus why I was happy for Gaius and takas return along with other vets.
-Over use of smilies
:sweatdrop: Its how I post. I don't see how that leads to mafia activities
-Lurks
My activity is yes.. rather low. But I still posted everyday. I normally only post on the morning (GMT+9) checks the gameroom. Front room. Backroom. Diplomacy. EB forum. Gameroom again. Facebook. Gameroom. Sports news. Gameroom. Study then EB. EB normally gets me to lunch. Afternoon I usually go biking for fitness, studies again, then finally gets back to gameroom. Then dinner. Then TV. If the TV is boring then gameroom.
I don't lurk. I just don't check the gameroom often after the morning sesh
-Overly defensive
Am I? I thought I got rid of that..
-Blindly trusts GH
I did get a pm on the night when GH claimed to have protected me or whatever he does. Old man telling boring story. Then I fell or sleep. That night all three kills were on I believe. Which clears me. And I cannot see how Roleblocker can also be a mafia. I've never seen such thing in other mafias before. With only couple more lynching oppotunities available, I think leaving GH gives us the best chance.
-Being a crappy townie and all
Cannot agree more. While I was thankful for the nomination in the best gameroom player, I really don't think I deserve it.
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Now that I got that done. I have to disagree with most of the things you said.
Firstly TinCow was lynched. While he makes a plausible theories, he might be mafia. He might be manipulating us.
Secondly, I havn't read all the posting before CAs lynch because I was doing other stuff. But from what I recall, three players bandwagoned CA without much reasoning. One of them is Ibn-khaldun. Yes he havn't dominated discussions. But he followed a easy bandwagon. For me that is much more scummy.
I tried. And I voted Yoyoma. Yes it was a crap theory. Yes I shouldn't have played migration campaign to Messalia and get bored and started another KH campaign, spamming Spartans before the lynch write ups. And if this is overly defensive for you, just lynch me. I have failed the town and for that, I deserve death.
EDIT: And there is no way I am helping to lynch GH or boudica.
No, that's not scummy. I followed TC's long analysis and it seemed that CA is guilty. And bandwagoning part? It's how townies behave. I think you watch movies. In movies it takes only one person to create an angry mob to kill someone. That's how people work. Give them a good reason(or not that good, it doesn't matter) and they will lynch someone. ~:)Quote:
One of them is Ibn-khaldun. Yes he havn't dominated discussions. But he followed a easy bandwagon. For me that is much more scummy.
Shush you.. I needed something to counter him :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
Ill go read what actually happened now.
Beefy, I am not 100% on you. That's why you're 4th on the list.
If you redeem yourself by helping the living townies get the ones above you on the list, I think we can risk it. You deserve a win as mafia anyways, right? LOL
Depending on how the chips fall, we may have to lynch you anyway. But I would encourage you to follow my advice, no matter how "cruel" I've been. You know I have great respect for you, but if you ever were mafia, your behavior this game would exemplify it, from what I know of you.
Convince me otherwise. Help town get the REAL scumbags.
EDIT: AND YOURE NOT A CRAPPY TOWNIE. This game's performance was spotty at best, but you do well elsewhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy
Never going after GH or Boudica???
EXPLAIN WHY PLEASE. Defending these two after their (forgive me) bad performance... what do you know, and can you prove it?
If you don't give reasons, I will be sure you're mafia.
Well.. I have my letter of will written way back in night 4 so I'm ready to go. For the sake of the town, I really really hope I get killed rather then lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You won't be killed, you're a suspect. Thats why your vote counts so much.
You need to explain why you're pro-GH and pro-boudica. Without reasons, it's scummy defense of scummy people.
GH because I just can't see how role blocker can be a mafia. If GH is the old man, who loves the island then yes I can see how he gets angry for some scum destroying artifacts. Yes I can see how dirty we tourists can be. But old man, protects tourists. tells them tales about the island. That means old man loves tourists. And don't want all the bloody mess going on, and tourists choosing to avoid the little place for ever.
Sloppy. I know. If old man wants the tourists to die then why take them to secret location. Tell them boring tales then let them go un harmed?
sorry its dinner time. Ill explain more when im back
Bad Beefy.
You're repeating the old defenses of GH (not adding anything new)
You're ignoring new evidence (his lynch targets appear to all be innocent, his survival, his obscenely powerful, yet strangely ineffective skill... etc. List goes on and on.)
You're giving excuses for not contributing more.
If this pattern continues, I'm putting you higher on the list, my friend. :whip:
:medievalcheers:
*ahem* Just interjecting here a bit with something I caught from the previous game. Manfredo, the SK/mafia last game, was able to investigate two people per night. Just a coincidence? I think not, hosts like to keep some continuity with their roles per game.
My accusation of GH could come to a screeching halt if this is the case.
I stated before I thought Manfredo could potentially be useful to town. And GH is an "old man", is he not? Manfredo is old, is he not? The abilities are the same, are they not?
He hasn't demonstrated pro-town alignment to me, though. He's still a dangerous man.
Well I will not vote for GH next phase. Possibly the last round depending on how things roll. Im still not convinced that GH is the mafia.
boudica ceased all activities for couple days. Both mafia and diplomacy. I'm willing to believe her reasoning for the RL
WIFOM as this may sound, but if I am the mafia, I would just accept your reasoning and go for a easy bandwagon.
3 shooters left. Not all players on your side are going to be innocent ATPG.
Beefy, both you and GH surviving to the end, as top suspects, will make it too late in my estimation. By then it won't MATTER if we lynch GH.
I still await your reasons WHY. I'm a curious man, I need to know WHY you're doing this.
Your scum scent is getting stronger.
Hah great. More I speak, more I get scummier.
I will only lynch claimed pro town at the very end, just for the sake of saying "hah you didn't trick me"
and say if GH was a mafia. Good we lynch a mafia. Theres still 2 killers roaming around. We got 2 more lynching opportunities. Why not, kill one of the suspect. Hope that his the mafia. If the game doesn't end, we lynch GH on the final round. That way GH or other buddies can hopefully kill each other.
Beefy, I like you, I respect you, and I generally trust your instincts too.
You haven't demonstrated proper reasoning as to why not GH. WHY not GH. I understand you don't want him dead this round. The only reason I can suspect is because he's your favorite little mafia buddy.
If you can demonstrate alternative reasoning, please do so now.
Because we are screwed. The towns are screwed. Two lynch opportunities. Three killers. The only chance we have is let the mafia kill each other. Hopefully we get one of the other mafias. And leave GH The "Definitely" mafia for the final round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Lynch me this round if you like. but if GH is mafia, we can't let him die. If he is protown. Even more so, we can't let him die.
Both ways, we are probably screwed.
Doom and Gloom? FROM YOU, BEEFY?
I cannot believe my eyes. Nothing rattles you. How could you possibly dishonour yourself by conceding so soon?
I really hope this was a typo.Quote:
but if GH is mafia, we can't let him die
Ummm you're not my top suspect, and I can't lynch anyone. Why would we lynch you this late in the game if you're a townie? Your logic doesn't add up, and it smells of WIFOM.Quote:
Lynch me this round if you like
You haven't adequately explained why GH needs to live, and why you defend him here so vehemently. If we are probably screwed anyway, then it doesn't matter.
If you give up, suicide. If you're interested in town winning the game, either abstain, or give me a GOOD reason we need GH alive.
Because it raises our chance.
If GH is a mafia, he can go off kill each other. If he is not then his the role blocker.
I much rather if no one lynched me. I beg you to trust me for raising the possibility of victory. Lettinh GH live seems to be the only possible way to win as there is 2 more rounds and 3 killers.
I see what you're saying and I disagree wholeheartedly.
Because I feel your argument is unsound, and your motivations suspect, I cannot condone your suggested course of action.
I feel you may actually be GH's partner, from your unwavering and unfounded support of him. Chaotix has going for him that he hasn't come forward begging for GH's life after his bizarre role and never-been-killed status.
I could be doing him a favor, you know. If he is really a roleblocker, the other scums may keep him alive as a suspect. No matter what he is, my accusations of him help town, you know.
Am I the only one out here who gets this? I know I am not, several of you have indicated you don't like that GH is still alive.
The old many says he protects tourists, but doesn't actually do so. He didn't do anything to protect ATPG, and Seamus' most recent post with his night result PM indicates that he didn't do anything to protect Seamus either. So, GH claims he is a doctor. His targets have been attacked TWICE at night while he was supposed to be protecting them, yet his role does absolutely nothing to protect them, resulting in ATPG's death and Seamus being possessed or whatever that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by 187Beefyz
We also have no evidence whatsoever that GH has ever even role blocked anyone. With the exception of the first night, kills/attacks have continued exactly as we expected them to. Two attacks per night from the digging duo and the random other one from Manfredo/vigilante/athlete/The Punisher/Batman/Manbat. Thus, GH has spent 7 nights targetting TWO people per night, yet there is no proof that he has ever successfully blocked anyone and conclusive proof that he FAILED to protect two people who were attacked while he should have been protecting them.
Ignore the above at your peril.
[edit] I will add this: even if GH is truly pro-town and clueless as to why the above has occurred, as he claims, lynching him is still the right move. Imagine any other player saying the same things GH is saying. Would GH advocate to keep them alive? No, he would not. He would move to lynch them, because the information indicates something fishy and something fishy is never good for the town.
He did protect me. And if pm quoting is allowed I would post it here.
And more I defend for him, more GH gets scumier so he survives anyway.
Be notified, I've played mafia number of time. And I think I know mafia strategy. Stay off your partner. Fight him, duel him, vote for him. But never defend for him. Never gather attention. Never fight against main stream opinion.
Unless im a uber mafia who breaks all the usual mafia tactics... Heh.. That was so embarrassing for me to say.
At this point, I cannot use anything but WIFOM to defend my self.
Tincow, in spite of our delightful sparring in another game, :medievalcheers: I agree wholeheartedly.
You know your stuff, and it is clear to me that we cannot corroborate GH's supposed "most valuable townie" skill at all. And if he were so valuable to town and dangerous to the mafia, he'd be long dead by now.
If he had a REAL role, the scums would have been seriously blocked.
Q- What about the nights they were supposedly blocked? Hmmmm???
A- WHY didn't GH follow up on that and block the same people twice, thus ensuring they were mafia and preventing needless townie deaths?
Conclusion: GH is intentionally leading town to the grave.
Rebuttal? Explanations? Beefy, care to continue being apologetic for him?
Don't confuse me with an ally, ATPG. The nature of your death write-up makes me think you were scum of some kind. However, you still should have been protected by GH.
(As noted many times by many people, the above is said exclusively in the context of the game.)
How well I know that people cannot blindly trust me.
However, if I could beg everyone's attention for one small moment:
How many people died in the writeups in a potentially incriminating way? How many claimed to have been framed?
I wasn't keeping track, but it was a lot, if I recall.
I don't ask for blind trust. I simply ask for the arguments to be reasonable, and for people to be open minded enough to consider them. Vigilance is what I'd expect... from a townie of Tincow's stripe.
:bow:
Long shot, but mafia was hoping GH to be lynched a long time ago. Suspect of the mafia is those who pushed for GHs death for long time now. Killing him now will confirm his innocence.
Or GH has a special role to be immune from mafia attacks.
This is not very traditional mafia is it? Anything is possible.
I get what you mean. If we don't lynch GH now, even if we kill GH in the final round, he could win and it is too late.
We lynch him next round. Good job. We still have 2 more roaming around. Blind. Don't know who to lynch.
Better if we have less suspects with more kills. Number of opportunity to lynch we get is the same isn't it?
EDIT: Shower time, battery low and TVs on. My apologies but this will be my final response for this phase. Ill see you when I wake up
Now that your defense of GH has failed, and you've grudgingly agreed he will be lynched today, Beefy:
Why, after that heroic attempt at a defense, shouldn't we lynch you immediately afterward? Desperate mafioso sometimes sacrifice one of their own to keep the other alive.
I suspect that you're GH's partner. I will be thoroughly checking the thread to see if you've ever seriously gone after him. I don't expect you to vote for him, and even if you do, know that it does not exonerate you in my eyes.
Did anyone read this? This is the proof that once the guys are asleep, his character comes out of the cave to kill someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
I admit I did not fully consider that possibility, but I had oodles of reasons for going after GH already.
I noted you were probably innocent because of your willingness to go after him, in spite of his "invaluable" "townie" ability.
No guys, I just thought of the answer!
Don't you get it:
Pizza, who was likely innocent, was killed by the VIGILANTE!
He was killed by the sword. GH couldn't protect him because it was a protown hit!
It all makes sense now.
I am innocent, and from what YLC told me in private, it was the vigilante who killed me.
But I didn't really have reasons for trusting him, and he said he did not know who the vigilante was, or that the vigilante somehow was able to contact him but he didn't know who he was.
I can verify that it was alleged I was killed by vigilante, and if I was killed by the blade (if I recall... the games are blending together now...) then it was so I think.
I still do not think GH is innocent, because the mafia would/should have killed him by now, or GH should have blocked the mafia, one night, and then repeated the next night.
He's not bad at this game, he's the freakin' master. How he would miss such an obvious strategy is beyond me.... wait! No, it's not. He could be... yes... scum!
Well, they did try to kill him.
As far as I am aware, nearly every single protection role that has ever been written for mafia games makes 'doctor' abilities work against any attacker, regardless of alignment. There is nothing whatsoever in GH's role PM that indicates he is anything other than a bland old boring combo role blocker and doctor. If we're just going to discard what we know about how roles work, when there is no evidence to the contrary, next time I fake a role PM I'll be the Magic Fairy Pixie Dust Monkey who can bestow all powers in the Known World on others, but has no idea which powers will be given, who they will be given to, and whether they will even work. When you then try to lynch me for being mafioso scum, I will claim innocence by being unable to explain my Strange But Awesome Powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
http://fun-pics.com/killer_monkey.jpg
There are many variations of "doctor" roles.
It is possible that a protown role would not be able to prevent another protown role.
Do you think the possibility that this is true is strong enough to overcome all of the evidence against GH?
Anyway, it would really depend on the Vigilante role, and not the doctor.
Occam's Razor, please.
The simplest solution to this entire mess is right in front of your eyes. GH is mafia, and has been fortunate enough to be bestowed upon him a role with which to convince you otherwise.
Occam can shove his razor up his toenail.
Do you have a better option? Forgive me, but I didn't see your suggestion that has an objectively higher chance of success, if I did I would endorse it.
You know, I may come off as an arrogant smarty-pants, (I don't mean to) but I do listen. If you guys have better leads, I will follow you / offer my support.
Followers and supporters are not what is needed at this moment.
We need strong critical analysis and creative thinking.
If you're saying, "Well, this can't possibly be how it happened," then you're possibly throwing out the evidence.
If we can get a broader view, then we can come to precision from it. If we start with a small view, then we will miss.
So what? A Vigilante couldn't be able to surpass blocking abilities?
...........
So what if GH is Mafia? It's possible, yes, but who's the other one? Figure that out. That's who we need to catch. GH might seem an obvious choice, and maybe he's the Oswald. I don't know. Who's the guy on the grassy knoll?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=738
I have other options here, and I can go in-depth as to why they reek in greater detail.
However, your aggressive defense of GH is pondersome. I'm actually curious as to your alignment, still-alive dude who I feel is borderline.
:wink:
I commend you for the above statements and agree with you. If we can find some solid evidence about another mafioso, I would not oppose lynching them over GH. However, it really does need to be pretty solid. If we're faced with a wishy-washy lynch based on nothing more than posting style, we're seriously risking lynching a townie. At this late stage of the game, we shouldn't do that. GH should be lynched unless there is some actual solid evidence about someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
I do support switching the discussion away from GH. I feel like the evidence has been presented against him in full. Hammering on it further isn't very useful. Better to discuss the remaining people, since we've definitely got more than one mafioso left.
Agreed. The case has been made by several peoples against GH.
I would like to discuss Chaotix, Boudica and beefy. I laid out a basic case against them, not in the most poetic style, but I have time to discuss any or all 3 of them, and anyone else.
I analyzed EVERY SINGLE POST of EVERY SINGLE LIVING PLAYER. It is all stored on my computer in a separate file for each person, all their activity, scumminess, etc, is there to be discussed.
I hesitate to post my analysis while it is still night time.
I would prefer to wait, or give my results to someone. Tincow perhaps.
Please, I will have to go.... I would like someone to post my findings for me when daylight comes.
You can't send anything to me, I'm dead. And so are you.
Dangit! That's right. *Fiddlesticks*
I tried to post a :daisy: but some of the curse word still slipped out :laugh4:
Grrr.... how much longer might I have to wait? I want to unload this puppy.
I have no choice. I cannot wait here for another 7 hours.
I need this to at least be put out there.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Sorry about the mess... it was really intended to be notes for just myself, and not for public consumption.
:shame:
Each of these people had a 50-parameter mafia database search pattern before the analysis you see here. I choose not to reveal that search pattern, as revealing the parameters of that search will damage future results and make it a less effective tool.
I can give VERY specific reasons why I feel this way about everyone here. You either have to trust me or form your own decisions, because I doubt we can cover all the suspects before I leave.
And some of the people I thought were town? Yeah they were deaded by the time I got here. And they WERE town.
Excuse me?!?
I followed through on the statue! I sat around and did 6 hours of research.
I even posted some general info up on here.
But nobody payed attention, or asked me for additional information.
You're too busy posting your egos.
I'm terribly sorry, but can you show me which posts were an in-depth analysis of the statue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
As I said, this was not intended for public consumption, so if I made an error or made a comment that sounded like it should have stayed in my head, well... :shrug:
Apologies if I was wrong, but I didn't read anywhere anything conclusive about the statue. Link please.
Yeah, as soon as you pay me the $180 worth of time I wasted. Otherwise, you can go dig for it.
And no, it's not going to be in depth, as stated. I posted general information. Nobody responded or asked for more, so I let it go. I'm not going to post a book on here if no one wants to read it. That's just spam, kid.
Well, if you disagreed with my comment, the onus is on you to post proof that I am wrong.
Can anyone else corroborate his claim to have been helpful? I honestly did NOT see anything that useful. And I did read each of his posts. I do make mistakes though, and I can't remember all this, and thats why I write things down.
I don't see you being helpful. Just filling up pages.
And I don't have to prove anything.
Anyway, lynch me. I'm done.
I tell you what...
It's tied to one of the great wonders of the ancient world
Those things on the side are animals
Those things around the chest are possibly many breasts, bull testicles, or some sort of satchel. The style of this decoration can be dated back to the Geometric period...
Figure it out from there.
Bye... WOG or LYNCH, your choice.
Not being helpful?
Ok maybe you disagree with my analysis, maybe you're not having fun, whatever the case may be, and I'm sorry if I've offended you, but... I gave an honest attempt at analyzing the living players thus far. You aren't my top suspect but you aren't someone I fully trust either.
It's not like you to quit. And if you're townie you shouldn't ask to be lynched at this late hour. Talk to the game host about being WOG'ed or replaced, if it's that serious, I suggest.
I know that these games can grate on people's nerves, but I hope we're still cool. It's nothing personal, it's just a game. We've had fun in other games. Sometimes we get put in an adversarial position and thats no one's fault.
You take points away from people because they have the nerve to defend themselves. The audacity! As a townie, it is your duty to do everything you can to avoid the lynch, since you know it's a wasted round. You say you analyzed one of my games; I'm assuming it's Mafia VIII since it's the most recent.
If you did read that game, you should remember Kagemusha, who faced immense pressure. When the final round came along, Kage was the only clear-cut lynch target. Did he lie down and take it? Of course not! He fought like a wildcat to stay alive, and eventually the town lynched the right person and won the game! Had Kage abided by your definitions of scumminess and pro-townieness, the mafia would have won.
Wonka walks are best enjoyed before eating a 5 cheese and pepperoni pizza. Maybe with a nice Chianti.
The Scourge of Ephesus - Night 8 - Conclusion
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The Ancient City of Ephesus - 2.00 am
Yoyoma1910 couldn't sleep that night and decided to go for a walk.
After taking a few pictures, Yoyoma1910 carefully looked around and noticed nobody was there.
Yoyoma1910 started to giggle, looked around for one more time and then started do jump and make some very silly walks.
A man, lurking in the shadows saw Yoyoma1910 giggling and walking very strangely.
"You seem to have no worries. Remarkable, under the circumstances."
Yoyoma1910 looked embarassed.
"Oops! Seems like you caught me. Well, I blame being under a lot of stress lately. I just came up with this crazy idea of walking silly and well, ... Oh, at least it made me laugh. It's been ages since I've been laughing!"
Yoyoma1910 smiled.
The man looked confused.
"People are dying and you are having fun?"
"Ehm," Yoyoma1910 looked very embarassed now. "Well, yes. But to change the subject, do you like pizza? I do! I adore pizza! Especially the ones with cheese, or pepperoni. Yes, those are delicious."
The man pointed his gun at Yoyoma1910.
"Oh, that's rude, pointing that gun at me and all that. So, this is how you thank me for bringing joy in this horrible place? How ungrateful! And I was just thinking about asking you to go eat pizza with me after this mess would be over. Now, now, now. I would have paid for the pizza and the wine! And maybe some musicians. You like music, do you? Put that gun away, will you? This is really not the behaviour I expected from a gentlema..."
Two soft popping sounds could be heard and Yoyoma1910's skull got penetrated by two bullets.
The man put away his gun and lights a cigarette. He leaves the scene, shaking his head in disbelief.
It was hot that night. Very hot. And thus, it seemed unnatural to have an ice cold wind suddenly blowing over the Ancient site of Ephesus.
Some woke up because of the cold. It seemed to come from the Hadrianus temple.
Others meant they could hear words being whispered by the wind.
"You will die... You will all die... Die..."
One moment, the ice cold wind and the whispering was there, the other moment, it was gone.
Many a tourist felt a shiver going down their spine.
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The Scourge of Ephesus - Day 8
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The gate of Augustus - 8.00 am
The tourists gathered near the gate of Augustus.
The old man looked around. Only 9 of them were left. He started to shake.
The aggressive tourist pointed his gun at the old man.
"Why are you shaking? Afraid to die?"
The man shrugged and put away the gun again.
Some other tourists walked to the ancient gate. They were carrying the body of Yoyoma1910.
"Dead, bullets in the head." one of them said, stating the obvious.
The tourists stared at each other.
"Guess we'll have to vote again?" one of them asked.
The others nodded.
It would be a very hot day today...
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Alive (9)
boudica
GeneralHankerchief
187Beefyz
Chaotix27
YLC
Ibn-Khaldun
Lord Winter
Glyphz
Seamus Fermanagh
Killed (10) :
777Ares777
TheFlax
White_Eyes :D
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Quintus.JC
woad&fangs
shlin28
El Diablo
Yoyoma1910
Lynched (7) :
TinCow
Tevashzat
FactionHeir
Jolt
Sigurd
seireikhaan
CountArach
WoG/Suicide (4):
Rythmic
Ignoramus
Tiberius of the Drake
Caius
It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.
I blocked Seamus and YLC. Didn't let anyone know. Only one kill attempt tonight. I trust Seamus. You do the math.
Vote: YLC
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Originally Posted by Andres
See, I was innocent.
Anyone want pizza?
I was put to sleep by Mr. Boring again. Nothing esle of note happened.
No time to analyze now, but I want to review the patterns of GH's protections and the number of kills. One of TinCow's posts addressed this, and I'll update it and review.