Girls hate my muscles, GAH!!!!

Eat breakfast. You're depriving your body by not doing so.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Nothing that was worth anything ever came easy.

---

how about winning the lottery? :clown: (not easy to win, but if you do win its easy, hmmmm, ill have to ponder on that one)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

I'd be more than happy to.

Great, thanks.

Ok, body type first, involves less typing, im 5"9.5 (yes that .5 matters!) 11 stone/154 pounds. Body shape best described as slightly skinny (possibly just under average) fairly defined/toned though... whats best described as an almost six pack... arms and legs have decent sized muscles (for my size at least)

Hmm, diet...

Don't usually eat breakfast, unless i didn't eat the previous day...

Main Meals:
Chicken Curry, home made with peppers onions and mushrooms
Pizza, usually with pepporoni and green and red peppers
Salmon and Noodles, with cheese melted on and a decent bit of garlic
Southern Fried Chicken, 2 pieces usually with 4 pieces of bread and a bit of ketchup
Beef burgers, as above, with melted cheese
Spaghetti Bolognese, peppers, onions, tomato, mushroom and a bit of cheese melted on
Tuna Bake, Tuna, Potato, crisps and some melted cheese
Sausages, Gravy, onions, potato and crisps

On an average day with that main meal ill have a few handfuls of grapes, an orange, a bowl or 2 of cereal (recently quite a sweet sugary one but sometimes shreddies) and averaged over the week probably a choclate bar and a pack of salt and vinegar crisps...

To drink ill usually have squash perhaps about 2-3 litres a day, probably drink about 2-4 litres of coke through the week and about a litre of banana milkshake, trying to drink more water starting today though!

I think thats about it... any other information you want ?

---

Alright. First lets start with what you gave me.

1. Eat Breakfast. You'll feel better and it will jump start your metabolism, not to mention it'll help you stave off the diabeetus.

2. At 5"9.5 you could stand another 70 lbs.

3. Diet could stand to be more varied.

Also, I need to know your goals. What do YOU want out of this? Short-term and long-term. Before I lay all the articles and motivational stuff out for you I need to know what it is you want.

I need to know what equipment you have.

I would say that gaining weight doesn't necessarily mean you're gaining that much true strength. In general swimmers and bikers are extremely strong (in their respective areas...swimmers-arms, bikers-legs).

You get strong by lifting heavy things, repeatedly. At 154 lbs LG could gain 50 lbs and look amazing while being very very very strong. Swimmers and the like can't hold a candle to strength athletes.

That is another thing I want to bring up. I know I'm probably coming as overbearing but this needs to be said. If you are going to weight train please go 100%. Mind you this is a sport, people don't understand that. Every time I train I act the same way I do when I used to play football. I clear my head focus, and make the weight my worst enemy.

People act like lifting weights is a hobby, "Oh I'm going to go lift" I hate the phrase. It's a dumb pet peeve but you have to realize if you truly want to change, you need to take this very seriously. I'm not calling you out by any means but just realize. If I could fly to the UK and yell in your ear I would but schooling and money problems prevent that.

Thats one of the reasons I blew up at AdrianII. He made reference to spending hours in the gym. That is one of the biggest myths out there. If I spend more than 1 hour in the gym I would give myself a heart attack.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You get strong by lifting heavy things, repeatedly. At 154 lbs LG could gain 50 lbs and look amazing while being very very very strong. Swimmers and the like can't hold a candle to strength athletes.

That is another thing I want to bring up. I know I'm probably coming as overbearing but this needs to be said. If you are going to weight train please go 100%. Mind you this is a sport, people don't understand that. Every time I train I act the same way I do when I used to play football. I clear my head focus, and make the weight my worst enemy.

People act like lifting weights is a hobby, "Oh I'm going to go lift" I hate the phrase. It's a dumb pet peeve but you have to realize if you truly want to change, you need to take this very seriously. I'm not calling you out by any means but just realize. If I could fly to the UK and yell in your ear I would but schooling and money problems prevent that.

Thats one of the reasons I blew up at AdrianII. He made reference to spending hours in the gym. That is one of the biggest myths out there. If I spend more than 1 hour in the gym I would give myself a heart attack.

---

Well, although my reasoning is slightly different than Strike's, I agree with the result. There's no point in going to the gym if you're going to half-ass(if the mods wish to censor this, I understand) it. I'm amazed at all the people I see at the gym on a treadmill or a bike and they're going about 3 miles per hour. There's no point. You don't get results from slacking off. You only get from a workout what you put into it. If you want results, you WORK OUT. Go all out. Get trashed, doesn't matter if you're running on pure adrenaline by the end if it. That's the best part, in my opinion. There is no better feeling than coming inches from crashing into the brick wall of exhaustion only to catch the glorious thermal of adrenaline and SOARING. But, like Strike, if I tried that for over an hour and a half or so, I would probably come very close to collapsing, literally.

Never saw the point of working out to impress the ladies.

And read more books, girls hate fools...:laugh4: they like smarter people better...:laugh4:

Rather than make a hash of describing the thing i found a picture!

http://www.trade-it.co.uk/category/f...ery_impression

there is also a leg attachment not shown in the picture

Apart from that bench i have, a bar you lift with both hands and a bar you lift with one...

and for weights i have...

6 x 5 kg weights
4 x 2.5 kg
6 x 1.25 kg

1. Eat Breakfast. You'll feel better and it will jump start your metabolism, not to mention it'll help you stave off the diabeetus.

Im usually not hungry but i will make the effort from now on...

3. Diet could stand to be more varied.

I could probably include a bit more of a variety of fruit, some other fish, umm... chips or french fries as you call them... is there specific food or am i just looking for a little more variety... i do have cucumber and tomato or cucumber and cheese sandwiches a few times a week as well...

Also, I need to know your goals. What do YOU want out of this? Short-term and long-term.

Hmm... good question... short term i think i want to get bigger muscles... long term i would want bigger muscles and more definition...

To be specific strength isn't my top goal, i guess its more to do with the looks, more for myself than other people, finally getting a six pack would be nice also... so bigger more defined muscles is the main emphasis... is this specific enough ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

And read more books, girls hate fools...:laugh4: they like smarter people better...:laugh4:

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Never saw the point of working out to impress the ladies.

---

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Women? You think this is about women? :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Just showing your ignorance.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

Rather than make a hash of describing the thing i found a picture!

http://www.trade-it.co.uk/category/f...ery_impression

there is also a leg attachment not shown in the picture

Apart from that bench i have, a bar you lift with both hands and a bar you lift with one...

and for weights i have...

6 x 5 kg weights
4 x 2.5 kg
6 x 1.25 kg

1. Eat Breakfast. You'll feel better and it will jump start your metabolism, not to mention it'll help you stave off the diabeetus.

Im usually not hungry but i will make the effort from now on...

3. Diet could stand to be more varied.

I could probably include a bit more of a variety of fruit, some other fish, umm... chips or french fries as you call them... is there specific food or am i just looking for a little more variety... i do have cucumber and tomato or cucumber and cheese sandwiches a few times a week as well...

Also, I need to know your goals. What do YOU want out of this? Short-term and long-term.

Hmm... good question... short term i think i want to get bigger muscles... long term i would want bigger muscles and more definition...

To be specific strength isn't my top goal, i guess its more to do with the looks, more for myself than other people, finally getting a six pack would be nice also... so bigger more defined muscles is the main emphasis... is this specific enough ?

---

A bar you lift with two hands? Like an olympic bar? http://www.fitnessfactory.com/images/Item/134m.jpg

One hand? I don't follow. You mean like a dumbell?

Those wieghts are going to need to get heavier. Can you get heavier weights? Those may work for your first couple of chest workouts but deadlifts will be impossible. In total plus a 45lb olympic bar that is 140 lbs. Something that will be useless for the compound movements after you've started for a bit.

As for your bench it looks ok. I imagine you have nothing that resembles a power rack and no where to place the bar. I also imagine joining a gym is out of the question. The best leg exercise you can do is the Squat and it looks nigh impossible with the setup you have. But as of right now thats ok. Regrettable but we can work around it because we'll we have to.

Eat Breakfast. Force something down your throat.

Power foods. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...re_power_foods
Read the article. That is a great resource, it's where I get allot of info from. Also fish oil

Alright as long as you have goals. As of right now getting bigger muscles and getting stronger are pretty much one in the same for you. So you have the abstract goal now you need some short term ones.

"I benched X today in one month I want bench Y" Stuff like that.

Now for your routine.

This is the routine I first used and it is very good for beginners. Now mind this is just a template we can change things you can't or are unable to do. We can also shake things up if you feel like you can take on more or less

http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=314

This website will answer all questions about form

http://www.exrx.net/

Any questions just ask

SFTS, i have similiar aims, and a similar diet to little grizzly. I have some new weights, at the moment there 1.5 KG (i have 2) (and there more than heavy enough for me) baring in mind i'm thin and not particularly strong. is 1.5KG an ok weight? or should i add more weights to them to really push myself, or could it do damage?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

SFTS, i have similiar aims, and a similar diet to little grizzly. I have some new weights, at the moment there 1.5 KG (i have 2) (and there more than heavy enough for me) baring in mind i'm thin and not particularly strong. is 1.5KG an ok weight? or should i add more weights to them to really push myself, or could it do damage?

---

On what exercise? 1.5 kilos is 4 lbs. Chances are you form is way off on whatever your doing. What does your rep scheme look like.

Also, i lift them simultaneously in sets of 20, 4 times in 4 stances (320 lifts approx)

-I do the normal up and down weight lift building my arms up
-I do one where i lift the weight up and down from my waist to my shoulder, building chest i think
- Stance where i lift over head, from shoulder to air
- Stance where i push the weights from my waist outward
- sometimes i go on my exercise mat lying down and push the weights up from my chest to the air

Is this a good way to build up? my dad does weights in this way, so i figure it might help me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

Also, i lift them simultaneously in sets of 20, 4 times in 4 stances (320 lifts approx)

-I do the normal up and down weight lift building my arms up
Curls
-I do one where i lift the weight up and down from my waist to my shoulder, building chest i think
Front Raises, They dont build chest the build your anterior deltoid (front shoulder)
- Stance where i lift over head, from shoulder to air
Military press, Anterior and lateral Deltoid (Front and side shoulder)
- Stance where i push the weights from my waist outward
I'm sorry I don't follow
- sometimes i go on my exercise mat lying down and push the weights up from my chest to the air
DB bench, Works chest
Is this a good way to build up? my dad does weights in this way, so i figure it might help me.

---

Honestly 1.5 kilos is not heavy on any of these lifts for a complete newbie (save MAYBE front raises for like a week )

No it's really not a good way to build up you have no back or leg work and don't hit the triceps very hard and mind you triceps are 2/3rds of the arm. Also 4x20 is a bit overkill and you really not doing anything for yourself either.

:laugh4: heavier weights it is


also what things should i do for working on my legs?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

:laugh4: heavier weights it is


also what things should i do for working on my legs?

---

As STFS would certainty agree, squats are you friend.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

People act like lifting weights is a hobby, "Oh I'm going to go lift" I hate the phrase. It's a dumb pet peeve but you have to realize if you truly want to change, you need to take this very seriously. I'm not calling you out by any means but just realize. If I could fly to the UK and yell in your ear I would but schooling and money problems prevent that.

---

I consider it a hobby and find it quite enjoyable to do an hour weight lifting session after classes and work.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Women? You think this is about women? :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Just showing your ignorance.

---

It was more like a non sequitur because I couldn't really care less about your advice and wanted this topic to be focused on something other then you and Grizzly.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

:laugh4: heavier weights it is


also what things should i do for working on my legs?

---

Run, leg squats, lunges, there is a wide variety of exercises for the leg muscles. Just google a few.

Also you said you were lifting 1.5 kg for your upper body? That most likely wont build muscle as it wont be working them hard enough. Try 4 kg if your a beginner that should do the trick.

Then in no time if you stick at it you'll be curling 20's. :2thumbsup:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

It was more like a non sequitur because I couldn't really care less about your advice and wanted this topic to be focused on something other then you and Grizzly.

---

You made a statement and I replied. I apologize.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You made a statement and I replied. I apologize.

---

Nah It's ok. It's all good.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tibilicus

Run, leg squats, lunges, there is a wide variety of exercises for the leg muscles. Just google a few.

Also you said you were lifting 1.5 kg for your upper body? That most likely wont build muscle as it wont be working them hard enough. Try 4 kg if your a beginner that should do the trick.

Then in no time if you stick at it you'll be curling 20's. :2thumbsup:

---

I'll hold as heavy as i can manage (which isn't much) :clown:

Also i just realized that i have a 1.5KG weight on each side of the weight (as all weights have 2 on each one) so that kinda equals 3kg in total, or was that obvious?

Ok i've attached the next size up instead, from 1.5 kg per weight to 2.5 (as theres 2 weights on each thats 5kg per arm) Will it still be more effective even if i do less lifts than normal? (no way i can do about 320 lifts with almost double the original weight)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

Ok i've attached the next size up instead, from 1.5 kg per weight to 2.5 (as theres 2 weights on each thats 5kg per arm) Will it still be more effective even if i do less lifts than normal? (no way i can do about 320 lifts with almost double the original weight)

---

From what I've been told, you should do 3 sets of 8-12 for every exercise. 320 lifts is way too many.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kush

From what I've been told, you should do 3 sets of 8-12 for every exercise. 320 lifts is way too many.

---

A bit basic but I'll allow it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

A bit basic but I'll allow it

---

I just work on push-ups and dips for triceps (because I have no machinery).

I'm kind of forced to do more sets because of this...

A bar you lift with two hands? Like an olympic bar?

Yeah something like that, a barbell its called, can hold 50 kg....

One hand? I don't follow. You mean like a dumbell?

Yes! couldn't think of the name!

Those wieghts are going to need to get heavier. Can you get heavier weights?

Possibly, my friend mentioned something about his weights, if not i could probably get some equipment in March...

I imagine you have nothing that resembles a power rack and no where to place the bar.

Had to look up power rack... no... not sure what you mean about where to place the bar... as in somewhere to lift it from ?

Eat Breakfast. Force something down your throat.

Have been....

Ok thanks for all the articles appreciate it, i am planning on starting on Monday seen as i will have more time and be in better shape to begin it, probably a bad idea to start on weekend, then ill have loads of questions for you ~;)