El Barto's Clueless Mafia Game #1

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Originally Posted by Zack

Vote: Double A

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That was a Freudian slip, actually. My subconscious wants me to rewatch Blackadder again.

Unvote; Vote: Double A

DAY ONE

Most people showed up, and voted. It turns out, that Double A was the wrong battery size to be.

Ishmael 1 (TFT)
Double A 3 (Ishmael; Zack; Askthepizzaguy) LYNCHED
Jarema 1 (Riedquat)
Visorslash 1 (Jarema)
Riedquat 1 (Double A)
Askthepizzaguy 1 (Visorslash)

Not voting, @edse, @Bladescape (2)

He was not part of the mafia, though.
1. Double A LYNCHED DAY ONE, Innocent
2. Kumquat
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. edse
5. TFT
6. Jarema
7. Bladescape
8. Ishmael
9. Zack
10. Visorslash

It is now Night One, during which a kill shall be decided in secret by the mafia.
This phase will last:
Posting is still allowed.

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Originally Posted by Zack

When I think "first past the post," I think of the US system where the first candidate to pass a certain threshold ("pass the post") wins.

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Oh. Well, it's UK English. But the term is also used when discussing voting systems in U.S. Electoral College elections.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Most people showed up, and voted. It turns out, that Double A was the wrong battery size to be.

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I blame the metric system.

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Originally Posted by TFT

Finally, if what you guys say about Jarema and his voting patterns is true, his vote doesn't seem like a wolf tell at the moment. I do want to hear more from him for being so cautious about his first vote.

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I try to vote for Visor at every first day. Sometimes, I change this vote later if he is going to be lynched.

As for Riedquat and Kumquat, I read this as his 'normal' behavior (Kumquat is his nickname).


EDIT: sorry, I wrote this answer before reading rest of the thread

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Edse is not pulling his weight yet; however, I'd give you an obvious reason why if you asked, but don't ask. It's null. I have a feeling he might miss the round altogether, and I believe his absence is not a conscious decision on his part.

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[Zaccinoclaps.gif]

Sorry, I've been so busy getting splinters in my hands and bruises on my knees that I forgot to check the forum.

NIGHT ONE

Zack was found dead in the morning, killed by some shifty scummiosi who made the GM's day by ensuring that the new None Shall Pass game would have the man's undivided attention.

List of players:
1. Double A LYNCHED DAY ONE, Innocent
2. Kumquat
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. edse
5. TFT
6. Jarema
7. Bladescape
8. Ishmael
9. Zack KILLED NIGHT ONE, Innocent
10. Visorslash

It is now Day Two. Vote for a player to be lynched in bold.
This phase will last:

Can I still talk and stuff?

OP doesn't say anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Double A

OP doesn't say anything about it.

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that's why i asked ya dingus

Vote: Reidquat the kumquat the scumquat.

I can continue play, but be advised I'm quite sick and won't be as analytical.

@Pizza I just started coming down with something myself.

Vote: Jarema, let's get this started. Thoughts on Ishamel and TFT?

I personally would like to see how they interact today, if TFT is going to back up his accusation of Ishmael and how Ishmael reacts.

Ishmael can be lynched.

TFT still reads okay to me, to be reversed late game perhaps.

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Originally Posted by Visorslash

I personally would like to see how they interact today, if TFT is going to back up his accusation of Ishmael and how Ishmael reacts.

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Since you ask, I've actually reversed my position on TFT. His accusations against me in the previous day phase seemed sincere.

That leaves me with nothing, so I'll fall back to the default option of trying to get people to talk more. Jarema and edse haven't said much, but a vote for Jarema is more likely to do something given he's already got one.

vote: Jarema

Don't feel limited by Visor; thoughts on anybody are appreciated :beam:.

If Jarema is scum, Ishmael looks good.

If not, Ishmael and reidquat for the scum duo.

@El Barto

What happens if Bladescape doesn't post/vote today?

Hearing from edse would be good as well, need to hear from everybody, with a short game.

I'm inclining more and more towards ATPG being scum. I dislike such certainty so early.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

If Jarema is scum, Ishmael looks good.

If not, Ishmael and reidquat for the scum duo.

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You can be partially right, just remove the poor reidquat from there, were me scum you would be dead. You alive, me good townie, a townquat! ...*possessed by Sitting Bull spirit*...

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I'm inclining more and more towards ATPG being scum. I dislike such certainty so early.

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I dislike prevarication. This isn't early, we're at lynch or lose next round.

6 towns, two scums. -1 town lynch, -1 town murder.

4 towns, two scums. Lynch or lose.

"Early" pushes you over the top. We can lynch your partner scumquat next round.

Unvote, Vote: Ishmael

I've clearly rattled your cage. Time to die.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

You can be partially right, just remove the poor reidquat from there, were me scum you would be dead.

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This is a bad argument. Zack was the must-murder last night, he was never getting lynched this game due to the lack of village PMs.

That being said, you can help me kill Ishmael and all will be forgiven.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I'm inclining more and more towards ATPG being scum. I dislike such certainty so early.

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Or visor and him... +10 for thread activity but they are directing the circus here... in the other hand atpg could be right about you, the thing is you and who else?

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is a bad argument. Zack was the must-murder last night, he was never getting lynched this game due to the lack of village PMs.

That being said, you can help me kill Ishmael and all will be forgiven.

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I prefer to lynch not kill Ishmael... and what are you going to forgive? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I dislike prevarication. This isn't early, we're at lynch or lose next round.

6 towns, two scums. -1 town lynch, -1 town murder.

4 towns, two scums. Lynch or lose.

"Early" pushes you over the top. We can lynch your partner scumquat next round.

Unvote, Vote: Ishmael

I've clearly rattled your cage. Time to die.

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There is a difference between disliking certainty, and disliking taking a position. My objection was to your framing the debate in an attempt to guarantee that if Jarema were innocent, you would get a 'free' lynch. As you point out yourself, that would be game.

unvote; vote: Askthepizzaguy

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

There is a difference between disliking certainty, and disliking taking a position. My objection was to your framing the debate in an attempt to guarantee that if Jarema were innocent, you would get a 'free' lynch. As you point out yourself, that would be game.

unvote; vote: Askthepizzaguy

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This post smells funny... I somehow agree with it but something doesn't fit...
Atpg, as Ishmael kindly points out, if jarema is innocent, why Ishmael and me are guilty? And just as mental exercise, if is not me, who would be the next possible?

This is how I read the both of you.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Somebody seems bitter. Given up hope for this year already? :beam:

vote: Double A

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Nominates a townie to die D1

+ wolf points.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Kumquat wants me to vote: jarema I disagree but he commands...:yes:

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Nominates Jarema D1, low-risk.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

No, he is not! kumquat is a better one...

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Joking, low-content.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

No and I wonder why do you think I am...

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Wants reasons to defend against.

+ wolf points.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

You always nail me as mafia, and for the right reasons too. It's just fortunate the town doesn't listen to you most of the time when you do. You also often call me as mafia when I'm townie, but that's a different matter.

As for serious post analysis, I'd give Visorslash a tentative pass, and will be keeping a closer eye on TFT. I won't be changing my vote though, as I'd feel bad lynching one of the newcomers without more than a gut feeling on D1. No opinions yet on anybody else, really.

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Words directed at Visorslash feel wrong. Discussing the past is something I tend to do more as a wolf.

"Keep a closer eye on TFT" feels like a wolf lie.

Low number of opinions, low-risk.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

All right, I'll bite.

Visorslash: In my experience he doesn't tend to post quite so much, so early, as scum.

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Disagree.

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TFT: Ruling Pizza townie off the bat. He doesn't tend to read easily. That seems like either overconfidence, or an attempt to get on the good side of one of the more talkative (and therefore potentially influential) players.

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Disagree, and I disagree with smudging TFT.

+wolf points.

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Are you saying that you're scum, or that I always vote for you even when you're townie?

Seriously though, whilst I don't tend to self-analyse much (perhaps I should), if I vote for you more often than others that's because I tend to find you suspicious more often than others, accurately or otherwise. It's not like my default course of action is just 'vote Visorslash.'

As for Pizza, see above; I don't feel justified in making any judgement yet.

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No one should be neutral on me at this point in the game.

+wolf points.

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Well, the meta analysis and post analysis were naturally separate. The meta analysis was of Visor's scumfinding ability, whilst the post analysis was about my opinions on how I might vote. There really wasn't much overlap.

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Filler.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Understandable, but it wasn't me who started it, who is in the players list? Me or kumquat? It is okay for me, people call me kumquat, scumquat, reidquat and riedquat... :P

Nah!! Really? Nobody noticed, ever! :P But don't change, we love you as you are!

But seriously, generally you always read me as scum, as town, as mafia and as third party, I don't remember a single time you had put me on the clear list... perhaps I'm always scummy!

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This strikes me as not only a butt-pulled statement, but also an attempt to undermine confidence in a read on Reid.

+wolf points.

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Here, you are the one who can read me as an open book, if you think I'm mafia, you are probably right or you are scum yourself.

:yes:

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I don't like this interaction with Visorslash.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Since you ask, I've actually reversed my position on TFT. His accusations against me in the previous day phase seemed sincere.

That leaves me with nothing, so I'll fall back to the default option of trying to get people to talk more. Jarema and edse haven't said much, but a vote for Jarema is more likely to do something given he's already got one.

vote: Jarema

Don't feel limited by Visor; thoughts on anybody are appreciated :beam:.

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Jarema has been nominated by several folks, therefore if he's a villager he's a low-risk lynch. He could also be a bussing target, less likely.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I'm inclining more and more towards ATPG being scum. I dislike such certainty so early.

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Wildly wolfy statement.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

You can be partially right, just remove the poor reidquat from there, were me scum you would be dead. You alive, me good townie, a townquat! ...*possessed by Sitting Bull spirit*...

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I think I was half-right, actually.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Or visor and him... +10 for thread activity but they are directing the circus here... in the other hand atpg could be right about you, the thing is you and who else?

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Bull.

Visor and me are never the scum team here.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

I prefer to lynch not kill Ishmael... and what are you going to forgive? :inquisitive:

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Also bull. Riedquat has not indicated he's willing to lynch Ishmael.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

There is a difference between disliking certainty, and disliking taking a position. My objection was to your framing the debate in an attempt to guarantee that if Jarema were innocent, you would get a 'free' lynch. As you point out yourself, that would be game.

unvote; vote: Askthepizzaguy

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Caught wolf.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

This post smells funny... I somehow agree with it but something doesn't fit...

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Prep for distancing.

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Atpg, as Ishmael kindly points out, if jarema is innocent, why Ishmael and me are guilty? And just as mental exercise, if is not me, who would be the next possible?

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You and Ishmael are guilty because you are both having a terrible game as wolf.

Simple as that. No offense, but you've done nothing townie so far.

I have Ishmael as 75% wolf and Reidquat as 65% wolf.

Not quite as certain as Fleeing Coward and Banjo caught wolf team, but enough that I'm willing to bet the game on these two on the lynch or lose round.

You have precisely one round to change my mind.

Jarema like 45% wolf.

It's possible but I have my doubts.

Visor, I'm pretty much the murder tonight, do you agree?

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is how I read the both of you.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Nominates a townie to die D1

+ wolf points.



Nominates Jarema D1, low-risk.



Joking, low-content.



Wants reasons to defend against.

+ wolf points.



Words directed at Visorslash feel wrong. Discussing the past is something I tend to do more as a wolf.

"Keep a closer eye on TFT" feels like a wolf lie.

Low number of opinions, low-risk.



Disagree.



Disagree, and I disagree with smudging TFT.

+wolf points.



No one should be neutral on me at this point in the game.

+wolf points.



Filler.



This strikes me as not only a butt-pulled statement, but also an attempt to undermine confidence in a read on Reid.

+wolf points.



I don't like this interaction with Visorslash.



Jarema has been nominated by several folks, therefore if he's a villager he's a low-risk lynch. He could also be a bussing target, less likely.



Wildly wolfy statement.



I think I was half-right, actually.



Bull.

Visor and me are never the scum team here.



Also bull. Riedquat has not indicated he's willing to lynch Ishmael.



Caught wolf.

Prep for distancing.



You and Ishmael are guilty because you are both having a terrible game as wolf.

Simple as that. No offense, but you've done nothing townie so far.

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I won't bother with the stuff in the spoiler. Some of it I've addressed or are disagreements in interpretation, and the rest is highly ambiguous. The last part caught my eye, though:

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You and Ishmael are guilty because you are both having a terrible game as wolf.

Simple as that. No offense, but you've done nothing townie so far.

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Sounds like somebody is giving themselves room to back away if you spearhead the lynch of a townie. And yet you call Riedquat out for distancing.

Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong. As far as I'm concerned, if I ever get lynched this game it's game over anyway. Too many townies are AWOL. Today is lynch or lose for all practical purposes, yet you seem to believe we've got plenty of time.

Haha! I understand your reading of me, do not agree in every point but your point of view is understandable. In the post you mention I'm distancing from Ishmael I thought you were going to think exactly that when writing it, but my feelings about that post are exactly those.

And about acting townie, well... this is the way I roll... always, as town or mafia... I think? Correspond to others judge that.

I'm fine going after Ishmael but I agree he has some good points, I know you are completely wrong about me, so the what if you are completely wrong about him too, keeps popping out in my mind, there is a lot of people saying nothing and that worries me more than your accusation.

vote: Ishmael

sorry, I am sick. I am going back to my bed

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Originally Posted by Jarema

vote: Ishmael

sorry, I am sick. I am going back to my bed

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umm... as your mafia partner? :inquisitive:

Get well soon!

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

I'm fine going after Ishmael but I agree he has some good points, I know you are completely wrong about me, so the what if you are completely wrong about him too, keeps popping out in my mind, there is a lot of people saying nothing and that worries me more than your accusation.

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The italics reads as wolfy, surprise surprise.


You aren't going to lynch Ishmael because you know you hang after he dies and flips wolf.

Now then, there are several possibilities:

1) Ishmael is a wolf and you're his partner.
2) Ishmael is a wolf and I'm bussing him hard
3) Ishmael is a wolf and someone else is his partner.
4) Ishmael is not a wolf.

In universes 2 through 3 you still need to lynch Ishmael regardless of my accusation of you. Why my accusing you even factors in, is beyond me. Villager Reidquat would know it's meaningless, so why do you even bring it up? It's horribad logic.

In Universe 1, your lack of support for lynching Ishmael will cause you to hang tomorrow. You should probably lynch him. Maybe I change my mind about you.

(Spoiler alert: That ship has sailed....)

In Universe 4, your lack of support for lynching him reads as PIS to me, and I'd still lynch you tomorrow if I survive that long and people still read me as a villager.

No one should be defending Ishmael, he's a legit suspect acting wolfy.

The way you're uncomfortable with his lynch, and how you're stalling, indicates to me that between 1 and 2 of you are completely guilty.

Mmm, sorry, I thought I would have more time now that work has started but I was wrong.

When I read yesterday's posts I thought Ishmael and Jarema were the guilty ones, but today's voting doesn't really support that theory.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

You always nail me as mafia, and for the right reasons too. It's just fortunate the town doesn't listen to you most of the time when you do. You also often call me as mafia when I'm townie, but that's a different matter.

As for serious post analysis, I'd give Visorslash a tentative pass, and will be keeping a closer eye on TFT. I won't be changing my vote though, as I'd feel bad lynching one of the newcomers without more than a gut feeling on D1. No opinions yet on anybody else, really.

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I reacted the same way as TFT when I read this post and Jarema's lazy vote with it's common explanation isn't very good in a game this small.

I'll go with Vote:Ishmael.

I need to be murdered tonight to prevent shenanigans, so if everyone could be on record as thinking Askthepizzaguy is an obvious villager, that would probably tilt things that way.

Regardless of how Ishmael flips, me surviving to lynch or lose is never good for village's ability to think clearly.

Well, I'm not going to get anything out of Jarema.

Unvote; Vote: Riedquat, I find his posts today to not nullify any suspicion I had on him.

Pizza, you or myself.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Haha! I understand your reading of me, do not agree in every point but your point of view is understandable. In the post you mention I'm distancing from Ishmael I thought you were going to think exactly that when writing it, but my feelings about that post are exactly those.

And about acting townie, well... this is the way I roll... always, as town or mafia... I think? Correspond to others judge that.

I'm fine going after Ishmael but I agree he has some good points, I know you are completely wrong about me, so the what if you are completely wrong about him too, keeps popping out in my mind, there is a lot of people saying nothing and that worries me more than your accusation.

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This post in particular - the understanding part of it specifically is something mafia like to do as it is not antagonistic and allows acknowledgement but also deflection.

It has been quite some time since I've played with Riedquat, but I think I'm right. Him, Ishmael are both good lynches I feel.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Can I still talk and stuff?

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Originally Posted by Double A

OP doesn't say anything about it.

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Yes, yes, if you must.

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Originally Posted by Visorslash

What happens if Bladescape doesn't post/vote today?

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He'll be replaced. Probably by one of the two dingi quoted above.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is a bad argument. Zack was the must-murder last night, he was never getting lynched this game due to the lack of village PMs.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Assume that for the moment, zack is village, pizza is village, you're village, and Ishmael is village. Your top suspects then?

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 06-07-14 at 01:05 AM. Reason: In fact, I'm skipping analysis of Zack. It doesn't even need to be said.

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Because I said I didn't get a PM? Like a scumbag's never done that before? Smells likes PIS to me.

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Originally Posted by Visorslash

Well, I'm not going to get anything out of Jarema.

Unvote; Vote: Riedquat, I find his posts today to not nullify any suspicion I had on him.

Pizza, you or myself.

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Know what? Now I'm suspicious of me too, Vote: Riedquat Tomorrow lynch Ishmael, and nobody would need to deal with wolfquat in any other round!

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Know what? Now I'm suspicious of me too, Vote: Riedquat Tomorrow lynch Ishmael, and nobody would need to deal with wolfquat in any other round!

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Vote for literally anyone but yourself, please. That goes for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Because I said I didn't get a PM? Like a scumbag's never done that before? Smells likes PIS to me.

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Maybe you have urinal cakes in your nostrils.

I like how Reidquat is totally willing to lynch Ishmael, like, someday? But not before self-owning.

That's pretty kewl. It's a really unorthodox way of hunting scums.

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Originally Posted by Riedquat

Know what? Now I'm suspicious of me too, Vote: Riedquat Tomorrow lynch Ishmael, and nobody would need to deal with wolfquat in any other round!

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This stinks.

Mucho apologies for the absence, as Pizza said it was announced clearly on GITP but I forgot to mention it here and didn't realise how fast things would go here.

A quick Vote:Ishmael read for me right now. Sick so I probably won't go too in depth until later.

Praise be to bladescape, holy defender against the wrath of.... of...

Well, El Barto I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I like how Reidquat is totally willing to lynch Ishmael, like, someday? But not before self-owning.

That's pretty kewl. It's a really unorthodox way of hunting scums.

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Letting me here round after round barking in each one I'm scum but still keeping me alive to start over in the next round doesn't help anyone except the scum, the truth is I'm f'king annoyed because regardless of Ishmael's role, tomorrow you are going to start it again how wolfie I am and blah blah blah... so what is the point of this exercise on futility from my part?

So, unvote. Don't expect further participation from me.

Melodrama!~

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong.

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Has anyone else noticed that when Pizza's wrong and we do this, we only lynch him when he's town?

Yes. Of course you have. And so has Pizza. Also, he knows we know, so it's a WIFOM. I advocate lynching him on principle.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I need to be murdered tonight to prevent shenanigans, so if everyone could be on record as thinking Askthepizzaguy is an obvious villager, that would probably tilt things that way.

Regardless of how Ishmael flips, me surviving to lynch or lose is never good for village's ability to think clearly.

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I have a strong scum vibe on you after reading this post.
In fact, stronger feeling of you being scum that I ever had.
You like to wave your big, diamond balls (or "crystal used in lightsabers"*) in front of town, dont you?
It is exactly how I've seen scummy Pizza behaving before.
I say we should lynch him.

Unvote; vote: ATPG

PS
Pizza, you said more than once that you want us to realy try to read you. Now, I am realy trying.

DAY TWO

Ishmael was lynched.

Riedquat: Visorslash (1)
Ishmael: Askthepizzaguy; edse; Bladescape (3)
Askthepizzaguy: Ishmael; Jarema (2)

Abstain: Riedquat (1)
Not voting: TFT (1)

List of players:
1. Double A LYNCHED DAY ONE, Innocent
2. Kumquat
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. edse
5. TFT
6. Jarema
7. Bladescape
8. Ishmael LYNCHED DAY TWO, Innocent
9. Zack KILLED NIGHT ONE, Innocent
10. Visorslash

It is now Night Two. Posting is still allowed.
This phase will last:

What, my 'innocent' isn't in bold font? I'm wounded.

Seriously though, lynch ATPG tomorrow. Don't let him worm his way out of it - he's mafia.

Have I got some disappointing news for you. :laugh4:

So, tell you what, I think I'll also be melodramatic and go on strike.

I won't help the town team win since I'm the next lynch.

Ordinarily I'd dig deep and pull a rabbit out of my hat but there's little point in it for me, because (a) I'm basically half of the town's analysis and activity anyway, and (b) too many confirmed innocents want me dead, so let's let that happen.

not nice :)

as you well know, IF you are town, you can still help us even if we lynch you. We will analyze your words after your death.

So, at least tell us who are your two main suspects (or one) before you die

and I understand whay you may want to be lazy, but I am angry at you anyway, 'cause I am going to die in your game :)

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Originally Posted by Jarema

not nice :)

as you well know, IF you are town, you can still help us even if we lynch you. We will analyze your words after your death

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So how does that work, exactly?

Tell me how you feel town can win after it lynches villager pizzaguy.

Give me all the scenarios where town wins after a third villager lynch in a row in a 10 player game.

This is how town wins: You swallow the fact that I'm still a villager.

This is how town loses: You lynch any villager next round.

Math.

Here's your pre-mortem post-mortem.

Town lost because town chose who died and town chose incorrectly.

Ishmael 1 (TFT)
Double A 3 (Ishmael; Zack; Askthepizzaguy) LYNCHED
Jarema 1 (Riedquat)
Visorslash 1 (Jarema)
Riedquat 1 (Double A)
Askthepizzaguy 1 (Visorslash)
Not voting, edse, Bladescape (2)


Riedquat: Visorslash (1)
Ishmael: Askthepizzaguy; edse; Bladescape (3)
Askthepizzaguy: Ishmael; Jarema (2)
Abstain: Riedquat (1)
Not voting: TFT (1)


Next: Zack or Double A rejoins the game, both think I'm scum. That's all she wrote.

We'd have a chance if all the pizza-is-scum people remained dead. Instead, the zombies will arrive and carry off pizza's brains.

The mafia will continue to vote off-wagon and be Visorslash.

D'aww I said I wasn't going to contributed and I still contributed.

Pizza lied, lynch pizza.

Vote: ATPG I'm convinced.

What do the colours represent Pizza? Seeing my name in bolder black is unsettling.

I think we should lynch Jarema tomorrow.

I actually voted AA D1, but it must have been after the deadline.

Still we have more information to look at.

Noticeably Ishmael being innocent, ATPG pushed Ishmael hard, and TFT pushed Ishmael hard both days.
Riedquat and ATPG both had 'drama' moments. Now, Riedquat, I'm unsure of what to believe. Ishmael flipping town makes me believe Riedquat might be town. ATPG's 'drama' is what he does as scum, seen it before (masquerade anyone?), especially after pushing two town lynches hard.

Out of the seven left, I want to hear from edse and bladescape the most, as they have missed a day here.

Riedquat: I thought he was scum initially, and I'm still not sure now, but both he and ATPG are not scum together. Unlikely they both have 'drama' as wolves. Hesistant town lean.

Bladescape: If he is mafia he is the inactive partner. Null so far.

Edse: Similar to TFT, mostly about Ishmael, pushing the lynch, though he did mention he thought Jarema was scum with him. Null.

Jarema: Town. His early game is comparable to what I expect from town Jarema, and his posts recently are big town tells for Jarema, and I like his post against Pizza.

TFT: TFT didn't post here, but he did post on GITP, I don't know how he plays as scum, but he has barely had any interaction with anyone besides Ishmael (small AA discussion).

Pizza: Pushed hard for Ishmael and AA. Did his drama act.

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Originally Posted by edse

What do the colours represent Pizza? Seeing my name in bolder black is unsettling.

I think we should lynch Jarema tomorrow.

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No, I don't think we should. Jarema is highly highly likely to be a townie.

Edse is actually pretty similar to Bladescape - painful situation to be in, to try and guess their alignment.

I think Riedquat is town too, on reread. The Ishmael flip and his drama is more likely to make him town.

Pizza must go.

I tend to think Atpg is more town than you Visor, he has been terrible all game long so far but it seems he keeps thinking I'm scum, (by the bolded text?), every game I played with Pizza at one point or another he always accuses me of being scum, some times he has been right of course, many others not so. But he always point out me, perhaps something about his dyslexia and my name, who knows... but you Visor? You know better of my lack of play style to come forward with I'm convinced he must be scum...

Now, voting at night is a sweet detail too... because it is night, you know it, right?

Perhaps I got everything wrong and Atpg has been playing with us as many of you think, but he has been the only one playing with us?

Apologies for my inactivity, but this game start actually came up at a worse moment for me than I expected, so my focus isn't really on any game. Which sucks because there are a lot of games I want to focus on. Luckily Semester end comes up in a bit over a week, which doesn't help when games might be over by then.

So quick analysis of what I see so far:

I don't like the drama of Ried, but I don't know what to base that on with having so little knowledge of him. His voting history/interaction makes me think he really shouldn't be tossed up for lynch so much though just because I don't quite see what people are seeing in him being a mafia.

ATPG is at one of those points where I can't really place town vs scum at the current moment. I have an idea but no real solid thesis.

But you know who I really don't like on review?

TFT.

Visor and Edse I have nothing on right now. Read through Visor and something's niggling me but I'd need time to review what I've seen already to catch what it is.

Jarema I don't like but not willing to push yet.

Lol

Visor, name a game other than Maskerade where I did "drama" as a wolf.

I'm usually a villager when I do "drama".

He picks one thing I did in one game as a wolf and what I do in half my village games and presto, the most unreliable pizza scumtell of all time.

Whips it out precisely the moment I accuse him.

We got him boys.

Well, I got him. The rest of you can lynch me and most of you will lose in so doing.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Visor, name a game other than Maskerade where I did "drama" as a wolf.

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KOTOR. Same host.

That said, I wouldn't complain about a Visor lynch.

To expand, Pizza being dramatic is not a good reason to vote him because he is always dramatic.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Lol

Visor, name a game other than Maskerade where I did "drama" as a wolf.

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argh, I am so bad at remembering details.

but in one of the games I hosted, when you were scum, you did exactly the same (unfortunately, I cannot recall name of the game)

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Originally Posted by Zack

To expand, Pizza being dramatic is not a good reason to vote him because he is always dramatic.

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but he is dramatic in different ways. This time, it is like he wants to point at this post after game and tell us: 'am I not the ballsiest villain ever?'

We will not lynch Pizza tomorrow. We won't even consider it as it would only distract us.

Visorslash says Jarema isn't scum so I'll have to believe him. Visorslash himself on the other hand, he could be mafia. One of the newcomers is probably mafia too. The dice says it's TFT.

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Originally Posted by Zack

To expand, Pizza being dramatic is not a good reason to vote him because he is always dramatic.

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Well obviously. I also don't want to kill him because he was wrong (if he's townie). I'm generally in favor of letting Pizza live longer so I can half-assedly analyze him better, but when the majority of the town starts to eat out of his hand and stops thinking independently? That's generally a Bad Thing.

Whenever he does the "lynch x and if I'm wrong lynch me too" thing I get worried because it's always a huge waste of time. I can't remember him ever catching a mafioso with that method, and then we actually do lynch him unless he convinces everyone to give him another chance. It's all very complicated and doesn't really ever get anyone anywhere.

I don't know if Pizza would've pushed for my lynch if he were mafia. The only strategical reason he would do is to save a partner, which is pretty unlikely. I'm not always active, and Pizza doesn't like to metagame. I think he just did it for the hell of it. Thing is, he would totally do that no matter which team he were on.

Goddammit Pizza I hate analyzing you. I just run in mental circles.

Why have edse and pizza protected each other all game?

And am I ever going to be replaced into the game?

I'm so sorry guys, work was brutal because we did our first big summer event (I work in catering during the summer, and we made food for 750 people for 3 meals. Not very fun.). I should have at least taken the 5 minutes to look at the game and vote, and for that I apologize. I'll take some time out tonight to look into this game more in depth, but needless to say there's something we're missing.