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It works. Thanks! Will do the save now.
Oh great... I have to reinstall game on laptop if I want to get game working. Don't expect it done before Saturday, busy day tonight...
Why don't you ask sly to sub for you if it's a hassle for you to play this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by RexLegend
He told me not too long ago that he's finished the turn and that he just needs to upload in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Well, turn was also crucial and its been weeks since I got my last turn. Here.
Took Antwerp with spies and two armies, Nyokeping with single stack. It's now Norway's decision what he does with his remaining stack in England (probably attacks mainland) and rest of stacks in Norway, 2 cities left. War should be over soon :)
Also sent some ingame messages.
Cumans are up
I took Rhodes and Nicosia for the Caliphate. Admirals Tarasios and Efdaimon of the ERE were defeated and cannot move nor be attacked next turn.
Hello Phonics,
are we donig a break for the Christmas holidays or just going on as usual?
Or perhaps a prolonged turn period would work well for that time.
I myself will be away from Friday onward and should be back online on 29th of December.
I'd support Nigel about Christmas holiday break and I'd add up New Year's Eve. :)
I won't be strictly enforcing turn deadlines over the holiday period but if people want to think about talking to their allies and arranging subs where they know they'll be out that'd be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
Sounds good.
Merry Christmas and Season Greetings to everyone and all the best for the New Year. :xmas:
You too Nigel, Merry Christmas everyone!
It's been three days and it's not the holidays quite yet so I might skip this later to keep things moving as much as possible
Sorry, guys, I've been too busy with other things so i'm going to have to drop out of this one. I know one turn a month is so hard.:laugh4: Have fun!!
Ok buddy, no problem and thanks for playing - will you continue in WotK2 as well or do we find another player there too?Quote:
Originally Posted by LooseCannon1
Anyone want to sub for France while we look for another player?
Be warned, I am about to lay down the smack on them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
And thank you for playing while you did Loosecannon1!
Perharps should I play as France this turn until we find someone else?
EDIT:Did turn, no offensive attacks done. Well, better than skipping. Here's England's save
subbed on Zim's request, Bruges taken, other than that nothing of much note.
poland!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9803
With that announcement England is pressing their claims on the north of France.
Hi guys.
Just to let you know I will be in Germany for most of Jan and unable to do my turns. I'm happy for anyone to sub/take over, and I'll see how things are when I get back.
Don't worry deguerra, just let armies of Denmark to take over your cities and you don't have to worry about this hotseat anymore. >:)
Moors
I need someone to sub me since I will be busy with my exams until Feb. I won't be able to play till they get over.
Ezil, can you nominate someone? Most of us are at war with you!
well someone whos not at war maybe, Caesar or LooseCannon1
Soo... Who have we lost here? Did I get this correctly, that Rogueman gave up on the ERE?
I will do my turn tonight.
lithuania up,
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9813
and about france, maybe we should just have people sub them rather than giving them a new player, they are being attacked from 3 different sides and as far as I know don't have help coming.
sounds like a candidate for the AI if you ask me, why bother subbing if they are getting kerbstomped? I'll switch them next time my turn comes upQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightbringer
Ok, I completed my turn.
Here is the savegame for Kiev:
Attachment 3355
Teutons up
Moscov have been taken and is nove under stron, wise kievan rule!
Teutons done.
To eliminate them I charged the only surviving unit (Grandmaster with 37 men bodyguard) against a Polish army.
Ceasar, this hopefully did not cause you too much damage, but it was the only army within reach.
And hopefully they are out of the game now for good.
Norway is next:
Attachment 3357
sorry, Norway is deguerra right? We don't have a player for them but I'll see if I can sub this evening while we look for one
I'm sorry to say it but poor Norway is doomed - I have switched it to AI
Khwarezm is up
EDIT: Now the holidays are done let's get these turns really rolling again - I'm going to be strict on deadlines and skip anyone who misses them without notice
Er, you might want to remind those of us who could have simply missed the PM, or didn't get one
I agree with Myth and - speaking for myself - I would be happy with a somewhat lenient policy of sending a reminder PM plus another day grace period. Even though gamespeed seems to be slow, a 2-day window is quite narrow and we are probably getting to a point where having your turn skipped can be really painful for some players. Also, the long time between turns makes it convenient for some behind-the-scenes roleplaying action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myth
So as long as we make sure the game does not come to a halt, I personally would not mind waiting some additional time for a fellow player.
My two cents, anyway.
Can each of us not just have a designated person who can sub a player who misses their 48-hour deadline??Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
I would love that - feel free to designate someone and I will contact them to sub when the deadline is up with no explanationQuote:
Originally Posted by slysnake
As for Myth and Nigel's comments, in practice I am rarely at home when the turn deadlines come due (timezones you see) and so I usually have time and I'll always try to remind someone if their turn is up and they haven't played. But if I get no response I'm going to skip turns rather than wait days.
These games are more fun for everyone if they keep moving - if they continually stall it's my experience that people drift away and lose interest and I want to avoid that happening.
You guys can all subscribe to this thread and keep up to date with it that way, pm or no pm!
Well designated subs work but sometimes it's better to have an actual ally in that game to sub, and do specific things you instructed. As a rule of thumb, if you want to be a successful HS general you have to anticipate your IRL barriers and designate the best possible sub for each game, rather than burden one player to do it all for you (and subsequently, force him to make decisions for your faction without knowing everything abut your position in that game if he doesn't also participate in it).
Honestly I'll allow any of the .org regulars to sub me in a game so long as we have explicitly and undoubtedly been declared allies (done via PM more often than in public). Failing that, a .org regular who isn't in the game, a staff member or the admin for the game can do it. The thing is though, I think everyone trusts Monkey and Zim to do a fair and unbiased job at subbing a turn (hell, having Monkey sub you as a HA race I would consider an advantage) but both are quite busy IRL and can't be bothered to constantly sub every Tom, Dick and WarlordConqueror1996.
However their titles as Mods makes them more trustworthy in the eyes of other players (IMO again). Perhaps senior members, content managers, mods and any other can actively offer their assistance in such cases? Cecil, Nigel and other TR regulars who are also senior members could (along with myself) offer subbing services for games we are not in? Even better if the player left us instructions on how he would like things to progress on his turn.
I also propose special cases for extensions to be reviewed by the admin of a game or failing that - by Zim or Monkey. There are just those turns that absolutely cannot be risked and one must play for oneself.
guys give me a slight extension here just did a turn and im leaving town now im having this up as soon as im back tomorrow
thats fine, thanks for letting us knowQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverShield
im not making it back home today we still got stuff going on here. actually its better im dropping from this one. i got lots of stuff going on right now too lil time for the game these days and its just turn four in this one more easy leaving this one than another one. im sure one of those smaller factions is going down within the next turns so naturally someone is up for an heavy weight. its still the right moment for someone else taking over and implementing his own grand strategy. enjoy guys
Strange I'd have thought the K-Shah has the highest chances of victory on this map. It's a well developed corner faction with no Mongols to pester it. You only need a dozen more towns to win it.
By my count we have lost four players in the last month.
Norway and France have been switched to AI.
Kwarezm and ERE are open for new players - please help me to find replacement players among anyone you know. I will update the recruitment threads here, in the Citadel and at the TWC.
In the meantime I will sub the Kwarezm. We don't have a sub for the ERE.
With Sicilly, Egypt, the Moors, Venice, the Cumans and the K-Shah all attacking the ERE I thnk it has lower chances of survival than France. On my front (Italy and Greece) I have mauled three full stacks and now am just taking cities and castles as if I were plucking daises. Perhaps switching them to AI would be better? They had a crappy position to start with (I was surprised someone even bothered with them) and now they're pretty much boned.
Even if anew player comes and asks for peace, undoubtedly they would still lose a 1v1 with either Sicilly, Venice or Egypt. And this seems more like a landgrab now than a proper war, so who would give them peace anyway? No IC or OOC reason to do it :knight:
France actually has lower chances than ERE. You just don't know the amount of armies that are dispatched to rampage poor French. Without great player, there is no chance ;)
bump!
I'll try to do this tomorrow, sorry
Swaaabia
Siiicily
Attachment 3421
Danemark:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9842
The Republic of Genoa announces that it has repealed its alliance with the Republic of Swabia and issued a declaration of war concerning a dispute over territory in Italy.
Rollin' all the way!
Fatimid's turn.
In next turn, one faction less and time to grab some France.
May I ask what disputed land this is over? Swabia has no such intentions of seizing any Italian lands - if you believe this to be the case, then I must say that you have been heavily misguided in your judgement. Diplomacy is still on the table since Swabia does not desire war, but if you so dearly wish to pursue the path of war, then that is the fate that you shall inevitably have to suffer yourself at the hands of Swabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Just thinking ahead, if the Kwaz end up being unoccupied and we have to switch them to AI I think it would be unfair for me (or anyone else ie. the Cumans) to be able to target them because by doing so one could win the game without having to fight other humans.
There are a few territories of theirs in Anatolia which I think it is reasonable for me to target as they are interspersed with mine, but after that is sorted I'm considering declaring them sacrosanct and maybe leaving them human-controlled and just skipping them each turn so they don't have any bearing on the game.
I'll also check my VCs when I play my turn in case I need any of their other provinces for victory - if that were the case I think I would be reasonable to allow me to take those and any in a direct line between my lands and those targets.
What do you guys think of that?
This won't apply of course if a human player can be found. I usually allow three turns to pass before making a ruling like that but in this case as the game is moving slowly I might make a decision sooner.
Definitely have them be human controlled.
Sorry, do you mean you agree with my plan if we can't find a human player?Quote:
Originally Posted by Myth
Another option is that someone else the game could switch to play them, or maybe deguerra / Ezil could take them over on their return.
I think it is a good idea to make sure that no one can win the game just by conquering the Kwaz, if we cant find another player. Neutralizing them by having a human player skip their turns should work. But also, while it makes sense for yourself to be able to get some more of their provinces, maybe this would make sense for e.g. the Cumans as well.
Perhaps we can do it the other way around and say: those 12 central Kwaz provinces are out of bounds. The others (scattered or border provinces ) are free to be taken by anyone.
Still, if deguerra or Ezil want to take them over, that would be even better.
Cumans are up
Oops, I thought I set them to Ai already. I'll do it later.
oops :confused:
I have asked Zim to help out as I'm away for the weekend.
In other news aazard will join the game as the Khwarezm Shah.
Welcome to the game aazard!
Welcome!
Welcome aazard!
Maybe I'm just rusty but I had a problem turning France to AI. Doing it from the save there turn was up on led to a crash, so I skipped it. Then I tried it after playing my turn and received a funny error saying in the game's current state factions could not be reset to AI and suggesting maybe a diploamtic scroll was open. Should have done it from the middle of my turn instead of a faction turn screen I guess. I'll get back to it further along in this round and get it done.
Poland is up.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9868
Prague, the last imperial city, fell this season and the HRE is no more.
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21201096/MoT-Byz-6.sav
I thought the Byz were out of the game already.
If anyone can give me their password, I should be able to just skipp thier move today and upload the game for the Moors.
Edit: Ezil, I hope that is in your interest. I dont mean to be mean and bypass you if you do still want to play them.
I think it's fine with Ezil - if I remember rightly he said he had to leave due to exams? If he's in the UK, exam season is about half way so far, so if he really wanted to return he could, but then again, would there be anything left for him to return to? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
The ERE is pretty much dead with me and Phonics taking about half of their cities already and Venice and the Moors joining in the fray as well. Last I heard the Cumans could get in on the action too so.., Yeah. Just skip them or switch them to AI though the AI will spawn free stacks...
In that case ít would indeed be best to just keep skipping them.Quote:
... though the AI will spawn free stacks...
The same would be true for the Teutonic Order, too. I killed off their last unit (Faction Leader) in the last turn, but was somewhat surprised when nothing happened and the game just went on like normal. I guess we really would not want to have new stacks of them appearing again and again.
Well, I would need the Password of the Byz to skipp them. If anyone can give it to me, I can help move this along. Not sure though, if anyone other than Ezil has it. Perhaps we will just have to wait for Phonics to do it.
The TO are both a Horde and an Emergent faction. To kill them off permanently all their agents need to go as well as their settlements and armies. Failing that they will keep spawning halfstacks ad infinitum. This is only a problem in Early though.
Moderator could enter console command: surrender_regions "teutonic_order"
This should do the trick. If this is already done before, then command won't work and faction gets glitched.
I'll switch the ERE to AI when i get home, as well as France. It's not fair to have them passive, free stacks or no.
I'll also try that console command Rex, thanks for that.
Actually, that is true. Their opponents would benefit much more from them beeing passive than beeing led somehow - even if it is just by the AI.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Good point, Phonicsmonkey.
Moors
Doomed? AI? I think you've been colluding with those dastardly Danes! Did you not see my grand master plan unfolding before you, leading to sure-fire domination by the norwegian Viking over the continent. Hmph! :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
But honestly, I thought I still had a least a turn or two worth of fight in me? Did Denmark really get to my western Norwegian armies that quickly?
Either way, congratulations to him and apologies that I could not put up a better fight and in person (though on second thought, those two may have been mutually exclusive). I'll let you guys know when I'm back from Germany if there's still a need for another player.
My assessment was based on the fact that you had no siege weapons or spies and no way to recruit either. With his armies massing on your border in forts and at sea on ships, with siege equipment and with only a couple of your settlements left I didn't see any outcome except the inevitable death of Norway.Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
Sorry if I underestimated your capabilities!
This game has several very powerful factions and alliances going on. At some point we will have a world war I reckon. :yes: