Well shut me up, somebody finally said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
I should have gone with Rumpelstiltskin. That :daisy: is hard to spell and pronounce.
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Well shut me up, somebody finally said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
I should have gone with Rumpelstiltskin. That :daisy: is hard to spell and pronounce.
Your actions? what actions? the only thing we have here is you and Atpg talking about something that perhaps happened in a private conversation the rest of us is not aware of, and now you are telling people to reveal to you based on that? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
I have questions, have you been contacted by the person who blocked you? Anyone knows why were you blocked?
I feel like ATPG is trying to sell me something, but out of nowhere comes Kage trying to sell me something else. Now they're fighting amongst themselves to decide who should sell me something and I'm left bewildered on the sidelines with nothing.
Aargh, my head hurts. I just don't get the impression that ATPG is scum, but equally I feel that Kage is just a townie trying to push what he sees as a valid case (no doubt both of them are chuckling in their evil lairs at this). Thus, I'm going to have to fall back on my earlier FoS and unvote, vote: Lewwyn.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't quite understand this reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
I completely agree with this. I'm not sure who to vote for at all, simply because I feel like I'm not getting all of the story, that there's too much going on in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Based off the thread solely, however, the person who most strikes me as scum is BSmith.
Vote: BSmith.
What kinds? You being more specific would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I don't think Kage or ATPG should be lynched.
Kage reacted the way I would of expected him to under the circumstances.
Even if ATPG is neutral(or whatever he may be at this point, I'm not quite sure) he is willing to work with the town, so there is no point in lynching him if he is cooperating. Given the option he would rather work with the town I think.
In my opinion Lewwyn is a good lynch based on the way he reacted to my vote and how he has acted overall so far. I don't think I've ever played with Lewwyn before so I don't really know. I can't comment on BSmith since I don't really know why people are voting for him.
Put some pressure, he was giving hints about his night actions...Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
I don't either. If I was scum, why would I stick my neck out and make such a controversial vote? I wouldn't. I'd stay in the shadows and let it play out naturally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Engaging with ATPG is playing with fire. I don't think I'd risk getting burned if I was scum.
Me neither.... unvote; vote: abstainQuote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
I don't think voting for openly neutral somewhat scummy ATPG is a particularly controversial move. You're painting it as such in retrospect, but it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
"If I were scum" is another one of those defenses scum use far too often. Your defense is essentially: That thing I'm doing is risky, and I never take risks as a scum. What if it's not particularly risky, and what about if you do take risks as a scumbag? I don't buy the narrative you're selling.
You have to figure that I've got protection at night, so how else do you kill me? Someone can take one for the team and accuse me. Cults expand. Losing one member in exchange for a hostile, powerful, investigator Pizzaguy is a very safe trade.
No, you're not going to wiggle out of this one so easily.
Well, Pizza, you yourself said we'd all be power roles, no?Quote:
Secondly, Kagemusha isn't reading townie here. He's not reading anything much of anything yet, but since he's on the chopping block and has already admitted he's a power role, why has he abstained from saying which one?
It's also interesting that you are systematically attacking guys as soon as it becomes personally expedient.
Uhhh, the way you keep emphasizing your neutrality is giving me some flashbacks.Quote:
I also openly declared neutral
:daisy: the pain away...
Your character, Pizza. :stare:Quote:
There's nothing further to be gained from pressuring me.
WHO ARE YOU?
Already falling back into that role, eh? Think we'll fall for it so easily this time?Quote:
I can also help connect the doctors to each other without revealing them to the mafia.
What about me, eh? :shifty:Quote:
I already know is the identity of myself, a doctor, a neutral, and my scan result. It's hardly game-ending stuff. But quit telling me stuff.
Are you threatening us, Lord Sidious?Quote:
unvote, vote: Abstain
Do as you will. But I can't make a town-neutral alliance work when all I ever get is this stubbornness.
And trust me, you'll regret not using every resource at your disposal in a cult game. How you deal with this is an indicator of how the other neutrals should play. Should they even attempt to assist the town, or like the dead canary in the coal mine that I'm about to be, will they high-tail it out of townie-ville and just assume they're going to either die and lose the game, or end up as a winning scumbag, dead or not?
You're making very bad choices here, Kagemusha. I can't save myself, but I also can't help protect you from the cults when I'm gone. And I'm telling you, other survivalists won't look on the town as a friend here, if you kill me. Once again, town can choose to try to live, or it can divide itself along partisan lines, and watch the neutrals flee out of basic survival instinct. Learn anything from Capo, it's that a town divided against itself cannot stand, and like it or not, neutrals count as townies as far as game balance is concerned. And your "full" townies weren't incorruptible either in the last game, so you're fooling yourself if you think that regular townies are any better than I am.
Think carefully, because I'd rather be useful help, than a Cassandra who told you so.
Unvote; Vote: ATPG
I do not want Lewwyn lynched. Better Pizza than him.
I find it interesting that you find it interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Can you be a little more vague? I'm not sure that I'm not following you.
I am your father.Quote:
Your character, Pizza. :stare:
WHO ARE YOU?
Pizza was a meanie in Capo. Therefore Pizza should die in this game, YAY.Quote:
Already falling back into that role, eh? Think we'll fall for it so easily this time?
You claimed to be a townie. Everyone by default is assumed to claim townie by default. You revealed no useful info.Quote:
What about me, eh? :shifty:
Yeah, because you're threatening me first. Derp. :rolleyes:Quote:
Are you threatening us, Lord Sidious?
unvote, vote: Lewwyn.Quote:
I do not want Lewwyn lynched. Better Pizza than him.
I do not want to be lynched, and your precious Lewwyn can burn in perdition.
I was rather more specific.Quote:
You claimed to be a townie. Everyone by default is assumed to claim townie by default. You revealed no useful info.
Pizza with plurality of votes: LYNCH MEQuote:
Yeah, because you're threatening me first. Derp.
Pizza with 1 or 2 votes: YOU WILL ALL PAY THE PRICE FOR YOUR LACK OF VISION
:thinking:
Better a townie than a neutral who will turn at the drop of a hat. Will turn in a game based on involuntary conversions. :no:Quote:
Pizza was a meanie in Capo. Therefore Pizza should die in this game, YAY.
How do you know they're involuntary?
Aren't all cult games?
I'm looking for hyoo-mons. It's not just my survival but the survival of other hyoo-mons that concerns me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
That said, there's nothing in my role which says anyone has to die, it just says the hyoo-mons have to live.
It was still worth putting him through the wringer, because after he acted scummily, he started squeezing out droplets of townie-ness.Quote:
I don't think Kage or ATPG should be lynched.
Kage reacted the way I would of expected him to under the circumstances.
Depends, really. Everyone attacking me today can't be mafia, so the townies are giving me every incentive to get my win conditions changed from survival to scum victory. If I can't survive, then what's left for me?Quote:
Even if ATPG is neutral(or whatever he may be at this point, I'm not quite sure) he is willing to work with the town, so there is no point in lynching him if he is cooperating. Given the option he would rather work with the town I think.
That said, I'm still giving it my every effort. I also don't have much of a choice in the matter, I can't pick sides. I have to follow what my role PM says. I'm willing to bet you a good third of the overall townie population has black instead of green for their name. They win with the town by default, the only thing that makes them want to oppose the town is townies trying to kill them.
I see the parallels between his play here and another game where he was scum. That said, we have limited data. He could be acting that way here because that's how he always acts, town or not. I'm willing to keep an open mind but that mind gets pretty closed when peeps try to kill me. I am not sure why that would be surprising to anyone.Quote:
In my opinion Lewwyn is a good lynch based on the way he reacted to my vote and how he has acted overall so far. I don't think I've ever played with Lewwyn before so I don't really know. I can't comment on BSmith since I don't really know why people are voting for him.
Let us kill you and make you lose, Askthepizzaguy. Wait, pizza, why u no liek townies?
Like pulling teeth from a crying, bratty child. I take it back, it needed another negative modifier. But you, Csargo, you give me hope.
Very well, I am Rondell.
http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Rondell
(I have not read this article, btw. I prefer to play based on who is acting scummy, not what role they have)
Part of a street gang that protected neighborhoods from vampires with Gunn, but now Gunn is working for a vampire. As such I don't know if I can trust him anymore. My goal is to protect the humans from the vampires.
I scanned a guy, he was human. I won't be voting for that guy. Easy peasy.
BTW I was Charles Gunn in two games, now I'm his freaking accomplice.
Smokin Gunns, baby. I am starting to think Autolycus wants me to be Gunn or someone like him.
Oh just read the article, it's pretty brief; it says this guy wants to kill demons regardless of alignment. That's not true of my character here. I have no killing powers, just scanning ones, and no mason partners or other allies.
Is it my fault that when I imagine you, atpg, it's as a scarily dangerous black dude who metes out righteous or not so righteous death to his foes :p
WARNING: this comment does not constitute an endorsement or disendorsement of Atpg's role-claim. Void where prohibited. All roles actually assigned via random.org.
ATPG: Don't try to lynch me, or I'll help scum, even though my character is anti-scum as well. Instead, lynch some straight townies who have more useful abilities.Quote:
Let us kill you and make you lose, Askthepizzaguy. Wait, pizza, why u no liek townies?
???Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Your straight townies can be turned into vampires or whatever else too. Don't fool yourself. Autolycus' games allowed even the main characters to go scum, and there is no way he'd reverse that policy for this game. The cults are powerful and not handicapped by someone being "townie" or not, important or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The only difference between townies and neutrals here, is the difference between the Cornerian and Venomian fighters in Star Fox, the one I hosted. The Venomians lose when they die. They want to survive. But there's enough of them where if you just go on a Venomian-hunting mission, you'll completely miss Star Wolf and Andross and you'll lose because they are your allies until forced to be otherwise.
Over-reliance on useful abilities is also the death rattle of the town. Lynch scums, they will have cover roles designed to convince you not to lynch them, i.e. "straight townies with useful abilities". :rolleyes:
Random.org has great wisdom as usual. It's like assigning Kagemusha the main scum role. It just works, dangit. Hail the random gods!Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
All the neutrals in the game are not worth the bones of a town role.
Even if everyone can be converted, it still doesnt refute the facts I presented. Town X > Neutral (Racist) Scanner
My, you're a lovely ambassador for your cause. I am just glad that your skewed viewpoint can only lead to your own destruction, because it's inherently irrational and self-defeating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Now, I just sit back and watch you fail. When the cultists come beating down your door and biting your neck, I'll be eating a sandwich nonchalantly.
I'm sorry Pizza, but I reached out to you, and you rebuffed me. As such, you have become a liability.
Nothing personal - just quarantine. :smoking:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Vote: Montmorency
Everyone is confusing me. But these last few posts of Montys have been scummy and they are the ones that are sticking in my head.
But seriously.... dont understand the fight between ATPG and kage.
I didn't want to repeat Capo by making a hidden shared information network wherein I become an extreme liability to your side because I know too much, and I said this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Then you shared your info with me anyway, against my will. That frankly ticks me off, because I don't want the game just handed to me, okay? Is that fair or not???Quote:
No, because that leads to me having more power than I should in games.
I'll collaborate without sharing info.
Do you want every game to be like Capo? I freaking warned you ALL before the game not to do that stuff, and you did it anyway, and I asked you not to do it again here, and YOU DID IT AGAIN!!!
STOP IT!!! STOP!!! NO MEANS NO!!! NO MEANS NO!!! NO MEANS NO!!!!
I was willing to cooperate with you before and after you violated me with unwanted information, but you've decided that since I agreed to cooperate, and finally agreed to share my info, except publicly rather than just giving it to just you, NOW I have to die.
Nothing personal, just what are you smoking?
I may have to come up with a new account and play under a different name with a different style, like pevergreen did. This is getting absurd.
Guy - let's cut the pizza here and now.
I sent you that before you posted nything in-thread.Quote:
I was willing to cooperate with you before and after you violated me with unwanted information, but you've decided that since I agreed to cooperate, and finally agreed to share my info, except publicly rather than just giving it to just you, NOW I have to die.
I'm not looking to be your pawn, Pizza. I would have liked you to become just another member of a collective.Quote:
Then you shared your info with me anyway, against my will. That frankly ticks me off, because I don't want the game just handed to me, okay? Is that fair or not???
And I've already explained why I'm voting you. You just have a very uncooperative, belligerent attitude. So let me ask you straight-out - would you be willing to collaborate, but not as an organizer?
Eh?
Eh?
EH?!
I already said I would... I said I'd be willing to work with anyone who isn't hell-bent on trying to kill me. I said that I didn't want to trade information with everyone, and the reason why is because this is one of those games where there's cults and corruption and eventually the scumbags are going to convert someone with a treasure trove of information and it will be very very hurtful to the townie cause.
The network is the townkiller. You give me all your information and as soon as someone converts me successfully, now they have all my data. Worse, they have my data and the good guys don't. That's why this secret trading of information is something I refused, because yes, I am playing for the good team until someone forces me otherwise. Same reason I gave at the end of Capo why people should do that: Because right now the town side is the pony to bet on and I haven't been forced to divide against it, thus my odds of winning are higher.
All I wanted was to have a normal game where I don't gain access to a dangerous level of information that I can't guarantee doesn't end up in enemy hands. I just wanted to be left alone. Sure I'll vote with you on this or that, but please don't blurt out any information, whether it's that you're a vanilla townie or not, because that can and will be used against you.
I'm looking out for you, but you're not heeding my warnings and you're killing a potential ally because you won't agree to my terms, which are to not make me into a liability and don't kill me for no reason. As such, my belligerent attitude is the direct result. You're making me into a liability and trying to kill me for no justifiable reason. As such, you're being a bad partner.
So you would be a partner in name only. I'm looking for more than moral support here. Why would I kill an active, promising coworker over a surly neutral who will not turn against me "as long as I am the horse to bet on"?
Not unless there's a truly immense volume of information being disseminated. And at that point, the strength of town will be too great.Quote:
The network is the townkiller.
Risks, Pizza.
So now not only has Pizza attacks Kage, but now that there has been support for him back off and just tried to live. Obviously you just want to live and you don't care who dies. That's more scummy than anything. I'm just mystified how so many of you can be drawn in by Pizza's double speak. Look at his last post. He says he wants to help the village and stay alive, but that as soon as he's turned everything he's learned will be used against us. I have no idea why ANYONE would tell Pizza anything. I think you're an idiot to do so. But it's obvious to me that he's just squirming al over the place he's going back and forth over everything, pushing all the buttons just to find the right button. This is so ridiculous.
How much time do we have? I need to decide whether I need to reveal who I am or not.
Vote: Abstain
Looking for some real information.
That's sorta how cult games go, Lewwyn. That's not a pizzaguy issue, that's an element designed into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
You've played in cult games before, right?
What in the heck do you WANT from me? I've given you all my information and offered my vote assistance as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
There's literally nothing else I can give you. If that's not enough, then there's just no pleasing you and the issue is on your end, not mine.
I don't care anymore. Do whatever the heck you want.Quote:
Why would I kill an active, promising coworker over a surly neutral who will not turn against me "as long as I am the horse to bet on"?
:no: It's going to be a sad ending to this game, that's for certain.Quote:
Not unless there's a truly immense volume of information being disseminated. And at that point, the strength of town will be too great.
I already voiced my objections, you're doing whatever you like anyway. The end result is on your shoulders.
I wonder if there are any sane townies I can work with, or if I should just abstain until the inevitable happens.
The only person that makes sense to me right now is Csargo.
I'll vote for whichever person he does, until I die. That will make things less of a headache for me.
ATPG, you are yet to answer my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotesHere you sound very unsure about what happened - Now you are saying 3 people visited you last night and can corroborate their innocence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You have claimed that you are "one" of the investigators and to know the identity of a vigilante, protector, and the roleblocker. Now you say you know a "a doctor, a neutral, and my scan result." which is it?
Its strange that an attack would not show up in the write-up....:inquisitive:
Quick, Csargo! Vote for ATPG! :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Over the course of the round my inbox has been lighting up with communications. The information I have now is better than what I started with, but what I said was correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
A Slayer will use a stake to kill a vampire, although it can obviously kill ordinary humans as well. I was attacked by a stake-wielding attacker, who fled from two separate defender roles, one was wielding a certain kind of weapon, the other was wielding a different kind of weapon. I'm in contact with one of the two. I know which kind of weapon they had, but I am choosing not to reveal it so someone else can prove themselves if they get defended by the same person, they can name the weapon.
Scumbags aren't going to be using a vigilante's weapon, nor protecting me, therefore all three have good solid alibis. No scans or recruitments possible from them.
I am an investigator and I'm not the only one. The person I scanned is also an investigator, it turns out. I don't know who the vigilante is, and I never said I did, and I don't know the roleblocker and never said I did.
It's not strange that an attack that failed wouldn't show up in the writeup. Not every game host includes failed attacks in their writeups. But everyone involved in my attack/defense is aware that two others also showed up, and I was also aware of it. Therefore you'll find out in due time that I'm not just making this up because it will happen to others.
If he gives up on me, I'm giving up on the town and you might as well kill me because I'll have lost all interest in continuing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
Don't worry, I'm not giving up on you ATPG.
I think the group that Montmorency is putting together is a bad idea. I cannot put it in better words than that. Of course I have never liked the whole townie network.
Sorry, i misread your post about roleblocker and vigilante.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You have a wealth of information. You have claimed neutral and corruptible. That makes you a huge threat to the town. Albeit not your own making but due to the number of people revealing to you for reasons i cannot fathom.
And I am not comfortable with your posturing from "stop metagaming me" to "lynch me" to "the town will lose if you lynch me"
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Please keep in mind the non-neutrals are just as corruptible, stop revealing to me is a good plea for me to be making and good advice for others to be heeding, but it shouldn't stop there. Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.
The town won't lose if you lynch me, but the town will lose if you don't start playing this a little smarter. And honestly, the distinction you're making between neutrals and townies is the exact wrong distinction to be making. Every townie is untrustworthy and all are corruptible, if the pattern from the previous game holds.
You can't keep fixating on my survival win condition, that is less important than the other factors I'm discussing, ones that are extremely pertinent to the town's win regardless of what you end up deciding to do with me. At least play it smarter, so I can feel like I've been of some help.
Quote:
Don't worry, I'm not giving up on you ATPG.
I think the group that Montmorency is putting together is a bad idea. I cannot put it in better words than that. Of course I have never liked the whole townie network.
What would constitute a large group? 5? 10? What?Quote:
Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.
Statement: The risk of betrayal is a risk that may be taken for certain crucial networking purposes. Pizza and Csargo, you do not seem to have certain VCs. You wouldn't understand.
I shoulder all responsibility if any private action of mine causes grievous damage to the town. But that is not yet a given. Let's look back with hindsight only once it is merited.
Sorry, Pizza, I can not believe that all townies or neutrals blinkering themselves - what you imply should be done - will be a much better course of action.
I'm not responding to your request to change my vote, Monty. You already showed your true colors with regard to how you view neutrals. The lot of us aren't worth one townie.
Until that changes, who you want lynched is not my main concern. And you've already proven to me that you're not someone I should be trying to work with.
Take it up with Csargo. I'll switch if he thinks it's a good idea, otherwise I'm voting to spare my life and kill one of my accusers.
I don't even understand at this point - are you RPing, or are you genuinely personally offended? About the friggin neutrals line?
Either way, this is really stupid.
LEWWYN DOES NOT WANT TO LYNCH YOU
Don't be a silly mule, man.
To prove:
Unvote; Vote: Abstain
Unvote;
Who's got the moral high ground now?
One of the reasons I'm backing off is you claimed Rondel. I did not see it earlier due to the fact you've been spamming the thread with other stuff. Please flail more loudly.
I'm convinced that you are neutral. I'm convinced that Kage and Monty are not scum. I have no wish t lynch any of these people. I wish to lynch someone who is possibly scum. Any actual suggestions Pizza? Instead of simply trying to defend yourself, who do you suspect.
And please stop putting it all on Csargo because thats just plain stupid. You have a brain use it, prove you're an asset to the village. What else are we supposed to do but lynch you if all you do is say woe is me?
Has Kage roleclaimed?
No i have not. But i can if you guys wish. We need to get organised and fast.
Just letting you guys know that I'll be without internet access for 4-5 days. Hopefully that will only be one full day phase that I'll miss. Try not to lynch me while I'm out :yes:.
Also, seeing as I have no clue who is scum now and because new evidence probably will have come to light by the end of this day phase that I won't see, I'll unvote, vote:abstain.
It's just a game and I'm not personally offended, but I've lost whatever trust I had in your ability to handle the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I'll think about moving my vote. Right now I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn, etc can go hang themselves for being so bloodthirsty toward me. Being upgraded from dead to stupid isn't much of a promotion. I'll probably feel more cooperative after I've had a break from this thread and had a good night's rest.
You have time to build up a case on someone else:
So there's no rush. Good night.Quote:
The Day will end in approximately 57.5 hours, on 12/8/2011 at approximately 10 AM EST
Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.Quote:
I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn,
Oh my....Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.
Tally
Montmorency 2 (Erebus,scottishranger)
Atpg 2 (Kagemusha, BSmith)
Lewwyn 5 (Csargo,edse,thefluffyone93,Arjos,Atgp)
Kagemusha 1 (Captain Blackadder)
thefluffyone93 1 (Seon)
Abstain 3 (DaveShack,Lewwyn,Ishmael)
Fair enough - after you self-voted.Quote:
Oh my....
He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.
But fine, let's have a "reset" in our relations. Think it all over, eh?
I vote we kill someone who has posted but not voted yet.
That is someone who is enjoying our division and hoping it destroys us. You name a few of those, I'll vote for one.
Daveshack, Seon, Scottishranger. Dave claims to want more info, Seon voted for fluffy(looks jokey), scottish claims the arguments make his head hurt.
Only JHT and atheotes.
Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.
if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked :laugh4:
No, you're on to something with Scottishranger.
He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.
I like Scottishranger for death.
I agree. People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing.
Vote: Scottishranger
Well, if that's what it takes...
Vote: scottishranger
Will anyone follow? Particularly you, Pizza?
If you weren't asking the right questions, I'd be voting for you right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight. atheotes not voting but at least discussing feels okay for now, but needs to commit to a vote soon. DaveShack will be given a pass for now, but not much longer, to be noncommittal. Ishmael could also use a scan or block seeing as he'll be using the "I'm away from my computer" excuse for not voting. Let's make sure that's not the only thing he's not doing.
Scotty's headache excuse doesn't feel genuine. The vote on Monty doesn't feel honest, either. Thinking about it, that's the one I pick as being the oddest of the spotlight avoiding bunch.
I might. I want to see what people say first. Like I said, I need some sleep to clear my head. I'd also like to see Scotty respond to the charge before dogpiling him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I also want to hear what the other Lewwyn voters have to say about the switch.
But I think it's a strong chance I'll move my vote.
I do think the interactions we had this round were more revealing than a typical Day Two, as stressful as they might have been. So that's a positive note. Better information to base cases off of means more intelligent voting.
Hmm..i dont get the Lewwyn-Montmorency-ATPG discussion. Vote changes seemingly for out-of-game reasons.
There is plenty of time to vote. No reason to vote when i am getting answers from my biggest suspect. I am still trying to understand the reasons behind the three of you agreeing to co-operate after seemingly going hard at each other.
Jebuz my head!
Ok, ok ok... unvote; vote: scottishranger
No?
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
If I were scum I'd have voted already.
I'm seeing a lot of fur flying and honestly don't know which fur is the most appealing. I never have liked making person X a target purely because of past games, and that goes for any X not just ATPG. A few people have voted me in the past because of that 3rd on the bandwagon thing, which usually happens because I'm active a few hours in the morning and a few in the afternoon and it's just the right time to vote, like now. But now that I've said that, if I do place a 3rd vote you'll think I am scum and talked about it to avoid being seen as scum. :inquisitive:
I'm a townie, a relatively minor character who only got promoted to the front credits for one episode and promptly got killed in that episode. I'd prefer not to accidentally lynch my lover. That's enough reveal info for now...
It's thin, but I'll take the next to no evidence available and vote: scottishranger. If something else develops and I manage to see it before end of day I'm willing to be convinced to change.
Lemme catch up with this thread. Askthepizzaguy is, in all probability, the mafia.
Unvote; Vote: ScottishRanger
Better him then Lewwyn, at this moment, in my opinion.
Seriously though, scan away, just don't waste the roleblock on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Vote: Monty
Bad vibes.
What scottishranger said:The case on him:Quote:
Originally Posted by scottishranger
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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
"He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
"People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing."
He gave a clear reason for his vote. He stayed neutral in the Kage-ATPG fight that everybody else now has backed away from. So, I can't see a valid reason for your votes. ATPG makes a demand as he ruled the town and Lewwyn just really want to stay alive as he was the one most likely to get lynched before this scottishranger thing.
I'm fine with it. Mont obviously knows what Lewwyn's role is and believes his claim. Mont has the information and we do not, so for now I guess I will trust his judgement in the matter. Unvote: Lewwyn, Vote: AbstainQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
The accusations against Scottishranger are meh to me and I don't think they are particularly great. I have no intention of voting for him.
For the record, I don't believe scottish is Mafia. However,is true. And I'd like to mention that converting me, if at all possible, will gain you no advantage. The process does a number on one's memory, you see.Quote:
Mont has the information and we do not