[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

Night 9

Once again, the few remaining crew members had dreaded the nightfall. When it finally came, they all went to their own defensive positions to try to hold off against the attackers. It was more than likely for any one of them to be attacked now; no one was safe.

As usual, Admiral Dane was in his office behind the command center.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...dmiralDane.jpg

Unexpectedly, there was a sharp knock at his door. Cautiously, the Admiral got up to answer it. He stood behind the heavy steel door and spoke to his visitor over the intercom.

“Who’s there?”

A voice replied back, throughout the whole time sounding as if it were to burst out laughing.

“Special delivery for Admiral Dane!”

Dane was puzzled for a moment, but before the next moment passed, the door was forcefully blown open into his face and he was thrown backwards onto the ground. In the doorway stood a familiar figure.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...tion/Samus.jpg

“You DID order the trooper flambé, didn’t you?”

The odd Hunter held out its arm cannon, and at the end of the barrel a large amount of superheated plasma was charging up. Dane did not make any effort to get up, but sat calmly.

“No? Well, in that case I’ll make it right now! HYUK HYUK HYUK HYUK!”

The odd Hunter fired the charged Plasma Beam at Admiral Dane. Instantly, the Admiral threw up his hands and an impenetrable force field appeared. The beam shot bounced right back at the Hunter and struck it square in the chest. The Hunter was sent flying back out of the office by the blast. As the Hunter escaped, its taunts could be heard.

“Next time, your hat is MINE! HYUK HYUK HYUK!”

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Goombario was hiding in the destroyed medical wing.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/.../Goombario.jpg

He figured that with his short stature, he would be able to hide very well in the darkness and survive that way. Of course, there was another small creature hiding in the darkness nearby; one that had better eyesight, too.

Goombario was mesmerized by the glowing blue eyes in the shadows at first, but then he realized he was in immediate danger and panicked. He tried to run, but he had concealed himself in a corner, and there was nowhere to go.

“PIKA…”

Goombario felt the air around him become very hot, almost to the point where it singed his mushroomy skin. Then the creature in the darkness unleashed its attack.

“CHUUUUUUUU!”

A massive fire blast attack was launched at point-blank range and struck Goombario directly. Under any normal circumstances, a blow like that would have made a pan-seared Portobello out of him. Somehow the lucky Goomba managed to survive… but the Energy Tank he had found cracked and shattered.

The light caused by the flame had lit the room up just enough for Goombario to see his foe.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...on/Pikachu.png

Pikachu was out of breath from the attack. Upon seeing the creature, Goombario’s mind flipped to the GF database on heroes he had memorized, and he tattled out Pikachu’s description.

“Pikachu. Small mouse with electric pouches on its cheeks… but this one used a fiery attack? The blue eyes suggest Phazon Corruption. It’s momentarily stunned. I think I can escape.”

After concluding that he could indeed escape, Goombario did so. He was extremely lucky; fireballs happen to be the second-most leading cause of death for Goombas.

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The sole living GF Demolition Trooper on board was in the Mess Hall.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...ionTrooper.png

It was still set up in the chest-high wall formation that Master Chief had created, and the Demo Trooper intended to use it to his own advantage. He had rigged the entrances with mines and had a grenade launcher at the ready.

What he was not expecting was a massive pulse of energy that detonated all of the mines harmlessly. Cursing under his breath, he then saw the monster that had unleashed the pulse enter the room.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...tion/Gorea.jpg

Gorea could not see where the Demo Trooper was behind all of the walls, but it knew that he was in here. And as long as he was in the room, it didn’t much matter where, exactly. Gorea roared, and then unleashed the same pulse it had used before, but amplified to a greater magnitude.

This time, all of the tables were disintegrated by the blast, and the Demo Trooper was thrown against the far wall. Growling with delight at finding his prey, Gorea now prepared to unleash its ultimate attack. The Demo Trooper got up and desperately fired a barrage of grenades at the monster, but the majority of them simply bounced right off of it, and Gorea remained undeterred.

The beam hit the Demo Trooper head-on. The massive surge of energy ravaged his armor suit and shattered the Energy Tank he had installed into it, but somehow he remained intact.

Gorea roared with rage, and threw such a tantrum that it did not realize the Demo Trooper sneaking out of the room, nor the shadowy pool creeping up from behind.

Eventually, Gorea calmed down, and underwent a glowing transformation. Standing in Gorea’s place, the shadowy pool observed the bounty hunter known as Spire.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...tion/Spire.png

Spire began to exit the room, but suddenly a figure surged up out of the pool and struck him in the back with a burning fist.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...ion/Vivian.jpg

Vivian’s fists burned with flames and she used them to duel against Spire’s rocky appendages. Being made of stone, Spire was powerful, but in his current form he was outmatched by the rapid, agile strikes that Vivian made. Vivian threw one extra-powerful punch to Spire’s face, and his rocky exterior cracked, he felt the Energy Tank he had acquired shatter.

Feeling the rage surge up within him again, Spire gave in to the temptation. He transformed back into Gorea, growing to twice his normal size. The attacks that Vivian launched now could not even put a scratch on Gorea. The monster roared in her face and backed her into a corner. The end was near for her…

Entering the mess hall from the other side of the room was the GF Researcher.

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...Researcher.png

Though she began this trial defenseless, the Researcher had put a massive amount of effort into studying Samus’s suit technology. She wore the end result on her right arm: a prototype arm cannon.

Shaking with fear, she barely managed to hold the arm cannon still as she leveled it at Gorea. The end of the barrel opened into an X-shape, and the four blades began spinning faster and faster. Out of the cannon shot a Super Missile, and it impacted Gorea directly at the glowing orb at its center. There was a blinding flash, a huge explosion, and a terrifying roar.

When the dust cleared, Gorea was no more. Vivian and the Researcher collapsed with exhaustion. The prototype arm cannon that the researcher had created fell to pieces almost immediately after firing the Super Missile. But they were both alive.

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Living: 11/47
a completely inoffensive name2 (Replaced Khazaar)
autolycus2 (Replaced Rebel Jeb)
Beefy187
Csargo
Diamondeye
Greyblades2 (Replaced Motep)
landlubber
Nictel
pevergreen
Sasaki Kojiro2 (Replaced Yaseikhaan)
Skooma Addict


Dead: 36/47
a completely inoffensive name - Professor E. Gadd (IDFH Survivalist)
AntiKingWarmanCake88 - Diddy Kong (IDFH Survivalist)
robbiecon - Trace (GF Survivalist)
Choxorn - GF Mechanic (GF Survivalist)
Reenk Roink - Pit (IDFH Survivalist)
Greyblades - Aurora Unit 242 (GF Survivalist)
TinCow - Corrupted Cloud Strife (Phazon Corruption)
autolycus - GF Quarantine Officer (GF Survivalist)
Sasaki Kojiro - Rundas (GF Survivalist)
Secura - Commander Shepard (IDFH Survivalist)
YLC - GF PED Marine (GF Survivalist)
Nightbringer - Noxus (Hero)
Renata - Dark Samus (Phazon Corruption)
Link - Barrett Wallace (IDFH Survivalist)
Winston Hughes - Gandrayda (GF Survivalist)
Beskar - Shadow Peach (Bowser Corruption)
Insanious - Ness (IDFH Survivalist)
Askthepizzaguy - Meta-Ridley (Space Pirate)
woad&fangs - Sora (IDFH Survivalist)
Jarema - King Dedede (Neutral)
Choxorn2 - K. G. Misawa (GF Survivalist)
Romanic - Knuckles the Echidna (IDFH Survivalist)
Captain Blackadder - Maurice Favreau (GF Survivalist)
Double A - Sylux (GF Survivalist)
Cecil XIX - Master Chief (IDFH Survivalist)
God Emperor - Roll Casket (IDFH Survivalist)
Frozen in Ice - Adam Malkovich (Hero)
ByzantineKnight - Anthony Higgs (Hero)
Ironside - The Deleter (Bowser Corruption)
Glenn - Slippy Toad (Hero)
classical_hero - Samus (Bowser Corruption)
Thefluffyone93 - Weavel (GF Survivalist)
Seon - Amaterasu (Hero)
Yaropolk - Link (Hero)
dcmort93 - Lyle Smithsonian (GF Survivalist)
johnhughthom - Gorea (Omega Weapon)

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Begin Day 10

It's going to be another 36-hour phase. It will end at 6:00 PM EST on Sunday.

I'll have results out ASAP.

Most excellent. Truly climactic.

Now, finish them!

That was one interesting night.

Good, JHT is down.

Now, do we follow Sasaki's suggestion?

I'm just a townie whos doing very badly in the game.
Also someone stole my defensive ability last night. This is the second time someone stole from me.

Vote: Landlubber for now. Though, I'm starting to get suspecious of pevergreen.

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

I'm just a townie whos doing very badly in the game.

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I've seen your bad play.

I've seen your good play.

This is just odd play, though its tending back towards normal as the game goes on, Mr. Beefy.

Am I correct in that we now know all but one of the remaining roles? If so we could easily all say who we are, cover roles would be rendered useless!

It does seem like plenty of people have cover roles.

Phew... Well, JHT is down and not one second too late.

Now, we need to find Pikachu and the Samusthing. I think I'll vote: Nictel for now.

What do we know about each of the remaining living people?

Pizza thinks you can win this game. Pizza believes in you. Don't make pizza disappoint.

Why did you people protect DE?

Haha, there's clearly going to be alot of "told you so"s once this game concludes.

To Agents Bobwingo, Cuba Libre, and Fluffy Bunny:

Congratulations on surviving this long, and for wisely keeping your codes to yourselves! Earlier in the game I said I was abandoning this system because the Phazon had been, in short, "pwned." While that was true at the time, the game situation is more favorable to us now. As a result, I am posting this statement to encourage you to keep your options open as we move into the end game. We do not expect you all to simply jump up and down with joy and instantly side with us, but it is important for you to know that the Phazon are very much interested in a joint victory with the remaining IDFH players. We request only that you consider whether you are also open to such an arrangement.

I will not be so presumptuous as to issue orders to any of you. Much has changed since we were last in contact, and we do not particularly feel the need to request townie resources anymore (though we will gladly welcome them if you wish to offer). If you feel up to it, please do get in touch with us and let us know your current status. I will once again be watching your posts closely for the code markers. I am aware that many others likely will be doing so as well, so if you do want to contact me, give special emphasis to making the post blend in well. Brevity is a virtue here, as it is easy for me to simply request further information from you if I do not understand the information you are trying to convey. A time delay on the response may help as well. We are not in any hurry, so feel free to indicate your interest in a joint victory at any point over the next few days.

I'm gonna have to vote: Skooma. I know who Nictel is. I know who pever claimed. I know who DE and Csargo are. If you disregard the replacements, it's only him and Beefy left, and I suspects Skooma more than Beefy at this point.

Well to be honest I was really expecting dcmort to be some sort of mafia, if I was right I would have voted beefy now.

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Originally Posted by landlubber

I'm gonna have to vote: Skooma. I know who Nictel is. I know who pever claimed. I know who DE and Csargo are. If you disregard the replacements, it's only him and Beefy left, and I suspects Skooma more than Beefy at this point.

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I see. Then I know who you are too. My doubts would be between the two of them as well. Vote Skooma

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Originally Posted by landlubber

I'm gonna have to vote: Skooma. I know who Nictel is. I know who pever claimed. I know who DE and Csargo are. If you disregard the replacements, it's only him and Beefy left, and I suspects Skooma more than Beefy at this point.

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Is it such a good idea to ignore the replacements? I dont think the "hyuk hyuk" guy started kiling before some of us were replaced.

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Originally Posted by landlubber

I'm gonna have to vote: Skooma. I know who Nictel is. I know who pever claimed. I know who DE and Csargo are. If you disregard the replacements, it's only him and Beefy left, and I suspects Skooma more than Beefy at this point.

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What's with this "knowing who people are stuff"? Are you claiming x-ray-visor?

Seon was very against a skooma lynch when he was alive.

Vote:Diamondeye

One of the best things about this game is how nonchalant Csar is being through this whole situation. :laugh4: :2thumbsup:

4 am and I just read the entire inishmore game, over 2 hours. 21 pages x 80 posts. Bleh!

Vote: Deye

I don't see why a Town player would not be voting against Csargo or Diamondeye at this point. Both have been evasive when accused.

Also, knowing someone's role isn't reason to trust him, as there are cover roles around. For example, Csargo being U-Mos doesn't mean anything. Only a few roles can be considered likely Town (Admiral Dane, Captain Falcon...) and U-Mos isn't one of them.

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Originally Posted by landlubber

I'm gonna have to vote: Skooma. I know who Nictel is. I know who pever claimed. I know who DE and Csargo are. If you disregard the replacements, it's only him and Beefy left, and I suspects Skooma more than Beefy at this point.

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Clearly you haven't been following this game or you are a mafia placing a poor vote. It has been said many times that Skooma was not a good lynch. Vote someone else please. The same goes for Nictel.

Greyblades is right, though - the replacement players are almost half of the remaining players as far as I recall...

There was one night where pikachu did not attack. Did anyone get replaced just around then?

HYUK-ghost is harder to locate since he hasn't shown up in nearly as many writeups, but I think we might get a clue about Pikachu's identity, should he be among the replacements, using that method.
My vote stays where it is now, though. Nictel is a good suspect imho.

Speaking of replacements and bad lynches, how about Unvote; Vote: ACIN)

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Greyblades is right, though - the replacement players are almost half of the remaining players as far as I recall...

There was one night where pikachu did not attack. Did anyone get replaced just around then?

HYUK-ghost is harder to locate since he hasn't shown up in nearly as many writeups, but I think we might get a clue about Pikachu's identity, should he be among the replacements, using that method.
My vote stays where it is now, though. Nictel is a good suspect imho.

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It's funny how you are referring to the "HYUK-ghost" when everyone else is now using his real name, Doopliss.

Are you afraid to write your own name, or is it that you can't help HYUKing? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Romanic

I don't see why a Town player would not be voting against Csargo or Diamondeye at this point. Both have been evasive when accused.

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You've accused me of being a bad townie. I'm not sure what else you accused me of though. Not sure how I've been evasive.

Vote: Diamondeye

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Originally Posted by Csargo

You've accused me of being a bad townie. I'm not sure what else you accused me of though. Not sure how I've been evasive.

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Okay, you're not evasive, you're a bad Townie. :smug2:

The fact that you chose to reply to this post, to defend yourself, instead of trying to find scum, doesn't speak in your favor.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Okay, you're not evasive, you're a bad Townie. :smug2:

The fact that you chose to reply to this post, to defend yourself, instead of trying to find scum, doesn't speak in your favor.

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Sorry, it's hard to concentrate when you have a nagging dead person in your ear all the time. :bounce:

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Originally Posted by Csargo

Sorry, it's hard to concentrate when you have a nagging dead person in your ear all the time. :bounce:

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I'm sure your participation wasn't much better before I started getting on your case. :laugh4:

Oh, and I can't help but notice that you haven't voted yet. Perhaps it's time to place a vote? Or are you waiting to see the trends, as a good scum should do?

Tally.

3 Diamondeye (Sasaki, pevergreen, Skooma)
1 landlubber (Beefy)
1 Nictel (Diamondeye)
1 Skooma (landlubber)
1 acin (Nictel)
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4 not voting (acin, autolycus, Csargo, Greyblades)

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Originally Posted by Romanic

It's funny how you are referring to the "HYUK-ghost" when everyone else is now using his real name, Doopliss.

Are you afraid to write your own name, or is it that you can't help HYUKing? :laugh4:

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I couldn't remember the name, that's all. I've never played a game with Doopliss in it, I think, so it just doesn't stick. But yeah, go ahead and paint the devil on the wall, it looks like I am getting lynched anyway.

Out of the three other candidates for today's lynch, I like ll the best. Looks like it might have to be like that if there is to be any alternative to me, so unvote, Vote: Landlubber.

Skooma's not doing a lot to asure me of his innocence with that noncommitting vote post, but Seon thought he was innocent, for what that's worth.

Hmph, I'm getting a bad feeling off diamondeye but I'm unsure due to my own findings.
Ah screw it. In this game it seems no investigation ability is 100% effective.
Vote: diamondeye

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

Is it such a good idea to ignore the replacements? I dont think the "hyuk hyuk" guy started kiling before some of us were replaced.

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The mafia attacks so far:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

N1
Bowsers (2) : Samus and Peach.
Phazons (2) : Dark Samus and Pikachu.

N2
Bowsers (2) : Samus and Peach.
Phazons (2) : Dark Samus and Pikachu.

N3
Bowsers (2) : Samus and Peach.
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

N4
Bowsers (1) : Doopliss (it's a good assumption that Samus recruited Ironside/Deleter on that night, instead of performing a night attack)
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

N5
Bowsers (2) : Samus and Deleter.
Phazons (0) : (* not sure how to explain why Pikachu was inactive)

N6
Bowsers (2) : Samus and Deleter.
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

N7
Bowsers (1) : Doopliss.
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

N8
Bowsers (1) : Doopliss.
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

N9
Bowsers (1) : Doopliss.
Phazons (1) : Pikachu.

I think either Doopliss didn't have a killing ability before N4, or the mafia are restricted to a maximum of two kills per night. Which is it doesn't matter, the facts remains:

On N1, N2 and N3, the Bowsers attacks were made by Samus and Peach. On N3 Beskar/Peach is killed, and on N4 Doopliss starts killing.

Doopliss being unable to kill before N4 is a better explanation than Doopliss being an inactive player who's been replaced since.

Besides, I've looked at the four replacement players (acin, auto, Grey, Sasaki) and the timing isn't right. They all came in after N4, except you, Greyblades :smug2:

How about around Pikachu's inactivity? That's Night 5, from what I can see there?

Also, IIRC we don't know where Beskar got his scan result about TinCow. I think it likely came from Doopliss, who must have been scanning during the N1-N3 period.

It explains how Beskar got his scan, and it also explains why Doopliss tried to kill on N4 : He was the only one who could kill on that night, Samus being busy recruiting Deleter.

And it explains why he didn't kill on N5 and N6: Samus and Deleter were better choices, and Doopliss would resume his scanning duties.

Lastly, Doopliss resumed killing on N7 because Ironside was lynched on D7.

The story fits. I don't think Doopliss was inactive at all.

I find those voting Landlubber suspicious. Lynch Diamondeye or Beefy.

Also with all those roles in the writeup, I think we could easily eliminate a few suspects if everyone role claimed, but that's just what I think.

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Originally Posted by Frozen In Ice

Also with all those roles in the writeup, I think we could easily eliminate a few suspects if everyone role claimed, but that's just what I think.

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That's what I said. Nobody seems interested though its a pretty sure way.

Ok then if reveals are what you want here's mine.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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GF Researcher

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...Researcher.png

You are a Galactic Federation Research Scientist.

You were stationed on the GFS Olympus at the time of the attack, and were close to the medical bay, where Dark Samus breached the hull. You caught a glimpse of her, but she didn’t see you, luckily. You are in fear for your life, and have no real way of defending yourself. You are prepared to do whatever it takes to survive this nightmare.

Your alignment is GF. (Survivalist)

Victory Conditions:
Primary: Defeat all anti-town forces and survive.
Secondary: You are a brave warrior, but not ready to throw your life away. You can ally with Samus and help her fight both Dark Samus and the IDFH, if you think that will save your own skin.

Defensive Abilities:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

None and if I did I wouldnt give it away

Offensive Abilities:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Scan Visor: Investigate a target’s identity and alignment at night.
https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/.../ScanVisor.gif
Combat Visor: Investigate a target’s abilities at night.
https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...ombatVisor.gif

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The night before last I was given this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Super Missile: Kill through any defense (one use only).
https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...perMissile.jpg

I used it on JHT last night.
I hope you understand why I dont want anyone knowing my defenses.

For anyone about to post role PMs, a reminder:

It is allowed, but you cannot put them in quotes attributed to me. You cannot put anything (except for my posts in this thread) in quotes attributed to me, for that matter.

Greyblades' format is fine.

Can you give us some scan results?

Combat visor doesn't go through cover roles...mmm it's possible the info could be useful (like someone claims an ability that their cover role doesn't show), but exposing the results could reveal what defenses people have and what townies have abilities that makes them worth killing.

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

Can you give us some scan results?

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Weirdly enough I got my scan visor combat visor and missile in quick sucession, I used the scan visor on classical_hero the night he died and he only came up as a GF(survivalist) even though he was samus so I didn't bother to continue with that. I got the combat visor 3 nights ago, I used it on diamondeye the night before last, you know what I got, and last night the rocket took up a turn so I didn't get anything.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

To Agents Bobwingo, Cuba Libre, and Fluffy Bunny:

Congratulations on surviving this long, and for wisely keeping your codes to yourselves! Earlier in the game I said I was abandoning this system because the Phazon had been, in short, "pwned." While that was true at the time, the game situation is more favorable to us now. As a result, I am posting this statement to encourage you to keep your options open as we move into the end game. We do not expect you all to simply jump up and down with joy and instantly side with us, but it is important for you to know that the Phazon are very much interested in a joint victory with the remaining IDFH players. We request only that you consider whether you are also open to such an arrangement.

I will not be so presumptuous as to issue orders to any of you. Much has changed since we were last in contact, and we do not particularly feel the need to request townie resources anymore (though we will gladly welcome them if you wish to offer). If you feel up to it, please do get in touch with us and let us know your current status. I will once again be watching your posts closely for the code markers. I am aware that many others likely will be doing so as well, so if you do want to contact me, give special emphasis to making the post blend in well. Brevity is a virtue here, as it is easy for me to simply request further information from you if I do not understand the information you are trying to convey. A time delay on the response may help as well. We are not in any hurry, so feel free to indicate your interest in a joint victory at any point over the next few days.

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I don't see why people are not calling Tincow out on this, since it is clear that any IDFH players are not interested in a victory with the town, so you should be eliminating any of them. So all those Neutral and GF people should be working together to remove them, lest you lose to them.

Don't listen to TinCow and classical_hero's propaganda. IDFH and GF wins together if they kill all the anti-town threats. There's absotely no reason why IDFH would work with the Phazon mafia over their townie friends.

For the record, I stopped reading TinCow's post at the first line: I doubt he has any contact with IDFH, this is manufactured propaganda.

Even so, its worth keeping an eye out for odd posts.

I probably would be one of those agents if I was IDFH. :laugh4:

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pi...-thar-kids.gif

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Don't listen to TinCow and classical_hero's propaganda. IDFH and GF wins together if they kill all the anti-town threats. There's absotely no reason why IDFH would work with the Phazon mafia over their townie friends.

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I dont realy see why they would, I dont think there is more than one mafia left that would be able to win with them.

I know for a fact that if we had chosen to do so we could have gone for a secondary victory of winning with the GF Survivalists and my cover role stated that my primary goal was to defeat all mafia, and my secondary goal was to join with the Samus mafia to defeat Dark Samus and the IDFH, so it is worth considering that you could lose to the Phazon team team and their IDFH team mates ans I would call them right now.

Not that I haven't said in-thread, but here goes...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

GF Demolition Trooper

https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...ionTrooper.png

You are a Demolition Trooper serving on board the GFS Olympus.

Your unit was attacked in their quarters and you are one of the few that escaped and survived! You know that what you are dealing with here are some very dangerous hunters. But while you may seem like a grunt, you can hold your own in a firefight- you’ve had to take down Space Pirates on many occasions. You know that the carnage won’t stop until every enemy is gone.

Your alignment is Hero. (Town)

Victory Conditions:
Primary: Defeat all anti-town forces.
Secondary: None

Defensive Abilities:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Hazard Shield: Defend against electricity-based attacks.
https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...idSymbol-4.jpg
Shadow Shield: Defend against darkness-based attacks.
https://i709.photobucket.com/albums/...Symbol-5-1.jpg

Offensive Abilities:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

None

Prime material to waste a lynch on. I've been hit with Scan, Thermal and Combat Visors and everything fits because this is how things are. I'm not scum, and I'm not hiding anything.

Now, can we find a more progressive lynch?!

Ok then, unvote

@classical_hero: If I remember correctly both sides are in the same condition; one mafia left each. If anything full town victory is the easiest win as it would just require two correct kills.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by classical_hero

I know for a fact that if we had chosen to do so we could have gone for a secondary victory of winning with the GF Survivalists and my cover role stated that my primary goal was to defeat all mafia, and my secondary goal was to join with the Samus mafia to defeat Dark Samus and the IDFH, so it is worth considering that you could lose to the Phazon team team and their IDFH team mates ans I would call them right now.

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Nobody is contesting this. It's been said before that:

IDFH can win with the Phazons, if only these 2 factions are alive.
GF can win with the Bowsers, if only these 2 factions are alive.

But IDFH and GF's primary objective is to get rid of all the threats (winning with the Heroes). There's no reason to have a feud between IDFH and GF, even more so when this feud is being fueled by the mafia.

Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

Diamondeye, I wasn't going to vote for you, but I think there's only one GF Hero left, and I'd expect that to be Admiral Dane. Ergo, vote:Diamondeye.

And why would you think that?

Greyblades scanned Diamondeye as having only one power on N8 (Shadow Shield)

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I'm afraid i cant let you do that dave... uh anyway 2 nights ago I was given an ability called combat visor

last night I used it on diamond eye and all I found was this

I dont know if this completely absolves him, I doubt that this ability is fool proof, during my first incarnation I was given an ability that blocks investigtions, but if he was able to block it I think I would have not been able to get shadow shield out of him. As such I dont think he's mafia or at least not one of the people killing last night.

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@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?


@everyone: Can anyone explain how shields work? Can you have more than once shield active at night? Are they passive or active abilities?

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@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?

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He could have gotten another ability last night.

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As far as I know you can only have one on at a time and I'm not sure if they are turned on untill specifically turned off or switched.

Well, just trying to guess based on what I've seen of the game so far.

47 players

3 Bowser at start: Peach, disguised as IDFH, Samus, disguised as GF. Dooblis disguised as ??

3 Phazon at start. Strife, disguised as IDFH, Dark Samus, disguised as IDFH., Pikachu, disguised as ???

Space Pirate disguised as IDFH

Omega Weapon, disguised as GF

Dedede: Disguised as IDFH

That's 9, which leaves 38 innocents of various stripes.

It seems reasonable to assume that there is symmetry between GF and IDFH and also with regards to the heroes' background.

3 GF-based Heroes are dead, 3 IDFH-based Heroes are dead.

Captain Falcon and Admiral Dane are almost certainly Heroes.

Now, we could have one more from each side as Heroes, leaving 28 to be 14 Survivalists of each type.

Or, the Captain and the Admiral could be the only remaining Heroes, leaving 30 to be 15 and 15.

11 players left.
Captain
Admiral
Pikachu
Dooplis
Vivian
Goombario
Kanden
GF Researcher
Demo Trooper?
U-mos


If all of those are real,
2 unknown characters

12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.
Assuming symmetry, which I think is reasonable, regardless of if there are two more heroes, we have one too many GF characters. One of GF Researcher, Demo Trooper, and U-mos is a fake. Researcher used super missile. It's either Demo Trooper or U-mos. Who's our U-mos?

You can add U-Mos (Csargo's true role, or cover role) and Kanden, who survived an attack by Doopliss On Night 7.

You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

You also forgot Gorea. The symmetry is broken (oops).

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12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.

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Yes, the IDFH do seem to have a significant advantage, don't they? :yes:

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Yes, the IDFH do seem to have a significant advantage, don't they? :yes:

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****PROPAGANDA ALERT****

IDFH cannot win with the mafia if one Hero/GF/Bowser is still alive, and we have evidence that at least 2 heroes are alive. The IDFH numerical advantage means nothing here.

Romanic, I remembered Gorea his team was Omega Weapon. He's listed. There was an odd number of players, and Dedede was neutral. Now for cover-role parity, Pikachu should also be disguised as GF. So if someone else is still out there who's GF that isn't on the list, they should speak up now, because then we'd know we have two fakes, almost certainly both of U-mos and Demo Trooper.

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You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

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Aren't the phazon disgusied is idfh, and the boweser disguised as GF?

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Romanic, I remembered Gorea his team was Omega Weapon. He's listed. There was an odd number of players, and Dedede was neutral. Now for cover-role parity, Pikachu should also be disguised as GF. So if someone else is still out there who's GF that isn't on the list, they should speak up now, because then we'd know we have two fakes, almost certainly both of U-mos and Demo Trooper.

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My bad, Gorea = Omega Weapon.

I'll double check your numbers quickly and will tell you what I think.

Well, Shadow Peach was disguised as Jill Valentine, so no, Bowser's folks aren't always disguised as GF.

I need to listen to myself. I just said that for symmetry, both Pikachu and Dooplis need to be GF. I think that's right, and if only one is, that should be Dooplis. So why did I stop voting DE?
Unvote, Vote: DE

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IDFH cannot win with the mafia if one Hero/GF/Bowser is still alive, and we have evidence that at least 2 heroes are alive. The IDFH numerical advantage means nothing here.

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Absolutely true. Like I said, we don't expect people to join in with us now. There are several days left to go. We only ask our IDFH friends to consider their options as the rest of you lot are butchered like swine.

Also, DE's a GF Hero, which there shouldn't be any more of, ignoring Dane. His role is an obvious fake. He should be lynched, regardless of whether he's Doopliss or Pikachu.

By my count, the dead bodies are:

12 GF (+ one, if we count Deleter who was converted)
10 IDFH (not 9)
6 Heroes
3 Bowsers (with one recruited GF)
2 Phazons
1 Omega Weapon
1 Space Pirate
1 Neutral
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36 total

Cover roles count:
5 IDFH (Dedede, Ridley, Peach, Dark Samus, Cloud Strife)
2 GF (Gorea, Samus)

Conclusions:
* If the IDFH and GF teams started balanced, IDFH has 3 more remaining members alive.
* Cover roles can't have started balanced, unless there's a remaining anti-Town with a GF cover role.

With these conclusions, it's very likely that most, if not all, remaining IDFH roles are legit. Conversely, GF roles are our best suspects. Not sure where the Hero claims fit in this (Diamondeye), but I thought we should at least see one.

Interesting perspective autolycus, good thinking. :smile:

Known roles
U-Mos (Csargo) should be GF.
GF Demo Trooper (DE) claimed to be Hero (should be GF, like Sasaki pointed out).
GF Researcher (Greyblades) is GF.
Goombario (autolycus) is IDFH.
Kanden (???) should be GF.
Vivian (???) should be IDFH.
Captain Falcon (???) should be Hero or IDFH.
Admiral Dane (???) should be Hero or IDFH.

U-Mos and Kanden are good suspects, specially since they both survived a night attack. DE's role is also suspect, but I wouldn't mind a major switch to lynch Csargo.

Another thought,

So far all the killers were seen killing as their true role

CH killed as Samus, not as Ghor.
Ironside killed as The Deleter, not James Pierce.
etc...

Last night we've seen the GF Researcher perform a kill, so I would think the role is legit, not a cover role.

Thus, Greyblades should be Townie.

Make sense?

Yeah, that does, but your last line in the post before has confused me.

You listed U-Mos and Kanden as non mafia roles, yet you say they are good suspects?

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Yeah, that does, but your last line in the post before has confused me.

You listed U-Mos and Kanden as non mafia roles, yet you say they are good suspects?

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I changed it for "Known Roles". These roles can be cover roles, so yes, some may be suspects.

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I changed it for "Known Roles". These roles can be cover roles, so yes, some may be suspects.

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Ah, that makes sense.

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Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

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Almost. But I mainly agree with the rest.

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You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

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Hi, my name is U-Mos and I'm a Hero :shame:

Vote:DE sleep time

Add in Siegfried from soul caliber :bow:

I'm trying to follow what everyone is saying but I still don't understand even the basic premise of what the lore is of the game. Vote: DE

Tbh, I really should have passed on taking this role as a replacement, but Fluffy's amazing posts more than make up for it.

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I'm trying to follow what everyone is saying but I still don't understand even the basic premise of what the lore is of the game. Vote: DE

Tbh, I really should have passed on taking this role as a replacement, but Fluffy's amazing posts more than make up for it.

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Cheap excuse alert? Moreover you don't need lore to send in kill orders me thinks. Who are you?

So both Csargo and DE claim to be GF based hero's. I find it more likely U-Mos to be a hero than a GF Demo Trooper. How come all the other GF Hero's have a specific name but DE's is just a general one? Alternatively, go by the "mafia look similar to their cover role theory", whoever Goombario is has a shot at being Dooplis.

So lynch DE, but if he turns up non-Dooplis, look for Goombario.

Alright, I can agree with that. Unvote, vote: Diamondeye