Al sips is a better lynch than Murska. Just check the post where he voted me
Please read the post I just made. Quality of lynch no longer matters.
10-06-2016, 02:57
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Ok, but just so you know if we lose and you are not mafia and Murska is I am blaming you for the loss.
Switch to Al and you can blame me if he is town and we lose the game.
10-06-2016, 02:57
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Switch to Al and you can blame me if he is town and we lose the game.
But even if we do, we still have 4 on one target and cannot win.
10-06-2016, 02:58
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Disregard that, if not all of the mafia are awake then we can win. Honestly there is a decent chance that Al is mafia, but I feel Murska more strongly.
10-06-2016, 02:58
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
At least it would be the right choice. And gives us a better chance for tomorrow if we can pull it off
10-06-2016, 02:59
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Vote: Murska
10-06-2016, 02:59
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
So have you chosen to live by the Pizza, so shall you come to die by the Pizza.
Amen and pass the breadcrumbs.
10-06-2016, 02:59
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
(for the record my vote was always ending on Murska, I just wanted to see if my change would spark movement)
I think we lost. Zack might just be leaving us in suspense for a night.
it's what I normally do as host
10-06-2016, 03:06
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I think we lost. Zack might just be leaving us in suspense for a night.
it's what I normally do as host
You can't be serious. That's horrible!
10-06-2016, 03:07
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Welcome to the .Org and the Gameroom, still occasionally your personal slice of suspense and hell.
10-06-2016, 03:28
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Crap crap crap....
So.... I suggest still town submit orders for the night, it will be over when it's over, not earlier!
------
And a question to the marvelous scum team, as the Kumquat theory worked so flawlessly in your favor, would you consider killing me the last? Or at least, before Pelican? :clown:
10-06-2016, 05:34
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Why would the game end?
10-06-2016, 05:39
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Um, because we were told it might be lylo?
10-06-2016, 06:24
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Um, because we were told it might be lylo?
it was only a potential Lylo.
8 alive with 3 scum and 1 neutral is the most likely scenario.
or there is more than 1 neutral and they are some conflicting win conditions.
But i am going to assume 4 town, 3 scum and 1 neutral alive at this point. So scum need to kill tonight to win.
There are a few things that might prevent the scum from getting the necessary kill.
10-06-2016, 06:29
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
the scum team is probably Al Sipsclar - Pizza - GH.
the remaining townies are Dp101, Pelican, Monty and atheotes. If they have a role blocker, the scum can simply roleblock me and kill Dp101 or Pelican. Game over.
But based on Quat's claim, he can also protect. He might play along with the scum or probably has his own interests and will protect a robot (or Fry) who might be targeted by scum.
10-06-2016, 09:02
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
the scum team is probably Al Sipsclar - Pizza - GH.
the remaining townies are Dp101, Pelican, Monty and atheotes. If they have a role blocker, the scum can simply roleblock me and kill Dp101 or Pelican. Game over.
But based on Quat's claim, he can also protect. He might play along with the scum or probably has his own interests and will protect a robot (or Fry) who might be targeted by scum.
I only can protect Fry at the moment, apart that is what I want, my ability works that way, I don't have choices. And in all honesty I've played along with both but mostly with town because is just nearly freaking impossible play along with a mafia team where their identities and roles are unknown to you, except the casual hint in the form of a brick in the face.
10-06-2016, 09:42
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
I only can protect Fry at the moment, apart that is what I want, my ability works that way, I don't have choices. And in all honesty I've played along with both but mostly with town because is just nearly freaking impossible play along with a mafia team where their identities and roles are unknown to you, except the casual hint in the form of a brick in the face.
I guess it narrows down who gets killed. was the Crimson day vig a 1-time ability?
10-06-2016, 14:32
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
I guess it narrows down who gets killed. was the Crimson day vig a 1-time ability?
Uh!? That wasn't me! I can't kill!
10-06-2016, 16:07
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
the scum team is probably Al Sipsclar - Pizza - GH.
the remaining townies are Dp101, Pelican, Monty and atheotes. If they have a role blocker, the scum can simply roleblock me and kill Dp101 or Pelican. Game over.
But based on Quat's claim, he can also protect. He might play along with the scum or probably has his own interests and will protect a robot (or Fry) who might be targeted by scum.
If it is GH then the game is over because he's the only one who can stop a kill on me.
Mafia know I'm town, and pretty much no one else does. So, gg. I stunk up the whole thread and I'm truly embarrassed by my performance.
10-06-2016, 16:18
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
I have 400 posts
Can't tell which ones sucked the most
Won't matter much when we're all ghosts
The scumbags have reason to boast
All I have is 400 posts
:(
10-06-2016, 16:59
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
If it is GH then the game is over because he's the only one who can stop a kill on me.
Mafia know I'm town, and pretty much no one else does. So, gg. I stunk up the whole thread and I'm truly embarrassed by my performance.
I would be pretty disappointed/dumbstruck if your not scum. I have already submitted my orders. not going to change it.
10-07-2016, 02:15
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
So, everyone ready to find out we lost?
10-07-2016, 04:06
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
no update yet = game over :disappointed:
10-07-2016, 04:10
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Zach isn't even online, so nothing is confirmed.
10-07-2016, 04:26
Zack
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Sorry everyone, I've working all day on homework that's due in 30 minutes. I barely made it. :sweatdrop:
It is potentially LYNCH AND LOSE, so be very careful with your votes today.
If you want to move to shorter phases AND/OR implement hammer/majority, send me a PM. Won't change anything without... majority. :laugh4:
You can now post.
10-07-2016, 04:37
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
I was blocked again at night (shocker) and was not responsible for the lack of kills.
10-07-2016, 04:38
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
If I understand this right, we need to successfully block the nightkill every night until the end of the game to win, right? Also Vote: Pizza
10-07-2016, 04:39
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
(not attempting to engage now, it's 30 minutes past bedtime as is. See you all tomorrow.)
10-07-2016, 05:23
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
So Quat, were you the one that stopped the kill? Did your action go unblocked?
10-07-2016, 05:32
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
thats a pleasant surprise.
10-07-2016, 05:32
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
If I understand this right, we need to successfully block the nightkill every night until the end of the game to win, right? Also Vote: Pizza
not really. we just need to lynch scum everyday to win.
10-07-2016, 05:38
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
not really. we just need to lynch scum everyday to win.
And who are the mafia?
10-07-2016, 05:44
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
And who are the mafia?
You tell me. :yes:
10-07-2016, 05:47
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
You tell me. :yes:
You first :P
10-07-2016, 05:53
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
You first :P
I already did. yesterday. Al sips - Pizza - GH.
10-07-2016, 05:56
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
I already did. yesterday. Al sips - Pizza - GH.
Ok. I agree with you on Pizza, the others could go either way. Still think we need to finally kill either Monty or Pizza today, I don't think town would be able to stay alive as lynchbait for so long.
10-07-2016, 06:04
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Ok. I agree with you on Pizza, the others could go either way. Still think we need to finally kill either Monty or Pizza today, I don't think town would be able to stay alive as lynchbait for so long.
Who is the lynchbait? Pizza or Monty?
10-07-2016, 06:08
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Who is the lynchbait? Pizza or Monty?
Both, they have kind of been psudothunderdomeing for the past couple of days, and it feels odd that neither of them actually wound up dead as a result of any of these lynches.
10-07-2016, 06:14
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
So Quat, were you the one that stopped the kill? Did your action go unblocked?
My actions went unblocked! And finally found a freaking threat!
Vote: Montmorency
:2thumbsup:
10-07-2016, 06:18
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Have we managed to establish yet if those that get detected as threats by you are threats just to you or to town? Still, its the only real thing I have to go on right now, and I trust you probably the most out of everyone right now, so Vote: Montmorency
10-07-2016, 06:24
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
My actions went unblocked! And finally found a freaking threat!
Vote: Montmorency
:2thumbsup:
Elaborate please.
10-07-2016, 06:26
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Elaborate please.
His role I believe allows him to scan if people are a threat to him or not (might be misremembering). It might not only trigger off of mafia, but its better than nothing (or is it, could be mafia gambit but I doubt it).
10-07-2016, 06:30
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
CrimsonFox was able to kill and a threat to my survival, none of my other targets was a threat, and now another one, take your own conclusions!
10-07-2016, 06:40
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
His role I believe allows him to scan if people are a threat to him or not (might be misremembering). It might not only trigger off of mafia, but its better than nothing (or is it, could be mafia gambit but I doubt it).
i understand that part. I wanted him to describe what kind of threat. As he says Monty is a threat to his survival. not necessarily mafia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
CrimsonFox was able to kill and a threat to my survival, none of my other targets was a threat, and now another one, take your own conclusions!
thanks. I dont think Monty has claimed his role yet. Let us see what he has to say. In the meanwhile can you share all your results?
10-07-2016, 08:47
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Hold on, before we continue, there's a limbo state between possibly there being a hammer, and there being no hammer.
Until that's decided, there should be no votes on the board.
10-07-2016, 08:58
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Could someone explain why hammers are used? Is it just to cut down on the length of the day?
10-07-2016, 09:04
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Hold on, before we continue, there's a limbo state between possibly there being a hammer, and there being no hammer.
Until that's decided, there should be no votes on the board.
i dont think any of those decisions will affect this day phase. If there is any change it should only be applicable for subsequent nights/days.
Who did you track last night?
10-07-2016, 09:07
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Could someone explain why hammers are used? Is it just to cut down on the length of the day?
I would think so. it usually helps to shorten days when there is not much to discuss. ofcourse it is often exploited by scum during lylo.
10-07-2016, 09:13
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Pelican went nowhere last night.
10-07-2016, 09:30
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Note for majority purposes: Sooh and I will be doing shopping and errands, and going to dinner with friends of hers. I'll be back perhaps 10 o clock tonight.
I have to get ready. Talk things through, don't quick hammer.
10-07-2016, 11:51
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
I will be against any hammer, mostly because my activity will be limited this weekend.
10-07-2016, 14:11
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Riedquat, who do you really think is the threat here?
What about Pizza, who we have agreed is the Threat-with-a-capital-T? Has he bought you off? I can pay too, you mercenary scoundrel.
10-07-2016, 15:23
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Riedquat, who do you really think is the threat here?
What about Pizza, who we have agreed is the Threat-with-a-capital-T? Has he bought you off? I can pay too, you mercenary scoundrel.
you do realize that Quat could be scum? did you claim your role?
But Quat is indeed 3rd party - there's no other way for these days to be potential LYLO unless there are 4 scum - it's just much worse: he's selling out. He's compromised at this point. It didn't happen today. Maybe not even yesterday (when Riedquat very suddenly decided to agree with Pizza and followed his vote on Murska. But at this point Ried can't be trusted. He has the real scans on scum, and he's decided to dog whistle them that he's willing to help them lynch town and win with them.
Scum won't kill him, and town won't lynch him. So he has the perfect position to play Kingmaker. :daisy:
But Quat is indeed 3rd party - there's no other way for these days to be potential LYLO unless there are 4 scum - it's just much worse: he's selling out. He's compromised at this point. It didn't happen today. Maybe not even yesterday (when Riedquat very suddenly decided to agree with Pizza and followed his vote on Murska. But at this point Ried can't be trusted. He has the real scans on scum, and he's decided to dog whistle them that he's willing to help them lynch town and win with them.
Scum won't kill him, and town won't lynch him. So he has the perfect position to play Kingmaker. :daisy:
Doesnt he have a VC to keep Fry alive?
10-07-2016, 15:42
atheotes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
my theory is that we have another 3rd party - maybe the one who was responsible for Crimson - and Quat is scum. Tinfoiling probably.
10-07-2016, 15:44
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Doesnt he have a VC to keep Fry alive?
He's given us a few secondary VCs - obviously surviving is #1 - like keeping robots alive (graded VC), keeping Flexo alive (failed), and keeping Fry alive. Honestly, that one, with the exhortation for Fry to claim in thread, sounded more like fishing for NK a la this. I think he sees it this way: help scum win now, and no more robots die, and he himself doesn't die. He walks away with moderate victory or whatever.
10-07-2016, 15:55
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
I thought that if mafia won it is implied that all remaining non-mafia players are killed. With that in mind, I don't think third party survivor can win with mafia.
10-07-2016, 16:06
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
With that in mind, I don't think third party survivor can win with mafia.
Why not? They usually can.
Mafia typically have to kill Town, and any explicitly hostile other faction or player. That's it.
10-07-2016, 16:30
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Night Actions:
N1: Scan on CrimsonFox: Human and threat to my survival
N2: Scan on Jht: Robot not a threat/Unlocked the protection at the start of night 3
N3: Scan on Newyn: Human not a threat
Protection on jht: Successful
N4: Scan on GH: Robot not a threat/Unlocked the protection at the start of night 4
N5: Scan on Pelican: He is my friend Fry/Unlocked the protection with the result
Protection on GH: Successful
N6: Scan on Montmorency: Human and a threat
Protection on Pelican: Successful
Monty, all negotiations are here in the table, tell me what do you offer and how can I believe you?
10-07-2016, 16:38
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Don't side with the Mafia? I think you're lying about one or more of your scans. Just tell us what you know and lynch scum.
They won't kill you because they can't afford it. They would rather have you and three townies tomorrow than kill you and face 4 townies.
I have a feeling you've scanned Pizza at some point, but who else?
10-07-2016, 16:39
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Well, either Pelican/Quat are mafia or Monty/one of Atheotes and Al. Of course, that assumes that Fry needs to be town, but given that the protection worked, it's our only non-blocked source of protection, and there was no NK, it seems pretty likely.
10-07-2016, 16:41
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Wrong and misleading, again.
Successful just means they weren't blocked, unless you think that JHT and GH were attacked and that Riedquat single-handedly saved them?
If I didn't see Pizza here, I would definitely believe you and GH are scum.
10-07-2016, 16:42
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Minor error:
N4: Scan on GH: Robot not a threat/Unlocked the protection at the start of night 5
Only way I can win with the scum is if they are not a threat to my survival, as long as they can kill they are a threat.
10-07-2016, 16:44
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Wrong and misleading, again.
Successful just means they weren't blocked, unless you think that JHT and GH were attacked and that Riedquat single-handedly saved them?
If I didn't see Pizza here, I would definitely believe you and GH are scum.
I know that success doesn't mean it blocked something, but the fact remains that something caused the lack of NK.
10-07-2016, 16:49
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Atheotes has claimed a protective ability.
10-07-2016, 16:51
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Only way I can win with the scum is if they are not a threat to my survival, as long as they can kill they are a threat.
Your posted role PM does not say that.
10-07-2016, 17:05
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Your posted role PM does not say that.
No, but tell me then, how can I interpret the results of my scans? I do find threats to my survival, one could kill and was townie, what do you do to be a threat to me?