I don't believe you. Clown britches are a one-way ticket to adult-oriented good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
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I don't believe you. Clown britches are a one-way ticket to adult-oriented good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
The real reason I voted Believer was because he beat me at chess :stare:
Tis a line from one of the greatest songs of all time, by the legendary GWAR, so yes good times abound but one can still be a virgin. It also reminds me of a job horror story, but I shall put that in the proper threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Lack of activity will kill this game.
What kind of activity do you expect at night time?
I expect everyone to vote during the day, that way we can lynch bad guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
It worked this last day
You're just digging yourself a deeper hole. People know I'm innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
I'm not digging anything and I never said you weren't innocent, and my entire case on you was based on a post you made in jest, which is about as solid as GeneralHankerchiefs case for people to lynch Blackadder "because he said so." As a townie who has been left out of all sort of collusion between you and your scheming "townie" homeboys, I don't know if you are innocent or guilty, but I do know this: I am a townie, and better you than me, and I'd be willing to bet that some of your homeboys are cultists.
My homeboys consist of Romanic, which was the reason I voted TLD. I never talked to him earlier in this game. And Renata, which I haven't seen online for several days and therefore hasn't talked to. That's all, if you don't want to count ATPG in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Question these two if you want to question my "homeboys", because these are all I have.
(A family member got some bad news; add being away all weekend and I don't think I can get back into this today. If I'm wrong, great; if not, see you tomorrow.)
Looks like someone forgot to send in an order. I'll extend it.
:wink:
:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
If anyone here is a cult leader and forgot to turn in their orders they should post and tell us when they will be able to so we can check back later.
Ok that's plenty of time. Let me get settled and execute your orders, and do the writeup. Don't wait up.
Twiddles thumbs.
NIGHT FOUR
The peasants got up well before the sun rose in the sky, and lined up. This time, there would be no annoying method of being woke from sleep.
And so they stood there.
Yep. Just standing around.
The minutes passed, and it was rather quiet. Soon, the faint glow of the morning's approach turned into a beautiful sunrise. And they waited.
One of the peasants coughed slightly. Soon the pizza ovens would be fired up and pouring smoke into the morning sky.
Still waiting. It was now mid-morning.
What was Pizza's evil plan this time? They wondered. Still, no one said anything.
Finally, at high noon, their charismatic leader General Hanky knocked softly on the door of Askthepizzaguy's mansion. There was no response.
As noon turned into afternoon, they suspected trouble. They busted down the front door, and what they found shocked and horrified them all.
"I wanna ride the pony...." mumbled the sleeping Askthepizzaguy.
There lay Pizza, sprawled out on his bed, in front of his tiny laptop computer. With one hand laying on the keyboard, and the other tucked neatly under his pillow. His loud snoring permeated the entire mansion.... which was strangely bare and had almost no furniture. On his computer display was the unfinished writeup for today. And pizza was sans pants, or anything else for that matter.
The peasants averted their eyes, and one of them went outside to grab a stick. As they poked the Pizza guy with the stick, he woke violently from his sleep.
"I'm comin' Elizabeth!" cried Pizzaguy as he grabbed his medieval battle axe from under the bed, and began swinging it around his head at the group of peasants. They ran for cover.
"Sorry, force of habit. You see, usually when I'm sleeping, some fool gangster is trying to kill me. It happens at least once a month." explained Pizza. "I'm a little paranoid. I fell asleep while writing, as I've worked almost 60 hours in the past 6 days. As for the nudity, my roomate has the thermostat set at over 90 degrees, and it's very difficult to sleep in such heat. Okay, now, start discussing who is a heretic and stuff."
And so the shaken peasants left the mansion, wondering where all of Pizzaguy's furniture went.
"I'm poor, okay?"
Alive:
ArpeggiateTHIS
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays
Dead:
issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif
Believer- Died going against the grain. :grin:
You have 24 hours!
DAY FIVE
vote: robbiecon
He's never voted, yet looking at his profile in the last two days, I know for a fact that he's been around on the ORG almost every day, if not all. Two posts so far in the game thread is not enough, and I also have seen robbie hiding on purpose in previous games.
Off to work, so I won't be able to reply about this before 9-10 hours.
Also, I'm not going to be reading y'alls quicktopics. I got too much on my plate to read all that stuff. So if you have important messages to send me, do it via PM.
Vote: Romanic :stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
So scummy, how are you still alive? :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
GH hasn't voted him yet :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Believer
Also vote: Arpeg
haven't heard much from you yet, I believe...
Apologies for my inactivity, I've just got back from a few days away (and you can check that; it's concurrent with information given in The Crazy Game). I'll post a vote as soon as I get the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I should also add that apparently I was kidnapped and force-fed Pizza last night for some reason, although it sounds like whatever was attempted on me failed. Has anybody else experienced this?
*Appears* I did. It converts you back to town, since pizza is the town. So obviously, there is a pro-town power role, which is why i tried to keep GH alive, because I felt like it was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
Same here. He is probably one of the "uncovertables".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka
Per the rules, I'm fairly certain this is TMI since this is new public info and you are dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka
And didn't you and GH have a pissing contest a couple nights ago, and now you are saying you tried to keep him alive? Was your mistally and subsequent death really a mistake, or did you throw yourself under the bus to save your "leader?"
Don't answer that question, dead guy. It was meant to spark debate amongst the living, and to point out that what you just said from the grave does not match what I saw in the thread. In fact, I would lynch you again if I could.
*Disappears*Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Stuka
You quote yourself and you vote for me? :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Also, come on people, look at robbiecon's profile, he's been active, yet he has never voted in this game. It's time to pressure him.
Don't dissappear, Stuka, I'm just hounding you. You're participation is appreciated.
Vote: Robbiecon
Sounds like a good start. Also curious if anyone else can verify this force-fed-pizza thing, I have yet to be confronted with anything like this, nor have I been recruited by a cult, which really makes me feel like the fat kid during kickball.
@ Arpeg: Alright.
Enough pressure on robbiecon for now though, so why don't we vote: Romanic
Look at this opportunist scum - He would never vote me when I was voting him, and when I turn my eyes on robbie for being wormy, and someone else (DE) votes me, boom, he also votes me and without giving a proper reason.
What's your case TLD?
What's your case, Romanic? If I was scum, I'd come up with weak cases, push bandwagons that aren't chasing me or my friends and the like. Since I am town I will pressure and try to get reactions on which to build cases. Why should I OMGUS you when you are voting me? Why should I change my vote from someone who I think is worthy of lynching (talking about the GH situation D3) just because you voted for me?
You've been pressuring people all game and you've never been under real pressure yourself. Figured I'd change that and see how you react. You were also the only person with a vote on yourself right now so since robbie has two votes already you were the only person I was really able to pressure.
Didn't your mom tell you it's impolite to answer a question with another? Even worse to answer it with three. :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
Pressure isn't enough to vote someone, at least not to me, you need a reason to make that vote, or else you can justify a vote on any unconfirmed Townie, for pressure only, even if that player is likely, but not certainly, Town. You must have a reason to think that I am scum, otherwise pressure alone is a poor argument and your vote look indeed more opportunistic than genuinely being looking for scum.
"What's your case, Romanic?" - Why are you asking this? I've made my case clear in the two days I've voted for you. It hasn't changed, except this new vote you're placing on me, at a moment where it pushes me in the lead, without giving a reason. Again it's opportunistic and scummy.
"If I was scum ..... " - These kind of statement are also scummy. You better have a good reason to tell people why you are not scum when you do this, yet your reason here is "If I was scum, I would do weak cases, push bandwagons". Which proves nothing, and I'm pretty sure you are aware that scum don't always act the same, and try to move away from stereotypes. If you were scum, you would try to act Town. This argument is not genuine, you don't believe this or you wouldn't be voting for me today - since unlike many others, I am making cases that aren't weak, I give details, and I don't bandwagon (well once, on CB). Yet you vote for me and it's good enough to argue that you are Town. Big contradiction here.
I don't like to go out and show my hand openly, no matter if I'm town or Mafia. Why should I let my opponents know what I know at all the time? I sometomes vote people without telling them why I vote them, sometimes I just vote them to pressure them. Also, I'm not putting you in the lead, you're tied with robbiecon if I didn't make a mistake in counting.
As I stated, you haven't been pressured all game and I wanted to change that. I don't see why you have such a problem with that if you are town. You should by now have observed my playstyle to be just that. I won't say everything I think and I will just go ahead and apply pressure where I think it's necessary. Might differ from your playstyle but I won't change it because of that.
I'd rather have a cold-minded criminal holding a gun to my face and yelling at me for my money than a mad man with a knife. One is cold and calculated, knows what he wants and knows the risks of what he's doing. The other knows nothing of the risks and will only do what he feels like for the moment. I'd give my money to the criminal any day, the mad man is just as likely to take my money as he is to kill me and mutilate my corpse. Guess who gets money most of the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
So your playstyle is scummy, therefore you get a free pass whenever someone calls you on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I'd be surprised if you were a cult leader, which is why I don't really want to have you lynched. You're much more likely a recruit from last night. But whatever, I can't even vote anymore.
Because the other Town players are (or should be) trying to judge if your motivation is genuine or fake. Your goal as a townie in a mafia game is as much to prevent your team from lynching you than finding the scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
I'm sure you're aware of this, or part of it anyway. Arguing that it's fine to vote someone without saying why, is out of place here. Congratulations for getting back my #1 suspect spot.
unvote; vote: TheLastDays
Thanks, it's what I've been working on! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Seriously, I think the higher priority for me is to find scum and esp. get scum to make mistakes, because that's how we'll find them. My death doesn't compromise the town's win as much as not finding the scums.
Now there's not enough pressure on robbiecon though
unvote, vote: robbiecon
I'm confuse
Fact: Romanic beats Diamondeye at chess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Therefore, he must die. :smug:
Someone should investigate Beliver. You know, snoop around his house. Maybe check the shed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Believer
:laugh4:
That would be unfair!Quote:
So your playstyle is scummy, therefore you get a free pass whenever someone calls you on it?
TLD, where do you apply for these free passes?
Then, listen to Advice Dog!Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Eat paint!
Vote: Abstain
Yeah yeah, sue me. Once Mafia X is over then I'll be able to concentrate on this. You try doing daily writeups for basically two months straight (counting The Campground).
Askthepizzaguy rules!
That plus I like people to be able to vote is generally why I extend the round to 48 hours at times. Some days I have a really lousy day at work and I'll take any excuse to extend things. You just get your energy sapped after a while. :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
At the reception, they're expensive though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Don't stir up old wounds :PQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
vote:robbiecon If he is here an not being active in this thread, then why not? It does not look good.
unvote, Vote: Robbiecon
Rather him than TLD.
Outwardly, t appears that it's either a roleblock or a recruitment attempt, though the former seems unlikely since it feels a little counter-productive to roleblock an inactive player at this stage (if there even is a roleblocker), which means it was probably a recruitment attempt, the failure of which would suggest one of two things; you're either an uncorruptible townie or you're a cult leader, since we can assume they're immune to the recruitment efforts of their opposing halves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
Asking which you are is obviously an exercise in futility, but I would like to know what it was about the message you received about being force-fed pizza that made you believe that it failed to have an effect; can you shed some light on that?
vote: ArpeggiateTHIS in the meantime.
How has their argument confused you, exactly? You're clearly keeping an eye on the thread, posting several times each phase, throwing out theories and pressuring people; you're playing the game better than most, so claiming any sort of confusion doesn't quite add up with your on-the-ball behaviour thus far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Back.
Secura: I'm confuse at TLDs reasoning for voting Romanic follwed by a vote for Robbiecon. Remind me not to post two word responses anymore, as it makes you accuse me of being on someone's balls, which is very offensive.
I may start to be biased toward you in this game, but backing down like this after I treated you with all sorts of scummy accusation is even scummier. Scums like to back down when they feel danger, and I think you were worried that others would follow me, hence the backing down. I also notice that you didn't write anything about my reaction to your pressure being satisfactory to you, no - you're simply removing your accusation on me to target one of the other players who had a vote on them. Plus he's my earlier vote target, making it an even more suspicious action. Feels like you want to remove the danger really.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastDays
So you were voting to pressure me - answer me this: How is my reaction to pressure satisfactory to you, and why did robbiecon need more pressure than me, all of a sudden?
Why is robbiecon a better lynch than TLD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
What do you think of my case on TLD?
So far this round I've seen you vote twice with the following reasons:
"Vote: Romanic - because he beat me at chess"
"Vote: robbiecon - better him than TLD"
What I'm not seeing is a reason why you're voting for these two players - well, you did give reasons, but they're quite bogus if you ask me. How about developping a little? Unless you feel, like TLD, than giving reasons is not necessary? hmm?
Okay, I think that's enough time. Just got back from work. Let's do a tally...
Gah, missed the deadline by two minutes!
Only 7 out of 13 voting?
Come on, I'm sure we can do better than that.
I get off work at 10-11pm tomorrow. Let's see some voting by then, or I'll check and see if there's anyone worthy of a WOG. :skull:
I'll expand more on this tonight when I have more time, but my impression is that TLD has been more active than Robbiecon in the thread, making him a (slightly) less useless townie (if they're innocent). His posts might seem a bit "off" but robbiecon's aren't better, yet Robbiecon seems almost "invisible". I'd feel better about having active players with us into the later stages of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
To be honest, I've not read your case on TLD in detail - I'll do so tonight, probably. As for my reasoning; without reveals I'm having a hard time figuring this out. For all I know I could be the only one who's still innocent; I don't mind switching "targets" since hitting scum is probably pretty likely (and I don't really think either TLD or Robbie feels cult-leader-like, but that was who the choice was between as it is now).
Ah man I forgot to vote. Vote: robbiecon
Vote: TheLastDays
So I take it we have been extended? I still think Robbiecon is the obvious vote.
The way you reacted to my vote. You did not flinch, you didn't just shrug it off and ignore it, you stuck to your case on me and generally I don't feel you're scum. There, now I told the Mafia who probably isn't good lynchbait and that's exactly the things I'm trying to avoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I changed to robbiecon because I think he always needed more pressure than you but he already had two votes on him so I figured I'd pressure you a bit because my vote on him wasn't needed at that point. Now you've changed your vote and were actually in the lead so I changed to robbiecon, because he is active on the board, he doesn't post in here and if he keeps this up and doesn't reply he is, imo, a good lynch.
I'm not sure how I can elaborate upon what happened without effectively just re-wording the PM, but I'll try and provide further clarification:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
I got kidnapped and force fed pizza, and I'm still on the pizza side.
All I can draw from this is that somebody tried to de-convert me from a cult, but I wasn't part of a cult anyway so it had no effect. TL;DR: I'm vanilla, and always was. Make of that what you will.
I'm going to Vote: abstain until I get a better chance to make a case on somebody.
I have been unable to post on the site since the update in the site. At the moment I'm posting from my iPod, but my weekday residence has no wireless.
So it's not that I don't want to post, it's just the new site plus chrome = not able to post or PM.
But how are you able to run an effective cult without the internetz? Who is your second in command?
I'm glad to know this information, but the general 'rule' is that when you're dead, you don't share information that isn't already public knowledge, which you've done twice now. I'm sure Pizza would have clarified already if it wasn't for his hectic work schedule at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Stuka
You're just kidding around here, right? It isn't an offensive term...Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Why is it that every vote you cast is on a bandwagon? Captain Blackadder, GeneralHankerchief (multiple times!), TheLastDays, Believer, now robbiecon... I really think we should lynch PR, guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
unvote, vote: Populus Romanus
As I said, it was obvious you were going to claim vanilla; however, if you're looking for someone to vote, cast your eye on PR as I have. His voting behaviour amounts to "see bandwagon, vote on bandwagon, ????, profit".Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
This is becoming a major scumtell at the Org... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
Well, in light of me having time to make my own case on somebody, I'm feeling like Vote: Populus Romanous because of the obvious and unforgiving bandwagonning.
vote: robbiecon
I have NO time. If I get some this evening I'll come back and see if this was the right choice.
Inactive player vs. persistent bandwagoner... the choice is pretty obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Several of those were not bandwagons. I voted for Captain Blackadder on Day 1, when there was a bandwagon on ATPG (?), GeneralHankerchief on Day 2 when the bandwagon was on CB, and I see nothing wrong with voting for the same person consecutive rounds.
vote: Populus Romanus
Chrome continues to not allow me to post. I am currently in IE, which has become horribly :daisy: over the past while, and which runs like a drunken slug on gasoline on this computer.
If the problems with posting continues, I may have to take a hiatus from the site, until such time as things are fixed. ( I am unable to click on the text box, on any of my computers that I use)
Robbiecon, there is a topic in the Watchtower with users who are having similar problems with Chrome. The staff there can probably help you fix your problems.
Really? Okay, I'll bite, let's have a look at your votes in full.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
Granted, this is not a bandwagon vote, but an OMGUS vote is scummy even on Day One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
You're sixth on the bandwagon here, obviously buying into GH's claim that Blackadder needs lynching, which is fair enough given how adamant he was. Still, no attempt is made to seek out an alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
To be fair, this isn't a bandwagon vote (you're only the second voter), but it does raise a question or two since you basically contradicted yourself entirely; having been satisfied with GH's call for Blackadder's head and voted alongside him, you then change your tune and vote for GH himself without any proper reasoning. Why the sudden change in direction?Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
And here, you're not even providing an explanation at all, following Diamondeye, TheLastDays and Believer to be the fourth person on the GH wagon. Scum often get lazy when they're late voters on a bandwagon, opting out of explaining their vote when it's already been done by others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
Third on the wagon, no real reasoning provided, went for the person under the most pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
Fifth on the wagon, here; having voted for TLD despite the 'claim' from MRD, you immediately switch over to Belever as soon as the opportunity arises. Another easy bandwagon falls right into your lap and you jump on it without a second thought... am I hitting the nail on the head yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
Again, you're the fifth party on the bandwagon and you fail to provide a reason for jumping onboard; how come you've thrown your 'convictions' about GeneralHankerchief out of the window and voted for robbiecon? You claim that there's nothing wrong with voting for someone over consecutive rounds, which is true, but you don't follow up with this by pursuing your suspect, instead going with the likeliest lynch as you have done across the course of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
I think the reasoning behind your actions are pretty obvious and I don't understand why people still want to vote for a largely inactive player over you.
Does anyone have a tally? How close are Robbie and Populus, and how much time remains of the round?
Why does it matter? Populus is by far the better vote, and if this were any ordinary game you'd be voting PR for his bandwagon behaviour and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
I was just wondering if it would make a difference or just make it more equal thus giving the cults a better sway over the vote. But I'm in the middle of something so I can't really check. I'll unvote; Vote: Populus and hope it's not a stupid thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
I think robbiecon has about five or six votes, Populus has three or four; thanks for the faith, though. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamondeye
Robbiecon not being able to post doesn't mean he's not a cult leader (or member); it only means the rest of us won't be able to tell either way. When he had a chance to say something today he didn't, only voted in self-preservation.
I do like the bandwagoning case against PR (minus the day one OMGUS bit), so I'm willing to even out the pressure on the pair of them a bit more and see what happens.
unvote, vote: Populus Romanus
After I had thought about it more, I came to doubt what Captain Blackadder could have done that GeneralHankerchief could know about. So I voted for GH because I believed that he was making it up.Quote:
To be fair, this isn't a bandwagon vote (you're only the second voter), but it does raise a question or two since you basically contradicted yourself entirely; having been satisfied with GH's call for Blackadder's head and voted alongside him, you then change your tune and vote for GH himself without any proper reasoning. Why the sudden change in direction?
It was obvious why I would vote for GH, I had explained it in my post from the previous day and then the people who voted before me also gave the same reasons I had, so there wasn't any need for me to restate myself.Quote:
And here, you're not even providing an explanation at all, following Diamondeye, TheLastDays and Believer to be the fourth person on the GH wagon. Scum often get lazy when they're late voters on a bandwagon, opting out of explaining their vote when it's already been done by others.
I switched my vote after TheLastDays denied having a PM conversation with Believer. That meant Believer was lying, so I switched my vote to him. Also, if I had wanted to jump on the Believer bandwagon, why would I have voted for TheLastDays first instead of immediately voting for Believer.Quote:
Fifth on the wagon, here; having voted for TLD despite the 'claim' from MRD, you immediately switch over to Belever as soon as the opportunity arises. Another easy bandwagon falls right into your lap and you jump on it without a second thought... am I hitting the nail on the head yet?
I changed my mind about GeneralHankerchief after I went back and reread the game rules and noticed the part about "other game roles", which were not explained, and also the part about incorruptible townies. After that I decided that GH was probably a detective-type role.Quote:
how come you've thrown your 'convictions' about GeneralHankerchief out of the window and voted for robbiecon? You claim that there's nothing wrong with voting for someone over consecutive rounds, which is true, but you don't follow up with this by pursuing your suspect, instead going with the likeliest lynch as you have done across the course of the game.
As I said, I never said I had PM'ed or IM'ed TLD. Nothing of this has ever come from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Populus Romanus
You interpret things wierdly.
Ok, that's plenty of time. Let's see if we have a few more voters this time.
Tally tally tally....
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Diamondeye
Intuition.
-edit- argh.
GH IS AWESOME. HE IS SUPERIOR TO ME IN EVERY WAY.
I think the tally is:
5 Populus Romanus (Secura, Arpeg, robbiecon, DE, Renata)
4 robbiecon (MRD, TLD, CH, Populus)
2 TLD (Romanic, Ibn)
---
2 no vote (GH*, Seon)
*abstain
I'll be nice and leave my post exactly as you edited it, GH.
Now, let's shake hands and call it even?