Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia

Also I was thinking about my d1 pushes. Usually I used to have at least one good read on a wolf on d1. I know my push on Sunbae was on a pr. I would switch after that wall tbh. My push on Taffy is unsolved, but they claimed a pr. My push on Arctic was on a town pr. So, who were other players I scumread d1? Early on Lissa and Manti, Stett. I think I stopped scumleaning Maple after finding out they were Manti. Or reading them at all for some time. I stopped suspecting Lissa after she started to be active and solving. And stett got more comfortable and active and It looked like they became interested in solving the game after some while.

I see two worlds

One where it is just something like ender maple and Lissa and they've just struggled on an individual level to eke out value

And then a world where we are townreading ppl like benneh who went stupidly hard on arctic

For now I think I am content to let us kill one in the former pile and see what pops out because I don't think I can do anything about the other side until people die and are forced to reconsider

Ender putting himself in the POE is towny from him imho.

He knows he's not the towniest player and he's not a tryhard to make himself one. Also as a wolf he would be more likely to use pushes against him (such as mine) to push his agenda without looking inconsistent.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

bro everything arctic has said about me this game has been so dumb

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

vote: ladd

feels right

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

arctic also capping about the hwole " i was saving a post to claim" shit

everyone knows if you claim in the last 2 minutes of day you get policy killed you have to claim 1-2h before EoD cmon bruh

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

sis youre an arsonist do you not ignore protection ???

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

njahhhhh taffy's scum tf you mean i might invent arctic a vest mfer the wolf bomb difuser died and youre an arso vests and shit dont work against ignites

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

we have a meowted 3p

lissa zelda vote with me

thats cap but meow meow let arctic die in the night

---

talk to me about your dya and ladd reads

i hate the multiquote feature on this site.

that post was @Visor

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Visor

I see two worlds

One where it is just something like ender maple and Lissa and they've just struggled on an individual level to eke out value

And then a world where we are townreading ppl like benneh who went stupidly hard on arctic

For now I think I am content to let us kill one in the former pile and see what pops out because I don't think I can do anything about the other side until people die and are forced to reconsider

---

If Benneh is powerwolfing here it feels like he's overperforming. I think less effort would be needed to stay alive as wolf in this game. I guess this isn't the healthiest take, but it's also something I've been considering.

I think day has trended down over time

Though the argument re the sunbae vote thing is convincing

Ladd shrug, he has posted on

Sorry hard to get time to post anything in depth

Will try tonight

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Visor

I think day has trended down over time

Though the argument re the sunbae vote thing is convincing

Ladd shrug, he has posted on

Sorry hard to get time to post anything in depth

Will try tonight

---

Please try!

The thing about you is that, because of your style of posting, I don't have an exact image of where you are at and why. I don't think you avoided considering players, but I'm not sure.

Plus there's a tinfoil of you and Maple cooking up the inventor claim in wolf chat. It would fit Manti's style tbh.

Is there a link to capage's old game? Honestly I dont remember a wolf game for them and I had them as v from early on and I think we're at the point in the game where I should inspect it.

I did a lissa ISO earlier and it wasn't as good as I remembered it being, esp on d1, but I don't think it's damning either.

I just don't know what to do at this point and time keeps getting away from me. I'll probably reread manti next but I absolutely hate ISOing here

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

I did have concerns wrt sunbae on the level of *vibes* and us not talking on a similar level to we have on past games, but that sort of thing could be accounted for w/ sunbae just not being into the game and not really being here for the game. I'm still processing if this could be a reflection on aligment, cause I had initially believed that that was all it was.,

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

See thats exactly what I'm saying lol

You're contradicting and counterarguing with irrelevant things, such as how katz of all people push you. If you want to call my push on you OMGUS, that's fine by me.

In fact I'd say over the years I have a pretty good track record of doming wolves into a grave when they try going on me lol

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

i eated pizza life is good

idr the name of that like italian salted spicy meat but it had that on it

eepy af but dont wanna wait till tmr so yall are getting the tldr version of my v list, im somehwere along the lines of

visor
benneh
lissa
arctic
annika
dyachei

top half at the moment, mostly unordered. Rask cfd >>rand pure (there were strong viable counters in taffy/me/ladd/arctic(though arctic wasnt a *real*, viable wagon given waza+others were defending). upon review i think dya posted well enough not a whole lot of notes, concluded lissa v likely village we'll see if ive developed into a lissa specialist but i feel fairly confident about this one, and went through arctics posts itg vs some of our other previous games and came away thinking hes prooooob v (arctic also has a history of fucking TUNNELING me, so him *not* pushing me itg and being pretty medium to positive on me actually stood out originally lol)

i did end up looking back at hsr and a few other games, and i MAINTAIN that annika is factually wrong on a few matters (the way she boiled my read down sucked) for example wrt pushes because the push on her in both hsr and ftr for example strike similarly to me (just comparing two pushes from the same player, though the game formats/subs/well the ftr game was lowkey toxic in atmosphere due to how fucked hte game was) and that her treatment of my slot was BAD and didnt have the same villagery clueless curiosity that she exuded during the hsr game, but i concede that it is HIGHLY unlikely that she buses rask in that postion as one of the most important/pivotal voters there (she opened up the possibility of compromising w/ lissa, which effectively bought 2 votes). so just gonna take the L here and conclude that the incongruity i found is probably nai.

visor is a gentleman who paid for brunch with gets him a free pass and benneh is my n0

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

Eh Im just gonna send it

I'm an inventor and I gave nl a track last night. The whole *bombs* thing is a pretty funny coincidence.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

im inventing to someone who is probably v who is probably not dying

surely i dont stack with the wolves for 2 days in a row again

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

vote: taffy

straight meowted honestly this is never village


poor wittle arcy going over here but w/e we still have 2 wolves to find (im preflipping him v because i hate all of you)

annika + ender
benneh + ender/zelda
lissa + ladd?/ender

for bus worlds. i havent thought about visor or stett worlds much but who cares theyre v

non bus worlds its gotta be some combination of ender/zelda/ladd maaaaaaaaaaybe waza but he feels pretty v but like idk he could be playing lik a psycho this game mayyyybeeeeee dyachei but grrrr taht implies my reads are shit

---

just a selection of manti posts but this last post right here is the one that pings me most from manti. Because i can see many worlds where taffy is v and the fact that manti doesn't is concerning because he's better at the mech in games than I am.

Why hasn't he considered visor? The last thing I remember him saying on visor is that visor bought him food so that's why there was a v read there. and why are annika and ben in the POE for him?

Has anyone got anything from manti today

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyachei

Is there a link to capage's old game? Honestly I dont remember a wolf game for them and I had them as v from early on and I think we're at the point in the game where I should inspect it.

I did a lissa ISO earlier and it wasn't as good as I remembered it being, esp on d1, but I don't think it's damning either.

I just don't know what to do at this point and time keeps getting away from me. I'll probably reread manti next but I absolutely hate ISOing here

---

I can try to find some of them. Most of them are low effort games with me dying d1. There are also semi-decent champs games.

I'm tired as fuck dawg how we doing

Bruh

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyachei

just a selection of manti posts but this last post right here is the one that pings me most from manti. Because i can see many worlds where taffy is v and the fact that manti doesn't is concerning because he's better at the mech in games than I am.

Why hasn't he considered visor? The last thing I remember him saying on visor is that visor bought him food so that's why there was a v read there. and why are annika and ben in the POE for him?

---

Shits not mech she's just never village

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

I did have concerns wrt sunbae on the level of *vibes* and us not talking on a similar level to we have on past games, but that sort of thing could be accounted for w/ sunbae just not being into the game and not really being here for the game. I'm still processing if this could be a reflection on aligment, cause I had initially believed that that was all it was.,

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

See thats exactly what I'm saying lol

You're contradicting and counterarguing with irrelevant things, such as how katz of all people push you. If you want to call my push on you OMGUS, that's fine by me.

In fact I'd say over the years I have a pretty good track record of doming wolves into a grave when they try going on me lol

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

i eated pizza life is good

idr the name of that like italian salted spicy meat but it had that on it

eepy af but dont wanna wait till tmr so yall are getting the tldr version of my v list, im somehwere along the lines of

visor
benneh
lissa
arctic
annika
dyachei

top half at the moment, mostly unordered. Rask cfd >>rand pure (there were strong viable counters in taffy/me/ladd/arctic(though arctic wasnt a *real*, viable wagon given waza+others were defending). upon review i think dya posted well enough not a whole lot of notes, concluded lissa v likely village we'll see if ive developed into a lissa specialist but i feel fairly confident about this one, and went through arctics posts itg vs some of our other previous games and came away thinking hes prooooob v (arctic also has a history of fucking TUNNELING me, so him *not* pushing me itg and being pretty medium to positive on me actually stood out originally lol)

i did end up looking back at hsr and a few other games, and i MAINTAIN that annika is factually wrong on a few matters (the way she boiled my read down sucked) for example wrt pushes because the push on her in both hsr and ftr for example strike similarly to me (just comparing two pushes from the same player, though the game formats/subs/well the ftr game was lowkey toxic in atmosphere due to how fucked hte game was) and that her treatment of my slot was BAD and didnt have the same villagery clueless curiosity that she exuded during the hsr game, but i concede that it is HIGHLY unlikely that she buses rask in that postion as one of the most important/pivotal voters there (she opened up the possibility of compromising w/ lissa, which effectively bought 2 votes). so just gonna take the L here and conclude that the incongruity i found is probably nai.

visor is a gentleman who paid for brunch with gets him a free pass and benneh is my n0

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

Eh Im just gonna send it

I'm an inventor and I gave nl a track last night. The whole *bombs* thing is a pretty funny coincidence.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

im inventing to someone who is probably v who is probably not dying

surely i dont stack with the wolves for 2 days in a row again

---

@Maple what are you referring to here with the bombs thing?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyachei

@Maple what are you referring to here with the bombs thing?

---

My post on d1 where I hardclaimed bomb inventor

Was a reference to the hsr game wherein I roleswapped waza who was the bomb inventor backup (sorc)

Pages 1 to 8

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Benneh and Waza were eager to play early
Stett not so much.
But then they plaid nonetheless and posted some early reads. So, it wasn't stalling.
I think Manti wolfy for talking about not remembering villagering. Not hyped to catch wolves tbh.
Manti claiming bomb inventor on page 3 is notoworthy!!!
ladd/waza interactions aren't my favourite
Return to #102. Waza talking about trying something new to ladd.
Stett's getting in the game and I actually find his interactions with Annika towny.
Taffy's entrance to the game was terrible. I can stick to that. #116 is worth talking about more than the Benneh case imho
#125 actually kinda wolfy from waza. I like waza less then I recall liking him so far.
Visor responding to Taffy in 127 feels potentially fabricated.
FIVE PAGES IN I DON'T LIKE WAZA AT ALL
I'm not sure if I should consider his fear of getting votes wolfy or not.
150 is the first really towny post from Stett
Ender slight town for shiptoasting later than anyone else.
Visor's townread of Annika is the towniest post from him so far.
I def townread waza less than at #187 and that's worth a mention. My strong townread was based on a good early impression and I'm not getting it anymore.
I like Benneh's reaction to my first posts.
Waza is more reactive than active around 200 I believe.
Manti actually posted some takes on page 8. Imho it makes him look slightly better.

My main take is that I don't like waza that much anymore. Going to do groceries and some work, I'll be back in few hours and continue with my reread.

I'm suspecting I was blocked unless the person I invented to is just being very tight lipped about it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

Shits not mech she's just never village

---

ok but she's also never wolf

what else ya got

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nebjiamn

ok but she's also never wolf

what else ya got

---

Uhhh two balls of lint, a spare button, and a paper clip

Haven't fully read all of today yet but I posted a proposed set of world yday. Annika dying is certainly a thing but doesn't affect that overmuch.

Bruh I was up till 4am last night but the worst thing is I somehow have mask by dream stuck in my head I don't even know how that happened someone just kill me

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

I'm suspecting I was blocked unless the person I invented to is just being very tight lipped about it

---

No you weren't roleblocked.

I'm just trying to decide how much it even matters, especially with how visor's handeled his "track results"

i dont love that i linked a capage game, ender quoted it, and then dya posted 1269. I don't need everyone to have read everything but like... It was less than 20 posts ago, so it rlly does feel like they're just not caring. Idk if sloppiness is wolfiness though, they have clearly had time/irl stuff in play.
@EnderWiggin i'll talk to you about ben later. I need to figure out how to actually verbalize my concerns. Tonights task (for me) is to go through ladd/dya/lissa/ben/waza and unpack their approached to the game/my thots and concerns.
@Maple i rlly rlly need you to talk about anyone other than Taffy. I do not care if taffy is 3p today. I need ur inner Moze so i don't have to be worried this is bitch3

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

I did have concerns wrt sunbae on the level of *vibes* and us not talking on a similar level to we have on past games, but that sort of thing could be accounted for w/ sunbae just not being into the game and not really being here for the game. I'm still processing if this could be a reflection on aligment, cause I had initially believed that that was all it was.,

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

See thats exactly what I'm saying lol

You're contradicting and counterarguing with irrelevant things, such as how katz of all people push you. If you want to call my push on you OMGUS, that's fine by me.

In fact I'd say over the years I have a pretty good track record of doming wolves into a grave when they try going on me lol

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

i eated pizza life is good

idr the name of that like italian salted spicy meat but it had that on it

eepy af but dont wanna wait till tmr so yall are getting the tldr version of my v list, im somehwere along the lines of

visor
benneh
lissa
arctic
annika
dyachei

top half at the moment, mostly unordered. Rask cfd >>rand pure (there were strong viable counters in taffy/me/ladd/arctic(though arctic wasnt a *real*, viable wagon given waza+others were defending). upon review i think dya posted well enough not a whole lot of notes, concluded lissa v likely village we'll see if ive developed into a lissa specialist but i feel fairly confident about this one, and went through arctics posts itg vs some of our other previous games and came away thinking hes prooooob v (arctic also has a history of fucking TUNNELING me, so him *not* pushing me itg and being pretty medium to positive on me actually stood out originally lol)

i did end up looking back at hsr and a few other games, and i MAINTAIN that annika is factually wrong on a few matters (the way she boiled my read down sucked) for example wrt pushes because the push on her in both hsr and ftr for example strike similarly to me (just comparing two pushes from the same player, though the game formats/subs/well the ftr game was lowkey toxic in atmosphere due to how fucked hte game was) and that her treatment of my slot was BAD and didnt have the same villagery clueless curiosity that she exuded during the hsr game, but i concede that it is HIGHLY unlikely that she buses rask in that postion as one of the most important/pivotal voters there (she opened up the possibility of compromising w/ lissa, which effectively bought 2 votes). so just gonna take the L here and conclude that the incongruity i found is probably nai.

visor is a gentleman who paid for brunch with gets him a free pass and benneh is my n0

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

Eh Im just gonna send it

I'm an inventor and I gave nl a track last night. The whole *bombs* thing is a pretty funny coincidence.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

im inventing to someone who is probably v who is probably not dying

surely i dont stack with the wolves for 2 days in a row again

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by didistetter

No you weren't roleblocked.

I'm just trying to decide how much it even matters, especially with how visor's handeled his "track results"

i dont love that i linked a capage game, ender quoted it, and then dya posted 1269. I don't need everyone to have read everything but like... It was less than 20 posts ago, so it rlly does feel like they're just not caring. Idk if sloppiness is wolfiness though, they have clearly had time/irl stuff in play.
@EnderWiggin i'll talk to you about ben later. I need to figure out how to actually verbalize my concerns. Tonights task (for me) is to go through ladd/dya/lissa/ben/waza and unpack their approached to the game/my thots and concerns.
@Maple i rlly rlly need you to talk about anyone other than Taffy. I do not care if taffy is 3p today. I need ur inner Moze so i don't have to be worried this is bitch3

---

I don't have time to reread every post and I'm skimming when I'm feeding the kids and such. so like I guess get over it? not everyone has the time to be as involved as everyone else and I feel like I've made it clear. I'm trying to play catch up today and solve things and like I'm allowed to have paranoia of different players because I think i've been clearing them too easily.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

If you must know, I have been getting Amy to bed by 7:30 and she's been tantruming until I get into thread every night. Then I'm medicating my very sick cat who had me worried he was going to pass over the weekend. I'm sorry I don't remember what was posted last night and this morning, the last week hasn't been my clearest headed.

I get that you don't know how to read me that well but do you really think I would kill the person I've been trying to elim in game days every night after pushing them? does that really seem that plausible?

I think it's worth wasting a post to say f*** the multiquote function here

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

vote: taffy

straight meowted honestly this is never village


poor wittle arcy going over here but w/e we still have 2 wolves to find (im preflipping him v because i hate all of you)

annika + ender
benneh + ender/zelda
lissa + ladd?/ender

for bus worlds. i havent thought about visor or stett worlds much but who cares theyre v

non bus worlds its gotta be some combination of ender/zelda/ladd maaaaaaaaaaybe waza but he feels pretty v but like idk he could be playing lik a psycho this game mayyyybeeeeee dyachei but grrrr taht implies my reads are shit

---

Yeah thinking it over some, the Annika kill amplifies my concerns about benneh here. It maintains the status quo and removes someone who was fairly unlikely to go over. I'm guessing nl got a "no where" result on someone who isnt particularly helpful getting that sorta result on.

My money is on he tracked lissa.

So not particularly help, but not literally meowted either, in either case.

Thinking I was right about dya and waza wolves being fairly implausible. Think dya has posted well today and has been fine most days.

vote: ladd

but no

this still feels right

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maple

Yeah thinking it over some, the Annika kill amplifies my concerns about benneh here. It maintains the status quo and removes someone who was fairly unlikely to go over. I'm guessing nl got a "no where" result on someone who isnt particularly helpful getting that sorta result on.

My money is on he tracked lissa.

So not particularly help, but not literally meowted either, in either case.

Thinking I was right about dya and waza wolves being fairly implausible. Think dya has posted well today and has been fine most days.

vote: ladd

but no

this still feels right

---

why do you think I've posted well today? I think I've posted all over the place and feel directionless

im having a lot of troubles putting it to words, it just feels right that ladd would be a wolf here lol

between how d1 went down and just a general *lacking*ness. meow meow this isnt convincing at al i know but hopefully i get a second wind and can actually put the pen to paper

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyachei

why do you think I've posted well today? I think I've posted all over the place and feel directionless

---

yeah you arent posting like a wolf

i think it *makes sense* that you would be sus of me, particularly the uh chronology of my eod yesterday

its just unfortunate timing, ultimately, but the rushedness and me trying to push into the game when it was sorta inevitable seem like things you wouldnt like