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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
why ender? imo he is prob the last if gh/logic doesn’t end it
I can probably case it properly if needed but his approach to EoD is pretty much 0 related to Visor, he doesn't really care about Visor, he just pokes Arctic for fun instead. But I found him to play towny early D2 and TWTBAW D1 so I thought he was town already anyway.
He's in my top atm.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
why ender? imo he is prob the last if gh/logic doesn’t end it
Gemma?
Assume I'm the villager in the scenario where Logic and I don't end it.
I'm aware of your above post but from memory it felt like, in the moment, Visor was going after Gemma because he perceived it to be the easier target and just kinda probed benneh, and then moved full in on benneh when he realized that actually had legs - i.e. it's not necessarily clearing.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Arctic
that kill makes me think jan was rolecopped
im not sure why they would kill jan otherwise cuz his eod kinda made him ml'able
If Gemma is a wolf here then it makes sense for wolves to save the Murska kill until later, else it's going to look weird if Gemma is alive.
But yeah Jan being rolecopped feels more likely at this point.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
What do we lose by doing a mass claim btw?
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I don't think Dya have been very towny this game btw, they're definitely in my PoE
Reads atm are something like
Murska
Rask
Ladd
Ender
(Gemma)
Arctic
Benneh
Logic
GH
Hally
Dya
Vanta
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
GeneralHankerchief
btw if there's a PR with the ability to clear people, please do so w/r/t me tonight, I feel like I'm careening towards being the d3 no matter what happens here and I'd like to avoid that if possible
Would be funny if gh is like wolf self watcher or something like that and baited jan with this post
:curtain:
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
But I mean, you can follow your Logic/GH path at this point, should be safe to do so even if v/v!
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
GeneralHankerchief
Gemma?
Assume I'm the villager in the scenario where Logic and I don't end it.
I'm aware of your above post but from memory it felt like, in the moment, Visor was going after Gemma because he perceived it to be the easier target and just kinda probed benneh, and then moved full in on benneh when he realized that actually had legs - i.e. it's not necessarily clearing.
no if you’re v i don’t think gemma is clear off EoD
i think when visor entered the thread he was expecting to die and just went for a hail mary so i doubt he thought he could actually get gemma killed there over him, which means there’s levels of whether he would still try to do it knowing that people would read it as antispew if it didn’t work and not clear gemma anyway
i would think visor would have more fun seeing if he could take down a villager or force a claim esp knowing that people aren’t gonna give any cred either way to v!gemma when he dies but it’s just wifom
really i don’t see how i would ever take gemma out of my PoE unless either 1) you flip wolf or 2) their claim self resolves
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Jan had some enigmatic sod2 posts if someone cares to see if therebis a soft of his results. I assume its nothing v useful anyway
I am cool with having gemma claim
Randomly rereading eod1 just convinced me.more that rask is never ever a wolf and thay gh needs to get lunched
Jan only "weird" read compared to consensus is that ender was villa fwiw
Zack wanted gh/logic/ender/dya ded
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
What do we lose by doing a mass claim btw?
why would we? it’s only D3 and we just lunched two wolves lol
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
I don't think Dya have been very towny this game btw, they're definitely in my PoE
Reads atm are something like
Murska
Rask
Ladd
Ender
(Gemma)
Arctic
Benneh
Logic
GH
Hally
Dya
Vanta
lol putting me below gh/logic
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i feel like wisdom is living on another planet with their reads but they are still prob a villager anyway :curtain:
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I just want to point out my eod was more villagery than yours by a long shot wisdom
And I don't think gh/logic is v/v
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Heya. Home from playing BSG, off to sleep in a few minutes, then work...
Luckily today doesn't really seem to need any effort from me. Or tomorrow for that matter.
Visor's role, as mentioned above, pretty much means there is a town protective in play - specifically, me. Getting any CCs today would be cool, because if anyone tries them later it's way too late for them to be believed. I am curious why they went for Jan with their one kill free of interference - maybe rolecop, I guess. I would like Gemma to explain themselves today, and then I'm good to hammer gh/logic.
Vote: Logic
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
I saw the flip, read to GH's opening wall (which had a very copy/pasta'able vibe to it) and all I have to say for myself is that I guess I randed bonus wolf again.
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So, after reading SOD I'm at:
Benneh never wolf
Arctic probably never wolf from the Benneh wagon reaction (I don't think it was overblown)
Murska (some minor tinfoil has me doubt, but he's very likely town)
Ladd next
Dya here (move her up if GH flips red)
Hally
Rask
Vanta
Gemma (I concur that she must claim or disavow the soft)
Ender's EOD does not look good, with voting on the Benneh wagon, to claiming he didn't want benneh dead to also saying visor was going to flip green. (We all know my stance on Visor, preflip, so I'd rather not go over it again.)
GH (this one is on me for trusting GH for "reading me correctly" as a reason to base my read)
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
So, after reading SOD I'm at:
Benneh never wolf
Arctic probably never wolf from the Benneh wagon reaction (I don't think it was overblown)
Murska (some minor tinfoil has me doubt, but he's very likely town)
Ladd next
Dya here (move her up if GH flips red)
Hally
Rask
Vanta
Gemma (I concur that she must claim or disavow the soft)
Ender's EOD does not look good, with voting on the Benneh wagon, to claiming he didn't want benneh dead to also saying visor was going to flip green. (We all know my stance on Visor, preflip, so I'd rather not go over it again.)
GH (this one is on me for trusting GH for "reading me correctly" as a reason to base my read)
Pronoun reminder
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
While I'm here, does anyone want something from me?
Weekends are always where my posting drops off a cliff, and tomorrow is a US holiday, and I don't expect to be here much then either.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
it was actually the opposite iirc?
he and gh both started pushing gemma hard when visor came back to the thread but people didn’t want to go there because of the soft so they pivoted to benneh instead, which was… wild to read lol
i think they might have been hoping to force gemma to hard claim initially
oh i forgot they tried to kill gemma first but when that didn't happen cuz of the PR soft they tried to kill benneh instead and then that didn't happen and went back to gemma
so i dunno what to make of this
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
Okay I get why that Benneh vote was bad now but in my defense I had no reason to think that wagon would really take off, I just wanted to vibe with Visor and give Benneh some pressure to see what happened, didn't expect Benneh to actually get in danger.
Ender and Arctic are so towny this EoD so far holy moly
benneh wasn't even around though??
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
I do agree with bolded though. But in my head Arctic and Matt are the same person and if Matt played like this he would be superwolf. I don't know if Arctic has EoD nerves like I do, but if he does then yeah he is surely town here.
why am i matt
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
What do we lose by doing a mass claim btw?
what do we gain
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Originally Posted by
Wisdom
I don't think Dya have been very towny this game btw, they're definitely in my PoE
Reads atm are something like
Murska
Rask
Ladd
Ender
(Gemma)
Arctic
Benneh
Logic
GH
Hally
Dya
Vanta
this readlist feels wild to me
ngl wisdom's posts today are really sketching me and i think her d1 visor push is the only thing that makes me not want to kill her
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
i feel like murska made a good point that vanta sussing them yesterday was pretty towny and i kinda want to signal boost this, especially since wolves very much knew murska's claim was real judging from visor's role
i didn't include gemma in my poe even without the claim because it felt like both gh and visor were trying to kill them at various points
i get that yesterday's push from visor specifically could have been antispew, but iirc he did the same on day 1
i dunno
i'd prob still kill them if they aren't a PR and GH/logic doesn't end the game but gemma doesn't really seem like they're in a position to carry the game from some antispew based on the level of engagement they have so far
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
While I'm here, does anyone want something from me?
Weekends are always where my posting drops off a cliff, and tomorrow is a US holiday, and I don't expect to be here much then either.
if you could go into more detail on vanta that would be cool
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
So, after reading SOD I'm at:
Benneh never wolf
Arctic probably never wolf from the Benneh wagon reaction (I don't think it was overblown)
Murska (some minor tinfoil has me doubt, but he's very likely town)
Ladd next
Dya here (move them up if GH flips red)
Hally - I get no agenda vibes from Hally at all, but take what I've said with a grain of salt based on who I've already defended.
Rask I do not recall anything Rask has said or done, other than people telling me that Rask led the Syn Wagon.
Vanta
Gemma (I concur that she must claim or disavow the soft)
Wisdom
Ender's EOD does not look good, with voting on the Benneh wagon, to claiming he didn't want benneh dead to also saying visor was going to flip green. (We all know my stance on Visor, preflip, so I'd rather not go over it again.)
GH (this one is on me for trusting GH for "reading me correctly" as a reason to base my read)
I forgot wisdom, so while I'd initially put her between Rask and Vanta, I've now decided she belongs more between Gemma and ender.
I've also decided to add some justifications to my readslist; see the bold.
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well that's bitter fucking sweet
here i was ready with the bollywood gifs but now it doesnt seem appropriate
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my main takeaway from eod is that arctic is a villager
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Arctic
if you could go into more detail on vanta that would be cool
Vanta's sketched me out for a while. Most specifically, P#930 claiming that they would be less likely to be NKed (over me and GH) still doesn't feel like a real thought. (And I said as much in p#932)
Vanta's EOD doesn't look much better, between reluctantly voting for visor despite wanting to vote for me, and p#1214 looking like anti-spew.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
best way to iso is click the 'who's posted' button on the main forum then you can click on the number of posts someone has to see their iso
its not perfect (and maybe not much different from what you're doing now tbh) but its what we got
i dont understand these instructions
where is the whos posted button am i blind
are you talking about whats new
im just going to keep using advanced search
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Gemma
i dont understand these instructions
where is the whos posted button am i blind
are you talking about whats new
im just going to keep using advanced search
i you go to the gameroom page and click on the total number of posts in this thread, it'll pop up a window that shows who posted and how many times. click whoever you wants number of posts