This is Football! (Closed 10er)

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Originally Posted by Jan

ok now what?

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reply hazy, try again

ok now what??

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Vote: Taffy

i'll re-eval at f4/3 if needed

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I am lowkey on board with this... sort of

also my vote wasn't counted :( im gonna complain here :( doesn't matter anyways thank god

Anyways, I started seeing that baud was playing weird and I was also thinking Gemma got townier, especially as day 2 went on.

The way baud was responding to pressure was bad, their EOD 1 was honestly kinda bad, looking back in hindsight AT their day 1, the NK on dyachei incriminated them, so like a combination of those things, to TL;DR

I was kinda feeling it too when dyachei asked everyone to elaborate on their baud read day 1, felt something was off there when i did that.

If benneh is mafia, they went pretty hard bus mode going into day 2. Some paranoia stems from me thinking benneh/baud had weirdish interactions where benneh looked like he was egging baud on ie. #172. Or just bantering. Also had a bad EOD, with unvoting and stuff... it was just weird and I would push this if baud wasn't mafia.

baud questioning Cuth about their vote on them is maybe questionable #524. I was tinfoiling that baud kept questioning me about my Cuth read because both were w/w, and Cuth was like... kinda handling them with kid gloves. #465 was said before the vote on baud later on after all as an example of the kid gloves thing.

Eh I looked back further and I can't really say that I am correct there. I think Cuth and baud are pretty anti-paired.

so I did all that on benneh/cuth as a baseline

If Visor is mafia, both Visor/baud immediately went for each others throats
I can respect that play if both are mafia LOL, but eh

Jan's kinda angy ramblings this game pocketed me at night so i think they v and chill n stuff + they "hammered"

So like, that leaves me with like Taffy, but im nowhere near confident there

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Originally Posted by Cape90

Jan's kinda angy ramblings this game pocketed me at night so i think they v and chill n stuff + they "hammered"

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It was either that or not voting at all. I would have preferred the other way around but somehow your vote slipped through the cracks of time and space.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

See, as wolf I'd expect Baudib to make a hard push on some town to get that second town yeet before dying tomorrow leaving his partner to only need one more.
As town he knows if he pushes the wrong person today we probably lose over it bc he definitely goes tomorrow.
His lack of confidence today mirrors his indecisiveness in F3s where he has hammer.

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If taffy is a wolf defending a buddy like this that is fairly telling for a powerwolf mindset.
Because honestly I would have expected most people to cut baudib loose by that point.

Just a thing for people that have more possible history to think about.

Votecount


Taffy(2): Benneh, Cuth


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Originally Posted by Jan

Kills are getting weirder.

Taffy? Did you do that?

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No, I expected you to be the NK bc that's what I'd have done. If I'd planned to kill Gemma I would have ignored her or waved her off with a "her case stinks but she's town anyway" rather than putting so much time in trying to explain to her why her case on me was bad.

@Jan why did you have me as your top town even with Baudib as scum yesterday but now that you have confirmation that the latter of that was correct do you start doubting me?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

its no one else unless it is and if it is i dont feel its necessary to sort that out today

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No it is.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

ok now what

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Originally Posted by Jan

ok now what?

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

ok now what??

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You all get off your laurels and help me solve in a town!Taffy world especially if you insist on sleepwalking into killing me because that's the position you'll be in if my death doesn't end the game and you'll be getting a 30-hour headstart with two extra townies (me and tonight's NK) to help.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i'm a pr

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No you're not.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

night 1 gemma towen

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

#fordya im gona stay on baud and hope he flips wolf and we can clear visor

if baud is v then it probably means one of cape or gemma is a wolf

thats the only analysis im bothering with today cyall tomorrow in post

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PRs don't suggest their check could be a wolf.

@Jan don't blindly clear him he's fpsing and he could be doing that as either alignment

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

this was an awesome gemma post -- click thru imo and read their points

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No it wasn't. I picked apart her push on me in posts 480 481 and 485. This is lazy from you as either alignment, you're pushing me here either without having bothered to iso me or without addressing why my arguments against Gemma's case are bullshit.

And frankly it's disheartening that nobody else has pointed this out. Read me.

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Originally Posted by Cape90

baud questioning Cuth about their vote on them is maybe questionable #524. I was tinfoiling that baud kept questioning me about my Cuth read because both were w/w, and Cuth was like... kinda handling them with kid gloves. #465 was said before the vote on baud later on after all as an example of the kid gloves thing.

Eh I looked back further and I can't really say that I am correct there. I think Cuth and baud are pretty anti-paired.

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This is by far the most interesting post that has been made today and I would like you to explain why you changed your mind here because I found Baudib's treatment of Cuth very partnering to the point that I'm considering he might have been doing it on purpose to get Cuth misyeeted after his death.

I'll go make a post showing what I mean I'd like you to tell me how I'm wrong @Cape90

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

No, I expected you to be the NK bc that's what I'd have done. If I'd planned to kill Gemma I would have ignored her or waved her off with a "her case stinks but she's town anyway" rather than putting so much time in trying to explain to her why her case on me was bad.

@Jan why did you have me as your top town even with Baudib as scum yesterday but now that you have confirmation that the latter of that was correct do you start doubting me?

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I was confused by the kill, saw the last votecount and made a joke based on Gemma voting you at EoD.

While we are talking about football..


Messi winnning Best male player in 2023 is one of the bigger travesties.

He is was basically retired for the 2nd half of the year while Haarland won everything possible.

People are just so used to Messi winning it anyway that they must have voted for him out of habit.


Anyways. Just had to say it since this is a thread about football and all ..

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

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Originally Posted by Visor

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

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I am not falling for that again, naughty boy!

Tempting me to vote with wrong votals and faked responsibilies.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

No you're not.




PRs don't suggest their check could be a wolf.

@Jan don't blindly clear him he's fpsing and he could be doing that as either alignment

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damn its almost like i'm smart and allude to situations that would make wolves not consider me as a nk

like replying to this post !

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

No it wasn't. I picked apart her push on me in posts 480 481 and 485. This is lazy from you as either alignment, you're pushing me here either without having bothered to iso me or without addressing why my arguments against Gemma's case are bullshit.

And frankly it's disheartening that nobody else has pointed this out. Read me.

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i've read your iso.

gemma's post is clean af. if you're v i can see why you'd disagree but, uh, still a clean post!

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Originally Posted by Visor

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

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i'm sorry for getting a bit freaked out when you and baud and then jan started wagoning me at eod right after i said i wasn't gonna be able to make it for eod

i thought you were more serious about it than you were (from my understanding) and was suddenly panicking that i had not actually spent time pushing baud/making the case there and that i might get yote over him because i figured it was a done deal

DADV

things have been getting fuzzier in my brain as the phase goes on

hoping to sit down and at least skim through some stuff tomorrow to get a more confident handle on where I'm at now

i didn't mind taffy's posts earlier

I'm still a bit confused at the whole i would have shot jan thing

but i guess it wouldn't have been much weirder than gemma

y'all are boring

where is everyone????

enjoying life

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

enjoying life

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must be nice

not that stressed actually i just want the itch of mafia game to be scratched and also a bit concerned atp on a couple levels

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

must be nice

not that stressed actually i just want the itch of mafia game to be scratched and also a bit concerned atp on a couple levels

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ok

who are 2 ppl you would clear itg?

who are the 3 people you would want to kill (we dont have 3 kills but ya)


i think i would clear jan and you before visor/cape/taffy

well that was exhausting

sorry i went and did stuff this evening

before doing work my answer would be ignoring pr stuff for the moment visor/jan over you/cape/taffy in that order?

which is interesting

i'm surprised by your answer

what are your reasonings behind clearing jan and not clearing visor

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Taffy(2): Benneh, Cuth
Cuth(1): Visor

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EOD in 14 hours

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

vote:baudib

chalk me uninspired

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Was thinking it wasn't Cuth for being one of the only other ppl besides dya to go after baud day 1

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

baud's reentrance was a bit uncanny valley idk how to feel about it

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this was also kinda a mindmeld with me at the time

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Originally Posted by baudib1

One of us is wrong somewhere.

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this doesn't feel w/w

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

i uh

really don't want to kill baudib if he's not here

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I felt that this was maybe ?.?

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

it rules out baudib, that's for sure!

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you know, this feels really fake so idk maybe it's just cuth

I kinda TR Taffy's entrance today

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

baud can you talk about where your head's at in the game

i feel like you were around a decent amount earlier and then tailed off and have been posting here and there but there's no meat on the bones

why do you think gemma's a wolf? who are your top town reads? what do you think about the push on you?

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the main thing that made me think Cuth isn't w/w with baud was this post day 1 when i looked back

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Originally Posted by Cape90

Was thinking it wasn't Cuth for being one of the only other ppl besides dya to go after baud day 1

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that was d2?

hope that helps

I could see what Visor did yesterday when he was jumping on voting Cuth day 2 as trying to distract from baudib

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Originally Posted by Visor

Tbh baudib if you aren't a wolf I'd punt cuth into the sun

So if you vote there id consider it

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To me I read as this as Visor thinking Cuth isn't paired with baudib

So it mildly worries me that he's voting there today

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Originally Posted by Visor

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

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though he popped in to say this, and... I don't really get the argument here? I thought the EOD was fine... kinda panicky, eh

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

that was d2?

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Yeah I quoted the wrong thing there oops, but you were day 1 still, I thought i went all the way back to day 1 there but i didnt

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

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Cuth(3): Visor, baudib, Jan
baudib(3): Benneh, Cape90, Cuth
Taffy(1): Gemma


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EOD in 30 minutes :curtain:

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I find this VC interesting

Also it ack's that i voted... i never unvoted but whatever

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Cape your reason for thinking Benneh shouldn't townread Cuth for having you as top town is the same as Baudib's reason for scumreading the fact that you have Cuth as top town.

"You have someone as your top town who you shouldn't reasonably be townreading" applies to Benneh and yourself equally.

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Thought that this might have been just a sketchy thing to point out

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

This is bad reasoning bc as wolf if you feel it coming that a LHF town is getting shrugyeeted D1 you stay off of that shit. It would really surprise me if both wolves were on the Pzelda wagon.



Also combine this with your SoD reads:




Why are you not pushing Cuth? @baudib1

More importantly why has nobody else asked this question. We're at L-2 and nobody is paying attention to what you're doing, this is bad.

@Visor I already asked yesterday but please make a case on Baudib that's more elaborate than "he's passive" and "trust me bros".

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Taffy, so then do you think this in retrospect spews Cuth, or incriminates cuth?

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Originally Posted by Jan

I## be honest.
I had no wolfread on baudib going into today.

I think baudibs reaction to this push today is underwhelming.
Knowing you are the likely execution should put you in a mood to fight back or just give up.
But he really does not do either.

There is no urgency which I would expect as the 2nd villa on the block after d1.

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I'm conflicted on this thought because Jan wasn't on the baud vote at this time, and was on Cuth until the last second

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

So first we're buddying up, which might be wolfy



though not really



Here I'm sus for townreading Baudib, and then you continue in the same post:



with pointing out where I have been willing to consider I might be wrong and Baudib could be a wolf. You can't have it both ways: either I am sus for townreading Baudib all game OR I am sus for considering wolf!Baudib worlds while previously townreading him, but I can't be doing both.

You seem to be intent on wolfreading me over my Baudib read no matter what it is and that's bad².

What I said about Visor/Baudib was a rebuttal of Dyachei's reasons for unpairing the two because I had a different interpretation of Baudib's posts and the value of Visor's push which is quite clear in my post. Referencing it out of context here is bad³

I started off with townleaning Baudib this game and so far I have disagreed with people's reasons for scumreading him, and I have explained why each time. I do not see how he is more passive than other players (Visor's read) or that he is constructing his reads in a way that's too rational (Dyachei's read) or that his vote for you D1 was scummy (part of Cape's read). I'm not exactly sure what Cuth is scumreading him for.

Asking the person pushing someone I think is town to better explain their read to me should not confuse you. I am trying to understand what people think and why, while at the same time communicating my own reads.

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If the night kills were very much about killing the people who have suspected wolves, signs point to Taffy being wolf, as they had pointed to baud after the dyachei NK

This is the most incriminating quote I could find on that

I could maybe see Cuth/Visor as more suspicious though in general

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

DADV

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it would be hilarious though if both the wolves just signaled with saying the DADV thing

Yes, I am under the assumption 2 wolves > 3 wolves, mylo here would be wild

momv

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Originally Posted by Cape90

I'm conflicted on this thought because Jan wasn't on the baud vote at this time, and was on Cuth until the last second

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Was a runaway wagon. A had planned to simply not vote at all if I could get away with it.
Then visor happened and sadness increased by 68%. (which is par for the course)

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Originally Posted by Cape90

Yes, I am under the assumption 2 wolves > 3 wolves, mylo here would be wild

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I wouldn't even humor any 3 wolf worlds. Makes no sense unless all of the living villagers have some power.

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Originally Posted by Cape90

I could maybe see Cuth/Visor as more suspicious though in general

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I don't really think visor first busses like that on d1.
Continues it on d2.

Just to turn around EoD2 for a fake rescue my partner play. Baudib was almost always dying there and he just risks all his cred by being quirky.


To me Cuth was an interesting choice because I had Visor and Baudib as likely unaligned and was not sold on baudib always being the wolf.
So getting some reactions from a cuth push was just useful and had a decent chance to be a hit.

With everyone else being busy watching handegg there was no real point to it anyway tbh.

@Cape90 So it's the start of D2, Baudib has just killed Dyachei, which he must have known would look bad for him. He starts solving and doesn't mention Cuth at all (and since those are "solving to town" posts that means Cuth should be in his PoE. Sort-of confirmed by his reply to Benneh's question here:

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Originally Posted by baudib1

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

talk about cuth baud

why's he missin from your lists

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Cuth could be anything. My concern with Cape was him having Cuth as his top town and Dya as a wolf.

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But then later when he says he wants to push in the Pzelda voters he picks Benneh instead even though Benneh was "V with concerns". I asked him about this

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I really wish we had competitive wagons instead of shrugyeeting Zelda but I guess that was inevitable.
We can probably just win the game by finding 1 villager in the Zelda voters, assuming Gemma is a villager.

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This is bad reasoning bc as wolf if you feel it coming that a LHF town is getting shrugyeeted D1 you stay off of that shit. It would really surprise me if both wolves were on the Pzelda wagon.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Final D1 tally:

pzelda(4): Cuth, Cape, Benneh, Taffy
Baudib(2): VIsor, Dya
Gemma(1): Baudib

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Also combine this with your SoD reads:

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I don’t THINK it’s Visor now but it could be Visor.

The combinatorics with Visor as wolf go down significantly because Zelda felt like the most natural partner.

Visor/Jan not w/w
visor/Cape is unlikely
Visor/Benneh also unlikely for a couple of interactions both ways
Visor/Gemma possible

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Taffy V
Cape/Benneh both V with concerns
Jan is null but I doubt he kills Dya

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Why are you not pushing Cuth? @baudib1

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which he never directly answers, though he does come with this:

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Originally Posted by baudib1

You know for some reason I thought Jan had voted for Zelda but he didn’t vote at all. It was Cuth. They both mind occupy the same area in my head - kinda null, getting townresds for ??? reasons.

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His EoD voting starts with Benneh, then Visor, and it isn't until Visor calls his bluff that he actually votes Cuth:

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Vote: Nebjiamin

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Vote: Visor

I think my reasons for lightly clearing him off the Zelda flip were probably wrong and dumb.

I am also just not convinced his confidence in the Cape V read is real, even if I do think Cape is V way more often than not.

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Originally Posted by Visor

Tbh baudib if you aren't a wolf I'd punt cuth into the sun

So if you vote there id consider it

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Originally Posted by Visor

vote: cuth

yolo

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Hmmmm

Trusting Visor probably can’t go wrong amirite

Vote: Cuthillius

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Baudib also made several posts mentioning Cuth in one breath as another player which is a thing wolves like to do with partners to spew them town:

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Cuth and Benneh both tried to spew me as their wolf partner. WOW!

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Anyway I’ll just talk to myself as I try to figure this out and maybe come to a solve that’s correct in DVC. If this helps anyone later in the game at all it won’t be a total waste.

Jan: Can you elaborate on your read on Gemma?

Cape/Cuth: why do you V read each other so highly

Gemma: can tou explain your vote on Taffy?

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Benneh/Cuth
Can you talk about your wolf game together? This is a fun post.

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To be fair he does that with other ppl too though.

Anyway this is what I meant with that I thought they could be partnered, but perhaps it's too on the nose to be real.

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Originally Posted by Visor

sup

think cuths reaction at eod was bad

Vote: cuthalion

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Are you talking about the "town backup busdriver" joke or something else?

Also would appreciate your thoughts on the above.

Or anyone's really, but especially people who have a strong opinion on Cuth.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

damn its almost like i'm smart and allude to situations that would make wolves not consider me as a nk

like replying to this post !

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i've read your iso.

gemma's post is clean af. if you're v i can see why you'd disagree but, uh, still a clean post!

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"Clean" is a waffle word that has no relevant meaning in this context. Gemma likened Jan's v read on Baudib based on two shitposts to my v read which came much later in the game, then somehow concluded I wasn't allowed to scumread Jan for possible tmi. How is that clean?

How is misunderstanding and mocking my Pzelda read clean? How is contradicting herself with "Taffy townread Baudib all game" and "here she is considering wolf!Baudib worlds" clean?

You can say she had conviction in her reads, which would be a good argument for townreading Gemma, but none of it are good reasons to wolfread me. This was Gemma's first game with me, you know me a lot better. If I am scum you should be able to make your own case, or at the very least be able to refute my rebuttals of hers.

I am not annoyed about the scumread so much Benneh as the complete lack of effort you're putting into it.

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Originally Posted by Cape90

you know, this feels really fake so idk maybe it's just cuth

I kinda TR Taffy's entrance today

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This one was probably just a joke about the obvious Dyachei => Baudib implications I'm not sure that's AI.

But thank you Cape I think you've got good points. Which is annoying bc I'm now townreading everybody.

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Originally Posted by Cape90

I could see what Visor did yesterday when he was jumping on voting Cuth day 2 as trying to distract from baudib



To me I read as this as Visor thinking Cuth isn't paired with baudib

So it mildly worries me that he's voting there today



though he popped in to say this, and... I don't really get the argument here? I thought the EOD was fine... kinda panicky, eh

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I read it that way too at the time, but you can also interpret it not as "if you're town then Cuth is scum" but rather "if you're town I'm willing to work with you and consider voting someone else together"

I'm hoping he'll explain the EoD thing.

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Originally Posted by Cape90

I find this VC interesting

Also it ack's that i voted... i never unvoted but whatever

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Raskolnikov went back and edited the votecounts, it makes EoD harder to interpret. I don't think your vote was counted there originally.
@Raskolnikov next time maybe have them side by side?

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Originally Posted by Cape90

If the night kills were very much about killing the people who have suspected wolves, signs point to Taffy being wolf, as they had pointed to baud after the dyachei NK

This is the most incriminating quote I could find on that

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For me the Gemma kill is setting up for a Jan/Benneh/Visor F3 with you as tonight's NK and me/Cuth the expected vig shot depending on who dies today.

Problem is I have reasons to townread all three of them.

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

sorry i went and did stuff this evening

before doing work my answer would be ignoring pr stuff for the moment visor/jan over you/cape/taffy in that order?

which is interesting

i'm surprised by your answer

what are your reasonings behind clearing jan and not clearing visor

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there's just a microtell of the way visor cleared cape for some post that i feel is wolfy on balance

he called some cape post the most villagery thing ever and it doesn't register that way for me

i think he's pretty villagery still though and the wolf is in the other part of my poe

or i miscleared someone (elite logic i know)

as for jan maybe i'm giving him too much credit actually

ill sort him out if in eed to i guss

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Are you talking about the "town backup busdriver" joke or something else?

Also would appreciate your thoughts on the above.

Or anyone's really, but especially people who have a strong opinion on Cuth.

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just overreaction to a vote that you had to realise likely meant nothing

but i might vote elsewhere, idk yet bronanas

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Taffy(2): Benneh, Cuth
Cuth(1): Visor

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EOD in 3 hours


PS: Taffy, yes I should have done that. All edited tallies just have Cape's vote on baudib added though (so u can figure out the old ones easily ;) :bow: )

vote cuth

thx

Vote: Cuth

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

this feels like a pzelda wolf threadstate tbhtbh

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

i mean or we're just off

or this is tense

but this doesn't really feel tense it just feels like people are having a hard time posting

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

i uh

really don't want to kill baudib if he's not here

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

baud can you talk about where your head's at in the game

i feel like you were around a decent amount earlier and then tailed off and have been posting here and there but there's no meat on the bones

why do you think gemma's a wolf? who are your top town reads? what do you think about the push on you?

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

baud's reentrance was a bit uncanny valley idk how to feel about it

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

why do you not seem to care about being wagoned right now

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baudib only gets heat because dya and i make him a potential wagon

cuth was happy to push forward on pzelda and lock us into it

idk fellas none of this shit means anything to me

just looks like going through motions, when they couldve voted baudib even just to see what wagons would result but they were firm on pzelda and i dont even recall why beyond the obvious of which other villagers expressed reluctance but cuth never wavered

if i am wrong, cest la vie

what up party people

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

what up party people

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we're pod racing

visor, that's it? big shrug

i didn't like baud's posts, but i thought they weren't particularly offensive, and i didn't really resonate strongly with anything either you or dya were pushing there, nor did i really trust you specifically (because that felt like an easy place to push and if pzelda/baud were v/v objectively a great play for wolves)

i would have been fine with him dying and i did consider voting, but pzelda had actively bad posts and also wasn't playing the game at all

and this is a 10er

and baud being v would have been much worse for the game than pzelda v, which i think has been born out by the fact that we're in a pretty decent spot right now? even if nobody has seemed to give a shit most of this phase (myself included)

i'm frankly kinda pissed about you saying you think i'm a wolf and then not posting for 24 hours

it's bad and irresponsible and wie gesagt i think we're in a fine place but not if you yeet me lol

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

there's just a microtell of the way visor cleared cape for some post that i feel is wolfy on balance

he called some cape post the most villagery thing ever and it doesn't register that way for me

i think he's pretty villagery still though and the wolf is in the other part of my poe

or i miscleared someone (elite logic i know)

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in what world do you think he busses baud like he did here and then expects to win in f3 after not being nked like three times (if sleep in mylo)

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

in what world do you think he busses baud like he did here and then expects to win in f3 after not being nked like three times (if sleep in mylo)

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in the world its not taffy or cape or you or jan i guess

also i maintain that the tenor in thread was weird late d1 and is indicative of a wolf team that for whatever reason was sitting on their hands? i guess i haven't really reread it in the context of baud w but it felt like everyone was sitting around in a circle waiting to see what would happen but without deeply caring about what would happen

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also i maintain that the tenor in thread was weird late d1 and is indicative of a wolf team that for whatever reason was sitting on their hands? i guess i haven't really reread it in the context of baud w but it felt like everyone was sitting around in a circle waiting to see what would happen but without deeply caring about what would happen

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i think mostly people aren't caring to try much itg

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

For me the Gemma kill is setting up for a Jan/Benneh/Visor F3 with you as tonight's NK and me/Cuth the expected vig shot depending on who dies today.

Problem is I have reasons to townread all three of them.

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taffy can you talk about why cape would be tonight's nk in your mind?

Cuth if I flip town who is the scummiest person here?

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i think mostly people aren't caring to try much itg

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ye but i feel like that is meaningful worldswise

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

in the world its not taffy or cape or you or jan i guess

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Why do you think you couldn't win a cross against Visor?

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Cuth if I flip town who is the scummiest person here?

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i don't feel comfortable answering this question without doing more work