help me find a reason not to commit suicide. and dont say family or friends because i have no friends and my family is the reason i want to commit suicide. i think ill do it tomorrow
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help me find a reason not to commit suicide. and dont say family or friends because i have no friends and my family is the reason i want to commit suicide. i think ill do it tomorrow
GOD NO!
Are you serious? :sweatdrop:
yes. i am dead serious. dont laugh at that please.
What would suicide gain you? That is the reason - there is nothing in it for anyone.
its an easy escape to a horrible life
I wouldn't do it, as CountArach said there's nothing to gain from it. If you think life is bad it's better than none at all.
Why do you want to commit suicide? Personally, I do not think it will be more pleasant than the life. I am not very religious but... this is a suicide after all. You know, you never know what follows after death... Just think on the process of rotting!
How old are you?
Why do you think you can not make any friends in the future?
What happened with your family? Divorce? Has somebody died?
Don't do it!
Never mind your family. If the idea is to make them feel guilty, and make them think "gee, I should have gave John-117 more attention" or something, then it won't work - they would have to be :daisy:'s to let you get like that in the first place, they won't feel much guilt. On the other hand, they may not be as bad as you think (you could give us a bit more to go on), so you wouldn't need to die for them in the first place.
I'm guessing your fairly young otherwise you wouldn't be suicidal over your family - in which case I think you should just wait till you are old enough to leave home. You kill yourself now and you will only have had a short crappy lifetime under them. If you hold on a little bit, you can live out your life the way you want - make friends do whatever, all without them bothering you.
And to tide you over until then, you have TW!
Yeah assuming your young you won't need to live with your parents, it depends what they've done but if you really detest them you can get past it later in life, concentrate on your studies, get a good job and you'll be ableto afford a place of your own and take your troubles out of your life for good, the transfer from school to a workplace is drastic, you will no longer get immature idiots or people that don't want to be your friend, life should get better as you get older.
Think of the person who likes/loves you the most. What would you committing suicide do to them?
im only 13. if the only thing after this life is rotting in the ground, im happy with that. its an easy escape to a miserable life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
ive never had more than 1 friend at a time. ive always been treated like shit in school. i am horrible at making friends (i skipped 1st grade)
m dad took everything off my computer.including europa barbarorum, the only thing that might've held me back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
the problem is i cannot leave home for 5 years, and then i would be going off to college and thus having to deal with more assholes.
the life i want is too prefect to be able to possibly happen.
dont do it.
there is so much to live for.
http://suicidehotlines.com/
I wonder if the forums will appear in the news... :thinking:
Why is it that the younger people are, the less they appreciate life?
There's always an option, there's always a chance.
If 5 years of misery will allow you easily 50 years of a good life, then I'd hold strong and endure.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
my grandma. she wil recover eventually. i need an escape from life desperatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kush
You might not believe me, but time dramatically, dramatically speeds up at your age. When I was 13 a year at school was like a lifetime, by a couple of years later a year just seemed the equivalent of a couple of months back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
Plus you can make as many friends as you like. There's so much change in the whole social climate in schools from your age upwards, people will not define you by how they look at you now. If you think you're uncool or whatever, just change a bit (not your character, just make a bit of effort) and you'll integrate fine.
I'll just state the obvious, that an online gaming fan forum is not the place to seek help for life-and-death issues.
A couple of people have been so good as to post links to real hotlines, which can offer meaningful help.
man, you clearly have your life ahead of you. If you don't give up, you might just get good luck, and leave your family. that should come in c.5 years, if you work hard enough. and have patience-5 years isn't as long as an eternity in the grave, and afterwards, if they try anything stupid, you can sue 'em (because by then, you'd be 18). you are throughing away potential here, a possible future.
besides, why not just go make friends? firends are one's support line. you can leave the house more regularly, and escape your family-and don't give me this 1 friend at a time crap-you or anyone else can do better than that. and I mean anybody!
and judging from your other posts (at EBII and the TWcenter), I recommend that you act more kindly to your neighbors-maybe that will help make friends?:yes:
and lastly: why are they at school are treating you like arseholes? you manners? intelligence? what?
If its manners, see above.
If its your smarts/other causes, just do what I do : say to yourself: "f*** them", and move on. you do not need people who pick on you for that. besides, if it is because of that, you will more likely end up ahead of the others in social place.
EDIT: I was going to look, but as a couple of good men here have done it, go to the links they provided.
ive struggled with suicide before. its hard. i know. just hang in there. believe. do you belong to a religion? if you do, go to your local priest/rabbi/imam or whatnot and talk.
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Originally Posted by John-117
OK. First, don't take for granted you will just rot in the earth... Or that it won't hurt. What is soul? Energy or something different? Are you sure you will not burn into hell for example?
But anyway... Then I have to tell you my story, then.
When I was 13 I was just in the same position. The world after 11 broke into pieces and I lost all of my friends. Why? I don't know. There are always people that are so miserable that have only one pleasure: to treat the others badly. But you see, one day you will get out of this nightmare (change the school and etc. and etc. ). SLowly but surely my life improved... then I had another fit (less dramatic) few years ago but I again recovered. Things are getiing better. But you shall fight for it! Now I have a handful of friends but I do have friends. I believe you will also succeed.
If still not persuaded, please try this:
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Originally Posted by Lemur
It would help if you would tell what is making your life so miserable. As for now, I cannot really say anything meaningful. Also, I would like to know your age. If you are under 20, then life is just beginning for you. Shame to waste it now. Very defeatist to waste it now. Plenty of children/youths have horrible lives. Millions lead lives far, far worse than yours. I know I am not being very kind right now, but as you can see, the lack of knowledge of the details of your life makes helping difficult.
I guarantee that when you get older, to about 30 or 40 years old, you will look back and be thankful that you have not given up on living today. If not, you can always commit suicide later :beam:. No joking here. The beginning of one's life should not be a time to contemplate suicide. If your life does not improve by the time you are forty, at least you have given it a try. But you seem to be too young to die yet.
Dude, it just isn't worth it. When I was your age I thought life was crap too. I had no friends, and my family was driving me insane. I never attempted it, but I did stand in front of the balcony in school thrice thinking about jumping. But in the end, it's a good thing I didn't alright?
You may think you're going to deal with more garbage types in college or highschool or whatnot, but there's no way to know it--there's only one way to find out, and that's to go through with it. You're only 13--there's a whole life ahead of you. How sad it is that being so young, nevertheless you think you've seen everything there is of life. There's far more to it yet. Bide your time if you have to--I outlasted my family and now, at 22, everything is going well for me, and I have the respect of friends and family alike where I had almost nothing. Bide your time now, and see if college is REALLY what you think of it before doing anything foolish--for suicide IS foolish. When alive things can always change for the better. Escaping from life--what are you escaping to?
You don't need these 'friends' as much as you think you do--seriously. People have to deserve you, not you deserve people. Not having friends shouldn't be a reason to end your life. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having one friend at a time--I personally hate having too many 'friends' at a time, and prefer investing in one good friendship rather than countless temporary ones.
Nor is having EB removed from your computer a reason--my parents deleted every single strategy game in my old computer and password-protected it. I just played it in my mind, and created countless battles of my own--and I began reading about history, which has served me so much over the years that I'm now studying it in university.
You want a reason not to die? It's this: You are dying because of, and for, what others have done. But you miss the point.YOU LIVE FOR YOURSELF. Not for others. Let them think what they want, let them do what they want. You are who you are and they can't take that away from you. They can take away EB--but they can't take away your mind. They can take away your freedoms--but then again, you're only 13. Stay home a little longer--much of Life (the interesting and less crappy version) only begins later in life. You're not missing anything important yet--seriously.
Don't do anything foolish. If you really want to kill yourself, then at least give yourself and your soul the fighting chance of a few more years before you do it. See if college really is full of those assholes before you do it. You're planning to kill yourself over an assumption. But killing yourself at 13 is...just seriously not worth it. Don't look around you anymore since you know the view's depressing--look forward instead, and continue walking down the road.
I guess that was too brusque?
Link to American suicide hotlines.
An amusing article that will put things in perspective.
Kid, being 13 sucks. Its ridiculous (I'm sorry to put it so bluntly) that you wanna stop living your life so soon when you practically haven't even started it. You have NO idea what is coming for you in 5 years, when you (Hopefully) graduate. I have to confess that at all my bad times in my life, I always thought positive. (Bleh, life will eventually improve.) Some people think its sorta wierd that when I'm down, I laugh a lot at insignificant things, because I love living through the bad times since when I go through them, I remember that I had said things were gonna improve and they did. Just as I'm 100% sure that your life WILL improve. You quite possibly won't be everything you want to be, have all the friends and girls you want, but these will eventually come (Heck, I'm 19, and I know ALOT of guys who still haven't got a single girlfriend yet, by my age)
Here's my casual solution for a 13th year old kid (I know school sucks, everyone laughs mocks you, etc.)
First thing: Are you good with school? If you are then try to focus as much as you can (I wasn't the coolest guy in the block, and I was (mildly) ridiculed. Nothing I couldn't cope with. Focussing on school (And games. :P) was one of my ways to pay back at them.) Focus on school, it will be your future, many of the guys and girls who laugh at you won't be one tenth of what you'll be in the future if you focus on it.
Second thing: Are you good (As in enjoying. Being good is just a bonus.) with any sports? You SERIOUSLY NEED to get into collective Sports (Soccer/Football, Volleyball, Handball, Basketball, anything). They are the salvation for most guys in your condition. You'll have to forget the fear of being ridiculed and try your hardest at improving in that Sport. And try to socialize, even if others shrug you off (Depends on the collective mood towards newcomers), whether or not you're well recieved in the beginning, most of the times you end up being friends with your teammates (Or some of them) At your age, youth's teams always field everyone regardless of skill. So even if you suck (You need to focus also on that Sports), you'll still be able to play and feel like you're contributing to something (YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR TEAM and YOU WILL MAKE FRIENDS, You will hear your coach trying to push you harder, you'll be complemented when you make a good pass, etc. You will take part in the collective celebration of victory when you win games. Provided you stay long enough, you will make friends in there. You can't quit. Show yourself you are a winner.)
Provided you try these things, you will eventually improve your own life. The most important matter is to stay focused and try not to be disturbed by stupid commentaries and as I usually say, life will improve.
once again, i have no friends. its sad, but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
i get into big fights with my parents every 2 or 3 months.
my parents smashed my xbox into a million pieces. my computer is wiped of everything. i have nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
try Jolt's suggestion and join a team. even the chess team, if you have one. go out for a run. make it habitual. work out, excercise, read books.
dont concentrate on what you dont have. concentrate on what you HAVE.
Kid, you don't need your computer nor your XBox. You don't see everyone in Africa depressed because they don't have XBox, do you? As I said, do your best to focus on school and GET yourself into a collective sports. These two things together give you much to handle.
i take school online, and i do baseball. its boring and no one on the team likes me either.Quote:
Originally Posted by hooahguy
yah and people in africa have never brought thier 8th grade science grade from a 21 up to a 91 in 3 weeks to earn a xbox or computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
As I said, when I was at your age, I did not have any. Maybe in the friends aspect you are even better: you said "1 friend at a time" . This is something after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
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You have your grandmother.
try a sport that people need to rely on you to succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
Sorry to say it this way dude, but your case is really nothing special. If you read the posts on this thread, you'll realise that we've ALL been through exactly the same thing. We've had our own shitty 13 years of age, our down in the dirt teenage years. It's always crappy, the teenage years--and yet we are here now, years later, and some even while they are still grappling with their own problems in their teenage lives, telling you not to do anything stupid, and walk on.
We've made it through our teenage years with the same friendlessness and the same parental fights. Which teenage kid doesn't fight with his parents, I ask you? My parents, as I said, did the exact same with my computer, and confiscated my handphone for three months. Nevertheless I decided in the end to continue living on because death is a mug's game--there's so much to live for still. Getting into arguments with parents is a terrible reason for which to kill yourself--if it was a halfway good one we'd already see thousands of teens jumping like lemmings from the Golden Gate Bridge or mass-electrocuting themselves at the nearest electrified fence. Yet we don't. Says something, doesn't it?
We know how you feel here--you may say 'it's different, it's different, you don't understand.' But truth is, your story is the age-old story that teens around the world in all kinds of backgrounds and all kinds of eras have gone through. It may not have involved Xboxes in 450BC, of course, but substitute something that means a lot to you and you've got the picture. And you will come out of it and go on to a life less (or more, depending on how you look at it) ordinary like the vast majority of the human race has.
You'll be fine, dude. I'll be your friend if you want me to. But remember this: NO ONE is ever truly alone in this world. NO ONE. And the people who are posting now on this thread do care for you in some small way--though they've never met you before, they care enough about you that they want you to treasure your life. I care enough that I want you to go on with it. And I'll even accompany you along if you want it. But don't insult your own body and soul and will by deciding to kill them off before they've truly had a chance to prove themselves in later life.
Bad logic. They have not tried XBox. Once you have tried something, and grown accustomed to it, withdrawal is rather difficult. But as for myself, I am not mcuh of a game fan. All I play are RTS games, and for the last two years I have mainly played EB, still on my first and only campaign, which says quite a bit about how much time I spend playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
I am fearful of losing my savegame for that campaign though, but to counter this, I have backups of it on three computers, two flash drives, and four discs. As for the games, I think all of you gentlemen know where to get some if you do not like/cannot pay for them...
My sympathies are with you however. You do not have very wise/caring parents as I can see. Losing such things is difficult I can imagine. But no reason to commit suicide. Then again, I understand there are quite a bit of other factors as well.
but its not the typical teen years. i am isolated by my online high school. and i have no real escape from my parents.
someone just PM'ed me asking that.
wither giant knife to the head, through heart, or taking off the parking break on a car and letting it run over my head.
As I said, it's typical.
Here's some rather counter-intuitive advice I can give, which I used to deal with my own situation: Learn to live without it. My parents were trying to keep a hold on me by threatening to take away everything that meant something to me, to break down my individuality and make me submit to their will. I defeated their efforts and eventually forced them to see that they had to deal with me not from a master-servant relationship but as an equal partner in the enterprise called Family. How? If they took away my handphone, I didn't just let it happen--I shaped my life around the lack of handphone. I switched to reading, and spent more time in school. If they tried to find trouble for my staying longer in school, I fought back.
Fights? Fight the good fights if you believe enough in them. Don't go quietly into the night. If you let things happen to you then of course your life is going to be crap. Isolated? So was I. Heck, so were WE. No one wanted to talk to me. In the lecture theatres in my later teens I was often the ONLY PERSON in my row--people would move away rather than sit next to me. So? I'm not there for them. No friends? Then you'll realise one thing that few people have the privilege to learn--you don't really need them. Not yet. Your life will go one far better, maybe even better, without them.
Being 13 is a terrible time, as Jolt's said--but I say again, you may say 'it's different, it's different'... but however you try to escape from the truth of it, the truth is: it IS the typical teen years, however much you may try to deny it. It's not the end of the world--it's not something only you have gone through. I wish I could be there physically dude, I feel for you and I definitely wish your parents were more understanding--but should and would build no bridges. We all must go through life with what we have, because you don't escape from life to go to a better place. If you're not religious, then you know life is all you've got. There's nothing to escape to. And if you ARE, then you'd also know that suicide would send you to a place far worse than anything you've got right now.
So keep living.
Put that giant knife you've got in mind away. Far, far away.
I go to Online High School also and I love it.....
This ain't going to be good for us :stwmean:
Don't do it kid. I got A LOT of health problems, from wrists to teeth to stomach/side problems, ears,kness, etc....
I'm still going.
I don't think he is joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus
Second, I want to tell John one thing. Look, you love TW games, right? Then listen... what general you prefer... a one who fights to the end or the one that flees when faces a difficulty? Do you think the great people had easy lifes?
Hear, hear, Stephen Asen. Truer words were never spoken. You played EB yes? Be a Spartan--not a Lugoae. Who cares if you're surrounded and there's only 10 men left? You don't rout. You soldier on.
And you're not surrounded yet. The battle's only just started. You haven't only got 10 men left. You've just been attacked by one unit. Rout that unit and move on.
@Aemilius: You're missing the point. Attention-seeking IS the point. He feels alone right now. He goes to online high school--he doesn't even have a physical presence of friends and acquaintances to hang on to. He needs us now to give him the attention, because he's worth the effort that others in his school don't seem to feel bothered to put in. I fail to see how you're helping him by dismissing him as a suspected troll. Not everyone can express themselves clearly in lucid terms, or would be in the mood to write long essays like we are (and I am) when you're in a state of depression. But judging him to be a troll simply on the basis that he doesn't say too much is irresponsible and insensitive in the extreme.
I don't think he's joking. What if what you said pushes him over the brink? Will you take responsibility? You just asked him to think about how he's going to kill himself. Are you planning to refine his plan for him, or ridicule him for it, or dare him to do it, just to prove he's not a troll? Will you bear the consequences later on?
How can you be saying the things you say? Fine, so you think he's joking. Then hold your peace. What if, on the off-chance, he ISN'T joking? What then? Troll or not, we have a duty and responsibility as fellow forumers to help. He's a fellow human being and Org member in need of help--that's good enough for me.
What's the point of saying 'better safe than sorry' now, I wonder? You've already done enough damage in all your previous posts. The kid's 13, man, he needs help and understanding, not interrogation and accusation! As if he doesn't already have enough of it in his life.
amelius. you will be mentioned when i call the newspaper. ill make sure to mention "look on my computer at my bookmarks and click on user CP. yah. and the note on my desk, that guy encouraged me to do it. goodbye forever
Suicide is a cowardice. It is not something to be proud of. People will read the newspaper and will throw it after they read it... then they will forget. You will only hurt those who love you (your grandmother who can even die of grief. or the single friend you have will suffer). The others won't care! You must live and fight!
i have no friends. my last one hates me because of a money dispute and moved away before we could resolve it. in a way, he caused most of this. ill tell you the story if you like
If your from the Uk visit this site. http://www.samaritans.org/
If not I'm sure there is plenty of websites and hotlines out there to help you cope.
I'm not going to go in depth but I'm just going to tell you one thing, you have to much to live for to throw it away. A lot of people, especially teenagers have suicidal thoughts, I'm speaking from experience but seriously you have so much to live for. If you commit suicide your throwing away a life of possibility. You can do anything you want if you put your mind to it, now tell me why you would want to throw that away?
Your probably in a dark place right now but seriously, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
and im aiming to get to that light, goig into it as soon as possible.
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Originally Posted by John-117
Speak please.
I can't remain here on the forums much longer--but please let it out. There are listeners here, and we want to help.
Honestly, you won't be able to kill yourself with a "giant knife". Suicide is pretty difficult, and you'd likely botch it, end up in the hospital with a punctured eye or severe lacerations.
Your parents sound like ****monglers, by the way. I don't understand why they would uninstall your games and destroy your Xbox (which they PAID for); why did they do it?
You need to ask yourself: WHY am I so unhappy? I do not mean your parents or friends or online school or any of that. Why does this make life so unbearable? The truth is, it is all up to you. Life is like poker- everyone gets dealt a slightly different hand. I would advise you to stop worrying about what you were dealt, and instead focus on what you can do with that. I'm not going to patronize you by saying that what you've gone through is nothing special at all; that is, however, unimportant. Many great people have emerged from terrible circumstances, whom the world would be vastly inferior without. Similarly, many people have been born with a silver spoon in their mouth and squandered it. If you end it now, you squander it and are no better than them. Dig down, find some pride, and stand up for yourself!
desert has a point. Suicide, if botched, will make your life far worse than it already is. Better to just deal with what you ALREADY have, and improve it from there.
Think about it: if you think it's hit rock bottom, then there's only one way to go from there--back upwards. Chill dude.
I hope you will take the right decision and will live, mate. Tomorrow evening (Bulgarian time), I will be back and I hope to learn all the story from the living John.
Don't make a life or death decision based on people posting on the internet.
Go here: http://www.befrienders.org/
or here: http://suicidehotlines.com/
Just get in contact with them. Or your parents. Talk to someone. Take some time to review your life, and not just the bad things.
We all have experience terribly trying times in our lives.
If you stick it out, it will get better. I know, I've been depressed. I know some people who tried to commit suicide and are only alive today because someone saved them. But he's alive - and enjoying life.
Life seems terrible but I know the whole of it can't be. There must be something in your life that is good, even if it is small. Concentrate on that.
But think of all the wonderful things in life you have yet to experience. Let me tell you, there is so much wonder and beauty - don't take all of that from yourself.
CR
it seems people here want to hear my story of the evil friend. here it is:
my friend and i had a lawn mowing business, and almost everyone payed in $20's. this was problematic when i mowed a lwan by myself, and he mowed a few feet at most. when his mom became angry that he ddnt get any of the money from that lawn, my dad payed it off. then we got in an argument, and i lost my xbox for 9 months. now i only get to play it every friday for 2 hours. now because he got it taken away, i got into a fight with my parents over more time which boiled into schoolwork and then i told you what happened from there.
Well, keep this in mind: Spartans never die.
WWMCD (What Would Master Chief Do?)?
lol i gotta tell that one at forgehub.
would anyone like to hear the story of my lost love or the girl i liked who dumped me on the day of the dance?
Look, a friend of mine had many problems with his parents. They argued all the time. Not just raised voices but screaming and slamming of doors and exclamations of hate. His life was miserable and he made their life miserable. This happened for years, and its hard to imagine the hate involved over that time. He got dumped by his girlfriend on the day they went to the dance. He got into drugs and dropped out of school. Got kicked out of his house. Thought about killing himself, and, sadly, others.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
But he didn't. He didn't give up. He reconciled with his parents and moved back in and went to community college. And then he got into a four year university.
Your situation isn't that bad. I can see why you're angry, but that's no reason to commit suicide. Trust me, there are so many marvelous moments in your future.
It seems some problems come from disagreements with your parents. I found that, when I was really angry with my parents, it helped to tell them what I thought as calmly as I could. In your case, explaining why you didn't give that friend of yours any money. Compromise - offer to pay five bucks even though you don't think he deserves it. But always try to explain yourself.
And remember they love you, even if it doesn't seem like it. Tell them how their actions make you feel depressed. But talk to them.
I was homeschooled for a bit - see if your parents will let you take at least some classes at the local school, and if there's a homeschooling organization around you that organizes field trips for homeschooled students. Just google 'homeschooling association [your state]"
CR
Tell us.
Girls are overrated though, seriously. Think back to when you were 9, 10, 11...when girls were either a neutral object that you had no opinion of or were an annoyance. Good times, good times...
Right now your pissed and depressed which is not the right state of the mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
I thought about suiciding once I was 6 because I thought life sucked and its boring. I climbed on the tip of the verrenda and I looked down and it was high and scary. So I gave it three more days and decided not to after all.
I thought about suiciding at 13 when I read Battle Royale and got depressed for some reason.
But I'm really thankful I didn't suicide back then. Because I'm loving my life right now.
Depression clouds your judgement. It makes it feel like your alone and everything is against you.
Your dead wrong. I certainly don't want you gone. While this is first, possibly second time if I did greet you in the entrance hall of speaking to you, you sound like a decent fellow. I may see you around in all around the forum, and maybe possibly in real life.
I'm only 4 years older then you but I know this much. Even if theres a person I hate alot. They change. So even I'm looking at you like just another Orgah right now, future you may be my best friend.
Okay you can choose to ignore my post so far. But please don't ignore the following.
Right now, your pretty much at the bottom in terms of depression. Just give a month or so until you are absolutely certain that you are on the top or at least on the surface. If you still feel like suiciding then your life really does suck and you deserve to get a better life.
So heres a deal. Just try to live one day more, one week more or one months more. If you can't bear it, we are all here for you to support. And I'll be crying if you do end up dead.
No, she won't. My biological father committed suicide 22 years ago, and pretty much every day, I think of him, and I feel guilt and pain every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
I can't begin to understand where you're at right now, John, but I do remember being 13 and feeling like I had little to live for. Trust me when I say that nothing you're facing now is permanent and it will pass. Death does not. It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Whatever your problems are, no matter how alone you feel, suicide is not an answer. Please seek help through one of the groups listed above.
Look, you actually want to live. If you didn't then you hadn't opened this topic here to ask for reasons not to do it.
As has been said, there will be better times, my dad could make me very depressed back when i was about your age, I also had some problems with my mom, but nowadays our relation is absolutely splendid I I am almost ashamed of the things I thought were problems back then. All you have to do is go on, grow up, become a man and don't let these issues bring you down. You could also try to find another hobby, like reading books instead of playing xbox all the time, listening to music you like might also make you happier, sometimes the tricks are really simple, yet very effective and little things can make you happier than what you think is big and important sometimes.
The fact that you're here to talk about it means the odds are you've already decided not to make a serious attempt. That's good. The fact that you made your gesture to a bunch of essentially random people on the 'net is less good. There's no substitute for looking someone in the eye when you speak to them, so find someone you can be in the same room with, or at the very least someone you can speak to on the phone, and go through this with them. If you continue seeking attention online you're going to run into negative reinforcement sooner rather than later. If this is the only place you feel comfortable then it's better than nothing, but don't count on long term help here.
A guy I went to school with killed himself at sixteen. Not a close friend, but that afternoon, before he did it, he told me and a couple of other people a pretty good joke. That's the kind of person he was, funny and gregarious. When he decided to do it he just did it. Yeah we all knew he had issues, everybody has issues, the point I'm trying to make is that by discussing it you make it less likely to happen, so keep talking.
Good luck.
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Oh and I never had a girl friend. I came close a few times but my stupidity and chickenness killed every oppotunity of it. I possibly hurted a few of those girls and I really regret that:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
I do regret it but I tell my self not to make the same silly mistakes and think what I can do to get people to like me.
John-117, I am on the phone with Natalie from the National Suicide Prevention Hotline. She would very much like to speak with you and hear what's on your mind. Their number:
1-800-784-2433
She would like to see if she can help you in any way. Just ring them up and ask for Natalie; I've given her the most brief outline based on what you have posted here.
Eh, I don't know if that was such a good idea. If I were John, that post would scare me off.
It makes you feel like you're obliged to speak to them, and then you get nervous and chicken out.
I'm not trying to freak anybody out, I just want to move this discussion to a place where people know what they're doing. We all mean well, and I'm honored to see so many Orgahs trying to respond productively, but at the end of the day we're amateurs. I'd like for John-117 to speak to someone who actually knows what she's talking about.
Wait, why was the title and the first post of the thread edited by Lemur??
I changed the title to "I have big problems; please help me." to cut down on the rubbernecking. I was advised to do this by a Mod with way more experience than I have, so I'm assuming this is a productive step.
I also sincerely hope John-117 is okay.
Don't do it!
I agree. You guys mean well, but it aint gunna help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
I'm not claiming to be an expert but I've stopped two people from doing it in the last 6 months. Not me alone, but it helps.
I'm gunna PM him. Take this afternoon off work and see if I can talk to him.
Okay your life sounds about 100 times better then mine at that age.Quote:
Originally Posted by John-117
I was the uber skinny geek with pimples and no fashion sense. (not really past tense except I'm now fat).
My first girlfriend was when I was 17 after I had finished school.
Friends. Moved schools every two to four years to small country schools were it takes like 3 years to make good friends.
XBox. My first PC was green monochrome that I had to compile the craps (2 dice) program for myself. I didn't get that until I was almost 15.
Friends... eventually as long as you count a paper & pencil Dungeons and Dragons group.
I had pimples from about age 13. The good thing was by the last two years of high school I had none and was eating so much chocolate that I was nicknamed the moro bar kid.
As bad as it got and it got worse. Dumped by my GF of five years will waiting for a cancer biopsy to be examined. Gave away over 500 Fantasy books when I moved overseas. etc.
Things in the end went from horrible in some facets to excellent :2thumbsup:
Read books, learn about your heroes and be them as much as possible, exercise (this one is awesome, you learn about yourself, can change your body shape, challenge yourself and take control of one aspect of your life...its like getting an upgrade to your most important vehicle), and most importantly humour, dark, light, wry, insightful or inciting... take life with a grain of salt and a laugh.
BTW what do you think is a perfect life? You said it is too much to ask for.
Dude you're only 13. Things will get better. It may not seem like it now but they will. You woke up this morning had two working arms, two working legs, two working eyes. two working ears. You had a roof over your head and food on the table.
Blessings are all around you. You just need to look for them.
as i said before, find a minister. they will help. that and the suicide hotline.
You are only thirteen and considering suicide? Careful please... I thought about it several times when I was fifteen. At that time, I was considering suicide. Sometimes, I opened up the drawer in my kitchen to look at the knives and seeing which one was the strongest. I didn't have any guns sitting around the house. Going to school each day was misery. I had no friends, and those who claimed to be friends never really spoke to me, avoided me, or ignored me. Others made life miserable, harassing me and degrading me each and every time I set foot into the building. They didn't value my life at all. Why should I have? Things at home began falling apart as well. I was constantly in argument with my parents, and my grades began to plummet. Even the teachers began to take notice as the bright-eyed student they had at the beginning of the school year had become a shade of his former self.
But later on, and in my darkest times, just the right people came at just the right time. I know that you may be thinking that it won't happen for you, that no one will seek you out, and that you will be alone for the rest of your days until you end them yourself. But if this truly is your worst year, how can you be sure that it won't be any better? How can you be sure that it will become worse? That there is no hope? You can't. No one can.
If you end your time here and now, what will happen? "What if" will become your greatest regret whether or not an afterlife exists or not. What if by taking yourself out of the future, you manage to take away the greatest thing that will happen to someone, or many people for that matter, down the road?
Things seem to have a tendency to work themselves out in life, whether you believe in it or not. But if you end your life here and now, I can guarantee that you will see no change happen with yourself. You will never live long enough to be able to look back at your life and judge yourself. Thirteen years is not enough, nor fifteen in my case as it was. But the two years following my decision to put the knife away paved way to a better tomorrow. The blue sky is hidden behind the clouds. One may not always see it, but one knows that it is there. Your time will come when someday, you too will be able to see that skylight, to see the better life that awaits you in time.
The light awaits. Will you be around to see it?
It might not seem like a whole lot but it's more than some people can claim. Sometimes it's easy to lose sight of the little things in the scope of being so down and depressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
John, whatever you're going through now? It will pass. I know that may seem easy for me to say but it's the truth, this too shall pass. It takes a lot of courage and heart to survive some of life's :daisy:, but doing so makes you a stronger person. You just have to remember the things you have, and not dwell on the things you don't.
Take care, and I do hope you stick around. :bow:
So irreversable, what if it only gets better from now on, you are now feeling truly unhappy, that is just as rare as the moments that you are truly happy. Just don't.
John-117, I can only echo what others have said here. Life will get better when the years continue. This crisis you're going to is only temporarily.
And if you can't stand being at home constantly, then maybe consider some of the options others have posted: join a sportsclub. If you don't like to play in team, then there are several individual sports you could pick. There's a whole world out there and it'll take not that long before you'll get the change to discover it.
And you do have friends. Look at this thread. You have alot of friends right here. Whenever you feel like talking or you just need to vent, we are all here for you to listen and give advice.
Maybe you could tell us where you live - roughly - so that if there is a member in your area he/she could give you a direction towards help. If you feel like harming yourself - there's people who can help you out of it. If your parents are mistreating you - there's people who can help you with this. School problems? There's people who can help you with it. And guess what? They want to. It's their job and they're good at it.
Apart from that, many of the people around here - including me - had a hard time as teens. Scorn, not being listened to, not being understood etc. Just you hang on! I got through, my buddy got through and so will you. I've seen people not making it. They thought they were hated, and that they had no friends and no perspective. Can you imagine the amount of sorrow and of despair and the destructive power (literally!) of a suicide on other peoples lives? You think you can? I'm afraid you're wrong. It's worse, far worse! So if you cannot be convinced to spare yourself for yourself, then do it for your fellow men.
Go outside. Spring is coming. Well, assuming you're living on the northern hemisphere, that is. :beam:
im in jacksonville, north carolina if youre close your probably military.
but the past few years have been "its only gonna get better" but it never has. if anything my life sucks more than ever for the past 2-3 years and it never got better no matter how long it was.