If it wasn't so mean-spirited, it would be funny...

Every time I think I have seen the height of conservative, moral majority, homophobic hysteria, something new pops up that absolutely leaves me shocked at its stupidity. The gist of it: a lesbian girl wanted to bring a female date to her high school prom in Mississippi. The school told her she couldn't. The ACLU pointed out to the school that yes, in fact, she could. The school then took the only possible action available to right-thinking people: they cancelled prom for everyone.

Awesome.

Note: Sorry if there has already been a topic on this. I haven't been around much lately and have lost touch.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/rich...issippi-cancel

It's Mississippi. What did you expect?

I doubt she didn't she this coming, guess she feels her sexual identity is the most important thing in the world.

And -1 for that school.

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I doubt she didn't she this coming, guess she feels her sexual identity is the most important thing in the world.

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What's more important to a person than the people you love?

But the other kids at the prom need to be protected, can't risk them being infected with teh gayness!!!11

EDIT: A tiny fun fact about her home town of Fulton:

The sex-ratio in the rest of the US is 1:1, with slightly more males born and slightly more females reaching old age(same as everywhere else). Fulton, however, only has 83.5 males for every 100 females... They can't discriminate lesbians, having a part lesbian population is the only way for the people there to add up!

The choice is between sad, single heterosexuals or happy lesbians.

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What's more important to a person than the people you love?

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Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.

Mississippi for you. It will soon seceed and become part of Afghanistan anyway.

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Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.

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So.... When faced with injustice, the Fragony way of doing things is to bend over and take teh pain?

No, people need to stand up to injustice. Don't blame the consequences on the victim.

And in case you didn't read the article properly; the straight kids are going to have a private prom with a big sign that says "Gays not allowed", which makes the discrimination legal. So yes, screw the others, only the gay students are hurt by this.

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So.... When faced with injustice, the Fragony way of doing things is to bend over and take teh pain?

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The Fragony way is not imposing. When I am not welcome I stay away, why would you want to be there in the first place. But that is like a red cloth on a bull on blitzbitches, they always want what they can't get, and they will wreck whatever is in their way. That is is a much loved old tradition means nothing to them.

And in case you didn't read the article properly; the straight kids are going to have a private prom with a big sign that says "Gays not allowed", which makes the discrimination legal. So yes, screw the others, only the gay students are hurt by this.

Just like every straight sportsman is discriminated at the gay olympics. But I guess that's different, being different and all that but equal when it suits them. They should stop their whining.

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What exactly was she trying to "impose"?

I did not get the impression that she tried to force anybody else to show up with same-sex dates or that she tried to force any other girls to wear a tuxedo.

Or was she "imposing" the unsightly view of a gay couple?

If she would've been a straight girl and would have taken her best friend(who is girl) to the prom then what would've happened? Nothing...

This prom thing is some American thingy that I just don't understand..

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What exactly was she trying to "impose"?

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You know what she tried to impose, we can disagree on wether or not it's a good thing to be so provocative and self-centred. That attitude annoys the crap out of me personally.

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No - as a matter of fact I don't. Why don't you spell it out?

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No - as a matter of fact I don't. Why don't you spell it out?

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HER SEXUAL ORIENTATION naturally. Some people like their traditions, they shouldn't complain can't have everything.

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HER SEXUAL ORIENTATION naturally.

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How can she "impose" her sexual orientation by simply showing up with her girlfriend? If she planned show up there waving a protest banner and shouting gay rights slogans I would agree with you, but if simply showing up with your girlfriend already qualifies as "imposing" I think you lost me.

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If she planned show up there waving a protest banner and shouting gay rights slogans I would agree with you, but if simply showing up with your girlfriend already qualifies as "imposing" I think you lost me.

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For these people that is exactly what she did. And she did it willingly, to provocate.

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For these people that is exactly what she did. And she did it willingly, to provocate.

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What do you mean for "these people". If for "these people" simply showing up is already equivalent to waving a banner and shouting slogans, then perhaps "these people" are the problem and not this girl.

Perhaps "these people" should consider learning some tolerance as part of decent behaviour just as other "people" learned in the past. As long as the girl and her friend do not do anything that would be different from what other couples are doing at the prom I still do not quite see the problem.

There was a case in Scotland recently where a school camping and mountaineering trip was cancelled because a disabled girls mother complained that she couldn't go because the terrain was too difficult for her to manage, due to her disability. I'm sure that made the poor lass popular with her classmates.

Not in the same league as two hot chicks french kissing. Who in their right mind would ban that. Some people would pay good money to see summat like that. :embarassed:

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What do you mean for "these people". If for "these people" simply showing up is already equivalent to waving a banner and shouting slogans, then perhaps "these people" are the problem and not this girl.

Perhaps "these people" should consider learning some tolerance as part of decent behaviour just as other "people" learned in the past. As long as the girl and her friend do not do anything that would be different from what other couples are doing at the prom I still do not quite see the problem.

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As I said the people leading the school are idiots, but she is the one being disrespectful of a valued tradition. It doesn't matter how we look at these things.

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she is the one being disrespectful of a valued tradition.

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Again, how is she "disrepspectful"? By simply showing up with her date? I thought the tradition is that you have a romantic evening with your date. Perhaps "these people" are disrespecting the tradition by not allowing her to show up with the date of her choice.
I still do not see how the presence of a gay couple is going to ruin the prom. Why would anybody care? "These people" should spend more time on having a good time with their dates than going "OMG teh gays are ruining the prom".

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Again, how is she "disrepspectful"? By simply showing up with her date? I thought the tradition is that you have a romantic evening with your date. Perhaps "these people" are disrespecting the tradition by not allowing her to show up with the date of her choice.
I still do not see how the presence of a gay couple is going to ruin the prom. Why would anybody care? "These people" should spend more time on having a good time with their dates than going "OMG teh gays are ruining the prom".

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You are of course right, but you don't see it from my perspective. You agreed with me had she been waving gay rights signs, how exactly is this any different iff prom is traditionally a boy+girl thing? Who is wrong, the one too fixated on old traditions, or the one not respecting these old traditions, that I will leave to you that's a matter of opinion.

What cowards.

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.

But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this. :shame:

I'm guessing we haven't heard the full story, couldn't she have just turned up at the event with her girlfriend wearing a tuxedo? Do you have to show a photo of what you are going to wear and who you are going to bring? Seems to me she is not some poor little girl who can't bring the love of her life to her school prom, she probably knew exactly what would happed when she "asked" permission.

Don't get me wrong, the school are still pathetic in my book.

But if they allow gay couples to mix with straight people, then they might be influenced and turn gay.

Like when they allowed blacks to have proms on the same night, and the white kids...

Nah, even I'll admit that this is petty. But at the same time there's no need for the leftist moral outrage, she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.

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Nah, even I'll admit that this is petty. But at the same time there's no need for the leftist moral outrage, she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.

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^--- that

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash.


This as well.

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the world doesn't have to change just for her.

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And again - what exactly would change for the others? How would the prom be in []any[/i] kind different/worse for all the other people if this gay couple showed if with one girl wearing a tuxedo?

Could somebody please point out the key traditional elements of a prom to me? Is "no gay couples" one of these key elements? I thought the key elements were dressing up, dancing closely, planning a nice evening for your date, electing a prom queen, etc. - not sure how any of these things might be negatively affected by this lesbian couple. At least as long as nobody on either side makes a big ruckus of the gay couple coming to the prom. This should not even be a matter of discussion for either side - they should simply go there, like every other couple, behave like every other couple and end of story.

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electing a prom queen

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Well, I suppose allowing gay couples might change that...

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Well, I suppose allowing gay couples might change that...

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How?

Umm, twas a joke. Electing a prom "queen" with guy men might get interesting.

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Umm, twas a joke.

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And again - what exactly would change for the others? How would the prom be in []any[/i] kind different/worse for all the other people if this gay couple showed if with one girl wearing a tuxedo?

Could somebody please point out the key traditional elements of a prom to me? Is "no gay couples" one of these key elements? I thought the key elements were dressing up, dancing closely, planning a nice evening for your date, electing a prom queen, etc. - not sure how any of these things might be negatively affected by this lesbian couple. At least as long as nobody on either side makes a big ruckus of the gay couple coming to the prom. This should not even be a matter of discussion for either side - they should simply go there, like every other couple, behave like every other couple and end of story.

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It's just how they see it, nobody is disagreeing with that this is stupid.

it is the school fault, not the students.

If the girl wanted to come with her female friend, that would be allowed, but since she is a lesbian, we can't bring her female friend.

What imbeciles, no one can condone the school for what they did and anyone who does should be shipped back to 69 B.C and learn a thing or two from the Romans.


This is one from California - http://www.people.com/people/article...281762,00.html Now that is an interesting one.

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The world also doesnt need to stay the same for you

Mean-spirited indeed. I wholy agree with Ser. Who is getting hurt here if they allow her to go? No one, maybe a few parents get uneasy, but this isn't their event so who cares about them. For me the Dalai Lama says it best:

"If someone comes to me and asks whether homosexuality is okay or not, I will ask, 'What is your companion's opinion?' If you both agree, then I think I would say, 'if two males or two females voluntarily agree to have mutual satisfaction without further implication of harming others, then it is okay.'"

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What cowards.

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.

But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this. :shame:

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Fricke v. Lynch. They probably got legal advice to simply cancel the event, rather than either approve or deny McMillan's request. So then the issue becomes, instead of McMillan's Freedom of Speech rights, the "rights" of students to even have a school-sanctioned and -sponsored Prom. Some smart lawyer might (probably will) take up the case, pointing to other school events and extracurricular activities (football teams, debate clubs, etc) getting permission to use school-, that is: taxpayer-owned, facilities. Net result 2 years down the road?

No extracurricular activities at all. Or
membership in activities open to all.

Public education. What a riot.

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Fricke v. Lynch. They probably got legal advice to simply cancel the event, rather than either approve or deny McMillan's request. So then the issue becomes, instead of McMillan's Freedom of Speech rights, the "rights" of students to even have a school-sanctioned and -sponsored Prom. Some smart lawyer might (probably will) take up the case, pointing to other school events and extracurricular activities (football teams, debate clubs, etc) getting permission to use school-, that is: taxpayer-owned, facilities. Net result 2 years down the road?

No extracurricular activities at all. Or
membership in activities open to all.

Public education. What a riot.

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This is weird. Why should the school pay for prom? Perhaps it's because we live in different cultures but this sounds ridiculous.
In here school gives us our diplomas and that's practically it. If students want a "prom" they will pay for it themselves and usually they don't have it in school territory.

Frags, frags, frags. :no:
Homophobia is sooo Sudan or Afghanistan.

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What cowards.

If the school administration felt the need to take a stand on sexual orientation - which is not at all their place - they should have disallowed the girl to attend and dealt with the lawsuits and backlash. That would have at least been a principled stand.

But to turn it back around on the 16 year old girl by canceling the prom altogether is just pathetic. It reeks of immaturity and spite. She is going to be tortured for this. :shame:

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Perfectly summed up.

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Frags, frags, frags. :no:
Homophobia is sooo Sudan or Afghanistan.

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And Mississipi apparently, that's not the point.

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This is weird. Why should the school pay for prom? Perhaps it's because we live in different cultures but this sounds ridiculous.
In here school gives us our diplomas and that's practically it. If students want a "prom" they will pay for it themselves and usually they don't have it in school territory.

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Good point. This wiki article looks at Proms and prom-type events in other countries. Everything from state-paid to privately-sponsored. Over here the hundreds of thousands of School Districts (roughly equivalent to a County) set their own standards and policies. Most derive their funding from a combination of local Property Taxes, AND (this is a big "and") subsidies from State and Federal Governments. Those subsidies entitle those gov'ts to dictate policy and standards to the districts and schools.

To me, THAT is the weird part: distant politicians and technocrats in Washington DC and Jackson MS telling a smallish Mississippi school what they can and can't allow. But it sets the stage for Federal Court cases like Fricke v. Lynch; if you take the Fed or State dollar, you dance to their tune.

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distant politicians and technocrats in Washington DC and Jackson MS telling a smallish Mississippi school what they can and can't allow. But it sets the stage for Federal Court cases like Fricke v. Lynch; if you take the Fed or State dollar, you dance to their tune.

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Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?

Touche', as they say in Paraguay. :)

Next thing you know they'll be giving children the vote.

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Maybe prom-night was important to the other kids, but screw others of course there are more important things, like her for example. Some people just like traditions get over it, shrug it of. The people running the schools are idiots, but she is a provocateur.

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Traditions...like wearing a burqa? I guess if you daughter was going to a mostly muslim school you'd say she should wear one to respect their traditions...no need to provoke.

Stupid decision by the school. Who was she going to harm?

CR

What I'm not getting is why she apparently needed to ask for permission. Maybe prom works differently down south, but up here, we just sorta came with whoever. Not like we sent a letter of intent as to who our date was to the admin.

Either way, that was just a spiteful move to cancel prom.

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What I'm not getting is why she apparently needed to ask for permission. Maybe prom works differently down south, but up here, we just sorta came with whoever. Not like we sent a letter of intent as to who our date was to the admin.

Either way, that was just a spiteful move to cancel prom.

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Probably some form of registration.

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Umm, twas a joke. Electing a prom "queen" with gay men might get interesting.

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I knew I'd get lucky. :jumping:


Last year, students at Fairfax Senior High School in Los Angeles elected gay senior Sergio Garcia as prom queen."That was news, even in Los Angeles,"

https://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4388/promqueen.jpg

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I knew I'd get lucky. :jumping:


Last year, students at Fairfax Senior High School in Los Angeles elected gay senior Sergio Garcia as prom queen."That was news, even in Los Angeles,"

https://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4388/promqueen.jpg

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I posted that, Louis, bad boy.

Finally, the proof I have been looking for that nobody reads Beskar's posts.





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Finally, the proof I have been looking for that nobody reads Beskar's posts.

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Who or what is this "Beskar" you're talking about?

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Nooo!!

I've got Beskar's post on RSS feed. They're send directly to my mobile phone, that I never waste a minute more of my life ignorant of yet another great new insight by Bessy.

Alas though, Beskar edited in his prom queen after I had already read the post, thereby nastily Lemuring me. Such are the limits of modern technology.

And so we have it: now Lemur is not only a proper noun, it is also a regular noun AND a verb.

Yet again the French totally misinterpret an attempt at humour. I mean, if a Norwegian got it...

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Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?

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Segragation now, Segragation tamarwa, segragation forever

Interesting anecdote; back around the year 2000, my high school elected a lesbian as prom king as a joke. The school, which is in a somewhat rural and conservative area, didn't cancel prom - though after that year they required kings to be male and queens to be female.

Bout time those LA hicks caught up. ~;p

CR

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Yeah, what's next eh? Washington telling some Mississippi school to desegragate?

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Been there, done that. Sorta...

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Earlier this month, on the Friday night of the white prom, Kera Nobles, a senior who is black, and six of her black classmates drove over to the local community center where it was being held...

After the last couple were announced... Kera and her friends piled into a nearby KFC to eat...

The seven teenagers — a mix of girls and boys — slowly worked their way through two buckets of fried chicken. They cracked jokes about the white people’s prom

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lmao

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Yet again the French totally misinterpret an attempt at humour. I mean, if a Norwegian got it...

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I got the joke. HoreTore made the obvious follow-up already, so I had to come up with something more elaborate.

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Frags, frags, frags. :no:
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HAHAHAHAH! CLASSIC FRAG!

That schools seems very childish, although I am wondering why she announced her date before hand. At our school formal a homosexual girl arrived wearing a suit with and her girlfriend. She didn't announce it before hand though, she just turned up, she even got up in front of all the students and parents and shook hands with the principal when she got her certificate. Nothing imposing about it at all, as far as I know no one was infected with homosexuality.

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HAHAHAHAH! CLASSIC FRAG!

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Would have been had I sided with the school, but I did't.

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she could just suck it up and respect peoples traditions, the world doesn't have to change just for her.

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What's that?

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Well prom for example. Not so strange they don't like that in Hillbilly-land. She knows it will greatly upset them, that is why she's doing it. The people there aren't ready for this. I don't see the problem, the other kids get their prom, she gets her attention she was looking for, everybody happy. No way the school didn't threaten to call of the prom altogether if she didn't back of. She started rolling on the floor and started screaming, like kids do when they don't get what they want when they want it.

If you're going to draw a parallel to a child chucking a tantrum then I'd say it was the school, stamping it's foot and saying "Fine! If we can't get what we want, nobody else gets what they want!"

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Well prom for example. Not so strange they don't like that in Hillbilly-land. She knows it will greatly upset them, that is why she's doing it. The people there aren't ready for this. I don't see the problem, the other kids get their prom, she gets her attention she was looking for, everybody happy.

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Haha. There isn't some great Lesbian conspiracy to overthrow the straights. She just wanted to celebrate graduating with her partner.

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No way the school didn't threaten to call of the prom altogether if she didn't back of. She started rolling on the floor and started screaming, like kids do when they don't get what they want when they want it.

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Assumption based on 0 facts.

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But very, very likely. Also very likely that there have been numerous talks with her on how sensitive these things are. She's an activist.

Even if she was an activist, which you can't prove so far, what's the problem? If she tried to underline that Mississippi is full of religous nutjobs who hunt down gays for their entertainment, she hit right on the spot.

Either she simply wanted to go the prom with her date (in which case the school is retard), or she wanted to make a political point and succedeed.

The fact that 'those people' and their 'tradition' are not any better than muslim fundamentalists and fascists doesn't make them right. Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights (an argument that you bring forth all the time when discussing Geert Wilders), and that's precisely what she did: she stood up for her right to be a lesbian and to have a date without being a pariah.

Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.

To be fair, I don't think we can blame this one entirely on religion. There are plenty of small-minded bigots who don't need the Bible or the Qu'ran to tell them to hate gays. They do just fine on their own...

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Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.

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Going to your school prom isn't a human right, when it's a private function they make the rules, there's no need for social authoritarianism to make everyone conform. Although if the event is funded by the state then I guess the school shouldn't really break its rules.

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Even if she was an activist, which you can't prove so far, what's the problem? If she tried to underline that Mississippi is full of religous nutjobs who hunt down gays for their entertainment, she hit right on the spot.

Either she simply wanted to go the prom with her date (in which case the school is retard), or she wanted to make a political point and succedeed.

The fact that 'those people' and their 'tradition' are not any better than muslim fundamentalists and fascists doesn't make them right. Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights (an argument that you bring forth all the time when discussing Geert Wilders), and that's precisely what she did: she stood up for her right to be a lesbian and to have a date without being a pariah.

Maybe Rosa Parks shouldn't have stood up for her right to sit in a bus. I mean, she was totally not respecting white scumbags and their tradition.

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Rosa parks didn't fight her battles over the heads of others, this girl does, she is self-centred enough to sabotage other peoples prom. Of course she knew this would happen.

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Of course she knew this would happen.

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She knew that the schoold would cancel the prom? Great job blaming the girl for a nonsense decision by the school.
Was there any compelling reason for the school to cancel the event? Would she have jeopardized the event in any way had she shown up with her girlfriend while wearing a tuxedo?

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She knew that the schoold would cancel the prom? Great job blaming the girl for a nonsense decision by the school.

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Of course she knew that it's Redneckstan. School wouldn't have had a choice in the first place because of parent pressure. Missisippi is you know, kinda conservative. You don't have to feel sorry for her, she got exactly out of this what she wanted.

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she got exactly out of this what she wanted.

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Of course there might be the slight chance that "what she wanted" was simply going to the prom with her date - not unusual for a teenager, you know...

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Of course there might be the slight chance that "what she wanted" was simply going to the prom with her date - not unusual for a teenager, you know...

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May have started like that. I am sure it would have turned out perfectly cute, I don't exactly have a problem with hot lesbians kissing in the first place, two women is better then one. Look at it from the perspective from the school, how many kids wouldn't be allowed to show up by their parents? Given the hate for gays in these area's it could be a considerable amount, it would be a major scandal. Faggot-school this faggot school that they might even get attacked. You don't have to like it but that is how it is.

Why is it up to the 16 year old girl to be the adult in this situation? So the school adminstration is either homophobic or worried about the delicate sensibilities of homophobic parents? Its their job to act in the best interest of the child, not submit to local intolerances.

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Why is it up to the 16 year old girl to be the adult in this situation? So the school adminstration is either homophobic or worried about the delicate sensibilities of homophobic parents? Its their job to act in the best interest of the child, not submit to local intolerances.

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It could also be that the school wanted to spare everybody's feelings when they shut down the prom altogether, she put them in a pretty nasty position to be in. The school knew she was gay and let that go, maybe the school is little bit more progressive then it appears to be from this story. Or maybe not, never been there. Also consider the hint of innocence that surrounds the prom, kissing lesbians is extremely erotic, I would blame the place not the school.

Prom is pretty much the high of the year for them. So no, you are not going to spare everybody by canceling it. And kissing lesbians is as erotic or not as any couple kissing; it depends entirely on the perspective of the onlooker. So if that is even a reason for a decision to cancel the event because some couple might start kissing (nevermind now whether or not the couple is lesbian) means the school board should “grow up and get over it”.

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Yes it really does, that's the point.

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Going to your school prom isn't a human right, when it's a private function they make the rules, there's no need for social authoritarianism to make everyone conform. Although if the event is funded by the state then I guess the school shouldn't really break its rules.

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Sorry, just had to pick myself up off the floor because I was laughing at the classic conservative double-talk you just threw in there. The school, by insisting that only male/female pairs may attend the prom, is the party engaging in "social authoritarianism." The tactic you used is a mainstay in the conservative anit-gay arsenal: trying to make it look like the homosexual community is trying to force everyone to adopt its lifestyle, when in fact, it's the complete opposite. The conservatives are the ones trying to make everyone else conform to their own morality and live life by their rules.

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Of course she knew that it's Redneckstan. School wouldn't have had a choice in the first place because of parent pressure. Missisippi is you know, kinda conservative. You don't have to feel sorry for her, she got exactly out of this what she wanted.

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If all she wanted was to cause a fuss, you'd think there would be dozens of other things she would have done as well. But there are many people who only make a fuss over a single issue, and otherwise don't make a fuss. So isn't it odd to claim that she is just doing it to piss people off?

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It could also be that the school wanted to spare everybody's feelings when they shut down the prom altogether, she put them in a pretty nasty position to be in. The school knew she was gay and let that go, maybe the school is little bit more progressive then it appears to be from this story. Or maybe not, never been there. Also consider the hint of innocence that surrounds the prom, kissing lesbians is extremely erotic, I would blame the place not the school.

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The school knew she was gay and "let it go?" What action do you believe the school could or should have taken against her for the offense of being gay?

And sorry, exactly whose feelings do you think the school is sparing?

it's Mississippi

There still trying to figure out why there are people with a different skin color than them. Now girls can like girls? I can't imagine what those poor WASPs thinkning it must be hard