Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Kralizec]

So Proletariat was Donna Barzini eh? Oh well.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wow.

Incredible game, major kudos to Seamus for running this thing.

I do apologize to the Barzini family for kind of ruining everything, my motives were previously explained. Rather lame, I know. But the two people I named did survive. Hope that faked chatlog helped.

[Csargo]

I told you all it was fake.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

For those of you who never quite had this calculated...and those who did.

The Players

AggonyDuck – Started as a Wise Guy – No Role Change – Murdered (N3) by Orb.

Alexander the Pretty Good – Started as a Wise Guy – Joined Barzini Family (N3) – Became Made Gangster (D6) – Murdered MRD (N3), Moody (N4), Dutch (N5), HughT (N6), Destro (N7), ByzK (N9), Missed Ituralde (N8); Lynched (D10).

Banquo’s Ghost – Started as a Townie – No Role Change – Suicided (D5).

Beirut – Started as a Made Gangster (Tataglia) – No Role Change – Lynched (D3).

Big King Sanctaphrax – Started as a Townie – No Role Change – Surviving Winner.

ByzantineKnight – Started as Luca (Tataglia) – No Role Change – Murdered Ultrawar (N5), Crazed Rabbit (N6), Missed Caius (N4), Xiahou (N8); Murdered (N9) by AtPG & Pindar.

Caius Flaminius – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered (N4) by Andres, Arach & HughT.

Copperhaired Berzerker – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Suicided (N4).

CountArach – Started as a Wise Guy – Joined Tataglia Family (D5), Made Gangster (N6), Don Tataglia (D7); Murdered Caius (N4), Ultrawar (N5), Rabbit (N6), Missed Sasaki (N1), Redleg (N2), Xiahou (N8) – Murdered (N8) by Pindar & Hagen.

Cowhead 418 – Started as a FBI Detective – Townie (D10) – Surviving Winner.

Crazed Rabbit – Started as Made Gangster (Barzini) – No Role Change – Murdered General (N1), Stig (N2), Boo (N4), Sigurd (N5), Kommo (N6); Attacked Moros (N3) – Murdered (N6) by ByzK, Arach & HughT.

Destroyer of Hope – Started as Detective – No Role Change – Murdered (N7) by Alex, Hagen & Xiahou.

Doc_bean – Started as Doctor – Surgeon (N8) – Saved Sasaki (N1), Redleg (w/ group), Ituralde (N8) – Surviving Winner.

Drisos – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Wogged (N7).

Dutch_Guy – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered (N5) by Alex & Xiahou.

General Hankerchief – Started as Luca (Corleone) – No Role Change – Murdered (N1) by Rabbit, Hagen & Pindar.

Hepcat – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Wogged (N5).

HughTower – Started as a Wise Guy – Joined Tataglia Family (Family (D5), Made Gangster (N6) – Murdered Caius (N4), Ultrawar (N5), Rabbit (N6), Missed Sasaki (N1), Redleg (N2) – Murdered (N6) by Alex & Xiahou

Ichigo – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Suicided (D2).

Ignoramus – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Wogged (N5).

Ironside – Started as Townie – Became Doctor (N6) – Saved Redleg (N2) & JimBob (N6) – Surviving Winner.

Ituralde – Started as Doctor – Became Surgeon (N2) – Saved Sasaki (N1) & Redleg (N2) – Surviving Winner.

JimBob – Started as Townie – Became Detective (D6) to replace Guru – Surviving Winner.

Kagemusha – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Missed Jimbob (N6), mostly attempted protections – Survivor.

Kommodus – Started as Townie – Became Doctor (N6) – Saved Redleg (N2), JimBob (N6) both with groups – Murdered (N6) by Rabbit & Pindar.

Kralizec (Fenrig) – Started as Don Tataglia – No Role Change – Lynched (D2).

Luigi VI di Fatlington – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Saved JimBob (N6) w/ group, Missed Pindar (N8) – Surviving Winner.

Major Robert Dump – Started as Made Gangster (Corleone) – No Role Change – Murdered (N3) by Alex and Xiahou.

MarcusBrutus – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Wogged (N5).

Masy – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Suicided (D7).

Moros – Started as Rogue Detective – No Role Change – Murdered Andres (N4) – Lynched (D8).

Lord Motep of Kendermore – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Lynched (D5).

Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered Andres (N4), Saved JimBob (N6) – Surviving Winner.

Orb – Started as Serial Killer – No Role Change – Murdered AggonyDuck (N3), Ultrawar (N6), Xiahou (N8), Pindar (N9) – Identity revealed (D9?), Escaped.

Pannonian – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Suicide (N6).

Papewaio – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Surviving Winner.

Peasant Phil – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Suicide (N5).

pevergreen – Started as Don Corleone – No Role Change – Lynched (D4).

Pindar – Started as Wise Guy – Joined Barzini Family (N1), Made Gangster (N4) – Murdered Hankerchief (N1), Stig (N2), Boo (N4), Sigurd (N5), Kommo (N6), Arach (N8), ByzK (N9); Attacked Moros (N3), Arach (N7) – Murdered by Orb (N9).

Proletariat – Started as Donna Barzini – No Role Change – Escaped.

Redleg – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Saved JimBob (N6), Missed Pindar (N8) – Surviving Winner.

Reenk Roink – Started as Luca (Barzini) – No Role Change – Murdered Arach (N7), Missed Hagen (N8) – Escaped.

Sasaki Kojiro – Started as The Wolf – No Role Change – Lynched (D7).

Sigurd Fafnesbane – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered (N5) by Rabbit & Pindar.

Sir Boo – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Murdered Caius (N4), Missed Sasaki (N1), Redleg (N2), Guru (N3) – Murdered (N4) by Rabbit & Pindar.

Sir Moody – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Missed Sasaki (N1) – Murdered (N4) by Alex and Xiahou.

Stig – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Murdered (N2) by Rabbit, Pindar & Xiahou.

The Stranger – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered Andres (N4) – Lynched (D6).

TheRTWGuru – Started as Detective – No Role Change – Suicided (N5).

Tom_Hagen – Started as Wise Guy – Joined Barzini Family (N1), Made Gangster (N8) – Murdered Hankerchief (N1), Destro (N7), Arach (N8) – Lynched (D9).

Tribesman – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Suicided (D2).

Ultrawar – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Murdered (N5) by ByzK, Arach & HughT.

Warluster – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Murdered Andres (N4), Saved Moros (N3) w/ Group – Murdered (N6) by Orb.

Xdeathfire – Started as Wise Guy – No Role Change – Suicided (D7).

Xiahou – Started as Wise Guy – Joined Barzini Family (N2), Made Gangster (N4) – Murdered Stig (N2), MRD (N3), Moody (N4), Dutch (N5), HughT (N6), Destro (N7), Missed Ituralde (N8) – Murdered (N8) by Orb.

Zalmoxis – Started as Townie – No Role Change – Wogged (N5).

AndrestheCunning – Added as Wise Guy (D3) – No Role Change – Murdered Caius (N4) – Murdered (N4) by Moros, Omanes, The Stranger & Warluster.



Other summary write-up to follow...but not tonight.

[Kralizec]

Wait, so CountArach got killed because ByzantineKnight (Luca) was busy doing something else?

How sloppy...

Then again, not as sloppy as I was

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Interesting. Seems I was a popular night one choice.

I guess Kralizec's scheme paid off somewhat with those recruits.

Must have been tough trying to win as a serial killer.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Ah, a great one for my first mafia game. Thrilling to the last. Ever since GH's reveal I have been swaying back and forth between believing Proletariat or not. Never had any contact with RR. So it really was the Konservative Klub after all...

For me, the lynching of Moros gave the white gloves away, much more so than the revelation of GH, from which the Barzini's made a good comeback I thought. If they would've let Pindar swing, they might still have won. We were having major doubts about Pindar already, sacrificing him with a faked indiference could've meant a mafia win.

The four warring families made it easier for the town. With the benefit of hindsight, less inter-mafia feuding could have spelled this town's doom. The townies for their part were very hampered by the suicide of some twelve townspeople - half of us. Why do people only want to play as mafia? Townie roles rule! So much less to worry and lie about...

***

Crazed Rabbit - it was an educated guess. But what a lucky shot it was...:biggrin:

A special hello to Tom_Hagen, who fooled me for most of the game but who hopefully still believes my role was that of Polar Bear.

Pevergreen, have you ever seen the movie The Sixth Sense? There's this moment when Bruce Willis sees a wedding ring fall, and suddenly he realises that everything he took to be reality is not. I had this same sensation after reading your simple PM after you got lynched: 'Sasaki really is the Wolf'. In an instant, everything fell into place.

***

Orb - your help at the last stages was crucial for the town victory. So you were the Anakin Skywalker of this saga after all. Surely even a person with your, uh...'occupation' can redeem himself by choosing the light side of the force? By all means, you're a welcome part of the townie jubilation.

To my partners who have fallen: Stig, Kommodus, Moros, even The Stranger - you've been avenged. A salute to Pannonian, who was driven to despair and sacrificed himself for the town. To my partner Omanes, and to my guardian angel Ironside, we made it to the end together, a big thanks to both of you. An a hooray to my fellow townies!

Thanks to Seamus for hosting this game and for keeping up with us. I don't know how this one compares to other games, but I thought it was a total blast!

My final words must be reserved for my main man and good friend Redleg: we won buddy!

[Cowhead418]

Great game, and great win by the town, though it sucks to end the game being fired from my spot as FBI Detective (Filthy Bureau, if only they realized I was working in the best interests of the town. All they care about is their "reputation." Gah. They will rue this day). For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, here is a significant piece of information that I purposely left off my role PM:

You also have a special task: identify and cause to be lynched the serial killer. Unfortunately, since this killer escaped from an FBI facility, the bureau does NOT authorize you to discuss this with anyone else – make this embarrassment go away quietly.

I was fired due to this violation. When I showed Redleg the PM I received from Seamus revealing Orb as the serial killer, I was unintentionally breaking the rules (I thought it wasn't strictly forbidden - a misunderstanding and a big mistake on my part). Incidentally, this backfired for me (but helped the town) because Redleg and Luigi enlisted Orb's help for the final few rounds in destroying the final remnants of the mafia. Though he was crucial in the town victory, he escaped, I got fired, and the FBI are left with a monumental embarassment. Ah well, I might as well celebrate the town victory (and my unemployment) with a few drinks, eh?

[Pannonian]

The pevergreen affair
or Why I committed suicide

As some of us will have found out, the rules forbid the use of screenshots. When pevergreen was lynched, he sent a certain screenshot to The Stranger, who then shared it with Redleg. This breach of rules, combined with the subject matter, severely annoyed Seamus, who privately threatened to shut the game down if it happened again, and publicly delivered a warning to The Stranger (N5). After this there was a lull.

Then, on post #1687, pevergreen made the following post.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

They can be lynched on the day they are being replaced, in other cases, we dont know.

General Question: (I want to be clear about game mechanics) Each mafia family has a wolf and then there is 'the wolf' so there would be four wolves? Is this correct? Wolves are investigators and protectors of bad guys only or can they perform hits? Also, is there a difference in investigative power between a wolf and a detective/FBI guy?

There is one Wolf. Friend of ALL mafia.

All the info i got on what they can do combined from Sasaki and Seamus is:

Wolf can protect MAFIA from investigations, making it appear they turn innocent. BUT IF THEY DO THAT, the mafia family owes the Wolf a favour, which the Don MUST honour, unless it involves something blantantly stupid like killing your own luca.

The Screenshot business is TS fault, and i can see why Seamus didnt allow it.

It is irreputable(sp?) proof that Sasaki is The Wolf..how? It was a screenshot of my Role PM. Ive still got it.

As you can see, this was a reference to the screenshot, spelling out just what the screenshot contained. At a time when Sasaki's survival was in the balance, pevergreen once again flouted the rules by referring to inadmissable evidence. Since Seamus had already made it clear that he was annoyed by the previous breach of the rules, this made the information about the Wolf incontrovertible. This was potentially game-breaking stuff (as later proved to be the case), so the sooner it was removed the better. Then what next?

I couldn't do anything about The Stranger and Redleg (the people who saw the screenshot), but I could do something about me and pevergreen. I would remove myself from the game to avoid prejudicing it with unfairly gained information, while I would warn pevergreen to be silent for the remainder of the game, lest he should make any more posts like this.

Here are my PMs to Seamus and pevergreen.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

To Seamus

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pevergreen wrote a post saying that The Stranger's screenshot was of his role PM saying Sasaki was the Wolf. Now I understand this may be game breaking, so I'm killing myself in the next night phase. I've reported the post, and it has been removed, although you may wish to check with BKS, who was the only mod on duty, whether or not he should follow me out of the game for the same reason. PM pevergreen telling him not to post or communicate again until the game is finished (I've already done so).

I'm going to continue pressing for TS' lynching as a vigilante, but I'm not going to make any other arguments, and once night comes I won't be communicating any more with the players. If you PM me with a list of the roles ahead of the end it'll make watching from the sidelines more interesting.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pevergreen wrote a post saying that The Stranger's screenshot was of his role PM saying Sasaki was the Wolf. Now I understand this may be game breaking, so I'm killing myself in the next night phase. I've reported the post, and it has been removed, although you may wish to check with BKS, who was the only mod on duty, whether or not he should follow me out of the game for the same reason. PM pevergreen telling him not to post or communicate again until the game is finished (I've already done so).

I'm going to continue pressing for TS' lynching as a vigilante, but I'm not going to make any other arguments, and once night comes I won't be communicating any more with the players. If you PM me with a list of the roles ahead of the end it'll make watching from the sidelines more interesting.

Your withdrawal from the game is not necessary. I have enjoyed your play and hope you will continue with it.

If you would prefer to lurk for a time, and confirm that I/others have returned this game to an appropriate path, I would appreciate it. It represents quite an investment of my time.

I was going to go after Sasaki sooner or later, for the reasons stated in the thread. However, with this knowledge, if I do go after him now I can't be persuaded that he's innocent, while if I don't go after him I'll be acting against my role. Hence I think my suicide is the best option for the game, once I've lynched The Stranger. Hopefully the scores will be close enough that I can switch votes and tie Redleg and The Stranger together (literally).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

To pevergreen

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Please remove post 1687 now before anyone else sees it, and I'm suiciding next round after having seen it. Please don't ruin the game for everyone else. And don't post again until the game is over.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Don't let word of the post or this discussion leak out, or you'll ruin the game for others as you've ruined it for me. Just say nothing about it to anyone, and if anyone tries to talk to you about the game, say Seamus has told you to be silent for the rest of the game. Don't look for further loopholes whereby you can still marginally participate. From now on, just watch, don't say anything, or Seamus will just shut the game down.

So I closed out the round by continuing the argument I was making before I saw that post, albeit with rather more vigour than I would otherwise have done. In the next night phase I sent in orders for my suicide. Unfortunately, Sasaki couldn't make much of the extra breathing space I gained for him, as the information about the Wolf was already in the open, and Redleg was determined to nail him.

So Luigi, Redleg, if I was somewhat curt in my response to your asking me to join a protection group, and later to put you in touch with any confirmed townies, this was why. And TS, Moros, if I was a tad savage in my attack on you, this was why.

To conclude: my suicide had nothing to do with proving my innocence. If I later put my towniness on the stake, that was because TS was stupid enough to raise the issue of the bargain.

[Pindar]

I was the last to die, but my Donna escaped. Therefore my death was not in vain. I think I killed more than any other in Fatlington.

I do think the GH reveal is what cost us victory. It forced us into a defensive posture from which we never recovered. The dead should be dead and not be allowed to post information. It is a flaw in the game. Otherwise its pretty fun.

[Redleg]

My final words must be reserved for my main man and good friend Redleg: we won buddy!

Yes indeed - and learned a few valuable Mafia game skills for the next game.

[Motep]

wow...so the famous Cdtc has come to an end. I cant beleive the town won. Nice work!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ya, the rules favored the town.

*sigh*

Oh well, I'll just wait for the next CdTC. Then...

Louis, had we known CountArach was a don, we could've let poor Prole take one for the team and elect a new don, or let Pindar go down. But we got screwed.

CR

[Papewaio]

Phew.

I couldn't participate on weekends... as I promise the wife to minimum PC activity on the weekend. So I almost got WoGged and I almost got lynched because the assumption was that I might be Mafia.

I decided after a couple of days to make an assumption that Redleg was an active townie who knew what he was doing. I also made sure that I would track what he was doing because he could just have easily been a Don.

I decided to go wingman and have him lead my protection missions. I was worried that I was helping a mafia family.

But I figured that as a townie I would have a better chance against one family then 3. And at least I could possibly get the group lynched at the end if there was enough townies left.

Although right to the end I though it might have been myself being lynched by Red and his mafia family. Luckily for myself he was the lynch pin for success not for my lynching.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

We should have done away with Orb. He turned on us at the end...

Epic game, guys.

[Kommodus]

You mean... it's over???

Sorry I didn't participate more - I'm still on a break from mafia due to lack of time - but I still check in sometimes just to see what's going on. Please forgive my ignorance, but... why is it over again? Proletariat and Reenk Roink were still alive, so why did they leave town?

Anyway...

This was indeed an excellent game, supremely confusing and highly interactive. Kudos to Seamus Fermanagh for the excellent hosting! Your ideas were truly unique, and this has undoubtedly been the most vibrant mafia game the Org has seen! I gotta say, not half bad for your first game.

[ByzantineKnight]

Lol, our family had the worst luck, first Kralizec then Beriut, then we go through the trouble to get Andres, Hugh Tower, and CountArach to join, and they are all killed...

Good Job Town!!

[pevergreen]

Bah!

After GH got whammied, it kind of went downhill.

Turns out i was right to not trust Sasaki.

Without doubt, the best mafia game i have seen.

[CountArach]

lol, the Tataglia's had such bad luck, as BK said...

I'm a bit scratchy on teh details of before I joined them, but basically I was elevated to Don, with the chance of reviving the family, only to see HughTower killed on that very day, giving no chance for us to kill, unless I went solo...

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Well done everybody and thanks for hosting the game Seamus!

[Warluster]

Yay! We won, but, i have to say a few words, At the start of felt like a little hatchling, and wanted to join the mafia, but I spoke with AggonyDuck on the Chat and he persuaded me to join in with his Protection group. Now to be honest, i didn't really want to join, as I wanted to be an mafia, but i joined anyway (What the heck) but soon after TS contacted me, asking to join his group, anyway, it sounded cool, and I joined, we later off killed Andres, which was good move, (nah-nah na nah-nah) and we protected Moros, but soon after Ts was lycnhed, I gave uip hope after that, but went on anyway, eventually I think I mouted off to much, with those Pm's to Sasaki, and Orb Killed me.

Anyway, good game, probaly the best I ahve played (Hey, i've only played 6 of them) Good game !

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Seamus - I dearly hope you are interested in another game sometime? Though I can only imagine it's been exhausting for you. Thanks again.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Where are my manners?

Seamus, I've said it before and I'll say it again; this was a great game, and many thanks for bringing it about.

CR

[CountArach]

Oh yeah, I forgot my manners as well. Thanks Seamus! Best...game...ever

[Ituralde]

Awesome game! Thanks go to Seamus Fermanagh for hosting this.
Now I can finally delete all of the PMs I tediously saved.

I really liked this game, being a doctor for a change. I couldn't beleive my luck that I managed to get promoted by the earliest time possible. Too bad I have not managed to get lucky again. I would have so liked to kill an attacker!
Besides luck, Kommodus missend of a PM, if this is really to be beleived, really helped me to get in touch with a few doctors. So I was pretty certain to the end that the town could make it. Even if it was just three townies left in the end circle-protecting each other.

[Ironside]

And here I was planning to trying to get Proletariat lynched by safety reasons and lack of other good lynch targets... RR showing up criminal and prole innocent= potential luca and donna, as they were accused of. Poor defense on thier part earlier when accused also made me suspicious. Ahh, well Townie victory!!!

Was contacted on night 2 by Kommodus to form a protection group on Redleg, who was then going public with his analysis. The other member was doc_bean.
When we had our successful save on Redleg, I was going on the principle that both were trustworthy (I'm still not certain if the dons can be in successful protection groups). Then doc_bean started to act a bit wierd and wanted to split up the group, but as I already considered him trustworthy, I didn't think that much of it. During this time Kommodus accidently sent a mail to Ituralde, so we decided to ask him to join us.

Then Ituralde revealed that he was now a surgeon and seeing the mail on Redleg's protection made us certain that he was correct. He was purifying the soup while we switched the wine (wrong comp to see the old mails).

Surgeon = very important role so me and Kommodus decided to protect Ituralde and came in contact with Jimbob and Luigi. During this time I contacted doc again to see which persons he was in contact with, and then he revealed his role as a doctor. Doctors doesn't get protection points for being in groups which explained his earlier behavior. Was in semi-regular contact with doc_bean for the rest of the game, mostly discussion protection targets.
So out of 3 contacted people, Kommodus contacted 2 doctors... He as mafia is lethal

Our 4 men protection group made a few failed attemts, when Jimbob contacted us and asked for protection. As we didn't have any other good potential targets we agreed and did appearently nothing...
A save on Jimbob and no mail. So when we asked about it to Seamus, we got the responce that Kommodus hadn't sent in his mail and that the mail had bounced on luigi's PM-box (appearently bounces for all then). That really didn't make any sence and was highly confusing as well hadd gotten copies of Kommodus' mail, until Seamus later gave us a success, as he had missed the Kommodus' mail. If another group hadn't protected Jimbob that night, this would have been very wierd (oh it was in reality Jimbob's secret twin that was killed this night ). Here I got promoted to doctor, but our group had also been wounded by the loss of Kommodus.

After this I ended up on CR:s list of potential tin star mafia, so after this recent role change I decided that protection could be good, so I asked for Ituralde's protection, whom I'm not sure knew of me a the time. Kommodus might not have revealed my name as doc_bean didn't want to reveal his. Anyway, I forgot to tell Luigi about it so he searched for my protection. The night after I was the only untouched person on that list, 2 dead, 1 attacked. CR:s comments on protection and Tom_Hagen's revealing of knowing that luigi searched people for my protection, made me suspicious of a leaking to the mafia.
And as I had surgeon protection, attacks on me was very preferable. Trying to paint a small target on my back, while not appearing protected was hard, tried to do it by not responding on being on the list.

So the next night I asked Luigi to not fix it, even asked me to semi-frame me (my contact with our proven innocent townie Kommodus was enough to clear me from any suspicion if I was in danger of being lynched), as I asked for Ituralde's protection again. Ituralde asked me to return the favour, but then I already had gotten a mail from doc_bean were he said that Ituralde was protected by him and now we had 2 surgeons. Ituradle cowered me by his own inititive for the rest of the game.

I revealed myself as it was starting to get into the endgame and to clear myself from the list, but I didn't want to mention my field promotion as I would make me a bit too obvious target. It was also to give Luigi a chance to clear himself from the accusations of being a don/luca with Redleg. Tom_Hagen must really have felt himself dead after that.

So I had very little information as the only information provider was Luigi, but the best protection network in the game, especially at the end.

Thanks for a great (but time-consuming ) game Seamus!

[Andres]

Lol, our family had the worst luck, first Kralizec then Beriut, then we go through the trouble to get Andres, Hugh Tower, and CountArach to join, and they are all killed...

Good Job Town!!

It was great fun to blackmail both HughTower and you to force you to join "the Dark Side"

Tattiglia family had bad luck. Kralizecs pm's were a brilliant idea, but unfortunately the text analysis killed him. I think it would have worked if he a) had chosen somebody else, i.e. not Dutch speaking b) let that other one write the message; but still, it was a very nice try and I enjoyed my non-participating participation alot.

Afterwards Seamus put an invitation in his write-up after Kralizec's dead. It was an offer I couldn't refuse. As a token of my gratitude towards Kralizec for introducing me to this great game, I tried to revive his family, but alas...

As for Donna Barzini Proletariat: I told you from the beginning of my participation to lynch her! Why didn't you listen? Not that it would have helped the town that much, but it certainly would have served the Tattaglia's intrests *sigh*

Well, I must say THANK YOU SEAMUS for this great experience

And also DAMN YOU KRALIZEC AND SEAMUS for getting me addicted to mafia games

The Jedi

[HughTower]

It was great fun to blackmail both HughTower and you to force you to join "the Dark Side"

Umm...I contacted Kralizec once he was revealed as Don Tataglia to ask if we (CA, Sir Boo & I) could help his sole remaining mafioso. Blackmail was uneccessary. Our 2 kill missions in N1 & N2 as wiseguys - trying to start our own family - against Sasaki & Redleg had both been foiled (& got Ituralde promoted), & we were a little frustrated.

BTW, Redleg, when I was accusing you in PMs of being a Don (after our failed attack on you), the reason I was doing it privately was because I really thought you were, & I was hoping to find the right angle to offer you my/our services as wiseguys.

Ah well, such intrigue, such fun. And, btw, who was The Messenger?

[ByzantineKnight]

As for Donna Barzini Proletariat: I told you from the beginning of my participation to lynch her! Why didn't you listen? Not that it would have helped the town that much, but it certainly would have served the Tattaglia's intrests *sigh*

What do you mean, you only said to kill Caius Flaminius (Sorry Caius)...

[Moros]

So nopw do you guys believe me? Oh well the most important things are that the town won and that Crazed Rabbit and Pindar didn't survive.