Out of character thread III

[FactionHeir]

Same for me Evan. I need to auo resolve most siege battles that take place in a larger than minor city or larger than castle

[TinCow]

Erm... I'm in need of some immediate advice. I just had Max knock over the other band of rebels near Nuremburg and I've been offered "Man of the Hour" for him. If I accept, it will bring Max into the family tree, but I have no idea where it will assign him. It definitely won't be the Bavaria side, since that doesn't exist yet, so I'm inclined to say no.

Can anyone think of a reason why I should allow Max to enter the family tree? A quick answer is preferable, since I don't think I can save the game with this screen up.

[edit] Don't bother. I hit esc to try and bring up the save screen and it canceled the offer. Guess that's an easy way to solve the problem!

[FactionHeir]

Did you save the game before the battle? If you did, then a double reload clarifies which member he gets adopted by.

[OverKnight]

I realize the bind you're in TC. Your character arc contains celibacy, so you don't want to take up a space that could be used by another avatar and possibly get married. Still Max deserves some recognition. I mean you are Chancellor and all. Besides Max could easily undergo another conversion and embrace polygamy.

Edit: It's too late, but what about the quicksave key?

[econ21]

Intriguing, if somewhat academic, dilemma, TinCow. If it arises again, I would feel free to play it how you wish. I am sure we could role play whatever the outcome is, although we'd be breaking new ground in deciding which House Max was in (the family tree convention clashing with the "House is immutable" rule).

[GeneralHankerchief]

Savegame right back at you, TinCow.

I'll post a battle report and answer PMs later.

[Ignoramus]

I'm guessing you won, GH? Anyway, things look bad for that Alpine fort. I am curious to know what exactly is in that French army.

[TinCow]

The spy next to the army checked them out. It's all assorted militia, let by a unit of mailed knights. Only a threat if they can catch something they outnumber. However, there are reinforcements for it coming from Marseilles.

[FactionHeir]

Too bad captain army battles are autoresolved. Otherwise 2 mounties or mailed could take care of that French stack

[StoneCold]

Hmm... should you guys start protecting your characters against assassinations with spy after what happened to Sigismund?

[TinCow]

It caught me totally off-guard. I can count on one hand the number of family members I've had assassinated in M2TW, and I've played several very long games. The fact that it was one of our best generals, the previous Chancellor, AND the commander of the only force opposing France, just made my mouth drop open when I saw it.

[FactionHeir]

Hmm I can see an edict coming up for the next diet along the lines of "each army commander is to have an escort of at least 1 assassin"

Btw, now I'm really wondering who will be heir if Heinrich passes before Hans comes of age.

[StoneCold]

hmm... smart or just lucky AI? Now the Henry will have to be careful as he is moving towards that area, rt?

[StoneCold]

Is assassin better or spy? In RTW, spy was the better counter to assassins, I never played MTW2, so not idea.

[TinCow]

There is a spy nearby that I was sending to Marseilles. He will definitely be diverted north to find the assassin.

[FactionHeir]

Probably lucky. I'm still not sure what determines the chance of assassination of generals. It doesn't seem to be solely personal security + command as I found AI generals who both had +0 PS but the commander having 5 stars was easier to kill than another new spawned one (after I had assassinated some 4 others) with 2 stars.

[FactionHeir]

Is assassin better or spy? In RTW, spy was the better counter to assassins, I never played MTW2, so not idea.

I'm guessing assassins protect against assassination and spies against spies.
At least my chance of assassination didn't go up after killing a spy guarding inside a settlement in SP.

[TinCow]

After I saved the game and sent it on to Kagemusha, I reloaded and the assassin killed him again. So, whatever the odds were they weren't low. Did any of Sigismund's traits lower his personal security?

[FactionHeir]

After I saved the game and sent it on to Kagemusha, I reloaded and the assassin killed him again. So, whatever the odds were they weren't low. Did any of Sigismund's traits lower his personal security?

None that are on his char sheet. Except if you RP "respects the enemy"

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hmm, odd. I played the save myself and all I got was an "agent detected." Can't remember if he was executed or not.

[StoneCold]

Btw, with no assassins of yours in the region, are you going to use the army to crush the character trick once you locate him?

[FactionHeir]

Well even though edicts 5.8 and 5.16 were narrowly defeated, it does not prevent TC from training assassins and using them.

According to the family tree, it might be that Dietrich becomes heir if Heinrich dies before the age of 62

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well even though edicts 5.8 and 5.16 were narrowly defeated, it does not prevent TC from training assassins and using them.

According to the family tree, it might be that Dietrich becomes heir if Heinrich dies before the age of 62

Agreed. With the wording of the edicts it only forbids taking out "high-profile political targets" and nobility. No mention of counter-espionage.

-edit- Dietrich is way older than Henry, so it shouldn't matter.

[FactionHeir]

Agreed. With the wording of the edicts it only forbids taking out "high-profile political targets" and nobility. No mention of counter-espionage.

-edit- Dietrich is way older than Henry, so it shouldn't matter.

Well, there are no edicts forbidding the taking out of nobility and political targets, only those promoting it not passing, unless that is the same according to the game rules.

It does matter because even though Dietrich might be older, if he the new heir dies, then his oldest adopted son becomes heir. Either way, the royal line would forever move away from Swabia.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, if permission is specifically asked for something and it is denied, then I believe it is essentially the same thing as it being forbidden. It probably would have been better if Mandorf not brought up the issue at all, even though he spoke out against the edicts. If anyone wants it changed then they're going to have to wait until the next Diet session.

[OverKnight]

Whoa. . .econ that's a major character shift.

[Ignoramus]

I feel horrible. Suddenly I am no longer about to become Duke of Swabia or the Prinz. And what's more, Sigismund didn't have a glorious death on the battlefield.

Who assassinated him? That faction ought to be wiped out as an example.

[econ21]

It's a bummer - sorry about that, Ignoramus.

No need to make a quick decision, but at some stage, you should give some thought to your next incarnation. You could stay in the House of Swabia as the 6th Elector or you could try something different, signing up for another House.

I need to sleep, but this PBM is proving eventful.

[Ignoramus]

I know, I saw the Mausoleum thread, and I though Heinrich had kicked the bucket and now I'd be Prinz.

Instead, I find that my character's been assassinated.

I had an idea. Couldn't I take command of the captain leading Sigismund's army? I know this is against the constitution, but if you or GH could call an emergency Diet, as having a Count being assassinated isn't an everyday occurance, we could pass an ammendment.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry Ignoramus, look at it from an RP perspective. The army just lost their gallant commander to a nasty assassin. They wouldn't be too keen to fight without nobility leading them on. Personally, I believe the result of an autoresolve would be the most accurate in this situation.