Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded]

[Privateerkev]

Tell you, not tell us. Big difference
And no, I'm waiting for more night kill writeups before making any serious attempt at a vote as currently any vote is more likely to diminish the town's power by lynching innocents unless we have a really strong lead.

Besides, does it matter if I vote pever or someone else today? He's sure to be lynched anyway.

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

Because its a waste of a lynch to take out someone who we are almost certain of is a townsperson. Even an unhelpful townsperson is still a townsperson, and thus, we're only ensuring that we DON'T lynch a mafioso. Now if people had the sense to realize he was being a fool and nothing more, than he wouldn't be a distraction, now would he? That's sorta why I'm trying to get people to realize that he's not a detective, so we can basically tune him out.

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

[seireikhaan]

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

[Privateerkev]

If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Much like you've been trying to do. Well, you've at least been trying to stay "low-key".

As for the lurkers, we'll go after them too if they don't get WoG'd.

I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is )

[seireikhaan]

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is )

And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

[Privateerkev]

And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

If you have a better target, I'd like to hear it. And I'm not convinced yet by the arguments against Tiberius.

Pever distracted the town and tried to throw suspicion on Kag, who might very well be innocent. We should let him live because?

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

[Craterus]

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

Why are you?

Even you don't think pever is mafia so why lynch him? The aim is to lynch the mafia so there's little point in lynching someone who is believed to be innocent. Thus, may as well lynch another possibly-more-helpful, but possibly mafia, 'townie'.

[FactionHeir]

PK the Grand Inquisitor
You happy with khaan and my answers now or you want to continue to grill us and let some others get away with killing townies?
Those that don't reply to you are probably a lot more scummy.

[Privateerkev]

Why are you?

Even you don't think pever is mafia so why lynch him? The aim is to lynch the mafia so there's little point in lynching someone who is believed to be innocent. Thus, may as well lynch another possibly-more-helpful, but possibly mafia, 'townie'.

Because I'm trying to figure out why khaan is going so hard-corp on Tiberius but he gives Pever a total pass. At least be consistent...

And again, if there is a better choice than pever, than name it. Otherwise, cull the unhelpful townies from the group.

[seireikhaan]

Tiberius blatantly ignored previous data given in two different posts to lodge a quick vote before soon disappearing into the background again to lurk. Further condemning, he completely mischaracterized CR's vote in an attempt to justify his own vote. What part of that do you not feel is scummy?

Btw, I could say that you're trying awfully hard to make sure pever DOES get lynched. The pendulum swings both ways.

[Tratorix]

Tiberius blatantly ignored previous data given in two different posts to lodge a quick vote before soon disappearing into the background again to lurk. Further condemning, he completely mischaracterized CR's vote in an attempt to justify his own vote. What part of that do you not feel is scummy?

Tiberius acts like this in almost every game i've seen him in. He pops up about once per round and puts up either a random or bandwagon vote. I pretty much just tune him out, even though it seems scummy. I believe the only time i've seen him as mafia, he was trying to be active and helpful.

[FactionHeir]

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

I don't think you can argue that I have not contributed towards the town
If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

Because he is a townie.