The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Dudes, trust me on this. Motep is innocent.

[Husar]

The problem is, a certain someone is connected with Motep as far as I know, so if GH vouches for them he would also be Jotun, that would make four of them. If Pkev is Jotun then a certain someone else has to be Jotun as well and we would still be facing two of them.

OR

We only have a serial killer left which may be some kind of "sidequest" of some other role, say, the champion of Lord XY is a bit nuts and wants to be the only one alive and rule over all norse.

OR

We get no kills tonight and Sigurd announces that the town won but either TinCow or Pkev won't be alive anymore.

[Motep]

I can, as the king of Sweeden, vouch for Disco and GH, my champions.

So..at least two Jotun confirmed dead?

[TinCow]

But only the echo chamber of the townie network can read what you guys wrote in your QT forum.

I am perfectly fine with posting the URL to that forum. I suggested it on there a while ago. PK was the one who preferred to keep it secret.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I think that'd be a good idea.

CR

[seireikhaan]

Indeed. Lets see it.

[Csargo]

I don't see why we should. All they've done is insult us this entire time. What a waste of time.

[TinCow]

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/msWHRHLPqXM

Apologies to any of the townie network that disagrees with me publicizing this, but I agree with the rest that it's for the good of us all. Everything of any importance has already been disclosed in there anyway.

[Warmaster Horus]

Finally. Let's see what probably got infiltrated.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I don't see why we should. All they've done is insult us this entire time. What a waste of time.

And all you guys have done is lynch Loki and me instead of a Jotun.

CR

[Csargo]

And all you guys have done is lynch Loki and me instead of a Jotun.

CR

Yes, and the town has lynched: Odin and Tratorix

glyphz: 12 (Andres, Eliit, Fenring, GH, Ichigo, Kukri, LG, PK, Seamus, shlin, TinCow, Warmaster)

Oh look at that three of us... We didn't force anyone to lynch anyone. We gave you what we had on Loki and the "town" decided to lynch Loki. We aren't even sure Loki was pro-town anyways.

All we've done is give you guys information, you're trying to blame a few people for what everyone has done.

[TinCow]

I still say lynching Loki was the right thing to do at the time. There was no possible way to trust that role.

[FactionHeir]

I'm thinking the game isn't over because either the dwarf needs to be killed too, or only one faction may be alive. Note that the reason of this meeting is the dispute between Norway and Sweden.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't act so innocent. PK outed Loki and you guys led the charge on his lynching.

[Warmaster Horus]

Hey, Loki was a fair lynch. There were other stuff though. Not letting CR have a chance at revealing his identity, though...

I'll admit, I jumped on more than one bandwagon, but complaining about Loki's lynching is wrong. He's a trickster, and the way Glyphz acted we couldn't know what was going to happen.

[Csargo]

Don't act so innocent. PK outed Loki and you guys led the charge on his lynching.

Yes, and you Holmganged a townie because you were bored...

[Craterus]

This just sums up the problems with the town. Such rubbish.

Firstly, the dispute is between Norway and Denmark. And the Danes are all dead, the last write up even said so but the network knew a long time ago.

Also, I asked for only one rule when we started the network. My my, how such things are forgotten. This was all so unnecessary.

And by the by, the network was good. It worked. Might be worth looking at who we didn't lynch rather than who we did. Because we're at the end game with 2 gods and 4 lords. Not doing so badly, eh?

I'm sure I don't need to remind you but prior to the original four participants talking (that is: myself, PK, TinCow and Ichigo), the town had lynched a God and a Lord. So a tiny part of me thinks that it might have been necessary to get some mutual awareness between the powertown roles so that they would stop lynching each other.

Furthermore, you'll notice the stupidity of tonight's Holmgang considering these were the starting four, way before the cries of 'infiltration!'.

[seireikhaan]

A few things still bugging me: WHY KILL FENRING? Why was he killed? That still makes no logical sense, even for a new mafioso, and I'd be willing to bet that the mafioso had at least one experienced player on its team. If Fenring was indeed innocent, why would any half smart mafioso kill him?

The answer? They wouldn't.

However... A third party just might. The death of a prime lynch target at night would theoretically lead to one conclusion: That the town has some kind of vigelante, or hired killer. However, I somehow doubt that, because the dwarf has been killing all game long. Which brings me to a further point: Why would a Jotun disguise himself as a dwarf? A regular man, sure. But for a mighty Jotun to disguise himself as a dwarf, a tiny person, is frankly ridiculous by my judgement. It would be too disgraceful for a mighty Jotun to lower themself to such a standard, even if to accomplish their goal.

There has to be a third party at work here. A third party which might not have to worry about being lynched, a third party that feels extremely secure. And I think that third party has infiltrated the town network. Look amonst yourselves, through all the PMs and the quicktopic. Someone's playing you.

My suspects: TinCow and PrivateerKev.

PK, to be honest, you've been on my radar for a while now. Something has twigged my alarm radar, but I kept hit hidden for a while to try and make sure I didn't blow anything for a pro-town role, and to gather more info.

TC- Lets be honest, you're very, very good at it. I'm going to be honest- your behavior strikes me similar to your behavior as Hades, though you obviously didn't claim quite as powerful as a role. You're being out of your way to "help" the town cause. Bear in mind, you disclosed a quicktopic thread in that game once it had run its usefulness out, much like the quicktopic has now in this game.

If I had to pick a target for lynch next round, it would be TinCow.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, for the last time:

a) I challenged FH to Holmgang because, at the time, he was considered suspicious.

b) Are you truly comparing the death of a townie to that of a God?

[Csargo]

I am, he is not proven as a protown role.

[Crazed Rabbit]

My role knows more about history than any other mortal - so if my role thought the dwarf was a Jotun, then I'd put some weight in that.

CR

[glyphz]

With the game seemingly unfinished and the dwarf with the STD (Spit-Transmitted DEATH) still on the loose, the network's plan (using Holmgang, in conjunction with Tyr and Thor) sounds sensible, unless something better can be thought up

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Hey, Loki was a fair lynch. There were other stuff though. Not letting CR have a chance at revealing his identity, though...

I'll admit, I jumped on more than one bandwagon, but complaining about Loki's lynching is wrong. He's a trickster, and the way Glyphz acted we couldn't know what was going to happen.

I'm more into rooting out the Jotun. 'Cause looking back ...I agree that Loki was the best lynch target. Fair?
Just to clear something

The way I role-played, bluffing that Loki could choose sides, only looked like I was shooting my own foot. ( now that you know that Loki was supposed to be 100% pro-town ...whether you believe it or still don't)
The only reason I acted thus, was because Loki was revealed, and could already predict who'll be getting the most votes, anyway. I just decided to go out with a 'splash,' and not completely waste a good role.
Now if Loki was given a chance to work with the town, I'm sure you'd find him more cooperative and understanding.
Less confusing, cryptic? Yes.
Less 'loud'? A tad less arrogant (or 'annoying')?

Unlikely.
...
...
(On the public thread at least :P)

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If Loki remained hidden, he'd still be dead anyway, judging from the way the network treated CR. Loki would balk at the possibility of revealing to another Aesir, as the role states. ("Someone you fear." ) I thought Heimdall, but no Heimdall here. It seems Loki has a good reason to fear somthing else... midgets that like to ruin good liquor
...and a date with the reaper

If he refuses to reveal to the network = lynch votes.
If he openly revealed he was Loki, alarms and suspicions would be raised ...eventually = lynch votes.
(too much dependence on MS I script, but that's a natural way of approaching MS II)
Loki is dead once publicly revealed. Period.

I'm not into bashing the 'network,' as now I can see how, if played well and not infiltrated, can assure a townie victory.
The only gripe that I see is tension with other townie roles, those kept in the dark and certain unique roles (Loki and CR's).
If you are innocent, and consider revealing to a network not in your best interest (playing style or any other reasons), the mafia is not the only guys you should end up fearing...

.

[Husar]

Concerning Pkev and TinCow, they both have a lord claiming them to be their champion, with TinCow I'd even say it is waterproof because that lord is my lord and Sigurd specifically named him.

And one thing that intrigues me is where Craterus got those 4 alive lords from? If I am counting correctly, there are only 3 left unless someone claimed a lord as his champion in which case it would be about time to tell us because that sort of thing is absolutely not waterproof at all kinda like, you know....

[Csargo]

I've been thinking about this for a while now and looking around a bit.

You've got Husar's role:

Huggne "The Saxon"

Your role is War Veteran. You serve the Lord of Jomsborg. You feel patriotic towards your faction and will rejoice at the other factions misfortune should they be killed either by Holmgang or Jotun. Your duty to your king and the Allthing is to find and promptly execute the Jotun that hides in the King’s retinues during the day phase of the game. During the night phase and starting in round 2, you will be able to show off your skills with the sword and challenge any other player to a Holmgang.

May the Gods be with you.

Holmgang ability: 5

Sarathos's role:

Sander "the southener"

Your role is War Veteran. You serve the King of Jorvik. You feel patriotic towards your faction and will rejoice at the other factions misfortune should they be killed either by Holmgang or Jotun. Your duty to your king and the Allthing is to find and promptly execute the Jotun that hides in the King’s retinues during the day phase of the game. During the night phase and starting in round 2, you will be able to show off your skills with the sword and challenge any other player to a Holmgang.

May the Gods be with you.

Holmgang ability: 5

and pever's role:

HUMAN

Peder "the new"

Greetings player, you have pulled the role of townie out of my hat and you will be hunting Jotun in this game. During the day phase you will participate by voting for a candidate you believe might be Jotun. Use the form described in the opening post in the game thread. During the night phase you can challenge players to a duel. This is also described in the opening post.

Duel score: X

Notice something similar? They all have blue. Now my PM doesn't have any blue in it and neither does TC's. None of them do. I just ignored it at first as nothing much, but now after reading Wikipedia, and seeing that Hel is described as:

She is half blue-black and half flesh-color

Hel is the woman who rides away with Warluster in Midgard I.

Now this wouldn't bother me so much, but pever rides away on a horse with a beauty:

Pever found himself behind an incredible beauty on a horse galloping through the sky.

Pever claimed he was a townie, and last game townie's didn't go to Valhalla. They went the way of El Diablo, Kage, Omanes, etc. to nowhere. Warluster's death scene from Midgard I:

Warluster was greeted by a sweet woman’s voice and the scent of fresh air: “Welcome strong one, I will take care of you.”

Warluster was Jotun, but I think this particular write-up has already been posted in the thread. It's there to prove a point. Townies don't go to Valhalla, they don't go anywhere, which doesn't match up with pever's death.

I'm wanting to see what you guys think about all this, and if maybe there is something behind all this insanity I'm spewing. I don't know it just all seems like too much of a coincidence.

Ichigo

I PMed this to the townie group a couple of days ago. Since Sarathos was Jotun it seems to hold a little more weight now. Plus, pever defending Sarathos in the thread before he was lynched.

I've also been thinking that Tyr may only be able to see who the Jotun is if he chooses to bless one of the people that end up being Holmganged.

[Husar]

There is a small flaw here my friends, my lord Ichigo should have a confirmation from Sigurd that I became his champion and the PM he just posted I gave to ONE person with an agreement that it stays between me and that person. Well, the person handed it on, obviously including my oh so superawesome secret Holmgang score that he just posted and now I am pissed.

Challenge: Motep

Someone will die tonight and I want some action even if it costs my life.
Next game do not expect any reveals from me.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Ok, we have some things sorted out then, Sarathos was indeed Jotun.

Since the game isn't over yet there must be some secondary objective, or a Jotun is still alive.

As I said I gave Sarathos an amulet last night and according to Sigurd this would stop him from killing. Since the only kill was by the dwarf, and there was that epic battle (OOC: I thought that was awesome, great write-up Sigurd!!!) with the wolf creature, then the dwarf would probably still be alive.

I have a really busy schedule this weekend, and any really serious thought will have to wait until Monday.

I don't want to reveal who I protect tonight as it is likely that any remaining killers would avoid them like the plague.

Will see you tomorrow.

Curio

[Sarathos]

Says the man franticly claiming to me as I read this thread that he is town.
"OMG pev im town! Sif they lynch me! OMG im *role*"
"But Sarathos, you said you were *role*"
"Yeah i am. IM TOWN *assorted ramblings*

This conversation never happened.

Objection Your Honour: Relevance...?

Btw Ichigo, my role was never blue, it was green.

[LittleGrizzly]

Just to let you know im still alive, crazy friday.

Anyway challenges so far are

Tincow Vs PK
Husar Vs Motep

I would rather Husar didn't challenge as i already know he's an innocent, but eh too late know.....

I've also been thinking that Tyr may only be able to see who the Jotun is if he chooses to bless one of the people that end up being Holmganged.

It could be, as sarathos was the first fight i got my blessing in, but my role pm would seem to indicate otherwise....

Sorry for the short post, busy weekend, im just waiting for the holmgang, ill try to make it back here in about 6-7 hours...

[Sigurd]

----------- Night time concluded ------------

Writeup in a few...

[Sigurd]

Round 8



The few remaining men of the kingdoms were all in a state of shock. Here among them at Althing Iceland creatures from beyond Midgard had appeared and fought. They still had problems with their hearing after Thor’s block of the rune stone. Who would have thought Sarathos was a creature from Jotunheim? What could have brought this upon them? Why were the Jotun so interested in this Thing meeting? As they started to talk among themselves they got afraid. What would this do to their chances with the afterlife? Had this spoiled their seat at Odin’s table? First the Christians then the Jotun and now Æsir getting hurt. This could very well bring Odin’s wrath upon them.
This was Jomsborg’s fault or rather them taking Bluetooth’s offer. Had they not attacked Norway, they wouldn’t have been here in the first place. The Joms objected. Had it not been for the stubborn Haakon Jarl of Norway, Bluethooth wouldn’t have hired them to “make” him comply. Privateerkev, a Norwegian warrior didn’t like those words at all, well, the words he thought he heard. “We have the right not to be ruled over by some Dane. And we proved it by trashing you Jomsvikings with an army of peasants. Bluethooth might have put Haakon as a puppet Lord of the Norwegians, but he has shown that he can fill the role as a leader of a sovereign nation. It was the Danes that brought this on us with the help of the Joms”. TinCow was not at all happy for taking the blame for this misfortune. “More talk about Jomsborg being deceitful would warrant a Holmgang, friend”. Privateerkev was not amused. “Ah, so the joms have no counter argument? I guess they are all muscle and no intellect after all. I have traveled the world, friend, and I have learned a few things. Battle is all about intellect and not of brute strength. I would be happy to teach you a thing or two event though it goes against my beliefs”. TinCow drew his sword and took a battle stance. “Show me some of this intellect before it spills to the ground. Privateerkev drew his as well and took his battle stance. TinCow was clearly the bigger man, but Privateerkev seemed more skilled with the blade. TinCow slashed at PK’s ribs and the cut was powerful enough to cut any man open even with leather amour. But PK was agile and danced away from it. PK made his attack and it was a blade master’s show of attack combinations. TinCow tried to block but was less successful. He received several cuts and gashes. TinCow was trying to defend himself as best as he could against PK’s onslaught. TinCow tried to shift the fight into his favour by using his brute strength. He lashed out against PK with a overhand slash from left to right. PK did block it but didn’t see the TinCow’s left fist that followed the sword. PK saw stars as something heavy hit his chin. There was a moment of disorientation before he got his bearings again. This time PK went crazy. The skills he showed were combinations originating from all over the world and TinCow had trouble countering. PK got in a slash against TinCow’s ribcage and a deep cut in this thigh. TinCow was losing and he knew it. PK was hammering his sword against TinCow’s and TinCow found himself with one knee on the ground taking a beating. Suddenly TinCow jerked to the side and PK’s sword hit the ground hard. PK regained his footing fast and twirled to try taking off TinCow’s head. TinCow had expected this and met the blade with his strongest blow. PK’s blade broke in half and TinCow followed with a slash that nearly cut PK in twain.

Darkness surrounded Privateerkev and he found no comfort in it. He saw a light and drifted towards it. Seeing the light filled him with hope. As he entered the light he found peace and was greeted by people he had met in the life. This was a place of comfort and he didn’t miss his mortal guise.

The mighty Thor (Gaius) lay resting against a boulder and his head hurt. The men from the kingdoms had all fallen asleep … well they tried to sleep. Some found it because of exhaustion; others looked up into a night sky that didn’t really fill with stars. Some lights could be seen but that was the exception.
It was hard to gather his thoughts as his head was still ringing from being hit by that enchanted rock.
A chill crept up on him and he didn’t realise the danger until it was too late. He, an Æsir should not feel cold and this could only mean that someone was conjuring black magic in the vicinity. He tried to get up but couldn’t move. He tried to reach out to his hammer and by it throw this spell away, but his hand couldn’t move. A dwarf like being appeared and climbed up on Thor’s chest: “So the mighty Thor and that other so called Æsir decided to off my brother in full view of these mortals. It was not particular nice to stab someone in the back. Unfortunately he was not able to get you before, but I am not as clumsy as he was. The ability to stay hidden and not draw attention is a skill many of us have not yet learned. I will send you home where my brother failed to do so. Rungne was an exeptable loss and will not change what has been put into motion here. Neither you, or that other can do anything to stop us now. Our mission will succeed. Ragnarok will be a reality and you can tell that father of yours when you see him that I will be warming my hands on the burning Yggdrasil. So sayeth Vafþrúðnir.
The dwarf pulled out a vial and poured it into Thor’s throat. The taste was foul and he could sense it had magical attributes.

The world turned and he was no longer in Midgard. The hammer was lost and it would take days before it would return to him.
Damn… outsmarted by Jotun, twice. This was embarrassing.
He filled his lungs with air and roared to the sky. The sound was so terrifying that several members of the wildlife in a few miles radius fell to the ground dead with heart failure.


Killed: (9)

Twilightblade (R1)
Caius (R2)
Rythmic (R3)
Eliit Tuhkur (R4)
shlin28 (R4)
Proletariat (R5)
Kukrikhan (R6)
Fenring (R7)
Gaius Scribonius Curio (R8)

Killed in Holmgang: (7)

makaikhaan (R1)
FactionHeir (R2)
Andres (R3)
woad&fangs (R4)
GeneralHankerchief (R5)
Warmaster Horus (R6)
Privateerkev (R7)

Lynched: (7)

CountArach (R1)
Tratorix (R2)
glyphz (R3)
El Diablo (R4)
Seamus (R5)
Crazed Rabbit (R6)
Sarathos (R7)

WoG: (6)

scottishranger (R3)
TevashSzat (R4)
Quintus.J.Cicero (R4)
Kagemusha (R5)
pevergreen (R5)
Omanes (R5)

Living: (7)

Craterus
discovery1
Husar
Ichigo
LittleGrizzly
Motep
TinCow


Voting will end at 2000 GMT Sunday the 24th of August