Horrible News: Lehman Brothers Bankrupt and Merrill Lynch bought by BAC

[Koga No Goshi]

So your attempting to argue degrees of crookness - Interesting I think your barking up the wrong tree on that aspect - a crook is a crook regardless of the degree. So it seems that your arguement here is exactly the same as mine - they are both crooks.

I can see why Republicans always want to just insist to everyone that all the parties are all equally corrupt. It works in their favor, since by and large, Republican politicians and the GOP are MUCH more in the pockets and in line with the interests of large corporations and the ultra-rich than the Democrats are. So insisting over and over again that they're all equally corrupt and crookish lets the Republicans continue to do what they're doing while insisting it's nothing out of the ordinary, and no worse than their opposition party.

On the list paints a bigger picture then the one your wanting to see, it paints a picture of widespread corruption with the political process that has influence both parties. So it seems your focusing on what influence lobbiest have on the Campaign of McCain where I am focusing on the overall corruption of the system as it relates to both parties. You do realize that in 2001 there was a complaint filed against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for just his issue, sadly I dont know the result of the complaint on that it was done, and it pointed to the corruption that such contributions were doing to the political process

Pointing out that both parties have received money from Freddie and Fannie falls a little flat if you can't show that the Democrats have ceaselessly worked for deregulation of the financial markets just as the Republicans have. There's blame on both sides but to pretend that the blame is equally bipartisan despite the Republicans basing their whole ideology around free market deregulation and the Democrats basing theirs around responsible protection of American workers and accountability together with a robust marketplace, is just like Wall Street privatizing the profits of operating off the books and then publicizing the liabilities and making the taxpayers cough up a bailout. It's a crooked equation.

Then you might want to try being thoughtful on the voting process versus party politics. Care to focus on the corruption that both parties have created? Or do you want to focus on McCain?

Are you a Nader supporter now? Because if you are, I fail to see why you are defending the Republican Party. You're not getting Sasaki's point apparently--- Republicans have always insisted that both parties are corrupt because it creates a general apathy, because low voter turnouts benefit Republicans running for office, and because they are far more corrupt and far more in the pockets of large corporate and elite interests than the Democratic party is, on the whole. Look at who Chevron and Exxon and Wal Mart are giving money to. Look at who has paid Wall Street lobbyists working in their campaign while calling himself a "reformer." As soon as McCain worked "drilling" into his campaign speeches the oil contributors quadrupled the money they were giving him. But I'm sure Obama, with his fancy talk about alternative energy and windfall profits taxes and such, is equally enslaved to big oil lobbyists right? He's just pretending.

Yes yes, all equal same old same old, both sides are just as corrupt nothing to see here, there is no man behind the curtain.