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So are you against judging people who kill other people? What about people who judge?
"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." Jesus never said it's okay to judge people for crimes. He said it was your duty to forgive. But he acknowledged worldly authority and heavenly authority as totally separate. Your flaw here as well as the entire Christian right, and the whole of Sharia Islam, is that they can ever be, or should ever be, one and the same. Jesus did not attempt to overturn all the laws of the land during his life, but nor did he try to add some for "sins not on the books yet."

Judgement is pretty straight forward. Judge not lest ye be judged. I'm open to being judged. I judge myself and like to hear the judgments of others about elements of decency that I am lacking.
Your argument was "I'm not gay so I can judge gay people as much as I want." I would like to see you present that one to your god.

It is stupid not to judge people - we do it everyday and it is healthy and good. Hey, maybe AA sponsors shouldn't judge alchoholics since they were alchoholics themselves once too?
So now you are calling your religion stupid. P.S. there is a difference between making distinction/decision, and judging. I can say blue is different from green. But if I say if you like blue more than green you're vile and should have fewer rights and will go to hell, well, that's different.

What if we just try to help reform the lives of those who sin, including homosexuals? I'm not calling for them to be imprisoned or stoned to death. Maybe you havn't read up enough on it. Read wrtings from Paul. Read about when Jesus flipped those tables in the temple. Or how he came not to destroy the laws (of which one book is entitled "judges") but to fulfill them.
Jesus never said one word about homosexuality, so why it is so high up on the vile 10 most wanted hate list of Christians is beyond me. Probably just becuase most Christians aren't gay and thus it's a sin they can scapegoat as being so "bad" and feel good that they themselves aren't guilty of it, while they go back to being greedy, selfish, gluttonous judgmental capitalists who lie and harm others and covet things.