What is wrong with having a Muslim as president?

**Yoyoma1910** · 10-24-2008, 16:03

Originally Posted by Proletariat

The same ole theme gets a little annoying after awhile, Strike. America is really at it's social progression's height right now and it gets no acknowledgment, in fact, it just gets slammed still by Americans and others for being some racist, xenophobic cesspool.

A decade or so ago there was a raging debate about whether or not homosexuals could even join the military, and the issue was outrageous too many. Just a week or two ago I saw a prominent celebrity come out of the closet and on the morning talk shows openly discussing his lifestyle and his role as a gay parent. 40 years ago black people were drinking out of separate water fountains and now one is steam rolling his way to president.

You are 500 times more likely to run into someone in day to day life who says, 'It's disgusting that some idiots are using 'Obama is a muslim' as a smear!' than you are to actually hear someone saying, 'I just won't vote for Muslim scum for President.' I know it's not a sexy or popular thing to say, and many Americans and many Euros are in denial about it, but America really rocks when it comes to resolving bigoted views quickly.

The Governor of the state of Louisiana is Bobby Jindal, who parents immigrated to the U.S. from India. But, he is a Catholic convert.

To those arguing about NAZIs, I would point out that Bavaria, the birth place of this group, is vehemently Catholic. As are Italy which had fascist government and Spain, which had a semi-fascist government.

**drone** · 10-24-2008, 16:24

If the muslim in question is a Freemason, he's good to go!

**rvg** · 10-24-2008, 16:40

Originally Posted by drone

If the muslim in question is a Freemason, he's good to go!

Let's forget about muslims for a moment here. What if the guy is a Scientologist? Or a Satanist.

**LittleGrizzly** · 10-24-2008, 17:18

Let's forget about muslims for a moment here. What if the guy is a Scientologist? Or a Satanist.

The satanist.. fine aslong as he doesn't sacrifice young virgins or anything creepy, the scientologist would have a hell of a job convincing me his religion wouldn't affect his work (though if he did, sure)

**Louis VI the Fat** · 10-24-2008, 18:35

Originally Posted by rvg

Let's forget about muslims for a moment here. What if the guy is a Scientologist? Or a Satanist.

Aye, that is the important point for me as well. Surely, a scientologist president would be unthinkable? Never mind a cult that ritually sacrifices children.

Which means that there is a hierarchy of religions thought fit to supply a president from their ranks. Religious views do matter. Especially in the US, where there is little separation of church and state. The best you can hope for in America, is that your cult of choice will be accepted as mainstream, and hence embraced under the gentle protective wings of 'freedom of religion'. This deceptive tool that neither guarantees freedom of religion nor of unreligion - but that serves to protect and to maintain the status of the larger cults at the expense of the smaller and the nonbelievers.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 10-24-2008, 18:18

Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

To those arguing about NAZIs, I would point out that Bavaria, the birth place of this group, is vehemently Catholic. As are Italy which had fascist government and Spain, which had a semi-fascist government.

Poland and France are also heavily Catholic, and Pope Pius XII did what he could to help the victims of Nazi Germany. This is, of course, presuming that the Catholic faith was even a large part in the formation of the fascist ideology and that Catholics loved fascism, though Catholic Spain fought a massive civil war and fascists in Germany received less than half of the popular vote in 1933. So congratulations, you've managed to prove absolutely nothing.

**Incongruous** · 10-25-2008, 05:45

Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

To those arguing about NAZIs, I would point out that Bavaria, the birth place of this group, is vehemently Catholic. As are Italy which had fascist government and Spain, which had a semi-fascist government.

Uhuh, you think the Catholic peasants of Spain should have gone along with the vehemently anti-Catholic Communists instead? Yeah they really sorted Russia out, what a load...

It was not a much of choice was it? Fascists or Communists?
Care to start up another thread about the civil war in Spain? I would be glad to discuss the Catholocism of Franco with you