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    Default Re: An attack on secularism?

    'fraid so:
    That is a reading miscomprehension on your part. If you see my post, I made three references to yours, the Anti-H one and the "Help the Needy" one.

    Let's change that order:
    The Anti-H one, "Help the Needy" and PVC's.

    It is still exactly the same, except out of order of how I made the statements.

    It is part of the "Rule of Three" in the English language: "I think PVC is charming, handsome and witty". It doesn't mean "charming handsome and witty".

    Give me an alternative rationalisation - otherwise I submit your morality runs with a sort of "post Christian" inertia, or rather that your morality is based on metaphysical assumptions which are essentially Christian, but with the figure of God surgically removed. If this is so you have a massive structural whole in your philosophy.
    Nope. Why does not killing another person have to do with a range of named or unamed dieties? Was does treating another brother or sister with respect have anything to do with a deity? There is no reason for God to be there. God is just slapped on like a sticker. God even spoke about owning slaves, my morality rejects slavery.

    Why does treating others like I want to be treated and that we are all as humans equal, have anything to do with any high power? I don't want to be murdered, so does the person next to be, so lets not murder. I want to say what is true, so does the person next to me, so lets speak the truth. It is all things based on freedom and liberty. To be able what you want to do, within a shared sense of order and social function.

    It is the basics of ethics. God doesn't even need a place there.

    So, I oppose most violently your charactarisation of my most insoluable beliefs as "fluff".
    God has decreed that Pork is an unclean food and should not be eaten.

    The argument for this back in the 'day' was as Cute Wolf said in the otherthread about pigs having a lot of parasites, spoils easy and was generally eaten quite raw in those days, which complicated matters.

    So in the spirit of things:

    God says Pork is Bad = Fluff
    A reasonable and sound argument against the eating of pork in a desert = Argument
    Last edited by Beskar; 08-20-2010 at 18:31.
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