Askthepizzaguy Mafia [Concluded]

[Romanic]

Diana is obviously mafia scum.



That's exactly the reason they went all out against each other - so the surviving mafia would get a round of relief. And going at each other from the beginning was necessary. Pulling that stunt any later makes it much more revealing.

I know this move, I've seen it in half of the mafia games I've hosted.

Look at how she accused split and Arpeg together last round. This round, however, she doesn't push anymore against split and jumps on double A the minute you provide her an excuse to. Note that she didn't vote for anyone until you provided the excuse.

She's the last mafia.

CR

This is not a typical mafia game. Giving some thought about the game is enough to realize that bussing your partner is not an automatic win. We might still have 2 lynches after a successful protection. The mafia should have made the same conclusion and waited to see how the votes were going before voting for each other.

And after what happened yesterday, it's not strange at all that Diana is not pushing for Split. He's pretty much a confirmed townie now.

[Double A]

So, she wagers all in, encouraging Split along, and then she'll wait till the last minute to decrease her wager. A good plan, because she takes out both me and split, with only civplayah left alive, who she then night kills.

[Double A]

wager 30: Diana - it wouldn't be valid in my last post

The reason for my "small" bet is she could just wager 41 of her large amount of credits and still kill me in the day. I prefer to have some left over just in case, but I'm confident enough that she is the last mafioso. I just hope split and civ make the right decision.

[Romanic]

Could be civplayah. Did we forget what happened on Day 2?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Post #157, Beskar lays a trap:

Mafia.

Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit

Post #162: civplayah is hooked:

So I wouldn't lose my money...

But, now that Crazed Rabbit is in the lead...

fold
wager 20: Crazed Rabbit

17h12 post #162 -> civplayah voted for CR.
17h17 post #163 -> Romanic points how civplayah look scummy.
17h26 post #164 -> Beskar points how civplayah is scummy, and votes for him.

Sasaki 90, Seon 28, civplayah 26, Beskar 25, CR 20, Arpeg 19, Split 5

17h27 post #165 -> CR votes for civplayah.

Sasaki 90, civplayah 36, Seon 28, CR 20, Arpeg 19, Beskar 10, Split 5

17h36 post #166 -> Diana votes for civplayah.

Sasaki 90, civplayah 46, Seon 25, CR 20, Arpeg 19, Beskar 10, Split 5

17h51 post #170 -> Double A votes for civplayah.

Sasaki 90, civplayah 71, Seon 25, CR 20, Arpeg 19, Beskar 10, Split 5

02h07 post #171 -> Sasaki votes for Seon.

Seon 105, Sasaki 90, civplayah 71, CR 20, Arpeg 19, Beskar 10, Split 5

02h56 post #174 -> Skooma votes for Seon.

Seon 195, Sasaki 90, civplayah 71, CR 20, Beskar 10, Split 5

04h48 post #175 -> Seon votes for Sasaki.

Seon 195, Sasaki 180, civplayah 71, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 9, Split 5

07h07 post #179 -> Romanic votes for Seon.

Seon 196, Sasaki 180, civplayah 71, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

07h45 post #180 -> Beskar votes for Seon.

Seon 197, Sasaki 180, civplayah 45, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

08h30 post #182 -> Seon votes for civplayah.

Seon 197, civplayah 144, Sasaki 90, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

09h09 post #185 -> Pinman votes for Seon.

Seon 198, civplayah 144, Sasaki 90, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

10h45 post #188 -> Greyblades votes for Seon.

Seon 203, civplayah 144, Sasaki 90, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

11h30 post #194 -> Sasaki votes for civplayah.

civplayah 145, Seon 123, Sasaki 90, CR 20, Beskar 10, Arpeg 8, Split 5

11h41 post #196: Then civplayah posts this:

Frankly, I am aware I am playing this game quite cluelessly. It's a new kind of game that I'm not familiar with, but you can lynch me if you think I'm scummy. That'll just bring the town down. I have no defense, since I'm a townie...

The timing is interesting! It's been more than 18 hours since Beskar voted for civplayah first and a bandwagon developed, but he was never ahead of the tally.Civplayah did not make any post in these 18 hours, however he posted 11 minutes after Sasaki put him in the lead, and it's not even obvious that he's ahead because Sasaki fold his bet on Seon and voted 1 on civplayah. To know the score within 10 minutes, someone would need to be following the game.

However civplayah says he's "playing this game quite cluelessly", meaning he's not actually following it. Clueless enough to make a vote on Crazed Rabbit who helped lynch a known mafia (Jolt) but showing up to defend himself within 15 minutes after he's put in the lead, when it's not even obvious that he's in the lead.

I think we need to lynch civplayah.

***

Since Diana and civplayah are our 2 best suspects, Diana should suicide lynch civplayah.

If Split can be around at the deadline, he should be able to prevent Diana from saving herself, and if it happens, he can lynch her with his chip power alone.

[civplayah]

By 'playing this game quite cluelessly', I meant that it was a new form of gameplay and I was unaware of the fact that I was acting scummy. Honestly, I never knew I was ahead- I just knew there was a bandwagon on me and I didn't need to be lynched. And I still don't, because that would mean a loss for the town. And I really wanna win this.

While you do make a good point, the timing is pure coincidence.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This is not a typical mafia game. Giving some thought about the game is enough to realize that bussing your partner is not an automatic win. We might still have 2 lynches after a successful protection. The mafia should have made the same conclusion and waited to see how the votes were going before voting for each other.

And after what happened yesterday, it's not strange at all that Diana is not pushing for Split. He's pretty much a confirmed townie now.

The proof that they were bussing is that when you read it you can see that it's fake.

Arpeg was going to be the lynch target that day, remember? Both you and I said he was guilty the night before. "keep digging" you said.

[Crazed Rabbit]

This is not a typical mafia game. Giving some thought about the game is enough to realize that bussing your partner is not an automatic win. We might still have 2 lynches after a successful protection. The mafia should have made the same conclusion and waited to see how the votes were going before voting for each other.

In the game I hosted the mafia was even further from an automatic win than a mere two lynches.

You base your defense of Diana on the fact that the mafia should have waited - but that is the wrong play for the mafia. When pulling a gambit like this, you can't wait to see how the votes fall - you have to act first, otherwise it will ring hollow.

FFS, do not waste chips on anyone but Diana. Do not bring up other lynch targets or suggest Diana suicide lynch herself. She won't and the others just distract from lynching Diana.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Basically it's all up to split. ~3 hours to deadline?

[Romanic]

By 'playing this game quite cluelessly', I meant that it was a new form of gameplay and I was unaware of the fact that I was acting scummy. Honestly, I never knew I was ahead- I just knew there was a bandwagon on me and I didn't need to be lynched. And I still don't, because that would mean a loss for the town. And I really wanna win this.

While you do make a good point, the timing is pure coincidence.

You are defending yourself, but you are not voting. What are you waiting for? That's not very helpful for a townie who wants to win. Looks like you are delaying your vote for a reason.

Of course a mafia wouldn't need to vote in this scenario. Diana is suiciding to lynch Double A and you get an automatic win.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Diana will be here in time for deadline, no doubt. Wonder why this deadline is at 6 pm? Have any of the others been this late?

She was here for the last deadline anyway.

Our only chance is for split to show up and switch to diana.

[Romanic]

At least the last deadline was at 6 PM EST, maybe more.

[Askthepizzaguy]

At least the last deadline was at 6 PM EST, maybe more.

Deadline is in 17 minutes.

I pushed back the deadline 6 hours for a couple phases because of one writeup being late and I didn't want to deny day phase discussion time to the players.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm.

[Jolt]

hmm.

Important part comes between 0:55 and 1:02

[Sasaki Kojiro]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Deadline has passed. Writeup commencing.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Important part comes between 0:55 and 1:02

You're the middle one, right?

[civplayah]

and you get an automatic win.

I won't get a win from this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 8th, 1983.



End of Day Six



Michael was in the Manager's office counting up his money.

Michael: Well, they came close.... I nearly have all the money I'm owed. But it's not quite enough...

Meanwhile, Diana Abnoba sat at the head of the table, dealing to everyone.

Diana Abnoba: Six card draw, in honor of our sixth hand together. Deuces and aces are wild. The custom rules are, you must place an ante to get your cards, and once you are dealt 6 cards you may bet, trade in between zero and four cards, and then make a final bet. Highest five-card hand wins. Ties will be broken by the highest sixth card, beating that is a six card straight, beating that is a six card flush, and beating everything is six of a kind. Minimum bet is 1,000 dollars, and there is no maximum bet.

A few of the other patrons murmured at the choice of game, as it was a rather obscure choice. Five-card draw was the more standard variant. The large number of wild cards was also unusual. The additional sixth card also seemed confusing.

civplayah: Uh.... I guess I'm in for one.

Double A: Me too. Here's my ante.

Splitpersonality: And bob's your uncle. I'm in for one.

Diana tossed in her ante and dealt the cards.

civplayah: Umm.... I think I'll check.

Double A: Fair enough. No bet here either.

Splitpersonality: Well, I'd love to bet high and take all your money, fellas, but seeing as that would just scare you off.... no bet.

Diana Abnoba: All right. I'll check as well. How many cards do you want, gentlemen?

civplayah: Four, please.

Double A: Two, please.

Splitpersonality: One, if you would.

Diana Abnoba: And two for me.

civplayah: Oh MAN..... forget this. I am done! I fold.

Double A: I'll open with $30,000

Splitpersonality: I'll raise you $57,000, if you don't mind.

Diana Abnoba: Uh huh.... I'll call. Double A?

Double A: I'm thinking, I'm thinking..... fine, I'll just go all in, since you guys have outbid me and I don't have much left. What do I have to lose.

Diana Abnoba: Heh, right.... okay, what do you have, boys?

Splitpersonality: I have five clubs and the deuce of spades. That makes a six-card flush, under your rules.

Diana Abnoba: *whistles in amazement*

Double A: Okay, that's pretty good. Two aces, two jacks, and seven for my high card. That makes four of a kind!

Splitpersonality: Wait, do I win? I have a six-card flush, isn't that better than four of a kind?

Double A: I have no idea. Diana?

Diana Abnoba: Highest five-card hand wins. The sixth card is only for tie-breakers. In a tie, your six-card flush would beat a five-card flush with a higher sixth card, because it completes the flush. So in this case, four of a kind beats the six-card flush.

Splitpersonality: .....well that stinks. Who came up with these insane rules?

Diana Abnoba: Wouldn't you like to know?

Double A: Alright, Diana, it's just you and me. Show me your cards!

Diana Abnoba:

Splitpersonality: uh oh....

Diana Abnoba: But of course, gentlemen. Like any naughty boys, you want to see the goods. And I've certainly got the goods this time. Read them and weep:

Sure enough, Diana's hand contained three wild cards... and the queen of hearts, spades, and diamonds.

civplayah: Cheating. It has to be.

Diana Abnoba: I'll just be taking my chips now, thank you, and paying Michael the money I owe him. It looks like you guys lose. Now who's the queen of diamonds?

Double A: This game was rigged. You know it and we know it.

Diana Abnoba: Yeah, where's your proof? Got any proof? I don't see any proof! Prove it, bucko.

Splitpersonality: I'd like my money back, please.... just one more hand, and I'd be able to pay back Michael.

Double A: Yeah, Diana, don't cheat us out of our cash!

Diana Abnoba: Yeah if you thought the game was rigged you shouldn't have played the game. Okay, Michael, it's over. The deadbeats are dead broke!

Michael Valerio heard Diana's voice from where he was sitting in the Manager's office. He grabbed his Tommy gun and came out with a grim expression on his face.

civplayah: No, Michael, I tried to get you the money! I tried! I really tried!!!

*Michael pointed the Tommy Gun at civplayah, who was standing there dumbfounded, and opened fire, shooting him directly in the chest, puncturing his heart.*

Splitpersonality dropped to his knees and begged Mike for another chance.

Splitpersonality: I'll pay you back! I'll pay you back!

*Michael pointed the Tommy Gun at Splitpersonality, and opened fire, shooting him directly in the head, dropping him to the floor. His hat rolled off of his head.*

Double A didn't even bother to beg, so he ran for the exit.

*Michael pointed the Tommy Gun at Double A, and opened fire, shooting him directly in the back, filling his body with bullets, making his internal organs look like swiss cheese.*

Diana Abnoba: Here's your money, Michael.

Michael Valerio: You have done this family a great service, my "son".....

Diana Abnoba: Heh.... they never even found out about Salvatore "Sal" Valerio, did they?

Michael Valerio: Nope.... I had him whacked about a week and a half ago for stealing from the cash drawer. Even my other sons had no idea. Listen, Sally, I loved the whole Dr. Evil thing. Where did you get that mask, from a costume shop?

Diana Abnoba: Oh Michael, I'm not going to tell you all my secrets, now. Not for free anyway. By the way, who was that cashier girl?

Michael Valerio: She's nobody. Honest.

Diana Abnoba: Do me a favor, Michael. Dump the broad, and come meet me for dinner. I hope you like Italian...

Michael Valerio: Doesn't everybody?

Michael switched the light off, leaving the mess of bloody bodies behind. Valerio and Abnoba left the Papa Gino's pizzeria and went out for a well-deserved romantic dinner for two.




~Fin~

Slices remaining: (1/17)

Diana Abnoba- Salvatore "Sally" Valerio





Sleeping with the fishes: (16/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Seon- Professional gambler
Skooma Addict- Professional gambler
Johnhughthom- Professional gambler
Romanic- Professional gambler
Pinman- Professional gambler
Sasaki Kojiro- Professional gambler
Beskar- Professional gambler
Greyblades- Professional gambler
Crazed Rabbit- Professional gambler
ArpeggiateTHIS- Vincenzo "Vinnie" Valerio (MAFIA)
Cultured Drizzt Fan- Professional gambler
civplayah- Professional gambler
Double A- Professional gambler
Splitpersonality- Professional gambler

NOTICE:

Because Double A was innocent, Splitpersonality did not have enough money to protect himself. If civplayah protected Splitpersonality, it would have cost 40 credits, and Diana Abnoba still would have had enough money left over to defeat the other two simply by outbetting them.

But don't check my math on that.

[Beskar]

Hah, so much for that argument.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 8th, 1983.



End of Day Six



Michael was in the Manager's office counting up his money.

Michael: Well, they came close.... I nearly have all the money I'm owed. But it's not quite enough...

Meanwhile, Diana Abnoba sat at the head of the table, dealing to everyone.

Diana Abnoba: Six card draw, in honor of our sixth hand together. Deuces and aces are wild. The custom rules are, you must place an ante to get your cards, and once you are dealt 6 cards you may bet, trade in between zero and four cards, and then make a final bet. Highest five-card hand wins. Ties will be broken by the highest sixth card, beating that is a six card straight, beating that is a six card flush, and beating everything is six of a kind. Minimum bet is 1,000 dollars, and there is no maximum bet.

A few of the other patrons murmured at the choice of game, as it was a rather obscure choice. Five-card draw was the more standard variant. The large number of wild cards was also unusual. The additional sixth card also seemed confusing.

civplayah: Uh.... I guess I'm in for one.

Double A: Me too. Here's my ante.

Splitpersonality: And bob's your uncle. I'm in for one.

Diana tossed in her ante and dealt the cards.

civplayah: Umm.... I think I'll check.

Double A: Fair enough. No bet here either.

Splitpersonality: Well, I'd love to bet high and take all your money, fellas, but seeing as that would just scare you off.... no bet.

Diana Abnoba: All right. I'll check as well. How many cards do you want, gentlemen?

civplayah: Four, please.

Double A: Two, please.

Splitpersonality: One, if you would.

Diana Abnoba: And two for me.

civplayah: Oh MAN..... forget this. I am done! I fold.

Double A: I'll open with $30,000

Splitpersonality: I'll raise you $57,000, if you don't mind.

Diana Abnoba: Uh huh.... I'll call. Double A?

Double A: I'm thinking, I'm thinking..... fine, I'll just go all in, since you guys have outbid me and I don't have much left. What do I have to lose.

Diana Abnoba: Heh, right.... okay, what do you have, boys?

Splitpersonality: I have five clubs and the deuce of spades. That makes a six-card flush, under your rules.

Diana Abnoba: *whistles in amazement*

Double A: Okay, that's pretty good. Two aces, two jacks, and seven for my high card. That makes four of a kind!

Splitpersonality: Wait, do I win? I have a six-card flush, isn't that better than four of a kind?

Double A: I have no idea. Diana?

Diana Abnoba: Highest five-card hand wins. The sixth card is only for tie-breakers. In a tie, your six-card flush would beat a five-card flush with a higher sixth card, because it completes the flush. So in this case, four of a kind beats the six-card flush.

Splitpersonality: .....well that stinks. Who came up with these insane rules?

Diana Abnoba: Wouldn't you like to know?

Double A: Alright, Diana, it's just you and me. Show me your cards!

Diana Abnoba:

Splitpersonality: uh oh....

Diana Abnoba: But of course, gentlemen. Like any naughty boys, you want to see the goods. And I've certainly got the goods this time. Read them and weep:

Sure enough, Diana's hand contained three wild cards... and the queen of hearts, spades, and diamonds.

civplayah: Cheating. It has to be.

Diana Abnoba: I'll just be taking my chips now, thank you, and paying Michael the money I owe him. It looks like you guys lose. Now who's the queen of diamonds?

Double A: This.... this is IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Diana Abnoba: Yeah, where's your proof? Got any proof? I don't see any proof! Prove it, bucko.

Double A: Let's drop this whole pretense right now. You and Split actually think I am Salvatore Valerio, don't deny it. You two cheated me out of my money, to get the Valerio family back for cheating you. You stacked the deck!

Diana Abnoba: Hah! I can't believe you let ME deal the cards! I'm a professional gambler, you dope!

Splitpersonality: That was absolutely beautiful.

Diana Abnoba: Hey, you're the one who gave me the idea. Don't even deny it.

civplayah: What's going on?

Splitpersonality: We just cheated Sal Valerio out of the money he cheated us out of!!!

civplayah: You mean.... I can pay Michael back?

Double A: This is unfair!

Diana Abnoba: It's over, Valerio! We cheated you out of that money.... fair and square.

Michael Valerio heard Diana's voice from where he was sitting in the Manager's office. He grabbed his Tommy gun and game out with a grim expression on his face.

Double A: No, father, I tried to get you the money! I tried! I really tried!!!

Michael: No son of mine is a failure. If he's a failure, then he's not my son.

*Michael pointed the Tommy Gun at Double A, who was standing there dumbfounded, and opened fire, shooting him directly in the chest, puncturing his heart.*

Diana Abnoba: Here's your money, Michael.

Michael Valerio: Very impressive. How would you three like to work for the Valerio crime family? You obviously have a knack for this mafia business.

civplayah: Possibly.... I could certainly use the money.

Diana Abnoba: Heh, I'll certainly consider your offer, Mikey. Are we free to go?

Michael Valerio: What, you don't wanna stay and play one more hand? I'll go double or nothing, how's that?

Diana Abnoba: Oh Michael, I'm not falling for that. Nice try though.

Michael Valerio: Hey, I gotta be me. All right, you paid up, and you're free to leave.

Michael turns to pick up his piles of cash and chips from the table. That's when Splitpersonality stood up, and opened up his trenchcoat, revealing a pair of Uzi submachine guns.

Diana Abnoba: Do me a favor, Michael. Say hi to the family for me.

Michael Valerio: Oh,

Splitpersonality aimed the Uzi submachine guns at Michael Valerio, and opened fire. Michael Valerio screamed in pain as his body was riddled with bullets, and he fell to the floor. Bloody cash scattered everywhere, and stacks of chips fell to the floor. The Valerio crime family was no more.

civplayah: What the heck just happened?

Diana Abnoba: You didn't really think we were going to let him keep our money, did you?

Splitpersonality: He was a ruthless, conniving criminal. He got what he deserved.

civplayah: Do you mean, I can use this money for my mother's operation?

Diana Abnoba: it's all yours. You can even have a third of whatever was in his safe. We'll split it with you.

Splitpersonality: Hey, do you guys want to go out for dinner, now that this is all over?

civplayah: Sure. How about Italian?

Diana Abnoba: Oh, I love Italian.

Splitpersonality: Doesn't everybody?

~Fin~

Slices remaining: (3/17)

civplayah- Professional gambler
Diana Abnoba- Professional gambler
Splitpersonality- Professional gambler


Sleeping with the fishes: (14/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Seon- Professional gambler
Skooma Addict- Professional gambler
Johnhughthom- Professional gambler
Romanic- Professional gambler
Pinman- Professional gambler
Sasaki Kojiro- Professional gambler
Beskar- Professional gambler
Greyblades- Professional gambler
Crazed Rabbit- Professional gambler
ArpeggiateTHIS- Vincenzo "Vinnie" Valerio (MAFIA)
Cultured Drizzt Fan- Professional gambler
Double A- Salvatore "Sal" Valerio (MAFIA)

NOTICE:

I have fun with you. Innocent victory. This is the real ending.

Congratulations!

[Jolt]

Told you Diana used that argument against me when she did it herself.

*highfives!*

First Mafia win for me y'all! :D

EDIT: OMG. ATPG ninja'd me by one second. :O

Gg guys.

In the end we were beaten by the clock. :(

Our QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/KZWcQFAVSDEH3

[Askthepizzaguy]

EDIT: OMG. ATPG ninja'd me by one second. :O

I'm the fastest typist in the west. Pew pew pew! Pew pew pew!

[Romanic]

We win!!!

Good job Town!

Good game everyone, and thank you ATPG for hosting this game!

[Skooma Addict]

Well done Diana and Split.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

aaaah, lurkers remain immune to gut reads. Good game, naming AA as your top was a great ploy.

[Romanic]

I won't get a win from this.

You did get a win!

Man, how can the timing case I had against you be happenstance? 18 hours without a post and you show up to defend yourself 10 minutes after Sasaki put you ahead. I swear that I won't make a timing case for a long while, it's always wrong. I'll stick with scumtells and voting records.

Good thing Diana and Split didn't come back in time to listen to my stupid case.

****

ATPG: Was it an automatic win for the mafia if there was only two players left? I had a quick debate with Skooma about this. Could the remaining townie protect himself and win on the next turn if he had more credit than the mafia?

[Splitpersonality]

I'm glad I trusted you diana

[Crazed Rabbit]

Well, good thing you didn't listen to me.

Good job town!

CR

[Secura]

Someone who can interpret the game, but isn't too hot.

What does that mean?