Surprisingly Good and Bad Units 1.2 Edition

**seienchin** · 09-08-2010, 10:37

So yeah they are usefull in multiplayer, but they are useless in a campain game. We should make a difference there. ;)
And their usefullness in multiplayer is not because of their ability, but just because they are the cheapest unit in the game.

**Ca Putt** · 09-08-2010, 12:14

mostly useless in campaign because they share their AOR with Celtic slingers, their germanic brothers(with almost identical stats) have a much more interesting AoR as they are the only "long" ranged unit the Sweboz can recruit early on and thus is very usefull in sieges and battles outside the forest in general.
crappy maybe but well even a crappy archer is usefull when fighting barechested guys ;)
and with their spears they are just strong enough to join the final rumble with all other troops depleted and exhausted. especially as they'll probably have a lot o chevrons

**Burebista** · 09-08-2010, 12:40

Originally Posted by seienchin

And their usefullness in multiplayer is not because of their ability, but just because they are the cheapest unit in the game.

True , but only half. They are useful because they are "very hardy" and have a spear with decent lethality compared to rest of archers with 0.04 .

**athanaric** · 09-08-2010, 14:52

Originally Posted by seienchin

So yeah they are usefull in multiplayer, but they are useless in a campain game. We should make a difference there. ;)

Not true. I use them in campaign, and they are quite useful... if you know how to use them. Plus the Casse version looks very neat.

And their usefullness in multiplayer is not because of their ability, but just because they are the cheapest unit in the game.

Not true. Accensi are cheaper.

**Olaf The Great** · 09-08-2010, 19:12

A unit doesn't have to be good to be suprisingly good. Sotaroas are really quite horrible, but they're SUPRISINGLY good.

**Burebista** · 09-08-2010, 19:22

Here's another. Iberi curisi .

Can anyone guess why i think this unit is sometimes extremely good?

**Arjos** · 09-08-2010, 19:47

Originally Posted by Burebista

Here's another. Iberi curisi .

Can anyone guess why i think this unit is sometimes extremely good?

Hiding? ^^

And for good unit I'll say the Appea Gaedotos (phalanx with guard on and "hellraiser" with its axe :p)

**Burebista** · 09-08-2010, 20:18

Originally Posted by Arjos

Hiding? ^^

And for good unit I'll say the Appea Gaedotos (phalanx with guard on and "hellraiser" with its axe :p)

Yep..hiding in grass...i loled so hard first time i saw it:)

Also , love the Appea too.They are great , especially for their cost and stamina

**GenosseGeneral** · 09-08-2010, 20:42

Here's another. Iberi curisi .

Can anyone guess why i think this unit is sometimes extremely good?

Because they are affordable, because they have very good stamina, can easily fight other medium cav (like equites romani). They can do simply everything, they can chase, fight cav, or even charge.

**panten** · 09-08-2010, 22:26

Two units i learned to love during my ongoing AS campaign:

Eastern Axemen: They are simply awesome, they win the important fights for me and have had more than their fair share in killing Pahlavian family members.
Of course they die like flies if put directly against those arrow railguns, but supported by Pantodapoi and the light HA/archers I can recruit, they kill everything Pahlava throws at me. Next to the phalangitai pantodapoi and Persian archers they are the most valuable units in my garrisons and field armies in the East.

Podromoi: I love that cavalry. It's perfect for my style of fighting: pinning down the enemy and than go for aggressive and repeated charges on the flanks and the rear. They also kill cavalry effective enough and have a great stamina recovery. Has been one of the key units when fighting the Ptolemaioi.