Is Sarkosy wrong to try and repatriate the Roma, and should we be sympathetic of Papy

[Meneldil]

Meh, probably I should think the same about southern white thrash, you know.

I'm tempted to say the reason why Southern France is plagued by unemployement, poverty and subsequently, macho-male-useless-white-trashes and pregant teens is because of the huge percentage of north-african population here. The second most visited website in my Region (Languedoc-Roussillon) is la CAF (behind chatroulette). Yep, that's how sad it is.

We attract all the trash of France, thanks to the sun, the beaches and Georges Frêche Imperator the First, who provides social housing to all kind of useless people. Thank me for taking care of your homeless punks. It's the garbage bin of the country.

[Tristuskhan]

I'm tempted to say the reason why Southern France is plagued by unemployement, poverty and subsequently, macho-male-useless-white-trashes and pregant teens is because of the huge percentage of north-african population here.

I understand you're upset but you'll need evidence about that. I've lived in Languedoc-Roussillon, I saw the unemployment, poverty et al. It was in Northern Lozère. Hard to blame it on North Africans up there, isn't it?

The second most visited website in my Region (Languedoc-Roussillon) is la CAF (behind chatroulette). Yep, that's how sad it is.

Sad, of course, but I'd like to figure how it is in other regions. My bet would be the difference is chatroulette, that fits so well to the natural superficiality of southern french people, but who knows?

We attract all the trash of France, thanks to the sun, the beaches and Georges Frêche Imperator the First, who provides social housing to all kind of useless people.

Same could be said about Brittany, apart from Big G(eorges Frêche), and now Brittany's north africans become hard-working good-tempered dominated-by-their-wives drunkards and pot-smokers as any Breton is... so I say blame it on the locals.

Thank me for taking care of your homeless punks.

And thank me for working and paying taxes for you all lazy sods...

It's the garbage bin of the country.

Love it or leave it, my advice.

[Meneldil]

I understand you're upset but you'll need evidence about that. I've lived in Languedoc-Roussillon, I saw the unemployment, poverty et al. It was in Northern Lozère. Hard to blame it on North Africans up there, isn't it?

I lived in Aurillac (Cantal) for 5 monthes. Cantal is - AFAIK - the second or third poorest departement in France. As soon as you leave downtown, the city is only made of social housing. Yet, even though I've seen some sad things (such as lot of homeless bums, etc.), I've never encountered the level of violence you can witness everyday in Montpellier. The only time I saw someone behaving like an ass (calling a girl "slut" in the middle of the street), it was a... a group of young arabs.
Even during the Festival du Théâtre de Rue, which attracts all the punks of France, you can still walk around the city at night without being annoyed every five minutes.

Sad, of course, but I'd like to figure how it is in other regions. My bet would be the difference is chatroulette, that fits so well to the natural superficiality of southern french people, but who knows?

As far as I know, Languedoc-Roussillon is the only region where La Caf was more visited than the Pôle Emploi. I'll look for the study again if you wish, but the results were published in the Midi Libre when I worked there this summer.

Same could be said about Brittany, apart from Big G(eorges Frêche), and now Brittany's north africans become hard-working good-tempered dominated-by-their-wives drunkards and pot-smokers as any Breton is... so I say blame it on the locals.

Good for you then. Though honestly, everytime I go to Brittany, I rarely see any north-african. There are some in Nantes and Rennes, but the further west you go, the less of them you meet. The situation doesn't really compare to Montpellier, Nîmes or Béziers, where north-africans make up between 30% and 40% of the population. It is much easier to assimilate a dozen of migrants than ten thousands of them.

And thank me for working and paying taxes for you all lazy sods...Love it or leave it, my advice.

I work and pay my taxes too, and I indeed don't plan on staying in the South. As for your paternalistic tone toward the South, that's kind of the Hôpital qui se fout de la charité, as Brittany has been regarded as one of the most backward part of France until not too long ago. Now it has this whole aura of coolness to it, but things havn't always been that way.

[Tristuskhan]

I work and pay my taxes too, and I indeed don't plan on staying in the South. As for your paternalistic tone toward the South, that's kind of the Hôpital qui se fout de la charité, as Brittany has been regarded as one of the most backward part of France until not too long ago. Now it has this whole aura of coolness to it, but things havn't always been that way.

Paternalistic, uh? There you got it... It's all a matter of where you draw the line between "them" and "us". Seen from brittany or wherever people still work a bit, all the south can be pictured as a whole bunch of useless idiots. Rightously shocking for you and many others? Indeed. But not more shocking than assimilating anyone of north-african (or how do you say down there? Boukaques? Gris? 'gnoules?) ascent to some scum like you do. Using your logics, I could say that since YOU were assimilated by "them", well you're now part of "them" and so should be considered like you consider "them".
Sorry, I was upset by the way you're puting every what? Let's say "arab", in the same basket. Insulting many people I know, including my father-in-law and many friends of mine. So I got to use your logics.

Ps: oh, and if you think there are no immigrants in western Brittany just have a walk in: Quartier Balzac in Saint Brieuc (where I'm from), Lanbezellec in Brest or Kervenanec in Lorient. Maybe you'll change your mind a bit.

[Fragony]

There are problems with immigrants and north-africans in particular, much more likely to be criminal and leech on tax, simply the reality, or isn't it. Had Mo and Tafik for dinner yesterday, Mo is Palistinian and Tafik is from Marocco, they tirelessly insist I got it all wrong and that I am an idiot, but at least they recognise that problem.

[Furunculus]

roflmao -

"Nicolas Sarkozy has sparked a bitter EU row by suggesting that the European Commissioner who compared his Roma policy to Nazi deportations should offer to host expelled gipsies in her native country of Luxembourg."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...uxembourg.html

quite right sarko!

[InsaneApache]

LOL indeed.

For those who think the Roma are being unfairly treated, I say this. If you're that bothered open up your house to them and let them live in your back garden and see how long you keep your liberal attitudes.

Most on here know that I'm quite socially liberal but there are limits. I've had many dealings with 'travellers' and it's cost me a pretty penny or two. Behaviour such as begging, stealing and pickpocketing are not acceptable or desirable. Remember this, stealing destroys wealth.