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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Furunculus talks about how "low income people" are unable to understand the lives of "spoiled students", yet he refers to the luxury the royal family lives in as "peanuts"....
    compared to the cost of other heads of state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Because others can do a better job. It should be the best person for the job, not because of who your parents are. I rather have some one who is good at the job than some one who only got it because their mother is the Queen.
    define how, and provide a methodology that demonstrates how nations with presidents get better value for money and/or greater effect than britain's constitutional monarchy.............

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Indeed.

    If it is as the monarchists say, that the current regent is in fact the best qualified, then things will remain the same, as they'd win the election. The only way Elizabeth(or Victoria or whatever you call your queen these days) would be booted as head of state should there be an election, is if the public finds another candidate better suited to the job.

    This way you can have your cake and eat it too: you'll both get your Queen as head of state and it will be because the public deems her the best qualified person for the job!

    But as most monarchists reject this notion, it must be because they know that the current inbreds in power are rubbish.
    as said earlier; having faith that change for the purpose of being 'progressive' is by definition a good thing, is not a belief system that i adhere to.

    demonstrate unambiguously that the alternative would be better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Exactly, the current monarch isn't that bad. This is why I advocate reforming the system so when she dies naturally or retires, the new system then comes into effect. No point having a whole upheaval, as there is no pressing concerns to bring it in ASAP.

    If Charles is really the best, he could run for the position as the first President of Great Britain. I have no issues with them lifting the ban on royals running for government (since they would no longer be royals).
    you advocate that, fair enough, show me a referendum where the majority vote in favour of the change and i will happily consent............

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Exactly, I have advocated previously just total removal. All you need to do is draw up a new constitution and have the High Court act like a Supreme Court (which it basically is) to rule on constitutional matters.
    fine, if that's how we want to run things....................... *waits patiently to the sound of chirping crickets*
    Last edited by Furunculus; 12-11-2010 at 23:45.
    Furunculus Maneuver: Adopt a highly logical position on a controversial subject where you cannot disagree with the merits of the proposal, only disagree with an opinion based on fundamental values. - Beskar

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