[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[ULC]

Unvote:, Vote: JTH

Why? 4 way tie no thank you. out of everyone else I prefer JTH to be lynched.

[Seon]

I really think we should kill the guy named Abstain.

He stole my present... I still remember the day...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Umm... I mean...err

[Death is yonder]

I really think we should kill the guy named Abstain.

He stole my present... I still remember the day...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Umm... I mean...err

Precisely! Good thinking my man!

Vote: Seon

[Motep]

Unvote, Vote: Kojiro

classic name, not on the list. Cant let that happen.

[Double A]

Fine, Glenn, I'll go to random.org.

13.

unvote, vote: dcmort93

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: Beskar because he's above me on the list

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fine, Glenn, I'll go to random.org.

13.

unvote, vote: dcmort93

unvote, vote: Double A

Not that I have a lot of choice in the matter.

[PershsNhpios]

All this 'random' voting is a lot of pith and vinegar.

That's a highly coincedental vote for an incedental vote, Sasaki...

For what it's worth as they say, I believe Double A to innocent.


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4 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Rebel Jeb, ATPG)

4 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Jarema, Yaropolk, Sasaki)

3 YLC (Choxorn, Beefy187, Ironside)

3 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades, Glenn)

2 johnhughtom (Winston Hughes, YLC)

2 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor)

2 Classical Hero (Renata, Beskar)

2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)

1 Nictel (autolycus)

1 Insanious (pevergreen)

1 Skooma (Diamondeye)

1 Choxorn (A.C.I.N.)

1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)

1 Beskar (Secura, ByzantineKnight)

1 Khazaar (Khazaar)

1 Captain Blackadder (Frozen In Ice)

1 pevergreen (Insanious)

1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)

1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)

1 Seon (DeathisYonder)

1 Sasaki Kojiro (Motep)

1 dcmort93 (Double A)

5 Abstaining (ReenkR, Seon, Nictel, Csargo, landlubber)


41/47 players having voted this round

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It looks like "Random.org" is 'randomly' attempting to keep the tie.

EDIT: Looking at the post count, I am going to Unvote; Vote: AKWC88 in direct obedience to a primary rule; Lynch the lurkers; since AKWC has been active since the game started but hasn't yet made an effort.
Come on round Warman and I will remove my vote.

[johnhughthom]

Unvote:, Vote: JTH

Why? 4 way tie no thank you. out of everyone else I prefer JTH to be lynched.

I agree, lets lynch this JTH character, he sounds very dodgy to me.

[Beskar]

Don't kill Johnhughthom, he will come back and snark you!

[johnhughthom]

Don't kill Johnhughthom, he will come back and snark you!

Didn't stop you trying in Star Wars...

[Beskar]

Didn't stop you trying in Star Wars...

Well, that was because you was mean to me.

[PershsNhpios]

Thank you woad&fangs, I did it for you.

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4 johnhughtom (ATPG, Winston Hughes, Double A, YLC)

3 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Jarema, Yaropolk)

3 YLC (Choxorn, Beefy187, Ironside)

3 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Rebel Jeb)

2 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor)

2 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades)

2 Classical Hero (Renata, Beskar)

2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)

1 Nictel (autolycus)

1 Insanious (pevergreen)

1 Skooma (Diamondeye)

1 Choxorn (A.C.I.N.)

1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)

1 Beskar (Secura)

1 Khazaar (Khazaar)

1 Captain Blackadder (Frozen In Ice)

1 pevergreen (Insanious)

1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)

1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)

7 Abstaining (ReenkR, Glenn, Seon, Nictel, Csargo, Motep, landlubber)

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I think there is a precedent for ties being decided by the fact that a player's name or abbreviation was misspelt - better edit that AA!

Thank you for answering Double A, but surely you knew that you were making a bandwagon on another player - I doubt you are mafia, but I doubt you voted randomly.

If ATPG is being bandwagoned because of his High Profile (see glossary), please remember that strong pro-town roles are easily and stupidly wasted this way...

Otherwise I agree with those couple who were dubious of 'day 1' logic.

Also to the one who said something along the lines of "Most active on day 1 will be most likely major roles because townie PMs are sent out later" - good point but remember Chaotix' post which stated that anyone could attain their basic role from him early by sending him a message. So anyone interested in the game could justifiably be active early.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

For a change, I suggest a genuine random lynch day 1. I just did a random.org and it returned "3".

vote:askthepizzaguy

[Sasaki Kojiro]

For a change, I suggest a genuine random lynch day 1. I just did a random.org and it returned "3".

vote:askthepizzaguy

Lol

It really was random too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

out of everyone else I prefer JTH to be lynched.

What changed your mind? You're still fairly close to being lynched; so it's not due to lack of pressure.

[classical_hero]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

[Winston Hughes]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

In some cases, not changing votes is far scummier. This is one of those cases.

unvote; vote: classical_hero

[Rebel Jeb]

Unvote: Vote: ATPG

;)

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also, Unvote; Vote: YLC I'm not going to be 'that guy' who puts his vote on the person he is tied with so that he doesn't get killed. I'm going to be 'that guy' who makes another person tied to the lynch and has to sweat over it as well. More lulz that way imo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

Well this is nonsense.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2530794

Here, read this first round. Tell me who was the scumbag afterward.

Name one game where a mafioso switched their vote a lot on round one. Bonus points if it was a game I was in.

[TinCow]

Name one game where a mafioso switched their vote a lot on round one. Bonus points if it was a game I was in.

So, you're claiming you're not a mafioso because you're acting in a way a mafioso would never act? Perhaps the question should "name one game where a mafioso used WIFOM in round one."

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, you're claiming you're not a mafioso because you're acting in a way a mafioso would never act? Perhaps the question should "name one game where a mafioso used WIFOM in round one."

No, I'm pointing out that his theory "No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum" doesn't have any basis in reality.

There's no attempt at WIFOM in my statement, Tincow, and I know you know that.

It would be WIFOM if I had said "No mafioso would ever do that, so I must be innocent". I never said any such thing. But if someone said "only a mafioso would abstain on round one" and used that as a reason to vote for someone who abstained, and someone pointed out that such reasoning has no leg to stand on, it would not be WIFOM to state such a fact.

[Romanic]

Hi, I'm late to the party.

vote: acin

Talking about steak is useless.

[Romanic]

Updated tally.

4 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades, Glenn, autolycus)
4 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor, Captain Blackadder, Romanic)
4 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Yaropolk, Sasaki, Rebel Jeb)
3 YLC (Choxorn, Ironside, ACIN)
3 Classical Hero (Renata, Beskar, Winston Hughes)
3 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Beefy187)
2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)
2 Seon (DeathisYonder, YLC)
2 Beskar (Secura, ByzantineKnight)
1 johnhughtom (ATPG)
1 Insanious (pevergreen)
1 Skooma (Diamondeye)
1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)
1 Khazaar (Khazaar)
1 Captain Blackadder (Frozen In Ice)
1 pevergreen (Insanious)
1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)
1 Sasaki Kojiro (Motep)
1 dcmort93 (Double A)
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6 Abstaining (ReenkR, Seon, Nictel, Csargo, landlubber, Jarema)
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44/47 players having voted this round

(Glenn, I removed white lines in your format. This is taking unnecessary space. You can contact my lawyers.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

With the current tally, you will not lynch any mafiosi.

There are 6 realistic candidates for the lynch, nine if you include those with two votes. I expressed my distaste with mass wagons in the previous game, but here there is the opposite tactical situation. Unless you're waiting for a flinch, the time has come to decide who dies, of those candidates, and put more votes on them so that the lynch cannot be overturned.

The only case against ACIN is that he doesn't play the way you'd like him to. It's not a case for being guilty, but cutting your losses. Double A could have put more pressure on me and did not, and as such I'm inclined to return the favor (this time). YLC is the same way. Case on warman is that he's been active elsewhere but isn't voting. Possible he's waiting until the last minute to spare himself but I find such a tactic unlikely from him. I could expect him to get lynched without noticing or saving himself, frankly. Case on me is nonexistent/random candidate.

Classical hero tossing suspicion on me without following up with a vote is inconsistent, and has an outside chance of being motivated by scummery.

As such, the only decent case I see is Hero.

unvote, vote: Classical_hero