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    Well I'd use this for percentages:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2010

    In 2010, there was a dramatic drop in rocket attacks, down from 569 in 2009 to 150 in 2010. In 2008, in comparison, 2,048 rockets were fired into Israel from Gaza.
    It seems likely that Palestinian 'defensive actions' that aren't acts of terrorism are less than 1% when the IDF isn't invading in retaliation for rocket attacks.

    You say you don't support targeting civilians, but that is almost all the Palestinian groups do. If you really didn't support attacking civilians, you can't support whose primary actions are targeting civilians. Nor can you support the Palestinian people, who voted those groups into power.

    You'll excuse all the terrorist acts by saying Israel has given the Palestinians a lot of reasons to hate them. And Israel has given Palestinians a lot of legitimate reasons to hate them. That doesn't excuse attacking civilians.

    However the Palestinians can stop the rocket attacks and other terrorist acts and begin the transition to a more peaceful era.

    But that would require them to love their children more than they hate Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Well I'd use this for percentages:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2010

    It seems likely that Palestinian 'defensive actions' that aren't acts of terrorism are less than 1% when the IDF isn't invading in retaliation for rocket attacks.
    So you are saying the Palestinians have a right to kill IDF soldiers in Gaza because it is self-defense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    You say you don't support targeting civilians, but that is almost all the Palestinian groups do. If you really didn't support attacking civilians, you can't support whose primary actions are targeting civilians. Nor can you support the Palestinian people, who voted those groups into power.
    I don't support the targeting the of civilians. I think the Palestinians should target the Israeli military and government, not Israeli civilians.

    And yes, I do support the Palestinian people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    You'll excuse all the terrorist acts by saying Israel has given the Palestinians a lot of reasons to hate them. And Israel has given Palestinians a lot of legitimate reasons to hate them. That doesn't excuse attacking civilians.
    You continue to imply that I support terrorism. I think in the interest of fair play you either quote me as saying such a thing or refrain from saying it.

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    [B][U]However the Palestinians can stop the rocket attacks and other terrorist acts and begin the transition to a more peaceful era.
    However the Israelis can stop the brutal subjugation and other terrorist acts and begin the transition to a more peaceful era

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    But that would require them to love their children more than they hate Israel.
    That's a cute tagline but it doesn't mean anything other than a Palestinian should hold hands with his child while in his other hand he holds a flower all the while IDF jets are straffing his house.

    It might make for a cute poem in the Tao Tse Ching, but in real life, it's meaningless.
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