"How can we praise our selfs as being the light of civilization when we support tyrannos' in krete?!?!" Kaleros yelled across the council

"And taking Lesbos now? with a Makedonian army the size of the Allied and the Spartan army combined? you must be mad, risking everything; the controll of Thessaly, it will say allmost open! its the gateway to Attike, for what to gain? another front; with the Arche Seleukia?! i STRONGLY DISAGREE its a tactical failure!"

"you even wants to attack over sea... with pirates lurking everywhere?!" Kaleros was now almost red in his face, his passion for tactics and... the lives of his friends became.... very apparent...