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[Fisherking]

Andres! He stole my drinking buddy, and took him to the special Belgium beer section where exclusive 'Gentlemen Club' are, along with people with green names, like Fisherking, and peverGREEN.

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More seriously, if you want to get friendly with people, talk to them. If there is a poster you really like, why not PM them, and try to build up a rapport? Sometimes it might not go anywhere far, it depends on the person, but those with similar interests or talk might be willing. I know I have tried with some posters and we haven't gotten far at all, and with others, I talk to on programs like MSN with them often since we built up a decent rapport.

There isn't much into cliques, but then I am not much of a clique person myself.

Also being a common gameroom player, there are many people I talk to regularly, like Pizza, Renata, Diamondeye, God Emperor, Johnhughthom, TheFlax, Beefy then there are non-mafia players like 'The Mad Arab', Husar, Miotas, etc. Even then, there have been game room players I felt I haven't really communicated that well with, so I don't really talk to them, then there are others ArpgiatteTHIS, etc, who are not around often due to real life circumstance.

bolox!!!

Do you thing Lemur and CR agree anymore now that they are green than the did before?

Or Louis? Depending on his meds he has trouble agreeing with himself.

The only thing the green guys have in common is responsibility that the rules are followed and to kick out spam bots that clutter the threads we all try to use.

[Beskar]

The only thing the green guys have in common is responsibility that the rules are followed and to kick out spam bots that clutter the threads we all try to use.

Welcome to Exclusive Gentleman Club.

The first rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club is: you do not talk about Exclusive Gentleman Club.
The second rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club is: you DO NOT talk about Exclusive Gentleman Club!
Third rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club: if someone yells "stop!", goes limp, or taps out, the drinking contest is over.
Fourth rule: only two guys to a beer, no more.
Fifth rule: one beer at a time, fellas.
Sixth rule: the drinks are Belgium beer. No lager, no shots no whiskeys.
Seventh rule: drinking contests will go on as long as they have to.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Exclusive Gentleman Club, you have to get smashed.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I've been here since 2003, noone has mentioned me in the "who are you anyway?" thread in the Backroom, I'm obviously not part of the cool Backroom guys exclusive club but that's okay, I don't want to be, I hate them all anyway, that's what the Backroom is for, my personal playground to spread hate and annoy other people by posting things they have to ignore. I guess.

You're not anonymous. I think people do notice your posts, the problem is that this is the internet and you're not being controversial enough to provoke a response.

Moderate-sounding and often sensible replies will rarely get much attention. I posted in the Israel/Palestine thread recently about the history of the situation, without really taking one side. Of course, it was ignored.

Then I strike in the thread on gay parenting with some hardline views and suddenly everyone's quoting me.

[edyzmedieval]

Welcome to Exclusive Gentleman Club.

The first rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club is: you do not talk about Exclusive Gentleman Club.
The second rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club is: you DO NOT talk about Exclusive Gentleman Club!
Third rule of Exclusive Gentleman Club: if someone yells "stop!", goes limp, or taps out, the drinking contest is over.
Fourth rule: only two guys to a beer, no more.
Fifth rule: one beer at a time, fellas.
Sixth rule: the drinks are Belgium beer. No lager, no shots no whiskeys.
Seventh rule: drinking contests will go on as long as they have to.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Exclusive Gentleman Club, you have to get smashed.

Ey, yo, buddy, pass me a beer. And move out of my TV sight, I'm trying to watch the game!

Thanks.

[Beskar]

Moderate-sounding and often sensible replies will rarely get much attention. I posted in the Israel/Palestine thread recently about the history of the situation, without really taking one side. Of course, it was ignored.

I stopped watching that thread since one person basically hijacked it. Sorry if I missed your post.

I've been here since 2003, noone has mentioned me in the "who are you anyway?" thread in the Backroom, I'm obviously not part of the cool Backroom guys exclusive club but that's okay, I don't want to be, I hate them all anyway, that's what the Backroom is for, my personal playground to spread hate and annoy other people by posting things they have to ignore. I guess.

Also, I have never been mentioned at all in the "Who are you anyway?" thread at all and I have 2000 more posts!

[Rhyfelwyr]

I like how half the posts in this thread are people revealing that they feel left out. Even the ones everyone else thought was part of the perceived 'in-group'.

I guess people are just insecure attention-whores.

[Togakure]

Hum, so would someone like to tell us who some of the members of this exclusive “Gentlemen’s’ Club” are?
I am sure most of us would really like to know who these powerbrokers and their cabal are. A few names maybe, so we could judge for our selves?

ByzantinePrince, Navaros, Elmo, YoungYogiBear, and the notorious ringleader: DaveinKorea.

And those you think do fit in may also feel they do not. ...

Indeed. I've often felt that way, except maybe in the distance past when other STW MP friends were here. But it didn't keep me from just being me and participating in my way. I finally realized that at least some of my more serious posts weren't necessarily being ignored. Sometimes what you write is enough. On occasion, someone will acknowledge you for it. That does feel golden. I certainly appreciate it when that happens. But just because it doesn't, doesn't mean that people aren't appreciative, or that they disregard you and what you have to say. Now I just *shrug* and think to myself, 'well maybe someone hears, understands, and appreciates--maybe not. I've had my say,' and move on.

About the assertion that "nothing" is being done: there is a quite a lot going on that isn't readily apparent. Keep in mind that many if not most who serve on this site do so in their spare time, with jobs and families too. It's just gonna take some time, and a lot of effort, to actualize the visions that have been put forward. Consider according a little respect, as the staff does hear; staff does care (or why would they bother working here?!), and staff is doing what it can to move the Org forward, peu à peu.

[Husar]

I like how half the posts in this thread are people revealing that they feel left out. Even the ones everyone else thought was part of the perceived 'in-group'.

How else do you disprove that there is a huge in-group?

I guess people are just insecure attention-whores.

Bollox, you and your extremist opinions again, trying to get attention?

[Fisherking]

Also, I have never been mentioned at all in the "Who are you anyway?" thread at all and I have 2000 more posts!

fib!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053240439
evil insider!

[PanzerJaeger]

I read and appreciate your posts in the backroom, Subotan, even if I don't often agree.

As has been said, usually extreme positions get the most responses, as they are the easiest to counter.

[Beskar]

fib!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053240439
evil insider!

I mentioned pevergreen, I wasn't mentioned myself personally. ;)

[Veho Nex]

I try to welcome everyone with open arms, unless I think they are a troll or a sock

That narrows it down to 5 guys

I'm only half joking

Quick! which one am I? Can I be my own category? Like, Socking Troll, orrrr, That Trolling Sock, How about "Foot Warmer who just happens to live under a bridge".

[Fisherking]

I mentioned pevergreen, I wasn't mentioned myself personally. ;)

Just quoted... evil one

[TosaInu]

The .Org has changed from a forum about TW games, to a forum where a bunch of 20-something+ guys who sorta-know each other hang out and chat.

Several hundreds daily (registered users, not guests) is a more likely figure, not all of them are very active posters.

[Populus Romanus]

To add in the perspective of a new member, I agree with Subotan completely. It feels like I am ignored all the time in the Tavern. The Frontroom may not be "dead" to those privledged few who seem to run the place, but to everyone else it is.

[Rhyfelwyr]

To add in the perspective of a new member, I agree with Subotan completely. It feels like I am ignored all the time in the Tavern. The Frontroom may not be "dead" to those privledged few who seem to run the place, but to everyone else it is.

But other people here have said the same thing, even people that others thought were part of that "priviledged few".

Who would you actually consider to be in that category?

[Populus Romanus]

Anyone who either starts or posts a lot in any of the girlfriend threads.

[Togakure]

To add in the perspective of a new member, I agree with Subotan completely. It feels like I am ignored all the time in the Tavern. The Frontroom may not be "dead" to those privledged few who seem to run the place, but to everyone else it is.

[tone = surprised; inquisitive; not accusatory or critical at all]:

Does it seem like some are being favored? How so? You can PM me or one of the other staff if you aren't comfortable articulating this here. I've already commented about feeling ignored, but I will add this:

There have been a lot of silly threads in the Front Room lately, basically outhouses for a few who enjoy behaving as 'trolls.' I guess it brings pleasure to some to dupe others who tend to take things at face value, humor at their expense, perhaps a sense of intellectual superiority. Sometimes this isn't really malicious, but I do know the difference between parody and mockery, and mockery of fellow Orgahs will not be tolerated in the FR.

Personally, I would close these kinds of threads when trolling becomes apparent, but because of the complaints of late, I've been taking as much of a 'hands-off' approach as I deem possible while still upholding Org policy. So long as the language is kept clean and there is no bullying or personal attacks, I've let a lot of things ride that don't sit very well with me. If this is not a popular approach, please speak up and be heard. Heh, perhaps we should tighten up further in the FR, and create a "Troll's Den" subforum for those who enjoy this form of entertainment. The bottom line is, discourse in the FR should be lighthearted and fun, PG-13.

Some have complained that the staff are too strict and it's "killing the forum." When I see so many lurkers looking in, but not posting, I can't help but wonder if the real problem is that they are displeased with the nature of the posts/posters that frequent the place, and hence, don't participate. This is why I didn't post much until recently. Perhaps a significant part of the problem lies not with staff .... Agree? Speak up!

[Strike For The South]

The frontroom is meant to be like a pub

I don't care what you post there, even joke threads as long as you are not hiding behind some bull e persona

That cheapens the whole feel of the place

my good for nothing 2 pence

[pevergreen]

Anyone who either starts or posts a lot in any of the girlfriend threads.

Whos been posting them?

Prussian: Still a new guy. Basically all he does is the girl threads. Also some arena talk
Hooah: Been around a while
Csargo: Big mafia player
The Stranger: Cool guy, 'son' of a former Frontroom mod.

If you really think that the people that start the girlfriend threads are part of some elite group, go make one yourself.

[Togakure]

I always thought of the Backroom as the pub, and the Front Room as more of a milkshake diner where the kids can go too and have fun.

[tone=smiling and lighthearted]:

"my good for nothing 2 pence?" What was that about a "bull e persona?" You know well that your pence carries weight here, because it's good for something--and on both sides of the "fence."

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Is this forum...

...really for me or for you guys?

Now of course I do not mean exclusively me vs. everybody else, but rather as a more general term to cover people who don't feel, or who are just aren't members of the Exclusive Gentleman's Club known as TotalWar.Org. For you see, I have never, outside of the Gameroom and EB Tavern (And even then that particular institution was defined by its rejection of what I'm about to discuss) really felt "part" of the .Org. What do I mean by part of the .Org you ask? It's simple; the Exclusive Gentleman's Club that defines itself by its rejection of people who are not already in it.

For example: ACIN posted a thread

HOF 2010 Award: Best Backroom Contributor

The winner is a completely inoffensive name!

Congratulations!

[Strike For The South]

I always thought of the Backroom as the pub, and the Front Room as more of a milkshake diner where the kids can go too and have fun.

[tone=smiling and lighthearted]:

"my good for nothing 2 pence?" What was that about a "bull e persona?" You know well that your pence carries weight here, because it's good for something--and on both sides of the "fence."

True.

What I'm trying to say is this

Back in the Golden age of the .Org, the only thing that made it good was that the people were real and not a collection caricutures that seem to populate most other fourms. Now the invasion of the latter can be chalked up to popularity and, unfortunatley, this must on some level be tolarated as part of making it to the big leauges so to speak. However the core collection of "real" people are still here and tend to be ambivalent at best about letting others join in on there reindeer games. Of couse who wouldn't considering the most likely result is some troll who will only muck up the flow of ideas which makes me keep coming back to this place.

Of course from an outsiders perspective this looks eltist but from my perspective it's merley peservation.

A great example of this is me being the mods "golden boy" (which makes me lol, look at my warnings, Im pretty sure I've given every tavern mod a heart attack at some point) when in reality the only reason the mods might have a longer leash with me is because they know what I am trying to convey and may be more inclined to let things play out, this does not preclude me from punishment. I was just banned, and rightfully so for a complete disregard of forum ettiqute

I would simply say to the new guys, wait a bit, shoot the shit with some of the older guys and you to can be part of this "elite" club

And TBH the pinnacle of this club is a faux gay relationship with a middle aged psuedo phlosiphising Frenchman

YAY elitisim

/whiskey

[pevergreen]

And TBH the pinnacle of this club is a faux gay relationship with a middle aged psuedo phlosiphising Frenchman that isn't even original, seeing as we copied it from peverreenk.

Fixed.

[Megas Methuselah]

What did Mike Hunt used to say? "Imma ride this mother'effer till the wheels fall off!" Heh heh. Those were the days.

Now look at us.

[drone]

Anyone who either starts or posts a lot in any of the girlfriend threads.

These threads are a new fad, back in the heyday you would never see threads like that. The Frontroom is for light-hearted conversation: travel, food/drink, music/TV/movies, sports, hobbies, man-toys, silliness, and the Babe Thread. Look back at the threads from 3-4 years ago, great stuff, lots of variety.

[Hooahguy]

Whos been posting them?

Hooah: Been around a while

Objection. I havent started any girl threads in a very long time. Years, I think. Or posted in them very much.

[pevergreen]

Objection. I havent started any girl threads in a very long time. Years, I think. Or posted in them very much.

Hey SFTS, you should totally hook up with my cousin, shes hot, here is her cup size.

^^^

[Hooahguy]

But it wasnt a "help me with my girl problems" thread.

And the cup thing is not fair.

[pevergreen]

But it wasnt a "help me with my girl problems" thread.

And the cup thing is not fair.

It was a girl thread though.

You were perfectly capable of not posting about how you checked your cousin out, but you did. Can hardly blame us for reminding you of something you said.