BuffyVerse Mafia: Apocalypse Now [Concluded]

[autolycus]

Tally thus far:
atpg-2-csargo, Tincow
csargo-2-atpg, sprig
dcmort-4-Captain Blackadder, classical_hero, kazaar, yaropolk
Romanic-1-pevergreen
Seon-1-chaotix
yaropolk-1-dcmort
Zack-1-thefluffyone

[dcmort93]

Tally thus far:
dcmort-4-Captain Blackadder, classical_hero

Possible error in you math my friend
Also Unvote Yaropolk I believe your reasoning but the fact that I'm already on an innocent team may have been why you could not recruit me

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally thus far:
atpg-2-csargo, Tincow
csargo-2-csargo, sprig
dcmort-4-Captain Blackadder, classical_hero
Romanic-1-pevergreen
Seon-1-chaotix
yaropolk-1-dcmort
Zack-1-thefluffyone

I believe you changed my name to Csargo. I'm flattered that you think so highly of me, but I'm still a pizza guy.

I gotta believe you're missing some votes on dcmort there.

[TinCow]

This is also on Pizzaguy's list of classic townie blunders.

Far from it. You're like me, as active when dead as alive, so not much of a loss if you die as a townie.

Plus, there's something about your posts regarding dcmort that strikes me as being more manipulative than helpful.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Far from it. You're like me, as active when dead as alive, so not much of a loss if you die as a townie.

Plus, there's something about your posts regarding dcmort that strikes me as being more manipulative than helpful.

Strike One!

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I thought that was going to happen. Dang it.

[Yaropolk]

Possible error in you math my friend
Also Unvote Yaropolk I believe your reasoning but the fact that I'm already on an innocent team may have been why you could not recruit me

What's the name of your team? Pm me.

[Csargo]

I believe you changed my name to Csargo. I'm flattered that you think so highly of me, but I'm still a pizza guy.

I gotta believe you're missing some votes on dcmort there.

Csargothepizzaguy?

[Renata]

Hmmmm?
Recruiting?
Now?
HMMMMM....
Vote:Zack
I know I didn't do anything to get into the write-up, but SOMEONE did.
Hmmmmmmm.....

Why comment on the recruitment then vote for someone else?

[Renata]

It's a risk/reward thing: Do you recruit in the dark, or do you scan before attempting it? Makes more sense to scan first unless you're desperate.

And the corollary -- who'd be that desperate on night one?

About dcmort: I just played a game with him as scum and he was all but paralyzed by the role; this sort of impulsive behavior feels more like him as a townie.

[Renata]

^This,

by Autolycus, makes it even more likely that recruiting for similar to Zelda. Conversions occuring before scanning, meaning that a scanner is sure to get a right scan result (unlike Zelda, I think, where scan results were happening before conversion, leading to some recruiters being exposed. I'm not 100% sure of this, but Renata, ATPG or another mafia members should confirm).

I don't remember exactly how it worked in Zelda, but I was exposed through a deliberate choice to scan blindly. Edit: recruit blindly, that is.

[autolycus]

Added the names I missed in the tally before and converted atpg back into himself, so csargo is no longer double and self voting :)

[Secura]

What's the name of your team? Pm me.

Since you claim to be a member of Angel Investigations and you were unable to recruit dcmort93, it's plausible that he is a member of the Sunnydale group rather than Los Angeles... if he's innocent as he says, at least.

[Greyblades]

Csargothepizzaguy?

asktheCsargoguy?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think now might be a good time for Sasaki to explain why he anointed you yesterday; he stated "wait and see" and now you're dead... what gives?

ANOINT:SECURA

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Vote:Secura

What's your theory?

... if he's innocent as he says, at least.

Do you think he is?

[Winston Hughes]

I intend to be active.

vote: Link

[Secura]

What's your theory?

I think the more pertinent question is "what's your reason for saying that?".

Observe the following quote from the series:

"And there will be a time of crisis, of worlds hanging in the balance. And in this time shall come the Anointed, the Master's great warrior. And the Slayer will not know him, will not stop him, and he will lead her into Hell.' As it is written, so shall it be. Five will die, and from their ashes the Anointed shall rise. The Brethren of Aurelius shall greet him and usher him to his immortal destiny.' As it is written, so shall it be."

I don't know why you had to say 'anoint', but in the context of this game it was only going to look scummy; you said we should wait and see what happened, and then he's killed... how else was your comment supposed to be interpreted?

Do you think he is?

I haven't played enough games with dcmort to tell if it is WIFOM or merely townie blundering; my gut says he's innocent, though.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think the more pertinent question is "what's your reason for saying that?".

Observe the following quote from the series:

I haven't seen the show.

I don't know why you had to say 'anoint', but in the context of this game it was only going to look scummy; you said we should wait and see what happened, and then he's killed... how else was your comment supposed to be interpreted?

Your interpretation is that I killed him? Then why aren't you protesting your own death? Either you believe I just killed you, and aren't acting like it, or you don't believe I did, and are making a case you know is bogus...

I haven't played enough games with dcmort to tell if it is WIFOM or merely townie blundering; my gut says he's innocent, though.

That wasn't what the comment I quoted sounded like

[Secura]

I haven't seen the show.

This doesn't make sense though; if you haven't seen the show, where's the basis for making the anoint comment in the first place?

You're still skirting around the reason why you said it!

Your interpretation is that I killed him? Then why aren't you protesting your own death? Either you believe I just killed you, and aren't acting like it, or you don't believe I did, and are making a case you know is bogus...

At what point did I make a case, Sasaki?

I asked for an explaination for your comment; I didn't vote for you, I didn't make any accusations or anything else, it was nothing more than a request to hear your side of the story... you reacted as you did.

When I made that "what gives?" post, my interpretation was that you might have killed him somehow; however, shortly after I posted that, someone approached me (as well as at least two others) and claimed that they are Charles Gunn, ACIN's killer last night. The guy's a vampire hunter who's a pretty good shot with a crossbow, aligned with Angel Investigations in the series; they didn't specify the reason behind the kill, but I believe that they targetted ACIN as a result of your anoint comment in-thread.

However, not being the killer doesn't change what you posted, nor the fact that seeing the word 'anoint' will trigger a certain response in anyone that has seen the show or those that at least played autolycus' first Buffy game over at TWC.

The majority of players don't seem to have a clue about the Buffy series, and so it's a comment that would largely stay beneath the radar for most people... however, for someone like me who absolutely loves the show, it looks more than a little off and I don't think anyone in the same boat can refute that fact.

That wasn't what the comment I quoted sounded like

Why should it sound anything like it? What my gut says and what is actually the case may well be two entirely different things; I get the feeling that dcmort is innocent, but I have to be open to the possibility that my instinct is wrong.

I'd be doing myself a disservice otherwise.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Anoint is a common word

I said that bit for fun and to see what people would say.

I guess I did get him killed though, lol.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote:Winston

[Renata]

Three people approached you over the anoint comment? Who were the other two?

[TinCow]

When I made that "what gives?" post, my interpretation was that you might have killed him somehow; however, shortly after I posted that, someone approached me (as well as at least two others) and claimed that they are Charles Gunn, ACIN's killer last night. The guy's a vampire hunter who's a pretty good shot with a crossbow, aligned with Angel Investigations in the series; they didn't specify the reason behind the kill, but I believe that they targetted ACIN as a result of your anoint comment in-thread.

Please ID this person, as they need to be lynched. Pro-town roles do not kill on N1, period.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Please ID this person, as they need to be lynched. Pro-town roles do not kill on N1, period.

Yeah except in the immediate predecessor to this game, I was Charles Gunn and I attempted to kill every single night.

I don't know where you're head is at in this game, Tincow, but I don't like it.

You might not like the chosen strategy of some vigilantes, but that doesn't mean we should just execute them on a whim. You'll do quite nicely though.

unvote, vote: Tincow

[Renata]

Even if this person (thought they?) had reason to believe that Sasaki had turned ACIN into a vampire?

[Renata]

vote: TinCow

[Renata]

I guess DCMort has to spill the Beans on who he is. Only then can we decide what to do, there is the decent chance that he is simply from ?Summerdale? and a Buffy character, probabably not recruitable for the L.A. team.

(vote snipped)

I don't understand this reasoning at all, Khazaar. There's a decent chance he's just from Sunnydale, but you vote him anyway -- to what purpose? If he claims "the guy who had a crush on Buffy from season two" or some such, you unvote? Where did you plan to go with this?

And Fluffy hasn't respnoded to explain Oh hmm hnn recruitment vote: Zack, either. Did you or did you not find Yaropolk to be suspicious based on what dcmort had to say?

[TinCow]

Yeah except in the immediate predecessor to this game, I was Charles Gunn and I attempted to kill every single night.

I don't know where you're head is at in this game, Tincow, but I don't like it.

You might not like the chosen strategy of some vigilantes, but that doesn't mean we should just execute them on a whim. You'll do quite nicely though.

I have no idea who Charles Gunn is, nor do I particularly care in this situation. We clearly have two mafia teams in this game and we have two night kills on N1. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.

Even if this person (thought they?) had reason to believe that Sasaki had turned ACIN into a vampire?

You're telling me we have a person who actually believes the mafia have to recruit by posting their target publicly in the thread?! LOL.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have no idea who Charles Gunn is, nor do I particularly care in this situation. We clearly have two mafia teams in this game and we have two night kills on N1. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.

So, in the same breath: you don't know what you're talking about, but you're also very confident you've figured it out.

Yes, I like where this is headed.

[TinCow]

So, in the same breath: you don't know what you're talking about, but you're also very confident you've figured it out.

Yes, I like where this is headed.

Yes, I figured it out. Someone admitted to killing on N1. As far as I am concerned, people who kill on N1 need to be lynched. People who don't kill on N1 also need to be lynched, but after the first group.