I have tried to stay out of the Frontroom (i'm not doing a very good job of that) so far to try to direct my posting in the gaming side. Unfortunately I have to step in here, and what I have to say could go in any of a few Frontroom threads.

I just can't get my head around the States, nothing seems to compare to the UK in terms of the general ideologies of the population. More precisely the younger generations. If I walked through "Gang" areas here and were threatened I would have had to have done something to provoke them. Keep your head down and nothing happens. Sometimes you will get the odd trouble maker who will start something but not often.

For one of these groups to start calling you "hater" makes me think that you ran into the local 10 year olds! Threaten to hospitalise a gang of hoodies, chavs w/e over here you will be hurt. More than likely badly as UK adolescent/ young males (or females) stereotypically have no idea of when to stop the beatings.

This leads me on to another thread but it ties in here. It is referring to "stand-offs" in bars. Excuse me? Attempt a stand-off over here and it wouldn't last long, bottles, tables, fists etc would be crashing in before you could say " lets have a stand-...". Ahem.

Then of course it would be dispersed quickly by the bouncers but only to be taken outside, which is much, much worse.

I don't live in a rough area, not by a long stretch. I don't frequent rough bars neither. Much of this sounds like forum hyperboles but it really is aggravating to read. Please cut it out lads nobody is interested in this kind of posturing.