Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Major Robert Dump]

Wow. You must think you're the big boss and everyone has to listen to you. You're theories get worse and worse.

Also, you didn't reveal like you said you would if others did. I told you people everything, and you are still gonna lynch me, which proves you are scum or very inept townies. I like how you make some grand secret plan that requires people publicly claim, then you balk and bandwagon me as well.

YOU AINT THE BOSS OF ME I DIDNT DO NUTHIN

[Earthling]

not spelling "your/you're" correctly = scum ;) Don't think the rest of the lies there need to be addressed, they are self evident.

I will point out one other thing though - nothing about MRD's claim rules out a cover role or a wholly false claim (he could even be using the cover role of another chaotic who just told him what to say). Presumably Blackadder is using meta-knowledge from his previous role and thinks this says something about MRD, but it doesn't. He claimed almost nothing that's not public - only the enemies list which the chaotics could know from a number of sources if it's even true, and could have taken the roleclaim from the links to other games at the start of the thread.

[Major Robert Dump]

REALLY, MY IDENTITY WAS ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE?

[Earthling]

No, the role of Rudolph was. Thus any scum constructing a cover role could have done what you did. Describe your item(s), personal ability(ies), and personal goal if you want to role reveal something that's not public knowledge and could indicate you're not a scum. It's scummy lies and strawmen like this that are repeated again and again with you. And with your "reveals" so far you even admitted to lying to everyone publicly about several of things, that in itself is more than enough reason for a lynch.

[Choxorn]

Beskar, I love you in this game.

You've got that awesome "don't give a " attitude that always makes things more fun.

Only this game? You don't love him in every game?

Toe Of Suspicion: Chaotix

I don't understand how civplayah could have 0 credit to steal on Night 2.
Does anyone have an explanation for this?

It's possible multiple people attempted to steal from him, but I'd think that even if several people successfully stole more than he had, they'd still both get something.

What the????

If MRD is scum (I think he is now), so is Warman.

Fold. Bet: 15 credits on MRD

It's possible Warman and some other MRD unvoters are townie. He's been leading a Voting Block the past couple of days, which explains a lot of the item votes, coordinating it through PM's. I know myself, Arpeg (before he died), and Warman to be among the people he contacted. Trusting him and voting him items haven't been the smartest things I've done in this game.

Get on the voting train. Give me the Puffy shirt, Arpegg the Omega or Desert Eagle, and EliteWarman the Cartoon Mallet or Animator and we will return the favor with one of the other items (preferably the mallet or animator, since Arpegg is willing to trade votes for those items only)

Thanks for the vote, but it looks like we starte too late. Guess I missed out on the ole-boy network they got going on. If I can sway the lynch at the last minute with a max bet, I may do that, just out of spite. I doubt YLC is chaotic based on the manner in which B-Ray talks about the scan. A non-participant who is mafia still has its uses, because of the whole credit-total thing being used for victory. Anyway, thanks again. Let me know early next day what item you want to strive for

He tried to get me, and presumably, Warman, to save him a few hours ago:

I'll publicly claim if you vote CivPlayah and help keep me from getting lynched. These things they assume are false

Speaking of those PM's, a good deal of his conversation with me has been quite a bit scummy. Throughout the conversation, he made some probably false unsubstantiated claims and downright lies, and possibly even some rule-breaks to try to get something out of me and get me to join him in the votes. A lot of what he says doesn't make any sense for anyone to say, but especially not for an innocent to say.

Cards represent factions, with the number being the faction. You are on the right track.

How do you know?

I just gave you a piece of information that you will very soon find out is true as people start dropping dead. Believe it or don't believe it, but don't expect any more goose eggs from me until you give me something in return.

Having seen two Bizarros with different numbered cards, I'm not entirely sure I believe this any more. There are also 2 8's belonging to 2 different factions. It's still somewhat plausible, but highly unlikely.

I told u this info first because your observation means either you are very intuitive, you have a special role, or Blackadder was from the same sub- faction as you. That being said, you cannot legally tell me who you are, nor can I tell you, so tread lightly.

It was a guess. I reasoned that with the large number of games, especially several with few possible characters, there were probably a lot of small factions rather than a few large factions, as that's usually true in mafia games with factions anyway. That the numbers might correspond to factions was a logical guess from there.

My question now, is how did you know... or how did you suspect... that this was the case? You either guessed it like I did, or you have some secret info, in your role PM or otherwise, that told you.

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There are 13 sets of face cards. I highly doubt there are 13 factions. It is far more plausible that each town faction has 2 sets of cards, for example 5 factions take up 10 sets, with the last 3 sets being anti-town, or some variation there of. If there were 13 factions it is statistically improbable that we would already be seeing doubles.

CPT Blackadder had a 2. I know of one other player who is Bizarro and also has a 2, I confirmed this info with 2 players with whom that player is PMing. The only other player I have shared this info with is Mystery. I will not give you his name because he allegedly has the detective ability, and for all I know you are Chaotic. Of course, this player and her two friends could both be pulling my leg in an effort to get undeserved protection.

And for the record, after the night phase, my card face value matches that of a teammate who was lynched. Furthermore, the individual who tried to murder me left behind evidence which points to his faction and possible identity, and his card value/faction matches that of a card value/faction of one of the deceased. I am not saying this in public because I don't want to catch heat and be lynched by his faction, and he doesn't know that I know. I am not worried about night phase, it's highly unlikely anyone will be able to kill me.

How did you find all of this out? I thought we weren't allowed to share what faction we belonged to and what numbers we had in private.

Nice job picking my alibi apart. you're right, We're not supposed to make private claims. And 25% of what I have said is true because I have to satiate your curiousity somehow without telling you who I am. It's called misdirection. But I am right about the cards. You will see. Nothing Inappropriate has been done and my PMs will prove it and are open for the mods to view.

If you don't want to coordinate, fine. I am trying to figure this card thing out by putting facts together, and you have a fact that I know is true. Stop asking questions that require me to figure out a way to prove to you what I am saying is true, resulting in me pulling a poorly-constructed explanation out of my ass.

You should also be advised that some people start this game with info on other players. People can also bluff faction/detective scans and confront the target, but the recipient of the scan cannot confirm their identity one way or the other. My intent has been to talk you into mutually sharing scan results, including scanning each other, and to coordinate item votes. I gave you a tidbit that is true about the cards. Trust me, Padawan, I can be on to vote just before the turn ends

So, MRD is scummy in thread, scummy in private, might have broken a rule or two on private claims, and is in thread generally acting like a

Bet 30 Credits on: Major Robert Dump

[Major Robert Dump]

Wow, a public lie is worthy of death. I feel sorry for you then.

VOTE: 30 CIVPLAYAH


VOTE QUILLS: ELITEWARMAN
VOTE ROPE: CHOXORN
VOTE GAG: MAJOR ROBERT DUMP
DESERT EAGLE: THEFLUFFYONE
SHELL: BEEFY187
WOLFEN FIGHTER: BOW WOW WOW
FIREBALL: SKOOMA ADDICT

[Major Robert Dump]

Wow, a public lie is worthy of death. I feel sorry for you then.

VOTE: 30 CIVPLAYAH


VOTE QUILLS: ELITEWARMAN
VOTE ROPE: CHOXORN
VOTE GAG: MAJOR ROBERT DUMP
DESERT EAGLE: THEFLUFFYONE
SHELL: BEEFY187
WOLFEN FIGHTER: BOW WOW WOW
FIREBALL: SKOOMA ADDICT

[Earthling]

unvote, vote: Fireball to Renata it's better than any other options for that item.

[Major Robert Dump]

I broke no rules, everything was a lie except that I also have a 2, which matches the 2 of my dead clanmate, which is what started it all. You were the first person I talked to in the thread. i forwarded my PMs to the host.

[Earthling]

choxorn I'm worried that they might have won the vote. MRD, Warman, Blackadder, fluffy, and whatshisface plus acin's vote have like 160 total credits. We might want to fold and save ours, they'll prob lose on an Innocent civplayah.

[Askthepizzaguy]

TIME UP. No more votes will be accepted past 0100.


Standby for tally, writeup.

[Jolt]

Discussing what you cannot legally say just for the purpose of having an advantage and winning a mafia forum game at the expense of the rest of us is a disrespect, to be honest.

To be sure you actually die, here.

Raise: 30 credits on MRD

I don't really care about losing credits when its about putting poor players out of the game.

EDIT: BLARGH. Anyways, at least I don't lose more credits if you're townie.

[Major Robert Dump]

Fold; 5 credits ACIN
Bet: 10 credits on MJD

You had me at mistake.

Not me

[Major Robert Dump]

I did not discuss anything factual, it was all "someone else said this" and I never revealed anything about myself. It was pretend. I never said I had a 2, no one else ever PMd me their numbers or detective results, I was talking to no one else except some feeler PMs to mythmonster and he pretty much ignored me. Choxorm asked me how I knew all of that and I told him it was crap because it was.

None of the people who voted to save me had anything to do with this, and I had no contact with them until last round when Earthling and I started arguing. If you are going to crucify me, have at it, but don't think there was some big cheater ring because there wasn't.

[Seon]

[Romanic]

Wow, a public lie is worthy of death. I feel sorry for you then.

VOTE: 30 CIVPLAYAH

Oh boy! I bet this highlighting will make MRD sweat all over the place.

[Seon]

Yeah. Now people just have to vig kill him during the night and we can be home by Christmas.

[Earthling]

Not me

The host has said a typo alone doesn't disqualify a vote. If you're scum this is really pathetic. Also by all rights the game host should replace ACIN (or also civplayah) with someone like Kagemusha, (as he stated none of the original reserve list is available but one of them if so) and ACIN's previous vote probably should not count as Kagemusha did not make that vote to lose his credits. If the tally is made with ACIN replaced and without his vote counted (and no, Roman, it is fair to count MRD's vote there, that could be called another misformat) then that's at least fair.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Finally. Forum hiccup prevented me from doing anything but the tally so far. And, seriously, a close one.



* Hammer Brother's RED SHELL (10% vigilante item)

Beefy- 7 Beefy, Chaotix, Diamondeye, Skooma, choxorn, shlin, MRD
Beskar- Beskar, DIY, Autolycus
Earthling- Earthling
Mythmonster- Mythmonster


* Andross Oikonny's WOLFEN FIGHTER (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% investigatory)

Believer- 4 Believer, Renata, God Emperor, Psychonaut
DIY- DIY, choxorn
Earthling- Earthling
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Bow-wow-wow- Skooma, Bow-wow-wow, MRD
Ironside- shlin
ACIN- ACIN
Fluffy- Fluffy
Robbie- Robbie, Chaotix

* Pocupiney's PORCUPINE QUILLS (10% defender item)

Believer- 4 Believer, Renata, God Emperor, choxorn
Earthling- Earthling
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Ironside- Ironside
Greyblades- Greyblades
Psychonaut- Psychonaut
Warman- MRD
MRD- Fluffy
Visorslash- Visorslash, Chaotix, DIY, shlin

* Fire Brother's FIREBALL (10% retaliatory item)

Renata- 7 Renata, Believer, Chaotix, Zack, Diamondeye, choxorn, Earthling
shlin28- DIY,
Ironside- Ironside
Skooma- Skooma, shlin, MRD


* Sideshow Bob's ROPE (10% bus driver item)

choxorn- 8 choxorn, Renata, Believer, Zack, DIY, shlin, Earthling, MRD
Chaotix- Chaotix,
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Autolycus- Autolycus
Fluffy- Fluffy


* Sideshow Bob's GAG (50% SILENCER item)

MRD- 5 Beskar, choxorn, DIY, Diamondeye, MRD
Fluffy- Fluffy, shlin
Renata- 5 Renata, Believer, Zack, Earthling, Autolycus
Chaotix, Chaotix




* Custom Desert Eagle: 10% retaliatory kill chance. (Branagh's Custom Desert Eagle)


Robbie- 3 Robbie, Chaotix, shlin
God Emperor- Believer, God Emperor
Zack- 4 Zack, Renata, choxorn, Earthling
shlin- DIY,
Ironside- Ironside
Fluffy- MRD


LYNCH

civplayah- 161 (2 Chaotix, 19 ACIN, 30 Warman, 20 Crazed Rabbit, 30 Fluffy. 30 Blackadder, 30 MRD

MRD- 160 (30 Earthling, 1 Visorslash 15 Robbiecon, 30 Romanic, 15 Zack, 10 Believer, 2 Link, 10Autolycus, 5 Renata, 10 shlin, 1 Jolt, 1 B_ray, 30 choxorn,
Earthling- 35 (30 Subotan, 5 Bow,
Subotan- 23 (5 dcmort, 3 Diamondeye, 2 Ironside, 5 Red_Spy, 8 myth,
ACIN- 16 (8 God Emperor, 5 Psychonaut, 3 DIY
Seon- 3 (3 Gamez,
Chaotix- 1 (1 Beskar,



Gosh, it would be great if someone could double-check this tally for me. In all seriousness, I'd hate for someone to die or lose out on an item due to a miscount.

I was very careful but mistakes are possible in a multipage thread where there seem to be a hundred vote posts or more.

[Romanic]

The host has said a typo alone doesn't disqualify a vote. If you're scum this is really pathetic. Also by all rights the game host should replace ACIN (or also civplayah) with someone like Kagemusha, (as he stated none of the original reserve list is available but one of them if so) and ACIN's previous vote probably should not count as Kagemusha did not make that vote to lose his credits. If the tally is made with ACIN replaced and without his vote counted (and no, Roman, it is fair to count MRD's vote there, that could be called another misformat) then that's at least fair.

Yeah, I guess the vote will be valid. Making him sweat is what I'm doing.... and there's still a chance that ATPG will rule it invalid.

What are you talking about with "If you're scum this is really pathetic" ?

Edit: xpost, and well the vote is valid.

[Major Robert Dump]

Bah. I am colorblind.

After re-reading my PMs posted above, when I said I had a card matching one of the half a dozen people killed during the night phase, I mistakingly used the word "lynched" when I should have said killed, murdered or whatever. I think the formatting of the sentence should prove what my intent was, but now I see how it could be considered TMI. The intent was not to reveal my card, but to prove that some cards match by faction, and revealing my card to a complete strange would have made no sense anyhow. The host told me I was walking too close to the line after I volunteered the info to him, but at that time I did not realize the mixup in words noted above. It was not the only thing in the game details that I missed or understood.
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[Romanic]

Yeah that tally looks alright, except that shlin is voting twice - Subotan should be a 23. No big deal.

Lol, we lost by one credit.

[Earthling]

I voted Zack the DESERT EAGLE as well, so no need for whatever tiebreak came into play there it appears

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay. Well, if I happen to be wrong, which I don't think I am, civplayah asked to be replaced/was going inactive anyway.

Fate rewards the decisive. You don't want to have massive tallies like that on two candidates, especially that close. Lose a lot of credits that way, no matter who dies.


Here we go....

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY THREE

The Angelic One called the meeting of the evil creatures to order, and asked who among them was responsible for the murders happening at night. Today, the discussion was rather colorful and fierce, with tempers flaring and obscenities dropped, personal attacks thrown about, and Gameroom moderators stepping in to tell people to behave. It was a mess.

When it came down to the final hours before sunset, two main suspects emerged. One of whom was very loud and colorful, and the other was dead silent. In the final count, slightly more anger was directed toward the silent one than the loud one. And so they had decided.

Angelic One: "Bring the quiet one before me. Bring me.... civplayah!"


civplayah was sleeping in the back of the group, with drool running down his face.

"Let's get him!!!" Shouted Major Robert Dump, leading the charge. The evil creatures trampled over one another, trying to destroy this silent creature. But another faction, lead by Earthling and Romanic, tried to destroy Major Robert Dump. The two factions stood facing one another, and they gritted their teeth and stomped their hooves and loaded their weapons.


Angelic One: "I said bring me the quiet one! What are you doing?"

The evil creatures ignored the Angelic One and began brawling with one another, each trying to destroy their targets. Many villains lost a considerable amount of strength, and several limped away from the battle, wounded and exhausted. In the end, Major Robert Dump was still standing, and led his exhausted forces toward the sleeping civplayah.


"YOU! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS!!!" shouted Dump.

"Wha-?? What? What's going on? I already told you fools I wanted no part of this. What are you doing, get your hands off of me!" replied civplayah.

They tossed civplayah in front of the Angelic One, who had been growing impatient.



Angelic One: "Prepare to face your final judgment. Do you have any last words?"


civplayah: "Yes I do."


Angelic One: "....Well said."


And with that, the Angel summoned forth a pit of man-eating anteaters, and kicked civplayah into the pit to watch him die.


civplayah: "With my last breath, I CURSE ZOIDBERG!!!"

______________________________




Summary of events:


civplayah has been lynched!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

civplayah was Professor Farnsworth, of the Springfield Mafia faction!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

civplayah was EVIL!



9 of Hearts

Alive Players- (37/50)

A completely inoffensive name
Autolycus
B_Ray2 (Replacing Methos)
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
Captain Blackadder2 (Replacing Double A)
Chaotix
choxorn
classical_hero2 (Replacing El Barto)
Crazed Rabbit
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Earthling
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
Zack

Deceased-

Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero

Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One

TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty) 8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) King of Clubs
-------------Night One

YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two

Diana Abnoba- Andross Oikonny [Evil] Evil Mafia (Star Fox- Lylat Wars) 3 of Diamonds
Csargo- Porcupiney the Porcupine [Evil] South Park Mafia (South Park- Imaginationland) Ace of Hearts
Backwards Logic- Fire Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness) 7 of Hearts
ArpeggiateTHIS- Sideshow Bob/GANONDORF [SERIAL KILLER] Springfield Mafia (ZELDA- WAR IN HYRULE) 10 of Clubs
-------------Night Two

civplayah- Professor Farnsworth [Evil] Springfield Mafia (Futurama Drama Mafiama) 9 of Hearts
-------------Day Three





BEGIN NIGHT THREE.

Everyone who wagered lost their wagered credits. Everyone who did not wager lost 1 credit.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

* Hammer Brother's RED SHELL (10% vigilante item)

Beefy- 7 Beefy, Chaotix, Diamondeye, Skooma, choxorn, shlin, MRD
Beskar- Beskar, DIY, Autolycus
Earthling- Earthling
Mythmonster- Mythmonster


* Andross Oikonny's WOLFEN FIGHTER (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% investigatory)

Believer- 4 Believer, Renata, God Emperor, Psychonaut
DIY- DIY, choxorn
Earthling- Earthling
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Bow-wow-wow- Skooma, Bow-wow-wow, MRD
Ironside- shlin
ACIN- ACIN
Fluffy- Fluffy
Robbie- Robbie, Chaotix

* Pocupiney's PORCUPINE QUILLS (10% defender item)

Believer- 4 Believer, Renata, God Emperor, choxorn
Earthling- Earthling
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Ironside- Ironside
Greyblades- Greyblades
Psychonaut- Psychonaut
Warman- MRD
MRD- Fluffy
Visorslash- Visorslash, Chaotix, DIY, shlin

* Fire Brother's FIREBALL (10% retaliatory item)

Renata- 7 Renata, Believer, Chaotix, Zack, Diamondeye, choxorn, Earthling
shlin28- DIY,
Ironside- Ironside
Skooma- Skooma, shlin, MRD


* Sideshow Bob's ROPE (10% bus driver item)

choxorn- 8 choxorn, Renata, Believer, Zack, DIY, shlin, Earthling, MRD
Chaotix- Chaotix,
Diamondeye- Diamondeye
Autolycus- Autolycus
Fluffy- Fluffy


* Sideshow Bob's GAG (50% SILENCER item)

MRD- 5 Beskar, choxorn, DIY, Diamondeye, MRD
Fluffy- Fluffy, shlin
Renata- 5 Renata, Believer, Zack, Earthling, Autolycus
Chaotix, Chaotix




* Custom Desert Eagle: 10% retaliatory kill chance. (Branagh's Custom Desert Eagle)


Robbie- 3 Robbie, Chaotix, shlin
God Emperor- Believer, God Emperor
Zack- 4 Zack, Renata, choxorn, Earthling
shlin- DIY,
Ironside- Ironside
Fluffy- MRD


LYNCH

civplayah- 161 (2 Chaotix, 19 ACIN, 30 Warman, 20 Crazed Rabbit, 30 Fluffy. 30 Blackadder, 30 MRD

MRD- 160 (30 Earthling, 1 Visorslash 15 Robbiecon, 30 Romanic, 15 Zack, 10 Believer, 2 Link, 10Autolycus, 5 Renata, 10 shlin, 1 Jolt, 1 B_ray, 30 choxorn,
Earthling- 35 (30 Subotan, 5 Bow,
Subotan- 23 (5 dcmort, 3 Diamondeye, 2 Ironside, 5 Red_Spy, 8 myth,
ACIN- 16 (8 God Emperor, 5 Psychonaut, 3 DIY
Seon- 3 (3 Gamez,
Chaotix- 1 (1 Beskar,

[shlin28]

Wow.... I wake up to this?

Basically everyone who waged 30 credits to save MRD is suspicious. I didn't think the case against MRD was that strong, but now that Warman and CB just jumped into this without any explanation.... either they are fellow chaotics or simply belong to the same faction/voting bloc, which is actually also detrimental to the Mafia's interests.

Also, could someone please protect me tonight? In retrospect saying that I belong to an 'endangered' faction may not have been such a great idea! Some unreconstructed Mafioso may like to off one of their rival factions

[God Emperor]

I am going to to quote a bunch of you, as the hours up to the lynch makes zero sense to me. In short people don't explain themselves at all.

Fold; Bet 15 on Civplayah

And yet not once did I see a mention of pancakes in MRD's speech.
But bananas are cool too.

No, I just don't feel like joining a bandwagon.

Skooma Addicts points this out as well.. This statement is Bogus and completely absurd.. You don't leave a bandwagon to join another bandwagon, with the explanation that you don't feel like joining bandwagons. So why exactly are you leaving the bandwagon for another?

Vote 20 on MRD

Seems he is the one to get the chop so I want to see if I can get some more money.

Fold Bet 30 credits on Civplayah

What is the reason captain blackadder? As far as I can see, MRD is leading the tally, so this is not an act to save credits anylonger

Unvote: Sideshow Bob GAG to MRD

Fold
Bet: 20 Credits on MRD

SAFOS: Fluffy

Right, I missed your previous, yet equally maddening posts. So to be clear, you quit one wagon to join another, then quit that one to rejoin the previous one? Skooma tinks u r a funneh Fluffeh.

Fold

Here you point out how fluffy is behaving strange, but this is not related to your fold at all.. to me it seems like the real goal of this post if the fold, and then you just talk to fluffy to deflect attention on the fold part. So why are you folding?

There is absolutely no point lynching MRD right now. He is out on the open now and can be offed by any faction at any point of time. Put the pressure somewhere else.

This post is not nonesense to me in the same way as the others.. But we are 52 minutes before deadline when you post this.. there won't even be time for pressure imo. If people change their votes (which they did) , then the target will just be lynched before he even has time to respond. Also 'He is out on the open now and can be offed by any faction at any point of time.' .. this statement goes both ways. As there is no point in lynching him, as he might be killed in the night, then there is no point in killing him in the night, as he then might/will be lynched. So taking the time into concideration, I don't see why it would be better to lynch a random person, than taking out a scummy player

[Major Robert Dump]

Wow. A whopping 5 person "bandwagon" saved me while a 12 person bandwagon could not.

If the host wants to fire/replace because of my early unintentional brush with the rules, which gained me nothing but hurt me considerably, then so be it.

The case against me was shaky from the start, as was the one before it. I am not a frequent player of these games, but nonetheless I know all this talk of "typical townie behavior" and "unusual player comments" is a farce. But to say that the 5 who defended me are somehow complicit in some grand scheme is bull headed. All they are guilty of is thinking that I was getting screwed by a bunch bandwagoners and people who didn't read the thread. We have no link to each other short of a couple of emails where I grovelled for help

[Renata]

Holy

I don't know what else to day, I really don't. That's approximately the worst lynch I have ever seen. And I should have asked again to get the gag. Jeez.

Can I please get some PMs tonight from people who have intentions to try to protect others. I'm almost positive it's allowed to discuss night actions in that way as long as the means is not specified (since it could always be done with credits, so it implies nothing about native role or abilities). I want the people who drove the MRD bandwagon (as well as a couple others who look good from the Seon lynch) alive in the morning.

And I assume one of us will be silenced.

[Zack]

Un. Be. Leivable.