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    Earthling is just being his usual textwalling self, if you vote for him instead of MRD then that is scummy.

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    LYNCH THEM ALL! THE DEVIL WILL KNOW HIS OWN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    LYNCH THEM ALL! THE DEVIL WILL KNOW HIS OWN!
    Lovely paraphrase
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    Re: the ice cream truck --

    Quote Originally Posted by shlin28 View Post
    Er.... if you are sure.
    Sent you a PM.
    Last edited by Renata; 05-02-2011 at 16:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death is yonder View Post
    Follow up from previous round.

    And Renata, if you concur with that belief, shouldn't it be the other way around? At the very least the retaliation item deters attempts to murder. Just wondering why GE and not shlin.
    I want to spread around the deterrence (such as it is, given the murder of Zack), and shlin is the person most worth protecting, probably. Two better than one. Have to ask shlin a question, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Actually, I don't know that at all. That being silenced joke (Which MRD accurately said either Renata or you were lying which ended up being true) is still very fishy,
    Where did Earthling say he was lying about that?

    plus demanding everyone to bet large already early in game, it may very well mean that you are up to something, and I wouldn't rule you being Mafia. Since MRD is being lynched tonight, we shall see if he's Mafia or townie. If he's townie, then I don't foresee a good scenario for you. If he's Mafia then your credibility will certainly improve with me.
    This doesn't really wash. Maybe with someone other than Earthling, but this is what he does.

    Until then, I wouldn't really advise the town to sticking retaliatory items on a Black Knight which knocks out Jedi/Sith Masters with one blow.
    This, on the other hand, is quite correct; at this point he hardly needs anything more for deterrence and really shoudln't have asked for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    But what really offends me about Earthling is that I was destined to be the worst liar of them all. I was the KING OF LIE. Now Earthlink and his terrible alibis have dethroned me and I am but the DUKE OF LIE.
    No you already have it, I told you I only told two lies this whole time, everything else is true. The one really did screw with Renata which was funny, the other was trivial.

    I was serious that someone like Crazed Rabbit might be a better candidate for you to bandwagon on today (edit - was going to say at least you were roleblocked last night and not one of the primary chaotic killers, it seems, plus you being a thief before, we have two clearly major killers to take out. And if you were not scum you'd have to realize that you and your little friends wasting your credits on another evil lynch is wrong, if you really weren't and wanted to survive you'd lynch someone suspicious) but with your completely offensive attack on ACIN you have to go. If you're not scum this is all on you and everyone realizes that - I still like fluffy, CR, and Jolt arguing that whatever happens somehow I didn't get attacked at night - but you just gotta go. We'll get all those items back that you stole too, not worth the risk trying to keep you around and getting you to steal/gag the people we choose because you can't be trusted.

    unvote, vote: ICE CREAM TRUCK to shlin too if I hadn't. I'd also like to remind B_ray or whomever wasn't paying attention that civplayah and choxorn did have items, and choxorn's and Zack's got combined into 20% items obviously, I don't know why people have so much trouble reading writeups ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    The whole reason Earthlink started attacking me early on was my ideas that the cards numbers may have reason by faction
    Where did you suggest this?

    And this entire time he has managed to destroy and break this towns bank all due to either petty faction concerns or being chaotic, or both.
    No one is more responsible for wasting the town's money than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    The tally is MRD 125, everyone else zero.

    I suggest that we don't raise another bandwagon today, as it is clear this situation will repeat itself every day until the Major is lynched. Town would be losing a lot of credits if players who think MRD is innocent, always push a lot of credits on an alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Of course they read my posts. I am like a train wreck full of topless women.

    @ Earthling's text wall: So I am guilty because of my support for Seon in the 1st round and by voting 10 creds on my own faction member for whom I mistakenly thought I would get a profit from? Black was already dead, I'll say it for the 100th time, and by voting him and him being nuetral I got my bet back. Making a case from a day 1 vote is absurd.
    *cough* Visions of the Animus *cough*

    Okay, that was day three, but day one didn't count, so really it was day two which is close enough to prove the point. When a scummer gets lynched or nearly does, all bets are off. You have to know that, MRD.

    As for my shenanigans, last I checked this town was full of characyers that are liars and murderers, pardon me for fitting in. Think I am faking on my claim, then why did the host include "stomping hooves" in the freaking lynch write up pertaining to me? I also find it pretty keen that you are now including "neutrals" in the list of town enemies.

    @ Choxorm: I will eat your shorts as soon as you write that essay on why you want to feast on my Venison Sausage so badly.

    @everyone: if the person is guilty and chaotic, you get your money back plus a bet return.
    Since when?

    If the person is nuetral you get your money back and break even, as I did in round 1 when I got 10 credits returned to me from a neutral kill. Keep dropping those large bets early, and when you finally lynch the right person on day 254, you all will win a whopping 2 credits. Good job. Oos, better not be sarcastic like I was with YLCs lynch or someone may think I am anti-town!

    I'm beginning to think Earthling is less and less chaotic and just a really bad liar like me.
    LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Anyway, I highly doubt each faction has a nuetral AND chaotic. It has to be either-or, otherwise, there would be a lot of Chaotics (at least 8) and a lot of neutrals, which would be more than 25%of the population and the game would be unbalanced. Also, if there were both per faction, then statistically speaking we would have seen far more of either thus far, especially in the factions that have lost three members.
    Certainly this much is true.

    This accounts for 32 (4x8) or 40 players(8x5). Are there more than 8 factions, or there are more than 4 players per faction? Is it 8x6 plus 2 non factioned, 9x5 plus 5 non factioned, or 10x5? I find 10x5 the most likley. The following theory changes slightly based on your opinion of the numbers, but one overriding point remains: 1 per faction.. That would give us, for example, 40 evil with 10 nuetral/chaotic.
    I doubt there's even that many. Neutral players can win with mafia, and so in a way count toward their numbers. 10 total would probably be too many. Maybe around ten total not-town including Arpeg and any others.

    With all this being said, I make one last case to be spared. The factions in which a Chaotic or Nuetral member have already been killed have no more such members. While it may be convenient for my case since I lost a nuetral ally already, I mention this more as food for thought after my death when you realize your mistake:
    There is just no reason to believe that, MRD. Not only are you proposing a game setup that could potentially be broken with a mass claim at the right point (maybe coupled with some cheap faction scans), there's also that your assumption of balance doesn't hold up. One *scum* in every faction might be balanced in that way. One scum in more-or-less every other faction, plus a scattering of neutrals and serial killers in the rest, is not balanced. Scum might want to protect their own faction for late-game purposes (and largely *can*). Neutrals might want to protect their own faction, but probably cannot. Scum know each other and can coordinate information from multiple sources. Neutrals presumably don't, and can't. A faction with one scum doesn't balance a faction with one neutral. Given that an even distribution of not-town wouldn't even balance the way you say it should, you don't even have to go to "would ATPG make things that easy for the town"; the whole argument is false on its face. There's no reason to expect that the balance mechanism is a perfectly even distribution of non-town players, one per faction.

    Shlin is almost certainly a member of the evil mafia because I stole the Tanooki suit from him turn 2.
    Which of the other thefts are you responsible for?

    I, on the other hand, have no idea who my 4th and 5th members are, but I have a very good idea.
    Oh come on. Fluffy and Skooma. It's in public; this cannot possibly be an honest statement. Not to mention "have no idea, but have very good idea"?

    I find it highly unlikely that no one up to this point has scanned me, as I have been a loudmouth from day 1 and even survived a lynch that followed a 2 nights and 1 days of harsh accusations against me. I am Bizarro, and someone does not want you guys to know because being Bizarro proves my innocence.
    No kidding you're Bizarro, you said so, and despite what Diamondeye or whoever said, there is no reason whatsoever that you should lie. Even less so if you are mafia and those "prancing hooves" or whatever it was are covering for something else.
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    Ah, yes, I wasted money protesting my innocence, doing a 100% accurate claim, and giving a 10x5-1 theory that is most likley 99% accurate.

    Despite faction scans being done, no one shares the fact that they know I am Bizarro and therefore innocent. Instead of thanking me for lynching a nuetral faction mate, I am accused of collaberating with Seon, as if either is plausible on day 1.

    "All the items" I stole will turn out to be one item and 20 credits.

    You will continue to hand over items to people you think deserve them, and your town "leadership" will continue to perpetuate the myth as to how Bus Driver works.

    There will be revenge lynchings and murders, instead of going after the "leadership" who hoardes scan results because they are Chaotic or they want to eek out points for their faction at the expense of the town.

    @ Earthling...you take my attack on ACIN seriously :sigh: you really need to get your sarcasm meter looked at

    I intentionally brought attention to myself, which is apparently scummy, and I refused to roll over like an old @#$% dog to get her belly rubbed when you guys wanted to lynch me, which is apparently even more scummy

    300+ credits and 2 day phases wasted to lynch me, not including the credits used to save me. Bravo.

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    I wasn't aware Fluffy is supposedly a fifth Bizarro. It was looking more like Blackadder if there was a fifth one, who still is very suspiciously absent and owes us some explanation since his bandwagoning and resurrection from the Seinfeld role.
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    vote: ICE CREAM TRUCK to shlin

    Er.... I think I just took my "one item for one person" principle and broke it into teeny tiny pieces


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    @Renata: I have no idea what you mean by Visons of Animus

    As for not knowing who my faction mates are, since day 2 I have treaded carefully on PMs and discussed nothing but lynches or vague details on night actions because I did not want to get accused of cheating as I was subtley accused of the first time. As it turns out, I made the right decision IMO. And for the record, I was not one of the people given a warning.

    So no, I don't know who my faction mates are, and I don't know how anyone else would unless they are Chaotic or scanning.

    Lesson learned, though, really. Don't talk in game or send PMs, and don't try to make friends with random people you don't know.

    And yes, I have plenty of reasons to lie, because my character is a liar and a thief, and people who are honest up front run the chance of getting bent over the barstool if they splii their guts to the wrong folk.
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    The chance that a single chaotic in a faction makes the faction more powerful than faction with a single nuetral can be balanced through faction size, special stats, winning conditions, items and starting knowledge.

    10x5-1 is the most likley scenario. I am evil, as are my fellow Bizarro, whoever they may be. Any faction that has not produced a chaotic or nuetral should be open season.
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    Vote: Ice Cream Truck to shlin28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Ah, yes, I wasted money protesting my innocence, doing a 100% accurate claim, and giving a 10x5-1 theory that is most likley 99% accurate.

    Despite faction scans being done, no one shares the fact that they know I am Bizarro and therefore innocent. Instead of thanking me for lynching a nuetral faction mate, I am accused of collaberating with Seon, as if either is plausible on day 1.
    :wallbash:

    "All the items" I stole will turn out to be one item and 20 credits.

    You will continue to hand over items to people you think deserve them, and your town "leadership" will continue to perpetuate the myth as to how Bus Driver works.
    And what myth would that be?

    There will be revenge lynchings and murders, instead of going after the "leadership" who hoardes scan results because they are Chaotic or they want to eek out points for their faction at the expense of the town.
    Fluffy and Warman are probably town even if you are not.
    Earthling is acting like town Earthling.

    So I actually agree with you there.

    @ Earthling...you take my attack on ACIN seriously :sigh: you really need to get your sarcasm meter looked at

    I intentionally brought attention to myself, which is apparently scummy, and I refused to roll over like an old @#$% dog to get her belly rubbed when you guys wanted to lynch me, which is apparently even more scummy

    300+ credits and 2 day phases wasted to lynch me, not including the credits used to save me. Bravo.

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    I believe this song to be completely appropriate for the situation we are currently in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    @Renata: I have no idea what you mean by Visons of Animus
    I was referring to day three of VotA. All three mafia other than Kagemusha let their drawers hang out, a little or a lot, when he was lynched. If there had been death reveals in that game, it wouldn't have lasted very long. The point being that it doesn't matter what day of the game it is. Mafia will usually act wierd in some fashion or another when one of their own is on the firing line. Your argument that X or Y is implausible because it was day one just makes my head hurt.

    As for not knowing who my faction mates are, since day 2 I have treaded carefully on PMs and discussed nothing but lynches or vague details on night actions because I did not want to get accused of cheating as I was subtley accused of the first time. As it turns out, I made the right decision IMO. And for the record, I was not one of the people given a warning.

    So no, I don't know who my faction mates are, and I don't know how anyone else would unless they are Chaotic or scanning.
    Earthling talked about Skooma being Bizarro faction; I don't see how you could have missed it. Fluffy is my mistake; I learned it from Believer on day two but didn't realize it hadn't been made public (if it hasn't).

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    Bet:20 credits on MRD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    The chance that a single chaotic in a faction makes the faction more powerful than faction with a single nuetral can be balanced through faction size, special stats, winning conditions, items and starting knowledge.

    10x5-1 is the most likley scenario. I am evil, as are my fellow Bizarro, whoever they may be. Any faction that has not produced a chaotic or nuetral should be open season.
    So you're innocent because you're guessing on the faction status and because ATPG is going to leave an easily predictable pattern in a game that's all about chaos? Sure, as a guideline it's useful. As an ironfist rule, very, very doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    I was referring to day three of VotA. All three mafia other than Kagemusha let their drawers hang out, a little or a lot, when he was lynched. If there had been death reveals in that game, it wouldn't have lasted very long. The point being that it doesn't matter what day of the game it is. Mafia will usually act wierd in some fashion or another when one of their own is on the firing line. Your argument that X or Y is implausible because it was day one just makes my head hurt.



    Earthling talked about Skooma being Bizarro faction; I don't see how you could have missed it. Fluffy is my mistake; I learned it from Believer on day two but didn't realize it hadn't been made public (if it hasn't).
    Fluffy was never openly outed, and creepy pictures directed at me do not equal faction mate. Skooma was speculation by Earthlink, based on Skoomas voting pattern yesterday. Neither mean anything, but if they are Bizarro, they are innocent just like me.
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    Speaking of Visions of the Animus, I am sure glad we are not running around in circles for several rounds trying to lynch someone while the mafia are just coasting around in the background.

    I bet they even placed bets on MRD. I am betting they will be low number bets as well, since they probably know of his alignment is not mafia at least, thus they won't get any money back from it.

    So let's make this interesting! If you actually think MRD is scum, put your credits where your mouth is. If not, stop wasting every ones time.

    Personally? Haven't a clue what alignment MRD is, but it smells like folly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    So let's make this interesting! If you actually think MRD is scum, put your credits where your mouth is. If not, stop wasting every ones time.
    Do you realize how scummy that sounds? I thought we were all agreed that the best pro-town strategy right now would be to conserve our credits. So you'd like all the townies to spend more credits than is necessary just to "prove" that they are in fact townies? That's simply a bad plan. It won't actually prove anyone innocence; it won't improve the likelihood of the real Chaotics getting lynched; it won't accomplish anything but drain the town's credits.

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    "Scum" is such a harsh word, and has initiated incredibly knee-jerk responses from me.

    Meanwhile, the word "lie," as in "to lie," is very much subjective and relative to ones own moral compass, background and species.

    "Venison Sausage," on the other hand, is a very pleasant term, one which the entire town can enjoy.
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    If you are not currently voting for MRD, then you have been added to my naughty list. You don't want to be on this list. So I suggest you vote for MRD.

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    Sorry, I'm illiterate, so I have no idea what is happening. But, I can copy and paste (thank almighty moses for that).

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    I grow tired.

    So, when I turn out to be evil, does this mean I am Chaotic?

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