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    Default Re: Gay Marriage Bill Passed in New York's State Government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfylwr View Post

    The British education system. I was taught it was OK to be gay in health ed classes, so from around age 11+.

    If I'm an employer I have to hire them.

    If I'm B&B owner I have to let them stay in my house.

    You can't escape, the leftist utopia has is all encompassing.

    You say you are not one of the gutmensch... so surely you will not defend this?
    The horror! That's your leftist utopia? We're not talking about extra points on college admissions and job interviews, quotas, busing, or affirmative action laws, but basic workplace nondiscrimination laws? Really? Let's have a discussion about racial policies in America and I'll show you some truly destructive leftist fiats.

    Seriously though, as hilariously infinitesimal as those examples are, they reveal a far uglier, definitely un-funny truth residing just below the surface. Your problem is not that gay people are actually doing anything to you, it's that they exist. You don't even want to have to afford to them the basic modicum of respect that every citizen in a free society is entitled to. You want to be able to actively discriminate against them in the public square and any law that says you can't represents an inescapable leftist utopia. There's no greater religious principle underlying that, just reactionary bigotry.

    I should be able to have my own little world with my own values. Other people can do their thing but don't tell me I have to be a part of it.
    That's fine. Home school your children and subsistence farm. However, if you're going to make use of public schools or operate a business that benefits from public infrastructure, you're going to have conduct yourself in a manner that respects the public at large, including gays. They are stakeholders (taxpayers) in society just as much as you are.

    A better question would be why should they get married.
    Because they constitute an identifiable subset of stakeholders in society, because they are organized, and because they want it. That's all that is required to effect change in a liberal democracy. Broader society then evaluates the associated costs of the change and decides whether it is worthwhile.

    Considering the fact that no one seems to have come up with any legitimate social costs of allowing gay marriage, there do not seem to be any legitimate arguments against it - at least from a public policy perspective.
    Last edited by PanzerJaeger; 06-28-2011 at 22:08.

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