Ethical Dilemma

[Fragony]

' If you want an SUV to mod extensively and take to the trails every weekend, get a Jeep (of if you're outside of the US, a Land Rover Defender). If you want to project wealth and success and still have a very capable off-road truck, get a Range Rover. If you want to project that you won a bunch of money in the lottery, or, alternatively, that your car note is bigger than your trailer note, get a Hummer. '

K so it's bad taste, but what's it to you? The circles they want to belong to will pick them right out anyway. I would love to have one, it's big and noisy what's not to like, cooler than a Ferrari imho.

[Ronin]

I would love to have one, it's big and noisy what's not to like

why are you asking a question you already gave the answer to? :D

[PanzerJaeger]

K so it's bad taste, but what's it to you? The circles they want to belong to will pick them right out anyway. I would love to have one, it's big and noisy what's not to like, cooler than a Ferrari imho.

I was just answering your question: 'What's wrong with a Hummer anyway.'

If you know all the issues associated with Hummers and still want one, more power to you. I don't think anyone should have to explain their choice of vehicle. The enviro-types have been trying to take the character out of vehicles for years (not for any real environmental concerns, but because they're one of the clearest indicators of wealth disparity), and the Hummer has character in spades. I just think if you're into big, cool trucks, there are better options out there. Just my opinion, though.

[Fragony]

I was just answering your question: 'What's wrong with a Hummer anyway.'

If you know all the issues associated with Hummers and still want one, more power to you. I don't think anyone should have to explain their choice of vehicle. The enviro-types have been trying to take the character out of vehicles for years (not for any real environmental concerns, but because they're one of the clearest indicators of wealth disparity), and the Hummer has character in spades. I just think if you're into big, cool trucks, there are better options out there. Just my opinion, though.

Would be surprised if it wasn't, but generally speaking people seem to take offence with Hummers and the people driving them. It's just a (cool) car

Somebody has to explain to the broccoli-brigades that a Toyota Prius (these things in which people drive 40 km/ph where you can go 80 km/h to project their greenliness gawd) is actually more polluting by the way

[Strike For The South]

Jeep>Truck>Hummer

[Major Robert Dump]

Would be surprised if it wasn't, but generally speaking people seem to take offence with Hummers and the people driving them. It's just a (cool) car

Somebody has to explain to the broccoli-brigades that a Toyota Prius (these things in which people drive 40 km/ph where you can go 80 km/h to project their greenliness gawd) is actually more polluting by the way

Hummers are too wide. They are a bane to the roadways. Neither they not Dually trucks should be allowed to drive in a city with proper folk.

During the Bush administration a tax loophole existed that allowed people to buy Hummers and get a full credit of the cost to their taxes over subsequent years. Note I said credit, not deduction. So yes, Panzer, while they are a sign of wealth and some people will hate them for that reason alone, they also became a sign of taxpayer funder excess driven by people who had the time and means to obtain bogus small business license with no intent of ever turning a profit, and only the intent to have an 80k wagon paid for by the government. Way to reward people who are definitely not in need. This loophole was soley responsible for the spike in Hummer sales, and car dealers encouraged its abuse.

So aside from their awkwardness on the roads and in parking lots, and aside from their overwhelming unselessness as a vehicle, they are a stark reminder at the abuse that comes with certain types of tax breaks.

[drone]

Ah yes, good old Section 179. Hummers were the end result, but all of the luxury SUVs benefited from this farce. I think every real estate agent in the country used this credit before they clamped down on it.

[Major Robert Dump]

Finally, someone who knows what I am talking about.

I resisted the temptation, although when I went car shopping in 2005 virtually every dealer tried to get me to, except good old Hyundai.

Oh how that law was abused.

[Fragony]

I was just answering your question: 'What's wrong with a Hummer anyway.'

If you know all the issues associated with Hummers and still want one, more power to you. I don't think anyone should have to explain their choice of vehicle. The enviro-types have been trying to take the character out of vehicles for years (not for any real environmental concerns, but because they're one of the clearest indicators of wealth disparity), and the Hummer has character in spades. I just think if you're into big, cool trucks, there are better options out there. Just my opinion, though.

Would be surprised if it wasn't, but generally speaking people seem to take offence with Hummers and the people driving them. It's just a (cool) car

Somebody has to explain to the broccoli-brigades that a Toyota Prius (these things in which people drive 40 km/ph where you can go 80 km/h to project their greenliness gawd) is actually more polluting by the way